Healthy discussion and we should be happy ther are any surviving fragments of our heritage. It is because of good luck and a lot of work by dedicated people.
very well researched, yeah some have said 90, some have said 125 some have said third century... curious if you can actually read greek. glad to see your interested in things like linguistics and new testament textual transmission...
@@jdreiner6274 that's really neat. with the tech out there you never know" best to ask these things I think anyway... your greek is undoubtedly better than mine then...
@@jdreiner6274 I am teaching myself. I am actually blind, I use logos as it gives me access to manuscripts. I have definitely not mastered the language and I get stuck sometimes, but I am able to read a little bit...
The following is an extract from: Fragments (Pseudo-Peter) ch5.7 Written by Peter the Bishop of Alexandria It was written some time between 300-311AD whilst Christianity was still illegal and widely persecuted though not as a formal persecution as before. Over the following 2 years, Constantine would convert and legalise. Here is what St. Peter of Alexandria wrote: ‘…as John, the divine and evangelist, teaches us in the Gospel written by him, […] and the copy itself that was written by the hand of the evangelist, which, by the divine grace, has been preserved in the most holy church of Ephesus, and is there adored by the faithful…’ In 300 we have the original John and there is every reason to believe its preservation continued. All of our early John manuscripts (including the 4 complete NT manuscripts) match almost word perfectly (with the obvious exception of the beginning of John 8) to what we have today and it is hardly a stretch to date: P5 P6 P22 P28 P39 P45 P52 P66 P75 P80 P90 P95 P106 Códex Alexandrinus Códex Vaticanus Códex Sinaiticas All before the loss of the original Gospel according to John. The level of agreement and the fact these manuscripts are not all related shows the level of preservation and how well we can trust that, even if the wording is not exact, we have a fantastic reason (every reason in fact) to believe we possess the words and teachings of Jesus and the apostles as passed down by the NT writers.
People have the original Scriptures in a Paleo Hebrew book. They have it in the museum. They don't want anybody to know about it.there is one guy that has it if u pay the right price
Healthy discussion and we should be happy ther are any surviving fragments of our heritage. It is because of good luck and a lot of work by dedicated people.
I took a picture with this when I went to Manchester
very well researched, yeah some have said 90, some have said 125 some have said third century... curious if you can actually read greek. glad to see your interested in things like linguistics and new testament textual transmission...
Yes, I can read it. I've taken three years of Greek in graduate school. Glad you're interested too!
@@jdreiner6274 that's really neat. with the tech out there you never know" best to ask these things I think anyway... your greek is undoubtedly better than mine then...
@@jamesclark131 where did you study Greek?
@@jdreiner6274 I am teaching myself. I am actually blind, I use logos as it gives me access to manuscripts. I have definitely not mastered the language and I get stuck sometimes, but I am able to read a little bit...
@@jamesclark131 Well that makes your efforts even more impressive. I'm cheering for you!
The following is an extract from:
Fragments (Pseudo-Peter) ch5.7
Written by
Peter the Bishop of Alexandria
It was written some time between 300-311AD whilst Christianity was still illegal and widely persecuted though not as a formal persecution as before.
Over the following 2 years, Constantine would convert and legalise.
Here is what St. Peter of Alexandria wrote:
‘…as John, the divine and evangelist, teaches us in the Gospel written by him, […] and the copy itself that was written by the hand of the evangelist, which, by the divine grace, has been preserved in the most holy church of Ephesus, and is there adored by the faithful…’
In 300 we have the original John and there is every reason to believe its preservation continued.
All of our early John manuscripts (including the 4 complete NT manuscripts) match almost word perfectly (with the obvious exception of the beginning of John 8) to what we have today and it is hardly a stretch to date:
P5
P6
P22
P28
P39
P45
P52
P66
P75
P80
P90
P95
P106
Códex Alexandrinus
Códex Vaticanus
Códex Sinaiticas
All before the loss of the original
Gospel according to John.
The level of agreement and the fact these manuscripts are not all related shows the level of preservation and how well we can trust that, even if the wording is not exact, we have a fantastic reason (every reason in fact) to believe we possess the words and teachings of Jesus and the apostles as passed down by the NT writers.
People have the original Scriptures in a Paleo Hebrew book. They have it in the museum. They don't want anybody to know about it.there is one guy that has it if u pay the right price