Aer Lingus: Pilots pay demands ‘exorbitant, untenable and will not happen’

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  • Aer Lingus pilot’s demand for a 24% pay increase is ‘exorbitant, untenable and will not happen’, the airline has told Newstalk Breakfast.
    Yesterday, an overwhelming 99% majority of Aer Lingus pilots voted in favour of industrial action - the second time they have done so in the past week.
    No date has been set for the action with the Irish Airline Pilots’ Association (IALPA) unlikely to give Aer Lingus any more warning than the legally required seven days’ notice.
    On Newstalk Breakfast this morning, Aer Lingus spokesman Donal Moriarty said the pilots seem to be “absolutely determined to inflict the disruption of industrial action on the travelling public this summer”.
    He said the airline will do everything it can to minimise disruption for passengers but insisted Aer Lingus can’t be “held to ransom” by pilots demanding an “absolutely untenable” pay rise.
    Mr Moriarty said the pilots have already rejected two independent processes - the Aer Lingus Pilot Pay Tribunal and the Labour Court - and are now refusing to engage in meaningful talks or to go to the Workplace Relations Commission.
    “What we're saying is that the last thing we want is disruption for customers, but we cannot be held to ransom for a 24% pay increase,” he said.
    “It doesn't make sense. It's exorbitant, it's untenable and it will not happen.”
    Asked if a strike is now imminent with both sides so far apart in their positions, Mr Moriarty said, “that seems to be the determined course of IALPA”.
    “Any industrial action will inevitably cause very significant disruption with flight cancellations etc,” he said.
    “Aer Lingus will do everything we can to minimise that disruption for customers and we will communicate very clearly with them but IALPA are determined to do it.
    “The last thing we want is disruption to our customers but equally, we can't be held to ransom by IALPA seeking a 24% increase in pay, which is absolutely untenable.”
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 24

  • @MrCrystalwarrior1
    @MrCrystalwarrior1 7 днів тому +4

    I love how our politicians here in Ireland are stating that the demands for an increase in pilot salary is "exorbitant" after our politicians, during the Covid Lock-down voted themselves SIX 20% salary increases while demanding people take salary deductions across the board.
    Just this year, our politicians have voted themselves the first three of six salary/expenses/pension increases this year, while telling the working people that they will now have to work until they are 75-80 years of age, due to lack of funds to support state/private pensions.
    Pilots and other flight crew here in Ireland get less salary than any other country, the same with our doctors/nurses and other tradecraft people, yet our politicians just keep ignoring the very people who vote for them when those people start asking for a salary that allows them to actually maintain a decent standard of living, in relation to their training/experience and occupation.
    Our politicians are only looking at this issue now, as it may affect the vote in the coming general election if they don't take the right action to resolve this issue.
    Unsurprising enough, the Green Party are against the pilots getting the salary increases, as they want the airlines limited to only a few flights per year, to cut down the "carbon footprint" caused by air travel.
    The leader of our Green party resigned yesterday, after losing the local election votes, and this man has, for the last four years, hardly spent a whole week in the very country he was supposed to represent, as he was always taking private flights to other countries to lecture their people/politicians about climate change.
    His deputy party leader is currently holidaying in Florida, after using their party's private jet to fly her and her family there, as she doesn't like to use commercial airlines, due to her worries over adding to the carbon footprint airlines leave while flying.
    So she used a private jet instead, and not a small jet, but a full size airliner, fitted to only carry twelve people, not the usual 150 passengers.
    So it's yet another example of just how disconnected our politicians are from reality again, denying pilots their due, while taking private flights flown by the very same pilots they don't think deserve a salary increase.

  • @kev643
    @kev643 3 дні тому +1

    We should look at the salaries the board get. These GREEDY companies think little of their workers or passengers. Companies that give no pay rises for a few years then complain when people ask for more.

  • @desabc221
    @desabc221 8 днів тому +6

    They are only talking about Captains pay in this video. Why not talk about First Officer pay as well?
    Big difference…..

  • @robertmerrick68
    @robertmerrick68 4 дні тому +2

    Their increase alone is more than most people earn in a year. Pure greed I hope they get nothing now . Just feel sorry for hard working people to have their holidays ruined

    • @annettereddall8982
      @annettereddall8982 8 годин тому

      Do you know what it takes to become a pilot?
      Their training the cost to them , on going training.
      Holidays ruined by Aer Lingus.

  • @vincentmahon6423
    @vincentmahon6423 8 днів тому +3

    The State needs to start investing in the expansion of Belfast airport. Send about 35% of the Aer Lingus fleet to Belfast and send the pilots with them. Is the 24% increase staged over a number of years?

    • @liamjohnhawkins4212
      @liamjohnhawkins4212 8 днів тому +3

      Why would the Irish state invest in an airport in the UK.

  • @anndavis1668
    @anndavis1668 5 днів тому

    Slight cancellations. Tell that to the passengers who have saved all year for a holiday. Or who have made commitments that they must see through. Air lingus, the caring Airline. No. This has damaged their integrity.

  • @gerardkelly3670
    @gerardkelly3670 7 днів тому +1

    Absolutely unbelievable how much they want.

    • @annettereddall8982
      @annettereddall8982 8 годин тому

      Look into what it takes to become a pilot and retain their licence etc then come back and complain about their money.

  • @jamesmullins657
    @jamesmullins657 8 днів тому +2

    Mr Moriartys salary stats are a lie by omission to erode public support for strike action. His stats would have you believe that no pilot in Aer Lingus is earning less than 200k a year. He is using the term pilot to refer only to captains, leaving out First/Second officers (co pilots) entirely. The starting wage for a second officer is 60k. Many of whom are coming from other airlines with large training debts (130k plus). It takes many years of training and experience to reach the rank of captain in Aer lingus.
    In short, don’t believe all the numbers quoted by executives in publications or online, be in no doubt they are well informed by Union busting solicitation firms and advisers on how exactly to steer a conversation. A win for the pilots Union here could set a precedent to other industries to work toward a living wage pay increase that they have earned.

    • @michaeloconnor2603
      @michaeloconnor2603 День тому

      Not all pilots make it to Captain...all pilots are on increments...which brings their pay to over 120k.
      Captains on 350K is Crazy

    • @michaeloconnor2603
      @michaeloconnor2603 День тому

      I don't agree with you...they are a pompous bunch in Aerlingus and always have been

    • @annettereddall8982
      @annettereddall8982 8 годин тому

      ​@@michaeloconnor2603 Look at what useless politicians get paid ,them look at their over inflated expense for running the country into the ground.
      The Pilots deserves their increase.
      Try looking into what it takes to become one and the cost if doing so.
      They deserve every cent.

  • @Aindriuh
    @Aindriuh 8 днів тому +5

    Do you have any idea of the costs involved with obtaining a commercial pilot's licence? Airline pilots just starting out as qualified first officers will have loans in excess of €189,000! Try repaying that as well as a mortgage or rent. Rent is most likely as the airlines can change the pilot's "Home Base" whenever they like.

    • @givemeabreak8784
      @givemeabreak8784 8 днів тому +6

      You don't have to pay it in a month!!! I'm a private doctor and my insurance is 68 000 a year , should I charge customers 60 000 for a surgery?

    • @Aindriuh
      @Aindriuh 8 днів тому +2

      @givemeabreak8784 They have to repay it over 5 to 10 years. They also have continuous training to pay for, flight simulator training, new variant training. The list goes on. They also have the lives of 300 souls in their care.

    • @larryburke2891
      @larryburke2891 8 днів тому +5

      ​@@Aindriuhaer lingus pays for additional training, type ratings etc, Ryanair don't

    • @Aindriuh
      @Aindriuh 8 днів тому +2

      @@larryburke2891And they have a clause in their contracts to pay back the cost of training if they leave within a certain time afterwards.

    • @_alienblood
      @_alienblood 8 днів тому +2

      @@Aindriuh The airlines pay for the Flight Sim training once they have a licence.

  • @pfauniversal1890
    @pfauniversal1890 8 днів тому

    The doc's looking a bit rough around the edges. No getting enough Micky 🤪