As a childfree woman, I’m often told that I’ll never know true love until I have a baby. The greatest act of love I could give to my child is not bringing it into this world.
Yet people call you "selfish", while the opposite is actually true. People who are pro birth are the most selfish bunch I've seen. They have children, simply for the sake of it, not caring or thinking about the likely suffering the child has to endure for the rest of his/her life. They want to show their families "Look, we have a child! We're successful, aren't we?"
@@dee23gamingexactly it’s all fucked it’s like that one Harvey danger song “been around the world and found that only stupid people are breeding” it’s too true
not to agreee or disagree, but only to raise discussion...the argument im hearing against this recently is that these lives will change something about the world. see all this shit going on? these ppl u bring into this world MIGHT change it not saying i agree or disagree with u, but that's the counterargument i've recently heard
So for you, we should bring people into this world to change the world when we’re not even close to fixing any issues in our lifetime. You’re basically gambling with future kids since you said they “MIGHT” change the world when they also possibly cannot
@@LifeOutrage I'm not saying it's MY view, I'm just saying that it's A view.... And like....yea there are criticisms....but at the same time....idk, we can't change these issues by ourselves. We can't challenge this whole structure without having a "nation" Again, not MY view....it's just A view
@@englishengaged-456 I see this view as cowered there billions of people they failed to change world tell how your kid can change the world these possibility changing world one in trillion so yeah your kid will end like us depress sad miserable
You are 100% correct. I have crippling autism and my life has been a living hell. No friends, misunderstood by family members all completely out of my control. I wish I was never born.
Same to all those. Why would I want to give my child a million autoimmune allergies and isolation due to severe abuse from two narc parents who psychologically tortured me as the eldest and i had to take care of 4 younger siblings as a child...because they were addicted to having babies! Oh masters degrees flying abound...we were first world poor too.
I have autism (ASD) , but if I wasn't suppose to exist , then why am I here? make the best of what you got despite the negativity of society . People can't be happy for you , they can only be happy with you. So be happy and stop catering to what society wants you to be and be who you want to be. If you try too hard to be like everyone else to fit in , then were is the uniqueness ? BE UNIQUE , STAND OUT , BE A LEADER , NOT A FOLLOWER , BREAK YOURSELF AWAY FROM THE HIVE .
This is so true. I HATE when people complain about life and continue to have kids and make other dumb decisions. At some point I stop feeling sorry for people if they don’t understand simple basic decisions.
I swear so many people are obsessed with feeling anxious, miserable, or whatever... I don't get it. It's like some weird trauma bonding ritual or something.
@@JBRN7891 Yeah Millennials seen it all but continue coping and censoring themselves. Millennials submitted. Gen Z bare minimum is speaking out and we dont speak in code.
Our generation has a bad rep because of tiktok but millienials and gen z are the most intellectual , awake and socially intelligent generation .
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@@Florida_man.2As a 57 year old man I totally agree you guys are awakening to a level of realization that my Gen X and Boomer peers never have. The human race is about to undergo a huge transformation PSYCHOLOGICALLY. That is going to spur outrage and a urge to overthrow the entire scam. I dont know when, but I feel as if I now have tens of millions of allies that exist who didnt exist 40 years ago when I was a youngster. Its totally strange. It feels like my people are finally arriving on the earth. This has been so unexpected because it has only become clear over the past few years - beginning with the millennials that this was really what was happening. Awakening!
And then have to nerve to complain about their “struggling” to their children as if their children asked to be here or like they owe them something. Nutjob psychopaths at their finest.
Bro, I live in India and even beggars have like 2-3 kids and then they make the kids beg like wtf. And then some idiots will start blaming the government for being unable to provide for those idiots.
I mean it’s a part of being alive . You also can have joy and success even though it’s extremely hard. I used to hate my parents for giving birth to me but a ton of people- most even want to be alive despite everything and they love their parents and appreciate it.
Completely agree with all these points. The “worker bee” mentality runs way too deep in society, sadly. As well as the “have a kid to take care of me when I get old.” What??
My mother made sure that we knew that the worst thing in life that ever happened to her was becoming a mother. Poor people who have children are cruel and abusive to bring children into this world that they can’t even afford to survive in themselves. Most people should not have children. Most parents are horrible parents. This is why I did not have children. I learned from all of the horrible parents I saw around me, torturing all of the children they had. Children they had because they accidentally created them or deliberately created them just to make themselves feel like they did what they were supposed to do, according to this sick society that the breeders do nothing at all to improve. I never ever regret not having children. I spared any children I would’ve had, of this ridiculous hell full of selfish thoughtless people who only breed for egomaniacal reasons or social acceptance.
Totally get you. I'm a 51 female. Your statement about your dad is the same as mine. I would watch my dad come home exhausted and he hated his job at the factory to come home to three bratty daughters! I could see it all over his face, especially as a teenager.
To be fair to our parents they were lied too by our governments that made our purpose work, reproduce, and die. The rat race is killing humanity on the inside
The existential implications of creating life is poorly understood by a lot of people. My most painful realization was understanding that my creation wasn’t planned or thought out but was a result of selfish emotional reactions and desires for pleasure
it shouldnt be planned, it should be from an emotional reaction. the problem is humans arent adapted to this artificial world we live in, which through adaptation will create alot of suffering.
I was carefully planned and prayed for only to be abused and neglected. Ik a lot of “ accidents” who had great parents. It’s sex and sometimes shit happens abortion is extremely hard on you in every single way
@@JohnsMind98 Appreciate you! I just feel so sad for a lot of people because they think something is wrong with them, when in reality they are probably just good people trying to figure out how to make it through life in a cruel world...
I am a childfree woman 59. I was always brought up as an independent thinker. It was a lot easier for me to choose the childfree lifestyle. I had some aunts who had no children and I saw that they had a very good life, unlike women who were mothers, who seemed miserable and had no quality of life other than chores and kids stuff and moaning about them, and forcing religion on them. They wanted me to believe what they believed. As a woman I would hate pregancy and childbirth and as women we are not even safe walking alone in case a man wants to rape and kill us. It is not a safe world and also who knows I could even make a criminal. Not having kids is brilliant, it reduces crime and victims and I won't die from childbirth or be a single mother. I have a social life as I have hobbies and I volunteer, but it isn't huge and I like that. great video
@@LifeOutrageI feel it too.But i heard someone with a intresting view on this. He said " If you want to survive you have to work period" Wheather you live in a society or not like our ancestors in caves who died without hunting. Made me think.And im not sure if the acestors always wanted to go hunting. Its kinda true 😆
I feel like earth, animals, and the ecosystem will be better off if we humans never existed. Like I can imagine a better place for them without us. Think about it, we are the reason so many unnecessary horrible things happen, it really is our fault.
@@HappyHopefullTree Im not depressed, when you think about it, it makes sense. Also how are we going to make solutions if we never existed. The earth will still be in its healthy enivornmental state. We are the reason, things are the way they are. But yes, thinking about solutions is only for us to fix a problem WE created in the first place. My point stands. If we were never here, no problems. If we are here creating problems, great lets look for solutions. like I know we'll find solutions but solving them aren't easy. its not like erasing a grammar error and fixing it. Its way more complicated than people think. And to solve problems we need everyone's support. But the reality is.... bearly anyone cares. But I do, I try my best to do what I can for people I care about. But at the end of the day. reality is reality. You can always find solutions, yes I agree. But not all the time you can solve them. You just cant.
@@Karessertin103 you're not responsible for the pains, that's just how life is, we're just animals who have the needs to take the next breath, who think about how to achieve happiness, who outbreed our most important allies when we're on lush warm lands when they're in unfarmable ones, nature is ugly, life is ugly, backstabbing is the way many things survive and live on this earth, it's just our grandparents who thought we can make this slightly bearable for the future generations so we might as well create some principles, even though many won't follow them, sometimes you're just blocking yourself, and you'll find the thing you exactly need if you allow yourself to go forward, sometimes both of you are watching on the wall thinking about each other, sometimes your enemy is the one who sees you as his brother and the one who actually wants you to become a better individual, some people are aggressive at expressing their opinions, my parent used to use me as a punching bag after his work shifts when I was a kid everyday, perhaps he wanted me to be a less autistic person because he knows this world has no mercy, he tried to wake me up in his own way, many people nations civilizations cultures etc work this exact way, killing or breaking your first brother and ally forever, tough love to the point of lethalness, that's how many many people think,some stranger said your brother is a bad individual towards person b ?? Just sack your brother act as a hero and have person b c d e f g end your life in that same valley. We seriously have a hero mental problem, being a hero is a problem. Stop saving or helping unknown people, because their true nature comes out later on, and it always is not pleasant. Stop feeling the pressure that you are responsible for the pains of others in this world, many people should stay just that way for the sake of the better good. If I had a new book on moral code I would add "though shall not save the unknown" many nations ended exactly that way, including mine and probably yours is on the way if you keep trying to act as a hero. Stick to the known, and that's most probably initially yourself ! you know yourself better than anyone, so do the thing that you can do best, help yourself, dream, and only help the known, you, your kids, yourself, your cats, your dogs and your car's fuel tank. Stop thinking about bastards whom their next intention is to pickpocket the next pant pocket and use the money to buy guns to make a vevo video and shoot the young new kid in the favella to appear cool. As I said heroism is immoral a disease and a stain on humanity
Animals mostly live far longer under himan care than they do in the wild. A wild animal will attack you for no reason, as a reflection of its own exoeriences. Animals do not have it good out there in the wild at all.
That's the lie they are telling us because they want more slaves! The truth is the world population is still growing. They say we Will be 10 billion soon, and after that it will start to drop. Truth is it's not dropping fast enough!! Even 1 billion seems to much, our species is the most destructive and we are growing like cáncer, sadly😢
No, most just are too damn busy trying to build a life for themselves and aren't even dating. They most definitely aren't all actively coping with thoughts about their unborn children and patting themselves on the back for not giving them life.
it's sad but 100000x sadder for animals, having to go through hell in factory farms and slaughterhouses. or becoming roadkill. or dying from starvation. or being consumed by predators.
You know that most animals have such little brain function that they actually don't have an existential crisis left and right. That sadness, is you, projecting.
this video broke my heart and i could relate to the frustration. i’ve struggled with anxiety and depression for most of life, to a point where i tried to unalive myself and that’s one of the main reasons why i don’t want kids. it would be incredibly unfair of me to pass this onto an innocent soul. thank you for your vulnerability and for speaking up about this!
Life is slavery even without other people oppressing you. This experience is filled with limitations & unpredictability. The one certainty is people suffer. Pain is inescapable
I am an Antinatalist and everything you said is correct. Even if you're born rich that doesn't guarantee a good life. Your parents can still be abusive or you could be born with or develop an awful disease at any point of your life. If none of that happens everything could be going fine then some random stranger could stab you for no good reason. Life is an STD with a 100% fatality rate
Exactly. Rich parents are no guarantee of happiness. In fact, I always thought rich kids are more at risk for becoming drug addicts and dying due to a never-ending supply of money to overdose
@@VannessaVAthat's true. I work at a private school and all of the kids come from rich parents. Since I've been there two kids have committed suicide. I went to public school and that never happened in my 13 years as a student.
My parents were moderately rich narcissists, my sibling a narcissist too. They spent money on themselves. Now that they're gone, and abused me for what they groomed me - to take care of their unregulated emotional needs and to care for them in their old age, I am poor. All my mother's shinny shoes and fancy handbags did absolutely nothing for me. Poor, depressed and anxious, that's what I am.
Plus any kids that you would bring in the world. They most certainly will face health issues and being sick. And many other problems that we can't even see yet. Because they haven't happened yet.
I'm 50 years old, trust me society is only getting worse and always has been. Also the planet is going to shit. Having kids is the most selfish act, its done for the parents desire and nothing else.
A 50 year old depressed man that sees negative in everything in life is telling a young man nothing in this world is worth living for what a person to take advice from. I feel bad honestly that your 50 and this upset with your life in general and were you are in life. Nobody that is even decently happy thinks this way or suggest others to think or feel this way. It’s stupid and honestly immature asf.
I will tell you the truth the truth is you and anyone that thinks like you is being fooled by the devil and his tricks. The devils got you stuck in negativity stuck in seeing and thinking negatively about any and everything it’s his life’s work to do so he is real very real his energy is everywhere in this world. The devil wants to bring this upon everyone anyone he can he tries even harder to bring these type of feeling and emotion to believers in Christ especially. it’s his goal to take people away into an Abyss of negativity and spirals of all kinds until you just don’t care about life or anything in general. Next it’s why wake up tomorrow what’s point of living !? I pray you find happiness and peace bro and I truly mean it !!!
What I hate is how quick parents switch up as soon as the child reaches 10 years old. They act all nice and available when the child is a baby and they take it away quickly.
Not everyone's parents are your parents. And at a certain point, all parents need to stop babying their children. That's not to say that there isn't an issue with modern parents not being involved enough in their kids' lives, but they aren't supposed to be friends with their kids.
In another life I would be ok with having kids… But in this one. My childhood damaged me. I have been falsely accused, mistreated, bullied, lied to, ignored and shunned and people expect me to have kids after all that.
I used to think this way. Until I realized how much better of a head on my shoulders that I have compared to most modern parents. I know now that I'd make a great dad. All I need now is to have a financially stable career and a woman that I can trust to not betray me a decade after getting married 😅
Because people love getting a kick out seeing other people struggle having a kids creates thats struggle for others to criticising your parenting skills it just gives people something to to talk about @furundum
Thank you so much for this brother. It definitely was a reassurance to my already made up mind about not having kids in the first place. Thank you, Brodie. I wish you well.🙌🏾🙏🏾
Always makes me smile when people try to shame people who choose not to have kids. They say it’s so selfish not to have kids, when the reality is, bringing another life into existence is just about the most selfish thing a person can ever do. I love my unborn children so profoundly and so deeply, that I’ve chosen never bring them into existence, into a life of constant struggle, risk and suffering. None of us chose to be here. In fact, we’re not even supposed to be here. But since we are here, we should do what we can to enjoy life with simple acts of kindness to ease the suffering of other humans and animals who are already here ❤
It's wrong to shame people for either choice. How can you both be so fucking bleak about existence while feigning this altruistic bullshit about the lowering of suffering like you're some fucking martyr. Get over yourself! And what in the fuck do you mean about, "we're not supposed to be here?" How in the fuck would you know? Is this what your spirit guides have told you? Because it sure as hell wasn't God, so I don't know what other camp you could belong to that would make you say that with such confidence. This video, and everyone commenting makes me fucking sick. And that's saying something considering that Twitter exists.
Add to the fact that EVERYTHING has become boring. Where is all the fun places to go with friends and family? Very little of them exist anymore. Then even when you think of something fun to do it is out of your price range. 😑So if I can barely survive on my own then WHY bother having kids? Female here and kids are the last thing on my mind. Survival. That's it.
Hello, thank you for phrasing all of this, I have had these types of thoughts for the longest time ever and I'm still young but as the time goes by it only gets more soul crushing. I have been convinced that the people who do choose to have kids- it makes me sad, I am so bitter towards them, I can't believe how stupid that is I feel the smallest ounce of logic and some empathy would have led more people to stop seeing bringing new lives into this hellscape as a good thing. It is sad to me how few people irl I meet that relate to this even in the slightest.
I am an AN and have always felt this way, in my 50s now, and no kids and no regrets...just relief. I have thought ALOT about the AN pov over the years and although for me I will never change my view on it, I did come up with an argument against it.
Thanks for your bravery to share these thoughts! I feel this way about so many thing i.e., motherhood, marriage, homeownership, etc... I am NOT against any of it, I just hate how one can be made to feel less than when they don't have/aspire to it. Or when you have it, but curate it to look like what you need it to be for your own sanity. I feel like many of us will never admit to living a life we truly don't desire, to avoid shame and judgement...
This was recommended to me… I found out about antinatalism in 2020 and hold it dear to my heart. I’ll always be child free and you’re not wrong about a single thing in this video! Newly subscribed. ❤ I truly wish the best for you in life … I know it’s hellish. 😢 We deserve so much better! You’re not alone.
I was just recommended this. I've suffered through multitudes of childhood trauma, lost potential as a gifted child in a public school system, a stubborn, pseudo intellectual religious family that looked down on me from my difficulties in dealing with PTSD and anger issues, depression, and a mother that was sick for the first 21 years of my life who's life was changed by having me and lived for me, and it was a struggle dealing with her deterioration leading up to her passing... All that being said. You people are all fucking insane! Absolute doomers that fail to see the point of life and that it isn't all sunshine and rainbows. Humans are very complex creatures. If you really, truly were as bleak about life and existence as you all claim to be, you would commit Jonestown 2: Electric Boogaloo!
I grew up having to raise my younger sibs. By the age of 13 I swore I would never have kids, mostly bc I wanted to have a better life as an adult. Now with the world in such horrible shape, I'm doubly glad I never had kids. I am 63 and I've never regretted that decision. Good for you, young man 👍
It's a blessing in it's self to be wise enough to know better then to have kids. But the government will always push for more children/slaves and ostracize those who don't play their evil games... Saldly.
@@zd3994 Even if they manage to survive the system, they'll never survive the inherent meaningless of life. They won't feel miserable in the same sense that like the guy who made the video or the people in the comment section do, but they'll feel miserable non the less or at least realize how they were just fooling themselves at the end their lives
Imo the issue is how adult life is structured. EVERYTHING IS OVERLY COMPLICATED AND EXPENSIVE. You're essentially adding to the slave population unless you're wealthy. Is that really what you want? I'd love to raise a kid but in america as it is rn? HELL NO
I can remember a moment back when I was very young before I could crawl, and I distinctly recall looking out from my crib bars and having the feeling of landing in jail or prison. I thought to myself without words that I "miscalculated my maneuver" and ended up ensared by a huge net. I was very bummed out and felt like a failure in prison, blocked from my destination, with the crib bars surrounding and enslaving my being until the sentence was up. Very vivid memory.
As a 50+ year old mother and grandmother, there is nothing glorious about parenthood. This is especially true in this current climate and economical downturn. I strongly recommend against procreating. This world is a miserable place. You are on point in this video. Wise beyond your years.
I’m often told that I’m selfish for not having kids. I think it’s selfish TO have kids. My mom always told me that she had me to have someone love her unconditionally which she never showed me herself. I just don’t think that’s fair. I also grew up with a lot of illnesses and now I’m fully disabled and the government won’t help me. Why are people still pressured into having kids when so many people that are already alive need help? It makes no sense. There’s so many homeless and hungry people. There’s not even enough room to give everyone homes already. Most women get sexually assaulted, the world is literally burning, telling us to stop. Global warming is depressing, it’s almost impossible to find food that doesn’t have plastic in it or something else that makes us sick. Until we can take care of who’s already here, animals and nature included, we don’t need to be adding more and stopping myself from adding to the problem isn’t selfish. It’s nice to see someone else who doesn’t want kids.
I used to think about not being born all the time. My parents had money, but my dad lacked any emotional warmth and still does. Now I'm 20, I have a decent amount of money, but I'm deeply unhappy. I was somewhat okay middle-highschool, but college years have slapped me in the face. Honestly, I feel like everyone that has a kid is kinda selfish. Not in an evil way, but you have no idea how that kid will feel or live growing up. You're having a kid because of your want. And you could be the most emotionally intelligent and open parent that knows how to respond to your kids needs and wants perfectly, and they could still be miserable because they can't find a job or house or make friends or they're disabled.
I wholeheartedly agree with you on this topic. Unless, you are born into a family of wealth, children WILL stuffer. A lot of people will argue that it's a matter of perspective and we need to think positively, but no amount of positivity sails away the reality of work and being a wage slave.
I’m 31 and I’ve been on this same stance of not having kids since I was in my teens. I’m currently in a relationship of almost 5 years and we’re both on the same page. No kids. We just don’t see the world the same as our parents did. The whole 9 yards of having kids, owning a home and getting married is far away for us and will be even further for the next generation. I have a degree in business and several years of government work experience and I’m still struggling to get ahead. Me and the gf are more worried about supporting ourselves let alone another human being. Yeah, having kids is just not worth it anymore. I don’t mind ending up alone in the end because from what others who have kids told me is they’re alone anyways in nursing homes. You made the right choice my friend.
I'm in my 50's and didn't ever have kids nor a wife nor with anyone either. I simply didn't fall in love with anyone nor have a solid career and the desire to buy a house and be tied down. I was a soldier, teacher, and temp worker who traveled the world many times. Exploring was far more important, but I'm no longer a big wanderlust in my 50's now preferring to not be stressed about visa time limits and being on the move too much. It's going to be too much of a time and money demand to actually have and raise kids. Most who do have the money to a pay all that are working all the time not able to be home and with the kids enough. It's crazy in the 21st century making little sense so I don't blame young adults for deciding and announcing they're not having kids. I'm grateful I didn't bring kids into this horrible dreadful mess of the 21st century.
Im a parent ( by accident) you got the right idea. This world is hell. Im one and done. I was alive in the 90’s and this is a dystopia. Dont have kids its a good way to silently protest and get the system to change.
I don't tolerate the world as it is either and I also don't have a choice. I hate the abuse of power and worplace bullying and explotation but I have to witness it everyday, day in, day out and, worse, play along. Why would anyone subject their child to this world?
What I found hilarious because I don’t think it was intended to be sarcasm was your “have a great day” at the end of the video. Tasted bitter after the video. Love triumphs over all. If I speak of truth but have not love then I am a noisy gong. If I give charity but have not love in my heart then it is worthless. Love will triumph over all and IS worth fighting for. I look at my life as a street fight man I’m just in the mix getting hit, sucker punched, throwing my hands back, movin and keeping the head on a swivel!! I love the fight man. Yes this life is depressing, yes I’ve been knocked down, yes I’ve been rejected, yes I’m a failure, yes I’ve done wrong. I refuse to lose my HOPE! You can take my freedom, my food, my money, and even my life!!!! BUT THEY CAN’T TAKE AWAY MY FAITH!!!!! Do not worry what you will eat, what you will wear next, where the next dollar will come from, is this life not more than food and clothes on your back? Be careful of letting the lack of things discourage and diminish your hope, nihilism is very dangerous and will bare no fruit for you. This life will test you, poke you, shove you around; how you respond is very important! It’s okay to cry. It’s okay to feel discouraged. There were days I couldn’t get up from bed I was so depressed. Felt like the life got sucked right out of me. I kept reading and reading, kept my body moving and getting drenched in sweat. Looked in the mirror and told myself what I didn’t want to hear. I fix myself before I take the plank in my neighbor’s eye. LOVE
Over the years I’ve heard countless people say they want children so that they can pass down a legacy, but honestly what legacy are you creating your children are going to age and die one day too they won’t be alive forever. Maybe I look at the idea of a legacy different than most people but when I think about a legacy I look at it as something that will exist forever and that will have a long lasting impact on people for centuries. The majority people never create or do anything significant enough to pass down to their children anyways so what legacy is there.
Thats pure narcissism/egotism. Anyone who achieves something in life will be remembered for a short while at least, no one gets remembered just by having kids and no one remembers the parents of someone famous.
You do whatever you think is best. It’s good that we get the option today. I’m a woman and child free too and at 31, I’m too old and not financially sound to be having them anyways. I’m not having kids for so many other reasons and for similar reasons you’ve talked about here.
Since when is 31 too old to have a kid? But yes I’m all for ppl choosing whether or not kids are right for them, not just having them for selfish reasons or societal expectations
@ it’s not too old for others, not at all. I’m just saying it’s too old for me personally! I still having figured out life and have nothing to give them in terms of a financially sound life. I’m too poor and too stupid and too old to get it all figured out right now. If they have an autoimmune diseases plus mental illness like I do I’d feel responsible and terrible and it’s overwhelming taking care of myself. I can hardly take care of the child that is me! Lol
@@_Chessa_No one has kids and has life all figured out. As having kids is a part of life. It doesn't have to be part of everyone's lives, but it's still a major life learning experience.
I completely agree with you and disagree with anyone telling you that you have depression or something is wrong with you and you need to speak to a therapist about it. These are real problems that are in the world and a therapist won't make that go away or help you cope. I think you have already found the first step to coping with it, not bringing a child into this world. It simply does not make any sense to want to create another human to just go through life struggles like the rest of us. I don't see a point in that. Our mindset may be different when we found someone we love and want to settle down with and share a child with, but it is still a bad idea if you are thinking about what that child would have to go through in the future.
It is absolutely not harder now. Owning property and climbing a corporate ladder is harder, but overall the quality of human life has gotten drastically better in the last few decades alone. Every time people complain about things being far worse never actually research and compare to how things were in in the early to mid 20th century. Things are much better. They aren't perfect, but they're better than before.
I’m new to the concept of antinatalism. I could never find a solid concrete reason to have children other than to “heal” my trauma. What a selfish thought! I don’t want my child to inherit my traumas and sufferings and financial issues later down the line because I wanted self-gratification and self-pleasure. It’s a horrible world we live in with war, unbearable jobs, ridiculous cost of living, etc. I would be a horrible person to willingly submit someone else to live the same fate as me. This made me get emotional, thank you so much for really opening my eyes to the truth and how prevalent but awful these issues are!
hey, man! the algorithm recommended me to you and all you're saying is all true. capitalism, politics in general, existential crisis are all too much for us in our 20s! you're not the only one who thinks this way. the world we live in right now is disgusting and a harsh reality we deal with every single day. i feel your pain, but keep your head up high and stay safe always!
Sorry for my english... I chosed don't have kids just because today I see my life alone. I was projecting my dreams in my "possible future kids". Another reason is because my country is expensive. I have more chances to grow... Personaly, I don't think the "bad World" is a good point. When I was depressed, I saw it the same. But, I respect it.
Telling people what? To not continue the existence of our species? Yeah, I can probably understand how that would have a low success rate. Save what's left of your sanity and just focus on your lonely, miserable self.
You little fountain of intelligence You are too "brainwashed" to understand that kids that you are having is being nothing but a labor worker who is gonna spend his life working 12 hours a day because of your little selfish desires to have kids . @@Verasoul
@@Verasoultell me one unselfish reason to have kids? What are you gonna win out of continuning the human species whom didn't ask to be continued other than more pollution,wars,global warming, 5Iavery , corruptiuon . It seems like you are under the influence of polyanna.
Im gonna be 27 soon and i understand everything your saying and how you feel, i really want kids but i dont think its possible anymore because when I just look at the state of the world, its just terrible in every way & aspect and I would hate to see my children suffer.
Ask yourself why do you wants. Is it more for your own happiness or their happiness? If you're honest with yourself then you'll make the more caring decision.
I’m seeing what he’s saying in action. HE is the child taking the brunt of the emotions towards what’s going on with his parents. How they feel. Their resentment. I could never put that on a child. Seeing me that way and feeling like it’s their fault or “why did you do this to me??” Like omg that would break me
Life is just cope. Fame, fortune, dating, are all cope. Nobody remembers the person that was a millionaire in 1800. Or the hero warrior of a nation from medieval times, who's lineage led to a guy in the 21st century who is a failed yoga instructor. None of this will matter.
Facts 💯 And also thinking about de*ath, and realising one day you'll dissappear forever like youve never existed, makes me question what's all that struggling really for?
We are made for survival: Happiness is the treat for surviving something. No space for danger, no space for happiness, because survival is not possible, therefore no happiness can be triggered. Money will make you happy if it is the tool for survival. If not, it will bring survival out of your life and therefore the ability to reach the state of happiness.
10:39 "Poor people having kids...why" Poor people having kids is some kind of next level evil that is totally beyond my comprehension. There are interviews of people who lament that they are struggling, that they literally see kids dying of starvation in the streets, and that they wouldn't wish their life situation on anyone, asking for help, and yet when asked about how many kids they have, they gleefully talk about how they have five kids. EVIL.
18 year old girl here i am not surfering from anything, I just simply don't want kids, I am living with my mother i want to work, save up as much as i can, and then move out, I don't see kids in my future but society will try to brainwash me into thinking that i need kids just because I am a woman I hate that with all my heart
Yep it all boils down to money, and now in addition to geopolitics (is the country safe/close to something problematic for the near future). Hardly anything is affordable for us non elites, meaning salary vs what the job demands. Not to mention all the biological components of life like illness, possible contusions or accidents, being bullied or rejected by the rest of the herd. It's all brootal. And most kids are born by accident anyway. Only the elites plan their offspring because they need someone to take over, not of course, out of love or something humane like that
Life is great if your old and own a bunch of stocks/business/real estate. For all us young people our wages have stagnated while capital resources (real estate,stocks,businesses) rise so much faster. Since we are young get most of our money from wages not ownership of stuff so we have increasingly got poorer and poorer. (and therefore less kids)
Not all of us older adults own stocks and assets. I tried stocks and entrepreneurship off and on since I was a kid, but couldn't achieve career success and financial independence. Poorest ever in my 50's. I actually thrived best as a kid who worked by going door to door and tending a half acre garden with jet black rich soil for that was so happening 40 years ago. The cost of living was so low with many things almost free and even house montage or rent was only $100 a month. We also had wild fish and game we harvested instead of eating in restaurants and out of Walmart and Kroger. I find myself getting poorer as I age for the inflation is too much while opportunity decreases. The problem I had as a kid often coming home with a pocket full of cash was my brother stole it every time and I didn't bank nor now about finance yet. Most kids can't bank until they're 18 unless via their parents account for juveniles can't enter contracts and do business like adults.
The reason I'm not gonna have kids (I'm 29) is because I will financially cripple myself and I'll be forced to spin the hamster wheel for another 20 years or so and not have much money left over. Also, it's not guaranteed that my kid would even want to take care of me as I get older, I don't control their wants and dreams. Also, the kid will have a much, MUCH harder life than I do, and I don't have the easiest life. I've been taking care of my mother for 15 years now, been taking care of her food, her bathroom business and other hygiene etc. I also go to a 9-5 to work for pay that is in a decade-deep wage pit due to inflation in my country. I will work until I have enough to sustain my utility bills for the rest of my life and I will attempt to be self-reliant and self-sufficient with my food and health. I find that's one of the few ways I feel some sort of purpose and pride in this life - trying to survive on my own. I was birthed in order to take care of my parents and I will do that - for a small amount of money in return. That small amount of money I get for helping my mother plus my wages is just enough to retire in 10-12 years - when I'm around 40. That's extremely good in this economy, but I'm also giving all I've got to achieve it. My father's retirement age is 65. My retirement age is 70. My kid's would be around 75 I assume. All I've got to say, take control of your life, don't work as a slave, work for yourself and your partner if you have one, and spend more time dedicating your free time to fulfilling activities, like passion projects etc. That's the way to contentment and happiness, at least for myself.
@@josebro352 lol you dont be honest about it,,black people are now waking up to the fact the only way to fight racism is to stop giving birth to future black people to continue the cycle of suffering
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As a childfree woman, I’m often told that I’ll never know true love until I have a baby.
The greatest act of love I could give to my child is not bringing it into this world.
Amen.
Yet people call you "selfish", while the opposite is actually true. People who are pro birth are the most selfish bunch I've seen. They have children, simply for the sake of it, not caring or thinking about the likely suffering the child has to endure for the rest of his/her life. They want to show their families "Look, we have a child! We're successful, aren't we?"
@@dee23gamingexactly it’s all fucked it’s like that one Harvey danger song “been around the world and found that only stupid people are breeding” it’s too true
Cope.
WHAT FUCKING CHILD?!
Why throw more innocent life here just to struggle, age, and die?
not to agreee or disagree, but only to raise discussion...the argument im hearing against this recently is that these lives will change something about the world.
see all this shit going on? these ppl u bring into this world MIGHT change it
not saying i agree or disagree with u, but that's the counterargument i've recently heard
So for you, we should bring people into this world to change the world when we’re not even close to fixing any issues in our lifetime. You’re basically gambling with future kids since you said they “MIGHT” change the world when they also possibly cannot
@@LifeOutrage I'm not saying it's MY view, I'm just saying that it's A view....
And like....yea there are criticisms....but at the same time....idk, we can't change these issues by ourselves.
We can't challenge this whole structure without having a "nation"
Again, not MY view....it's just A view
To be your nanny/caretaker when you re old and weak
@@englishengaged-456 I see this view as cowered there billions of people they failed to change world tell how your kid can change the world these possibility changing world one in trillion so yeah your kid will end like us depress sad miserable
there’s more suffering than there is joy in this life
That's the truth
FINALLY SOMEONE SAID IT
Facts
life is suffering
GAY
You are 100% correct. I have crippling autism and my life has been a living hell. No friends, misunderstood by family members all completely out of my control. I wish I was never born.
This prolly doesn't help but you're not alone 👍 I agree with that statement.
I'm with u 💯
Same to all those. Why would I want to give my child a million autoimmune allergies and isolation due to severe abuse from two narc parents who psychologically tortured me as the eldest and i had to take care of 4 younger siblings as a child...because they were addicted to having babies!
Oh masters degrees flying abound...we were first world poor too.
I have autism (ASD) , but if I wasn't suppose to exist , then why am I here? make the best of what you got despite the negativity of society . People can't be happy for you , they can only be happy with you. So be happy and stop catering to what society wants you to be and be who you want to be. If you try too hard to be like everyone else to fit in , then were is the uniqueness ? BE UNIQUE , STAND OUT , BE A LEADER , NOT A FOLLOWER , BREAK YOURSELF AWAY FROM THE HIVE .
Same I wish I was never been born .
Crazy thing to think about is that not a single person on this planet ever chose to be here, someone else made that choice for them.
I'm not having kids because I don't want them to deal with all the bullshit I dealt with and still deal with today.
exactly, wise person
Greater later Boss Keep Pushing 🤞
This is so true. I HATE when people complain about life and continue to have kids and make other dumb decisions. At some point I stop feeling sorry for people if they don’t understand simple basic decisions.
Yup, people complain about life than start having kids
It's Idiocracy fr
@@vestabelt then they are gonna cry about why their child isn't gonna take care after them , pure idoitsm ...
Entitled people 🤦🏻♂️
They're just being a hypocrite on themselves
People think misery is normal and that continuing it is their duty
Misery loves company.
I swear so many people are obsessed with feeling anxious, miserable, or whatever... I don't get it. It's like some weird trauma bonding ritual or something.
Gen Z is the generation that's looking at this world for what it is. This world is brutal.
Millennials are very aware. We’ve been through it all at this point
@@JBRN7891 Yeah Millennials seen it all but continue coping and censoring themselves. Millennials submitted. Gen Z bare minimum is speaking out and we dont speak in code.
@@JBRN7891Still millions of millennials are procreating like pigs.
Our generation has a bad rep because of tiktok but millienials and gen z are the most intellectual , awake and socially intelligent generation .
@@Florida_man.2As a 57 year old man I totally agree you guys are awakening to a level of realization that my Gen X and Boomer peers never have. The human race is about to undergo a huge transformation PSYCHOLOGICALLY. That is going to spur outrage and a urge to overthrow the entire scam. I dont know when, but I feel as if I now have tens of millions of allies that exist who didnt exist 40 years ago when I was a youngster. Its totally strange. It feels like my people are finally arriving on the earth. This has been so unexpected because it has only become clear over the past few years - beginning with the millennials that this was really what was happening. Awakening!
I also never understood this. Parents struggle so much and for what?
To allow me to struggle (probably even more) in the future???
Majority of the time people reproduce out of peer pressure & ignorance of not seeing the big picture & reality of life on this spinning rock in space
@@adamsnelson4689 Yes, agree. They see all the people around them and FOMO kicks in.
And then have to nerve to complain about their “struggling” to their children as if their children asked to be here or like they owe them something. Nutjob psychopaths at their finest.
Bro, I live in India and even beggars have like 2-3 kids and then they make the kids beg like wtf. And then some idiots will start blaming the government for being unable to provide for those idiots.
I mean it’s a part of being alive . You also can have joy and success even though it’s extremely hard. I used to hate my parents for giving birth to me but a ton of people- most even want to be alive despite everything and they love their parents and appreciate it.
You get it. Break away from the programming, we see reality.
EXACTLY. it's programing.
They serve you literal sht on a plate and if you don't want to eat it with a smile on your face there's something wrong with you.
It is no measure of health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society.
Jiddu Krishnamurti
Yep. This world is closer to a nightmare than a pleasant place.
@@beeba_seeba this quote is fire
@@jamaisvx yup krishnamurti was a real one
"bringing a child to this world is considering an act of cruelty" - nicolas cage
If Nicholas cage is considered a philosopher then am officially in the ancestor age group
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Completely agree with all these points. The “worker bee” mentality runs way too deep in society, sadly. As well as the “have a kid to take care of me when I get old.” What??
It hell
They probably will toss your a*s in a retirement home 😜
It’s cruel to bring a child here.
Especially in 2025 !!!
And sending them to ‘school’ getting the brainwashed by stupid ideologies and wicked environment.
My mother made sure that we knew that the worst thing in life that ever happened to her was becoming a mother. Poor people who have children are cruel and abusive to bring children into this world that they can’t even afford to survive in themselves. Most people should not have children. Most parents are horrible parents. This is why I did not have children. I learned from all of the horrible parents I saw around me, torturing all of the children they had. Children they had because they accidentally created them or deliberately created them just to make themselves feel like they did what they were supposed to do, according to this sick society that the breeders do nothing at all to improve. I never ever regret not having children. I spared any children I would’ve had, of this ridiculous hell full of selfish thoughtless people who only breed for egomaniacal reasons or social acceptance.
I feel the same way .
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i feel the same way you do. the imposition of birth is a moral crime.
Totally get you. I'm a 51 female. Your statement about your dad is the same as mine. I would watch my dad come home exhausted and he hated his job at the factory to come home to three bratty daughters! I could see it all over his face, especially as a teenager.
To be fair to our parents they were lied too by our governments that made our purpose work, reproduce, and die. The rat race is killing humanity on the inside
The existential implications of creating life is poorly understood by a lot of people. My most painful realization was understanding that my creation wasn’t planned or thought out but was a result of selfish emotional reactions and desires for pleasure
it shouldnt be planned, it should be from an emotional reaction. the problem is humans arent adapted to this artificial world we live in, which through adaptation will create alot of suffering.
I was carefully planned and prayed for only to be abused and neglected. Ik a lot of “ accidents” who had great parents. It’s sex and sometimes shit happens abortion is extremely hard on you in every single way
I have been saying this for years and finally others see what I have been saying all along and I don’t feel alone. Thank you so much for this video.
Mental, Emotional, Physical, Financial PAIN!!! Antinatalism.
Those are the 3 levels of hell. Welcome the hell realm called earth.
Anti-natalists rise!
You don't think negative, this experience is negative... I understand how you feel ❤
@@Celwood this is exactly how it is!
@@LifeOutrageI'm with ya! I want out too. 😢
That’s really a great great way to put it.
@@JohnsMind98 Appreciate you! I just feel so sad for a lot of people because they think something is wrong with them, when in reality they are probably just good people trying to figure out how to make it through life in a cruel world...
@@Celwoodi needed that, thanks
I am a childfree woman 59. I was always brought up as an independent thinker. It was a lot easier for me to choose the childfree lifestyle. I had some aunts who had no children and I saw that they had a very good life, unlike women who were mothers, who seemed miserable and had no quality of life other than chores and kids stuff and moaning about them, and forcing religion on them. They wanted me to believe what they believed. As a woman I would hate pregancy and childbirth and as women we are not even safe walking alone in case a man wants to rape and kill us. It is not a safe world and also who knows I could even make a criminal. Not having kids is brilliant, it reduces crime and victims and I won't die from childbirth or be a single mother. I have a social life as I have hobbies and I volunteer, but it isn't huge and I like that. great video
You're right that people would rather have you pretending everything's okay than be honest
I just desperately do not want to engage with the system at all.
@@fideldisalvo I completely feel you. Sadly we have to engage with it just to simply survive and I find that completely pathetic
@@LifeOutrageI feel it too.But i heard someone with a intresting view on this. He said " If you want to survive you have to work period" Wheather you live in a society or not like our ancestors in caves who died without hunting. Made me think.And im not sure if the acestors always wanted to go hunting. Its kinda true 😆
Other people are the biggest annoyance about life. They are so immature and dysfunctional
YES
I feel like earth, animals, and the ecosystem will be better off if we humans never existed. Like I can imagine a better place for them without us. Think about it, we are the reason so many unnecessary horrible things happen, it really is our fault.
Like what things ? Being humans is about thinking about solution no need to be this depressive
@@HappyHopefullTree Im not depressed, when you think about it, it makes sense. Also how are we going to make solutions if we never existed. The earth will still be in its healthy enivornmental state. We are the reason, things are the way they are. But yes, thinking about solutions is only for us to fix a problem WE created in the first place. My point stands. If we were never here, no problems. If we are here creating problems, great lets look for solutions. like I know we'll find solutions but solving them aren't easy. its not like erasing a grammar error and fixing it. Its way more complicated than people think. And to solve problems we need everyone's support. But the reality is.... bearly anyone cares. But I do, I try my best to do what I can for people I care about. But at the end of the day. reality is reality. You can always find solutions, yes I agree. But not all the time you can solve them. You just cant.
@@Karessertin103 you're not responsible for the pains, that's just how life is, we're just animals who have the needs to take the next breath, who think about how to achieve happiness, who outbreed our most important allies when we're on lush warm lands when they're in unfarmable ones, nature is ugly, life is ugly, backstabbing is the way many things survive and live on this earth, it's just our grandparents who thought we can make this slightly bearable for the future generations so we might as well create some principles, even though many won't follow them, sometimes you're just blocking yourself, and you'll find the thing you exactly need if you allow yourself to go forward, sometimes both of you are watching on the wall thinking about each other, sometimes your enemy is the one who sees you as his brother and the one who actually wants you to become a better individual, some people are aggressive at expressing their opinions, my parent used to use me as a punching bag after his work shifts when I was a kid everyday, perhaps he wanted me to be a less autistic person because he knows this world has no mercy, he tried to wake me up in his own way, many people nations civilizations cultures etc work this exact way, killing or breaking your first brother and ally forever, tough love to the point of lethalness, that's how many many people think,some stranger said your brother is a bad individual towards person b ?? Just sack your brother act as a hero and have person b c d e f g end your life in that same valley.
We seriously have a hero mental problem, being a hero is a problem. Stop saving or helping unknown people, because their true nature comes out later on, and it always is not pleasant. Stop feeling the pressure that you are responsible for the pains of others in this world, many people should stay just that way for the sake of the better good. If I had a new book on moral code I would add "though shall not save the unknown" many nations ended exactly that way, including mine and probably yours is on the way if you keep trying to act as a hero. Stick to the known, and that's most probably initially yourself ! you know yourself better than anyone, so do the thing that you can do best, help yourself, dream, and only help the known, you, your kids, yourself, your cats, your dogs and your car's fuel tank. Stop thinking about bastards whom their next intention is to pickpocket the next pant pocket and use the money to buy guns to make a vevo video and shoot the young new kid in the favella to appear cool. As I said heroism is immoral a disease and a stain on humanity
The system is the biggest problem.
Animals mostly live far longer under himan care than they do in the wild. A wild animal will attack you for no reason, as a reflection of its own exoeriences. Animals do not have it good out there in the wild at all.
Birth rates are falling around the world - I think a lot of people are thinking like us .
That's the lie they are telling us because they want more slaves! The truth is the world population is still growing. They say we Will be 10 billion soon, and after that it will start to drop. Truth is it's not dropping fast enough!! Even 1 billion seems to much, our species is the most destructive and we are growing like cáncer, sadly😢
Global birth rate is still going up so it's not like 8 BILLION people will die out anytime soon
No, most just are too damn busy trying to build a life for themselves and aren't even dating. They most definitely aren't all actively coping with thoughts about their unborn children and patting themselves on the back for not giving them life.
yes
it's sad but 100000x sadder for animals, having to go through hell in factory farms and slaughterhouses. or becoming roadkill. or dying from starvation. or being consumed by predators.
You know that most animals have such little brain function that they actually don't have an existential crisis left and right. That sadness, is you, projecting.
animals are too dumb to comprehend life and death
I am a 37 year old woman, without kids. I just wanted to say that I agree with you and that I think you're very responsible and wise.
I respect you and I’m a 23 year old guy
@@doovplayz Thank you :)
im 33 im interested in women just not the kid part but sometimes for other women men should have kids depending on their parent skills
this video broke my heart and i could relate to the frustration. i’ve struggled with anxiety and depression for most of life, to a point where i tried to unalive myself and that’s one of the main reasons why i don’t want kids. it would be incredibly unfair of me to pass this onto an innocent soul.
thank you for your vulnerability and for speaking up about this!
I am 60.I never had kids to be abused like cattle in the system I could see my entire adult life. I have zero regrets about that.
Respect. Even your cat looks fed up
Life is slavery even without other people oppressing you.
This experience is filled with limitations & unpredictability.
The one certainty is people suffer. Pain is inescapable
I am an Antinatalist and everything you said is correct. Even if you're born rich that doesn't guarantee a good life. Your parents can still be abusive or you could be born with or develop an awful disease at any point of your life. If none of that happens everything could be going fine then some random stranger could stab you for no good reason. Life is an STD with a 100% fatality rate
Exactly. Rich parents are no guarantee of happiness. In fact, I always thought rich kids are more at risk for becoming drug addicts and dying due to a never-ending supply of money to overdose
@@VannessaVAthat's true. I work at a private school and all of the kids come from rich parents. Since I've been there two kids have committed suicide. I went to public school and that never happened in my 13 years as a student.
My parents were moderately rich narcissists, my sibling a narcissist too. They spent money on themselves. Now that they're gone, and abused me for what they groomed me - to take care of their unregulated emotional needs and to care for them in their old age, I am poor. All my mother's shinny shoes and fancy handbags did absolutely nothing for me. Poor, depressed and anxious, that's what I am.
nothing but the brutal honest truth
Wealth is not a guarantee of health or happiness.
I realized that upon editing the video, I take that back lol
@@LifeOutrageyes but crying In royal royce is better than crying in cheap car
Something that the poor just love to tell themselves in order to make themselves feel better
Wealth is a basis for financial freedom upon which genuine happiness can be developed through an individuals self actualisation.
Wealth helps, but doesn't buy happiness or health.@@alexanderfernando2995
Most millenials and gen z will never own a house and never be able to retire.
Keep dropping.. channel will grow. People need reality nowadays.
Exactly 💯
Life also gets very boring and you lose the "magic" that you had when you were a kid.
Plus any kids that you would bring in the world. They most certainly will face health issues and being sick. And many other problems that we can't even see yet. Because they haven't happened yet.
also crime
They literally poison us
I'm 50 years old, trust me society is only getting worse and always has been. Also the planet is going to shit. Having kids is the most selfish act, its done for the parents desire and nothing else.
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A 50 year old depressed man that sees negative in everything in life is telling a young man nothing in this world is worth living for what a person to take advice from. I feel bad honestly that your 50 and this upset with your life in general and were you are in life. Nobody that is even decently happy thinks this way or suggest others to think or feel this way. It’s stupid and honestly immature asf.
I will tell you the truth the truth is you and anyone that thinks like you is being fooled by the devil and his tricks.
The devils got you stuck in negativity stuck in seeing and thinking negatively about any and everything it’s his life’s work to do so he is real very real his energy is everywhere in this world.
The devil wants to bring this upon everyone anyone he can he tries even harder to bring these type of feeling and emotion to believers in Christ especially. it’s his goal to take people away into an Abyss of negativity and spirals of all kinds until you just don’t care about life or anything in general.
Next it’s why wake up tomorrow what’s point of living !?
I pray you find happiness and peace bro and I truly mean it !!!
@@Jrose91xx Please go ahead and (try) to refute the logic. I didn't even say I was unhappy I simply stated 2 facts. Which clearly you can't disprove.
facts 💯
What I hate is how quick parents switch up as soon as the child reaches 10 years old. They act all nice and available when the child is a baby and they take it away quickly.
Not everyone's parents are your parents. And at a certain point, all parents need to stop babying their children. That's not to say that there isn't an issue with modern parents not being involved enough in their kids' lives, but they aren't supposed to be friends with their kids.
@@Verasoul 💯
In another life I would be ok with having kids…
But in this one. My childhood damaged me. I have been falsely accused, mistreated, bullied, lied to, ignored and shunned and people expect me to have kids after all that.
Same here. And people expect me to have babies with my damaged mental health. I don't get it.
I used to think this way. Until I realized how much better of a head on my shoulders that I have compared to most modern parents. I know now that I'd make a great dad. All I need now is to have a financially stable career and a woman that I can trust to not betray me a decade after getting married 😅
Because people love getting a kick out seeing other people struggle having a kids creates thats struggle for others to criticising your parenting skills it just gives people something to to talk about @furundum
“No thinks for the sake of the child” I feel the exact same way!
Thank you so much for this brother. It definitely was a reassurance to my already made up mind about not having kids in the first place. Thank you, Brodie. I wish you well.🙌🏾🙏🏾
Always makes me smile when people try to shame people who choose not to have kids. They say it’s so selfish not to have kids, when the reality is, bringing another life into existence is just about the most selfish thing a person can ever do. I love my unborn children so profoundly and so deeply, that I’ve chosen never bring them into existence, into a life of constant struggle, risk and suffering. None of us chose to be here. In fact, we’re not even supposed to be here. But since we are here, we should do what we can to enjoy life with simple acts of kindness to ease the suffering of other humans and animals who are already here ❤
It's wrong to shame people for either choice. How can you both be so fucking bleak about existence while feigning this altruistic bullshit about the lowering of suffering like you're some fucking martyr. Get over yourself!
And what in the fuck do you mean about, "we're not supposed to be here?" How in the fuck would you know? Is this what your spirit guides have told you? Because it sure as hell wasn't God, so I don't know what other camp you could belong to that would make you say that with such confidence. This video, and everyone commenting makes me fucking sick. And that's saying something considering that Twitter exists.
Beautifully said!!❤
Nobody forced our parents to have kids. Their “ sacrifice “ is their own fault
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It's society's pressure 😢. Some just do it to fit in and others are forced
@ sure some people are actually forced. The majority of people aren’t.
Bringing new children into a world like this is just awful and selfish
life is a chemical reaction that wants to repeat itself
More like a virus that wants to mutate
Add to the fact that EVERYTHING has become boring. Where is all the fun places to go with friends and family? Very little of them exist anymore. Then even when you think of something fun to do it is out of your price range. 😑So if I can barely survive on my own then WHY bother having kids? Female here and kids are the last thing on my mind. Survival. That's it.
Hello, thank you for phrasing all of this, I have had these types of thoughts for the longest time ever and I'm still young but as the time goes by it only gets more soul crushing. I have been convinced that the people who do choose to have kids- it makes me sad, I am so bitter towards them, I can't believe how stupid that is
I feel the smallest ounce of logic and some empathy would have led more people to stop seeing bringing new lives into this hellscape as a good thing. It is sad to me how few people irl I meet that relate to this even in the slightest.
WOMBS MAKE TOMBS!
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Women don't fear pregnancy at all
@@finaldestination41 I do. I’m a childfree woman. Pregnancy often ruins women’s bodies.
Powerful video good channel New subscriber
From the cradle to the grave
I love my children too much to bring them into THIS world.
You are wiser than most.
Facts brother 💯
I am an AN and have always felt this way, in my 50s now, and no kids and no regrets...just relief. I have thought ALOT about the AN pov over the years and although for me I will never change my view on it, I did come up with an argument against it.
Thanks for your bravery to share these thoughts! I feel this way about so many thing i.e., motherhood, marriage, homeownership, etc... I am NOT against any of it, I just hate how one can be made to feel less than when they don't have/aspire to it. Or when you have it, but curate it to look like what you need it to be for your own sanity. I feel like many of us will never admit to living a life we truly don't desire, to avoid shame and judgement...
This was recommended to me… I found out about antinatalism in 2020 and hold it dear to my heart.
I’ll always be child free and you’re not wrong about a single thing in this video!
Newly subscribed.
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I truly wish the best for you in life … I know it’s hellish. 😢 We deserve so much better!
You’re not alone.
I was just recommended this. I've suffered through multitudes of childhood trauma, lost potential as a gifted child in a public school system, a stubborn, pseudo intellectual religious family that looked down on me from my difficulties in dealing with PTSD and anger issues, depression, and a mother that was sick for the first 21 years of my life who's life was changed by having me and lived for me, and it was a struggle dealing with her deterioration leading up to her passing...
All that being said. You people are all fucking insane! Absolute doomers that fail to see the point of life and that it isn't all sunshine and rainbows. Humans are very complex creatures. If you really, truly were as bleak about life and existence as you all claim to be, you would commit Jonestown 2: Electric Boogaloo!
I grew up having to raise my younger sibs. By the age of 13 I swore I would never have kids, mostly bc I wanted to have a better life as an adult. Now with the world in such horrible shape, I'm doubly glad I never had kids. I am 63 and I've never regretted that decision. Good for you, young man 👍
The government should give financial reward to people who do not have children.
why should they?
they won't! no kids, no more tax payers, they hate that
It's a blessing in it's self to be wise enough to know better then to have kids. But the government will always push for more children/slaves and ostracize those who don't play their evil games... Saldly.
@hrw33 we can’t give them what they want
@@NeiyMaritzwhy should people who have kids get benefits and cheques for being irresponsible and reckless?
Don't have kids if you aren't rich or not good looking.
Thats still doesn't guarantee they'll have a good life. And even rich and good looking people can suffer.
@Stevelives13 Yes, but they have much better chances surviving the system.
short, balding, poor, not good looking or if you have aspergers or tism
@@zd3994 Even if they manage to survive the system, they'll never survive the inherent meaningless of life. They won't feel miserable in the same sense that like the guy who made the video or the people in the comment section do, but they'll feel miserable non the less or at least realize how they were just fooling themselves at the end their lives
Imo the issue is how adult life is structured. EVERYTHING IS OVERLY COMPLICATED AND EXPENSIVE. You're essentially adding to the slave population unless you're wealthy. Is that really what you want? I'd love to raise a kid but in america as it is rn? HELL NO
I can remember a moment back when I was very young before I could crawl, and I distinctly recall looking out from my crib bars and having the feeling of landing in jail or prison. I thought to myself without words that I "miscalculated my maneuver" and ended up ensared by a huge net. I was very bummed out and felt like a failure in prison, blocked from my destination, with the crib bars surrounding and enslaving my being until the sentence was up. Very vivid memory.
Okay, Terrance Howard.
Old soul!
As a 50+ year old mother and grandmother, there is nothing glorious about parenthood. This is especially true in this current climate and economical downturn. I strongly recommend against procreating. This world is a miserable place. You are on point in this video. Wise beyond your years.
I’m assuming you still love your children and grandkids, but if I may ask, do you ever regret procreating in the first place?
I’m often told that I’m selfish for not having kids. I think it’s selfish TO have kids. My mom always told me that she had me to have someone love her unconditionally which she never showed me herself. I just don’t think that’s fair. I also grew up with a lot of illnesses and now I’m fully disabled and the government won’t help me. Why are people still pressured into having kids when so many people that are already alive need help? It makes no sense. There’s so many homeless and hungry people. There’s not even enough room to give everyone homes already.
Most women get sexually assaulted, the world is literally burning, telling us to stop. Global warming is depressing, it’s almost impossible to find food that doesn’t have plastic in it or something else that makes us sick.
Until we can take care of who’s already here, animals and nature included, we don’t need to be adding more and stopping myself from adding to the problem isn’t selfish. It’s nice to see someone else who doesn’t want kids.
I used to think about not being born all the time. My parents had money, but my dad lacked any emotional warmth and still does. Now I'm 20, I have a decent amount of money, but I'm deeply unhappy. I was somewhat okay middle-highschool, but college years have slapped me in the face.
Honestly, I feel like everyone that has a kid is kinda selfish. Not in an evil way, but you have no idea how that kid will feel or live growing up. You're having a kid because of your want.
And you could be the most emotionally intelligent and open parent that knows how to respond to your kids needs and wants perfectly, and they could still be miserable because they can't find a job or house or make friends or they're disabled.
I wholeheartedly agree with you on this topic. Unless, you are born into a family of wealth, children WILL stuffer. A lot of people will argue that it's a matter of perspective and we need to think positively, but no amount of positivity sails away the reality of work and being a wage slave.
I’m 31 and I’ve been on this same stance of not having kids since I was in my teens. I’m currently in a relationship of almost 5 years and we’re both on the same page. No kids. We just don’t see the world the same as our parents did. The whole 9 yards of having kids, owning a home and getting married is far away for us and will be even further for the next generation. I have a degree in business and several years of government work experience and I’m still struggling to get ahead. Me and the gf are more worried about supporting ourselves let alone another human being. Yeah, having kids is just not worth it anymore. I don’t mind ending up alone in the end because from what others who have kids told me is they’re alone anyways in nursing homes. You made the right choice my friend.
Eat healthy, talk to the Creator
I'm in my 50's and didn't ever have kids nor a wife nor with anyone either. I simply didn't fall in love with anyone nor have a solid career and the desire to buy a house and be tied down. I was a soldier, teacher, and temp worker who traveled the world many times. Exploring was far more important, but I'm no longer a big wanderlust in my 50's now preferring to not be stressed about visa time limits and being on the move too much. It's going to be too much of a time and money demand to actually have and raise kids. Most who do have the money to a pay all that are working all the time not able to be home and with the kids enough. It's crazy in the 21st century making little sense so I don't blame young adults for deciding and announcing they're not having kids. I'm grateful I didn't bring kids into this horrible dreadful mess of the 21st century.
Im a parent ( by accident) you got the right idea. This world is hell. Im one and done. I was alive in the 90’s and this is a dystopia. Dont have kids its a good way to silently protest and get the system to change.
I don't tolerate the world as it is either and I also don't have a choice. I hate the abuse of power and worplace bullying and explotation but I have to witness it everyday, day in, day out and, worse, play along. Why would anyone subject their child to this world?
What I found hilarious because I don’t think it was intended to be sarcasm was your “have a great day” at the end of the video. Tasted bitter after the video.
Love triumphs over all. If I speak of truth but have not love then I am a noisy gong. If I give charity but have not love in my heart then it is worthless. Love will triumph over all and IS worth fighting for. I look at my life as a street fight man I’m just in the mix getting hit, sucker punched, throwing my hands back, movin and keeping the head on a swivel!! I love the fight man. Yes this life is depressing, yes I’ve been knocked down, yes I’ve been rejected, yes I’m a failure, yes I’ve done wrong. I refuse to lose my HOPE! You can take my freedom, my food, my money, and even my life!!!! BUT THEY CAN’T TAKE AWAY MY FAITH!!!!!
Do not worry what you will eat, what you will wear next, where the next dollar will come from, is this life not more than food and clothes on your back?
Be careful of letting the lack of things discourage and diminish your hope, nihilism is very dangerous and will bare no fruit for you.
This life will test you, poke you, shove you around; how you respond is very important! It’s okay to cry. It’s okay to feel discouraged. There were days I couldn’t get up from bed I was so depressed. Felt like the life got sucked right out of me. I kept reading and reading, kept my body moving and getting drenched in sweat. Looked in the mirror and told myself what I didn’t want to hear. I fix myself before I take the plank in my neighbor’s eye.
LOVE
Over the years I’ve heard countless people say they want children so that they can pass down a legacy, but honestly what legacy are you creating your children are going to age and die one day too they won’t be alive forever. Maybe I look at the idea of a legacy different than most people but when I think about a legacy I look at it as something that will exist forever and that will have a long lasting impact on people for centuries. The majority people never create or do anything significant enough to pass down to their children anyways so what legacy is there.
Thats pure narcissism/egotism. Anyone who achieves something in life will be remembered for a short while at least, no one gets remembered just by having kids and no one remembers the parents of someone famous.
Religion
@@Stevelives13 yup
💫✨THEE REALEST VLOG ON UA-cam !! I FEEL AND FELT EVERY WORD DUDE ! I’M SOOO WITH YOU ON THIS
You do whatever you think is best. It’s good that we get the option today.
I’m a woman and child free too and at 31, I’m too old and not financially sound to be having them anyways. I’m not having kids for so many other reasons and for similar reasons you’ve talked about here.
Since when is 31 too old to have a kid? But yes I’m all for ppl choosing whether or not kids are right for them, not just having them for selfish reasons or societal expectations
@ it’s not too old for others, not at all.
I’m just saying it’s too old for me personally!
I still having figured out life and have nothing to give them in terms of a financially sound life. I’m too poor and too stupid and too old to get it all figured out right now. If they have an autoimmune diseases plus mental illness like I do I’d feel responsible and terrible and it’s overwhelming taking care of myself. I can hardly take care of the child that is me! Lol
@@_Chessa_No one has kids and has life all figured out. As having kids is a part of life. It doesn't have to be part of everyone's lives, but it's still a major life learning experience.
@@VerasoulNo KIDS TERRIBLE EXPERIENCE
I completely agree with you and disagree with anyone telling you that you have depression or something is wrong with you and you need to speak to a therapist about it. These are real problems that are in the world and a therapist won't make that go away or help you cope. I think you have already found the first step to coping with it, not bringing a child into this world. It simply does not make any sense to want to create another human to just go through life struggles like the rest of us. I don't see a point in that. Our mindset may be different when we found someone we love and want to settle down with and share a child with, but it is still a bad idea if you are thinking about what that child would have to go through in the future.
At the moment of copulation- one can hear the devil's laughter.
@@Arshdeepsinghdhillonz The act of procreating
@@Arshdeepsinghdhillonzjust going of context clues I am going to say bringing a child I to this world.
Life has never been all about happiness. It has never been and never will be, but we get the experience it. but the truth is life harder now.
It is absolutely not harder now. Owning property and climbing a corporate ladder is harder, but overall the quality of human life has gotten drastically better in the last few decades alone.
Every time people complain about things being far worse never actually research and compare to how things were in in the early to mid 20th century. Things are much better. They aren't perfect, but they're better than before.
The point is breeding is a choice and its not a must you have kids,society needs to deconstrunct this issue of child birth
Bro you are 100% right, keep it like that don't let anyone change your mind
I’m new to the concept of antinatalism. I could never find a solid concrete reason to have children other than to “heal” my trauma. What a selfish thought! I don’t want my child to inherit my traumas and sufferings and financial issues later down the line because I wanted self-gratification and self-pleasure. It’s a horrible world we live in with war, unbearable jobs, ridiculous cost of living, etc. I would be a horrible person to willingly submit someone else to live the same fate as me. This made me get emotional, thank you so much for really opening my eyes to the truth and how prevalent but awful these issues are!
hey, man! the algorithm recommended me to you and all you're saying is all true. capitalism, politics in general, existential crisis are all too much for us in our 20s! you're not the only one who thinks this way. the world we live in right now is disgusting and a harsh reality we deal with every single day. i feel your pain, but keep your head up high and stay safe always!
Sorry for my english... I chosed don't have kids just because today I see my life alone. I was projecting my dreams in my "possible future kids". Another reason is because my country is expensive. I have more chances to grow... Personaly, I don't think the "bad World" is a good point. When I was depressed, I saw it the same. But, I respect it.
exactly, So tired of telling people this .
Telling people what? To not continue the existence of our species? Yeah, I can probably understand how that would have a low success rate. Save what's left of your sanity and just focus on your lonely, miserable self.
@ buddy iam not misrable at all . Don’t pull facts from you a55 .all iam saying that broke pos people should not have kids .
You little fountain of intelligence
You are too "brainwashed" to understand that kids that you are having is being nothing but a labor worker who is gonna spend his life working 12 hours a day because of your little selfish desires to have kids .
@@Verasoul
@@Verasoultell me one unselfish reason to have kids?
What are you gonna win out of continuning the human species whom didn't ask to be continued other than more pollution,wars,global warming, 5Iavery , corruptiuon .
It seems like you are under the influence of polyanna.
@@VerasoulUA-cam deleted my answer to you . I love how UA-cam silence people who tells the truth.
Tell me one unselfish reason to have kids ?
Im gonna be 27 soon and i understand everything your saying and how you feel, i really want kids but i dont think its possible anymore because when I just look at the state of the world, its just terrible in every way & aspect and I would hate to see my children suffer.
Ask yourself why do you wants. Is it more for your own happiness or their happiness? If you're honest with yourself then you'll make the more caring decision.
Top notch video. Keep making more.
My daughter isn’t having any children either and I 💯 support that decision
I’m seeing what he’s saying in action. HE is the child taking the brunt of the emotions towards what’s going on with his parents. How they feel. Their resentment. I could never put that on a child. Seeing me that way and feeling like it’s their fault or “why did you do this to me??” Like omg that would break me
Yea I agree, that's too much to put on a child
I would never let a precious Baby on this hell plant ! To me its a selfish crime
Life is just cope. Fame, fortune, dating, are all cope. Nobody remembers the person that was a millionaire in 1800. Or the hero warrior of a nation from medieval times, who's lineage led to a guy in the 21st century who is a failed yoga instructor. None of this will matter.
Exactly 💯 It's so true. Work slaves until the day we die. Sad but true. Struggles will come. Life has so many hardships.
Facts 💯
And also thinking about de*ath, and realising one day you'll dissappear forever like youve never existed, makes me question what's all that struggling really for?
especially when those period cramps hit. ha.
We are made for survival: Happiness is the treat for surviving something.
No space for danger, no space for happiness, because survival is not possible, therefore no happiness can be triggered.
Money will make you happy if it is the tool for survival. If not, it will bring survival out of your life and therefore the ability to reach the state of happiness.
you're aware and awake.
10:39 "Poor people having kids...why"
Poor people having kids is some kind of next level evil that is totally beyond my comprehension.
There are interviews of people who lament that they are struggling, that they literally see kids dying of starvation in the streets, and that they wouldn't wish their life situation on anyone, asking for help, and yet when asked about how many kids they have, they gleefully talk about how they have five kids.
EVIL.
Nobody should have kids but especially not working class people and impoverished
18 year old girl here i am not surfering from anything, I just simply don't want kids, I am living with my mother i want to work, save up as much as i can, and then move out, I don't see kids in my future but society will try to brainwash me into thinking that i need kids just because I am a woman I hate that with all my heart
Yep it all boils down to money, and now in addition to geopolitics (is the country safe/close to something problematic for the near future). Hardly anything is affordable for us non elites, meaning salary vs what the job demands. Not to mention all the biological components of life like illness, possible contusions or accidents, being bullied or rejected by the rest of the herd. It's all brootal. And most kids are born by accident anyway. Only the elites plan their offspring because they need someone to take over, not of course, out of love or something humane like that
If you're rich and have a kid so many things can still go wrong. No one is exempt from suffering though those kids would probably suffer less
Life is great if your old and own a bunch of stocks/business/real estate. For all us young people our wages have stagnated while capital resources (real estate,stocks,businesses) rise so much faster. Since we are young get most of our money from wages not ownership of stuff so we have increasingly got poorer and poorer. (and therefore less kids)
Not all of us older adults own stocks and assets. I tried stocks and entrepreneurship off and on since I was a kid, but couldn't achieve career success and financial independence. Poorest ever in my 50's. I actually thrived best as a kid who worked by going door to door and tending a half acre garden with jet black rich soil for that was so happening 40 years ago. The cost of living was so low with many things almost free and even house montage or rent was only $100 a month. We also had wild fish and game we harvested instead of eating in restaurants and out of Walmart and Kroger. I find myself getting poorer as I age for the inflation is too much while opportunity decreases. The problem I had as a kid often coming home with a pocket full of cash was my brother stole it every time and I didn't bank nor now about finance yet. Most kids can't bank until they're 18 unless via their parents account for juveniles can't enter contracts and do business like adults.
The reason I'm not gonna have kids (I'm 29) is because I will financially cripple myself and I'll be forced to spin the hamster wheel for another 20 years or so and not have much money left over. Also, it's not guaranteed that my kid would even want to take care of me as I get older, I don't control their wants and dreams. Also, the kid will have a much, MUCH harder life than I do, and I don't have the easiest life. I've been taking care of my mother for 15 years now, been taking care of her food, her bathroom business and other hygiene etc. I also go to a 9-5 to work for pay that is in a decade-deep wage pit due to inflation in my country.
I will work until I have enough to sustain my utility bills for the rest of my life and I will attempt to be self-reliant and self-sufficient with my food and health. I find that's one of the few ways I feel some sort of purpose and pride in this life - trying to survive on my own. I was birthed in order to take care of my parents and I will do that - for a small amount of money in return. That small amount of money I get for helping my mother plus my wages is just enough to retire in 10-12 years - when I'm around 40. That's extremely good in this economy, but I'm also giving all I've got to achieve it.
My father's retirement age is 65. My retirement age is 70. My kid's would be around 75 I assume. All I've got to say, take control of your life, don't work as a slave, work for yourself and your partner if you have one, and spend more time dedicating your free time to fulfilling activities, like passion projects etc. That's the way to contentment and happiness, at least for myself.
as a black guy I wish i wasnt even born
I love black guys. They're cool as fuck. I'm a white guy, BTW.
@@josebro352 lol you dont be honest about it,,black people are now waking up to the fact the only way to fight racism is to stop giving birth to future black people to continue the cycle of suffering
Same i wish i was never born
Try being Arabic.