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Another way that I learned how to differentiate between the two, is put the verb in nai form, and if the last vowel before nai doesn’t end with an え or い, it’s a godan and if it does, it’s an ichidan verb.
I love the way you format videos in a way that engages the viewer to stay in a state of learning. This is definitely one of my top channels for learning. Also, seeing that Cure Dolly art made me smile with all the little pop-ups she used to use on screen.
This concept makes things so much easy,because instead of being lost in a list of weird rules and exceptions you can know whether a verb is classified in a way or another by just seeing it conjugated or looking it up in a dictionary that shows you this information(Jisho does)
Precisely. Also by using their original names instead of calling them "group 1" or "group 2" verbs (some teachers actually do this), it accurately tells you exactly what they do. It's almost like Japanese makes complete and total sense!
bro, you're my time saver. ive been looking for kind of simple explanation like this. couldn't find anywhere else. i'm glad to came across your video. ty so much
UA-cam literally giving me best of the best videos of the rest.. of certain topics.. this is most clear verb concept i ever found .. thanks algorithm..aka ai
Takes me a while to make because I want to do all the research and makes sure what I'm saying is actually correct before running my mouth! . Also busy grinding out those daily immersion hours 😂 . Thank you very much for watching and commenting! こちらこそありがとうございます！
@@JouzuJuls ah, i see XD. anw do you have any anime recommendations for beginners? i used to do ur anki deck but still i think i'm lacking in jp content immersion so yeah, the result is i still can't understand some basic daily dialogue. and should i start my own anki deck while watching anime?
I have been struggling with memorizing the conjugations for verbs, and I am legit going to watch your two big verb videos on loop. This stuff is amazing, dude. Thanks.
Not only a great video, but also the editing is wonderful. Good footage and funny jokes in between. Thank you so much! I wish I knew the contents of this video earlier.
I would try to organize your explanations and simplify them a little more. It’s a lot of information that jumps around, I think it might be very difficult for learners to understand. But your presentation ability is high so I’m wishing you luck!
I believe he aims at making videos that doesn't waste time uselessly while also being complete, so they can be quite dense but that's okay, these are videos you can (should) Come back multiple times to fully assimilate it
Been studying Japanese for years but never understood ichidan and godan. Thank you very much for teaching us their meaning and making it simpler to remember even the forms T-T
I was paying attention very well but at the moment I realized that background music is fukashigi no karte I started having problems. This song is so good. Almost as good as your videos man.
Basically, every verb you learn, you should learn alongside it the -masu and -nai forms as well, and then 90% of the work of learning how to conjugate it in its various forms is done.
"see? I knew you would get this right" thank you.😄 no but seriously, the way you explain is GREAT and how you edited the video makes my ADHD heart so happy, I struggle at watching videos all the way through, specially the educative ones, but with this one I had no problem. I feel like binge watching your videos lmfao.
soooo.... if you take "miru" and want to make it formal AND negative, would you say "mimasunai" ? like adding "masu" to make it formal and the negative "nai" to the conjugated verb
Do you have any resources for conjugating suru and kuru into their stems? Its just brushed over in this video, but I can't find any resources that give helpful information aside from "just memorize every possible form of suru/kuru". I can't figure out when kuru uses ki vs ko vs ku as its stem, and similarly dictionaries suggest suru has shi, sa, and su as the stem. Neither use the same patterns either.
There's basically no pattern for する and 来る and you'll have remember each form on a case by case basis. However you only ever use a handful of them so it's not that hard to remember. I think it goes without saying but going out of your way to learn a list of verbs and their conjugations isn't very practical or efficient. Just make note of it when you see it in natural immersion.
I am taking an elementary japanese course in college, and we had briefly hit on the negative form of たべる, which the teacher claimed was たべません. Is this just a different negative (perhaps formal), or is my teacher in error?
My deck is not paywalled and you can get it for free here: ua-cam.com/video/DcY2Svs3h8M/v-deo.html . About making other decks to put on Patreon and what not... . I think a much better way of batch creating cards using anime is to use Migaku since Migaku can tell which words you know already. . It would be better than any deck I make because it might contain words you already know. . Watch this video to learn how to quickly batch create cards from your favorite animes with only the words you don't know! ua-cam.com/video/45_TwPlhvGE/v-deo.html . Also I'm definitely not a sensei! "Senpai" I can accept though! 😁
I’m gonna be a Japanese tutor (kinda just beginner to intermediate, but that’s generous considering the classes’ workload lol) and I’m worried about this - I know all these rules, ichidan, godan, and I know many tenses so far (I’m not fluent, I’m learning on my own time though) But I’m wondering, is there a time too early to teach the two (plus irregular) verb types and conjugation rules? Is it more of an intermediate topic or just that it seems intimidating, but gets to be second nature with practice (my experience, tho I tackled conjugation after some time, not immediately in a beginner stage) It’s frustrating cause my Japanese Professor (she’s the only one who teaches Japanese, and also handles Chinese) says that that’s “too hard” and to “keep it easy for the students, don’t do all that stuff” but like,, how am I supposed to teach it then? It seems easier in the long-run than memorizing a bunch of verb forms separately (I guess you could just get it with time and learn said rules indirectly but idk I just think “work smarter not harder” for this instance” I don’t wanna go behind my professor’s back, but I’m a new tutor and don’t have experience, and I’m just unsure of how to proceed. Does anyone have any advice?
One of my biggest annoyances is that typically Ichidan verbs are transitive whereas Godan are intransitive, but naturally there are exceptions and those can sometimes blindside me
Hello, I just found your channel! ...and yes I subscribed lol anyways I'm currently learning Japanese and haven't made alot of headway, I've pretty much learned hiragana and katakana and about 100 kanji, I hope your channel helps me, so far I like your style! Maybe I need a private online teacher as well...wish me luck and I'll check back in with ya in the future and let you know about my progress. Thanks again my new online friend, looking forward to many more videos from you
Thank you for watching and commenting! For absolute beginners, I serious recommend giving this a watch because it will 10x your Japanese learning: ua-cam.com/video/DcY2Svs3h8M/v-deo.html
Hello. Aside from that dramatisation and editing I don't really like (I prefer much more classical and refined style of video, with a slower pace, or else, I lose easily my concentration), thank you for your video. I appreciated the explanations you gave about how to recognise what kind of verb it is in words like 出入り. Just one thing: if we have to "learn Japanese verbs like a native", in fact, Japanese considerer there are not 3 groups, but 5 groups of verbs: - 5 grade verbs, of 五段 (Godan); - High 1 grade verbs, or 上一段 (Kami Ichidan), that means 1 grade verbs whose final sound before the "u sound" is "above the u" if we read the Japanese alphabet vertically, in other words, the "iru Ichidan"; - Bottom 1 grade verbs, or 下一段 (Shimo Ichidan), that means 1 grade verbs whose final sound before the "u sound" is "under the u" if we read the Japanese alphabet vertically, in other words, the "Eru Ichidan"; - Irregular forms in k sound, or カ行変格 (often abbreviated in カ変), which includes just one verb that is 来る (me might consider it also includes composed verbs using 来る like 出てくる); - Irregular forms in s sound, or サ行変格 (often abbreviated in サ変), which includes not only する, but also all of those composed verbs using する (like 勉強する). In fact, I don't particularly like this "irregular verbs" name, because it gives the learner the false idea there would be just two irregular verbs (but there are other ones, like 問う, 言う, or 行く, or even なさる and いらっしゃる). I prefer the names of the Japanese grammar that is specifying which kind of "irregular form" we are talking about, instead of just simplifying the name in "irregular verbs" like we do in Western teaching of Japanese.
Hello again! Thanks for coming to see my other videos! Once again appreciate the comment. I've actually mentioned all this in the worksheet as well as explained why I didn't include it in the video. To keep it short, 1. There's no functional reason to learn 上/下 一段 verbs. They function the same. 2. The amount of exceptions are so few and so common, it is not hard to remember as you see them. カ変 only has 1 entry so there's no point giving it it's own category, and サ変 is inconsistent in modern Japanese (愛する). 3. Unsure what you mean that by calling them "Exceptions" we imply that there are only 2. If I say there are apples, I'm not saying there are 2 apples, I'm saying there are multiple apples. 4. Since most verbs fall into either 一段 or 五段, anything that isn't one of these can be treated as an exception. You can further draw rules to know what to do with each specific exception, but because there are so few exceptions and so few consistencies, and the fact that we've already determined them to be an exception- I do not believe it is useful to tell learners there are exceptions within the exceptions. Just learn exceptions as separate.
@@JouzuJuls In fact, everybody talks about 2 kinds of Ichidan or "group 2 verbs": the "iru verbs" and "eru verbs". You too was talking about both of them. And that is normal: I think it is very important to understand there are two types of Ichidan verbs, so that we can recognise them better. So, I see the benefit in that. Yes, the exceptions are few, but... there are very, very visible. If you consider 言う, 行く, or even ある (given the fact the form あら does not exist anymore in modern standard Japanese, contrary to some dialects like Kansaiben or classical Japanese), I think I'm not wrong if I say they are in the top 10 of the most used verbs in Japanese. As for me, i felt quite puzzled to discover the truth, think that people lied to me. As for the two groups of irregular verbs that are taught in Japan, I think it is convenient to explain those have a particularity compared to the other irregular verbs: it is the stem of the verb itself that changes. One of those two groups has 3 radicals (く, こ and き), and the other has 4 (す, し, さ, せ). So, if I was explained that, why two seperate irregular groups were created for those verbs but not for the other irregular verbs, I would have understand better that the other irregularities in other verbs do not belong to the same kind of irregularity. In fact, when I learn another language, I don't like been taught a grammar that is different of the grammar that is taught to the natives of the language I learn, as if I had been lied by teachers or textbooks trying to fit a square into a triangle, trying to explain a different language logic by a different language logic. However, the verb groups are not the biggest issue to me. But for example, when Western teachings were explaining me there is a "te form of verbs" in Japanese, or that there is a kind of adjective called "na adjectives", or even "polite form" and "neutral form", I did not quite understand what that was until I discovered the traditional 6 forms of verbs and adjectives. So, I would have preferred been explained from the beginning we use 連用形 of the verbs from which we added て with changes in pronounciation, and that this 連用形 can have the same function of connecting clauses without て in more formal and written language, instead of been explained "we take the neutral form of verbs and we transform them into te forms". As for the adjectival nouns (the so called "na adjectives"), I would have preferred been explained the take the 連体形 form of だ that is な (by explaining what means exactly this form), instead of being explained "To use such an adjective before another nound, we have to add な". I would also appreciated been explained from the beginning the concept of "auxiliary" (助動詞) in Japanese, that だ and です are some of them (instead of been told "those are verbs" or even "those are copulas"), as well as ます or even た. And speaking of ます, I would also preferred been explained from the beginning that in negative, we take the 未然形 form that is ませ and that we add a "negative auxiliary" that is ん (abbreviated form of ぬ), and that in past/accomplished, we take the 連用形 that is まし and that we add the auxiliary た, instead of been explained "we replace ます by ません or ました). I would not have been puzzled when reading things like 知らん if I was explained ん was the very first negative auxiliary that was taught to me long before ない, or when learning the past form of the other verbs. And this would have helped me to discover more easily classical Japanese (that I'm still studying). So, if teachings does not explain me a language on the same way or logic it is taught to the natives, I don't really understand that language, feeling they are always lying to me. But maybe I'm a little weird, I don't know. Actually, I have no problem on the fact some people prefer "Western teachings" of the languages they learn, but my biggest complaint is that those teachings NEVER SAY they are not based on the same way natives learn their mother language. So, it is always as if those teaching are lying to me about that (fortunately, later, I discovered other teachings in my language that was explaining things in a way that looked like the native way of explanation).
"Go" isn't irregular, the reason the -te form is how it is is because when it was still "ikite" and spoken quickly, it gets crushed down to "itte". In fact, a good deal of guesswork on the -te form can be sussed out by putting it back in the "-ite" and saying it fast. (oyogu - goyogite - oyoide), "well" is only irregular as "ii", when congugated, it's "yoi". and "Like" (suki) isn't a verb, it's an na-adjective.
@@JouzuJuls Really, the hardest thing about Japanese is negotiating three writing systems (excluding roumaji). I think the verbs are probably the easiest thing to learn about in Japanese. It's all very regular and organized.
I think your video has great info in it - but for the love of god why must you do ADHD level editing throughout it. It just pulls me out and makes it too hard to concentrate on it. Random minecraft crap, single words flashing up as you say them, flowers, wood chopping, etc etc. It's too much.
The only language class I took was Chinese, and I still can't understand Chinese. English "class" for me at school was just immersion- reading books and watching movies. Never had grammar classes for English. Thus never knew grammar terms 🤪
Haha kinda pains me to hear that because Dolly Sensei was a really good teacher and had a great heart. Even in her last moments she was still responding to my questions while I was completely unaware of how serious her situation was... . That said I do understand what you're saying tho, I too was put off by her thumbnail and model when first seeing it. . Really glad I'm able to help spread her message to more people! If only she was here to see it too 🥲
@@JouzuJulsyou are correct. Cure dolly was an amazing teacher. I only found out today that she passed away and it pains me greatly because as you said even in her last moments she TRULY cared about each and every single one of her students. My condolences to those who were close to her. RIP cure dolly, you will always be remember and i will continue to study so you can be proud of me up there.
PART 2 covers how verbs ACTUALLY conjugate by using the "Verb Stems" system. Click this link to watch now! ua-cam.com/video/cGA6Tj9_lSg/v-deo.html
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Another way that I learned how to differentiate between the two, is put the verb in nai form, and if the last vowel before nai doesn’t end with an え or い, it’s a godan and if it does, it’s an ichidan verb.
Very nice point! Super useful!
Making it even more simple: if the last vowel before ない is an a it must be godan...
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I love the way you format videos in a way that engages the viewer to stay in a state of learning. This is definitely one of my top channels for learning. Also, seeing that Cure Dolly art made me smile with all the little pop-ups she used to use on screen.
Glad you appreciate the way I format my videos! Long live Dolly!
Hands down the best video I've seen on this topic. Your editing is goated.
ご視聴ありがとうございます！
Thank you very much for watching and commenting!
This concept makes things so much easy,because instead of being lost in a list of weird rules and exceptions you can know whether a verb is classified in a way or another by just seeing it conjugated or looking it up in a dictionary that shows you this information(Jisho does)
Precisely. Also by using their original names instead of calling them "group 1" or "group 2" verbs (some teachers actually do this), it accurately tells you exactly what they do. It's almost like Japanese makes complete and total sense!
bro, you're my time saver. ive been looking for kind of simple explanation like this.
couldn't find anywhere else.
i'm glad to came across your video. ty so much
UA-cam literally giving me best of the best videos of the rest.. of certain topics.. this is most clear verb concept i ever found .. thanks algorithm..aka ai
Fuck. I learnt more with this 11 minutes video than in 3 years of studying Japanese with japanese teachers that just follow the book.
Seriously, right? Just get our education on UA-cam and language apps to practice with native Japanese people lol
Sensei says - just memorise every Verb if it is ichidan or godan 😅
Finally the clearest explaination of ichidan and godan after years of memorising without understanding. Thank you aensei
finally a new japanese video grammar again, and as always ur video help me so much!. ありがとう
Takes me a while to make because I want to do all the research and makes sure what I'm saying is actually correct before running my mouth!
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Also busy grinding out those daily immersion hours 😂
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Thank you very much for watching and commenting! こちらこそありがとうございます！
@@JouzuJuls ah, i see XD. anw do you have any anime recommendations for beginners? i used to do ur anki deck but still i think i'm lacking in jp content immersion so yeah, the result is i still can't understand some basic daily dialogue. and should i start my own anki deck while watching anime?
I have been struggling with memorizing the conjugations for verbs, and I am legit going to watch your two big verb videos on loop. This stuff is amazing, dude. Thanks.
Not only a great video, but also the editing is wonderful. Good footage and funny jokes in between. Thank you so much! I wish I knew the contents of this video earlier.
I would try to organize your explanations and simplify them a little more. It’s a lot of information that jumps around, I think it might be very difficult for learners to understand. But your presentation ability is high so I’m wishing you luck!
I believe he aims at making videos that doesn't waste time uselessly while also being complete, so they can be quite dense but that's okay, these are videos you can (should) Come back multiple times to fully assimilate it
I wish Duolingo did more exercises on verb tenses.
Your editing in on point dude, you've got me subscribed
The last part is really helpful！Thank you so much.
Very helpful, clearly laid out information...thank you!
Glad you found the video helpful! こちらこそ Thank you for watching!
WOW. WHY AM I JUST NOW SEEING THIS THANK YOU.
Been studying Japanese for years but never understood ichidan and godan. Thank you very much for teaching us their meaning and making it simpler to remember even the forms T-T
the yakuza gameplay in the
background hooked me, but i stayed for
the info🙏🙏
I was paying attention very well but at the moment I realized that background music is fukashigi no karte I started having problems. This song is so good. Almost as good as your videos man.
Thank you so much for this life saving video ❤️.. Love & Respect from India 🇮🇳🫰
Bro im learning japanese with minecraft parkour. and NGL this has been the best video i had on verbs, I'm cooked.
Thanks a lot ❤ Your videos are great. CureDolly's knowledge should be passed for generations to come
100%. Really hope what I'm doing ends up helping learners the way Dolly did!
All I'm gonna say is that your content is way too underrated for what it is.
man this is so helpful, you're a legend
Unbelievable; great editing, informative and yet you have 22k subscribers. Thank you! You're channel will definitely blow up at some point :D
Thank you, this video was really helpful! So glad to have found your channel! Wish I had found your channel sooner and learned this way earlier. 😅
こちらこそ Thank you for watching and commenting! Now that you've found the channel it's better late than never! 😎
I didn’t understand everything but that video is gold
This is the best videos I have ever seen ❤
Really awesome video. Many thanks
came for verb conjugation, stayed for kiryu cosplay
Very helpful. Thank you!
When you explained how to tell them apart using compound words my mind felt like it woke up.
Great video! thanks 😊for sharing
Basically, every verb you learn, you should learn alongside it the -masu and -nai forms as well, and then 90% of the work of learning how to conjugate it in its various forms is done.
This is useful to me. Thank you!
Thanks! I finally got it 🤓 Great video 👍
"see? I knew you would get this right" thank you.😄 no but seriously, the way you explain is GREAT and how you edited the video makes my ADHD heart so happy, I struggle at watching videos all the way through, specially the educative ones, but with this one I had no problem. I feel like binge watching your videos lmfao.
Epic video 😎👍 I don't have to waste too much time with Japanese verbs rules and stuff. Easy af.
soooo.... if you take "miru" and want to make it formal AND negative, would you say "mimasunai" ? like adding "masu" to make it formal and the negative "nai" to the conjugated verb
Can you please put a link for the kana chart you show at 0:37 ? If that is part of the membership them I understand. Thanks for the helpful video!
Here you go: cdn.innovativelanguage.com/sns/em/content/lp/kana/hiragana_chart.jpg !
@@JouzuJuls Thank you!!
Thank you very very much Jouzu
You're very welcome! And thank you for watching! 😁
Your videos are sooo good
Do you have any resources for conjugating suru and kuru into their stems? Its just brushed over in this video, but I can't find any resources that give helpful information aside from "just memorize every possible form of suru/kuru". I can't figure out when kuru uses ki vs ko vs ku as its stem, and similarly dictionaries suggest suru has shi, sa, and su as the stem. Neither use the same patterns either.
There's basically no pattern for する and 来る and you'll have remember each form on a case by case basis. However you only ever use a handful of them so it's not that hard to remember.
I think it goes without saying but going out of your way to learn a list of verbs and their conjugations isn't very practical or efficient. Just make note of it when you see it in natural immersion.
@@JouzuJuls I see. Thank you!
I am taking an elementary japanese course in college, and we had briefly hit on the negative form of たべる, which the teacher claimed was たべません. Is this just a different negative (perhaps formal), or is my teacher in error?
Sensei, any thoughts on adding some anki decks on your patreon?🤔
Like conplilations of a series or something like that..
My deck is not paywalled and you can get it for free here: ua-cam.com/video/DcY2Svs3h8M/v-deo.html
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About making other decks to put on Patreon and what not...
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I think a much better way of batch creating cards using anime is to use Migaku since Migaku can tell which words you know already.
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It would be better than any deck I make because it might contain words you already know.
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Watch this video to learn how to quickly batch create cards from your favorite animes with only the words you don't know! ua-cam.com/video/45_TwPlhvGE/v-deo.html
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Also I'm definitely not a sensei! "Senpai" I can accept though! 😁
I’m gonna be a Japanese tutor (kinda just beginner to intermediate, but that’s generous considering the classes’ workload lol) and I’m worried about this - I know all these rules, ichidan, godan, and I know many tenses so far (I’m not fluent, I’m learning on my own time though)
But I’m wondering, is there a time too early to teach the two (plus irregular) verb types and conjugation rules? Is it more of an intermediate topic or just that it seems intimidating, but gets to be second nature with practice (my experience, tho I tackled conjugation after some time, not immediately in a beginner stage)
It’s frustrating cause my Japanese Professor (she’s the only one who teaches Japanese, and also handles Chinese) says that that’s “too hard” and to “keep it easy for the students, don’t do all that stuff” but like,, how am I supposed to teach it then? It seems easier in the long-run than memorizing a bunch of verb forms separately (I guess you could just get it with time and learn said rules indirectly but idk I just think “work smarter not harder” for this instance”
I don’t wanna go behind my professor’s back, but I’m a new tutor and don’t have experience, and I’m just unsure of how to proceed. Does anyone have any advice?
how are the irregular verbs stuff we were suppose to already know?
Which fonts for Japanese do you use?
One of my biggest annoyances is that typically Ichidan verbs are transitive whereas Godan are intransitive, but naturally there are exceptions and those can sometimes blindside me
7:38 that scream
-i actually did make that mistake once a friend pointed it out and it felt awful-
ありがとよう❤
Hello, I just found your channel! ...and yes I subscribed lol anyways I'm currently learning Japanese and haven't made alot of headway, I've pretty much learned hiragana and katakana and about 100 kanji, I hope your channel helps me, so far I like your style! Maybe I need a private online teacher as well...wish me luck and I'll check back in with ya in the future and let you know about my progress. Thanks again my new online friend, looking forward to many more videos from you
Thank you for watching and commenting! For absolute beginners, I serious recommend giving this a watch because it will 10x your Japanese learning: ua-cam.com/video/DcY2Svs3h8M/v-deo.html
Thanks!
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He says over halfway through the video
A fellow cultured pirate enjoyer, nice 🏴☠️
te quiero, you saved me
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What game is that in the background?? 0:22
That's the Yakuza series for the first 7 parts (0 to 6), from 8th part onward, it's known as "Like a Dragon" series.
Yakuza
Hello. Aside from that dramatisation and editing I don't really like (I prefer much more classical and refined style of video, with a slower pace, or else, I lose easily my concentration), thank you for your video. I appreciated the explanations you gave about how to recognise what kind of verb it is in words like 出入り.
Just one thing: if we have to "learn Japanese verbs like a native", in fact, Japanese considerer there are not 3 groups, but 5 groups of verbs:
- 5 grade verbs, of 五段 (Godan);
- High 1 grade verbs, or 上一段 (Kami Ichidan), that means 1 grade verbs whose final sound before the "u sound" is "above the u" if we read the Japanese alphabet vertically, in other words, the "iru Ichidan";
- Bottom 1 grade verbs, or 下一段 (Shimo Ichidan), that means 1 grade verbs whose final sound before the "u sound" is "under the u" if we read the Japanese alphabet vertically, in other words, the "Eru Ichidan";
- Irregular forms in k sound, or カ行変格 (often abbreviated in カ変), which includes just one verb that is 来る (me might consider it also includes composed verbs using 来る like 出てくる);
- Irregular forms in s sound, or サ行変格 (often abbreviated in サ変), which includes not only する, but also all of those composed verbs using する (like 勉強する).
In fact, I don't particularly like this "irregular verbs" name, because it gives the learner the false idea there would be just two irregular verbs (but there are other ones, like 問う, 言う, or 行く, or even なさる and いらっしゃる). I prefer the names of the Japanese grammar that is specifying which kind of "irregular form" we are talking about, instead of just simplifying the name in "irregular verbs" like we do in Western teaching of Japanese.
Hello again! Thanks for coming to see my other videos! Once again appreciate the comment.
I've actually mentioned all this in the worksheet as well as explained why I didn't include it in the video.
To keep it short,
1. There's no functional reason to learn 上/下 一段 verbs. They function the same.
2. The amount of exceptions are so few and so common, it is not hard to remember as you see them. カ変 only has 1 entry so there's no point giving it it's own category, and サ変 is inconsistent in modern Japanese (愛する).
3. Unsure what you mean that by calling them "Exceptions" we imply that there are only 2. If I say there are apples, I'm not saying there are 2 apples, I'm saying there are multiple apples.
4. Since most verbs fall into either 一段 or 五段, anything that isn't one of these can be treated as an exception. You can further draw rules to know what to do with each specific exception, but because there are so few exceptions and so few consistencies, and the fact that we've already determined them to be an exception- I do not believe it is useful to tell learners there are exceptions within the exceptions. Just learn exceptions as separate.
@@JouzuJuls In fact, everybody talks about 2 kinds of Ichidan or "group 2 verbs": the "iru verbs" and "eru verbs". You too was talking about both of them. And that is normal: I think it is very important to understand there are two types of Ichidan verbs, so that we can recognise them better. So, I see the benefit in that.
Yes, the exceptions are few, but... there are very, very visible. If you consider 言う, 行く, or even ある (given the fact the form あら does not exist anymore in modern standard Japanese, contrary to some dialects like Kansaiben or classical Japanese), I think I'm not wrong if I say they are in the top 10 of the most used verbs in Japanese. As for me, i felt quite puzzled to discover the truth, think that people lied to me.
As for the two groups of irregular verbs that are taught in Japan, I think it is convenient to explain those have a particularity compared to the other irregular verbs: it is the stem of the verb itself that changes. One of those two groups has 3 radicals (く, こ and き), and the other has 4 (す, し, さ, せ). So, if I was explained that, why two seperate irregular groups were created for those verbs but not for the other irregular verbs, I would have understand better that the other irregularities in other verbs do not belong to the same kind of irregularity.
In fact, when I learn another language, I don't like been taught a grammar that is different of the grammar that is taught to the natives of the language I learn, as if I had been lied by teachers or textbooks trying to fit a square into a triangle, trying to explain a different language logic by a different language logic.
However, the verb groups are not the biggest issue to me. But for example, when Western teachings were explaining me there is a "te form of verbs" in Japanese, or that there is a kind of adjective called "na adjectives", or even "polite form" and "neutral form", I did not quite understand what that was until I discovered the traditional 6 forms of verbs and adjectives.
So, I would have preferred been explained from the beginning we use 連用形 of the verbs from which we added て with changes in pronounciation, and that this 連用形 can have the same function of connecting clauses without て in more formal and written language, instead of been explained "we take the neutral form of verbs and we transform them into te forms".
As for the adjectival nouns (the so called "na adjectives"), I would have preferred been explained the take the 連体形 form of だ that is な (by explaining what means exactly this form), instead of being explained "To use such an adjective before another nound, we have to add な".
I would also appreciated been explained from the beginning the concept of "auxiliary" (助動詞) in Japanese, that だ and です are some of them (instead of been told "those are verbs" or even "those are copulas"), as well as ます or even た. And speaking of ます, I would also preferred been explained from the beginning that in negative, we take the 未然形 form that is ませ and that we add a "negative auxiliary" that is ん (abbreviated form of ぬ), and that in past/accomplished, we take the 連用形 that is まし and that we add the auxiliary た, instead of been explained "we replace ます by ません or ました). I would not have been puzzled when reading things like 知らん if I was explained ん was the very first negative auxiliary that was taught to me long before ない, or when learning the past form of the other verbs.
And this would have helped me to discover more easily classical Japanese (that I'm still studying).
So, if teachings does not explain me a language on the same way or logic it is taught to the natives, I don't really understand that language, feeling they are always lying to me. But maybe I'm a little weird, I don't know.
Actually, I have no problem on the fact some people prefer "Western teachings" of the languages they learn, but my biggest complaint is that those teachings NEVER SAY they are not based on the same way natives learn their mother language. So, it is always as if those teaching are lying to me about that (fortunately, later, I discovered other teachings in my language that was explaining things in a way that looked like the native way of explanation).
@@JouzuJuls Indeed, we should be grateful that Japanese has so few irregular verbs, unlike most romance and Germanic languages.
Still a bit confused but ngl im feeling better than before
8:09 "i knew you would get this correct" my dumbass who said Kinai
interesting
Glad I can slow it all down to .75…
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you cooked sir 🙏🙏🙏
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you say "eee" stem for "i" then say "Ehy" stem for "a", why not just keep everything consistent and say "Ah" stem for "a"
Just a bad habit, you're right though I should keep that more consistent and say "Ah" instead
More of the basic verbs (like, well, do, come, and go) are gonna be irregular.
"Go" isn't irregular, the reason the -te form is how it is is because when it was still "ikite" and spoken quickly, it gets crushed down to "itte". In fact, a good deal of guesswork on the -te form can be sussed out by putting it back in the "-ite" and saying it fast. (oyogu - goyogite - oyoide), "well" is only irregular as "ii", when congugated, it's "yoi". and "Like" (suki) isn't a verb, it's an na-adjective.
Wow, slooooooooow sooooowwwwn
People who are actually trying to learn Japanese want to learn it, when you talk so fast, nothing sinks in..
日本語はね「法則みつけたぜ！！」って思ったら裏切られる言語なんだぜｗ
いや、実はそれは感じてないですね。最初は確かにそうですが、正解な法則を見つければ以外に例外はほとんどないです。問題は人気教科書とか、人気オンライン文法ガイドとか、人気スマホアプリとか... とにかく人気ものの法則は全部違いますね。
『漢字でGO』の動画に現れた「師匠」のキャラは実は私の本当の先生でしたｗ "Cure Dolly"先生と呼ばれて、UA-camで無料に日本語の文法の正しい法則を教わったんだ。
今、正直の感想は、日本語より英語が難しいと思います！
What?!?!
日本語の動詞は難しい！
でもなぜ？
People are really obsessed with making Japanese harder than it really is. I'm not sure how that's helpful for learners though.
@@JouzuJuls Really, the hardest thing about Japanese is negotiating three writing systems (excluding roumaji). I think the verbs are probably the easiest thing to learn about in Japanese. It's all very regular and organized.
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This makes no sense to me. Legit I feel like I'm trying to learn Algebra all over again
What part doesn't make sense?
I think your video has great info in it - but for the love of god why must you do ADHD level editing throughout it. It just pulls me out and makes it too hard to concentrate on it. Random minecraft crap, single words flashing up as you say them, flowers, wood chopping, etc etc. It's too much.
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Ah yes, it is I, the one that barely knows anything in Japanese, watching the 2nd then the 1st video in this series, because 🥴
you didn't know what a VERB was? MATE how did you survive life until then?
Not a hater but how do you not know what a verb is at that time 💀
The only language class I took was Chinese, and I still can't understand Chinese.
English "class" for me at school was just immersion- reading books and watching movies. Never had grammar classes for English. Thus never knew grammar terms 🤪
Video is too fast its hard to keep up. Have to drop the speed to .75 and its also hard to follow based on so much information.
Thank god for Juls, watching those unbearable Cure Dolly videos and making better content so we dont have to watch those videos.
Haha kinda pains me to hear that because Dolly Sensei was a really good teacher and had a great heart. Even in her last moments she was still responding to my questions while I was completely unaware of how serious her situation was...
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That said I do understand what you're saying tho, I too was put off by her thumbnail and model when first seeing it.
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Really glad I'm able to help spread her message to more people! If only she was here to see it too 🥲
@@JouzuJulsyou are correct. Cure dolly was an amazing teacher. I only found out today that she passed away and it pains me greatly because as you said even in her last moments she TRULY cared about each and every single one of her students. My condolences to those who were close to her. RIP cure dolly, you will always be remember and i will continue to study so you can be proud of me up there.
Maybe if these videos didn't consistently try to distract from the information, then they could be watchable
What's distracting??
i need the same video series for arabic 🥲
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