How can you trust the New Testament when the original manuscripts are different?
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- Опубліковано 30 вер 2024
- There isn’t one, single, original, preserved copy of the New Testament. So how can you trust the text of the New Testament when all the earliest copies disagree with each other?
Daniel B. Wallace, Executive Director of The Center for the Study of New Testament Manuscripts, explains why you can still trust the text of the New Testament despite it having so many textual variants.
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unlike islam, and the Quran which was transmitted orally without any changes since the inception of islam
If several people witness the same crime they'll all have different interpretations which is why eye witnesses testimony is unreliable so it's not possible that a book is "orally transmitted" perfectly for eons.
What a truly bizarre argument. Essentially, this creator is claiming that, because no one has original manuscripts, and every copy disagrees and contradicts every other copy, this means we know what the originals said and meant. Welcome to Bizarro World.
Rational adults would say that if we have original manuscripts, and these without doubt, then and only then do we know what the originals said. In the case of the new testament, the first complete copy comes from the 4th century CE. So, in 200+ years, no one has any idea what was changed, added, or omitted. And since the entire new testament was written between 20 (Paul's legitimate letters) to nearly 100 years after the events described, we also have no idea how much those descriptions were altered, added, to, removed from, or simply made up in the oral tradition. Not a word of the new testament is, or claims to be, eyewitness testimony; it is all, at best, third or fourth or later retelling. Not exactly convincing evidence for any purpose to begin with.
I know exactly, precisely what the text of Mein Kampf said - I have a first edition of the book in my hand. The best that biblical believers has is a hundreds of years old, admittedly inaccurate and altered, written record of decades old claims. This is a pathetic and bizarre thing to base one's entire life on.
MK, one of the best books ever written.
@@marissaorsic154 The contents are., largely, repulsive, but it does provide a significant insight into the mind of one of the most important persons of the 20th century.
@@petercollins7730 You never read it did you ?
@@petercollins7730 Repulsive no,..... one of the most intelligent and honest leaders of all time, yes.
@@marissaorsic154 Yes, I have read it, much of it more than once. My opinion stands.
Why is it so hard to find one video on the history of revisions and edits that were made to the modern bible? All I get are religious channels preaching what they claim are the real versions, but aren't they just copies from copies that were translated and re-written over centuries again and again? I want to know how many times the bible was edited throughout all history.
The man said, the differences are small that they don’t affect doctrine. So Jesus is still God.
@@bornagainalex2250 bullshit
@@bornagainalex2250 Look dude I already know the bible is all lies I just wanted to find out how many times it has been edited because it would be good evidence it is bullshit. Apologetics will always find some excuse to believe in ghosts.
@@oldindianchief9403 you don’t know the Bible , you will never know the Bible more than Christians , let me ask you this , do you believe life can come from non life ? That your ancestors are fish ? We can’t even find the missing links of your Darwinian fairytale , so I wouldn’t be talking if I were you
@@Mayan_88694 You're out of your mind. Why don't you try to humble yourself and stop believing in fairy tales.
Hi everyone , we may not have the orginal bible but they still got it, even turkish state got 2 of the oginal copies of the bible , now listen my first amatuer explaination video called " why do they hide the orginal bible and the orginal torah ? " to meet the truth
We love Jesus because he loved us first. 🙏
Gaaaay!
Funny watch what Dr. Wallace says about the New Testament in this interview ua-cam.com/video/6zn1mvL4oHA/v-deo.html
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lol
Jesus never existed so he could not love you first.
The Old Testament was written in Hebrew - The New Testament is written in Greek - That should tell a thinking person something.
Victor Butcher
It tells me that scribes were using different languages 400 years after the last prophet of the OT.
There are possibly a number of reasons for this, none of which suggest a conspiracy you appear to be inferring.
The strong influence of Rome on Israel and a new focus that went BEYOND the occult language of the Jews aiming to reach the Gentiles are two very reasonable guesses why Greek was used.
That’s because aruis piso and Romans created Iesus ua-cam.com/video/sr8oos00JMw/v-deo.html
Actually the NT wasn't written in Greek first..and there are many meaningful mistranslations bc of it
@@souldesire5932 utter falsehood
@@sohayameen2452 Not at all, it's easily proven and the translations make more sense at times. Historians noted that it was much more rare than people think to speak Greek in those areas at that time. The events were CERTAINLY not taking place in Greek language. And there is manipulation in the Bible as well, more than people think.
I believe the Bible
Yes, lot of people belive in copy of bible. People belive, without investigating truth.. if know the truth, dont want to belive the truth, dont wamt to accept the truth if bible is not original. U belive it, not belive prove n research. This is up to, coz when u died, u will give reason to god. But god will ask back, u already have prove but why still dont belive,. Goodluck
ua-cam.com/video/ePRg1q4sbYQ/v-deo.html Is Jeremiah's prophecy about Christ
Same uwu
@max marrero want debate
@@giovannigobbi4832 ?
OMG, please forgive them for boldly corrupting your holy words. And show us the right path to your mercy 😭 .
See you tube (Christian Prince)
If injeel is the word of allah and christians corrupted his words doesn't that mean that allah is a liar and a false god because he says in the quran surah 6:115 that no one can change his words but he allowed injeel to be corrupted,apply some sense abdool
So the corrupted book is teaches love and the so-called TRUE BOOK teaches hate and violence?
Just 1% he says and that too does not jeopardize the doctrines. Qur'an brings out doctrines entirely opposite to what new testament says.
Jesus never died.
Jesus is merely a human and not divine.
No belief in redemption by the sacrificial death and resurrection of Christ.
Work emphasized instead of grace.
No assurance of salvation.
These are just a few important doctrines among many where the new testament varies with Qur'an.
The kingdom of God continues to grow as told by our Lord and one day will swallow all kingdoms.
God says that every knee will bow and every tongue confess that Jesus is the Lord.
@@alethia_podcast What a terrible argument. Cope harder, boy
My cell phone is also hacked
This is precisely why Our Lord Jesus bestowed apostolic succession & authority as a crucial element for upholding the essential revelation of the divine truths of the scriptures. Its also why 'Sola Scriptura' is a laughable farce.
Excellent! Thank you! God bless you!
Having thousands of variant copies is actually better than having 1 original. If we only had 1, we wouldn't know if it had been corrupted, but by having thousands of copies, we can reconstruct the original with virtually 100% assurance. There's simply no way to alter the original, either by accident or on purpose, with the amount of copies we have. You'd somehow have to corrupt thousands of scribes, over different locations, over hundreds of years.
Thank you for yiur insight! I agree! Even the Early Church apologists and bishops whose written works are still extant to us today would help us reconstruct the Original New Testament. If the New Testament had been under corruption, yes, there would have been a significant number of textual variants that would contradict each other in both message and theology.
This is what I keep asking those who say Jesus name was changed and they add the apocrypha. We can trust we have holy scriptures
How do you know if you're correcting them or correcting them incorrectly?
If the other parts say 8 and the other say 18 then which one is the correct one or are both correct or incorrect?
Christian will always said they are authored by man inspired by holy Ghost believing that same Holy Ghost is perfect in anyway possible. So aren't the manuscript supposed to be perfect?
How it is easier to avoid contradiction when you have 1 original manuscript at the time of Jesus and his disciples compared to hundreds of thousands of manuscripts differentiate each other after many centuries?
The more variants the merrier, so long as they are not contradictory, and support each other. There are many anti Christian cults that use the thousands of N.T. variants and manuscripts as an excuse to claim Bible corruption and question the correctness of the Bible. Unfortunately, Satan first questioned God's word in Genesis 3:1, and has continued to do so today.
Mormons have their Book of Mormon, a fairytale, with no archeological proof, so the only defense of their Bible is to question the Christian Bible, cast doubt on it, since the Book of Mormon is contradictory to the Christian Bible in multiple dozens of verses.
The Jehova Witnesses Bible, "The New World Translation" is also flakey, since the committee that translated it was flakey. Hard to argue with cults, since they will pull out an inferior bible to argue their point. Nice to know that Jesus kept His promise, and preserved His word down through the ages. Christians can be confident they are reading God's true word when they read from the Bible.
@Together we 🏳️🌈⃠ when the original was written, of course there was only one, and it was perfect. But if we only had that one today, anyone could simply say, I don't believe that's the original. There would be no way to prove it. We would all be left wondering if it was the original or not. What we have instead is tens of thousands of copies, and by comparing all the manuscripts, we can very confidently reconstruct the original. Imagine ig 1000 people all had the same jigsaw puzzle, but each of them were missing a few pieces. If they all got together and shared their pieces, they could easily complete the puzzle. The Bible is a lot like that. There are very, few places where we are not sure what the original said and nothing in question affects any doctrine.
Who decided these manuscripts are divinely inspired? The Catholic church.
So, why use the manuscripts the Catholic church chose if you don't believe that the Catholic church has the divinely given sole authority to identify genuine scriptures or not?
Why not make their own selections?
I trust God.
Who is god ? 👀🤣😂🤣
2:00 I guarantee most people didn’t watch up to 2:00 before commencing.
People need to learn to listen….
I keep thinking about this whole, do he have the “original “ objection and iv basically come to see it that even if we ACTUALLY had the originals IN HAND, there would still be no way of knowing it for sure, even with carbon dating and textual criticism, this kind of investigative analysis only get us within “the year of” and thus leaves still a lot of room to posit some other original out there to be found.....
Witch leads me to my second thought, .... the only logically sound way of positing the “where are the originals” is if you yourself have positive evidence, that there ARE originals in the first place....
Why wouldn’t we ( in the modern era) only proceed forward with the OLDEST manuscript we have “AS THE ORIGINALS”.....🤷🏻♂️
Even if these scripts “talked” about events that happened before the scripts themselves were written...
We still can’t then assume that there are “earlier “ or originals to be found, because at some point you have to consider that the scripts are talking about events that happens in history’s...... it’s just like you going to the store last week for groceries happened in times past, therefore AN EVENT ..... at a point as you “go back “ these stories come “off the paper” and are in the mouths of people, just like 9/11 was in the mouths of people because it was an event that happened in history, so we talked about with each other after it happened and this is how the story was transmitted, and even today with TV and being able to watch the whole thing happening in real time, yet, people still have different accounts of the events that took place on 9/11....
In one thousand years from know, who’s “take” on the the things and events that transpired on 9/11 , do you think the people of that time will conclude on....? Mine or yours ?
And yet, like with Jesus, they all agree on ONE THING...... those towers.....were destroyed.
I.e ... Jesus died and he rose again.
Yep, there is probably more meaning alteration by the act of translation into other languages, including English which only have one word for love while Greek has 4 with distinctly different meanings. Languages do not have exactly the same concepts and nuances, but the essential truths and values come across as long as we don't get too pedantic analysing every nuance. Also, word meanings change over time and sometimes quite a lot. like the word sensible in English, the root of which is sense as in the 4 senses. Sensible was to do with emotions, an expression of sympathy, it originally had nothing to do with the mind. In term of bible translation, that particular word is irrelevant but it serves to illustrate the point that we need to update translations. We can't just keep using outdated language translations because that leads to errors in understanding.
Ken Webster ▪ You are contradicting yourself ▪ I'm wondering if you really know what you're talking about. Or did you just read it out of a book.
@@glennrobinson7193 No, not from a book. I read my post again and corrected some typos. There is no contradiction in my meaning, perhaps it's not clearly expressed. Please specify what you see as the contradiction.
Watch what Dr. Wallace says in this interview ua-cam.com/video/6zn1mvL4oHA/v-deo.html
@@ianofliverpool7701 What's you point? He is agreeing with me that there are manuscript variants, but they don't amount to any major conflict. The underlying & unstated assumption is that biblical scholars must and do study language variants over time to ensure they are indeed understanding the meaning within historical context. Those kinds of basic principle are generally not stated in any field of study, except to 1st year students of the field. Yes, there are differences, we know there are. No they don't amount to any serious conflict. Some deliberate alterations have been found, they are known and recognised for what they are. Eg: We suspect that the closing verses of Matthew are additions. Also the phrase "captives in his train" is misquoted or altered between the OT & NT. We know about that, it doesn't change the central message of salvation in Jesus one little bit.
None of these things are a big deal. Why do so many Christians deny these aberrations exist? They do exist, just own up to them and say, they don't amount to enough to matter. Just be honest!
Funny watch what Dr. Wallace says about the New Testament in this interview ua-cam.com/video/6zn1mvL4oHA/v-deo.html
The most important part is Jesus Christ is the way the truth and the life that’s the most important part that never changed
Please watch if you want the truth. ua-cam.com/video/aQyvDXHq-6Y/v-deo.html&feature=share
Safwan g please watch the video if you want the truth.ua-cam.com/video/aQyvDXHq-6Y/v-deo.html&feature=share
Safwan g Make you love Islam more? That’s a big LAUGH. The same one wrote the Koran that wrote the New Testament. 😂 The Roman Catholic Church related Christianity and Islam.
I don’t follow blindly. What this guy says is important
Came across a site called - doesgodexistandbeyond.com/manuscriptevidenceofthebiblepages/ looks at Manuscript History with Logic and Reason, using Primary Evidences. Also has information on other topics not well known. Worth a Read.
999 Fi ne Gold
Many parts of the Bible have been changed by certain people several times.
Read the Qur’an . The Qur’an is the Final Book ALLAH SENT to humankind. Not a letter has changed in the Qur’an.
Quran is garbage
Bravo, proper scholarly insight from a man of God who is clearly also a scholar.
The man said, the differences are small that they don’t affect doctrine. So Jesus is still God.
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Jesus is God ✝️: Answering Muslims ❤️
According to the Qur’an only Allah can forgive sins, but in (Luke 5:20) Jesus forgives sins.
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The Qur’an says only Allah is the ‘first and the last’ Jesus says that he is the first and the last in (Revelation 1:17-18).
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The Quran says only Allah will Judge mankind and allow people into Heaven, Jesus says that he will Judge the World and allow people into Heaven and Send people to Hell. (Matthew 25:31-46)
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The Quran says only Allah can raise the dead and only Allah will raise the Dead on Judgment day. Jesus raises Lazarus from the Dead (John 11:38-44) and Jesus says he will Raise himself up from the Dead on the Third Day in (John 2:19-21) and Jesus said that he will Raise the Dead on Judgement day (John 6:39)
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There are so many other examples, that show that Jesus is God. When someone can do only what God can do. We can assume that this person is more than just a man/teacher. But God in the flesh. God bless.
We Muslimeen believe Isa (“Jesus”) عليه السلام is a great Messenger of ALLAH . Isa (“Jesus”) عليه السلام never told people to worship him. He worshipped only ALLAH. Isa (“Jesus”) عليه السلام is a great human. A human eats food and drinks water. ALLAH CREATED us. ALLAH Doesn’t need anything. ALLAH doesn’t need anyone. We should worship ALLAH Alone. Do read the Qur’an
@@fiddah What you need to do is find a verse where Jesus said "Don't Worship me". People worshipped him and he never rebuked them. Jesus said:
John 5:23
English Standard Version
23 that all may honor the Son, just as they honor the Father. Whoever does not honor the Son does not honor the Father who sent him.
How were there so many people making copies? I thought almost everyone was illiterate at that time. How would we know if we found an original manuscript?
good question. and the answer is nobodoy knows the answer.. 😂
We may know the age of the manuscripts, the older, the better
So I Leon testify that 616 is the mark of the beast
Same with Torah tho. The Jewish Masoretic Torah disagrees with Samaritan Torah and Dead Sea scrolls
Your hearts will be filled with the truth of God, the Lord and The Holy Spirit, so anyone who is worried about not having the right Bible shouldn’t worry. It will be in your heart which you will follow if you are with Him. That is what I feel in my own heart. May God bless you.
You have not examined your Bible carefully enough as you would see that there are some key differences in some places that could alter the way you see certain prophecies. By and large, the main translations are good but people ought to make sure they aren’t being deceived by corrupt scholars who decided to go out on their own and write a useless translation with many corrupt verses.
You’d be amazed what one word can do to a prophecy of that word changes.
The Word of God will be in our hearts, indeed God does say that but God says faith comes from hearing and hearing the word of about Christ so what will happen to your heart if you have the wrong words about Christ in it?
I agree. A true seeker will find what they are looking for through discernment and prayer.
I write nothing in stone.
If there are worries about the Word, it means there is, no spirit to discern.. history is part of discernment: since God is a part of history, the Spirit will lead you and guide you in the way you should go!. What's the beef?
@@HappyHermitt
I don’t use prayer to find what I am looking for.
Don't believe Jesus had anything to fo with the god creator of everything an every being an the universe
How would we even know what is the "original" new testament is even "original. What proof do we have of anything in the Bible, none. You see, this is the reason one would have to " believe " in religion instead of knowing. We "know" nothing about any Bible. Belief is not knowing, but we let beliefs keep us from knowing the truth about ourselves.
Its changed thats why the quran was sent lol
theres a reason why the quran was sent because no preserved the orignal bible
Come to Islam
One problem though. How can you know, that you have an exact copy, when you don't know the original ? :)
Listen again to Dr Wallace!
@@saintleslie He explains how we can be sure, what's in the NT is accurate. But not, how we can be sure, that it matches the originals. It doesn't matter how many copies of copies of copies of copies you have, if you don't have the originals, you cannot be sure if the copies are accurate. And the most important things is, that it only proves the stories of the NT, not the events in it. So, it doesn't matter.
@@Jingleschmiede Perhaps, this will help you: www.michaeljkruger.com/is-the-original-text-of-the-new-testament-lost-rethinking-our-access-to-the-autographs/
Came across a site called - doesgodexistandbeyond.com/manuscriptevidenceofthebiblepages/ looks at Manuscript History with Reason and Logic using Primary Evidences. And has other topics with information not well known. Worth a Read.
Simply because it’s not the exact copy. God assigned people to protect it. And sace it but people didn’t want to, instead they did the opposite and it’s scripted now or specifically no one knows if his copy is the right one. The Quran came, free of wrong grammar, free of contradictory. Logical. Don’t go against our instincts
In my humble opinion, it doesn't make any, any sense the believe that babies "inherit" the sins of anyone. It is absurd, makes no sense, it is irrelevant to anything. How and why a newborn must come to the world "sinful"; it is the thought of sick minds with the intention of hooking-up people. Gullible minds think they are "dirty" with the sin of two imagined people that wanted to "know the difference between good and bad (plus how can they tell the difference between a god and a bad spirit if unable to discriminate)" as such sin is transmited from generation to generation WITH WHAT PURPOSE? The reason WHY it is a dogma is because if you QUESTION with a rational mind such believe, it would make NO sense. And the ones who made up this absurd story was to make people believe they were "sick" and that the "church" had the remedy for such sickness. So now you must obey the "authorities" to avoid HELL. It was a political move to control people (i.e.: "Obey the authorities or you shall be condemned", Romans 13:1-7 --- There are 15 Verses about obedience to human authorities -- Titus, Mark, Peter, Matthew... Etc. People in Germany in the '30s and '40s did obey the authorities... The Russian people had to obey the authorities under the communist party?; Nicolás Maduro? Bolsonaro?). This institution makes you believe you are sick and infuses fear of an eternal punishment by burning FOREVER IF YOU DON'T COMPLY. Plus didn't Christ die to "wash away our sins"? THE ABSURDITY OF IT IS SO GROTESQUE THAT ONE COULD WONDER UP TO WHAT POINT THE MIND IS PLASTIC AND MALEABLE, where it can believe just about ANYTHING.
TYNDALE....CATHOLISM MERDERED TYNDALE.....MAIN BOOKS WRITEN IN HEBREW YOU CAN TRUST FOR MY GOD IS A JEW......ARAMAIC...YESHUAS LANGUAGE......
I truly believe the books that are in the bible are meant to be in the bible...Jesus knows the past present and future and he knew what would happen...God has wisdom beyond human understanding...with that being said what is in the bible today I truly believe is meant to be there...
John 21:25
And there are also many other things which Jesus did, the which, if they should be written every one, I suppose that even the world itself could not contain the books that should be written. Amen.
Thanks for this verse
Amen
The Bible has lots of errors, made by humans.
You're free to believe what you want, however, I disagree with the point that "Jesus knows the past present and future and he knew what would happen". If you read Mark 13:32
"But about that day or hour no one knows, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father. Clearly, the Knowalafe of Jesus is not like the knowledge of God 'The father'
@Fahad Al We don’t advocate for Jesus we can’t grasp his or the father’s thoughts we read his promises and the warning signs he gives us and we’re supposed to be ready for his coming at any moment
Like have y’all actually watch the video, it says that these textual barriers are minimal there most likely errors of writing, they do not affect the actual message of the gospels!
Exactly
No one is denying most of the errors are due to human errors but on the other hand there are plenty of intenstional additions and subtraction in the bible which isn't no found in the earliest copies. Like 1 john 5:7. There are also clear contradictions in the NT on how to obtain salvation. You have Paul saying dont follow the ten commandments ony have faith in crucifixion and resurrection but on the other hand you have jesus saying follow the ten commandments and you will get eternal life. So yes the NT is corrupted and we can't regard as the word of God.
@@abdulkadirhassanahmed956 Jesus was making an example that mere man following the law in order to earn salvation was impossible due to our flawed, sinful nature. He then said right afterward this:
Mark 10:26-27
They were greatly astounded and said to one another, “Then who can be saved?” Jesus looked at them and said, “For mortals it is impossible, but not for God; for God all things are possible.”
@@sponge6171 read these two bible verses in parallel and tell me that they don't contradict on whether Christians(i.e gentiles or non-Jews Christians) adapt or uphold the ten commandments.
ephesians 2:15 vs Mathew 5:17-20
Paul vs jesus
@@abdulkadirhassanahmed956 In Matthew 5:17-20, Jesus is not saying that carrying out the law itself determines salvation. He is emphasizing that the law is good, but also saying how the righteousness of the law was being/going to be fulfilled/completed in Him. This rendered certain ceremonial and symbolic laws as an example no longer necessary for the Church, but general moral laws are still important for this new group of diverse people all across the nations who would soon enter the Church. The Pharisees and keepers of the law were, externally and according to their works, the most righteous anyone could get by themselves. They worshipped the law, but did not worship God. Ironic how their worship of the law became pride, the greatest thing which separates man from God, and this led to Jesus's crucifixion. Jesus is saying here that those who want to see the kingdom of heaven must be more righteous than the scribes and Pharisees. No matter how hard they tried through their own works in the law apart from God, they fell short. That's why we require Christ's grace and faith that he fulfilled the law through his righteousness and absolute, sinless perfection.
Ephesians 2:15 is saying a similar thing, abolish in it's original Greek literally meaning "render inoperative." Paul says here that the purpose of the law has been completed, its purposes being to reveal God's character to Israel, distinguish them from all the other nations, show them their sinfulness and how short they fall from God's standard of perfection, provide forgiveness through sacrifice, and other things, these purposes having been witnessed and described throughout Christ's life, death, and resurrection. The verse also details how Israel/the Church consists of both Jew and Gentile, Christ having made a peace between them and a new body being made from their peace and joining together which is the Church.
The "laws" which haven't been rendered obsolete are not just laws. These are good things, important, vital things such as not murdering, giving the the poor and needy, showing love to your neighbor and even your enemy, having patience and being slow to anger, staying humble and not boasting. These are things which only God can convict you of and bring into your heart. It is not works which earn salvation, but salvation which naturally causes one to want to do these works and share the kingdom of heaven and the character of God with others in this way. The only real meaningful decision I can make as a mere mortal man is to trust and believe in Christ and that he will use me for his greater purposes. Father, Son, Holy Spirit, these are all different faces of the one true God in order to help us understand his transcendent, infinite complexity yet immanent, personal relational desire as witnessed amongst these three "faces" of himself. He is so unimaginably big yet so incredibly close to his children. I've felt his warmth and touch.
Also the word "abolish" in Matthew 5:17-20 is different from the "abolish" in Ephesians 2:15, the one Matthew more meaning "destroy" in the original Greek and the one on Ephesians more meaning "render inoperative" as previously said. Jesus didn't destroy the law, but fulfilled it, rendering certain parts no longer necessary as previously stated, but the general important stuff is still there until heaven and earth disappear and sin has no dwelling in the new heaven and new earth.
Certainly this can be said of all ancient writings. Scholars who study ancient texts, known as textual critics, compare and analyze these manuscript copies to determine the most accurate and reliable version of the text. They examine differences between manuscripts, consult references made by ancient authors, and use other tools and methods to reconstruct the original text to the best of their abilities.
They never planned this, but for the Quran you can take the oldest one and one from one and they will always match up but this can never be do with the bible
@@sugar- And there are clear, understandable, historical reasons for this.
Can’t be said for the Quran. The Birmingham Quran is dating from the lifetime of the Prophet Muhammad and is the same as the one we have today 😊
@raeglizzie9613 Here we go with more fantasies. #1) Even if the oldest manuscript is identical to copies that exist today, that doesn't mean the words are true or that they came from God. #2) the Birmingham manuscript is ONLY ONE SHEET OF TEXT! Stop making it sound like it's the entire Quran. #3) The claim that modern Bibles differ from the ancient manuscripts is deceptive since unlike the Quran which is simply copied because it was written in Arabic and people still speak Arabic, nobody speaks Paleo Hebrew or Koine Greek, so the bible is translated into modern languages. Therefore the real issue is accuracy of translation RATHER THAN IDENTICAL COPYING, and we already have the ancient biblical manuscripts themselves and we simply create facsimiles to preserve them. (So, in reality, we do have copies and they're 100% identical to the original source)
"The Birmingham Quran manuscript is a single sheet of parchment on which two leaves of an early Quranic manuscript or muṣḥaf have been written. In 2015 the manuscript, which is held by the University of Birmingham, was radiocarbon dated to between 568 and 645 CE (in the Islamic calendar, between 56 BH and 25 AH)."
"One of the most respected Old Testament scholars, the late Gleason Archer, examined the two Isaiah scrolls found in Cave 1 and wrote, “Even though the two copies of Isaiah discovered in Qumran Cave 1 near the Dead Sea in 1947 were a thousand years earlier than the oldest dated manuscript previously known (A.D. 980), they proved to be word for word identical with our standard Hebrew Bible in more than 95 percent of the text. The five percent of variation consisted chiefly of obvious slips of the pen and variations in spelling.”
The real test in determining the trustworthiness and accuracy of the Quran in regards to the prophecies allegedly received by Mohammad, lies in examining their original transmission and codification, not the preservation of a final edit.
5. Anas bin Malik's Account of the Collection of the Qur'an: Hadith 510
The following things are proven from Hadith 510:
There were differing versions of the Qur'an in the early years of Islam.
Uthman ordered the Qur'an compiled into one volume.
Some of the manuscripts were not in Muhammad's original tongue and needed to be translated.
Uthman ordered competing versions to be burned, indicating that there were other versions in existence at the time!
There was only one man who remembered one of the verses of the Qur'an.
510. Narrated Anas bin Malik: Hudhaifa bin Al-Yaman came to Uthman at the time when the people of Sham and the people of Iraq were waging war to conquer Arminya and Adharbijan. Hudhaifa was afraid of their (the people of Sham and Iraq) differences in the recitation of the Quran. So he said to Uthman, "O chief of the believers! Save this nation before they differ about the Book (Quran) as Jews and the Christians did before." So Uthman sent a message to Hafsa saying, "Send us the manuscripts of the Quran so that we may compile the Quranic materials in perfect copies and return the manuscripts to you." Hafsa sent it to Uthman. Uthman then ordered Zaid bin Thabit, "Abdullah bin Az-Zubair, Said bin Al-As and Abdur Rahman bin Harith bin Hisham to rewrite the manuscripts in perfect copies. Uthman said to the three Quraishi men, "In case you disagree with Zaid bin Thabit on any point in the Quran, then write it in the dialect of Quraish as the Quran was revealed in their tongue." They did so, and when they had written many copies, Uthman returned the original manuscripts to Hafsa. Uthman sent to every Muslim province one copy of what they had copied, and ordered that all the other Quranic materials, whether written in fragmentary manuscripts or whole copies, be burnt. Zaid bin Thabit added, "A verse from Surat Ahzab was missed by me when we copied the Quran and I used to hear Allah's Apostle (SAW) reciting it. So we searched for it and found it with Khuzaima bin Thabit Al-Ansari. (That Verse was): 'Among the Believers are men who have been true in their covenant with Allah.' (33:23) Vol. 6 -Virtues of the Quran - Hadith 510
6. Contrary to Muslim claims, some verses had not been memorized by everyone: Hadith 511
511. Narrated Zaid bin Thabit: Abu Bakr sent for me and said "you used to write the Divine Revelations for Allah's Apostle (SAW): So you should search for (the Quran and collect) it." I started searching for the Quran till I found the last two Verses of Surat At-Tauba with Abi Khazaima Al-Ansari and I could not find these Verses with anybody other than him. (They were): 'Verily there has come unto you an Apostle (Muhammad (SAW)) from amongst yourselves. It grieves him that you should receive any injury or difficulty. . . (9:128-129) Vol. 6 -Virtues of the Quran - Hadith 511
7. There seems to be a conflict in the claims as to when the Qur'an was collected, and there was not a generally accepted version available: Hadith 525 & 526
525. Narrated Qatada: I asked Anas bin Malik, "Who collected the Quran at the time of the Prophet (SAW)?" He replied, "Four, all of whom were from the Ansar: Ubai bin Kab, Muadh bin Jabal, Zaid bin Thabit and Abu Zaid." Vol. 6 -Virtues of the Quran - Hadith 525
526. Narrated Anas (bin Malik): When the prophet (SAW) died, none had collected the Quran but four persons: Abu Ad-Darda, Muadh bin Jabal, Zaid bin Thabit and Abu Zaid. We were the inheritors (of Abu Zaid) as he had no offspring. Vol. 6 -Virtues of the Quran - Hadith 526
8. Zaid bin Thabit's Third Account of the Collection of the Qur'an: Hadith 301
The following things are proven from Hadith 301:
Caliph Uthman ordered the Qur'an compiled into one volume.
The Qur'an was not collected during Muhammad's lifetime.
Zaid had to be persuaded to do that which the Prophet had not doen.
There was only one man who remembered some of the verses of the Qur'an.
301. Narrated Zaid bin Thabit: Abu Bakr sent for me owing to the large number of casualties in the battle of Al-Yamama, while Umar was sitting with him. Abu Bakr said (to me), "Umar has come to me and said, 'A great number of Qaris of the Holy Quran were killed on the day of the battle of Al-Yamama, and I am afraid that the casualties among the Qaris of the Quran may increase on the battle-fields whereby a large part of the Quran may be lost. Therefore I consider it advisable that you (Abu Bakr) should have the Quran collected.' I said, 'How dare I do something which Allah's Apostle (SAW) did not do?' Umar said, 'By Allah, it is something beneficial.' Umar kept on pressing me for that till Allah opened my chest for that for which He had opened the chest of Umar and I had in that matter, the same opinion as Umar had." Abu Bakr then said to me (Zaid), "You are a wise young man and we do not have any suspicion about you, and you used to write the Divine Inspiration for Allah's Apostle (SAW). So you should search for (the fragmentary script of) the Quran and collect it (in one Book)." Zaid further said: By Allah, if Abu Bakr had ordered me to shift a mountain among the mountains from one place to another it would not have been heavier for me than this ordering me to collect the Quran. Then I said (to Umar and Abu Bakr), "How can you do something which Allah's Apostle (SAW) did not do?" Abu Bakr said, "By Allah, it is something beneficial." Zaid added: So he (Abu Bakr) kept on pressing me for that until Allah opened my chest for that for which He had opened the chests of Abu Bakr and Umar, and I had in that matter, the same opinion as theirs. So I started compiling the Quran by collecting it from the leafless stalk of the date-palm tree and from the pieces of leather and hides and from the stones, and from the chests of men (who had memorized the Quran). I found the last Verses of Surat-at-Tauba: 'Verily there has come unto you an Apostle (Muhammad (SAW)) from amongst yourselves.' (9:128-129), from Khuzaima or Abi Khuzaima and I added to it the rest of the Sura. The manuscript of the Quran remained with Abu Bakr till Allah took him unto Him. Then it remained with Umar till Allah took him unto Him, and then with Hafsa bint Umar. Vol. 9 - Judgements - Hadith 301
God watches over His word💥
zondervans parent compay harper collins prints the satanic bible and the joy of gay sex - so consider the source. Oh yes the Lord can preserve his words.
I'm so glad I never said I was Jesus Christ in 2023
*You can’t and further the New Testament never claims to be Scripture nor do it’s authors ever claim to be inspired or use phrases that one sees in the Old Testament such as “Thus says the Lord,” “the Word of the Lord”. St. Paul even says in two of his letters “I have no command from the Lord, but this is my opinion” & “I am writing to you with a human argument, not as the Lord speaks”*
*Moreover, for those Christians who say that only the original manuscripts are inspired and not the apographs or translations, then what makes their sermons, prayers, and worship have any validity since they are not in the Biblical Hebrew or Greek*
Finally, a smart man. When people translate something they do it in a way where they can understand it the best. Each manuscripts may have different ways of spelling or added a small amount of detail of understanding for the reader. But they all point to ONE message which is Christ Jesus is Lord 🙌🏾. The message of The Gospel is literally the point of the Gospel. All the manuscripts teach the same teachings of Christ and his purpose on earth.
If one manuscript said Jesus was just a man there would be a problem. If another said he wasn’t messiah nor did he preform signs there will also be a problem. If one manuscript differed from what Jesus taught in the gospels there would be another problem. But none of them differ from the purpose and message of the gospels🙌🏾
How did you know that the manuscripts have the same message and do not differ in this respect?
"If one manuscript said Jesus was just a man there would be a problem."
Yes, which is exactly why they didn't canonize the Gospel of Thomas, which can be interpreted as such.
You're putting the cart before the horse: the Canonical Gospels were selected from existing manuscripts because they agreed with a canonical Orthodox view when Orthodoxy happened which caused enforcing that canon by heavy persecution, the Gospels didn't cause the canonization so you can say "oh look how perfect they align"(PS: which they still don't really, Mark has a differing Christology than Matthew and Luke and was a source of adoptionist heresies). 'On Heresy' by Irenaeus is very clear on that.
@@malchir4036The Book of Thomas wasn’t considered canonical by the early churches, but rather heretical, according the 4th century church historian Eusebius. This was mainly because the Book of Thomas was a gnostic gospel and only appeared much later, claiming to represent secret knowledge that had previously been hidden.
It would be more accurate to say that it was never included in the New Testament canon than to say it was removed.
Actually those are the words of Paul not the saying of Jesus. Jesus wasn't his name to begin nor did he preach god three in one. He preach monotheism same as the prophet before him.
@@quranicverses.2394 what was his name then
You are right that why all Christian they are confused.
Exactly. All Christians are lead astray. Confused is an understatement.
Did you watch the video? He talked about how these little changes don’t affect doctrine.
@@saranwright7113 uhm.. I literally heard that this "Bible" was written by Simondis in 1839..
Jesus didnt preach in greek nor did he put pen to paper. We really don’t know what Jesus truly said and what words were effectively ‘put in his mouth’. Would not the Lord of the whole universe even think to leave the legacy of a personally bona fide written text from himself considering he went to all the effort of visiting earth? Instead the NT is a biography of third hand testimonies largely written by people whose identities are unknown. And it wouldn’t be written in greek. It would be Aramaic.
and would the lord of the whole universe have a fake german sounding based name like jesus? The name that is above all names didn't even exist until the 2nd printing of the 1611 kjv.
Is the OT not also a written account of the Isrealites, a bloodline history, a history of conquests of lands and peoples?
@@joimeeker3174 it is a written account based on what the catholic church thinks the Hebrew texts say.
God requires of us faith, why leave proof???How do you know Jesus didn't preach in Greek?were u there? Again, FAITH.
@@joimeeker3174 because all the top biblical scholars say Jesus spoke Aramaic although he is likely to have known some greek that would not have been his everyday lingua. But as you believe so much in blind faith, you therefore have no argument against a hindu or someone who believes in roman mythology. Gotta have faith right? Forget sense and reason.
"Corrupt"? "Mistakes"? That assumes that there was some INcorrupt, TRUE original. Why should anyone assume that? There may not even have been any original, let alone incorrupt ones, but if there were, they were set down to the best of their ability, the same way the copyists copied: to the best of their ability. They corrected, filled out, left out, and generally edited in order to make the best book to do the job. There's no reason to think they did a worse job for their readership than predecessors -- originators, if you like -- did for theirs.
Heaven and earth shall pass away: but my words shall not pass away. (Jesus Christ, Son of God) (Mark 13:31)
The words of the LORD are pure words: as silver tried in a furnace of earth, purified seven times. Thou shalt keep them, O LORD, thou shalt preserve them from this generation for ever. (Psalms 12:6-7)
Every word of God is pure: he is a shield unto them that put their trust in him. Add thou not unto his words, lest he reprove thee, and thou be found a liar. (Proverbs 30:5-6)
For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book: And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.(Revelation 22:18-19)
But is that the ORIGINAL text?? 😕 Stop deflecting please
Look in the Christian teaching how many religion that you have and every religion different teaching different bible
How can we trust and follow Bible when we don't know which version is correct?
See comment, Daniel Gittelson (Hitler would had known that I WAS A JEW),
"UNTO THE JEW FIRST IS THE GOSPEL OFFERED, and THEN TO THE GENTILE, FOR SALVATION COMES THROUGH THE JEWS"...
IF YOU DO NOT BELIEVE BECAUSE OF THE Shema Yisrael, "Hear, O Israel: the LORD is our God, the LORD is one", Not Three? Consider WATER, my Brother; Water is known to exist in three different states; as a solid, liquid or gas; THREE (3) MANIFESTATIONS, ONE ESSENCE,
LOVE ❤, DANIEL
Many parts of the Bible have been changed by certain people several times.
Read the Qur’an . The Qur’an is the Final Book ALLAH SENT to humankind. Not a letter has changed in the Qur’an.
We Muslimeen believe Isa (“Jesus”) عليه السلام is a great Messenger of ALLAH . Isa (“Jesus”) عليه السلام never told people to worship him. He worshipped only ALLAH. Isa (“Jesus”) عليه السلام is a great human. A human eats food and drinks water. ALLAH CREATED us. ALLAH Doesn’t need anything. ALLAH doesn’t need anyone. We should worship ALLAH Alone. Do read the Qur’an
Did you not even watch the video?
@@fiddahyou realize it’s a fact that the New Testament is historically accurate and the most attested historical document lmao, so no it’s not changed
Psalm 12:6-7 The words of the Lord are pure words: as silver tried in a furnace of earth, purified seven times. [7] Thou shalt keep them, O Lord, thou shalt preserve them from this generation for ever.
So no real proof? Got it!
Maara Gould
The word Lord is not in original manuscripts it also means Baal
Baal means Lord and Baalzubub means Lord of the flies
Even Strong's Bible Concordance and Young's Bible Concordance confirms that Baal means Lord
Lord is also connected to the Roman gods Lars/Larth, Loride and Lordo plus other gods are called Lord and British Politicians are called British Lords
Plus the Creator's true name was removed from the scriptures including the Messiah's true name and it is against the scriptures to subtract and add to the scriptures this also means that we cannot change the names but man changed the Messiah's name to Jesus which comes from the root of Yeshu and Yeshu means to boot out and Obliterate the Messiah's name and Memory
Jesus is also spelled Hesus in Tagalog language even though Hesus was the name of a Celtic God who was also called Esus Hesus and Aesus
Too bad "God's" word is corrupted, mistranslated, full of errors and contradictions.
@@LiberatedMind1 nice to the know the Qur'an isn't tho,the oldest verses of the Qur'an were found in 2015 in a library in a Birmingham university and they are the exact same as the verses in the Qur'an of today,BBC news,which is the British state funded news channel,even said that the verses were the exact same and they're radio carbon dated to the time of prophet Muhammad
ua-cam.com/video/ePRg1q4sbYQ/v-deo.html Is Jeremiah's prophecy about Christ
The bible under Constatine changed things
Thanks God we muslims rely on one book that is learned word by word cover to cover by more than 100 million people around the world. We dont need to rely on a bunch of scribes. Al hamdoulilah
The original wasnt even in english ...and sometimes the same word in to different languages mean different things
Many people knew the different languages of the day. Nothing to worry about. The small differences don’t take away from the main doctrine.
@@bornagainalex2250 Johannine Comma is not in the Codex Sinaiticus even in Codex Vaticanus yet it was added in the King James Bible. They added this to promote the Holy Trinity and Godhead is a major doctrine.
The New Testament is primarily Paul's gospel and the changes that the councils did. Councils of nicea, constantinople, and antioch. They totally changed the message. They moved the sabbath, imagine that. Imagine the audacity of moving the Sabbath.
Islamic ignorance is bottomless. Like the variants in all the Korans.
Interesting, but what about King James rewriting the Bible in 1604
I wonder how many changes he made that affects Christianity today.
the bible is not a trustworthy source. King james developed it for political reasons, and there are lots of errors as well as lots of additions not found in the many manuscripts
There is only ONE Qur’an.
Many parts of the Bible have been changed by certain people several times. Read the Qur’an . The Qur’an is the Final Book ALLAH SENT to humankind. Not a letter has changed in the Qur’an. There is ONLY ONE Qur’an.
The Qur’an has been memorized by several people.
الحَمدُ لله
@@fiddah I don't think I agree with the quran either or even other religions. I believe in living your life in a good manner without harming or enforcing a belief on to others.
@@fiddahthat’s your stance on that ? That because there is one it must be the one truth ? It is just translated in order for the reader to read.I am the first one to point out a contradiction or lie and I haven’t found one in the Bible yet.The Quran is so obviously based off of the flaws of the flesh.Sorry but that is the truth.
@@aliciahernandez8198 did you read quran brother?
So we don't have no buying no bond to no Bible
Because there's a sub language in scriptures. That keep it right . its the translators that you can't trust.
As a Muslim, I always wonder about this. Muslim read Quran in arabic all around the world no other way, Jews read Torah in hebrew all around the world no other way. So why Bible are translated into many languages and many versions...? Do you guys have ever questioning why they made version after version..? Like, how can words of God be revised again and again.
You're right
Jesus spoke Aramaic
Hebrew, Aramaic and Arabic are very similar, really fascinating!
Came across a site called - doesgodexistandbeyond.com/manuscriptevidenceofthebiblepages/ looks at Manuscript History with Reason and Logic using Primary Evidences. And has other topics with information not well known. Worth a Read.
God, from the beginning wanted his word to be available to all the nations, so the translation follows his wisdom of making revelation available to all not just a group of people who speak one language. The Bible is Bible in all languages, not just in Hebrew, Aramaic and Greek. And we are grateful for that!
@@gabrielaprofetaphillips1740 Torah came of Hebrew(Moses speak Hebrew).The Coran of Arabic(Muhammad(sws)speak of Arabic.Jesus spoke of Aramaic but the New Testament is of Greek Language.
Lol Christians talk about different spelling of the Quranic Text, however the texts of their books are different😂
1:57 Did you listen to that??
The man said, the differences are small that they don’t affect doctrine. So Jesus is still God.
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Jesus is God ✝️: Answering Muslims ❤️
According to the Qur’an only Allah can forgive sins, but in (Luke 5:20) Jesus forgives sins.
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The Qur’an says only Allah is the ‘first and the last’ Jesus says that he is the first and the last in (Revelation 1:17-18).
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The Quran says only Allah will Judge mankind and allow people into Heaven, Jesus says that he will Judge the World and allow people into Heaven and Send people to Hell. (Matthew 25:31-46)
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The Quran says only Allah can raise the dead and only Allah will raise the Dead on Judgment day. Jesus raises Lazarus from the Dead (John 11:38-44) and Jesus says he will Raise himself up from the Dead on the Third Day in (John 2:19-21) and Jesus said that he will Raise the Dead on Judgement day (John 6:39)
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There are so many other examples, that show that Jesus is God. When someone can do only what God can do. We can assume that this person is more than just a man/teacher. But God in the flesh. God bless.
With Gods help.
God bless everyone. As a former Christian I am appalled that the speaker or anyone could suggest that none of these corruptions/errors impact doctrine. The most important part of doctrine is affected - the Authority and integrity of scripture. How can anyone knowing this say the Bible is from God? When did the bar become so low?!
Listen again. You missed the whole point. He said over 99% agreed on the main issues. The variants were different spellings of names etc, and are of no significant importance. You know it came from God because He speaks directly to His children by His Spirit through the Scriptures. That should pretty well explain why you aren't getting it. You aren't His child by your own admission, so it is "foolishness" to you.
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With Gods help.
God bless you. I will ignore your attempts at insults and think the best of you because our Prophet Muhammad (Gods peace and blessings be upon him) taught us to do so.
You acknowledge an estimated 1% of errors are beyond different spellings? If you are content with any imperfection from a book that is supposed to be from The Perfect One (God The Creator and Beautiful Sustainer) then have it. Within the Bible there are gross and glaring imperfections that prove the Bible in it current corrupted form is no longer the word of God. God does not contradict or tell untruths. The Bible is the word of unknown anonymous men with their own agendas and opinions and imperfections. For this reason never is it said in the Bible I am God and I revealed this book - the Bible. Most Christians are only Christians because they were born that way and they don’t want to change their religion even though they know the Bible is seriously flawed. Read the the numerical contradictions in the Old Testament or the contradictory genealogies of Jesus ( peace be upon him) in Matthew and Luke. The Quran is truly from God and does not have these problems. Ask God for guidance, Read, Think and reflect if you are sincere in worshiping in truth. God bless.
The man said, the differences are small that they don’t affect doctrine. So Jesus is still God.
Jesus is God ✝️: Answering Muslims ❤️
According to the Qur’an only Allah can forgive sins, but in (Luke 5:20) Jesus forgives sins.
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The Qur’an says only Allah is the ‘first and the last’ Jesus says that he is the first and the last in (Revelation 1:17-18).
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The Quran says only Allah will Judge mankind and allow people into Heaven, Jesus says that he will Judge the World and allow people into Heaven and Send people to Hell. (Matthew 25:31-46)
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The Quran says only Allah can raise the dead and only Allah will raise the Dead on Judgment day. Jesus raises Lazarus from the Dead (John 11:38-44) and Jesus says he will Raise himself up from the Dead on the Third Day in (John 2:19-21) and Jesus said that he will Raise the Dead on Judgement day (John 6:39)
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There are so many other examples, that show that Jesus is God. When someone can do only what God can do. We can assume that this person is more than just a man/teacher. But God in the flesh. God bless.
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Is it not part of Protestant doctrine that the Bible has inerrancy? If the Bible has any error at all the Bible is not perfect and any book that is imperfect is not fit to be the word of God. So what then is the purpose of the Bible? How can you accept this guidance and trust the Bible for your life’s choices and ideas? You are grasping at straws. Ask God to guide you toward His book and continue your search for Truth. I did and it led me to Islam and feel so blessed and at peace. God bless.
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With God help
Who cares what Bible says today when it is full of error? We don’t even know who wrote the books. And whoever was in charge of preserving and copying it failed. Sorry this book is a collection of opinions from anonymous writers. That is part of the reason its preservation was not assured. The copiers knew it was no big deal to make mistakes. You would never find this kind of neglect and complacency with the Quran because it is clear the Quran is from The One and only God!
The variants the mistranslations an the very fact the left books out kinda says it all doesn't it
your phrases I,m sure and I,m pretty convinced. Maybe another says something like I,m not sure and not convinced. So are you the final authority? Just asking!
You know, a few things that always baffles me is... After thousands of years, Christianity is still here. So many non believers say that Christianity is “built on the sand”. Mhhh, then how is it still the most prominent religion after 2000 years? Pretty strong sand if you ask me. Another thing is why did it even become so big? If a religion exploded into something as huge as it is today, there’s probably a reason why. A few people believed in Jesus, and there were a lot of non believers. And then everyone believed in it out of nowhere. Why? Why did Saul of Taurus who killed Christians became Paul, one of the greatest apostles proclaiming that Jesus in the son of God? Maybe because it actually happened. There’s a whole other thing with the embarrassment of the Bible. Everything written was embarrassing to whom wrote it. They all said they were dull and didn’t understand Jesus’ teachings, that the disbelieved Him, that women found the tomb (who would not be considered reliable sources) why would they say they found the tomb empty? It all makes them look weak and stupid. Listen if you’re trying to kickstart a religion, you aren’t going to put that you denied the main person of your religion in there. It’s all too humbling. Even if we don’t have the original manuscripts. Even if the copies are off. The conclusion is the same in all the copies. If I say “break a leg” and “good luck”. Guess what. You know what they both mean. The actual wordage might be off, but the message is the exact same. The stories maybe have a ton of little contractions and mistakes. But it doesn’t change the story. It’s just dumb to deny it. Even Islam recognizes Jesus for what He did. They just said he wasn’t the son of God. But they still said He performed miracles and did all the miraculous things that it said He did in the Bible. Why? Because it’s true. It just is. All these religions are centered around Jesus Christ. It’s a fact.
The entire pantheon of Greek/Roman gods were no match for a homeless Jew executed as a common criminal.
Rome adopted Christianity because they had no choice. The Truth unveiled and spread uncontrollably. The satanic beast system, which still exists today, had no other option but to demote their gods and allow the people to worship Christ.
Yea...they almost certainly did some tinkering, but they would never would have even been put in such a position of having to care about this peasant story in the first place if it wasn’t true.
@ CowpokeConnoreer
Which isnt hard to explain at all, since its foundation lies it being a state religion, which was spread and forced down by sword and indoctrination. Thats how it managed to survive and it being lucky enough to be around at the right time. Nor does the fact its still around says eaything about it being the so called truth. It doesnt matter whatever time periode you take all civilizations with their religions couldnt inmagine their religion would ever be replaced, but sooner or later it will happen. Which will also happen to your copy paste christianity.
Brother Adnan explains the difference in islam and christianity about Jesus pbuh and why you should believe Islam has the right answer btw by saying all these religions only christains and muslims accepts Jesus pbuh...watch the video until the end ua-cam.com/video/pcVu9laSX9E/v-deo.html
John 14: 21 He who has My (Jesus) commandments and keeps them is the one who loves Me; and he who loves Me will be loved by My Father, and I will love him and will disclose Myself to him.” 22 Judas (not Iscariot) *said to Him, “Lord, what then has happened that You are going to disclose Yourself to us and not to the world?” 23 Jesus answered and said to him, “If anyone loves Me, he will keep My word; and My Father will love him, and We will come to him and make Our abode with him. 24 He who does not love Me does not keep My words; and the word which you hear is not Mine, but the Father’s who sent Me.
John 21: 24 This is the disciple who is testifying to these things and wrote these things, and we know that his testimony is true. 25 And there are also many other things which Jesus did, which if they *were written in detail, I suppose that even the world itself *would not contain the books that *would be written.
1 John 3: 22 and whatever we ask we receive from Him, because we keep His commandments and do the things that are pleasing in His sight.
Where can one start reading the Bible?
John (4th Scripture of the New Testament) and/or Acts of the Apostles (5th Scripture of the New Testament)
Romans 6: 23 For the wages of sin is death, but the free gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord.
@@bartleon Jesus pbuh never claimed he was God or told people to worship him anywhere in the bible so stop pushing these arguments in our throats man HE WAS HUMAN LIKE HE SAYS IN THE BIBLE and he was praying and worshipping his creator !!! GOD DOESNT WORSHIP ANOTHER GOD.
Bible to me is now a good story book written by many auther
So what ? you are saying changed but nothings changed when you know God and Grace. the rest is history is history. Gods spirit will tell a believer.
copies and copies variations😅 but the essence ❤Jesus born died and rose again to life as a ransom for many who find eternity is authentic😊😁🙄
The copying was done meticulously, any mistake was thrown into the rubbish heap....
Thats why the dead sea scrolls vindicate the textus receptus ....
Word for Word....
You just shouldn't trust them, and just follow the only truely reserved the Holy Quran.
Lol, stupid quran
Quran is just a creation of muhammed
Allah, isa, ibraham, ismail they all are just a creation of muhammed.
@@jeswinamosphilip you just showed who is the stupid one.
Holy Spirit guides in to truth and makes the red line very clear.
God stooped down in Christ to give us freely, by His own all atoning Holy Blood and indwelling Holy Spirit, the divine life back, the first Adam lost in the fall of man. God has already come full circle.
Hence the healing miracles with Christians who understands...
@@ToninoterRessort all prophets did miracles
@@h3w45 true. But none of them healed all like Jesus did and explained what Jesus explained.
The Gospel is about the free gift of righteousness and the free gift of godliness from a loving God.
His own pure Holy blood is the perfect atonement for the fall of man.
His own Spirit guides us into truth and transforms us back to godliness.
It is the ultimate conclusion from a loving God.
After all we were made according to His Image and likeness in Genesis.
God came full circle.
Ponder upon it. It is perfect, beautifull, complete. God/Jesus is amazing.
People "trust" the Bible when it agrees with what they already believe.
TRUMP FOREVER!!!!!!!!!!!!
@Dinnington Security I imagine they feel about the Quran the way Christians do about the Bible. They follow parts and ignore others. Muslims believe the Bible is the word of God revealed to Moses, David and Jesus. And the Quran is also but revealed to Muhammad.
@Dinnington Security there is only one way to find out. If there is contradiction in any holy book like the torah, bible, quran, veda, etc, then trash that book.
We trust the Bible because it is backed up by over 1.6 million early manuscripts which make up a combined 25.000 ancient complete copies plus thousands of writings about them from the early church fathers nothing to do with blind trust.
If you don`t believe the validity of the New Testament then you must also not believe anything that was written before the invention of the Print press.
@@ianofliverpool7701 I trust people wrote things and other people copied those things and other people copied those copies, etc., etc., and translated those copies of copies and along the way things changed. And someone else looked at all those different versions of different stories and decided which ones to put together in "The Bible" and which ones to leave out. Have you ever read poetry that was originally not in English but has been translated? Sometimes the translated poetry still rhymes. Just imagine how much the translator changed those poems to make the English translation still rhyme. You can enjoy those translated poems but you should realize that those are not the poems that the original poet actually wrote. And even if they were different readers can interpret those poems differently.
اِنَّا نَحۡنُ نَزَّلۡنَا الذِّكۡرَ وَاِنَّا لَهٗ لَحٰـفِظُوۡنَ
Indeed, it is We who sent down the Qur'an and indeed, We will be its guardian.
Chapter 15 verse 9 (quran)
@@PROVERBS31WAM yeah thats fact everybody gonna believe what you said because you are scholar of islam. Typical christian, never heard of this argument before from christian famous speaker so this one might be 5 years old argument that you got after googling "wHy Islam iS bAd"
@@muhdafiq3293 💯😁 but at least he admitted that Mohammad pbuh got revelations...
That means he admits he was final prophet bvuz only prophet geta revelations... That means he admits Islam is true religion 😂 cant believe this guy
@@PROVERBS31WAM never did it say in hadiths OR the quran he wanted to kill himself. he was afraid, yes. wouldnt u be afraid of some bright light with 600 wings??? yeah everyone would be. he never saw such a thing before so yes he was scared. but he got used to it over time when he kept coming down to give verses of the quran to him. learn more about islam before embarrassing urself 😂😂
Shabir Ally finally admits the Qur'an has indeed changed!
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@@PROVERBS31WAM i dont know if u are a human because you dont have the least knowledge. God stopped sending revealation to him for 6 months to test his patience and devotion. Then God revealed the Sura Ta'ha praising him. He wanted to kill himself of the pain of breakup with God Almighty. Then God forbade him to do that because he was the chosen one. U fool
That's why I'd rather worship the star in the sky because P-Diddy took the country out
Johannine Comma is not in the Codex Sinaiticus even in Codex Vaticanus yet it was added in the King James Bible. They added this to promote the Holy Trinity and Godhead is a major doctrine.
The versions we have are EXACTLY the ones our SOVEREIGN LORD intended for us to have. Before Lord Jesus comes back.
@Achraf Er-ramy Not only the bibles but even Joe Biden getting elected and everything going on in this world evil and the good is expected. All we have to do as believers is to keep our faith and trust in the Lord. God is in control.
@@JonahGhost God is in control but Jesus is not
@Achraf Er-ramy If the Quran is real that means it’s fake.
Surah 3:3
نَزَّلَ عَلَیۡكَ ٱلۡكِتَـٰبَ بِٱلۡحَقِّ مُصَدِّقࣰا لِّمَا بَیۡنَ یَدَیۡهِ وَأَنزَلَ ٱلتَّوۡرَىٰةَ وَٱلۡإِنجِیلَ ﴿ ٣ ﴾
He hath revealed unto thee (Muhammad) the Scripture with truth, confirming that which was (revealed) before it, even as He revealed the Torah and the Gospel.
The Quran says Torah and the Gospel is real. The Gospel says Jesus is the son of God. Quran denies Jesus and calls him a prophet. You cannot say the Gospel is real then deny the divinity of Christ. Because Jesus coming in the flesh; dying sinless on the cross to forgive our sins is the core of the Gospel.
@Achraf Er-ramy Then one might say, who was the angel that came to Muhammad to give him this fake theology? As the Quran says the Gospel is real, you can find the answers in the Gospel.
2 Corinthians 11:14
14 And no wonder, for Satan himself masquerades as an angel of light.
Galatians 1:8
But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach a gospel other than the one we preached to you, let them be under God's curse!
@Achraf Er-ramy One might still say, if the Quran is false how come God allowed this to happen??? The answer is simple. If you are a Muslim you should all read the Quran! When you read the Quran; you should automatically be led to read the Torah and the Gospel.
Surah 3:3
نَزَّلَ عَلَیۡكَ ٱلۡكِتَـٰبَ بِٱلۡحَقِّ مُصَدِّقࣰا لِّمَا بَیۡنَ یَدَیۡهِ وَأَنزَلَ ٱلتَّوۡرَىٰةَ وَٱلۡإِنجِیلَ ﴿ ٣ ﴾
He hath revealed unto thee (Muhammad) the Scripture with truth, confirming that which was (revealed) before it, even as He revealed the Torah and the Gospel.
Once you read the Gospel you will know the truth. Nobody will be able to stand in front of the Lord God and be found innocent. We are all GUILTY. CHRISTIANS, MUSLIMS, BUDDHISTS. it doesn't matter... Only Jesus can take away sins and keep you blameless in the presence of the Lord God. Not Buddha or Muhammad but Jesus. Nobody is good we are all filthy rags.
The existence of these errors/discrepancies contradicts the idea of Biblical inerrancy. For some believers who think the Bible is the flawlessly dictated word of God that alone is startling and maybe even heretical.
I know that when I read the new testament my soul is filled with light, from above. Flesh is flesh. Spirit is Spirit.
I encourage you to read the same story that mentioned in the different gospels you would find great differences i think you have an index for such a thing
@@aloudah1810 So you want to say The whole New testament is lying to us.
@@ricko9860 not the whole thing but you can't tell which is which
For example many prophets in the testament are sinners that doesn't befits prophets peace be upon them
The contradictions of many events. the same story is told in different numbers or facts or names
Verses were discovered to be a fabrication of 6th century when the 4th century scripture were found
Like timothy 16, jhon 5;7 mathew 28:19
Has been identified as such by Christian scholars
If the text has been manipulated without anyone memorized it or the original manuscript you can't find out which is which
@@ricko9860 why do you follow something that is not from God and corrupted
@@teefx5681 what do you advise me to follow?
So no divine intervention here! God is incapable of preserving his word. That's why King James said to God, "Here, hold my beer!"
The new testament is explained by the OT.
The doctrines in the gospels and Rpistles can all be explsined from OT.
Example
God is our heavenly father
Jedus is the messiah,son of God
The Spirit of God sent by God
This is why Quran came. Which says that we muslims have to belive on bible as well and it says to beleive on the last prophet of Allah that is Muhammad PBUH and it also says to belive in Jesus who was also the prophet of Allah. ALLAH had to send this last book Quran from his side due to the problem which you have explained
@@edwardlongfellow5819 the evidence is its own ayat whose translation is "this book has been sent my Allah and its security is His responsibility" Allah has promissed in this book that the security of this book is His own responsibility. if you have any doubt you can search what happened to the people who tried to change its verses. It is final book of God which also says to belive in previous prophets and books. Try to understand sir, before it is too late
@@edwardlongfellow5819 offcourse yes. Whoever tried to do alteration or did something bad with Quran, you can google them. You will find how miserable death they got by Almighty.
@@amirkhokhar89
The bad things that men do to other men is nothing to be proud of.
@@edwardlongfellow5819 can i have your whatsapp number? Lets talk in detail , may Allah almighty guides you the right way. Dont beleive on Quran but just think once. Inly once, Quran was revealed to Muhammad PBUH via Jibrael Angel, and think why after 1400 Years, it is such a holly book that even not a single alphabet is changed, and thousands of Hafiz (rememberers) remember and save it in their heart and it is such a true book that thousands of these rememberers recite complete quran in month of ramazan during taraveeh prayers without seeing the book at all.
@@amirkhokhar89
If there be a Universal truth then it should be available to all men. It cannot be reserved for any particular nation in any separate book.
But until the Supreme Creator, if there be such an intelligence, appears humanity must rely, as it has always relied,on the words of fallible men.
Mentioning Deceiver Bart Earman was I needed to hear...... Proverbs 14:7 “Go from the presence of a foolish man, when thou perceivest not in him the lips of knowledge.”
Amen, KJV only
Proverbs 30:4
Matthew 5:22, “But I say to you that everyone who is angry with his brother shall be guilty before the court; and whoever says to his brother, ‘You good-for-nothing,’ shall be guilty before the supreme court; and whoever says, ‘You fool,’ shall be guilty enough to go into the fiery hell.”
There were multiple copies of the same book of the Bible going around, they trace them back to as close to the originals as possible, as close to 1 AD as possible. They also cross reference the manuscripts they do have and do word checks, so if multiple manuscripts say “behold” in verse 15, they will go with the word behold as opposed to the word “recognize” or “stop and see.”
But if the oldest manuscript uses the word “watch” then they might go with the word “watch” instead.
Have yall ever played the gossip game when you pass a secret down the line?
That being said, I don’t see why we need NIV and NLT.
Furthermore, Paul says in 2 Timothy 2:14 not to argue over words. If you have been filled with the Holy Spirit and given hidden knowledge then you know words are also able to function as symbols and see the meaning (1 Corinthians 2:14, this is why only people who have received the Spirit should be teaching)
Those led by the Spirit and not by the letter, know the truth: those led by the letter, are in the dark..
The fact we have so many manuscripts helps to ensure accuracy.
Bruh that doesn’t make sense
@@ari-qd6xj it does.
@@HearGodsWord it doesn’t those manuscripts don’t even date back to multiple hundreds of years after Jesus y’all don’t have authentic evidence to it actually being authentic also the Bible has so many contradictions that makes the Bible an unreliable source of history also the Bible is not the WORDS OF GOD but people that say they had a close relationship with the son of god
Jesus himself never wrote the Bible nor did any message from the father ever get send down also the Bible has been proven by many people to be not authentic enough to even be used as a history book since it has so much falsehood in it
I would understand that if the Bible would back itself up but it doesn’t since it CONTRADICTS ITSELF
@@ari-qd6xj you're so lost its almost funny. So much to correct but so little space here.
@@HearGodsWord there us no limit to how much you can type and im not lost I have been raised with a christian mother and mother side of the family went to church and read the Bible I know way more than you think
The Bible says to call upon his name to be saved well what if his name was changed then you're not calling upon the correct name so you will not be saved how do we know if his name is Jesus 500 years ago the letter J didn't exist it was an i before that it was a y there's documents older than the Bible saying his name was spell completely different so if it's spelled different it would be pronounced different so it would sound different so if you're saying Jesus and that's not the correct pronunciation of his name then you are not calling upon the correct name I believe it was Romans chapter 3 verse 11 where it says...
" no one is righteous no not one"
A Son of The Father wow I can’t believe this is actually a real question, why do people like to spew out the issues but instead of researching them they’d rather just stay ignorant, here’s a hint, look up those questions and see what historical scholars say, because those questions have been answered long ago, stop being ignorant
@@japexican007 well we all know the scholars have been proven wrong dozens of times so it would be ignorant of you to fully believe them and trust them at their word........ and if your name is spelled a certain way that means it sounds a certain way it's pronounced a certain way if you add letters to it it changes the name and it changes the pronunciation therefore it is no longer the same name therefore it is not the correct name now if you're too ignorant to understand that then I'm sorry
A Son of The Father okay cool that’s why you look at both sides of the argument, it still doesn’t excuse the fact that your ignorance is lacking and you should still do the research instead of spewing you nonsense
A Son of The Father That’t not what calling upon his name means.
Good question. His name was actually pronounced ʿĪsā.
Son of virgin maryam
Read the Quran, the last revelation to mankind and the unchanged word of God.
How do you know the original manuscripts are different if you haven't seen them 😂??
... He's talking about the copies... Is that not common sense
Can we read copies of original manuscripts ? Where are they (if u know something)
2:34 sir there is no book of anything that have "all the details". However the message of Jesus Christ of Nazareth stays the same.
God takes care of his WORD. Besides the pharasees didn't need original manuscripts . They had the WORD made flesh with signs and wonders, dead people raised and they still rejected him. It's all by revelation directly from God. Mathew 16. KJV.
A lot of muslims dont understand that even the bible is translated over time, the essential belief that Jesus comes down, do good things, ask his followers to follow him and resurrect from dead is not jeopardized.
We understand that and we don't have a problem with It.
The problem is that you Trust a book that It's original copies were lost and changed to match the Roman mind of believing in human shape God with Children that are also Gods.
But Quran came for correction, that God is one he is never born nor he begets and that there's nothing like him in this world. But you people insist on believing in myths.
I swear when Jesus will come back , he will break the cross and he will gather everyone to worship his Lord and ours, but If by the will of God you were alive at that time don't cry.
@@ayassines5841 its good that you believe in the resurrection of Jesus. Good for you! If you think Quran is without corruption pls do more research and listen to unbiased view. The person muhammad could be even a legend!
@@HienMugen87 That's what you think? Ok
Great!!! let God judge Us for What we just sayed , knowing that he is witnessing our discussion .
@@ayassines5841 Sure no problem! I cant wait to meet my savior Lord God Jesus in next life for He saved me from my sins. Have a great day!
Is it all a lie? Please tell me it's not
It's not all a lie, it is just wrongly translated. You can look up the Torah And the Quran. En find the similarities between them. The bible is so much more different than those other 2 religions. That says a lot. Even the name Jesus is not right.
@@UmaiAna98 so much more different?
what are you talking about? can you prove it?!
Matthew 7:14 KJV
It’s not different, these are all Abrahamic religions. Lol
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not a lie. seek the holy spirit and not man.
John 5:39 search the scriptures; for in them you think you have eternal life:and they are they which testify of me. And ye will not come to me, that you might.
if you are not careful, you will get mixed up in man's philosophy and "estimated conclusions", but when you take it to Jesus with a genuine yearning for learning he will open up the scriptures for you regardless of man's mistakes.
Christians doesn't have "sanad" (chain of narations) system?
Like if sanad is something we can trust ... Most of hadiths are written years after Mohammad died
@@sabrinafatine2485 lol sanad means chains of narations.. Meaning for each chains will be verified.. Chain a to chain b all the way till reach main sources ..after they all gathered, there will reverification process.. That's the reason why we can easily reject all false and made up hadits made by non Muslims
@@inongbalee3092 no no there are some hadiths in Al bukhari and Muslim that are crazy to believe and also some of them contradicting the Quran
@@sabrinafatine2485 it's due to lack of supporting knowledge those who read it,ussually there's a citations comment in it ..ie Abu fulan is marked as a liar,unthruswhorty etc but the chains will still continues all the way
@@inongbalee3092 do you understand Arabic? Cause you know Hadiths and Quran are written in Arabic and for you to understand them properly you should know Arabic
Don't read NT as it is a child fair tale
Want to serve G'D, the REAL and ONE G'D? Get a copy of a Hebrew Tanack (Torah/Nevi'im/ketuvim)..
Read Genesis and don't advance without full understanding!
Doing so you will be on the right path
G'D (the Real and Only ONE Creator and Sustainer of the universe and everything inside) bless you all.
עם ישראל חי 💙🤍🇮🇱
I think it’s crazy. If it’s so corrupted why are all the prophecies on point?
Anyone can read the words of Christ and in a short time it will become clear that he speaks with a clarity of intent that is unique. Yes, the translations have been mishandled over time. Yes, scribes made errors when copying the Gospels by hand for centuries until the invention of printing press. But, still Christ's meaning will be clear to virtually anyone with a open mind, and more importantly an open heart.
Not just errors, but intentional changes to control religion
@@sallygirl1012 The original manuscripts are lost. But, the words of Christ that we do have are more than enough imho to lead humanity out of the darkness of tribal warfare that has held back generations for centuries from fully realizing our true lives as given to all of us by the Creator. We must listen with our heart, see with our love. The Creator is present and always has been from the beginning. It is us who blind ourselves to the abundance and goodness that is found here on our Earth as nowhere else in the universe. We are blessed. Whether we see that, or not, is up to each of us.
Holy Spirit guides in to truth and makes the red line very clear.
God stooped down in Christ to give us freely, by His own all atoning Holy Blood and indwelling Holy Spirit, the divine life back, the first Adam lost in the fall of man. God has already come full circle.
Hence the healing miracles with Christians who understands.
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You Are Wrong.
The context define the meaning of the scripture, not the different words used.
We Christians don’t need to validate the book, God protects and bring the Word to us one way or another, and with the help of the Holy Spirit we are enlightened.
Jesus said he will send a comforter to us that will show us unto all truth John 14:16
which is the prophet muhammad pbuh, the Quran which contains all the truth from beginning of time to moses to jesus and end of world. Try do research
@Micky Calebro just go search about Prophet Muhammad in the Bible, watch ones which are made by muslims.
@@OncePlayed how could a man who had sex slaves be considered a comforter? The comforter is the Holy Spirit, not an Arabian warlord.
Joseph Solomon please, give it a rest!
Do your own research including hundreds of errors and contradictions in Sahih Hadiths that refute the Quran. The Quran contains errors and dead ends.
Read for yourself, don’t just pass along what you’ve been told
@@victoriabrown3314 I've done my own research, but I'll remind you when that day comes, it will be too late. You said Quran contains errors and dead ends, come bring it here i dare you,show it, let the people here see it, please.
It's just as well that we don't have the originals - otherwise someone would demand that we worship them. I'd be suspicious if they were all the same anyway....
Faith and free will God speaks in riddles so only the believers can be gifted With the truth.
Isaiah 30:8
Now go, write it before them in a table, and note it in a book, that it may be for the time to come for ever and ever:
Psalms 12:
6 The words of the LORD are pure words: as silver tried in a furnace of earth, purified seven times.
7 Thou shalt keep them, O LORD, thou shalt preserve them from this generation for ever.
One thing that all textual critics agree on is this: man cannot have Gods pure Words in his hands. They just don’t believe the verses.
True, we have to believe Gods Word over anything.
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Thats why you preserved Mark 16:9-20 even if it's not truly wrriten in the original manuscript. wake up!
@@freedomofspeech9612 It’s always truly been in the Textus Receptus.
a remnant, chosen by grace.
... it is by grace, it is no longer on the basis of works;
otherwise grace would no longer be grace.
Romans 11:5
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we are not of those who shrink back (to the OLD Testament)
and are destroyed,
but of those who have faith and preserve their souls.
Hebrews 10:39
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قناة و الحق يحرركم - The Truth Shall Make You Free no he was created by Romans ua-cam.com/video/sr8oos00JMw/v-deo.html
James 2:26
As the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without deeds is dead.
James 2:24
You see that a person is considered righteous by what they do and not by faith alone.
(We are saved by Faith and good works not faith alone)
Who destroyed the Original And why
Rome empire did they burn old trastament and temple of solemon, after isa(jesus) rome epire did again burn bible, torture to marks, jhone others..
The church hide the truth
They did it so the church would control people. People payed churches to go to heaven. They said they sold tickets to heaven. They just wanted money not the words of the god.
THE FALLEN why do you think so?
@ilisoir 18 Yes I said it was changed.
Woah! That was a massive assumption at the start which led to the rest of your assumption. Someone would come to Corinth and say "hey can I copy out Pauls letter?" Where did you get that idea from? It's estimated around 3% of people could write at all in 1st century middle East. Let alone be able to copy out a manuscript as well written (clear characters with minimal scoring out) as the copies we have. There were people who's job it was to read out and write stuff in the town. They did that for a living. You're claiming every country bumpkin that popped into town was writing copies themselves? It's far, far, far more likely (based on the literacy rates and availability and usage of professional scribes) that these documents were copied out very well. The fact the variations between manuscripts of the same time are so small is surely even further evidence of that? It took centuries for the errors to accumulate.
P.s. Total atheist. So I'm not fighting for an inerrant bible. But your assumption everyone and their dog was copying just doesn't fit.
The modern English Holy Bible had to be translated from foreign languages and no translation from one language to another can be word for word. Even if it could, it would make no sense to the reader. The Bible wasn't translated by one man, but by many Biblical scholars doing their best to give as accurate a translation as possible as a team. You either believe the Holy Bible or you don't. You must have faith. If you have no faith, I pity you!!
Critical answer for many skeptics!
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Funny watch what Dr. Wallace says about the New Testament in this interview ua-cam.com/video/6zn1mvL4oHA/v-deo.html
Hello everyone. I am aware that there are between 400,000 and 500,000 textual variants in new testaments manuscripts. But when he says that does he mean in the 25,000 manuscripts or less? How many manuscripts are we talking about? Because if there are 400,000 textual variants in the 25,000 manuscripts that means there are just 16 textual variants in each manuscript. Or have a misunderstood something? 16 doesn't seem like a lot.
16 is not a lot,BUT depends on the weight those statements carry!! You could have only ONE contradition which e.g says Jesus is not God, the Council of Nacea VOTED on his divinity and it wouuld have tremendous meaning!!
The "long ending" of Mark (widely agreed as spurious) is mentioned but lumped in with "minor textual variances". That is hardly so when its inclusion is critical to supporting the resurrection of Jesus. Without it the gospel of Mark ends with women discovering an empty tomb and keeping it secret.
The heptatic structure found in the so-called added verses in Mark proves without a doubt that they were there from the beginning and not added at a later date. The probability of the heptatic structure of the last so-called added verses of Mark being the work of some enthusiastic but mislead scribe pushes the mathematical boundaries of the ABSURD. Research Borel's Law and then research the heptatic structue of Mark. Like the heptatic structure found in tge geneology of Jesus in Matthew it can only be attributed to the fingerprint of the Holy Spirit!!!
Not really it says that he was resurrected in Mark 16:6 no? Doesn’t seem to impact the narrative to me.
Im not too sure how true this is. As I understand the gnostics were early fixtures in the emerging religion and they challenged the divine nature of Jesus and his resurrection. I do think there were significant doctrinal differences.
And how are you going to trust the Hebrew Bible if the prophets themselves say that the scribes distorted it? (Jeremiah 8:8).
He talked about how these little changes don’t affect doctrine. 🙏 Jesus is still God.
Bruh
I can see the effect in your comment itself. Jesus is a fake name.
@AM Messiah prayed to God because he is a human being same as us while* that time.
@@abdulazizzahrani3414
1. Jesus is not GOD.
2. Ha Massiha is Elohim himself in human form.
3. Isa is not the Ha Massiha mentioned in the Scriptures.
4. If you read Quran you will know that Isa is not God but a prophet.
*Dude everyone knows that.*
you mean your jesus as god was circumcised by people😀😀Mr. jesus is not God