New info: The i-ACTIV AWD system is only available with a 6-speed automatic transmission matted to the 2.5 L developing 186 horsepower and 186 lb-ft of torque. GS AWD 6 speed auto model start at 26,000$ CAD.
www.mazda.ca/en/vehicles/mazda3-sport/overview/. You can see some trim info here, Canada site it updated. USA is still a "coming soon" page. You can use Canada to view the car in 360 in different colors, and get an idea about trim levels/equipment and options.
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I like, that Mazda really thinks outside of the box and don't simple copy the other brands. There is the same approach with the new no-touch screen infotainment system and still using real buttons than touch screens.
Well, they are essentially copying the rear suspension design from VW going back to the Mk4 Golf. It used an identical torsion beam setup. It handles (and rides) pretty well too, but it definitely doesn't handle as well as a hatchback with a full IRS + sway bar like the R32, or even a Ford Focus for that matter. Torsion beams have proven to be pretty good middle ground for economy cars, but it's virtually impossible for them to handle as good as a "control blade" suspension where you have a trailing arm, lateral linkage, and sway bar. But this also decreases ride quality and I think Mazda is becoming more of a mass-market brand now, especially with their entry class vehicles like the Mazda 3 and CX-3, so they are setting them up to ride better, and paying more attention to NVH, something they never really seemed to care about previously.
Love the fact that Mazda didn’t give in to CVT. The transmission in my CX5 is miles better than my Lexus was and my Subaru was. Love the design of the new 3. The hatch looks crazy good and the sedan looks like an Acura (higher end). I never drove a 3 but if it’s close to being as good as a CX5, the new 3 will be the best vehicle in its class bar none. Especially with AWD. Amazing move to put AWD. Good job Mazda. Good job!
That's actually the reason I bought my old CX-5 over the Subaru Forester. I just traded the CX-5 in for a 2018 Mazda 3 because I already know I don't want a 2019, and the 2018 GT's can be had now for $20k brand new.
I'm not an engineer and don't test compact cars but I do read and watch a lot of reviews and I've never heard or read anything about torsion beams that didn't say they were cheaper and every car handled better if they switched to independent rear suspension. What he didn't mention is the effect of broken pavement in curves which I'm sure you have in Québec as we have here in Atlantic Canada. He also failed to explain how the independent suspension can compensate for lean and keep the tire contact patch flat with geometry. Many have tried torsion beams in the past including Honda, VW, and some even have introduced them again like Mazda and VW. I suppose if you only drive normally on good roads you'll never feel the difference. Here in Canada with a lot of bad roads, he'll have to give me a better explanation on how torsion beam suspensions are better than independent suspensions.
But it's not a torsion beam. The point of contact is not directly at the wheels. I don't know if the explanation as to why this topology was chosen is correct or if cost is the real (and only) reason but I'm willing to let Mazda prove their point. Obviously a critical review of the car is much anticipated...
As you said yourself you’re not an engineer, if you look at mazda track record they have been doing some things other manufacturers only dream of doing so just sit down and enjoy the show
It is still an independent rear suspension, but the torsion beam replaces portions of the subframe AND the sway bar, eliminating a lot of weight and lowering the subframe bolt points to the chassis. The problem is the torsion beam moves the other control arm a LOT more than a sway bar, so the effect you speak of, where bumps on one hub will interact with the other, will have a greater effect than with a sway bar. What's important to point out is that the effects of bumps on one hub interacting with the other is STILL a problem even with a fully IRS subframe because the control arms are still linked with a sway bar. The best riding vehicles will have an IRS without a rear sway bar, but will sacrifice a lot of handling in the form of understeer.
Don’t discount Mazda’s engineering prowess. Their engineers have a history of problem-solving that lets the company employ technologies that other auto manufacturers have given up on, e.g.: the Wankel engine; the high-compression gas engine; the compression-ignition gas engine. It would not surprise me if Mazda’s approach to the torsion-beam rear suspension is a winner. The initial reviews are positive: www.automobilemag.com/news/2019-mazda-3-review-first-drive-sedan-hatchback/?wc_mid=4035:15617&wc_rid=4035:34102423&_wcsid=D7D8455FFD1406C99E30488F2FF23568818A1CB623AFA188
Is there some explanation or diagrams of how the AWD will be packaged with the torsion beam setup? Where will the rear differential mount and how do the CV joints look?
Which engines will have the AWD? The 2.5 G or the Skyactiv-X? Also, will it be available straight from launch or will we have to wait 1-2 years for AWD?
I would guess both, the power is comparable between the two engine choices (so that isn't the factor related to which they might pair with AWD, looks like the 2.5 will have slightly more HP/Torque, just not the improved fuel economy of the new engine), and also the Skyactiv X isn't ready to launch, so they will probably offer 2.5 FWD or AWD to start off with, then Skyactiv X later (probably with both options)
The 3 is already available in Mexico with pricing very similar to their local VW Jetta. If the trend continues, it would mean the top of the line FWD 2.5G will be around 30k (CAD), just like the Jetta. Let's hope the AWD Skyactiv-X won't go above 33k in hot hatch territory
Mr Coleman Low power AWD can be FWD biased but their 2.5t torquey turbo should be RWD biased!!! If it is iAWD can it switch between Fuel Economy and Performance mode by switching from FWD bias to RWD bias???? It would make CX5 iAWD 2.5t accelerate 0 do 60 in 5.9sec and this RWD bias could be activated by Sport switch and would give this switch real new meaning.
It's going to be really hard for Dave Coleman to convince Mazda's executives in Japan that there is a business case for new Mazdaspeed cars. Fingers crossed!
@@louzerz Good day! sir is there any news when would the new 2019 mazda 3 be available in southeast asian market? more particularly in the philippines? im really excited about this car.. im torn between the 2018 and the 2019 model
@@mannyechaluce3814 It would be feasible, just not like old Mazdaspeed, they would have to follow the type R kind of market, make it a premium brand that only some customers can afford and need to negotiate with a dealer directly and then actually put effort into making it an incredible driving experience. That will sell more than cars, it will sell a brand!
I'm waiting on some car journalists I trust to drive the Mazda3 and also the new Elantra GT N Line to compare them, which is what I will do when they are both finally available for a test drive. Since I don't autocross, and my commute is on pretty friendly roads, I suspect that I won't mind the Mazda rear suspension (as long as the body roll on on-ramps isn't bad). But until some pros get behind the wheel and test drive it, I'll ignore both the naysayers and the fanboys (for both cars). I drove a 2018 recently to see how it performs, and generally it is a comfortable car with ok but not exciting power. The interior was pretty dated though, so I will go with the 2019 for either the Mazda hatch or GT N Line (which just got launched this week, though it is already showing up at dealers). Though neither Mazda3 nor GT N line have made their appearances on the USA websites to check build and cost...
I have a 2017 Impreza Sport Sedan fully loaded for 27 grand new. Is this gonna be another attempt like Nissan Altima AWD we know that sucks. I love mazda but this guy sounds full of it?
The PR person really tries hard to sell the torsion beam! I had a torsion beam on my SX4 and while going over a hump the backend would jump and become loose! Really not cool! Same thing with my Elantra GT. So the Mazda3 AWD doesn't get any extra ground clearance? If it's the case it will be good for snow plowing! 🙄 Edit: I did like the video, great questions!
What about the impending cylinder de-activation system. Every other manf, that has tried this or engine start/stop, has really disappointed their audience. We are wondering why,,and how this will work.
Probably not, in Canada they have the trim info out (no Skyactiv X yet), and AWD is only with automatic in the top trims. Probably has something to do with all the sensors -- likely including some in the automatic transmission (AWD is electronically controlled, not mechanical) mentioned in the video you just commented on.
I have 2017 Impreza Sport so badass and confident in the snow. As cool as it sounds the AWD in the Mazda seems pointless he actually said if you lift a wheel it is basically stuck with no way to redistribute the tourqe. I may be wrong but it seems like this AWD was never built to be good in snow.
I've seen siennas that are awd with torsion beam in the back. I always see their tires wear bad - I'm not sure if I'd blame the runflat tires or suspension. I want the mazda this be good.
All Automaker's who went with this design in the past ended up going back to Independent/Multi-link. Mazda, if it's cheaper to produce this kind of suspension, you better come off the price.
sorry, but the guy is trying really hard to sell its torsion beam suspension setup. multilink independant suspension is better by miles. no contest. buy a 2018 mazda 3 with independant suspension while you can. high end cars have multilink independant suspension in the rear.
Rick - Coleman is not selling as you mentioned, torsion beam rear suspension, you might have to see videos with him and other YT reviewers....plus if you listen carefully it’s make sense, if they go for sportier responsiveness, than again when its ready for a test drive , al ? will, get answers, isn’t it?
"Trying really hard to sell its torsion beam suspension setup", some people's opinions sure are funny. Are you an automotive engineer? Because you sound like you know more about cars than Dave Coleman.
I think it is buuut what sucks about the 2014-2018 Mazda 3 is the road noise. I have a "lower" 2017 nvh Mazda 3 but it's still pretty loud. Don't really buy that Mazda switched to torsion beam because of nvh....but if it really is low, then I might not mind. They could've kept the independent and simply added some sound deadening/MLV :/
Would be nice for the CX 3 to be less of an woman`s purse and more of a car. Where I live, Tokyo/Japan, the competition sells very well in the Cutie UV market. CX 3 is great to drive and has good interior, I had it as rental in Norway and it drives great. The trunk is ridiculously small so the car has no utility value.
Of course they can produce a Mazda speed 3 vehicle no problem. But their going to jack up the price by 6 to 8 grand. Be careful what you wish for. Or you can just install a stage 1 or 2 tuning after you buy the car.
It's curious how Mazda thought about minute details like how bushings in the suspension system affect the subconsciousness, but somehow managed to ignore the glaringly giant blind spot on the hatchback.
@@Blissfulkitty-Seattle I drive one no blind spots, quick head turn and I'll catch it. Set your mirrors correctly. Reverse is hard but I have the gt so for me I don't even have to look back.
I still think the rear suspension in my 2017 Mz3 is better. This torsion beam suspension was used on my old Citation X-11 HO. This really seems like a HUGE step backward to the 1980s technology. I'm also very happy my car IS NOT AWD. It's useless without the ground clearance for bad weather operation. It's makes the car heavier, slower, plow more and sucks more gas. Not a fan...Subaru can keep theirs.
I don't buy that bullshit that torsion beam is more comfortable than multi-link. They did it to save cost. I don't doubt that they engineered it well, and that it's probably a better tuned torsion beam setup than on other cars, but a torsion beam is inferior to multi link, period.
New info: The i-ACTIV AWD system is only available with a 6-speed automatic transmission matted to the 2.5 L developing 186 horsepower and 186 lb-ft of torque. GS AWD 6 speed auto model start at 26,000$ CAD.
Mais est-ce qu'il va y avoir une version AWD manuelle ??? There will be a awd standard ?
@@dominiclussier8810 no
@@dominiclussier8810 nope automatique 6 vitesse seulement
Oh non moi qui pensais avoir trouver une remplaçante pour ma Subaru impreza :(
www.mazda.ca/en/vehicles/mazda3-sport/overview/. You can see some trim info here, Canada site it updated. USA is still a "coming soon" page. You can use Canada to view the car in 360 in different colors, and get an idea about trim levels/equipment and options.
I like, that Mazda really thinks outside of the box and don't simple copy the other brands. There is the same approach with the new no-touch screen infotainment system and still using real buttons than touch screens.
Well, they are essentially copying the rear suspension design from VW going back to the Mk4 Golf. It used an identical torsion beam setup. It handles (and rides) pretty well too, but it definitely doesn't handle as well as a hatchback with a full IRS + sway bar like the R32, or even a Ford Focus for that matter.
Torsion beams have proven to be pretty good middle ground for economy cars, but it's virtually impossible for them to handle as good as a "control blade" suspension where you have a trailing arm, lateral linkage, and sway bar. But this also decreases ride quality and I think Mazda is becoming more of a mass-market brand now, especially with their entry class vehicles like the Mazda 3 and CX-3, so they are setting them up to ride better, and paying more attention to NVH, something they never really seemed to care about previously.
Love the fact that Mazda didn’t give in to CVT. The transmission in my CX5 is miles better than my Lexus was and my Subaru was. Love the design of the new 3. The hatch looks crazy good and the sedan looks like an Acura (higher end). I never drove a 3 but if it’s close to being as good as a CX5, the new 3 will be the best vehicle in its class bar none. Especially with AWD. Amazing move to put AWD. Good job Mazda. Good job!
That's actually the reason I bought my old CX-5 over the Subaru Forester. I just traded the CX-5 in for a 2018 Mazda 3 because I already know I don't want a 2019, and the 2018 GT's can be had now for $20k brand new.
I'm not an engineer and don't test compact cars but I do read and watch a lot of reviews and I've never heard or read anything about torsion beams that didn't say they were cheaper and every car handled better if they switched to independent rear suspension. What he didn't mention is the effect of broken pavement in curves which I'm sure you have in Québec as we have here in Atlantic Canada. He also failed to explain how the independent suspension can compensate for lean and keep the tire contact patch flat with geometry. Many have tried torsion beams in the past including Honda, VW, and some even have introduced them again like Mazda and VW. I suppose if you only drive normally on good roads you'll never feel the difference. Here in Canada with a lot of bad roads, he'll have to give me a better explanation on how torsion beam suspensions are better than independent suspensions.
amen to that
But it's not a torsion beam. The point of contact is not directly at the wheels. I don't know if the explanation as to why this topology was chosen is correct or if cost is the real (and only) reason but I'm willing to let Mazda prove their point. Obviously a critical review of the car is much anticipated...
As you said yourself you’re not an engineer, if you look at mazda track record they have been doing some things other manufacturers only dream of doing so just sit down and enjoy the show
It is still an independent rear suspension, but the torsion beam replaces portions of the subframe AND the sway bar, eliminating a lot of weight and lowering the subframe bolt points to the chassis. The problem is the torsion beam moves the other control arm a LOT more than a sway bar, so the effect you speak of, where bumps on one hub will interact with the other, will have a greater effect than with a sway bar.
What's important to point out is that the effects of bumps on one hub interacting with the other is STILL a problem even with a fully IRS subframe because the control arms are still linked with a sway bar. The best riding vehicles will have an IRS without a rear sway bar, but will sacrifice a lot of handling in the form of understeer.
Don’t discount Mazda’s engineering prowess. Their engineers have a history of problem-solving that lets the company employ technologies that other auto manufacturers have given up on, e.g.: the Wankel engine; the high-compression gas engine; the compression-ignition gas engine. It would not surprise me if Mazda’s approach to the torsion-beam rear suspension is a winner. The initial reviews are positive: www.automobilemag.com/news/2019-mazda-3-review-first-drive-sedan-hatchback/?wc_mid=4035:15617&wc_rid=4035:34102423&_wcsid=D7D8455FFD1406C99E30488F2FF23568818A1CB623AFA188
Very good video man. I like how you showed pictures of what was begin talked about and explained!
Coleman is always a joy to hear when explaining the latest engineering decisions behind the newest Mazda offerings.
Mazda is ahead of the curve. The explanation for what they're putting forth now cannot be explained any simpler.
Is there some explanation or diagrams of how the AWD will be packaged with the torsion beam setup? Where will the rear differential mount and how do the CV joints look?
ahhh the video you promised me, thanks!
Which engines will have the AWD? The 2.5 G or the Skyactiv-X? Also, will it be available straight from launch or will we have to wait 1-2 years for AWD?
I heard it's the X version, it will be approx 27,000 CAD and will be available later in the summer.
I would guess both, the power is comparable between the two engine choices (so that isn't the factor related to which they might pair with AWD, looks like the 2.5 will have slightly more HP/Torque, just not the improved fuel economy of the new engine), and also the Skyactiv X isn't ready to launch, so they will probably offer 2.5 FWD or AWD to start off with, then Skyactiv X later (probably with both options)
@@6string327 X drive sounds like bmws awd
I am willing to bet it will be on the x model since awd won't be available at launch and they are releasing the same 2.5 engine as the outgoing model.
The 3 is already available in Mexico with pricing very similar to their local VW Jetta. If the trend continues, it would mean the top of the line FWD 2.5G will be around 30k (CAD), just like the Jetta. Let's hope the AWD Skyactiv-X won't go above 33k in hot hatch territory
Is timing of this video corresponds to nearer production/ dealer availability of new Mazda 3?
Can you shed a bit more light into the bushing internal changes. Would be interested to know what change was made to the spherical shape
AWD and a interior that is very upscale. They gotta cut cost somewhere. Rear suspension takes a hit
Mr Coleman
Low power AWD can be FWD biased but their 2.5t torquey turbo should be RWD biased!!!
If it is iAWD can it switch between Fuel Economy and Performance mode by switching from FWD bias to RWD bias????
It would make CX5 iAWD 2.5t accelerate 0 do 60 in 5.9sec and this RWD bias could be activated by Sport switch and would give this switch real new meaning.
I don't think Torsion bar better than multi link suspension.
I HATE that damn torsion beam rear suspension in my 25 AWD 3 sedan. It slams when you go over a speed bump
Hey did you hear that they were thinking of making a 2.5T Mazda 3 with AWD? Look up Kota Beppu and Mazda 3 turbo.
It's going to be really hard for Dave Coleman to convince Mazda's executives in Japan that there is a business case for new Mazdaspeed cars. Fingers crossed!
Buckle your seatbelt.
@@louzerz yes, I heard that the chief of Mazda has confirmed that it is not feasible for the current market.............
@@louzerz Good day! sir is there any news when would the new 2019 mazda 3 be available in southeast asian market? more particularly in the philippines? im really excited about this car.. im torn between the 2018 and the 2019 model
@@mannyechaluce3814 It would be feasible, just not like old Mazdaspeed, they would have to follow the type R kind of market, make it a premium brand that only some customers can afford and need to negotiate with a dealer directly and then actually put effort into making it an incredible driving experience. That will sell more than cars, it will sell a brand!
Thinking about a mazda6, will they introduce the awd also to the next mazda6 petrol setup?
When will be be seeing this "superior" rear suspension configuration on the Miata?
i dont recall the word superior being used here
Est-ce qu'i y a asser de place sous le capot pour ''fiter'' un 2.5T ?
No Skyactive-X anytime soon in 2019 ?
Sad thing is mazda 3 just too small for me. Will it be the same with mazda 6? And please, bring the wagon to US.
I'm waiting on some car journalists I trust to drive the Mazda3 and also the new Elantra GT N Line to compare them, which is what I will do when they are both finally available for a test drive.
Since I don't autocross, and my commute is on pretty friendly roads, I suspect that I won't mind the Mazda rear suspension (as long as the body roll on on-ramps isn't bad).
But until some pros get behind the wheel and test drive it, I'll ignore both the naysayers and the fanboys (for both cars).
I drove a 2018 recently to see how it performs, and generally it is a comfortable car with ok but not exciting power. The interior was pretty dated though, so I will go with the 2019 for either the Mazda hatch or GT N Line (which just got launched this week, though it is already showing up at dealers).
Though neither Mazda3 nor GT N line have made their appearances on the USA websites to check build and cost...
Comparing Mazda 3 to Elantra GT N line is like comparing Miata to a Chevy SS. Two cars that offer completely different things.
I have a 2017 Impreza Sport Sedan fully loaded for 27 grand new. Is this gonna be another attempt like Nissan Altima AWD we know that sucks. I love mazda but this guy sounds full of it?
my GTX mazda has independent rear suspension, manual shift, 1.6 turbo, locking centre diff. all from 1988.
The PR person really tries hard to sell the torsion beam! I had a torsion beam on my SX4 and while going over a hump the backend would jump and become loose! Really not cool! Same thing with my Elantra GT.
So the Mazda3 AWD doesn't get any extra ground clearance? If it's the case it will be good for snow plowing! 🙄
Edit: I did like the video, great questions!
Torsion beam and AWD is a rare combination isn’t it? It will be interesting to see how that work out.
Will sedan also get AWD ?
What about the impending cylinder de-activation system. Every other manf, that has tried this or engine start/stop, has really disappointed their audience. We are wondering why,,and how this will work.
Can you have AWD with the manual?
why not? That's the only version i'd get. No Manual no fun
I agree! But they don’t offer the manual on an awd cx-5, just fwd
Probably not, in Canada they have the trim info out (no Skyactiv X yet), and AWD is only with automatic in the top trims. Probably has something to do with all the sensors -- likely including some in the automatic transmission (AWD is electronically controlled, not mechanical) mentioned in the video you just commented on.
I have 2017 Impreza Sport so badass and confident in the snow. As cool as it sounds the AWD in the Mazda seems pointless he actually said if you lift a wheel it is basically stuck with no way to redistribute the tourqe. I may be wrong but it seems like this AWD was never built to be good in snow.
Kudos!
I've seen siennas that are awd with torsion beam in the back. I always see their tires wear bad - I'm not sure if I'd blame the runflat tires or suspension. I want the mazda this be good.
Tell me it will come with a 6-speed manual transmission!!
AwD Mazda speed? AWD mazda 6? Awesome
Best AWD is based on a longitude placed engine, rear wheel drive when awd is not needed with vectoring turning system
AWD will help to run the 2.5T in the mazda 3 in about 3 years with this 4gen.
All Automaker's who went with this design in the past ended up going back to Independent/Multi-link. Mazda, if it's cheaper to produce this kind of suspension, you better come off the price.
sorry, but the guy is trying really hard to sell its torsion beam suspension setup. multilink independant suspension is better by miles. no contest. buy a 2018 mazda 3 with independant suspension while you can. high end cars have multilink independant suspension in the rear.
He has is points! We will see it when we test it! :)
Rick - Coleman is not selling as you mentioned, torsion beam rear suspension, you might have to see videos with him and other YT reviewers....plus if you listen carefully it’s make sense, if they go for sportier responsiveness, than again when its ready for a test drive , al ? will, get answers, isn’t it?
rick freedom Got my 2018!
"Trying really hard to sell its torsion beam suspension setup", some people's opinions sure are funny.
Are you an automotive engineer? Because you sound like you know more about cars than Dave Coleman.
I think it is buuut what sucks about the 2014-2018 Mazda 3 is the road noise. I have a "lower" 2017 nvh Mazda 3 but it's still pretty loud.
Don't really buy that Mazda switched to torsion beam because of nvh....but if it really is low, then I might not mind.
They could've kept the independent and simply added some sound deadening/MLV :/
It's not new. The current Mazda 2, 3 and 6 sold in Japan already have their AWD system.
Mazdaspeed! Now! Mine has almost 200k on it! It's an 07! Or I'm getting another hatchback from elsewhere! Do it right this time awd + turbo!
Jason LeBlanc be patient bro its a brand new design again. Maybe they will make a mazdaspeed again in 2 years
Would be nice for the CX 3 to be less of an woman`s purse and more of a car. Where I live, Tokyo/Japan, the competition sells very well in the Cutie UV market. CX 3 is great to drive and has good interior, I had it as rental in Norway and it drives great. The trunk is ridiculously small so the car has no utility value.
Can anybody explain to me why they are ditching independent rear suspension?
They claim it's easier to package and frees up space for more trunk room
@@alpha7ization
While that's true in many cases, the new Civic has the largest trunk in its class. It also has an IRS.
JAnx01 : It’s also the size that the Accord was. It’s also hideously styled and the proportions are awkward.
@2WIREG I think I stopped the video to and asked the question before watching the whole thing.
Of course they can produce a Mazda speed 3 vehicle no problem. But their going to jack up the price by 6 to 8 grand. Be careful what you wish for. Or you can just install a stage 1 or 2 tuning after you buy the car.
Great
It's curious how Mazda thought about minute details like how bushings in the suspension system affect the subconsciousness, but somehow managed to ignore the glaringly giant blind spot on the hatchback.
blissful kitty : No such thing if you adjust your mirrors correctly.
@@youcanrunnaked I drive one. Trust me, I know. In certain urban conditions, it is IMPOSSIBLE.
blissful kitty Watch this. ua-cam.com/video/QIkodlp8HMM/v-deo.html
@@Blissfulkitty-Seattle I drive one no blind spots, quick head turn and I'll catch it. Set your mirrors correctly. Reverse is hard but I have the gt so for me I don't even have to look back.
Incredible Mazda is going the Fred Flintstone rear suspension. What is going on here, so this company is in bankruptcy or what?
In summary it is a cost reduction requirements from the bean counter
Multi link suspension in mazda 3 and 6 same as torsion beam with low arm. Useless. unlike double wishbone in subaru and mukti link in honda civic
I still think the rear suspension in my 2017 Mz3 is better. This torsion beam suspension was used on my old Citation X-11 HO. This really seems like a HUGE step backward to the 1980s technology. I'm also very happy my car IS NOT AWD. It's useless without the ground clearance for bad weather operation. It's makes the car heavier, slower, plow more and sucks more gas. Not a fan...Subaru can keep theirs.
my fwd car with multolink suspension handles so much better with this awd car, especially on a twisty road.
I don't buy that bullshit that torsion beam is more comfortable than multi-link. They did it to save cost. I don't doubt that they engineered it well, and that it's probably a better tuned torsion beam setup than on other cars, but a torsion beam is inferior to multi link, period.
Dodge Reliant K had the same suspension system in the 80’.
Mazdaspeed gogogogo
Honestly simple is better and im all for having this design comparing to IRS
It seems like cheaper to maintain as well with less rubber to keep an eye. Ditto!
Now I know where they got all that money for the interior.
Cost savings, cheap is cheap.....
Latest news is that there is no business case for it and it might never be available in our lifetime...............
Do you produce videos in English? This is more like Inspector Clouseau.
let me hear you talk in french!
Get a civic with a real independent suspension...
Pfft...
Stab your eyes out first. It’s hideous.
I bullshitted the entire video.
Aws system 🤮
Is a manual transmission available with AWD?