"Not everyone should be in a relationship." Thank you for that. I realized in my 60's that I do better on my own. I am healing from a lifetime of unhealthy relationships. I see now how my intrinsic codependency affects all of my interactions with people. How do I stop?
I'm only in my mid 30s right now and I can relate to your comment. Sometimes I feel a bit selfish and even lonely but those feelings fade and I genuinely have a certain peace/solace by being alone. I would love to have someone I can trust and love me unconditionally but the older I get the more comfortable I am being single. Even though I'm half your age the best advice I can give is to love yourself and always put God first. (Not sure what your beliefs are but this was not intended to offend)
@bane8257 To love yourself, take care of your mind, body, and soul. Find a purpose in helping others, not to where it would turn into co-dependency or toxic but helping others in life and not on an intimate/personal relationship level. Understand that people are going to disappoint you sometimes and hurt people hurt people. Know when to remove yourself from a situation that is having a negative impact on your mental health!
YEAH....I DONT SUGAR COAT THINGS & PEOPLE DONT KNOW HOW TO TAKE THE TRUTH. THEY WOULD RATHER HAVE FAKE PEOPLE & THINGS THAT THEY SAY ( THEY WOULD RATHER IT BE FAKE ALSO & NOT THE TRUTH ) . MANY PEOPLE CANT HANDLE THE TRUTH. WHAT A F%CKED UP WORLD WE IN !!!!
Mark, I hope for the same. I have a friend there on Kagawa St. House is gone 😢 Hope you're doing ok, 2 of my family members houses are gone in Altadena. Truly a sad thing we're all going through. Perhaps with time you can interview some of the affected people.
He's also one of the few professionals, so kinda disproportionate to compare between him and most guests (addicts, people less articulated and trained in the art of speaking).
As someone who grew up on a farm, loved it and had no interest in ever living a city life, my definition of a “successful man” seems to differ from most women. I actually find it very unattractive when a man can just pay for something vs having the skill to do it himself. My definition of a successful man is someone who has learned a variety of skills and is able to really tackle anything and just figure it out, nothing more attractive than a guy who can fix anything and has a lot of try. Someone who wants to provide attention and asks how he can best support you is so much better than someone who wants to just work all the time and make loads of money. But I get we are all a little different in what we want.
SAME! ….and I don’t fit his yucky thinking on ‘beautiful women’’, about having things handed to me on a silver platter. F that. There’s a lot of hard work that needs to be done on a farm and makes you a practical woman. My Dad didn’t let us slack off AND WE DIDN'T WANT TO EITHER. We were a part of the success and we shared in that success together. I don’t expect men to really understand the female experience, so I forgive his best guesses on ‘’women’’. I’m really put off by men who don’t know how to do stuff, don’t have skills. I often know more than tgey do, and they lost interest because of that. I’d expect that because of the man’s need to be the leader, it just doesn’t make it easy for me to find a suitable partner. That’s skill set is a solid resource more so than some CEO who weaseled his way to the top, he can easily be fired too. What then? Money is a resource, but having the skills and health IS REAL RESOURCE. You might be rich but you can’t eat money.
And something they just said really hit home for me. Getting in a relationship is not going to make you happy. If you're not happy in your life and happy with who you are and what's going on then you're just going to make somebody else miserable or you're going to find somebody else that's miserable and then you're both really going to go off the deep end.
I learned this early on but it was easy for me because I'm an only child and was always a loner anyways. Watching my friends follow their attractions and then watching them crumble.. I realized you have to be happy alone before adding someone to your life . But trying to find someone who's in it for the same reasons is hard, because when you first meet someone both parties offer their best selves for the first little while until the masks fall off .. if you can go six months without seeing the person change into a jerk you might be on to something
He was better on here, than on a lot of his YT videos. I know someone has to put common sense down into words, but come off really trite in many of his YT vids. He was way better when he was being more candid with Mark.
Wow. A lot to chew on. One of the sharper tools in the shed. This is what the www is supposed to be, open access to human experience and knowledge. Mark, you are a blessing to humanity.
I learned and heard a long a long time ago from male and female friends..I know someone you would really like to meet, you have so much in common. The man says, what does she look like? The woman says what does he do? Thank you Orion!
for me itd have to be Arrogance, or rather their personalities. people look pretty on the outside but ugly on the inside. you know how it is Men talking shyt bragging they more money than other men and faster. and women who are pretty just think that they can misbehave and act bad and think theyre the shyt. like that type of characteristic trait. where you are not humble and just full of pride. those the type of people that cant even feel what we say when i say. the world does not revolve around you. and that all they care about and focus on is Bullshyt. shyt that doesn’t really fkn matter. materialistic shyt. they envy the opposite sex. they dont have an understanding to things. they play the game by their own rules. and thats not how it is cause you cant control everything even if youd like to. you cant. so just remain humble. cause the tables can turn on u. people that have BIg Enormous Fkn Egos. give me a break. brainwashed Game Driven Bullshyt. Day in day out. everybody wanna get rich and fast. they sellout. i could never do that. i think its immature to act or behave like you’re some hot shyt ppl cant fuck with cause they aint on ur level. but what more matters more tome is morals good morals. call me old fashioned but oldies are forever.
My dad rarely spends 100 dollars a year on us, his wife included. Hear him lying all the time, I can never say anything though cause of his time in the Military and how he thinks and acts.
Not everyone should be in a relationship. Nothing more true. Not everyone should have children just because they're both fertile. Damaged people (not judging), should spare others the pain that they can't fix within themselves.
The problem is that most don't realize they shouldn't be parents or shouldn't be in relationships until they've done major damage to someone else. Trial & error you learn through messing up.
@@lorenzrosenthal119 no offense, but as a Christian, this is the worst response. Sure we live in a fallen world but I don't think God intended for abusive people to procreate
Wow!! I have been a critic of yours Dr Taraban because of your views on men and women. I loved what you said about suffering. It’s kind of been said before but you have articulated it so very well. Don’t fight it. Don’t make it worse!! I’ve learned this the hard way. If only people didn’t have to start from scratch as you say. You have a way that just might persuade people from reinventing the wheel. Thank you 🙏
So many people need to not only hear this interview but actually APPLY IT in their life.... including myself! Thank you fellas for some food for thought. ✌️
This is so insightful as a person who grew up in a war zone. Peace was never my comfort zone so I gravitate towards crazy nonsense! Thanks for this interview 🙏
I agree with everything Doctor Taraban is saying. Crazy people can't see the truth. I also agree with his statement that most people are only 8 or 10 years old regardless of what their driver's license says. Most people lack self awareness and accountability.... it's so sad.
Interesting. Decades ago I found myself looking at people through a filter I conjured up, as if they were 8 years old, and it gave me insight to their motivations, intentions, complexity, drives, fears, just so much more than if I put them on a pedestal as some learned sage. But I wasn't on the pedestal looking down, I considered myself to be 8 too. Then we'd click.
I so appreciate you both. I understand about pain so well. I got married when I was 17. I had a baby with special needs. The baby died. I became an alcoholic. I divorced after 18 years. I quit drinking and smoking. I made mistakes over and over in sobriety until I learned how to stop the pain. I've been sober for 19 years. I was single for 12 years. I've been married now for 7 years. It was very painful but I'm grateful for the education. My life is good. I've learned so much.
Being able to be metaphorical, philosophical and also straight up authentically talking to your friends vulgar is something I myself tend to use to keep concepts cemented. It's a blast to hear it better used than I do... For the moment! What I'm saying is the communication style is aspirational. Much appreciated
Through my divorce after a long term marriage I found that age doesn't equal wisdom. Older men don't know more than younger men. Sometimes they are more damaged because of life's circumstances. Men and women alike. Embracing someone's damage and loving them anyway is a beautiful thing. Helps to heal. I don't think anyone comes out of life unscathed.
💯 As a young man, I recall feeling like one day I'd suddenly understand what was wrong with me as to why so many men around me came across so unwise in my eyes- while being seemingly functional adults paying bills and doing their taxes etc.... Suddenly I'm a man and I'm being slowly pushed into positions where older men would be under my authority. I kinda hate it, and I almost always reject those roles for more than just that one reason. It's so unexpected (and excruciatingly tragic to me anyway) that wisdom can halt for 20 or 30 or more years- for men and women alike
I've been with my wife for 10 years. We've been married for 6 years. My life's not an addict. I have been in recovery from drinking for a year before I ever started trying to date anybody. And she was not the first person I met. I dated like three other women were wet on dates with three other women I guess and because I had been sober for a year I wasn't looking for a crutch. I was looking for a relationship and I could immediately say that the other women that I went on dates with were clearly still trying to figure out who they were and what they were going to be. I already knew. I was a fisherman. I just needed to quit drinking. Once I did I was fine. Like I knew what I wanted out of life and I knew what it where I wanted to be. And when I met my wife for the first time we just clicked like we had talked beforehand online. But like when we actually met in person that first night. We spent 7 hours together because I think for the first time neither one of us was trying to satisfy anybody else in the relationship. We were just completely being ourselves and like letting each other know everything about us. Even the bad stuff. I actually farted when we were walking to a restaurant to get dessert. This was like 4 hours into it and she just laughed and said she was happy that didn't happen the first half hour but now it didn't matter 😂 The biggest thing I've gotten or figured out that is a variety is you know the Golden rule stands from treat people the way you want to be treated. No matter what the situation. That doesn't always mean that you're going to be treated well in return. But you deal. Cuz you know you did your best. And when you put those good things out in the universe and you treat other people well and with respect and you treat yourself well and with respect other people notice. I don't know if people just gravitate towards folks like that and that's why it seems to be easier. But I can tell you the things have gotten better and easier for me every year since I quit drinking
I am part of the 5% that lives not trying to get a woman. My life is about being a better person for my son. My son is my world, and no woman can be in between or even take my time and attention.
So grateful for this conversation. I have always admired both of you for being so authentic. Keep up your great mission! I know it gets rough sometimes.
Fascinating conversation and I’m surprised at how much sense he is making being a therapist,lol. Personally I never had the pleasure of encountering one that spoke specifically through years of observations and personal introspection. Thank you for having Orion as your guest, I enjoyed listening in.👍💕
Mark, you were the first person I thought about on Tuesday when I heard about the Pacific Palisades fire. I'm so heartbroken for your community.😔 💔 Your work ethic and determination are unmatched. As you experience such devastation due to the fires, you're still presenting content for the world to see.Thank you for all that you! Please stay safe!
I am mostly honest. I can't say I never lie, I try not to ever. I'm single, lost most of my family, and only have a couple "friends" left. Honesty will make you feel better internally but will also make you feel very lonely.
I am not saying this is you, but there is definitely a difference between being honest and unnecessarily hurtful and also understanding the difference between "my truth" and "THE truth". I have found that many people who claim to be honest who have few or no friends use "honesty" almost as a badge of honor that is closer to a sword, as opposed to those who are honest but also have emotional intelligence and are careful and with considered with what they say and how they say it. I would consider myself an honest person - as being truthful is my default position, however, when I was younger I hurt people with "my truth" an aftereffect that I was also deeply hurt by, so I worked hard to be more decerning and more careful in my delivery. People now seek me out for my "between-the-eyes" take on life and my friends feel safe around me as they know I will say what I feel; they also know that I will do my absolute best to deliver my point of view with as much tact, sensitivity and care as I can muster. That takes practice and it comes from a deep understanding that my truth may not be the whole truth and is often just a delivery of my own insight and understanding, however deep or limited it may be.
Mark, if you ever see this comment, thank you for the incredible work you and your team do on this channel. Hope you are safe and well from the So Cal fires. I may not always agree with Orion, but he is refreshingly insightful. I hope to see Orion and James Sexton on another video together. Their first video was incredible.
One of my favorite interview guests. People either don't want to or don't know how to engage in self-reflection... What you want and what you need are two very different things.
Love is the *emotional reaction* to the things you do *every day* for those you care about... If you stop doing those things just don't act shocked if the emotional reaction fades away. If you believe your mere presence in this world is enough to elicit the love of others be prepared for crushing disappointment. Maintaining love is work, but it is the best kind of work; the most rewarding kind. The dividends it pays are priceless.
@@kittendkat5100 thats because you dont understand love has 2 different kinds. Love as emotion and love as action. Love as an emotion is a reaction, not a choice. Love as an action is a choice.
@@kittendkat5100 also unconditional love doesnt exist. Everyone has a self preservation instinct. You can love someone as long as they arent a threat to your well being or survival. There are many different feelings that seem like love but arent. Admiration. Desire. Arousal. Intimacy. Pleasure. Joy. Care. Emotional attatchment. The only type of love thats potentially unconditional is care. You can care for others and want and hope good for them as an act of your will and a sense of benevolence but everyone has their line of how much they are willing to sacrifice of themselves for the good of another. You can care for everyone, every human being but the level of sacrifice for their well being also varies based on the heirarchy of the type of relationship you have with them.
I get it, no one completely understands women or human behavior fully. However, the game is the game and if you don't understand that then you're incredibly naive
No, ..... not trying is nuts. Anyway, we all try it , give it a go. We all see to , come to, understand men in general and women in general. And we all are naturally quite good at it. Problem only arises when you get closer ... in a job , you cant just leave cause there is a difficult coworket. In a marriage you cant just leave cause the other one is complicated. So admit to yourself : i want this here .... and , hm, how far am i willing to go, to take this, including the so called problems. You can quit, walk out. Life goes on. Dont blame the other sex on a grand scale. Your last partner was just one specimen. Better yourself, move on, eyes wide open, under stand your borders, meet new people. Dont complain.
Oh this is superb wisdom...(around 40mins), how Orion grapples with these fundamental issues and explains them in such pragmatic and forthright words. Totally resonates. Thankyou Mark.
Nobody asked but I’m 23 and I’ve never been in a relationship before. Orion makes an excellent point in empathizing healing before relationship building. I’ve dealt with a lot of anxiety and depression over the years. I’ve felt unworthy of romantic love my entire life. When I think of the kind of boyfriend I would have been if I had started dating in high school or college it scares me. At the time I felt completely ready to date, hell it was all I think about. But looking back at my mental state I failed to realize just how unprepared I would have been. I had no self esteem, I felt I needed a woman to love me before I could love myself. That never happened, so instead I was forced to cultivate that on my own. And I’m glad that’s how it turned out. If I had been in a relationship I probably would have made my partner miserable and in turn make myself miserable too.
As a mom who has lost two daughters, both 21, I can only say wow! This is pure gold. The person who can make analogies and metaphors is a psychological artist. Pain is subjective. I call this Earth college. If you quit too soon, the entire semester needs to be repeated. On a side note, as a developing adolescent, I thought it was cool how many grown azz men were about my attention. Now looking back, it's just plain creepy. Cheers everyone!❤❤
I do not mean to beat nosey, but I am shocked, heartbroken, and confused. Are you saying that you had two daughters pass away at the age of 21??? Do you mind saying what happened? I can't imagine your pain. I am so very sorry IF this is what has happened to you. 💔❤️🩹😞🥺🥹😢🙏🙏
@Kim-oo9vv sadly, yes. Both my daughters died at age 21. They were born 3 yrs apart and died 3 yrs apart. My oldest we just had the 10th anniversary of the day she was shot and killed yesterday actually. Her sister had a tooth pulled and developed dry socket. She was in a lot of pain and the dentist did not want to give her pain medicine. So, a "friend" offered her what she thought was a pill she had taken from her MD. That proved fatal. The coroner told me she was tricked and poisoned by fentanyl. I miss them terribly and I cry almost every day. However, I feel when they are nearby. Losing my husband to cancer after made life really awful for a bit. All I can do is keep breathing deeply and welcome them when I know they are around .
Something that's rarely talked about in regards to attraction.....women often choose partners that will give them what they seek in life. But also there are women who choose a partner based on lust. Women can feel very lustful based on physical attraction just as much as men. When that lust wanes, it can be hard to rekindle. And if there are no other benefits achieved, the relationship is doomed.
Women have a dualistic attraction as opposed to men who are either sexually attracted or not sexually attracted to a woman. Women on the other hand have a general attraction where they look for things like competence, wealth, etc., which are attractive but not necessarily sexually arousing. But then they have sexual attraction due to physical appearance and often dark triad traits which give them emotional stimulation or ‘foreplay.’ This is due to the hypergamy instinct having two sides: resource provision (general attraction) and sexual desire (sexual attraction). The sexual desire side of hypergamy comes from the desire to mate with a man of superior genetic stock (physalis attraction is a sign of good genetic health). Most men don’t meet both of these criteria as it’s very rare. So often girls when they’re young prioritize one over the other and when they get older and want a family, tend to prioritize the other of the other one.
I so enjoy listening, learning & observing Orion Tarabans wisdom The 17 INTERRUPTED advertisements scattered throughout this enlightened conversation, not so much Thank you Mark for continually bringing back Orion Taraban. With high regards, Where WE Go One, WE Go ALL Universally Wide ❤️
I noticed in my 50 years you meet a potential partner when you least expect it. It's really up to you to want to create a relationship or just walk away. Sometimes they chase and I'm either running away for my sanity or checking out the situation because well she's cute and probably nuts for being interested in me
If people just understood that it is not "your looks" that maintains a relationship, but rather "how others feel around you" many relationships would be saved. If you treat others like crap, very few people will want to be around you - NO MATTER WHAT YOU LOOK LIKE. Very simple, but most don't get this in a society filled with plastic surgery ads and body building ads.
Well men already know women don't care about looks which is homosexual. Women however think their non existent looks is enough and swear they are beautiful and that she should be served and worshipped. They always shame men for looking good like we think we look so good that we can mistreat people and etc when that's how women act.
Orion is so spot on! I really appreciate what wisdom he has the guts to tell us and we can choose to decide for ourselves! I have been single and not dated in 30 years.
“Life is long and mysterious.” A gem of deep reflection among a bunch of stereotypical drivel about what men/women want, their attractability shelf lives, dating app type of mentality that does not reflect real life or soul matters.
@BobbyDigital6411 perhaps you're in the top 10% of men naturally and none of this is the rule for you. Or perhaps you are a mediocre woman and the same applies.
“People who need nothing from their partners, their relationships are most precarious.” I’m glad he said this taboo thing, because we are in a climate of hyper-independence, especially among the feminine energy, and one is looked down upon if in a co-dependent relationship. I will proclaim that while i need to be in total balance within myself first, it is not supposed to end there and there needs to be an outward emanation (a soul partner) of this inner harmony.
I never post comments, but I don't remember the time I've had such a positive reaction to seeing a new video upload. Literally yelled "YESS!!!" alone in my living room lmao. I didn't even watch yet and I know that this 1 hour will be nothing less than absolute gold content. Thanks Mark and Orion!
What he said at the end about being in the light is so true. Once you are walking on the path of light you don't want to go back to the path of darkness/pain.
I have been on alcohol meth and pills for the majority of my adult life..and now i have been done with that for almost a year of my life...ive tried to quit before...never worked...this is a new chapter...the drinking and dryg use is completely gone....learning how to operate on the other hand is still a work in progress...but just knowing that i don't have the distraction of trying to create a false reality to cope with a life of uncertainty and happiness makes it easier to apply and understand more about who i am and what im doing on the way to where im going
Thank you Mark. With his empirical view of this seeming basic question, has helped me understand things and potentially be less bitter about it as a whole. I’ve had most of these observations myself, but this gentleman was able to articulate and put it into a whole picture in one sitting. Amazing
I truly wish everyone could really hear his comments at the end about pain. Coming from my experience in the pharmaceutical and managed care industries, I can confidently say that one of the biggest and most damaging lies we're told is that our lives should be free from pain. None of us were ever promised that! Pain is a part of living! It's inevitable and if we can grit our teeth and bear it's (temporary) sting, there is so much to be learned about ourselves and what we're capable of! I feel like people being under the impression that they have the right to live life without experiencing pain is a major reason for the opiod epidemic. Listen to how many of them started down the path of addiction after being prescribed pain medicine for an injury. It's heartbreaking.
I had a similar conversation with a good Russian friend once from Moscow. We were having a conversation about the difference in mindset between the west and Russia and he pointed out how in the West we feel that we shouldn't be in any pain (physical or emotional) and so we dope ourselves up with painkillers and antidepressants but in Russia the mindset is that life IS miserable. The reward is dying and going to heaven, the afterlife, etc. But while we're here, we're supposed to be miserable and how we cope with it or endure it is what reveals our character and makes us strong.
Would *you* like to have surgery without getting any opioids then? Because that is what is happening to people. And it's the reason why a lot of people refuse to have surgery now.
I'm 31 years old and I'm at the stage off life where a lot of people I know are in long term relatonship and when I spend time with them I never find their union to be healthy. A few cases here and there yes but for the most time is almost a miserable expirence to be next to them. Yet it seems like for the most people that's the focal point off their lives.
I love listening to this Dr Taraban. He makes so much sense in what he says. Very well educated and I believe everything he says! Keep his number Mark!
Dr. Orion has nearly unparalleled balance in his talks. So insightful. He expands about topics with which most are generally familiar, but then he reaches under the surface and exposes the quiet parts (like how most of America's emotional quotient is on par with a 3rd grader) . I absorb new perspective each time-----like a fresh new seasoning added to a classic recipe.
The normal instinct for a horse out in the rain is to position its hindquarter towards the wind so the backside, which is the strongest part of the horse,will take the brunt of the rain storm. This protect s its eyes & head. In a field of horses, notice they will all stand in the rain in that position. Thought this might be an interesting fact since it was brought up as to what horses do in the rain. Another fact in observing a horse rolling on the ground a healthy horse will always shake his body once up from rolling if the horse is healthy. Sick horses don't shake robustly usually not shaking at all.
THIS MAN IS A TREASURE - I WISH I LIVED IN CA, I WOULD SEE HIM. I would LOVE to hear more from him Mark if you would interview him again and again. He's your BEST interview EVER. LOVED THIS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 💕💕💕💕💕💕💕💕💕💕💕💕💕💕
Are people really so shallow? I know men who have destroyed their lives by cheating. We make ourselves miserable by choosing mates based on looks and money. As a woman, I supported myself and found a man I truly loved for himself, not for his material wealth.
i know the street interviews pay the bills, but these interviews are so good because they show how we're all searching for the same things at every level.
In my experience he’s hitting the nail right on the head. I could be here all day explaining how much I used to simp over girls. I used to have the thinking to some extent that being in a relationship with a lady was going to solve many of my problems. Kinda like the saying “every great man has an even greater woman behind him”, not to mention everyone around me had one too so it seemed like it was just what I should be focused on. However after 12 years of being on my own with nothing but bad experiences in the realm of relationships before that, I’ve finally reached a place of genuine happiness within the last year or two of my life while being on my own and now the idea of allowing anyone in that would jeopardize that just repulses me further from the ideology that I once held onto. I hope I can be able to still find a connection out there but after hearing this confirm what I pretty much already knew and seeing many of the comments, I’m not exactly going to hold my breath on finding anything truly worthwhile. Anyways, great interview Mark with much food for thought. Hopefully some can take something away from it.
I feel like these guys are talking more for men in their generation, the younger generation of men are starting to care less about having a girlfriend or hooking up in general. i know quite a few guys who are successful and do not think the juice is worth the squeeze when it comes to dating or being in a relationship.
Caring won’t get you shit anyway. They like the ones that don’t care and I’m living proof of it. Have a 7 year relationship I’m in now, and all the romantic caring crapI’ve been doing has gotten nothing! Caring about myself and focusing on business while putting her last place, has bred the best results. Wish I would have known much sooner.
@@idenjames7717 You absolutely have to care if you want a long term relationship with women to work. Caring about each other TRULY is key. If you don't care you won't be able to truly work through any problems that arise in a long term relationship.
JFC I HOPE YOU’RE RIGHT. I really hope they finally leave women alone. You have no idea what it’s like trying to date in a world where a huge percentage of the men in the dating pool are very clearly angry and upset about even having to date. They go on dates already resentful. Then are bizarrely aggressive and terrifying and r*pey bc they’re like “well if I have to put up with dating I better be getting something out of it!” And we’re just here like OMFG YOU DIDNT HAVE TO DO THIS AT ALL.
Thank you Mark! This man is a genius so I’ve been trying to get into his own videos but I personally found it dry, almost lecture-like. However, with the help from your questioning… Orion has some incredible insight!
Orion is a legend and perfectly explains why it's such an absolute mess for so many people. He has meant a lot to me, and I suspect he played an important role in helping me break free from my toxic relationship. That said, as a small nuance, I think it would occasionally be nice if he placed a bit more focus on the 30-50 percent of people who *do* manage to build and maintain relatively normal relationships. I see them in my circle of friends too. Sure, in the long run, most women don’t want to have much sex anymore, but at least there’s enough respect and trust to keep things on track.
Helping someone that you see some sort of potential romantic connection in is toxic empathy. The red flag is a warning. When there’s multiple red flags and they’re planted in a minefield, then there’s danger. You’re just asking for it. The best way to avoid getting blown up in a minefield is to avoid the minefield altogether.
You can’t fix persons who have been traumatized. They must heal themselves. Unfortunately some never do. As my wife has become older her anxiety when it comes to being a passenger in a car has become so stressful that physical symptoms appear. I rarely drive when we're together in a car. She always drives when we're together, she feels safe and in control, ( I've been a professional driver in public transit for over 30 years) I've discovered that when she was a child her mother reacted the same way when her dad drove and now she seems to mimic her mothers past action. So either she drives or we go separate in two cars. Her strong anxiety trumps any argument I may present. So I let her drive. As for me, it took over30 years to get over my father's death who passed in front of me when I was 24 years old. But I don't think I let it affect anyone but me.
I agree with him that some people aren't meant for or ready for relationships. I also agree that people go into relationships with the idea of molding others into what they want instead of just accepting them for who they are. I'm one of those "relationships aren't for me." this isn't because I am not good at relationships; I don't try to change people and I accept people for who they are. I'm not meant for relationships for many reasons, some of which include the following: I value my independence over nearly everything, I don't like that relationships often become parental where one party is telling and controlling the other, I don't like that people try to change me, I value my alone time. I am genuinely happy to live alone and not date at all; I'm not sure why that is so hard for people to believe when over 50% of marriages fail, and rarely are people happy in their marriages. Sometimes, I feel like people want me to be as miserable as they are, so they are trying to push a relationship onto me. The problem is society and their need to push others into relationships. There is so much pressure for it, and we can't seem to be able to accept people for the choices they make for their lives to be best for them. I can not tell you how often it happens that I tell people I am single by choice and not looking to change that the response I get back is "Oh, you just haven't found the right person yet." I'm like did you not just hear what I said? I am not even looking or wanting it, so no, I haven't found the right person because I don't want the right person I want to be alone. I'm not an addict, I don't commit crimes, I don't bother people, I don't intrude upon the lives of others, I don't create chaos, so just let me live my life the way I want to live it and accept it. Like why do people care if I am single? They aren't paying my bills, doing my job, or taking care of me in any way, so just let me be single.
"Not everyone should be in a relationship." Thank you for that. I realized in my 60's that I do better on my own. I am healing from a lifetime of unhealthy relationships. I see now how my intrinsic codependency affects all of my interactions with people. How do I stop?
I'm only in my mid 30s right now and I can relate to your comment. Sometimes I feel a bit selfish and even lonely but those feelings fade and I genuinely have a certain peace/solace by being alone. I would love to have someone I can trust and love me unconditionally but the older I get the more comfortable I am being single.
Even though I'm half your age the best advice I can give is to love yourself and always put God first. (Not sure what your beliefs are but this was not intended to offend)
I just turned 26 and feel the same exact way
@@createmorecontent What advice would you give us if you could not relate religion into your advice?
Many ways the answers r out there
@bane8257 To love yourself, take care of your mind, body, and soul. Find a purpose in helping others, not to where it would turn into co-dependency or toxic but helping others in life and not on an intimate/personal relationship level. Understand that people are going to disappoint you sometimes and hurt people hurt people. Know when to remove yourself from a situation that is having a negative impact on your mental health!
Honest people tend to stand alone.
And I’m ok with being alone ☺️😁
It feels that way, doesn’t it?
YEAH....I DONT SUGAR COAT THINGS & PEOPLE DONT KNOW HOW TO TAKE THE TRUTH. THEY WOULD RATHER HAVE FAKE PEOPLE & THINGS THAT THEY SAY ( THEY WOULD RATHER IT BE FAKE ALSO & NOT THE TRUTH ) . MANY PEOPLE CANT HANDLE THE TRUTH. WHAT A F%CKED UP WORLD WE IN !!!!
Better to be alone than have someone that is so wrong for you or just to fill a void
For sure!
Mark, I hope you're doing ok during these Palisades Fires. Thank you for all the hard work you do!
Yes! ❤I came here to make sure you’re okay. 👍🏼
@@a.marvellehoneyman4560 Is he there?
Evacuate and stay safe bro bro
@@Cazares-A I was thinking about that also today.
Mark, I hope for the same. I have a friend there on Kagawa St. House is gone 😢
Hope you're doing ok, 2 of my family members houses are gone in Altadena. Truly a sad thing we're all going through.
Perhaps with time you can interview some of the affected people.
One of my favorite guests. Him and the lawyer.
James Sexton - he is the BEST
He has quickly become one of my faves and I'm less than 10 mins in. Can't wait to watch other interviews with Orion!
He's also one of the few professionals, so kinda disproportionate to compare between him and most guests (addicts, people less articulated and trained in the art of speaking).
Same here
The lawyer 💯 😅
As someone who grew up on a farm, loved it and had no interest in ever living a city life, my definition of a “successful man” seems to differ from most women. I actually find it very unattractive when a man can just pay for something vs having the skill to do it himself. My definition of a successful man is someone who has learned a variety of skills and is able to really tackle anything and just figure it out, nothing more attractive than a guy who can fix anything and has a lot of try. Someone who wants to provide attention and asks how he can best support you is so much better than someone who wants to just work all the time and make loads of money. But I get we are all a little different in what we want.
Agreed 👍 Handy men are Hawt 😁
Farmers have a different intelligence. They have the patience to evaluate. Side effect is quiet confidence and known resilience IMO
SAME! ….and I don’t fit his yucky thinking on ‘beautiful women’’, about having things handed to me on a silver platter. F that. There’s a lot of hard work that needs to be done on a farm and makes you a practical woman. My Dad didn’t let us slack off AND WE DIDN'T WANT TO EITHER. We were a part of the success and we shared in that success together. I don’t expect men to really understand the female experience, so I forgive his best guesses on ‘’women’’.
I’m really put off by men who don’t know how to do stuff, don’t have skills. I often know more than tgey do, and they lost interest because of that. I’d expect that because of the man’s need to be the leader, it just doesn’t make it easy for me to find a suitable partner. That’s skill set is a solid resource more so than some CEO who weaseled his way to the top, he can easily be fired too. What then?
Money is a resource, but having the skills and health IS REAL RESOURCE. You might be rich but you can’t eat money.
Nobody cares
Ma’am are you single?
And something they just said really hit home for me. Getting in a relationship is not going to make you happy. If you're not happy in your life and happy with who you are and what's going on then you're just going to make somebody else miserable or you're going to find somebody else that's miserable and then you're both really going to go off the deep end.
Did that one. Least the lesson got learned even if its the hard way. Having people in your life as guides or mentors really helps a lot.
Absolutely 💯
Generalizing AF
I learned this early on but it was easy for me because I'm an only child and was always a loner anyways. Watching my friends follow their attractions and then watching them crumble.. I realized you have to be happy alone before adding someone to your life . But trying to find someone who's in it for the same reasons is hard, because when you first meet someone both parties offer their best selves for the first little while until the masks fall off .. if you can go six months without seeing the person change into a jerk you might be on to something
This is a modern way of thinking which is false. Remember the song from our parents generation "you're nobody till somebody loves you".
We are over analyzing ourselves to the point of misery.
Simple, elegant, and on point.
Nice comment.
yeah but we need to start learning about ourselves and improve it or live with it 😂
Also affirming trivial events as trauma and encouraging victimization over strength of character and forward movement.
It’s still a real mess out here to the point of population collapse
@@beastmode6609 Staring at your navel just increases your chances of walking into an open manhole cover.
He articulates himself so well. Really enjoyed this guest.
lol
He was better on here, than on a lot of his YT videos.
I know someone has to put common sense down into words, but come off really trite in many of his YT vids. He was way better when he was being more candid with Mark.
Well, aren't you easily manipulated by nice sounding words. They can be a disguise and are the currency of politicians and other tyrants.
Yes, I've never been so moved by fart and plumber analogies.
@@feedusafetus2903 funny!
Wow. A lot to chew on. One of the sharper tools in the shed. This is what the www is supposed to be, open access to human experience and knowledge. Mark, you are a blessing to humanity.
I learned and heard a long a long time ago from male and female friends..I know someone you would really like to meet, you have so much in common. The man says, what does she look like? The woman says what does he do?
Thank you Orion!
The most absolute deal breaker is a liar. Lying is probably the most common denominator to everything else that a normal person will despise.
Deception 👍
but EVERYONE lies
@@joefresh3725 even if only through self deception
for me itd have to be Arrogance, or rather their personalities. people look pretty on the outside but ugly on the inside. you know how it is Men talking shyt bragging they more money than other men and faster. and women who are pretty just think that they can misbehave and act bad and think theyre the shyt. like that type of characteristic trait. where you are not humble and just full of pride. those the type of people that cant even feel what we say when i say. the world does not revolve around you. and that all they care about and focus on is Bullshyt. shyt that doesn’t really fkn matter. materialistic shyt. they envy the opposite sex. they dont have an understanding to things. they play the game by their own rules. and thats not how it is cause you cant control everything even if youd like to. you cant. so just remain humble. cause the tables can turn on u. people that have BIg Enormous Fkn Egos. give me a break. brainwashed Game Driven Bullshyt. Day in day out. everybody wanna get rich and fast. they sellout. i could never do that. i think its immature to act or behave like you’re some hot shyt ppl cant fuck with cause they aint on ur level. but what more matters more tome is morals good morals. call me old fashioned but oldies are forever.
My dad rarely spends 100 dollars a year on us, his wife included. Hear him lying all the time, I can never say anything though cause of his time in the Military and how he thinks and acts.
This guy's "Fuck No" kills me every time. Straight dopamine
😂😂😂
Haha
Not everyone should be in a relationship. Nothing more true.
Not everyone should have children just because they're both fertile.
Damaged people (not judging), should spare others the pain that they can't fix within themselves.
Your ancestor lineage would've died out long time ago if this was the case.
God's ways are not fathomable by our small brain.
The problem is that most don't realize they shouldn't be parents or shouldn't be in relationships until they've done major damage to someone else. Trial & error you learn through messing up.
@@lorenzrosenthal119 no offense, but as a Christian, this is the worst response. Sure we live in a fallen world but I don't think God intended for abusive people to procreate
Boy! You’re absolutely spot on! Wish I knew this before I married 46 years ago!
Its not gods way smh. What about all the school shootings and parents eating their kids futures. Why aren't you thanking him smh. @lorenzrosenthal119
Wow!! I have been a critic of yours Dr Taraban because of your views on men and women. I loved what you said about suffering. It’s kind of been said before but you have articulated it so very well. Don’t fight it. Don’t make it worse!! I’ve learned this the hard way. If only people didn’t have to start from scratch as you say. You have a way that just might persuade people from reinventing the wheel. Thank you 🙏
So many people need to not only hear this interview but actually APPLY IT in their life.... including myself!
Thank you fellas for some food for thought. ✌️
Orion looking more poised and professional than ever... happy to see you thrive brother! Just bought you book, looking forward to reading it 🕊
Mark, thank you for your work ! Stay safe out there. Prayers to Cali and all affected 🥲🔥🫶🏼💕
This is so insightful as a person who grew up in a war zone. Peace was never my comfort zone so I gravitate towards crazy nonsense! Thanks for this interview 🙏
Thank you for gracing us again with your light of knowledge ❤
Mark, please have Orion back at least once a month
this interview made me happier and more relaxed with my imperfections and insecurities
I agree with everything Doctor Taraban is saying.
Crazy people can't see the truth.
I also agree with his statement that most people are only 8 or 10 years old regardless of what their driver's license says.
Most people lack self awareness and accountability.... it's so sad.
Except you?
@justinhartnell6779 Everybody has a child in them but as adults we have to be responsible for our actions.
Most never bother to do any interpersonal work
Breed more smart, make less stupid.
Interesting. Decades ago I found myself looking at people through a filter I conjured up, as if they were 8 years old, and it gave me insight to their motivations, intentions, complexity, drives, fears, just so much more than if I put them on a pedestal as some learned sage. But I wasn't on the pedestal looking down, I considered myself to be 8 too. Then we'd click.
I so appreciate you both. I understand about pain so well. I got married when I was 17. I had a baby with special needs. The baby died. I became an alcoholic. I divorced after 18 years. I quit drinking and smoking. I made mistakes over and over in sobriety until I learned how to stop the pain. I've been sober for 19 years. I was single for 12 years. I've been married now for 7 years. It was very painful but I'm grateful for the education. My life is good. I've learned so much.
This was my favorite Orion visit so far. Great conversation and metaphors today. Thank you mark and Orion.
Being able to be metaphorical, philosophical and also straight up authentically talking to your friends vulgar is something I myself tend to use to keep concepts cemented. It's a blast to hear it better used than I do... For the moment!
What I'm saying is the communication style is aspirational. Much appreciated
Through my divorce after a long term marriage I found that age doesn't equal wisdom. Older men don't know more than younger men. Sometimes they are more damaged because of life's circumstances. Men and women alike. Embracing someone's damage and loving them anyway is a beautiful thing. Helps to heal. I don't think anyone comes out of life unscathed.
💯 As a young man, I recall feeling like one day I'd suddenly understand what was wrong with me as to why so many men around me came across so unwise in my eyes- while being seemingly functional adults paying bills and doing their taxes etc....
Suddenly I'm a man and I'm being slowly pushed into positions where older men would be under my authority. I kinda hate it, and I almost always reject those roles for more than just that one reason. It's so unexpected (and excruciatingly tragic to me anyway) that wisdom can halt for 20 or 30 or more years- for men and women alike
Plenty of old fools, too.
No wonder you're divorced.
That most annoying thing is a thirsty, older man
Very well said.
I've been with my wife for 10 years. We've been married for 6 years. My life's not an addict. I have been in recovery from drinking for a year before I ever started trying to date anybody. And she was not the first person I met. I dated like three other women were wet on dates with three other women I guess and because I had been sober for a year I wasn't looking for a crutch. I was looking for a relationship and I could immediately say that the other women that I went on dates with were clearly still trying to figure out who they were and what they were going to be. I already knew. I was a fisherman. I just needed to quit drinking. Once I did I was fine. Like I knew what I wanted out of life and I knew what it where I wanted to be. And when I met my wife for the first time we just clicked like we had talked beforehand online. But like when we actually met in person that first night. We spent 7 hours together because I think for the first time neither one of us was trying to satisfy anybody else in the relationship. We were just completely being ourselves and like letting each other know everything about us. Even the bad stuff. I actually farted when we were walking to a restaurant to get dessert. This was like 4 hours into it and she just laughed and said she was happy that didn't happen the first half hour but now it didn't matter 😂 The biggest thing I've gotten or figured out that is a variety is you know the Golden rule stands from treat people the way you want to be treated. No matter what the situation. That doesn't always mean that you're going to be treated well in return. But you deal. Cuz you know you did your best. And when you put those good things out in the universe and you treat other people well and with respect and you treat yourself well and with respect other people notice. I don't know if people just gravitate towards folks like that and that's why it seems to be easier. But I can tell you the things have gotten better and easier for me every year since I quit drinking
Thank you.
Great advice
Well done, I am so glad that your life is working out for you now.
I am part of the 5% that lives not trying to get a woman. My life is about being a better person for my son. My son is my world, and no woman can be in between or even take my time and attention.
How’d you end up with a son then?
The plumber metaphor was spot on! Great Interview!
My #1 favorite guest you bring. He is brilliant.
"Romance doesn't make people happy..." Thanks for that.
Sure it does. Poorly matched relationships that pass for "romance" don't make people happy.
So grateful for this conversation. I have always admired both of you for being so authentic. Keep up your great mission! I know it gets rough sometimes.
Best advice: have realistic expectations. Don't expect your partner to be perfect, because you sure as hell aren't.
Fascinating conversation and I’m surprised at how much sense he is making being a therapist,lol. Personally I never had the pleasure of encountering one that spoke specifically through years of observations and personal introspection. Thank you for having Orion as your guest, I enjoyed listening in.👍💕
Mark, you were the first person I thought about on Tuesday when I heard about the Pacific Palisades fire. I'm so heartbroken for your community.😔 💔 Your work ethic and determination are unmatched. As you experience such devastation due to the fires, you're still presenting content for the world to see.Thank you for all that you! Please stay safe!
I am mostly honest. I can't say I never lie, I try not to ever.
I'm single, lost most of my family, and only have a couple "friends" left.
Honesty will make you feel better internally but will also make you feel very lonely.
It is definitely hard. But worth it.
I am not saying this is you, but there is definitely a difference between being honest and unnecessarily hurtful and also understanding the difference between "my truth" and "THE truth". I have found that many people who claim to be honest who have few or no friends use "honesty" almost as a badge of honor that is closer to a sword, as opposed to those who are honest but also have emotional intelligence and are careful and with considered with what they say and how they say it. I would consider myself an honest person - as being truthful is my default position, however, when I was younger I hurt people with "my truth" an aftereffect that I was also deeply hurt by, so I worked hard to be more decerning and more careful in my delivery. People now seek me out for my "between-the-eyes" take on life and my friends feel safe around me as they know I will say what I feel; they also know that I will do my absolute best to deliver my point of view with as much tact, sensitivity and care as I can muster. That takes practice and it comes from a deep understanding that my truth may not be the whole truth and is often just a delivery of my own insight and understanding, however deep or limited it may be.
Many of Orion’s talks are severely overlooked. The last 5 min of this interview is pure gold. He is something else. Thank you Mark
Mark, if you ever see this comment, thank you for the incredible work you and your team do on this channel. Hope you are safe and well from the So Cal fires.
I may not always agree with Orion, but he is refreshingly insightful.
I hope to see Orion and James Sexton on another video together. Their first video was incredible.
I love this guy - very eloquent, disarmingly fresh ideas and pretty cute to boot
This one was really good. Really makes you analyze life on a deeper level.
When he said some people need to heal before they jump into a relationship 🎯 That would definitely prevent inflicting wounds on others.
Love it when you have Orion on. Great guest! Also, bring back James Sexton!
One of my favorite interview guests. People either don't want to or don't know how to engage in self-reflection... What you want and what you need are two very different things.
What a great interview. Please have him back again!
Love is the *emotional reaction* to the things you do *every day* for those you care about...
If you stop doing those things just don't act shocked if the emotional reaction fades away.
If you believe your mere presence in this world is enough to elicit the love of others be prepared for crushing disappointment.
Maintaining love is work, but it is the best kind of work; the most rewarding kind. The dividends it pays are priceless.
Bingo bingo bingo!!! You got it!
This sounds like love with conditions as opposed to being unconditional, an "I'll scratch your back if you scratch mine" type of thing.
@@kittendkat5100 thats because you dont understand love has 2 different kinds. Love as emotion and love as action. Love as an emotion is a reaction, not a choice. Love as an action is a choice.
@@kittendkat5100 also unconditional love doesnt exist. Everyone has a self preservation instinct. You can love someone as long as they arent a threat to your well being or survival. There are many different feelings that seem like love but arent.
Admiration. Desire. Arousal. Intimacy. Pleasure. Joy. Care. Emotional attatchment. The only type of love thats potentially unconditional is care. You can care for others and want and hope good for them as an act of your will and a sense of benevolence but everyone has their line of how much they are willing to sacrifice of themselves for the good of another. You can care for everyone, every human being but the level of sacrifice for their well being also varies based on the heirarchy of the type of relationship you have with them.
Great interview here!
His book was phenomenal gave me lots of insight on dating in modern world. Thank you for another great video!
I love this unstructured conversation. So much life and variety all over the board of topics. Keep it up!
😁😆😅🤣😂 My husband was cracking up over this show. He's a hoot. He said ,"ANY man who thinks he understands women is nuts."
😂
I get it, no one completely understands women or human behavior fully. However, the game is the game and if you don't understand that then you're incredibly naive
No, ..... not trying is nuts.
Anyway, we all try it , give it a go. We all see to , come to, understand men in general and women in general. And we all are naturally quite good at it.
Problem only arises when you get closer ... in a job , you cant just leave cause there is a difficult coworket. In a marriage you cant just leave cause the other one is complicated.
So admit to yourself : i want this here .... and , hm, how far am i willing to go, to take this, including the so called problems.
You can quit, walk out.
Life goes on.
Dont blame the other sex on a grand scale. Your last partner was just one specimen. Better yourself, move on, eyes wide open, under stand your borders, meet new people.
Dont complain.
Who gives a flying fuck what your husband says
Maybe your man is nuts. But then again, what is nuts?
Irrational? I think both genders are, in their own way. Like what he said in the video.
Oh this is superb wisdom...(around 40mins), how Orion grapples with these fundamental issues and explains them in such pragmatic and forthright words. Totally resonates. Thankyou Mark.
Nobody asked but I’m 23 and I’ve never been in a relationship before. Orion makes an excellent point in empathizing healing before relationship building. I’ve dealt with a lot of anxiety and depression over the years. I’ve felt unworthy of romantic love my entire life. When I think of the kind of boyfriend I would have been if I had started dating in high school or college it scares me. At the time I felt completely ready to date, hell it was all I think about. But looking back at my mental state I failed to realize just how unprepared I would have been. I had no self esteem, I felt I needed a woman to love me before I could love myself. That never happened, so instead I was forced to cultivate that on my own. And I’m glad that’s how it turned out. If I had been in a relationship I probably would have made my partner miserable and in turn make myself miserable too.
As a mom who has lost two daughters, both 21, I can only say wow! This is pure gold. The person who can make analogies and metaphors is a psychological artist. Pain is subjective. I call this Earth college. If you quit too soon, the entire semester needs to be repeated.
On a side note, as a developing adolescent, I thought it was cool how many grown azz men were about my attention. Now looking back, it's just plain creepy.
Cheers everyone!❤❤
I do not mean to beat nosey, but I am shocked, heartbroken, and confused.
Are you saying that you had two daughters pass away at the age of 21???
Do you mind saying what happened?
I can't imagine your pain.
I am so very sorry IF this is what has happened to you.
💔❤️🩹😞🥺🥹😢🙏🙏
@Kim-oo9vv sadly, yes. Both my daughters died at age 21. They were born 3 yrs apart and died 3 yrs apart. My oldest we just had the 10th anniversary of the day she was shot and killed yesterday actually. Her sister had a tooth pulled and developed dry socket. She was in a lot of pain and the dentist did not want to give her pain medicine. So, a "friend" offered her what she thought was a pill she had taken from her MD. That proved fatal. The coroner told me she was tricked and poisoned by fentanyl.
I miss them terribly and I cry almost every day. However, I feel when they are nearby. Losing my husband to cancer after made life really awful for a bit.
All I can do is keep breathing deeply and welcome them when I know they are around .
@@chasnfireflies317my gosh, you had it so tough. I’m sorry 🫂
Honest men congregate at home. Shunned for their honesty and inability to live under contented false pretense. They work hard and go home.
🎯 💯
Something that's rarely talked about in regards to attraction.....women often choose partners that will give them what they seek in life. But also there are women who choose a partner based on lust. Women can feel very lustful based on physical attraction just as much as men. When that lust wanes, it can be hard to rekindle. And if there are no other benefits achieved, the relationship is doomed.
Women have a dualistic attraction as opposed to men who are either sexually attracted or not sexually attracted to a woman.
Women on the other hand have a general attraction where they look for things like competence, wealth, etc., which are attractive but not necessarily sexually arousing.
But then they have sexual attraction due to physical appearance and often dark triad traits which give them emotional stimulation or ‘foreplay.’
This is due to the hypergamy instinct having two sides: resource provision (general attraction) and sexual desire (sexual attraction).
The sexual desire side of hypergamy comes from the desire to mate with a man of superior genetic stock (physalis attraction is a sign of good genetic health).
Most men don’t meet both of these criteria as it’s very rare. So often girls when they’re young prioritize one over the other and when they get older and want a family, tend to prioritize the other of the other one.
I won the Husband Lottery in 1983. We have been Happily married for 41 years and counting.
I love Orion as guest here... I hope you'll have him more often.
Most people shouldn't be in a relationship, even more shouldn't have children.
I so enjoy listening, learning & observing Orion Tarabans wisdom
The 17 INTERRUPTED advertisements scattered throughout this enlightened conversation, not so much
Thank you Mark for continually bringing back Orion Taraban.
With high regards,
Where WE Go One, WE Go ALL Universally Wide
❤️
I live for conversations like this. It causes you to think, reflect & change if need be all at once.
I’ve been listening to Orion for over seven months now. He has made a profound impact on my life-the guy is a genius!
I noticed in my 50 years you meet a potential partner when you least expect it. It's really up to you to want to create a relationship or just walk away. Sometimes they chase and I'm either running away for my sanity or checking out the situation because well she's cute and probably nuts for being interested in me
Thank you for the bunny analogy. That was really helpful! Fascinating interview Mark and extremely intoxicating-thank you.
If people just understood that it is not "your looks" that maintains a relationship, but rather "how others feel around you" many relationships would be saved. If you treat others like crap, very few people will want to be around you - NO MATTER WHAT YOU LOOK LIKE. Very simple, but most don't get this in a society filled with plastic surgery ads and body building ads.
Well men already know women don't care about looks which is homosexual. Women however think their non existent looks is enough and swear they are beautiful and that she should be served and worshipped. They always shame men for looking good like we think we look so good that we can mistreat people and etc when that's how women act.
Orion is so spot on! I really appreciate what wisdom he has the guts to tell us and we can choose to decide for ourselves! I have been single and not dated in 30 years.
“Life is long and mysterious.”
A gem of deep reflection among a bunch of stereotypical drivel about what men/women want, their attractability shelf lives, dating app type of mentality that does not reflect real life or soul matters.
You're absolutely wrong.
@@dannthenitroman Incorrect. You are wrong.
@BobbyDigital6411 perhaps you're in the top 10% of men naturally and none of this is the rule for you.
Or perhaps you are a mediocre woman and the same applies.
yea okay armchair psychologist, orion actually works with this stuff and you don't
Thanks Mark, for sharing Orion with us. He's got such a great view point. I hope your studio is OK in the fires.
“People who need nothing from their partners, their relationships are most precarious.” I’m glad he said this taboo thing, because we are in a climate of hyper-independence, especially among the feminine energy, and one is looked down upon if in a co-dependent relationship. I will proclaim that while i need to be in total balance within myself first, it is not supposed to end there and there needs to be an outward emanation (a soul partner) of this inner harmony.
My favorite interview. Thank you so much! To the both of you! Knowledge is power!
I never post comments, but I don't remember the time I've had such a positive reaction to seeing a new video upload. Literally yelled "YESS!!!" alone in my living room lmao. I didn't even watch yet and I know that this 1 hour will be nothing less than absolute gold content. Thanks Mark and Orion!
What he said at the end about being in the light is so true. Once you are walking on the path of light you don't want to go back to the path of darkness/pain.
Always a good insightful guest!
I enjoyed this interview so much. So much valuable information to take away! 👌🏾
I have been on alcohol meth and pills for the majority of my adult life..and now i have been done with that for almost a year of my life...ive tried to quit before...never worked...this is a new chapter...the drinking and dryg use is completely gone....learning how to operate on the other hand is still a work in progress...but just knowing that i don't have the distraction of trying to create a false reality to cope with a life of uncertainty and happiness makes it easier to apply and understand more about who i am and what im doing on the way to where im going
Kerry, that’s great to hear. ❤️
Thank you Mark. With his empirical view of this seeming basic question, has helped me understand things and potentially be less bitter about it as a whole. I’ve had most of these observations myself, but this gentleman was able to articulate and put it into a whole picture in one sitting. Amazing
I truly wish everyone could really hear his comments at the end about pain. Coming from my experience in the pharmaceutical and managed care industries, I can confidently say that one of the biggest and most damaging lies we're told is that our lives should be free from pain. None of us were ever promised that! Pain is a part of living! It's inevitable and if we can grit our teeth and bear it's (temporary) sting, there is so much to be learned about ourselves and what we're capable of! I feel like people being under the impression that they have the right to live life without experiencing pain is a major reason for the opiod epidemic. Listen to how many of them started down the path of addiction after being prescribed pain medicine for an injury. It's heartbreaking.
I had a similar conversation with a good Russian friend once from Moscow. We were having a conversation about the difference in mindset between the west and Russia and he pointed out how in the West we feel that we shouldn't be in any pain (physical or emotional) and so we dope ourselves up with painkillers and antidepressants but in Russia the mindset is that life IS miserable. The reward is dying and going to heaven, the afterlife, etc. But while we're here, we're supposed to be miserable and how we cope with it or endure it is what reveals our character and makes us strong.
Would *you* like to have surgery without getting any opioids then? Because that is what is happening to people. And it's the reason why a lot of people refuse to have surgery now.
I'm 31 years old and I'm at the stage off life where a lot of people I know are in long term relatonship and when I spend time with them I never find their union to be healthy. A few cases here and there yes but for the most time is almost a miserable expirence to be next to them. Yet it seems like for the most people that's the focal point off their lives.
I love Orion and his vocabulary! Thank you Mark!🎉
I love listening to this Dr Taraban. He makes so much sense in what he says. Very well educated and I believe everything he says! Keep his number Mark!
Dr. Orion has nearly unparalleled balance in his talks. So insightful. He expands about topics with which most are generally familiar, but then he reaches under the surface and exposes the quiet parts (like how most of America's emotional quotient is on par with a 3rd grader) . I absorb new perspective each time-----like a fresh new seasoning added to a classic recipe.
He is a bright thinker!
This is a fantastic interview. Thank you so much, Mark.
The normal instinct for a horse out in the rain is to position its hindquarter towards the wind so the backside, which is the strongest part of the horse,will take the brunt of the rain storm. This protect s its eyes & head. In a field of horses, notice they will all stand in the rain in that position. Thought this might be an interesting fact since it was brought up as to what horses do in the rain. Another fact in observing a horse rolling on the ground a healthy horse will always shake his body once up from rolling if the horse is healthy. Sick horses don't shake robustly usually not shaking at all.
THIS MAN IS A TREASURE - I WISH I LIVED IN CA, I WOULD SEE HIM. I would LOVE to hear more from him Mark if you would interview him again and again. He's your BEST interview EVER. LOVED THIS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 💕💕💕💕💕💕💕💕💕💕💕💕💕💕
Hope you are ok Mark. I know you live in the palisades which are badly affected by fires. Stay safe 👍🏻 love from Ireland 🇮🇪
Every one of these interviews with Orion is different and new. Thanks Mark!
Interviews and lectures from this man are very interesting.
Are people really so shallow? I know men who have destroyed their lives by cheating. We make ourselves miserable by choosing mates based on looks and money. As a woman, I supported myself and found a man I truly loved for himself, not for his material wealth.
This is the internet. Grain of salt etc...
Most ppl are shallow. Many don’t know it but they are too.
@@RelaxedPoo
No. It’s most people. The internet today is the world. Everyone is on it.
He’s one of my favorite influencers. I totally agree with him.
My husband farts all the time! Hahaha so does my dog and my boys! Even my cat does! I live in a farthouse!
😂
Your a smeller ma'am.
I've always found farts quite comical ...but I am a guy
@shyamlynn243 hahaha! I do too, but I'm also slightly immature 😅
Gross
i know the street interviews pay the bills, but these interviews are so good because they show how we're all searching for the same things at every level.
This is very helpful, I am going through a divorce with my wife and this very much applies and gives me insight for past, present, and future.
In my experience he’s hitting the nail right on the head. I could be here all day explaining how much I used to simp over girls. I used to have the thinking to some extent that being in a relationship with a lady was going to solve many of my problems. Kinda like the saying “every great man has an even greater woman behind him”, not to mention everyone around me had one too so it seemed like it was just what I should be focused on. However after 12 years of being on my own with nothing but bad experiences in the realm of relationships before that, I’ve finally reached a place of genuine happiness within the last year or two of my life while being on my own and now the idea of allowing anyone in that would jeopardize that just repulses me further from the ideology that I once held onto. I hope I can be able to still find a connection out there but after hearing this confirm what I pretty much already knew and seeing many of the comments, I’m not exactly going to hold my breath on finding anything truly worthwhile. Anyways, great interview Mark with much food for thought. Hopefully some can take something away from it.
Sounds like you've done the work on yourself. God bless
I feel like these guys are talking more for men in their generation, the younger generation of men are starting to care less about having a girlfriend or hooking up in general. i know quite a few guys who are successful and do not think the juice is worth the squeeze when it comes to dating or being in a relationship.
The older you get the more that is, for both genders
Very true
Caring won’t get you shit anyway. They like the ones that don’t care and I’m living proof of it. Have a 7 year relationship I’m in now, and all the romantic caring crapI’ve been doing has gotten nothing! Caring about myself and focusing on business while putting her last place, has bred the best results. Wish I would have known much sooner.
@@idenjames7717 You absolutely have to care if you want a long term relationship with women to work. Caring about each other TRULY is key. If you don't care you won't be able to truly work through any problems that arise in a long term relationship.
JFC I HOPE YOU’RE RIGHT.
I really hope they finally leave women alone.
You have no idea what it’s like trying to date in a world where a huge percentage of the men in the dating pool are very clearly angry and upset about even having to date.
They go on dates already resentful. Then are bizarrely aggressive and terrifying and r*pey bc they’re like “well if I have to put up with dating I better be getting something out of it!” And we’re just here like OMFG YOU DIDNT HAVE TO DO THIS AT ALL.
Ok, let’s see how this goes…
Will be back inna hour
Fascinating insight.
My thoughts exactly 😂 he's about to cut his fanbase
Merovingian
@@Steffertheheiferwhy?
This gets better as it goes on. Maybe my favorite talk of his.
Thank you Mark! This man is a genius so I’ve been trying to get into his own videos but I personally found it dry, almost lecture-like.
However, with the help from your questioning… Orion has some incredible insight!
Thanks Mark. Hope you and family are doing well through fire outbreak.
Orion is a legend and perfectly explains why it's such an absolute mess for so many people. He has meant a lot to me, and I suspect he played an important role in helping me break free from my toxic relationship.
That said, as a small nuance, I think it would occasionally be nice if he placed a bit more focus on the 30-50 percent of people who *do* manage to build and maintain relatively normal relationships. I see them in my circle of friends too. Sure, in the long run, most women don’t want to have much sex anymore, but at least there’s enough respect and trust to keep things on track.
Helping someone that you see some sort of potential romantic connection in is toxic empathy.
The red flag is a warning. When there’s multiple red flags and they’re planted in a minefield, then there’s danger. You’re just asking for it.
The best way to avoid getting blown up in a minefield is to avoid the minefield altogether.
You can’t fix persons who have been traumatized. They must heal themselves. Unfortunately some never do. As my wife has become older her anxiety when it comes to being a passenger in a car has become so stressful that physical symptoms appear. I rarely drive when we're together in a car. She always drives when we're together, she feels safe and in control, ( I've been a professional driver in public transit for over 30 years) I've discovered that when she was a child her mother reacted the same way when her dad drove and now she seems to mimic her mothers past action. So either she drives or we go separate in two cars. Her strong anxiety trumps any argument I may present. So I let her drive. As for me, it took over30 years to get over my father's death who passed in front of me when I was 24 years old. But I don't think I let it affect anyone but me.
This man, WOW. The knowledge he's giving is life changing. This is probably one of the best episodes I've seen. 👏
I agree with him that some people aren't meant for or ready for relationships. I also agree that people go into relationships with the idea of molding others into what they want instead of just accepting them for who they are. I'm one of those "relationships aren't for me." this isn't because I am not good at relationships; I don't try to change people and I accept people for who they are. I'm not meant for relationships for many reasons, some of which include the following: I value my independence over nearly everything, I don't like that relationships often become parental where one party is telling and controlling the other, I don't like that people try to change me, I value my alone time. I am genuinely happy to live alone and not date at all; I'm not sure why that is so hard for people to believe when over 50% of marriages fail, and rarely are people happy in their marriages. Sometimes, I feel like people want me to be as miserable as they are, so they are trying to push a relationship onto me.
The problem is society and their need to push others into relationships. There is so much pressure for it, and we can't seem to be able to accept people for the choices they make for their lives to be best for them. I can not tell you how often it happens that I tell people I am single by choice and not looking to change that the response I get back is "Oh, you just haven't found the right person yet." I'm like did you not just hear what I said? I am not even looking or wanting it, so no, I haven't found the right person because I don't want the right person I want to be alone. I'm not an addict, I don't commit crimes, I don't bother people, I don't intrude upon the lives of others, I don't create chaos, so just let me live my life the way I want to live it and accept it. Like why do people care if I am single? They aren't paying my bills, doing my job, or taking care of me in any way, so just let me be single.
Who's stopping you?
You might be an INFJ.
One of 16 personalities from the Meyer's Briggs!
You are a lone wolf, which is a positive term!! ❤🎉
@Kim-oo9vv yes, I've taken the test and I am.
Wow. I don't know why but I needed to hear this. Truth Speaks