The unfounded "unfunded pension liability" claim of the United Methodist Church

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  • Опубліковано 5 вер 2024
  • Our law firm has received a lot of questions about the claim that there is an unfunded pension liability. In this video, Dan Dalton discuss Wespath’s three pension plans and if there is currently an unfunded pension plan in place. The factual basis for the statements made is this video are here:
    The pension plans are fully funded: • Video Bishop Scott Jones video to the Texas Annual Conference, minute 1:01-1:03
    Explanation that exit payments will not necessarily be used by Conferences to pay pensions: www.wespath.or... page 6 pf 14
    Explanation of why fully funded plans need to pay an exit fee per Wespath: www.wespath.or... p. 6 opf 14
    Wespath exempting itself from ERISA: www.wespath.or..., page 3:
    Wespath’s assets: Review the annual reports: www.wespath.or...
    Difference between funding factor” and the “market basis:” www.wespath.or... p. 5
    Explanation as to why “fully funded” plans are required by Conference for withdrawing churches: www.wespath.or... page 6
    If you or your church want to leave the United Methodist denomination and are interested in hiring our firm, please call our office at (313) 859-6000 or email Dan at ddalton@daltontomich.com to set up a consultation.

КОМЕНТАРІ • 7

  • @laurencesar7758
    @laurencesar7758 8 місяців тому

    Our friend is a retired Methodist minister who just got a letter saying that since he is now retired and attending a different church he will no longer receive his pension. Is that true?

  • @googleuser8422
    @googleuser8422 2 роки тому +1

    How do we get the word out? My belief is that preachers are not addressing this at the local church level in fear of loosing their pension.

    • @hardej4272
      @hardej4272 2 роки тому

      Probably a breaking down of the call to preach the Word of God as truth; along with the lack of the fear of God among ministers. Sad thing, there are so many who still need to hear about God's salvation through Jesus Christ.

  • @gottaspeakout4272
    @gottaspeakout4272 Рік тому

    Which states are you more likely to be successful exiting out of using 2548.2 rather than 2553?

    • @daltontomichplc2855
      @daltontomichplc2855  Рік тому

      At this point in time, most conferences are not allowing churches to leave under 2548.2.

  • @jamescparnell4295
    @jamescparnell4295 2 роки тому

    If there no Trust Claus mentioned in the church property deed is that a way to disaffiliate and retain the property for free ?

  • @conniearnold9969
    @conniearnold9969 2 роки тому

    Penny cost