Ich habe eine Frage: Ich habe den Baum am 18. Januar nach Russland bestellt, aber er ist noch nicht angekommen, wird er kommen, oder ist er wegen des Krieges mit der Ukraine nicht mehr da?
I have a question: I ordered the tree to Russia on January 18, but it has not yet arrived, will it come, or because of the war with Ukraine it is no longer there?
In the video you say that there is "good evidence" for the existence of Jesus, without backing up that claim with any evidence. I would highly suggest that you thoroughly research a topic before making such claims in the future so that you do not mislead your audience. One book that I would highly recommend that you read is On the Historicity of Jesus, by Richard Carrier. When it was published in 2014, it was the first peer reviewed case against the historicity of Jesus in about 100 years. Obviously peer review is critical when tackling topics like this.
I am not at all religious, but I always enjoy these "biblical" videos immensely, simply due to the amount of careful research put into them, and the precise and calm manner it is presented in. Science at its best. Excellent work, Mr Baker, as always!
@@May3yad3 Those would be misinterpretations of mostly secular people. I don't have the answers off the top of my head, but every contradiction listed will have a real argument disproving the contradiction
Absolutely. Makes no difference whether you are practicing any religion. These videos need to be viewed Historically and Scientifically. I would think the more strict and practicing of any religion, might take away these realizations.
@@BlackMist123 keep your convictions all you want but there's no sane way a religious argument wins over a logic, agnostic one, any day, all day. That's life.
8:59 Something I'd like to share because I feel like people might be curious. The process employed by the Nestle-Aland to determine what is most likely to be original is called textual criticism and hinges on the base assumption that text is important. And because text is important, it has a tendency to grow. It is assumed that ancient scribes would be hesitant to strike words out of what for them would be the holy word of God. Rather their tendency would be towards expanding the text to make something more clear. So if you have a section of text with multiple versions, the one you would assume to be the original is the one that's shortest and most difficult to understand. Because a scribe coming to that section to copy it would, if anything, add words onto it to clear up a possible misunderstanding, rather than taking a long, easy verse and cutting words out until it's difficult to read. For example if you have a section where Jesus is quoted as saying "If you can do *this*" but it's not clear if he is referring to something earlier in the text or to the instruction he is just about to give. You might add in the verb you think he meant after "this" to make sure the reader doesn't misunderstand. (This example is a little unwieldy but I promise it makes sense in Greek) That's the big one. But of course, you also consider which versions have the most textual evidence. So a variant of a verse that you find on a single papyrus and nowhere else, while not guaranteed to be an error, it'd be questionable why this papyrus is the only one with this variant version if it really was the original everybody else copied from. You also consider textual families, or text-types. As scribes from specific regions keep copying off of the same manuscripts and then later scribes copy their copies, they inherit certain errors or quirks and by tracking these inherited errors across multiple manuscripts, you can begin to understand how two texts might be related. So for example there's a family of 600+ minuscule manuscripts that Nestle-Aland tends to value fairly low in terms of how original they are. As all these manuscripts are products of organized, institutionalized Byzantine copying schools. So while they represent the dominant text used in the Middle Ages by the Byzantines, they're all dependent on one another, so their sheer number adds little to support their originality. Codex Sinaiticus and Vaticanus for example are considered to be part of the Alexandrian family of texts. Whereas the Codex Alexandrinus uses the Byzantine text type in its Gospels but the Alexandrian in the rest of the books. Usually something that will be a good indicator of a verse's originality is if multiple text families agree on its wording. Those are the big ones, I think. EDIT: Thought of one more thing. There's certain sources of error that are so commonly seen that if you can make an argument that a textual variation is the result of that type of error, you've pretty much already won the argument. The big one I remember is if you have a bit of text in a manuscript where on a page two lines end on the same word, there's a fair chance that a scribe might skip the lines between. Because if the scribe just finished a sentence that ended in "called" for example, when he looks back up his eyes will be scanning for "called" starting at the bottom of the page. So if a later line also ends with that word, he might just keep going from there and skip everything inbetween the two instances of that word. Another one is copying a version from a different gospel. So especially within the Synoptic Gospels Matthew, Mark and Luke, their wordings often differ and sometimes in really benign ways on really benign things. So if the scribe has had a lot of Matthew read to him throughout his life, even when copying Luke he might slip up and go "Okay i Know how this line ends" and end up inserting Matthew's version into Luke. TL;DR: The most originalest variant of any given verse, according to Nestle-Aland, will be the one that is old and well documented by reliable independent manuscripts and which is shorter and more difficult to fully understand than the other documented variants without being the result of an error.
Yes, thanks for sharing! It would be better and very important if we could discover manuscripts from the early 2nd century containing the Greek text of Mark, Luke, Acts, and the Epistles. It may help the textual critics to edit a text that is more close to the original than all the various texts of the famous NT manuscripts.
John 5:4 is part of the Original text of John (Byzantine + Caesarean vs. Alexandrian + Western). But John 6:4 is a late accidental interpolation. Pericope Adulterae is part of the original text of Luke (After Luke 21:38) instead of John. According to the Caesarean text (Family 13 of minuscules, per example: Minuscule 826), Pericope Adulterae is placed after Luke 21:38.
Wow this is so interesting to learn! I now very much want to read a ‘behind the scenes’ of The Nestle-Aland text. How did you learn of their methods? Was it included in the foreword/footnotes/appendices, or did you find out elsewhere?
Jesus is the only way. We have all sinned and deserve Hell. Sins that may seem small in our eyes are big in God's and are worthy of Hell, such as lying lusting and stealing. But if we repent and trust only in Jesus, he is faithful and will save us from Hell and give us eternal life in Heaven. Trust in Jesus! John 3:16 Romans 6:23❤😊
I really couldn't ever get bored of those videos about biblical history, hope you'll do many more, like this on biblical and apocrypha scrolls or about a specific book just like a deeper presentation of what you already did with the series who wrote the bible, you're really good at explaining and entertaining
JESUS B PEACE ON HIM WAS POOPING AND PEE WAS EATING SLEEPING LIKE ANY ONE HE USE TO POOP EVERY TIME WHEN NATURE WORKS HE USED TO PEE AND SLEEP IGNORANT ADRESS PEOPLE'S OF NO REASONS. CHAPTER 18 VERSES 1_5 ٱلْحَمْدُ لِلَّهِ ٱلَّذِىٓ أَنزَلَ عَلَىٰ عَبْدِهِ ٱلْكِتَٰبَ وَلَمْ يَجْعَل لَّهُۥ عِوَجَا ۜ Praise be to Allah, Who hath sent to His Servant the Book, and hath allowed therein no Crookedness: قَيِّمًا لِّيُنذِرَ بَأْسًا شَدِيدًا مِّن لَّدُنْهُ وَيُبَشِّرَ ٱلْمُؤْمِنِينَ ٱلَّذِينَ يَعْمَلُونَ ٱلصَّٰلِحَٰتِ أَنَّ لَهُمْ أَجْرًا حَسَنًا (He hath made it) Straight (and Clear) in order that He may warn (the godless) of a terrible Punishment from Him, and that He may give Glad Tidings to the Believers who work righteous deeds, that they shall have a goodly Reward, مَّٰكِثِينَ فِيهِ أَبَدًا Further, that He may warn those (also) who say, "Allah hath begotten a son": مَّا لَهُم بِهِۦ مِنْ عِلْمٍ وَلَا لِءَابَآئِهِمْ ۚ كَبُرَتْ كَلِمَةً تَخْرُجُ مِنْ أَفْوَٰهِهِمْ ۚ إِن يَقُولُونَ إِلَّا كَذِبًا No knowledge have they of such a thing, nor had their fathers. It is a grievous thing that issues from their mouths as a saying what they say is nothing but falsehood!
OK this are verses from your fabricated Bible: Matthew 27:46 New International Version 46 About three in the afternoon Jesus cried out in a loud voice, “Eli, Eli,[a] lema sabachthani?” (which means “My God, my God, why have you forsaken me?”).[b](A) Mark 11:12-25 New International Version Jesus Curses a Fig Tree and Clears the Temple Courts(A)(B)(C) 12 The next day as they were leaving Bethany, Jesus was hungry. 13 Seeing in the distance a fig tree in leaf, he went to find out if it had any fruit. When he reached it, he found nothing but leaves, because it was not the season for figs.(D) 14 Then he said to the tree, “May no one ever eat fruit from you again.” And his disciples heard him say it. A hungry God doesn't know about the Fig when it comes. On reaching Jerusalem, Jesus entered the temple courts and began driving out those who were buying and selling there. He overturned the tables of the money changers and the benches of those selling doves, 16 and would not allow anyone to carry merchandise through the temple courts. 17 And as he taught them, he said, “Is it not written: ‘My house will be called a house of prayer for all nations’[a]?(E) But you have made it ‘a den of robbers.’[b]”(F) 18 The chief priests and the teachers of the law heard this and began looking for a way to kill him, for they feared him,(G) because the whole crowd was amazed at his teaching.(H) 19 When evening came, Jesus and his disciples[c] went out of the city.(I) 20 In the morning, as they went along, they saw the fig tree withered from the roots. 21 Peter remembered and said to Jesus, “Rabbi,(J) look! The fig tree you cursed has withered!” 22 “Have faith in God,” Jesus answered. You doesn't understand you're Bible you're telling jokes. A God crying to a god ? A God Cursed a tree because he didn't know about the Fig a God was walking in streets and buying things and shoping for food then teatch thing they did want to kill God this are you're logic CHAPTER 25 VERSE 20 وَمَآ أَرْسَلْنَا قَبْلَكَ مِنَ ٱلْمُرْسَلِينَ إِلَّآ إِنَّهُمْ لَيَأْكُلُونَ ٱلطَّعَامَ وَيَمْشُونَ فِى ٱلْأَسْوَاقِ ۗ وَجَعَلْنَا بَعْضَكُمْ لِبَعْضٍ فِتْنَةً أَتَصْبِرُونَ ۗ وَكَانَ رَبُّكَ بَصِيرًا And the messengers whom We sent before thee were all (men) who ate food and walked through the streets: We have made some of you as a trial for others: will ye have patience? for Allah is One Who sees (all things). Yep there's no doubt that he's not God CHAPTER 25 VERSE 7 وَقَالُوا۟ مَالِ هَٰذَا ٱلرَّسُولِ يَأْكُلُ ٱلطَّعَامَ وَيَمْشِى فِى ٱلْأَسْوَاقِ ۙ لَوْلَآ أُنزِلَ إِلَيْهِ مَلَكٌ فَيَكُونَ مَعَهُۥ نَذِيرًا And they say: "What sort of a messenger is this, who eats food, and walks through the streets? Why has not an angel been sent down to him to give admonition with him?
JESUS B PEACE ON HIM WAS POOPING AND PEE WAS EATING SLEEPING LIKE ANY ONE HE USE TO POOP EVERY TIME WHEN NATURE WORKS HE USED TO PEE AND SLEEP IGNORANT ADRESS PEOPLE'S OF NO REASONS. CHAPTER 18 VERSES 1_5 ٱلْحَمْدُ لِلَّهِ ٱلَّذِىٓ أَنزَلَ عَلَىٰ عَبْدِهِ ٱلْكِتَٰبَ وَلَمْ يَجْعَل لَّهُۥ عِوَجَا ۜ Praise be to Allah, Who hath sent to His Servant the Book, and hath allowed therein no Crookedness: قَيِّمًا لِّيُنذِرَ بَأْسًا شَدِيدًا مِّن لَّدُنْهُ وَيُبَشِّرَ ٱلْمُؤْمِنِينَ ٱلَّذِينَ يَعْمَلُونَ ٱلصَّٰلِحَٰتِ أَنَّ لَهُمْ أَجْرًا حَسَنًا (He hath made it) Straight (and Clear) in order that He may warn (the godless) of a terrible Punishment from Him, and that He may give Glad Tidings to the Believers who work righteous deeds, that they shall have a goodly Reward, مَّٰكِثِينَ فِيهِ أَبَدًا Further, that He may warn those (also) who say, "Allah hath begotten a son": مَّا لَهُم بِهِۦ مِنْ عِلْمٍ وَلَا لِءَابَآئِهِمْ ۚ كَبُرَتْ كَلِمَةً تَخْرُجُ مِنْ أَفْوَٰهِهِمْ ۚ إِن يَقُولُونَ إِلَّا كَذِبًا No knowledge have they of such a thing, nor had their fathers. It is a grievous thing that issues from their mouths as a saying what they say is nothing but falsehood!OK this are verses from your fabricated Bible: Matthew 27:46 New International Version 46 About three in the afternoon Jesus cried out in a loud voice, “Eli, Eli,[a] lema sabachthani?” (which means “My God, my God, why have you forsaken me?”).[b](A) Mark 11:12-25 New International Version Jesus Curses a Fig Tree and Clears the Temple Courts(A)(B)(C) 12 The next day as they were leaving Bethany, Jesus was hungry. 13 Seeing in the distance a fig tree in leaf, he went to find out if it had any fruit. When he reached it, he found nothing but leaves, because it was not the season for figs.(D) 14 Then he said to the tree, “May no one ever eat fruit from you again.” And his disciples heard him say it. A hungry God doesn't know about the Fig when it comes. On reaching Jerusalem, Jesus entered the temple courts and began driving out those who were buying and selling there. He overturned the tables of the money changers and the benches of those selling doves, 16 and would not allow anyone to carry merchandise through the temple courts. 17 And as he taught them, he said, “Is it not written: ‘My house will be called a house of prayer for all nations’[a]?(E) But you have made it ‘a den of robbers.’[b]”(F) 18 The chief priests and the teachers of the law heard this and began looking for a way to kill him, for they feared him,(G) because the whole crowd was amazed at his teaching.(H) 19 When evening came, Jesus and his disciples[c] went out of the city.(I) 20 In the morning, as they went along, they saw the fig tree withered from the roots. 21 Peter remembered and said to Jesus, “Rabbi,(J) look! The fig tree you cursed has withered!” 22 “Have faith in God,” Jesus answered. You doesn't understand you're Bible you're telling jokes. A God crying to a god ? A God Cursed a tree because he didn't know about the Fig a God was walking in streets and buying things and shoping for food then teatch thing they did want to kill God this are you're logic CHAPTER 25 VERSE 20 وَمَآ أَرْسَلْنَا قَبْلَكَ مِنَ ٱلْمُرْسَلِينَ إِلَّآ إِنَّهُمْ لَيَأْكُلُونَ ٱلطَّعَامَ وَيَمْشُونَ فِى ٱلْأَسْوَاقِ ۗ وَجَعَلْنَا بَعْضَكُمْ لِبَعْضٍ فِتْنَةً أَتَصْبِرُونَ ۗ وَكَانَ رَبُّكَ بَصِيرًا And the messengers whom We sent before thee were all (men) who ate food and walked through the streets: We have made some of you as a trial for others: will ye have patience? for Allah is One Who sees (all things). Yep there's no doubt that he's not God CHAPTER 25 VERSE 7 وَقَالُوا۟ مَالِ هَٰذَا ٱلرَّسُولِ يَأْكُلُ ٱلطَّعَامَ وَيَمْشِى فِى ٱلْأَسْوَاقِ ۙ لَوْلَآ أُنزِلَ إِلَيْهِ مَلَكٌ فَيَكُونَ مَعَهُۥ نَذِيرًا And they say: "What sort of a messenger is this, who eats food, and walks through the streets? Why has not an angel been sent down to him to give admonition with him?
@@spellman007 it's the truth, بسم الله الرحمن الرحيم JESUS B PEACE ON HIM WAS POOPING AND PEE WAS EATING SLEEPING LIKE ANY ONE HE USE TO POOP EVERY TIME WHEN NATURE WORKS HE USED TO PEE AND SLEEP IGNORANT ADRESS PEOPLE'S OF NO REASONS. CHAPTER 18 VERSES 1_5 ٱلْحَمْدُ لِلَّهِ ٱلَّذِىٓ أَنزَلَ عَلَىٰ عَبْدِهِ ٱلْكِتَٰبَ وَلَمْ يَجْعَل لَّهُۥ عِوَجَا ۜ Praise be to Allah, Who hath sent to His Servant the Book, and hath allowed therein no Crookedness: قَيِّمًا لِّيُنذِرَ بَأْسًا شَدِيدًا مِّن لَّدُنْهُ وَيُبَشِّرَ ٱلْمُؤْمِنِينَ ٱلَّذِينَ يَعْمَلُونَ ٱلصَّٰلِحَٰتِ أَنَّ لَهُمْ أَجْرًا حَسَنًا (He hath made it) Straight (and Clear) in order that He may warn (the godless) of a terrible Punishment from Him, and that He may give Glad Tidings to the Believers who work righteous deeds, that they shall have a goodly Reward, مَّٰكِثِينَ فِيهِ أَبَدًا Further, that He may warn those (also) who say, "Allah hath begotten a son": مَّا لَهُم بِهِۦ مِنْ عِلْمٍ وَلَا لِءَابَآئِهِمْ ۚ كَبُرَتْ كَلِمَةً تَخْرُجُ مِنْ أَفْوَٰهِهِمْ ۚ إِن يَقُولُونَ إِلَّا كَذِبًا No knowledge have they of such a thing, nor had their fathers. It is a grievous thing that issues from their mouths as a saying what they say is nothing but falsehood!OK this are verses from your fabricated Bible: Matthew 27:46 New International Version 46 About three in the afternoon Jesus cried out in a loud voice, “Eli, Eli,[a] lema sabachthani?” (which means “My God, my God, why have you forsaken me?”).[b](A) Mark 11:12-25 New International Version Jesus Curses a Fig Tree and Clears the Temple Courts(A)(B)(C) 12 The next day as they were leaving Bethany, Jesus was hungry. 13 Seeing in the distance a fig tree in leaf, he went to find out if it had any fruit. When he reached it, he found nothing but leaves, because it was not the season for figs.(D) 14 Then he said to the tree, “May no one ever eat fruit from you again.” And his disciples heard him say it. A hungry God doesn't know about the Fig when it comes. On reaching Jerusalem, Jesus entered the temple courts and began driving out those who were buying and selling there. He overturned the tables of the money changers and the benches of those selling doves, 16 and would not allow anyone to carry merchandise through the temple courts. 17 And as he taught them, he said, “Is it not written: ‘My house will be called a house of prayer for all nations’[a]?(E) But you have made it ‘a den of robbers.’[b]”(F) 18 The chief priests and the teachers of the law heard this and began looking for a way to kill him, for they feared him,(G) because the whole crowd was amazed at his teaching.(H) 19 When evening came, Jesus and his disciples[c] went out of the city.(I) 20 In the morning, as they went along, they saw the fig tree withered from the roots. 21 Peter remembered and said to Jesus, “Rabbi,(J) look! The fig tree you cursed has withered!” 22 “Have faith in God,” Jesus answered. You doesn't understand you're Bible you're telling jokes. A God crying to a god ? A God Cursed a tree because he didn't know about the Fig a God was walking in streets and buying things and shoping for food then teatch thing they did want to kill God this are you're logic CHAPTER 25 VERSE 20 وَمَآ أَرْسَلْنَا قَبْلَكَ مِنَ ٱلْمُرْسَلِينَ إِلَّآ إِنَّهُمْ لَيَأْكُلُونَ ٱلطَّعَامَ وَيَمْشُونَ فِى ٱلْأَسْوَاقِ ۗ وَجَعَلْنَا بَعْضَكُمْ لِبَعْضٍ فِتْنَةً أَتَصْبِرُونَ ۗ وَكَانَ رَبُّكَ بَصِيرًا And the messengers whom We sent before thee were all (men) who ate food and walked through the streets: We have made some of you as a trial for others: will ye have patience? for Allah is One Who sees (all things). Yep there's no doubt that he's not God CHAPTER 25 VERSE 7 وَقَالُوا۟ مَالِ هَٰذَا ٱلرَّسُولِ يَأْكُلُ ٱلطَّعَامَ وَيَمْشِى فِى ٱلْأَسْوَاقِ ۙ لَوْلَآ أُنزِلَ إِلَيْهِ مَلَكٌ فَيَكُونَ مَعَهُۥ نَذِيرًا And they say: "What sort of a messenger is this, who eats food, and walks through the streets? Why has not an angel been sent down to him to give admonition with him? CHAPTER 2 VERSES 257_258 ٱللَّهُ وَلِىُّ ٱلَّذِينَ ءَامَنُوا۟ يُخْرِجُهُم مِّنَ ٱلظُّلُمَٰتِ إِلَى ٱلنُّورِ ۖ وَٱلَّذِينَ كَفَرُوٓا۟ أَوْلِيَآؤُهُمُ ٱلطَّٰغُوتُ يُخْرِجُونَهُم مِّنَ ٱلنُّورِ إِلَى ٱلظُّلُمَٰتِ ۗ أُو۟لَٰٓئِكَ أَصْحَٰبُ ٱلنَّارِ ۖ هُمْ فِيهَا خَٰلِدُونَ Allah is the Protector of those who have faith: from the depths of darkness He will lead them forth into light. Of those who reject faith the patrons are the evil ones: from light they will lead them forth into the depths of darkness. They will be companions of the fire, to dwell therein (For ever). أَلَمْ تَرَ إِلَى ٱلَّذِى حَآجَّ إِبْرَٰهِۦمَ فِى رَبِّهِۦٓ أَنْ ءَاتَىٰهُ ٱللَّهُ ٱلْمُلْكَ إِذْ قَالَ إِبْرَٰهِۦمُ رَبِّىَ ٱلَّذِى يُحْىِۦ وَيُمِيتُ قَالَ أَنَا۠ أُحْىِۦ وَأُمِيتُ ۖ قَالَ إِبْرَٰهِۦمُ فَإِنَّ ٱللَّهَ يَأْتِى بِٱلشَّمْسِ مِنَ ٱلْمَشْرِقِ فَأْتِ بِهَا مِنَ ٱلْمَغْرِبِ فَبُهِتَ ٱلَّذِى كَفَرَ ۗ وَٱللَّهُ لَا يَهْدِى ٱلْقَوْمَ ٱلظَّٰلِمِينَ Hast thou not Turned thy vision to one who disputed with Abraham About his Lord, because Allah had granted him power? Abraham said: "My Lord is He Who Giveth life and death." He said: "I give life and death". Said Abraham: "But it is Allah that causeth the sun to rise from the east: Do thou then cause him to rise from the West." Thus was he confounded who (in arrogance) rejected faith. Nor doth Allah Give guidance to a people unjust
Update on the Dead Sea Scrolls and the Book of Esther. The Book of Esther is indeed included in the Dead Sea Scrolls but it wasn't until they could read it with enhanced photographic equipment that they discovered what it was. Someone in antiquity had spilled wine on it and so the text was obscured. The modern equipment they used was able to read through the staining and it revealed the Book of Esther. Edit: Correction. This claim has been debunked. Esther has not been found in the Dead Sea scrolls.
They used psychedelics to "see more clearly". Yeah, and I bet being stoned on something even like LSD can really Really REALLY help you see things you want to see. Esther is a book that should be suspect as to whether it belongs in the Bible. It reads more like an allegory rather than actual history with Mordecai being some sort of Savior figure. Esther had sex with a pagan king! How is that honorable?
Unfortunately the book of Esther is refuted by the historical king Xerxes. The king that the Jews claimed was Esther's husband. King Xerxes of Persia wrote his own biographical history on his cylinder seal and Herodetus also verifies the king and queens existence, queen Vashti. Neither Xerxes or his sons nor external authors like Herodetus mention Esther. In fact, no historical author from Persia or Greece mentioned Esther but many local sources mention both king Xerxes and his actual historical queen Vashti.
@@oceanetcetera8328 Both the book of Esther and Daniel have been refuted by actual historical evidence. You can read my other comment on Esther but if you study Persian history from 550 - 330 bce you can see how badly the author of Daniel gets his history of Persia completely mixed up. This is a clear indication that the author of Daniel was not living during the time period in which the author portraits and also clearly shows how ignorant the author was regarding actual history.
@@ObjectiveEthics "refuted" is a very strong term to use and one that demands solid irrefutable evidence. While I doubt that Esther should be regarded as authentic history, the Book of Daniel is entirely different (although certain people who hate Christians and who hate 1st Century Jews would love to see it "refuted"). Look up: "NEW LIGHT ON THE BOOK OF DANIEL FROM THE DEAD SEA SCROLLS" by Associates For Biblical Research
The sheer amount of historical information that has been lost and will likely never be found again is depressing. Even preserving the smallest fragment surviving from a source over 1700 years old is an absolute treasure.
@@Bonklers Dr. Hector Avalos, professor of Religious Studies at Iowa State University: "When Christians in power were not burning or destroying rival accounts of Jesus, they often changed the text of orthodox scriptures to conform to the scribes’ views." - Craig versus McCullagh: A Response to Travis James Campbell, Debunking Christianity.
@@Bonklers Dr. Tom Harpur, professor of New Testament and ordained Anglican priest: “a host of other scholars have documented such a horror story of book burning, forgery, and deliberate fraud over the late second, third, and fourth centuries that anyone unfamiliar with it can scarcely take it all in.” - The Pagan Christ.
@@mythbuster1483 Those other accounts were gnóstic trash, heresy condemned by the Apostles and their disciples such as Polycarp and clement of rome, st Ignatius of Antioch, etc. Plus the fact that we have a full New Testament form the time of Augustine, assures every Christian their text remains in accordance to those used by the early church. U know nothing of Christianity, you aren’t even a Christian, outsiders are obsessed with trying to disprove us lol.
@@danielespejo375 You have nothing written by the "apostles", who are literary characters in a fictional story, nor do you have anything written by the Church Fathers. All you have are edited versions of edited versions of documents written by anonymous, biased cult members, none of which you can prove accurately represent the lost originals, let alone that the stories in them are true. Dr Daniel B. Wallace: “none of the original documents of any church fathers remains. Almost all the copies of these early patristic writers come from the Middle Ages.” - The Majority Text and the Original Text: Are They Identical?
@@danielespejo375 Also, no one has to "disprove" absurd supernatural claims made with *NO EVIDENCE WHATSOEVER* . "The burden of proof is always on the person making an assertion or proposition. Shifting the burden of proof, a special case of argumentum ad ignorantium, is the fallacy of putting the burden of proof on the person who denies or questions the assertion being made." Dr. Philip A. Pecorino, Philosophy of Religion
I can watch Useful Charts talking about genealogy charts, timelines, and then pivot to talking about ancient manuscripts for hours! Such a fascinating topic and I think more people (esp people who read the Bible) need to watch this video!!
The fact that the Bible has zero margin of deviation & includes 66 books by 40 writers, shows it’s divine origin. Even with copyist errors, they’re minute enough, to get back to the original texts! and the more copies we find, just like in March of last year, the more evidence we have for God! just like we keep finding more dead things buried in the ground; so as time goes by, we keep finding more evidence for God of the Bible, Not less! The opposite can be said for evolution!
Copies of the bible are not '"evidence of god",please read a definition of "evidence", you have none , the more the bible is checked against archaeology the more it debunks itself. The Bible was never meant to be a litersl history.
@@jamestcatcato7132 nope archaeological digs prove the Bible stories were not made up and the piles and piles of manuscript evidence is also corroborative evidence showing that we can get back to the originals; because of the statistic probability of 40 writers not contradicting, Proves Gods hand was involved in it because of the thematic nature of the subjects not contradicting themselves! Did you Google British Museum and the Bible yet you need to do that! You’ll instantly see pictures of these! 27% of the Bible is prophecy! that’s future history written in advance! God is sticking his neck out there to get a cut off if he’s wrong, but he hasn’t been wrong, so the end of the world will happen just like the Bible says! You cannot out psychologize the Bible for God not to throw you into hell for all eternity. In other words, you cannot come up with a good enough excuse here & now, so you won’t on judgment day. If you say you did not ask to be born God‘s gonna say you should’ve been born again, that means become a Christian, so that’s not gonna work! So disprove the Bible psychologically it’s smarter than you! If you can’t the Bible’s winning! We have better science in the Bible of how everything got here than evolutionists because the first law of thermodynamics and DNA both point to a creator; they’re closed ended arguments saying they didn’t create themselves and nothing within the material universe created them! Again, mic drop
@@jjphank You're completely misinformed. Dr. Gerd Ludemann, Chair of History and Literature of Early Christianity at the University of Göttingen: "the results of historical scholarship can be made known to the public - especially to believers - only with difficulty. Many Christians feel threatened if they hear that MOST of what was written in the Bible is (in historical terms) UNTRUE and that none of the four New Testament Gospels was written by the author listed at the top of the text." - Kêrygma and History in the Thought of Rudolf Bultmann
@@jjphank Dr. Justin J. Meggitt, Professor of Divinity, University of Cambridge: "The GOSPELS CANNOT BE TRUSTED as sources for historical data. They are full of contradictions, discrepancies, supernatural claims and obvious bias...Mark is a work of fiction not history. Mark was also written far too late to give any authentic historical facts." - ‘More Ingenious Than Learned’? Examining the Quest for the Non-Historical Jesus
The history of the Bible has always fascinated me. As a child I always questioned it. Not the theological meaning, but the history of when, where and how it was written. As well as the sources from other ancient writings. This series is a wonderful collection of the Bible's history.
بسم الله الرحمن الرحيم JESUS B PEACE ON HIM WAS POOPING AND PEE WAS EATING SLEEPING LIKE ANY ONE HE USE TO POOP EVERY TIME WHEN NATURE WORKS HE USED TO PEE AND SLEEP IGNORANT ADRESS PEOPLE'S OF NO REASONS. CHAPTER 18 VERSES 1_5 ٱلْحَمْدُ لِلَّهِ ٱلَّذِىٓ أَنزَلَ عَلَىٰ عَبْدِهِ ٱلْكِتَٰبَ وَلَمْ يَجْعَل لَّهُۥ عِوَجَا ۜ Praise be to Allah, Who hath sent to His Servant the Book, and hath allowed therein no Crookedness: قَيِّمًا لِّيُنذِرَ بَأْسًا شَدِيدًا مِّن لَّدُنْهُ وَيُبَشِّرَ ٱلْمُؤْمِنِينَ ٱلَّذِينَ يَعْمَلُونَ ٱلصَّٰلِحَٰتِ أَنَّ لَهُمْ أَجْرًا حَسَنًا (He hath made it) Straight (and Clear) in order that He may warn (the godless) of a terrible Punishment from Him, and that He may give Glad Tidings to the Believers who work righteous deeds, that they shall have a goodly Reward, مَّٰكِثِينَ فِيهِ أَبَدًا Further, that He may warn those (also) who say, "Allah hath begotten a son": مَّا لَهُم بِهِۦ مِنْ عِلْمٍ وَلَا لِءَابَآئِهِمْ ۚ كَبُرَتْ كَلِمَةً تَخْرُجُ مِنْ أَفْوَٰهِهِمْ ۚ إِن يَقُولُونَ إِلَّا كَذِبًا No knowledge have they of such a thing, nor had their fathers. It is a grievous thing that issues from their mouths as a saying what they say is nothing but falsehood!OK this are verses from your fabricated Bible: Matthew 27:46 New International Version 46 About three in the afternoon Jesus cried out in a loud voice, “Eli, Eli,[a] lema sabachthani?” (which means “My God, my God, why have you forsaken me?”).[b](A) Mark 11:12-25 New International Version Jesus Curses a Fig Tree and Clears the Temple Courts(A)(B)(C) 12 The next day as they were leaving Bethany, Jesus was hungry. 13 Seeing in the distance a fig tree in leaf, he went to find out if it had any fruit. When he reached it, he found nothing but leaves, because it was not the season for figs.(D) 14 Then he said to the tree, “May no one ever eat fruit from you again.” And his disciples heard him say it. A hungry God doesn't know about the Fig when it comes. On reaching Jerusalem, Jesus entered the temple courts and began driving out those who were buying and selling there. He overturned the tables of the money changers and the benches of those selling doves, 16 and would not allow anyone to carry merchandise through the temple courts. 17 And as he taught them, he said, “Is it not written: ‘My house will be called a house of prayer for all nations’[a]?(E) But you have made it ‘a den of robbers.’[b]”(F) 18 The chief priests and the teachers of the law heard this and began looking for a way to kill him, for they feared him,(G) because the whole crowd was amazed at his teaching.(H) 19 When evening came, Jesus and his disciples[c] went out of the city.(I) 20 In the morning, as they went along, they saw the fig tree withered from the roots. 21 Peter remembered and said to Jesus, “Rabbi,(J) look! The fig tree you cursed has withered!” 22 “Have faith in God,” Jesus answered. You doesn't understand you're Bible you're telling jokes. A God crying to a god ? A God Cursed a tree because he didn't know about the Fig a God was walking in streets and buying things and shoping for food then teatch thing they did want to kill God this are you're logic CHAPTER 25 VERSE 20 وَمَآ أَرْسَلْنَا قَبْلَكَ مِنَ ٱلْمُرْسَلِينَ إِلَّآ إِنَّهُمْ لَيَأْكُلُونَ ٱلطَّعَامَ وَيَمْشُونَ فِى ٱلْأَسْوَاقِ ۗ وَجَعَلْنَا بَعْضَكُمْ لِبَعْضٍ فِتْنَةً أَتَصْبِرُونَ ۗ وَكَانَ رَبُّكَ بَصِيرًا And the messengers whom We sent before thee were all (men) who ate food and walked through the streets: We have made some of you as a trial for others: will ye have patience? for Allah is One Who sees (all things). Yep there's no doubt that he's not God CHAPTER 25 VERSE 7 وَقَالُوا۟ مَالِ هَٰذَا ٱلرَّسُولِ يَأْكُلُ ٱلطَّعَامَ وَيَمْشِى فِى ٱلْأَسْوَاقِ ۙ لَوْلَآ أُنزِلَ إِلَيْهِ مَلَكٌ فَيَكُونَ مَعَهُۥ نَذِيرًا And they say: "What sort of a messenger is this, who eats food, and walks through the streets? Why has not an angel been sent down to him to give admonition with him? CHAPTER 2 VERSES 257_258 ٱللَّهُ وَلِىُّ ٱلَّذِينَ ءَامَنُوا۟ يُخْرِجُهُم مِّنَ ٱلظُّلُمَٰتِ إِلَى ٱلنُّورِ ۖ وَٱلَّذِينَ كَفَرُوٓا۟ أَوْلِيَآؤُهُمُ ٱلطَّٰغُوتُ يُخْرِجُونَهُم مِّنَ ٱلنُّورِ إِلَى ٱلظُّلُمَٰتِ ۗ أُو۟لَٰٓئِكَ أَصْحَٰبُ ٱلنَّارِ ۖ هُمْ فِيهَا خَٰلِدُونَ Allah is the Protector of those who have faith: from the depths of darkness He will lead them forth into light. Of those who reject faith the patrons are the evil ones: from light they will lead them forth into the depths of darkness. They will be companions of the fire, to dwell therein (For ever). أَلَمْ تَرَ إِلَى ٱلَّذِى حَآجَّ إِبْرَٰهِۦمَ فِى رَبِّهِۦٓ أَنْ ءَاتَىٰهُ ٱللَّهُ ٱلْمُلْكَ إِذْ قَالَ إِبْرَٰهِۦمُ رَبِّىَ ٱلَّذِى يُحْىِۦ وَيُمِيتُ قَالَ أَنَا۠ أُحْىِۦ وَأُمِيتُ ۖ قَالَ إِبْرَٰهِۦمُ فَإِنَّ ٱللَّهَ يَأْتِى بِٱلشَّمْسِ مِنَ ٱلْمَشْرِقِ فَأْتِ بِهَا مِنَ ٱلْمَغْرِبِ فَبُهِتَ ٱلَّذِى كَفَرَ ۗ وَٱللَّهُ لَا يَهْدِى ٱلْقَوْمَ ٱلظَّٰلِمِينَ Hast thou not Turned thy vision to one who disputed with Abraham About his Lord, because Allah had granted him power? Abraham said: "My Lord is He Who Giveth life and death." He said: "I give life and death". Said Abraham: "But it is Allah that causeth the sun to rise from the east: Do thou then cause him to rise from the West." Thus was he confounded who (in arrogance) rejected faith. Nor doth Allah Give guidance to a people unjust.
بسم الله الرحمن الرحيم It is a soft stone of the type of water stone in which the feet of the Prophet Ibrahim sank and the traces of his feet emerged from it, but as a result of people wiping in it the features of the feet were blurred. CHAPTER 2 VERSE 125 وَإِذْ جَعَلْنَا ٱلْبَيْتَ مَثَابَةً لِّلنَّاسِ وَأَمْنًا وَٱتَّخِذُوا۟ مِن مَّقَامِ إِبْرَٰهِۦمَ مُصَلًّى ۖ وَعَهِدْنَآ إِلَىٰٓ إِبْرَٰهِۦمَ وَإِسْمَٰعِيلَ أَن طَهِّرَا بَيْتِىَ لِلطَّآئِفِينَ وَٱلْعَٰكِفِينَ وَٱلرُّكَّعِ ٱلسُّجُودِ Remember We made the House a place of assembly for men and a place of safety; and take ye the station of Abraham as a place of prayer; and We covenanted with Abraham and Isma'il, that they should sanctify My House for those who compass it round, or use it as a retreat, or bow, or prostrate themselves (therein in prayer). CHAPTER 3 VERSES 96_97 إِنَّ أَوَّلَ بَيْتٍ وُضِعَ لِلنَّاسِ لَلَّذِى بِبَكَّةَ مُبَارَكًا وَهُدًى لِّلْعَٰلَمِينَ The first House (of worship) appointed for men was that at Bakka: Full of blessing and of guidance for all kinds of beings: فِيهِ ءَايَٰتٌۢ بَيِّنَٰتٌ مَّقَامُ إِبْرَٰهِيمَ ۖ وَمَن دَخَلَهُۥ كَانَ ءَامِنًا ۗ وَلِلَّهِ عَلَى ٱلنَّاسِ حِجُّ ٱلْبَيْتِ مَنِ ٱسْتَطَاعَ إِلَيْهِ سَبِيلًا ۚ وَمَن كَفَرَ فَإِنَّ ٱللَّهَ غَنِىٌّ عَنِ ٱلْعَٰلَمِينَ In it are Signs Manifest; (for example), the Station of Abraham; whoever enters it attains security; Pilgrimage thereto is a duty men owe to Allah,- those who can afford the journey; but if any deny faith, Allah stands not in need of any of His creatures. PSALM 84:1_6 How lovely is your dwelling place,(A) Lord Almighty! 2 My soul yearns,(B) even faints, for the courts of the Lord; my heart and my flesh cry out for the living God.(C) 3 Even the sparrow has found a home, and the swallow a nest for herself, where she may have her young- a place near your altar,(D) Lord Almighty,(E) my King(F) and my God.(G) 4 Blessed are those who dwell in your house; they are ever praising you.[c] 5 Blessed are those whose strength(H) is in you, whose hearts are set on pilgrimage.(I) 6 As they pass through the Valley of Baka, they make it a place of springs;(J) the autumn(K) rains also cover it with pools.[d] CHAPTER 2 VERSES 201_202 فَإِذَا قَضَيْتُم مَّنَٰسِكَكُمْ فَٱذْكُرُوا۟ ٱللَّهَ كَذِكْرِكُمْ ءَابَآءَكُمْ أَوْ أَشَدَّ ذِكْرًا ۗ فَمِنَ ٱلنَّاسِ مَن يَقُولُ رَبَّنَآ ءَاتِنَا فِى ٱلدُّنْيَا وَمَا لَهُۥ فِى ٱلْءَاخِرَةِ مِنْ خَلَٰقٍ So when ye have accomplished your holy rites, celebrate the praises of Allah, as ye used to celebrate the praises of your fathers,- yea, with far more Heart and soul. There are men who say: "Our Lord! Give us (Thy bounties) in this world!" but they will have no portion in the Hereafter. وَمِنْهُم مَّن يَقُولُ رَبَّنَآ ءَاتِنَا فِى ٱلدُّنْيَا حَسَنَةً وَفِى ٱلْءَاخِرَةِ حَسَنَةً وَقِنَا عَذَابَ ٱلنَّارِ And there are men who say: "Our Lord! Give us good in this world and good in the Hereafter, and defend us from the torment of the Fire!" أُو۟لَٰٓئِكَ لَهُمْ نَصِيبٌ مِّمَّا كَسَبُوا۟ ۚ وَٱللَّهُ سَرِيعُ ٱلْحِسَابِ these will be allotted what they have earned; and Allah is quick in account. CHAPTER 2 VERSES 146_147 ٱلَّذِينَ ءَاتَيْنَٰهُمُ ٱلْكِتَٰبَ يَعْرِفُونَهُۥ كَمَا يَعْرِفُونَ أَبْنَآءَهُمْ ۖ وَإِنَّ فَرِيقًا مِّنْهُمْ لَيَكْتُمُونَ ٱلْحَقَّ وَهُمْ يَعْلَمُونَ The people of the Book know this as they know their own sons; but some of them conceal the truth which they themselves know ٱلْحَقُّ مِن رَّبِّكَ ۖ فَلَا تَكُونَنَّ مِنَ ٱلْمُمْتَرِينَ The Truth is from thy Lord; so be not at all in doubt. CHAPTER 2 VERSES 100_101 أَوَكُلَّمَا عَٰهَدُوا۟ عَهْدًا نَّبَذَهُۥ فَرِيقٌ مِّنْهُم ۚ بَلْ أَكْثَرُهُمْ لَا يُؤْمِنُونَ Is it not (the case) that every time they make a covenant, some party among them throw it aside?- Nay, Most of them are faithless. وَلَمَّا جَآءَهُمْ رَسُولٌ مِّنْ عِندِ ٱللَّهِ مُصَدِّقٌ لِّمَا مَعَهُمْ نَبَذَ فَرِيقٌ مِّنَ ٱلَّذِينَ أُوتُوا۟ ٱلْكِتَٰبَ كِتَٰبَ ٱللَّهِ وَرَآءَ ظُهُورِهِمْ كَأَنَّهُمْ لَا يَعْلَمُونَ And when there came to them a messenger from Allah, confirming what was with them, a party of the people of the Book threw away the Book of Allah behind their backs, as if (it had been something) they did not know! THEY BEALIVE IN THEIR BOOKS WICH THEY MADE. CHAPTER 2 VERSES 78_79 وَمِنْهُمْ أُمِّيُّونَ لَا يَعْلَمُونَ ٱلْكِتَٰبَ إِلَّآ أَمَانِىَّ وَإِنْ هُمْ إِلَّا يَظُنُّونَ And there are among them illiterates, who know not the Book, but (see therein their own) desires, and they do nothing but conjecture. فَوَيْلٌ لِّلَّذِينَ يَكْتُبُونَ ٱلْكِتَٰبَ بِأَيْدِيهِمْ ثُمَّ يَقُولُونَ هَٰذَا مِنْ عِندِ ٱللَّهِ لِيَشْتَرُوا۟ بِهِۦ ثَمَنًا قَلِيلًا ۖ فَوَيْلٌ لَّهُم مِّمَّا كَتَبَتْ أَيْدِيهِمْ وَوَيْلٌ لَّهُم مِّمَّا يَكْسِبُونَ Then woe to those who write the Book with their own hands, and then say:"This is from Allah," to traffic with it for miserable price!- Woe to them for what their hands do write, and for the gain they make thereby. CHAPTER 3 VERSES 71_72 يَٰٓأَهْلَ ٱلْكِتَٰبِ لِمَ تَلْبِسُونَ ٱلْحَقَّ بِٱلْبَٰطِلِ وَتَكْتُمُونَ ٱلْحَقَّ وَأَنتُمْ تَعْلَمُونَ Ye People of the Book! Why do ye clothe Truth with falsehood, and conceal the Truth, while ye have knowledge? وَقَالَت طَّآئِفَةٌ مِّنْ أَهْلِ ٱلْكِتَٰبِ ءَامِنُوا۟ بِٱلَّذِىٓ أُنزِلَ عَلَى ٱلَّذِينَ ءَامَنُوا۟ وَجْهَ ٱلنَّهَارِ وَٱكْفُرُوٓا۟ ءَاخِرَهُۥ لَعَلَّهُمْ يَرْجِعُونَ A section of the People of the Book say: "Believe in the morning what is revealed to the believers, but reject it at the end of the day; perchance they may (themselves) Turn back; CHAPTER 3 VERSE 64 قُلْ يَٰٓأَهْلَ ٱلْكِتَٰبِ تَعَالَوْا۟ إِلَىٰ كَلِمَةٍ سَوَآءٍۭ بَيْنَنَا وَبَيْنَكُمْ أَلَّا نَعْبُدَ إِلَّا ٱللَّهَ وَلَا نُشْرِكَ بِهِۦ شَيْـًٔا وَلَا يَتَّخِذَ بَعْضُنَا بَعْضًا أَرْبَابًا مِّن دُونِ ٱللَّهِ ۚ فَإِن تَوَلَّوْا۟ فَقُولُوا۟ ٱشْهَدُوا۟ بِأَنَّا مُسْلِمُونَ Say: "O People of the Book! come to common terms as between us and you: That we worship none but Allah; that we associate no partners with him; that we erect not, from among ourselves, Lords and patrons other than Allah." If then they turn back, say ye: "Bear witness that we (at least) are Muslims (bowing to Allah's Will). يَٰٓأَهْلَ ٱلْكِتَٰبِ لِمَ تُحَآجُّونَ فِىٓ إِبْرَٰهِيمَ وَمَآ أُنزِلَتِ ٱلتَّوْرَىٰةُ وَٱلْإِنجِيلُ إِلَّا مِنۢ بَعْدِهِۦٓ ۚ أَفَلَا تَعْقِلُونَ Ye People of the Book! Why dispute ye about Abraham, when the Law and the Gospel Were not revealed Till after him? Have ye no understanding?
Spoiler alert genesis wasn’t copied from the ugaritic texts or from gilgamesh it’s it’s own thing, and you can believe or disbelieve in it but it clearly isn’t copied from those
There are many important points overlooked here. Papyrus (Plant material) Manuscripts would hardly last even 200 years under normal conditions but due to Egypt's dry condition somehow it survived other adversities like wars, termites and fire. While the Vellum Manuscripts made out of animal skin can last 1000s of years but it was very costly. So to write something the size of the complete bible on vellum was a grand project which only the imperial roman empire could afford. That's why all the complete Bible manuscripts comes after 313 AD when constantine legalized christianity. Before that the Diocletian Persecutions of 303 AD damaged many House Churches and the Papyrus manuscripts kept within them. This also has led to the destruction of a number of manuscripts before 303 AD.
If only one of these original papyrus manuscripts from the old and new testaments from a much easier date were blessed with heavenly characteristics to never decay and never be able to be destroyed by man in order to show their authenticity and reliability.
@@salah777 Your Quran was compiled and standardized over 200 years after Mohamed under the orders of Uthman and he supposedly ordered the burning of all the other copies. There’s no copy of Uthman’s Quran that survived to this day. Your current Quran in use today is from the 1924 standardized Egyptian edition of Hafs Quran. The same guy accused by your Islamic scholars of lying according to your Islamic sources. Ask yourself this question; Which account regarding Jesus is more logical to believe in? The 1st century Biblical account written by His followers who were eyewitnesses who walked and talked with Him. Or would you rather believe in a 7th century account regarding Isa (counterfeit Jesus) written over 600 years after Jesus by someone who never met him let alone from the same country? I’m sure you know the more logical answer to the question, but you Muslims are infamous for believing anything your pedophile warlord of a false prophet would say.
That was the first one that came to mind for me too. I imagine it's just a little bit too young to fit on the list. We'll call it number 11. And, yes, I second the call for a video about it.
Nag Hammadi ??? look up simony or Simon Magus followers "yes the one from ACTS". Gone over through Justin Myrter 100ad literature from the early church "pre Constintine and against heresies by irenaeus 100ad. Both wrote heavily about the false doctrines known at the time as Simony. Never before proven doctrine untill they found the Nag Hammadi scrolls
I remember my mother sometimes saying the words of the “Priestly Blessing” to us. I didn’t know what it was called until seeing your video. She was from a Jewish family but converted to Christianity..
It is very commonly used in Christian circles as well. We commonly used it as a closing blessing in the church where I was pastor for many years, not because it was my favourite, but because it had regularly been used since well before I arrived.
The Priestly Blessing is also used in lutheran services. I’m non-religious but grew up in a lutheran culture, so those words are almost a meme to me, but I always thought they were just something someone made up in the 1600s. To find out that they are the oldest preserved bible manuscript is king of mindblowing
Regarding the 'existence of Julius Caesar' tangent: we also have roman coins bearing the portrait of Julius Caesar, with his name written on them. Struck while he was alive, and, pretty obviously, in charge, or he wouldn't have gotten his face and name on these coins. You know, in case any one still has any doubt after that masterful video :)
But the methods of attack are so uncontrolled that I can attack any historical figure. Like i can say "if there was a coin with Zeus on it, does that mean Zeus is real?" or "don't the people making the coins have an incentive to perpetuate the Caesar myth?"
@@muskyoxes There is ample evidence, historical and otherwise, that Roman coins were struck with the face of the reigning emperor. Even the Bible itself (New Testament, of course) uses this particular practice to make a theological point, via the "Render unto Caesar" story.
@@MarsJenkar I side with the video that both Caesar and Jesus were obviously real people, and i only intended to point out that nothing will stop a myther. All your evidence can be wiped away by techniques that Jesus mythers use. The "reigning emperor" could be a mythological construction designed to make his traits and stories more easily malleable for effective rule. Who's to say? A myther always has a way out.
I was joking. Sheesh! Didn't ANYONE catch the absurdity of my statement? No. I feel sad for all of you. You could have laughed, instead of making ridiculous assumptions and needless counter arguments based on a joke. Lighten up.
Your awesome! Why couldn’t 90’s education be this comprehensive!! You rock and I love your coverage of this topic and tons of others! Your one of the most professional UA-camr I’ve watched!
I study history and religious education at a university in germany and what you presented in your video is 100% congruent to what professors tell us. I'm happy to see such high quality content.
Dr. Bart Ehrman, Distinguished Professor of Religious Studies at the University of North Carolina: "Christian scholars of the Bible, including the top Protestant and Catholic scholars of America, will tell you that *THE BIBLE IS FULL OF LIES* , even if they refuse to use the term. And here is the truth: Many of the books of the New Testament were written by people who lied about their identity, claiming to be a famous apostle - Peter, Paul or James - knowing full well they were someone else. In modern parlance, that is a lie, and a book written by someone who lies about his identity is a forgery." - Who Wrote The Bible and Why It Matters
What is interesting with the New Testament is that 25 out of the 27 books were quoted from from about 55 to 115 A.D, by four men. Paul of Tarsus, Clement of Rome, Polycarp and Ignatius. That Paul quotes from Luke twice shows that the gospels were written maybe within 20 years of Jesus’ death. As Paul’s writings are dated to the 50’s, and he quotes from Lukes gospel which as his intro states uses eyewitness sources, we find accounts from Matthew and Mark in his work. This puts them in the 40’s or even earlier.
@@farmercraig6080 Nope---FAIL! Prove any of your claims. Show me any manuscript dated to the 1st century. For example, you have nothing written by ‘Paul’, only manuscripts by anonymous, biased scribes dated hundreds of years after the supposed events, many of which are proven forgeries IN THEIR ENTIRETY, and none of which you can prove that even a single word of the text originated with ‘Paul’ in the 1st century. Dr. William O. Walker, Professor Emeritus of Religion, Trinity University: “First, not a single early manuscript of an individual Pauline letter has survived...All we can KNOW WITH CERTAINTY is that the surviving text of the Pauline letters is the text promoted-and perhaps produced-by the historical winners in the theological and ecclesiastical struggles of the second and third centuries...What the earlier text of Paul's letters MAY HAVE BEEN remains, probably forever, shrouded in the mists of obscurity. Suppression and destruction of earlier manuscripts would suggest, however, that these manuscripts may have differed in significant ways from the standardized text that survived…In short, it can no longer simply be assumed that ANY passage was an original part of the letter in which it now appears, or indeed that it is authentically Pauline.” - Interpolations in the Pauline Letters.
@@farmercraig6080 Regarding 'Polycarp', you've been deceived by proven liars and frauds. Dr. Bart Ehrman, “The Martyrdom of Polycarp was long believed to be an eyewitness report produced not long after the event itself, often dated to 155 or 156 CE. Recent scholarship, however, has argued that the narrative is a forgery produced sometime in the early third century.” - The Triumph of Christianity, 2018. Dr. Candida Moss, professor of early Christianity at the University of Notre Dame: “the earliest martyrdom account [Martyrdom of Polycarp]…is a pious fraud. It pretends to be written by eyewitnesses, but in fact it was not…It is a theological narrative written perhaps as late as a hundred years after the events it describes…At this point, we have to ask ourselves, what can we trust about Polycarp himself?…we have to face the possibility that the martyr we admire is the invention of the author. He is a pious, appreciative, and earnest invention, but an invention nonetheless.” - The Myth of Persecution: How Early Christians Invented a Story of Martyrdom
11:40 Fun bit of trivia: The Oxford and Cambridge colleges of Magdalen and Magdalene respectively are pronounced “Mawd-lin” which causes some confusion in the cities, as Oxford also has an unrelated St MaryMagdalen Church and Magdalen Street which are often mispronounced as “mawd-lin” but should actually be pronounced “mag-da-lin”
JESUS B PEACE ON HIM WAS POOPING AND PEE WAS EATING SLEEPING LIKE ANY ONE HE USE TO POOP EVERY TIME WHEN NATURE WORKS HE USED TO PEE AND SLEEP IGNORANT ADRESS PEOPLE'S OF NO REASONS. CHAPTER 18 VERSES 1_5 ٱلْحَمْدُ لِلَّهِ ٱلَّذِىٓ أَنزَلَ عَلَىٰ عَبْدِهِ ٱلْكِتَٰبَ وَلَمْ يَجْعَل لَّهُۥ عِوَجَا ۜ Praise be to Allah, Who hath sent to His Servant the Book, and hath allowed therein no Crookedness: قَيِّمًا لِّيُنذِرَ بَأْسًا شَدِيدًا مِّن لَّدُنْهُ وَيُبَشِّرَ ٱلْمُؤْمِنِينَ ٱلَّذِينَ يَعْمَلُونَ ٱلصَّٰلِحَٰتِ أَنَّ لَهُمْ أَجْرًا حَسَنًا (He hath made it) Straight (and Clear) in order that He may warn (the godless) of a terrible Punishment from Him, and that He may give Glad Tidings to the Believers who work righteous deeds, that they shall have a goodly Reward, مَّٰكِثِينَ فِيهِ أَبَدًا Further, that He may warn those (also) who say, "Allah hath begotten a son": مَّا لَهُم بِهِۦ مِنْ عِلْمٍ وَلَا لِءَابَآئِهِمْ ۚ كَبُرَتْ كَلِمَةً تَخْرُجُ مِنْ أَفْوَٰهِهِمْ ۚ إِن يَقُولُونَ إِلَّا كَذِبًا No knowledge have they of such a thing, nor had their fathers. It is a grievous thing that issues from their mouths as a saying what they say is nothing but falsehood!
found your channel accidentally, immediately subscribed. Very interesting, very well done, and not dogmatic. Grew up catholic but dropped out age 14 (when pastor called me a heretic for questioning the trinity). Now belong to an episcopal church, but not practicing. Prefer to study on my own. With help from people like you. Thank you.
brilliantly done. You might add something on how ancient manuscripts were copied, from master copy on parchment to working copies on cheaper materials, etc. For instance, Middle Kingdom Egyptians took about 200 years to wear out an original master parchment by the mere act of copying to preserve the texts and records. Master copyists would make the master parchments, lower scribes would make the lesser copies.
Imagine being a lowly scribe whose name has been lost to history, but whose handwriting still stands as evidence of facts you never witnessed yourself. I hope they are proud, wherever they may be.
@@lucaskitamura614 Calling absurd claims by anonymous, biased scribes "fact" is either ignorant or a deliberate lie. Uncorroborated STORIES are not 'facts', and what you really have are the least credible kind of claims, which aren't evidence that Jesus even existed, let alone that his mother was impregnated by a god, or that he had superpowers, or that his rotting corpse magically returned to life. If it says so in a book with a talking snake, talking donkey, 900-year-old men, virgin birth and zombies, written by anonymous, biased members of a death cult, then it MUST be a reliable source?!! *SUCKER* - “a person who believes everything they are told and is therefore easy to deceive” - Cambridge Dictionary
I would like to see something on scripture quoted by the early church fathers, and the dates given. These would not necessarily be manuscripts, but would have direct quotes from both the Old and New Testament. It might even be older than the manuscripts presented for the NT.
Most of are during the time of the apostles or just after including clements first epistle dated to around 96 AD, Ignatius and Polycarp are all dated before 110 AD. All were taught under the apostles or by people who knew Yeshua directly.
@@WoyBoy12 You've been misinformed, and the letters of Ignatius are forgeries: “a significant number of Ignatian researchers views the Ignatian letters as pseudepigraphic [forged] compositions and dates them to the end of the second century.”- The Date and Authenticity of the Ignatian Letters: An Outline of Recent Discussions (2020). Dr. Bart Ehman, “And there were the thirteen letters of Ignatius of Antioch, six of them forged and the others falsely and severely interpolated...And the six forged letters of the Long Recension of Ignatius were intermingled with the authentic seven, which were themselves interpolated by the forger of the six. In both these instances the perpetrators were remarkably successful; their handiwork was not uncovered until relatively modern times….The author forged these letters to show what Ignatius would have said as a leading heresiologist of his time, but more than this, as a reputed authority, both as the bishop of a major see, and above all as one of the first known Christian martyrs” ” - Forgery and Counterforgery.
@@WoyBoy12 The Polycarp story is fictional and a forgery. Dr. Bart Ehrman, “The Martyrdom of Polycarp was long believed to be an eyewitness report produced not long after the event itself, often dated to 155 or 156 CE. Recent scholarship, however, has argued that the narrative is a forgery produced sometime in the early third century.” - The Triumph of Christianity, 2018. Dr. Candida Moss, professor of early Christianity at the University of Notre Dame: “the earliest martyrdom account [Martyrdom of Polycarp]…is a pious fraud. It pretends to be written by eyewitnesses, but in fact it was not…It is a theological narrative written perhaps as late as a hundred years after the events it describes…At this point, we have to ask ourselves, what can we trust about Polycarp himself?…we have to face the possibility that the martyr we admire is the invention of the author. He is a pious, appreciative, and earnest invention, but an invention nonetheless.” - The Myth of Persecution: How Early Christians Invented a Story of Martyrdom
I spent a week in Dublin some years ago, and I visited the Chester Beatty library twice in that time. Along with those early Christian papyri there are early Islamic texts, Chinese, Indic. It's a fabulous place, and highly recommend.
بسم الله الرحمن الرحيم JESUS B PEACE ON HIM WAS POOPING AND PEE WAS EATING SLEEPING LIKE ANY ONE HE USE TO POOP EVERY TIME WHEN NATURE WORKS HE USED TO PEE AND SLEEP IGNORANT ADRESS PEOPLE'S OF NO REASONS. CHAPTER 18 VERSES 1_5 ٱلْحَمْدُ لِلَّهِ ٱلَّذِىٓ أَنزَلَ عَلَىٰ عَبْدِهِ ٱلْكِتَٰبَ وَلَمْ يَجْعَل لَّهُۥ عِوَجَا ۜ Praise be to Allah, Who hath sent to His Servant the Book, and hath allowed therein no Crookedness: قَيِّمًا لِّيُنذِرَ بَأْسًا شَدِيدًا مِّن لَّدُنْهُ وَيُبَشِّرَ ٱلْمُؤْمِنِينَ ٱلَّذِينَ يَعْمَلُونَ ٱلصَّٰلِحَٰتِ أَنَّ لَهُمْ أَجْرًا حَسَنًا (He hath made it) Straight (and Clear) in order that He may warn (the godless) of a terrible Punishment from Him, and that He may give Glad Tidings to the Believers who work righteous deeds, that they shall have a goodly Reward, مَّٰكِثِينَ فِيهِ أَبَدًا Further, that He may warn those (also) who say, "Allah hath begotten a son": مَّا لَهُم بِهِۦ مِنْ عِلْمٍ وَلَا لِءَابَآئِهِمْ ۚ كَبُرَتْ كَلِمَةً تَخْرُجُ مِنْ أَفْوَٰهِهِمْ ۚ إِن يَقُولُونَ إِلَّا كَذِبًا No knowledge have they of such a thing, nor had their fathers. It is a grievous thing that issues from their mouths as a saying what they say is nothing but falsehood!OK this are verses from your fabricated Bible: Matthew 27:46 New International Version 46 About three in the afternoon Jesus cried out in a loud voice, “Eli, Eli,[a] lema sabachthani?” (which means “My God, my God, why have you forsaken me?”).[b](A) Mark 11:12-25 New International Version Jesus Curses a Fig Tree and Clears the Temple Courts(A)(B)(C) 12 The next day as they were leaving Bethany, Jesus was hungry. 13 Seeing in the distance a fig tree in leaf, he went to find out if it had any fruit. When he reached it, he found nothing but leaves, because it was not the season for figs.(D) 14 Then he said to the tree, “May no one ever eat fruit from you again.” And his disciples heard him say it. A hungry God doesn't know about the Fig when it comes.
You could do a video about the oldest documentation that we have about Ancient Israel. An interesting document is the Hezekiah inscription found at Silwan in Jerusalem. It describes how king Hezekiah build the water channel below the Temple Mount, and it is written with ancient hebrew letters. It says that two groups of men started diggin at opposite extremes, and they were reunited in the middle, so the inscription was found at the place they were reunited. Sorry about my english. Another interesting document is the LMLK seals (LaMelekh: belonging to the King). And another plethora of coins and seals, written in ancient hebrew letters. I see that some of these documents you briefly talked about before, but it would be nice a more complete video about them. Keep up the good work
Hugely interesting video, I was aware of the fact that most religious texts were mauscripts from years later, However, I didn't really realise that other non-religious text were from so much later. I'd love to see an exploration of Muslim and other religious text, and general writings from History in the same manner, excellent video as always.
@@ray_light44 Nope.. Not even a single complete quran manuscript with all the 114 chapters and 6236 verses even within the 10th century. That is 400 years after the standard islamic narrative about islam's origin.
@@ray_light44 Typical Muslim lying for the sake of their false prophet. Your Quran was compiled over 200 years later after Mohamed under the order of Uthman and he supposedly also ordered the burning of all the other Quranic copies. There’s no copy of Uthman’s Quran that survived to this day. Your current Quran in use today is from the 1924 standardized Egyptian edition of Hafs Quran. The same guy accused by your Islamic scholars of lying according to your Islamic sources.
I enjoyed this video. A couple of corrections (maybe someone else caught these, I haven’t had time to go through all the comments). Your date of discovery for the Bodmer and Beatty papyri are accidentally reversed. The Bodmer papyri are thought to have been discovered in 1952 (as reported by James Robinson in his book The Story of the Bodmer Papyri). More specifically, P66 was purchased in 1955 and likely discovered in 1954. It was the Beatty papyri that was discovered in the 1930s. You accidentally have those two dates switched in the video. Great video. Really enjoyed it.
one other notable manuscript is the wulfila bible from the 4th century, which is notable for being written in gothic, an extinct language that has only little writing surviving to this day. It is as such very valuable for linguistics
Or the fulacrapa videos like this one, lie and do not the truth! 40 writers wrote the Bible, no contradictions proves God wrote the Bible and you’ll have no excuse on judgment day ! Just like in March of last year, we keep finding more copies of the Bible like we keep finding more dead things buried in the ground like there was a worldwide flood! So as time goes by we keep finding more evidence for God of the Bible, not less! The same cannot be said for evolution; all of Darwin’s black boxes are open and they are empty!
@@May3yad3 no contradictions in the Bible , that website shows they are taken out of context! just from numerical errors but it has been well preserved beyond the pail of history! What a gigantic miracle! That means God has squeaky clean hands to throw you in hell based on that one fact alone! and God of the Bible has left evidence in every category you can think of science archaeology manuscript evidence statistic probability psychology etc. Try me I dare you
JESUS B PEACE ON HIM WAS POOPING AND PEE WAS EATING SLEEPING LIKE ANY ONE HE USE TO POOP EVERY TIME WHEN NATURE WORKS HE USED TO PEE AND SLEEP IGNORANT ADRESS PEOPLE'S OF NO REASONS. CHAPTER 18 VERSES 1_5 ٱلْحَمْدُ لِلَّهِ ٱلَّذِىٓ أَنزَلَ عَلَىٰ عَبْدِهِ ٱلْكِتَٰبَ وَلَمْ يَجْعَل لَّهُۥ عِوَجَا ۜ Praise be to Allah, Who hath sent to His Servant the Book, and hath allowed therein no Crookedness: قَيِّمًا لِّيُنذِرَ بَأْسًا شَدِيدًا مِّن لَّدُنْهُ وَيُبَشِّرَ ٱلْمُؤْمِنِينَ ٱلَّذِينَ يَعْمَلُونَ ٱلصَّٰلِحَٰتِ أَنَّ لَهُمْ أَجْرًا حَسَنًا (He hath made it) Straight (and Clear) in order that He may warn (the godless) of a terrible Punishment from Him, and that He may give Glad Tidings to the Believers who work righteous deeds, that they shall have a goodly Reward, مَّٰكِثِينَ فِيهِ أَبَدًا Further, that He may warn those (also) who say, "Allah hath begotten a son": مَّا لَهُم بِهِۦ مِنْ عِلْمٍ وَلَا لِءَابَآئِهِمْ ۚ كَبُرَتْ كَلِمَةً تَخْرُجُ مِنْ أَفْوَٰهِهِمْ ۚ إِن يَقُولُونَ إِلَّا كَذِبًا No knowledge have they of such a thing, nor had their fathers. It is a grievous thing that issues from their mouths as a saying what they say is nothing but falsehood!OK this are verses from your fabricated Bible: Matthew 27:46 New International Version 46 About three in the afternoon Jesus cried out in a loud voice, “Eli, Eli,[a] lema sabachthani?” (which means “My God, my God, why have you forsaken me?”).[b](A) Mark 11:12-25 New International Version Jesus Curses a Fig Tree and Clears the Temple Courts(A)(B)(C) 12 The next day as they were leaving Bethany, Jesus was hungry. 13 Seeing in the distance a fig tree in leaf, he went to find out if it had any fruit. When he reached it, he found nothing but leaves, because it was not the season for figs.(D) 14 Then he said to the tree, “May no one ever eat fruit from you again.” And his disciples heard him say it. A hungry God doesn't know about the Fig when it comes. On reaching Jerusalem, Jesus entered the temple courts and began driving out those who were buying and selling there. He overturned the tables of the money changers and the benches of those selling doves, 16 and would not allow anyone to carry merchandise through the temple courts. 17 And as he taught them, he said, “Is it not written: ‘My house will be called a house of prayer for all nations’[a]?(E) But you have made it ‘a den of robbers.’[b]”(F) 18 The chief priests and the teachers of the law heard this and began looking for a way to kill him, for they feared him,(G) because the whole crowd was amazed at his teaching.(H) 19 When evening came, Jesus and his disciples[c] went out of the city.(I) 20 In the morning, as they went along, they saw the fig tree withered from the roots. 21 Peter remembered and said to Jesus, “Rabbi,(J) look! The fig tree you cursed has withered!” 22 “Have faith in God,” Jesus answered. You doesn't understand you're Bible you're telling jokes. A God crying to a god ? A God Cursed a tree because he didn't know about the Fig a God was walking in streets and buying things and shoping for food then teatch thing they did want to kill God this are you're logic CHAPTER 25 VERSE 20 وَمَآ أَرْسَلْنَا قَبْلَكَ مِنَ ٱلْمُرْسَلِينَ إِلَّآ إِنَّهُمْ لَيَأْكُلُونَ ٱلطَّعَامَ وَيَمْشُونَ فِى ٱلْأَسْوَاقِ ۗ وَجَعَلْنَا بَعْضَكُمْ لِبَعْضٍ فِتْنَةً أَتَصْبِرُونَ ۗ وَكَانَ رَبُّكَ بَصِيرًا And the messengers whom We sent before thee were all (men) who ate food and walked through the streets: We have made some of you as a trial for others: will ye have patience? for Allah is One Who sees (all things). Yep there's no doubt that he's not God CHAPTER 25 VERSE 7 وَقَالُوا۟ مَالِ هَٰذَا ٱلرَّسُولِ يَأْكُلُ ٱلطَّعَامَ وَيَمْشِى فِى ٱلْأَسْوَاقِ ۙ لَوْلَآ أُنزِلَ إِلَيْهِ مَلَكٌ فَيَكُونَ مَعَهُۥ نَذِيرًا And they say: "What sort of a messenger is this, who eats food, and walks through the streets? Why has not an angel been sent down to him to give admonition with him?مَا كَانَ لِبَشَرٍ أَن يُؤْتِيَهُ ٱللَّـهُ ٱلْكِتَـٰبَ وَٱلْحُكْمَ وَٱلنُّبُوَّةَ ثُمَّ يَقُولَ لِلنَّاسِ كُونُوا۟ عِبَادًا لِّى مِن دُونِ ٱللَّـهِ وَلَـٰكِن كُونُوا۟ رَبَّـٰنِيِّـۧنَ بِمَا كُنتُمْ تُعَلِّمُونَ ٱلْكِتَـٰبَ وَبِمَا كُنتُمْ تَدْرُسُونَ It is not (possible) that a man, to whom is given the Book, and Wisdom, and the prophetic office, should say to people: "Be ye my worshippers rather than Allah's": on the contrary (He would say) "Be ye worshippers of Him Who is truly the Cherisher of all: For ye have taught the Book and ye have studied it earnestly."
I think we have to apply the same rule of quality over quantity to the early 1st to 5th century writings as we do to all other texts. That being that the condition of the texts is relatively irrelevant, their very existence leads us to the understanding that humans were around that decided it was important to write down those events
No Christian apologists actually question the content of other historical documents as you supposed, it's just points to the authenticity of the bible. The bible and its contents are (I believe unfairly) scrutinized much more than the other historical texts in an effort to dismiss them theologically.
I'm not a theist but really enjoyed this presentation. Regardless of belief, the Bible has played (and still does) a huge role for good or bad in shaping western or European culture and on that, the book or rather IMO A Library in a single volume, its history, origins and its contextual criticism should be of great value and time well spent. Some years back I discovered the British Museum's website with Codex Sinaiticus and found it a valuable resource, even for those like myself who lack any expertise with such older text and unfamiliar language. Can't encourage people of faith or lack of faith more to spend a minute or two taking a look at this marvelous text from humanity's past.
Now I want to see a timeline tracing the origin of the text, when a manuscript was written, and when that manuscript was discovered. Preferably with all ten of these examples in parallel (and, heck, alongside the McDowells' examples).
Despite being an atheist, I find your videos on various religious topics and texts to be extremely interesting. Your series on "who wrote the bible & quran" as well as this video are truly spellbinding! Thank you so much for this amazing content!
Michele, I think the best way to try to convince Queck of something would be to have a respectful discussion about it. I think what you’ve commented comes across as stripping them of their dignity as a person by assuming that simply stating something will convince them it is true, versus engaging with them in a way that acknowledges their ability to reason and discern. Just a thought.
@@michelemcguire8995 lmaooo your funny that's false. If god was real he would want us to be a good person, not believe in him. Or else he isn't a god. Also Hinduism is better because Christians say non Christians go to hell, Muslims say non Muslims are bad, but Hindus say everyone is your family and everyone is one, whether you believe or not, therefore it better
JESUS B PEACE ON HIM WAS POOPING AND PEE WAS EATING SLEEPING LIKE ANY ONE HE USE TO POOP EVERY TIME WHEN NATURE WORKS HE USED TO PEE AND SLEEP IGNORANT ADRESS PEOPLE'S OF NO REASONS. CHAPTER 18 VERSES 1_5 ٱلْحَمْدُ لِلَّهِ ٱلَّذِىٓ أَنزَلَ عَلَىٰ عَبْدِهِ ٱلْكِتَٰبَ وَلَمْ يَجْعَل لَّهُۥ عِوَجَا ۜ Praise be to Allah, Who hath sent to His Servant the Book, and hath allowed therein no Crookedness: قَيِّمًا لِّيُنذِرَ بَأْسًا شَدِيدًا مِّن لَّدُنْهُ وَيُبَشِّرَ ٱلْمُؤْمِنِينَ ٱلَّذِينَ يَعْمَلُونَ ٱلصَّٰلِحَٰتِ أَنَّ لَهُمْ أَجْرًا حَسَنًا (He hath made it) Straight (and Clear) in order that He may warn (the godless) of a terrible Punishment from Him, and that He may give Glad Tidings to the Believers who work righteous deeds, that they shall have a goodly Reward, مَّٰكِثِينَ فِيهِ أَبَدًا Further, that He may warn those (also) who say, "Allah hath begotten a son": مَّا لَهُم بِهِۦ مِنْ عِلْمٍ وَلَا لِءَابَآئِهِمْ ۚ كَبُرَتْ كَلِمَةً تَخْرُجُ مِنْ أَفْوَٰهِهِمْ ۚ إِن يَقُولُونَ إِلَّا كَذِبًا No knowledge have they of such a thing, nor had their fathers. It is a grievous thing that issues from their mouths as a saying what they say is nothing but falsehood!OK this are verses from your fabricated Bible: Matthew 27:46 New International Version 46 About three in the afternoon Jesus cried out in a loud voice, “Eli, Eli,[a] lema sabachthani?” (which means “My God, my God, why have you forsaken me?”).[b](A) Mark 11:12-25 New International Version Jesus Curses a Fig Tree and Clears the Temple Courts(A)(B)(C) 12 The next day as they were leaving Bethany, Jesus was hungry. 13 Seeing in the distance a fig tree in leaf, he went to find out if it had any fruit. When he reached it, he found nothing but leaves, because it was not the season for figs.(D) 14 Then he said to the tree, “May no one ever eat fruit from you again.” And his disciples heard him say it. A hungry God doesn't know about the Fig when it comes. On reaching Jerusalem, Jesus entered the temple courts and began driving out those who were buying and selling there. He overturned the tables of the money changers and the benches of those selling doves, 16 and would not allow anyone to carry merchandise through the temple courts. 17 And as he taught them, he said, “Is it not written: ‘My house will be called a house of prayer for all nations’[a]?(E) But you have made it ‘a den of robbers.’[b]”(F) 18 The chief priests and the teachers of the law heard this and began looking for a way to kill him, for they feared him,(G) because the whole crowd was amazed at his teaching.(H) 19 When evening came, Jesus and his disciples[c] went out of the city.(I) 20 In the morning, as they went along, they saw the fig tree withered from the roots. 21 Peter remembered and said to Jesus, “Rabbi,(J) look! The fig tree you cursed has withered!” 22 “Have faith in God,” Jesus answered. You doesn't understand you're Bible you're telling jokes. A God crying to a god ? A God Cursed a tree because he didn't know about the Fig a God was walking in streets and buying things and shoping for food then teatch thing they did want to kill God this are you're logic CHAPTER 25 VERSE 20 وَمَآ أَرْسَلْنَا قَبْلَكَ مِنَ ٱلْمُرْسَلِينَ إِلَّآ إِنَّهُمْ لَيَأْكُلُونَ ٱلطَّعَامَ وَيَمْشُونَ فِى ٱلْأَسْوَاقِ ۗ وَجَعَلْنَا بَعْضَكُمْ لِبَعْضٍ فِتْنَةً أَتَصْبِرُونَ ۗ وَكَانَ رَبُّكَ بَصِيرًا And the messengers whom We sent before thee were all (men) who ate food and walked through the streets: We have made some of you as a trial for others: will ye have patience? for Allah is One Who sees (all things). Yep there's no doubt that he's not God CHAPTER 25 VERSE 7 وَقَالُوا۟ مَالِ هَٰذَا ٱلرَّسُولِ يَأْكُلُ ٱلطَّعَامَ وَيَمْشِى فِى ٱلْأَسْوَاقِ ۙ لَوْلَآ أُنزِلَ إِلَيْهِ مَلَكٌ فَيَكُونَ مَعَهُۥ نَذِيرًا And they say: "What sort of a messenger is this, who eats food, and walks through the streets? Why has not an angel been sent down to him to give admonition with him?
I was going to request this and here I found you already made it on the same day! That's it, I'm recommending you to my family members who are historians. Side note: I wish my teachers in school used charts more before I got to college. 😅
JESUS B PEACE ON HIM WAS POOPING AND PEE WAS EATING SLEEPING LIKE ANY ONE HE USE TO POOP EVERY TIME WHEN NATURE WORKS HE USED TO PEE AND SLEEP IGNORANT ADRESS PEOPLE'S OF NO REASONS. CHAPTER 18 VERSES 1_5 ٱلْحَمْدُ لِلَّهِ ٱلَّذِىٓ أَنزَلَ عَلَىٰ عَبْدِهِ ٱلْكِتَٰبَ وَلَمْ يَجْعَل لَّهُۥ عِوَجَا ۜ Praise be to Allah, Who hath sent to His Servant the Book, and hath allowed therein no Crookedness: قَيِّمًا لِّيُنذِرَ بَأْسًا شَدِيدًا مِّن لَّدُنْهُ وَيُبَشِّرَ ٱلْمُؤْمِنِينَ ٱلَّذِينَ يَعْمَلُونَ ٱلصَّٰلِحَٰتِ أَنَّ لَهُمْ أَجْرًا حَسَنًا (He hath made it) Straight (and Clear) in order that He may warn (the godless) of a terrible Punishment from Him, and that He may give Glad Tidings to the Believers who work righteous deeds, that they shall have a goodly Reward, مَّٰكِثِينَ فِيهِ أَبَدًا Further, that He may warn those (also) who say, "Allah hath begotten a son": مَّا لَهُم بِهِۦ مِنْ عِلْمٍ وَلَا لِءَابَآئِهِمْ ۚ كَبُرَتْ كَلِمَةً تَخْرُجُ مِنْ أَفْوَٰهِهِمْ ۚ إِن يَقُولُونَ إِلَّا كَذِبًا No knowledge have they of such a thing, nor had their fathers. It is a grievous thing that issues from their mouths as a saying what they say is nothing but falsehood!OK this are verses from your fabricated Bible: Matthew 27:46 New International Version 46 About three in the afternoon Jesus cried out in a loud voice, “Eli, Eli,[a] lema sabachthani?” (which means “My God, my God, why have you forsaken me?”).[b](A) Mark 11:12-25 New International Version Jesus Curses a Fig Tree and Clears the Temple Courts(A)(B)(C) 12 The next day as they were leaving Bethany, Jesus was hungry. 13 Seeing in the distance a fig tree in leaf, he went to find out if it had any fruit. When he reached it, he found nothing but leaves, because it was not the season for figs.(D) 14 Then he said to the tree, “May no one ever eat fruit from you again.” And his disciples heard him say it. A hungry God doesn't know about the Fig when it comes. On reaching Jerusalem, Jesus entered the temple courts and began driving out those who were buying and selling there. He overturned the tables of the money changers and the benches of those selling doves, 16 and would not allow anyone to carry merchandise through the temple courts. 17 And as he taught them, he said, “Is it not written: ‘My house will be called a house of prayer for all nations’[a]?(E) But you have made it ‘a den of robbers.’[b]”(F) 18 The chief priests and the teachers of the law heard this and began looking for a way to kill him, for they feared him,(G) because the whole crowd was amazed at his teaching.(H) 19 When evening came, Jesus and his disciples[c] went out of the city.(I) 20 In the morning, as they went along, they saw the fig tree withered from the roots. 21 Peter remembered and said to Jesus, “Rabbi,(J) look! The fig tree you cursed has withered!” 22 “Have faith in God,” Jesus answered. You doesn't understand you're Bible you're telling jokes. A God crying to a god ? A God Cursed a tree because he didn't know about the Fig a God was walking in streets and buying things and shoping for food then teatch thing they did want to kill God this are you're logic CHAPTER 25 VERSE 20 وَمَآ أَرْسَلْنَا قَبْلَكَ مِنَ ٱلْمُرْسَلِينَ إِلَّآ إِنَّهُمْ لَيَأْكُلُونَ ٱلطَّعَامَ وَيَمْشُونَ فِى ٱلْأَسْوَاقِ ۗ وَجَعَلْنَا بَعْضَكُمْ لِبَعْضٍ فِتْنَةً أَتَصْبِرُونَ ۗ وَكَانَ رَبُّكَ بَصِيرًا And the messengers whom We sent before thee were all (men) who ate food and walked through the streets: We have made some of you as a trial for others: will ye have patience? for Allah is One Who sees (all things). Yep there's no doubt that he's not God CHAPTER 25 VERSE 7 وَقَالُوا۟ مَالِ هَٰذَا ٱلرَّسُولِ يَأْكُلُ ٱلطَّعَامَ وَيَمْشِى فِى ٱلْأَسْوَاقِ ۙ لَوْلَآ أُنزِلَ إِلَيْهِ مَلَكٌ فَيَكُونَ مَعَهُۥ نَذِيرًا And they say: "What sort of a messenger is this, who eats food, and walks through the streets? Why has not an angel been sent down to him to give admonition with him?
@@violetsonja5938 you're welcome 😊 CHAPTER 18 VERSE 29 وَقُلِ ٱلْحَقُّ مِن رَّبِّكُمْ ۖ فَمَن شَآءَ فَلْيُؤْمِن وَمَن شَآءَ فَلْيَكْفُرْ ۚ إِنَّآ أَعْتَدْنَا لِلظَّٰلِمِينَ نَارًا أَحَاطَ بِهِمْ سُرَادِقُهَا ۚ وَإِن يَسْتَغِيثُوا۟ يُغَاثُوا۟ بِمَآءٍ كَٱلْمُهْلِ يَشْوِى ٱلْوُجُوهَ ۚ بِئْسَ ٱلشَّرَابُ وَسَآءَتْ مُرْتَفَقًاSay, "The truth is from your Lord": Let him who will believe, and let him who will, reject (it): for the wrong-doers We have prepared a Fire whose (smoke and flames), like the walls and roof of a tent, will hem them in: if they implore relief they will be granted water like melted brass, that will scald their faces, how dreadful the drink! How uncomfortable a couch to recline on! CHAPTER 16 VERSE 82 فَإِن تَوَلَّوْا۟ فَإِنَّمَا عَلَيْكَ ٱلْبَلَٰغُ ٱلْمُبِينُ But if they turn away, thy duty is only to preach the clear Message.
Billy Graham’s statement was not just based on New Testament manuscript evidence. There are significant extra-biblical references to Jesus and the teachings of early Christians. We also should make note of things such as how the Apostles went from depressed and scared followers after the death of Christ, to bold, outspoken teachers of the Gospel, who not only all taught the same message but were all willing to (and most did) die torturous deaths for those things they believed and taught. Nearly all historians, even the atheistic ones agree the evidence that Jesus was a historical figure is beyond doubt.
A note regarding the reliability of the Old Testament: Although there is little variation between the Dead Sea Scrolls and the Masoretic, it doesn't mean we have the original text. The video was correct in saying its the same text that Jesus had, but not necessarily the same text say Isaiah wrote down. Ancient texts like the OT and NT are most fluid right after they are created and become standardised later. Both the OT and NT show dozens of signs of editing, interpolations, omissions and such. And the septuagint has traces of the fluidity of the text still in the 3rd and 2nd centuries BCE as for ex. Jeremiah and Ezra differ quite a bit from the Masoretic. Sadly, we don't have manuscripts from the most volatile period of these books. If we had, our Bibles would probably look wholly different. So the old fundamentalist trope that the Bible hasn't changed is misleading.
----- > Koine Greek was the universal language in the 1st century. Hebrew was still used in the Temple but most Jews spoke Greek. The Dead Sea Scrolls were written in Aramaic, Hebrew, and Greek. .... "The number of different compositions represented is almost one thousand, and they are written in three different languages: Hebrew, Aramaic, and Greek.The number of different compositions represented is almost one thousand, and they are written in three different languages: Hebrew, Aramaic, and Greek"
Thank you for doing this video! That silver scroll was just amazing. I'd like to learn more about it. I'd also be interested in other ancient texts too. If you wanted to look at other cultures earliest texts.
I must say, I really love the videos recently about religious topics. I think it is a very natural evolution of this channel's format, some of the best videos on this channel have been in this series.
I once recommended this channel to people by saying: "He mostly used to just do royal family trees and such, but then he decided, 'Hey, speaking of "begetting", let's look at whether or not the Bible is true!'" Obviously the content is much more nuanced, but I did think it was funny, him going from something so innocuous as royal bloodlines to so provocative as _anything_ to do with the historicity of the Bible.
JESUS B PEACE ON HIM WAS POOPING AND PEE WAS EATING SLEEPING LIKE ANY ONE HE USE TO POOP EVERY TIME WHEN NATURE WORKS HE USED TO PEE AND SLEEP IGNORANT ADRESS PEOPLE'S OF NO REASONS. CHAPTER 18 VERSES 1_5 ٱلْحَمْدُ لِلَّهِ ٱلَّذِىٓ أَنزَلَ عَلَىٰ عَبْدِهِ ٱلْكِتَٰبَ وَلَمْ يَجْعَل لَّهُۥ عِوَجَا ۜ Praise be to Allah, Who hath sent to His Servant the Book, and hath allowed therein no Crookedness: قَيِّمًا لِّيُنذِرَ بَأْسًا شَدِيدًا مِّن لَّدُنْهُ وَيُبَشِّرَ ٱلْمُؤْمِنِينَ ٱلَّذِينَ يَعْمَلُونَ ٱلصَّٰلِحَٰتِ أَنَّ لَهُمْ أَجْرًا حَسَنًا (He hath made it) Straight (and Clear) in order that He may warn (the godless) of a terrible Punishment from Him, and that He may give Glad Tidings to the Believers who work righteous deeds, that they shall have a goodly Reward, مَّٰكِثِينَ فِيهِ أَبَدًا Further, that He may warn those (also) who say, "Allah hath begotten a son": مَّا لَهُم بِهِۦ مِنْ عِلْمٍ وَلَا لِءَابَآئِهِمْ ۚ كَبُرَتْ كَلِمَةً تَخْرُجُ مِنْ أَفْوَٰهِهِمْ ۚ إِن يَقُولُونَ إِلَّا كَذِبًا No knowledge have they of such a thing, nor had their fathers. It is a grievous thing that issues from their mouths as a saying what they say is nothing but falsehood!OK this are verses from your fabricated Bible: Matthew 27:46 New International Version 46 About three in the afternoon Jesus cried out in a loud voice, “Eli, Eli,[a] lema sabachthani?” (which means “My God, my God, why have you forsaken me?”).[b](A) Mark 11:12-25 New International Version Jesus Curses a Fig Tree and Clears the Temple Courts(A)(B)(C) 12 The next day as they were leaving Bethany, Jesus was hungry. 13 Seeing in the distance a fig tree in leaf, he went to find out if it had any fruit. When he reached it, he found nothing but leaves, because it was not the season for figs.(D) 14 Then he said to the tree, “May no one ever eat fruit from you again.” And his disciples heard him say it. A hungry God doesn't know about the Fig when it comes. On reaching Jerusalem, Jesus entered the temple courts and began driving out those who were buying and selling there. He overturned the tables of the money changers and the benches of those selling doves, 16 and would not allow anyone to carry merchandise through the temple courts. 17 And as he taught them, he said, “Is it not written: ‘My house will be called a house of prayer for all nations’[a]?(E) But you have made it ‘a den of robbers.’[b]”(F) 18 The chief priests and the teachers of the law heard this and began looking for a way to kill him, for they feared him,(G) because the whole crowd was amazed at his teaching.(H) 19 When evening came, Jesus and his disciples[c] went out of the city.(I) 20 In the morning, as they went along, they saw the fig tree withered from the roots. 21 Peter remembered and said to Jesus, “Rabbi,(J) look! The fig tree you cursed has withered!” 22 “Have faith in God,” Jesus answered. You doesn't understand you're Bible you're telling jokes. A God crying to a god ? A God Cursed a tree because he didn't know about the Fig a God was walking in streets and buying things and shoping for food then teatch thing they did want to kill God this are you're logic CHAPTER 25 VERSE 20 وَمَآ أَرْسَلْنَا قَبْلَكَ مِنَ ٱلْمُرْسَلِينَ إِلَّآ إِنَّهُمْ لَيَأْكُلُونَ ٱلطَّعَامَ وَيَمْشُونَ فِى ٱلْأَسْوَاقِ ۗ وَجَعَلْنَا بَعْضَكُمْ لِبَعْضٍ فِتْنَةً أَتَصْبِرُونَ ۗ وَكَانَ رَبُّكَ بَصِيرًا And the messengers whom We sent before thee were all (men) who ate food and walked through the streets: We have made some of you as a trial for others: will ye have patience? for Allah is One Who sees (all things). Yep there's no doubt that he's not God CHAPTER 25 VERSE 7 وَقَالُوا۟ مَالِ هَٰذَا ٱلرَّسُولِ يَأْكُلُ ٱلطَّعَامَ وَيَمْشِى فِى ٱلْأَسْوَاقِ ۙ لَوْلَآ أُنزِلَ إِلَيْهِ مَلَكٌ فَيَكُونَ مَعَهُۥ نَذِيرًا And they say: "What sort of a messenger is this, who eats food, and walks through the streets? Why has not an angel been sent down to him to give admonition with him?
Wow, I had never heard that Billy Graham quote before and my first thought was that it was bunk. I’ve been a Christian my whole life and never would have thought such a thing.
I grew up on that quote. I actually paused the video so I could post it on my FB right then and there because it was gospel to my life as a teenager and the source of many of the elitist snobby attitudes we were encouraged to have. I love seeing it debunked so thoroughly. Billy wasn't a bad man, but ugh some of these things make you wonder.
It is not really bunk. If you select a chart and say that is the basis of his statement and the chart is misleading, then that doesn't prove that he used the chart, only used the chart or just said it off the cuff. It might have been a better analogy for Socrates, but it still holds water Having apostolic text claiming 1st witness testimony and epistles of 1st generation churches appearing in found print only 100 years after the ministry and only 180 years post ministry, 150 years post apostles to have a complete manuscript found of all of it and the LXX, along with Jewish-Roman scholars mentioning the ministry with a century of crucifixion is much more compelling... than to have dozens of Julius Caesars own historic literature, "written by him" but earliest dated 850 years after his death....so there is no comparative proof he wrote it or a series of scholars got together at some point before 800AD to craft a tale written by a General and Emperor in 55BC. His argument kind of contradicts itself, working backward from what he chooses to believe. That is a problem with self edited vanity press that You Tube is. He can say anything. However like the author here, both are very well established figures in history. One might expect much more writings of the first modern emperor of Rome and much quicker than one might find of a religious leader considered blasphemous in Judea that was conquered and burned with the population dispersed violently just 47 years after the ministry.
@@STho205 There is zero - Z E R O evidence that Jesus rose from the dead. Because miracles by nature have no proof. So yes, Billy Graham was 100% wrong. And he definitely used that graphic in his teachings. I say this as a former devotee of him.
@@blueashke possibly. However is their any historical evidence that you would accept for ressurection of the dead. Eyewitness accounts, TV or film footage or photographs of say George Washington, Elvis or Madeline Allbright today in front of a dated newspaper...even seeing them from a distance or close up in a town square or stadium?
@@STho205 Resurrection of the dead is a matter of faith. So no, unless it was a person I personally knew had died and I witnessed them alive again, I would not take 'evidence'. The argument here was that there was proof of it. There isn't, never has been, never could be.
Can we have a general religious chart/video as they developed over time? Would be cool to see religions other then the big 3 and have a general timeline
Hi Matt, nice video as always. As Purim approaches could you make a video about the book of Esther, Its origins and the story behind the controversy between the scholars on whether it should be included in the bible. (And is there a chance you would make a video about גניזת קהיר - "Cairo Geniza")?
It is in my Old Testament Bible, the book of Ester (Hadasa) not sure of spelling, but she was used to save her people from slaughter. I saw a movie a few years back that took creative license and produced One Night with the King portrayal of Ester, I enjoyed it, they stayed basically true to the writings, great movie.
@@lorebay2593 It is part of the Biblical cannon in rabbinic judaism, there was a debate recorded in the gemara(oral law) where the legitimacy of the story is debated
@@manetho5134 In judaism, there is a practice in regards to holy books/paper where you place it all in a "Geniza" and the proceed to bury it befitting of its status instead of just throwing it out. Sometime ago, they found one of these collection in the basement of a synagogue in cairo. In it was a lot of historical artifacts that shed some light on jewish practice from hundreds of years ago
@@nachocheese2823 ah so they like don't want to desecrate the holy text so they bury it? In Islam we have kinda of a similar thing, when we want to throw out an old Quran or a paper that has Quran text written on it, we either burn it or shred it into very small pieces
I’d love to get a video on the Shapira Scroll. Originally denounced as a forgery, it seems to be seeing renewed interest among scholars. And if it’s authentic would be the earliest known biblical manuscript by a long shot.
@@wyattsteel411 Liars can claim anything, and fools can believe anything on 'faith', right? *SUCKER* - “a person who believes everything they are told and is therefore easy to deceive” - Cambridge Dictionary
It'd be great to see a similar video about all the non-canonical gospels & apocalypses (etc.) which are extant and were widely read even though they weren't included in the Canon. Works such as the Gospel of Nicodemus, the Acts of Peter, the Infancy narratives.
You missed out the Syriac Sinatica gospels, written in Syriac-Aramaic in the 4th or 5th century. They are known as the Edessan gospels, because the Aramaic is Edessene. You also missed out the Josephus Flavius Old Testament, known as Antiquities. Josephus says he took this information from the Torah scroll in the Temple in AD 70, which dated from some 600 BC. R
Once again you give a very good, succinct and informative video without bias. Well done. One thing I might add is that one reason why we might not have very many early versions of the Bible is because the Romans likely went around destroying texts whenever they discovered them between the time of Nero and Constantine (superstition is such a wonderful thing). That, and the impermanent nature of papyrus and paper go a long way to explaining why many ancient texts were lost (the dry climate of Egypt explains why so many early texts from that region survive).
I've studied the history of that time and have never heard this. All the writings of the time indicate that Christianity was not considered very important - certainly not enough to track down their manuscripts. At Constantine's death about 12% of the empire was Christian. Many texts were denounced and some destroyed in rivalries among the dozens of competing Christianities (or heresies according to Orthodoxy) that continued until only one view was allowed. Marcion used nothing but a version of Luke, some used only Gospel, declaring the others false, etc
@@smb123211 Well, it is only logical. After all, if you are persecuting a people you would also destroy their texts. If you are arresting someone for being a Christian, it is hardly that much of an extra step to arrest their family and relatives to see if they are Christian, and raid their houses for proof. Happens all the time nowadays, so why not back then? People haven't really changed over the centuries, and so will have the same modus operandi when persecuting people. And indeed, we have the whole Donatist controversy that arose in the early 300s because some people handed texts over to the authorities while others did not. One should also remember that Hadrian tried to erase Judaism from the Middle East, going so far as to cut down the olive grove at Gethsemane. Other emperors were just as zealous in their persecutions. Their approach would have been like that of the Nazis, persecute and kill the adherents, then burn their writings.
@@nicholasconder4703 It didn't happen back for two reasons - 1) Christians were a tiny minority and 2) Rome didn't care what god you worshipped - one reason for the longevity of their empire. What changed was the idea of a divine human - emperor, Jewish rabbi - something Jews rejected as blasphemous.
Love it. Excellent work. In defence of Billy Graham, he never specified that 5000 manuscripts were from the time of Jesus Christ. There is also a good chunk of secondary references to the Gospels from The Letter to Diognetus, for example. Don't forget graffiti from Pompeii regarding Christians, which date the presence of Christians in Pompeii before the volcanic eruption! Add to this the intriguing presence of type AB+ blood on the Shroud of Turin, the Suderion of Oviedo and the Holy Tunic of Argenteuil, which also shares identical pollen with the Shroud of Turin. These are all fascinating rabbit holes grad students can lose themselves in and, well, nothing like this exists for any ancient figure, Caesar, author, philosopher or other. There is a signiture of Cleopatra, but she was not on the list.
I spent some time flipping through the dead seas scrolls translation website. And I have to say, this makes me think that scribes took their work incredibly seriously. Errors were not permitted in their manuscripts. One thing I've come to realize while studying history is how little the human experience has changed. And part of that is the rigorous expectations we have for our duties. In any trade, long, grueling apprenticeships were pretty common throughout history. Learning to perform a task to the highest degree being important in many cultures as well. So it would not surprise me in the slightest if the scribe masters reviewed every copy they left their studio(?) against the original for accuracy, making corrections as needed, or even requiring the entire page to be redone. I also wouldn't be surprised if the oral tradition held quite strongly as well. With apprentices being required to recite, verbatim, the stories they were taught, and could not become a "journeyman" storyteller until they could do it X amount of times without mistake. Of course, that's not to say that errors wouldn't enter as people aged. But I think the general public at least thinks that oral tradition would have radically changed a story over just a few short years, as the storytellers took liberties with the details. But, I wouldn't be surprised if that was actually quite rare. And that it was more simple errors. While modern life and ancient life are quite different in terms of our world-views, I think I have a helpful comparison. I do some amateur theater, and part of how I make it interesting for me is to memorize parts *exactly* with no errors or additions from the written script. I do this with quite large roles that have me on stage for nearly the entire play, handling probably close to half the total lines in a show (in fact, the smaller roles are the ones I care less about exactness! ha! doesn't cause as much chaos if the minor role drops a line). Anyways, the point is that the errors I find myself making are not complete fabrications or intentional changes, but little things like using the same word in two spots where it's supposed to be the same, such as "Listen here" and "Look here" or "quite sure" and "yes" or "anyways" versus "anyway" ... and so on. Things that don't change the meaning, but aren't exact either.
Unfortunately, the evidence shows otherwise. Dr. Gerd Ludemann, New Testament scholar at the University of Göttingen: "Demonstrating the degree of authorial invention uncovers the considerable amount of forgery to be found in the texts of the New Testament, and thus undermines the almost unlimited authority that is commonly accorded them. In doing gospel studies we should always be suspicious, remembering that the text in front of us has gone through the hands of 'Christian authors' who, supposedly inspired by the Holy Spirit, edited and falsified large parts of the four gospels." What Jesus Didn’t Say
Dr. David Brakke, Professor in the History of Christianity, Ohio State University, wrote an article in the Journal of Religion entitled, “Early Christian Lies and the Lying Liars Who Wrote Them”, which reflects the consensus view that the anonymous early Christian scribes who wrote all of your references were blatant liars, forgers and frauds: “Of the twenty-seven writings that make up the Christian New Testament, *at least ten are almost certainly forgeries* , that is, writings whose authors falsely claim to be someone else. They are six of the letters that purport to be from Paul…plus the letters attributed to James, Peter (two), and Jude. This number climbs to thirteen if one includes the Acts of the Apostles, whose author falsely presents himself as a companion to Paul on his sea voyage to Rome (27:1, etc.); 1 John, whose author misleadingly claims to have been an eyewitness to the life of Jesus (1:1-3); and Hebrews, which may not bear the name of Paul but whose author drops hints that he is in fact that apostle (13:23-24). These forgeries claim attention in part because they are now sacred scripture to Christians, but they are only the large tip of a vast iceberg of early Christian forgery…Such *literary deceit* was not uncommon in the ancient Mediterranean world, but Christians seem to have embraced the practice with special enthusiasm.” - Early Christian Lies and the Lying Liars Who Wrote Them, The Journal of Religion, Volume 96, Number 3
@@IanZainea1990 It has everything to do with it. You have no evidence that the earliest complete manuscripts of the gospel tales---which date hundreds of years after the supposed events---bear any resemblance to the content in lost originals that we DON'T have. But we DO have lots of evidence that the anonymous, biased scribes who wrote all your references were proven liars, forgers and frauds. For instance, just compare the empty tomb stories in Mark and Matthew. What did the women allegedly see at the tomb in the Gospel of Mark? "They were saying to each other, Who’s going to roll the stone away from the entrance for us? When they looked up, they saw that the STONE HAD BEEN ROLLED AWAY...Going INTO THE TOMB , they saw a YOUNG MAN in a white robe seated on the right side; and they were startled. But he said to them, Don’t be alarmed! You are looking for Jesus of Nazareth, who was crucified. He has been raised. He isn’t here" (Mark 16:3-6). Compare this with the same story in the Gospel of Matthew, when the women arrive at a SEALED TOMB that was GUARDED BY SOLDIERS! "There was a violent earthquake, for AN ANGEL of the Lord CAME DOWN FROM HEAVEN and, going to the tomb, ROLLED BACK THE STONE AND SAT ON IT. His appearance was like lightning, and his clothes were white as snow. The guards were so afraid of him that they shook and became like dead men. The angel said to the women, Do not be afraid, for I know that you are looking for Jesus, who was crucified. He is not here; he has risen" (Matt. 28:2-6). LOL! Wow---how did Mark get his story so wrong? Now we have an earthquake, Roman guards and instead of the women finding an OPEN TOMB and speaking with a YOUNG MAN INSIDE it, the tomb is SEALED when they arrive and they watch an ANGEL COME DOWN FROM HEAVEN WITH LIGHTING as he pops the freshness seal on the tomb (proving that no one could’ve stolen the body!) and sits on top of the massive stone and talks to the women OUTSIDE THE TOMB!!! LOL! That's a completely different story! If the story in Matthew is true, the story told by Mark is false, and vice versa. The bible disproves itself. And if the author of Matthew was so willing to lie and twist a story he plagiarized, why should I trust anything in his book? The author of Matthew must’ve thought Christians were complete morons. Oh…right.
@@IanZainea1990 Dr. Bart Ehrman, Distinguished Professor of Religious Studies at the University of North Carolina: "At least 11 of the 27 New Testament books are forgeries...Many of the New Testament’s forgeries were manufactured by early Christian leaders trying to settle theological feuds...only about half of the New Testament letters attributed to Paul - 7 of 13 - were actually written by him. Paul's remaining books are forgeries...there were about 100 forgeries created in the name of Jesus’ inner-circle during the first four centuries of the church." - Half of New Testament forged, Bible scholar says, CNN
Most were burnt, and what we have now, was disputed at the time of burning the different books. It’s just a mess.. Apparently there are many holes in the standard narrative (according to Islamic Scholars)..
@@googleuser3620 lol, thats not what happened. The fragments and copies which were burned were burned to protect the authenticity of the original copy from Abu Bakr Ra. up to Uthman's Ra. copy. And the Quraishi dialect was produced at the same time (from the original mushaf kept with Hafsa Ra)
I am teaching History and Epistemology of Chemistry, at UNILA. I'm gonna use some of your videos to analise how the past events are described, well my students will do it. In fact, some you work are related to alchemy, 'cause ancient Egipt, Greek, Islam and Christianism are involved in the development of chemistry. Great work. Parabéns!
A marvelous video! Your thorough, steady approach to research and evidence always remind me why I love this channel so much. I really enjoyed your breakdown of manuscripts at the end of the video. It was a step above what I expected when I clicked the video, and I think it's a very useful analysis of how historians actually approach the written word.
You know, I'm Lutheran and I still hear the Priestly Blessing whenever a sermon is about to end. So knowing that it dates so far back (it's closer to the building of the Great Pyramids, than Cleopatra VII is to the modern day!) is pretty cool.
@@yakov95000 The entirety of the Jewish Bible is also part of the Catholic and Protestant Bibles. 'Priest' is a term in many faith practices. Honestly, it was sung as a blessing by my entire school in chapel as well.
@@blueashke Yea you right it was my bad I just realized you call your people priests and it has totally different meaning then what I had in my head,in Jewish understanding it is called Birkaat HaCohanim(The greeting/Blessing of Cohanim/Priests),Cohen is a family lineage and status that only people who are sons of those Cohenim could say this(Cohanim come from Aaron,Moses brother),still it's pretty cool things I connect so so much with Judaism and Israeliness is also part other people tradition.
This video did a great job explaining why the Dead Sea Scrolls are so important. I got to see them in an exhibit once but didn’t appreciate it at the time. I wonder if there are still any undiscovered scrolls or manuscripts out there of the Old or New Testament 🤔
Matt Baker ... another excellent job (along with the early images of Jesus video) of keeping straight a myriad of facts with details and then weaving it all together to clearly convey the material to others. Despite how clear you do it, I have stop and repeat parts of these videos to take it all in. I can only imagine what a task you have in deciding what to leave in and what to leave out to stay focused and relevant to the story you're telling.
Abrahamic religions have such interesting history, I love learning about the more occult-ish/spiritual practices that came from the same places the "big three" did
FANTASIC! I always had difficulty pointing out when different manuscripts were written. Thanks for clearing up the Time line. Will you do a Family Tree for where the King James Translation Comes from? Or even a Christian Denomination Family tree? Perhaps starting with Canaanite Religions, going into the cult of YHW and early Judaism till you get to our modern Great awakenings and such......but let me not tell you how to do your job. Great stuff!
You just need to know simple math, here is couple examples : How long did he rule over Jerusalem? (a) Three months (2 Kings 24:8). (b) Three months and ten days (2 Chronicles 36:9). How old was Jehoiachin when he became king of Jerusalem? (a) Eighteen (2 Kings 24:8). (b) Eight (2 Chronicles 36:9). The chief of the mighty men of David lifted up his spear and killed how many men at one time? (a) Eight hundred (2 Samuel 23:8). (b) Three hundred (1 Chronicles 11:11).
I went to a private Christian highschool and was taught that the dead sea scrolls had complete copies of the gospels lol. It wasn't until I took biblical Greek in college that I learned that the oldest fragments of the gospels are incomplete. Also some parts were almost certainly added later like Mark chapter 16 is not in Codex Vaticanus or any older fragments of Mark.
From an agnostic: Thank you for your post. I learned something new. But a quick and shallow dive suggests that it is a bit more complex. Here is a view copied from a web site: “Mark 16:9-20 has been called a later addition to the Gospel of Mark by most New Testament scholars in the past century. The main reason for doubting the authenticity of the ending is that it does not appear in some of the oldest existing witnesses, and it is reported to be absent from many others in ancient times by early writers of the Church. Moreover, the ending has some stylistic features which also suggest that it came from another hand. The Gospel is obviously incomplete without these verses, and so most scholars believe that the final leaf of the original manuscript was lost, and that the ending which appears in English versions today (verses 9-20) was supplied during the second century. Below are some excerpts from various scholarly sources that conclude that the verses are a later addition. Nevertheless, some scholars have not been impressed with the evidence against these verses, and have maintained that they are original. These scholars have pointed out that the witnesses which bring the verses into question are few, and that the verses are quoted by church Fathers very early, even in the second century. To represent this point of view we give below a long excerpt from F.H.A. Scrivener, together with its footnotes.” But, that being said, Thanks for adding to my journey.
Origen wrote his 'hexapla', collecting the various translations of the old testament in his time (sometime before the 240's). He did a detailed comparison of various Greek translations to the Hebrew texts he had avaiable, sadly it was lost (like much of Origens work)
Origen (185 - 254 CE), Title of Chapter 4: "Scripture Contains Many Contradictions, and Many Statements Which are Not Literally True, But Must Be Read Spiritually and Mystically." (Origen, Commentary on the Gospel of John, Book 10, Chapter 4)
Thank you so much! Walter veith has a Bible chronos too. Yours was awesome. consider like Paul splintered religions/sects of denominations of churches, how many versions are available today niv, standard, catholic, etc, pretty much write whatever nowadays. How about chart of pictographs in caves all over realm, in chronos, there’s a chart! starting at the Picts, I would imagine... maybe gobekli tepe? thank you for your consideration if only I found you before I covered my wall in charts already, ohh! The elements chart goes to 160, only elements 120 printed and placed out of order! Why? Good question. That’s the histery of chronos. Thank you
Thanks for another great video! Your take on religion is much needed, I've learnt so much! Just noticed a small error today. In the subtitles at 9:43 it says BCE instead of CE. I always watch with subtitles so i don't miss anything you say, thanks for including them!
Good catch. I was about to comment with the same correction but thought to check prior comments, as I'm confident I wasn't the only one that saw the mistake. Love these videos.
You’ve actually missed the point in your discussion of the timeframe between documents and have overlooked the nature of critical and textual scholarship going back to the enlightenment when scholars began to say that there was no historicity to the Bible, that Jesus didn’t exist, and there was little accuracy in the words of the Bible. The point is that sooner than any other text or sources we have from the ancient world, the books of the NT WERE NOT FAR REMOVED FROM THE ACTUAL EVENTS THAT TOOK PLACE. the point is that we consider Suetonius and other writers to be historically reliable for works that were written hundreds of years after their death, but the NT had been unduly marginalized and held to a different standard for many years. Moreover, there are creeds within the Bible (1Corinthians 15) that scholars agree was early christology and often date it to as early as a few years after Jesus’ death. The point here is that the books of the Bible in general and NT in particular are dated within years of the events. Otherwise, great video
JESUS B PEACE ON HIM WAS POOPING AND PEE WAS EATING SLEEPING LIKE ANY ONE HE USE TO POOP EVERY TIME WHEN NATURE WORKS HE USED TO PEE AND SLEEP IGNORANT ADRESS PEOPLE'S OF NO REASONS. CHAPTER 18 VERSES 1_5 ٱلْحَمْدُ لِلَّهِ ٱلَّذِىٓ أَنزَلَ عَلَىٰ عَبْدِهِ ٱلْكِتَٰبَ وَلَمْ يَجْعَل لَّهُۥ عِوَجَا ۜ Praise be to Allah, Who hath sent to His Servant the Book, and hath allowed therein no Crookedness: قَيِّمًا لِّيُنذِرَ بَأْسًا شَدِيدًا مِّن لَّدُنْهُ وَيُبَشِّرَ ٱلْمُؤْمِنِينَ ٱلَّذِينَ يَعْمَلُونَ ٱلصَّٰلِحَٰتِ أَنَّ لَهُمْ أَجْرًا حَسَنًا (He hath made it) Straight (and Clear) in order that He may warn (the godless) of a terrible Punishment from Him, and that He may give Glad Tidings to the Believers who work righteous deeds, that they shall have a goodly Reward, مَّٰكِثِينَ فِيهِ أَبَدًا Further, that He may warn those (also) who say, "Allah hath begotten a son": مَّا لَهُم بِهِۦ مِنْ عِلْمٍ وَلَا لِءَابَآئِهِمْ ۚ كَبُرَتْ كَلِمَةً تَخْرُجُ مِنْ أَفْوَٰهِهِمْ ۚ إِن يَقُولُونَ إِلَّا كَذِبًا No knowledge have they of such a thing, nor had their fathers. It is a grievous thing that issues from their mouths as a saying what they say is nothing but falsehood!OK this are verses from your fabricated Bible: Matthew 27:46 New International Version 46 About three in the afternoon Jesus cried out in a loud voice, “Eli, Eli,[a] lema sabachthani?” (which means “My God, my God, why have you forsaken me?”).[b](A) Mark 11:12-25 New International Version Jesus Curses a Fig Tree and Clears the Temple Courts(A)(B)(C) 12 The next day as they were leaving Bethany, Jesus was hungry. 13 Seeing in the distance a fig tree in leaf, he went to find out if it had any fruit. When he reached it, he found nothing but leaves, because it was not the season for figs.(D) 14 Then he said to the tree, “May no one ever eat fruit from you again.” And his disciples heard him say it. A hungry God doesn't know about the Fig when it comes. On reaching Jerusalem, Jesus entered the temple courts and began driving out those who were buying and selling there. He overturned the tables of the money changers and the benches of those selling doves, 16 and would not allow anyone to carry merchandise through the temple courts. 17 And as he taught them, he said, “Is it not written: ‘My house will be called a house of prayer for all nations’[a]?(E) But you have made it ‘a den of robbers.’[b]”(F) 18 The chief priests and the teachers of the law heard this and began looking for a way to kill him, for they feared him,(G) because the whole crowd was amazed at his teaching.(H) 19 When evening came, Jesus and his disciples[c] went out of the city.(I) 20 In the morning, as they went along, they saw the fig tree withered from the roots. 21 Peter remembered and said to Jesus, “Rabbi,(J) look! The fig tree you cursed has withered!” 22 “Have faith in God,” Jesus answered. You doesn't understand you're Bible you're telling jokes. A God crying to a god ? A God Cursed a tree because he didn't know about the Fig a God was walking in streets and buying things and shoping for food then teatch thing they did want to kill God this are you're logic CHAPTER 25 VERSE 20 وَمَآ أَرْسَلْنَا قَبْلَكَ مِنَ ٱلْمُرْسَلِينَ إِلَّآ إِنَّهُمْ لَيَأْكُلُونَ ٱلطَّعَامَ وَيَمْشُونَ فِى ٱلْأَسْوَاقِ ۗ وَجَعَلْنَا بَعْضَكُمْ لِبَعْضٍ فِتْنَةً أَتَصْبِرُونَ ۗ وَكَانَ رَبُّكَ بَصِيرًا And the messengers whom We sent before thee were all (men) who ate food and walked through the streets: We have made some of you as a trial for others: will ye have patience? for Allah is One Who sees (all things). Yep there's no doubt that he's not God CHAPTER 25 VERSE 7 وَقَالُوا۟ مَالِ هَٰذَا ٱلرَّسُولِ يَأْكُلُ ٱلطَّعَامَ وَيَمْشِى فِى ٱلْأَسْوَاقِ ۙ لَوْلَآ أُنزِلَ إِلَيْهِ مَلَكٌ فَيَكُونَ مَعَهُۥ نَذِيرًا And they say: "What sort of a messenger is this, who eats food, and walks through the streets? Why has not an angel been sent down to him to give admonition with him?
I would hesitate to call fragments a manuscript, they are merely pieces of one. I got a chance to see part of the Dead Sea Scrolls when they were on exhibit in Denver several years ago. If you get a chance to see them, I recommend it, we had to wait in line, but it was well worth it.
AFAIK _some_ of them are, it just doesn't happen to include any of the specific examples in the video. Wikipedia says that Oxyrhynchus p15, a 3rd century fragment of Corinthians 1, is in fact displayed in Cairo, Egypt. Overall I suspect that there's not been much interest in returning those manuscripts to Egypt because Egypt is (currently) not a Christian country. I'm not confident that this is the _main_ reason, though.
Notice how he only says that the new testament portrayal of Jesus isn't necessarily well preserved but doesn't say anything the old testament accuracy or portrayal of Isiah per example. Non-Christians are mostly hostile to Christianity than any other religion bizarrely even tho it's it's morals are better than any other religion. These people don't car about what's good or bad as long as they attack Christ.
Dr. Gerd Ludemann, Chair of History and Literature of Early Christianity at the University of Göttingen: "the results of historical scholarship can be made known to the public - especially to believers - only with difficulty. Many Christians feel threatened if they hear that MOST of what was written in the Bible is (in historical terms) UNTRUE and that none of the four New Testament Gospels was written by the author listed at the top of the text." - Kêrygma and History in the Thought of Rudolf Bultmann
As a Christian, I agree with your opinions on the Billy Graham quote and the chart. Idk why people think that the 5856 number is so impressive considering, like you said, the number of those written after 500 years past Jesus' death Edit: Caesar 100% existed
It is impressive compared to other classical manuscripts believed to contain authentic information yet were written much later compared to the books of the Bible and they have much less manuscripts.
@@jiddec It's impressive, but it has nothing at all to do with the veracity of the contents. You also have to take into account that various Christian regimes from the reign of Constantine onward ordered the destruction of "pagan" texts, so Christianity may in fact be the *reason* why we don't have as many manuscripts of other texts. The final destruction of the Library of Alexandria was *by* Christians.
@@jiddec Quite the contrary. I mean that I'm aware that it's possible for there to be only one record of the actual truth and thousands of records of a lie. And that one should be cautious about any organization that injects ideology into the recording and preservation of truth. Christians killed Hypatia, a neoplatonist mathematician at the Library of Alexandria. It wasn't about whether or not her mathematics were correct, it was simply because they associated her with beliefs that they didn't agree with. She was a *math* professor; nothing she taught should have been considered a threat by Christians, but they did. Therefore I will not discount the possibility of something being true simply because there is only there are only a few copies left of it. The Elements of Euclid, a foundational work specifically of geometry but really of all mathematics in general. It was considered lost to Europe for a thousand years. Fortunately, the Crusades brought it back into Europe from the East where it had been preserved. But then when Napoleon invaded the Vatican, he found an ancient manuscript in their library! They had a copy the whole time! This is geometry, a matter of "parallel lines do not intersect", this is a matter of "the shortest distance between two points is a straight line". The Vatican *hid* this information for a thousand years and WHY? Because it was truth that came from non-Christians.
@@erraticonteuse It is also possible that those thousands of records are actually true contextually that's why historians could use the Bible to establish historical facts. You probably read the story you shared from copy of copy of copy of copy because you weren't born when it happened yet you believe it to be true why do you people change the rules and introduce exception to the Bible just because you're not Christians? Also, the fact that that someone claims to be a Christian doesn't imply he or she truly is. Killing people has no place in Christianity, Jesus Christ didn't kill anybody those who killed in the name of Christianity either did it out of ignorance or hid behind religion to do it for their own gains. Neither Jesus Christ nor his apostles killed anybody rather they were killed for their faith.
Never thought of tracing the parts of the Bible like this. It's fantastic. It reminded me of how I always wanted to see a timeline of Nordic religion specifically regarding Odin/ Woden. From the little I've gathered the figure is much older than commonly associated "viking" era.
Great video! I would like to clarify that I believe what Dr.Graham was referring too was not necessarily that amount of manuscripts of the New Testament, but rather historical mentions of Jesus compared to Julius C. Is quite staggering. There are more historians from Jesus relative time frame that mention Jesus of Nazareth in one capacity or another. Where as there are less historians from Julius C relative time frame that mention Julius C in one capacity or another; which is a very interesting development seeing that both lived in the same relative time. In fact there are some “non-biblical” books that were shown here that do mention Jesus but, all the same, do not mention Julius C. Not calling you wrong in your mentions of manuscripts; just saying I think that Dr.Graham was referring to different sources rather than any particular group of manuscripts.
Cesear though had a number of citiations carved in stone - or mentioned in smaller texts such as those found in London / Hadrians Wall, and fitted into a continum of Roman Emperors. What it shows overall that the number of writers that actually would go out of their way to document any figure from History was fairly small, and even less of their work survives. If we mean that the 4 gospel writers, Paul , Peter , James and other NT writers make reference to Jesus to a greater extent than other writers might reference Ceaser. Additionally though Ceasar on the Coinage would claim the title Son of God (Son of The Gods) ranking equality of him as a man with that of the gods Rome adopted. This is highly contrasts to the NT writers taking Jesus as Son Of God (and also those NT writers that emphases in the writing that Jesus is Son of Man ( riding a donkey, rather than a conqueror on a Horse) Very much placing Jesus outside the contemporary norms of both Rabbinical and Secular Society
You claimed, 'There are more historians from Jesus relative time frame that mention Jesus of Nazareth in one capacity or another." Your cult has lied to you. Prove it. Dr. Bart Ehrman: “To begin with, there is no hard, physical evidence for Jesus (eighteen hundred years before photography was invented), including no archaeological evidence of any kind…We also do not have any writings from Jesus.…no Greek or Roman author from the first century mentions Jesus…we do not have a single reference to Jesus by anyone - pagan, Jew, or Christian - who was a contemporary eyewitness, who recorded things he said and did. But what about the Gospels of the New Testament? Aren’t they eyewitness reports? Even though that was once widely believed about two of our Gospels, Matthew and John, it is not the view of the vast majority of critical historians today, and for good reason…In fact, we do not have any eyewitness report of any kind about Jesus, written in his own day.” - Did Jesus Exist?
@Pierce Knapp Your only reference about the fairy tale Jesus of the gospels that Christians claim is from the 1st century is found in a Christian manuscript of Josephus (who wasn't even born when Jesus was supposedly alive), and it's a proven forgery by the anonymous, biased liars who wrote all of your earliest manuscripts. Dr. Nicholas Peter Legh Allen, professor of theology at North-West University, a world-renowned expert on Josephus, says: “early Christian apologists felt a desperate need to manufacture such fabrications…They were at a loss to find any genuine extra-biblical / scriptural / historical references to convince their religious opponents that their assumed religious founder had even existed” - Christian Forgery in Jewish Antiquities: Josephus Interrupted, 2020.
@@comparedtowhat2719 Voltaire: “It is difficult to free fools from the chains they revere.” “A fool will believe anything” (Prov. 14:15, Good News Translation).
Interesting video, yet I think an important scripture is missing. In 1963 Swiss "Billy" Meier found an important scripture in Israel in the tomb where Jmmanuel (= Jesus) laid for three days. Written by one of his followers Judas Iscarioth who was NOT the betrayer of Jmmanuel. He was betrayed by Juda Ihariot who was a son of a Pharisee, one of Jmmanuels enemy at the time. Key part of the Scripture is that Jmmanuel didn't die on the cross but fell into a coma for three days- which he knew would happen. After that, he went to India to continue his teachings with his mother, wife and Judas Iscarioth (possibly more individuals) who was one of his dedicated followers and friend. He became about a 100 years old and is (possibly) buried in Kashmir- India (although muslims claim it's a tomb of a muslim Saint). After his death, Jmmanuel's son went back to the tomb where J. laid for three days to burry/ hide the Scripture, today known under the publication of: The Talmud of Jmmanuel. Published by Meier through his Figu organisation. Most of the original scripture got destroyed after an attack when it was in possession of Isa Rashid, friend of Meier, who was responsible for the translation of the manuscript from old Aramaic into German. A part of the original still exists and is ,I believe, in the possession of Billy Meier. Dr. James Deardorff- (from Oregon State Unif.) concluded after thorough research it is an authentic manuscript and not a forgery.
@UsefulCharts I'd love to see you dig into the Khaboris Codex. It is an Aramaic manuscript of the new testament that has pages which are very old indeed.
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2nd century: 17 manuscripts
P64, P52, P75, P66, P77, P90, P98, P103, P104, P137, P32, P104, P90, P98, The Papyrus Oxyrhynchus 5101, Papyrus Oxyrhynchus 4443
3rd century: 76 manuscripts
P15, P45, P47, P9, P1, P4, P5, P12, P13, P15, P16, P18, P20, P22, P23, P27, P28, P29, P30, P32, P37, P39, P40, P45, P46, P48, P49, P53, P64, P67, P65, P69, P70, P72, P78, P80, P87, P91, P92, P95, P100, P101, P102, P106, P107, P108, P109, P111, P113, P115, P118, P119, P121, P129, P130, P131, P 132, P133, P134, P138, P141, Oxyrhynchus Gospels, En-Gedi Scroll, P. Lond.Lit.207, Papyrus Berlin 17213, Papyrus Oxyrhynchus 656, Papyrus Oxyrhynchus 1007, Papyrus Oxyrhynchus L 3525, Papyrus Palau-Ribes 163, Papyrus 966, Uncial 0312, Papyrus Vindobonensis Greek 39777, Dura Parchment 24, Uncial 0189, Uncial 0171, Papyrus Palau-Ribes 163
4th century: 67 manuscripts
P6, P7, P62, P8, P6, P10, P17, P19, P21, P24, P25, P38, P50, P57, P62, P71, P81, P82, P85, P86, P88, P89, P110, P117, P120, P122, P123, P125, P126, P135, P139, P18, P17, P10, P63, Papyrus Bodmer III, Papyrus Bodmer XIX, Syriac Sinaiticus, Codex Sinaiticus, Codex Vaticanus, Codex Vercellensis, Curetonian Gospels, Oxyrhynchus Gospels, Uncial 057, Uncial 058, Uncial 059, Uncial 0160, Uncial 0162, Uncial 0169, Uncial 0171, Uncial 0176, Uncial 0185, Uncial 0188, Uncial 0206, Uncial 0207, Uncial 0214, Uncial 0220, Uncial 0221, Uncial 0228, Uncial 0230, Uncial 0231, Uncial 0242, Uncial 0258, Uncial 0270, Uncial 0308, Uncial 0315, Papyrus Vindobonensis Greek 39777
Total: 160 Manuscripts
Ich habe eine Frage: Ich habe den Baum am 18. Januar nach Russland bestellt, aber er ist noch nicht angekommen, wird er kommen, oder ist er wegen des Krieges mit der Ukraine nicht mehr da?
I have a question: I ordered the tree to Russia on January 18, but it has not yet arrived, will it come, or because of the war with Ukraine it is no longer there?
I really hope that it will come
In the video you say that there is "good evidence" for the existence of Jesus, without backing up that claim with any evidence. I would highly suggest that you thoroughly research a topic before making such claims in the future so that you do not mislead your audience. One book that I would highly recommend that you read is On the Historicity of Jesus, by Richard Carrier. When it was published in 2014, it was the first peer reviewed case against the historicity of Jesus in about 100 years. Obviously peer review is critical when tackling topics like this.
I am not at all religious, but I always enjoy these "biblical" videos immensely, simply due to the amount of careful research put into them, and the precise and calm manner it is presented in. Science at its best. Excellent work, Mr Baker, as always!
@@May3yad3 Those would be misinterpretations of mostly secular people. I don't have the answers off the top of my head, but every contradiction listed will have a real argument disproving the contradiction
@@Hybrid50 the same way that every form of attempted proof of some aspect of the christian mythology will have a counterargument based in reality, no?
Absolutely. Makes no difference whether you are practicing any religion. These videos need to be viewed Historically and Scientifically.
I would think the more strict and practicing of any religion, might take away these realizations.
@@migaspt5676 you people get bodied in debates all day.
@@BlackMist123 keep your convictions all you want but there's no sane way a religious argument wins over a logic, agnostic one, any day, all day. That's life.
8:59 Something I'd like to share because I feel like people might be curious.
The process employed by the Nestle-Aland to determine what is most likely to be original is called textual criticism and hinges on the base assumption that text is important.
And because text is important, it has a tendency to grow. It is assumed that ancient scribes would be hesitant to strike words out of what for them would be the holy word of God. Rather their tendency would be towards expanding the text to make something more clear.
So if you have a section of text with multiple versions, the one you would assume to be the original is the one that's shortest and most difficult to understand. Because a scribe coming to that section to copy it would, if anything, add words onto it to clear up a possible misunderstanding, rather than taking a long, easy verse and cutting words out until it's difficult to read.
For example if you have a section where Jesus is quoted as saying "If you can do *this*" but it's not clear if he is referring to something earlier in the text or to the instruction he is just about to give. You might add in the verb you think he meant after "this" to make sure the reader doesn't misunderstand. (This example is a little unwieldy but I promise it makes sense in Greek)
That's the big one. But of course, you also consider which versions have the most textual evidence. So a variant of a verse that you find on a single papyrus and nowhere else, while not guaranteed to be an error, it'd be questionable why this papyrus is the only one with this variant version if it really was the original everybody else copied from.
You also consider textual families, or text-types. As scribes from specific regions keep copying off of the same manuscripts and then later scribes copy their copies, they inherit certain errors or quirks and by tracking these inherited errors across multiple manuscripts, you can begin to understand how two texts might be related.
So for example there's a family of 600+ minuscule manuscripts that Nestle-Aland tends to value fairly low in terms of how original they are. As all these manuscripts are products of organized, institutionalized Byzantine copying schools. So while they represent the dominant text used in the Middle Ages by the Byzantines, they're all dependent on one another, so their sheer number adds little to support their originality.
Codex Sinaiticus and Vaticanus for example are considered to be part of the Alexandrian family of texts. Whereas the Codex Alexandrinus uses the Byzantine text type in its Gospels but the Alexandrian in the rest of the books. Usually something that will be a good indicator of a verse's originality is if multiple text families agree on its wording.
Those are the big ones, I think.
EDIT: Thought of one more thing.
There's certain sources of error that are so commonly seen that if you can make an argument that a textual variation is the result of that type of error, you've pretty much already won the argument.
The big one I remember is if you have a bit of text in a manuscript where on a page two lines end on the same word, there's a fair chance that a scribe might skip the lines between. Because if the scribe just finished a sentence that ended in "called" for example, when he looks back up his eyes will be scanning for "called" starting at the bottom of the page. So if a later line also ends with that word, he might just keep going from there and skip everything inbetween the two instances of that word.
Another one is copying a version from a different gospel. So especially within the Synoptic Gospels Matthew, Mark and Luke, their wordings often differ and sometimes in really benign ways on really benign things. So if the scribe has had a lot of Matthew read to him throughout his life, even when copying Luke he might slip up and go "Okay i Know how this line ends" and end up inserting Matthew's version into Luke.
TL;DR: The most originalest variant of any given verse, according to Nestle-Aland, will be the one that is old and well documented by reliable independent manuscripts and which is shorter and more difficult to fully understand than the other documented variants without being the result of an error.
Fascinating! Thanks.
Yes, thanks for sharing!
It would be better and very important if we could discover manuscripts from the early 2nd century containing the Greek text of Mark, Luke, Acts, and the Epistles.
It may help the textual critics to edit a text that is more close to the original than all the various texts of the famous NT manuscripts.
John 5:4 is part of the Original text of John (Byzantine + Caesarean vs. Alexandrian + Western). But John 6:4 is a late accidental interpolation.
Pericope Adulterae is part of the original text of Luke (After Luke 21:38) instead of John. According to the Caesarean text (Family 13 of minuscules, per example: Minuscule 826), Pericope Adulterae is placed after Luke 21:38.
Oh I love this! Thank you for taking the time. ♥️
Wow this is so interesting to learn! I now very much want to read a ‘behind the scenes’ of The Nestle-Aland text. How did you learn of their methods? Was it included in the foreword/footnotes/appendices, or did you find out elsewhere?
Since the Church Fathers quoted books in the NT, it would be nice to have a chart of their manuscripts.
Ooooh that would really cool
I was about to comment the same thing
Jesus is the only way. We have all sinned and deserve Hell. Sins that may seem small in our eyes are big in God's and are worthy of Hell, such as lying lusting and stealing. But if we repent and trust only in Jesus, he is faithful and will save us from Hell and give us eternal life in Heaven. Trust in Jesus!
John 3:16
Romans 6:23❤😊
@@christianweatherbroadcasting Thats what i think man
I really couldn't ever get bored of those videos about biblical history, hope you'll do many more, like this on biblical and apocrypha scrolls or about a specific book just like a deeper presentation of what you already did with the series who wrote the bible, you're really good at explaining and entertaining
I loved it too. These are stuff I always wished i knew
SAME! 100%!
Check out Bart Ehrman's videos too.
Google 101 Bible contradictions
@@russedav5 hard truth but many won't understand
10. Masoretic Text (Codex Leningradensis)
9. Four Great Uncials (Codex Vaticanus)
8. Bodmer Papyri (p66 &p75 )
7. Chester Beatty Papyri (p46)
6. Magdalen Fragments (p64 & p67)
5. Oxyrhynchus Papyri (p90 & p104)
4. Rylands Papyri (p52)
3. Nash Papyri
2. Dead Sea Scrolls
1. Ketef Hinnom Scrolls
JESUS B PEACE ON HIM WAS POOPING AND PEE WAS EATING SLEEPING LIKE ANY ONE HE USE TO POOP EVERY TIME WHEN NATURE WORKS HE USED TO PEE AND SLEEP IGNORANT ADRESS PEOPLE'S OF NO REASONS.
CHAPTER 18 VERSES 1_5
ٱلْحَمْدُ لِلَّهِ ٱلَّذِىٓ أَنزَلَ عَلَىٰ عَبْدِهِ ٱلْكِتَٰبَ وَلَمْ يَجْعَل لَّهُۥ عِوَجَا ۜ
Praise be to Allah, Who hath sent to His Servant the Book, and hath allowed therein no Crookedness:
قَيِّمًا لِّيُنذِرَ بَأْسًا شَدِيدًا مِّن لَّدُنْهُ وَيُبَشِّرَ ٱلْمُؤْمِنِينَ ٱلَّذِينَ يَعْمَلُونَ ٱلصَّٰلِحَٰتِ أَنَّ لَهُمْ أَجْرًا حَسَنًا
(He hath made it) Straight (and Clear) in order that He may warn (the godless) of a terrible Punishment from Him, and that He may give Glad Tidings to the Believers who work righteous deeds, that they shall have a goodly Reward,
مَّٰكِثِينَ فِيهِ أَبَدًا
Further, that He may warn those (also) who say, "Allah hath begotten a son":
مَّا لَهُم بِهِۦ مِنْ عِلْمٍ وَلَا لِءَابَآئِهِمْ ۚ كَبُرَتْ كَلِمَةً تَخْرُجُ مِنْ أَفْوَٰهِهِمْ ۚ إِن يَقُولُونَ إِلَّا كَذِبًا
No knowledge have they of such a thing, nor had their fathers. It is a grievous thing that issues from their mouths as a saying what they say is nothing but falsehood!
OK this are verses from your fabricated Bible:
Matthew 27:46
New International Version
46 About three in the afternoon Jesus cried out in a loud voice, “Eli, Eli,[a] lema sabachthani?” (which means “My God, my God, why have you forsaken me?”).[b](A)
Mark 11:12-25
New International Version
Jesus Curses a Fig Tree and Clears the Temple Courts(A)(B)(C)
12 The next day as they were leaving Bethany, Jesus was hungry. 13 Seeing in the distance a fig tree in leaf, he went to find out if it had any fruit. When he reached it, he found nothing but leaves, because it was not the season for figs.(D) 14 Then he said to the tree, “May no one ever eat fruit from you again.” And his disciples heard him say it.
A hungry God doesn't know about the Fig when it comes.
On reaching Jerusalem, Jesus entered the temple courts and began driving out those who were buying and selling there. He overturned the tables of the money changers and the benches of those selling doves, 16 and would not allow anyone to carry merchandise through the temple courts. 17 And as he taught them, he said, “Is it not written: ‘My house will be called a house of prayer for all nations’[a]?(E) But you have made it ‘a den of robbers.’[b]”(F)
18 The chief priests and the teachers of the law heard this and began looking for a way to kill him, for they feared him,(G) because the whole crowd was amazed at his teaching.(H)
19 When evening came, Jesus and his disciples[c] went out of the city.(I)
20 In the morning, as they went along, they saw the fig tree withered from the roots. 21 Peter remembered and said to Jesus, “Rabbi,(J) look! The fig tree you cursed has withered!”
22 “Have faith in God,” Jesus answered.
You doesn't understand you're Bible you're telling jokes.
A God crying to a god ? A God Cursed a tree because he didn't know about the Fig a God was walking in streets and buying things and shoping for food then teatch thing they did want to kill God this are you're logic
CHAPTER 25 VERSE 20
وَمَآ أَرْسَلْنَا قَبْلَكَ مِنَ ٱلْمُرْسَلِينَ إِلَّآ إِنَّهُمْ لَيَأْكُلُونَ ٱلطَّعَامَ وَيَمْشُونَ فِى ٱلْأَسْوَاقِ ۗ وَجَعَلْنَا بَعْضَكُمْ لِبَعْضٍ فِتْنَةً أَتَصْبِرُونَ ۗ وَكَانَ رَبُّكَ بَصِيرًا
And the messengers whom We sent before thee were all (men) who ate food and walked through the streets: We have made some of you as a trial for others: will ye have patience? for Allah is One Who sees (all things).
Yep there's no doubt that he's not God
CHAPTER 25 VERSE 7
وَقَالُوا۟ مَالِ هَٰذَا ٱلرَّسُولِ يَأْكُلُ ٱلطَّعَامَ وَيَمْشِى فِى ٱلْأَسْوَاقِ ۙ لَوْلَآ أُنزِلَ إِلَيْهِ مَلَكٌ فَيَكُونَ مَعَهُۥ نَذِيرًا
And they say: "What sort of a messenger is this, who eats food, and walks through the streets? Why has not an angel been sent down to him to give admonition with him?
JESUS B PEACE ON HIM WAS POOPING AND PEE WAS EATING SLEEPING LIKE ANY ONE HE USE TO POOP EVERY TIME WHEN NATURE WORKS HE USED TO PEE AND SLEEP IGNORANT ADRESS PEOPLE'S OF NO REASONS.
CHAPTER 18 VERSES 1_5
ٱلْحَمْدُ لِلَّهِ ٱلَّذِىٓ أَنزَلَ عَلَىٰ عَبْدِهِ ٱلْكِتَٰبَ وَلَمْ يَجْعَل لَّهُۥ عِوَجَا ۜ
Praise be to Allah, Who hath sent to His Servant the Book, and hath allowed therein no Crookedness:
قَيِّمًا لِّيُنذِرَ بَأْسًا شَدِيدًا مِّن لَّدُنْهُ وَيُبَشِّرَ ٱلْمُؤْمِنِينَ ٱلَّذِينَ يَعْمَلُونَ ٱلصَّٰلِحَٰتِ أَنَّ لَهُمْ أَجْرًا حَسَنًا
(He hath made it) Straight (and Clear) in order that He may warn (the godless) of a terrible Punishment from Him, and that He may give Glad Tidings to the Believers who work righteous deeds, that they shall have a goodly Reward,
مَّٰكِثِينَ فِيهِ أَبَدًا
Further, that He may warn those (also) who say, "Allah hath begotten a son":
مَّا لَهُم بِهِۦ مِنْ عِلْمٍ وَلَا لِءَابَآئِهِمْ ۚ كَبُرَتْ كَلِمَةً تَخْرُجُ مِنْ أَفْوَٰهِهِمْ ۚ إِن يَقُولُونَ إِلَّا كَذِبًا
No knowledge have they of such a thing, nor had their fathers. It is a grievous thing that issues from their mouths as a saying what they say is nothing but falsehood!OK this are verses from your fabricated Bible:
Matthew 27:46
New International Version
46 About three in the afternoon Jesus cried out in a loud voice, “Eli, Eli,[a] lema sabachthani?” (which means “My God, my God, why have you forsaken me?”).[b](A)
Mark 11:12-25
New International Version
Jesus Curses a Fig Tree and Clears the Temple Courts(A)(B)(C)
12 The next day as they were leaving Bethany, Jesus was hungry. 13 Seeing in the distance a fig tree in leaf, he went to find out if it had any fruit. When he reached it, he found nothing but leaves, because it was not the season for figs.(D) 14 Then he said to the tree, “May no one ever eat fruit from you again.” And his disciples heard him say it.
A hungry God doesn't know about the Fig when it comes.
On reaching Jerusalem, Jesus entered the temple courts and began driving out those who were buying and selling there. He overturned the tables of the money changers and the benches of those selling doves, 16 and would not allow anyone to carry merchandise through the temple courts. 17 And as he taught them, he said, “Is it not written: ‘My house will be called a house of prayer for all nations’[a]?(E) But you have made it ‘a den of robbers.’[b]”(F)
18 The chief priests and the teachers of the law heard this and began looking for a way to kill him, for they feared him,(G) because the whole crowd was amazed at his teaching.(H)
19 When evening came, Jesus and his disciples[c] went out of the city.(I)
20 In the morning, as they went along, they saw the fig tree withered from the roots. 21 Peter remembered and said to Jesus, “Rabbi,(J) look! The fig tree you cursed has withered!”
22 “Have faith in God,” Jesus answered.
You doesn't understand you're Bible you're telling jokes.
A God crying to a god ? A God Cursed a tree because he didn't know about the Fig a God was walking in streets and buying things and shoping for food then teatch thing they did want to kill God this are you're logic
CHAPTER 25 VERSE 20
وَمَآ أَرْسَلْنَا قَبْلَكَ مِنَ ٱلْمُرْسَلِينَ إِلَّآ إِنَّهُمْ لَيَأْكُلُونَ ٱلطَّعَامَ وَيَمْشُونَ فِى ٱلْأَسْوَاقِ ۗ وَجَعَلْنَا بَعْضَكُمْ لِبَعْضٍ فِتْنَةً أَتَصْبِرُونَ ۗ وَكَانَ رَبُّكَ بَصِيرًا
And the messengers whom We sent before thee were all (men) who ate food and walked through the streets: We have made some of you as a trial for others: will ye have patience? for Allah is One Who sees (all things).
Yep there's no doubt that he's not God
CHAPTER 25 VERSE 7
وَقَالُوا۟ مَالِ هَٰذَا ٱلرَّسُولِ يَأْكُلُ ٱلطَّعَامَ وَيَمْشِى فِى ٱلْأَسْوَاقِ ۙ لَوْلَآ أُنزِلَ إِلَيْهِ مَلَكٌ فَيَكُونَ مَعَهُۥ نَذِيرًا
And they say: "What sort of a messenger is this, who eats food, and walks through the streets? Why has not an angel been sent down to him to give admonition with him?
@@mohammadfatimazahra3006 cool story bro!
@@spellman007 it's the truth,
بسم الله الرحمن الرحيم
JESUS B PEACE ON HIM WAS POOPING AND PEE WAS EATING SLEEPING LIKE ANY ONE HE USE TO POOP EVERY TIME WHEN NATURE WORKS HE USED TO PEE AND SLEEP IGNORANT ADRESS PEOPLE'S OF NO REASONS.
CHAPTER 18 VERSES 1_5
ٱلْحَمْدُ لِلَّهِ ٱلَّذِىٓ أَنزَلَ عَلَىٰ عَبْدِهِ ٱلْكِتَٰبَ وَلَمْ يَجْعَل لَّهُۥ عِوَجَا ۜ
Praise be to Allah, Who hath sent to His Servant the Book, and hath allowed therein no Crookedness:
قَيِّمًا لِّيُنذِرَ بَأْسًا شَدِيدًا مِّن لَّدُنْهُ وَيُبَشِّرَ ٱلْمُؤْمِنِينَ ٱلَّذِينَ يَعْمَلُونَ ٱلصَّٰلِحَٰتِ أَنَّ لَهُمْ أَجْرًا حَسَنًا
(He hath made it) Straight (and Clear) in order that He may warn (the godless) of a terrible Punishment from Him, and that He may give Glad Tidings to the Believers who work righteous deeds, that they shall have a goodly Reward,
مَّٰكِثِينَ فِيهِ أَبَدًا
Further, that He may warn those (also) who say, "Allah hath begotten a son":
مَّا لَهُم بِهِۦ مِنْ عِلْمٍ وَلَا لِءَابَآئِهِمْ ۚ كَبُرَتْ كَلِمَةً تَخْرُجُ مِنْ أَفْوَٰهِهِمْ ۚ إِن يَقُولُونَ إِلَّا كَذِبًا
No knowledge have they of such a thing, nor had their fathers. It is a grievous thing that issues from their mouths as a saying what they say is nothing but falsehood!OK this are verses from your fabricated Bible:
Matthew 27:46
New International Version
46 About three in the afternoon Jesus cried out in a loud voice, “Eli, Eli,[a] lema sabachthani?” (which means “My God, my God, why have you forsaken me?”).[b](A)
Mark 11:12-25
New International Version
Jesus Curses a Fig Tree and Clears the Temple Courts(A)(B)(C)
12 The next day as they were leaving Bethany, Jesus was hungry. 13 Seeing in the distance a fig tree in leaf, he went to find out if it had any fruit. When he reached it, he found nothing but leaves, because it was not the season for figs.(D) 14 Then he said to the tree, “May no one ever eat fruit from you again.” And his disciples heard him say it.
A hungry God doesn't know about the Fig when it comes.
On reaching Jerusalem, Jesus entered the temple courts and began driving out those who were buying and selling there. He overturned the tables of the money changers and the benches of those selling doves, 16 and would not allow anyone to carry merchandise through the temple courts. 17 And as he taught them, he said, “Is it not written: ‘My house will be called a house of prayer for all nations’[a]?(E) But you have made it ‘a den of robbers.’[b]”(F)
18 The chief priests and the teachers of the law heard this and began looking for a way to kill him, for they feared him,(G) because the whole crowd was amazed at his teaching.(H)
19 When evening came, Jesus and his disciples[c] went out of the city.(I)
20 In the morning, as they went along, they saw the fig tree withered from the roots. 21 Peter remembered and said to Jesus, “Rabbi,(J) look! The fig tree you cursed has withered!”
22 “Have faith in God,” Jesus answered.
You doesn't understand you're Bible you're telling jokes.
A God crying to a god ? A God Cursed a tree because he didn't know about the Fig a God was walking in streets and buying things and shoping for food then teatch thing they did want to kill God this are you're logic
CHAPTER 25 VERSE 20
وَمَآ أَرْسَلْنَا قَبْلَكَ مِنَ ٱلْمُرْسَلِينَ إِلَّآ إِنَّهُمْ لَيَأْكُلُونَ ٱلطَّعَامَ وَيَمْشُونَ فِى ٱلْأَسْوَاقِ ۗ وَجَعَلْنَا بَعْضَكُمْ لِبَعْضٍ فِتْنَةً أَتَصْبِرُونَ ۗ وَكَانَ رَبُّكَ بَصِيرًا
And the messengers whom We sent before thee were all (men) who ate food and walked through the streets: We have made some of you as a trial for others: will ye have patience? for Allah is One Who sees (all things).
Yep there's no doubt that he's not God
CHAPTER 25 VERSE 7
وَقَالُوا۟ مَالِ هَٰذَا ٱلرَّسُولِ يَأْكُلُ ٱلطَّعَامَ وَيَمْشِى فِى ٱلْأَسْوَاقِ ۙ لَوْلَآ أُنزِلَ إِلَيْهِ مَلَكٌ فَيَكُونَ مَعَهُۥ نَذِيرًا
And they say: "What sort of a messenger is this, who eats food, and walks through the streets? Why has not an angel been sent down to him to give admonition with him?
CHAPTER 2 VERSES 257_258
ٱللَّهُ وَلِىُّ ٱلَّذِينَ ءَامَنُوا۟ يُخْرِجُهُم مِّنَ ٱلظُّلُمَٰتِ إِلَى ٱلنُّورِ ۖ وَٱلَّذِينَ كَفَرُوٓا۟ أَوْلِيَآؤُهُمُ ٱلطَّٰغُوتُ يُخْرِجُونَهُم مِّنَ ٱلنُّورِ إِلَى ٱلظُّلُمَٰتِ ۗ أُو۟لَٰٓئِكَ أَصْحَٰبُ ٱلنَّارِ ۖ هُمْ فِيهَا خَٰلِدُونَ
Allah is the Protector of those who have faith: from the depths of darkness He will lead them forth into light. Of those who reject faith the patrons are the evil ones: from light they will lead them forth into the depths of darkness. They will be companions of the fire, to dwell therein (For ever).
أَلَمْ تَرَ إِلَى ٱلَّذِى حَآجَّ إِبْرَٰهِۦمَ فِى رَبِّهِۦٓ أَنْ ءَاتَىٰهُ ٱللَّهُ ٱلْمُلْكَ إِذْ قَالَ إِبْرَٰهِۦمُ رَبِّىَ ٱلَّذِى يُحْىِۦ وَيُمِيتُ قَالَ أَنَا۠ أُحْىِۦ وَأُمِيتُ ۖ قَالَ إِبْرَٰهِۦمُ فَإِنَّ ٱللَّهَ يَأْتِى بِٱلشَّمْسِ مِنَ ٱلْمَشْرِقِ فَأْتِ بِهَا مِنَ ٱلْمَغْرِبِ فَبُهِتَ ٱلَّذِى كَفَرَ ۗ وَٱللَّهُ لَا يَهْدِى ٱلْقَوْمَ ٱلظَّٰلِمِينَ
Hast thou not Turned thy vision to one who disputed with Abraham About his Lord, because Allah had granted him power? Abraham said: "My Lord is He Who Giveth life and death." He said: "I give life and death". Said Abraham: "But it is Allah that causeth the sun to rise from the east: Do thou then cause him to rise from the West." Thus was he confounded who (in arrogance) rejected faith. Nor doth Allah Give guidance to a people unjust
Update on the Dead Sea Scrolls and the Book of Esther. The Book of Esther is indeed included in the Dead Sea Scrolls but it wasn't until they could read it with enhanced photographic equipment that they discovered what it was. Someone in antiquity had spilled wine on it and so the text was obscured. The modern equipment they used was able to read through the staining and it revealed the Book of Esther.
Edit: Correction. This claim has been debunked. Esther has not been found in the Dead Sea scrolls.
They used psychedelics to "see more clearly". Yeah, and I bet being stoned on something even like LSD can really Really REALLY help you see things you want to see.
Esther is a book that should be suspect as to whether it belongs in the Bible. It reads more like an allegory rather than actual history with Mordecai being some sort of Savior figure. Esther had sex with a pagan king! How is that honorable?
Where did you find this info!! I’m doing a little history report and need to cite a source
Unfortunately the book of Esther is refuted by the historical king Xerxes. The king that the Jews claimed was Esther's husband.
King Xerxes of Persia wrote his own biographical history on his cylinder seal and Herodetus also verifies the king and queens existence, queen Vashti. Neither Xerxes or his sons nor external authors like Herodetus mention Esther. In fact, no historical author from Persia or Greece mentioned Esther but many local sources mention both king Xerxes and his actual historical queen Vashti.
@@oceanetcetera8328 Both the book of Esther and Daniel have been refuted by actual historical evidence. You can read my other comment on Esther but if you study Persian history from 550 - 330 bce you can see how badly the author of Daniel gets his history of Persia completely mixed up. This is a clear indication that the author of Daniel was not living during the time period in which the author portraits and also clearly shows how ignorant the author was regarding actual history.
@@ObjectiveEthics "refuted" is a very strong term to use and one that demands solid irrefutable evidence.
While I doubt that Esther should be regarded as authentic history, the Book of Daniel is entirely different (although certain people who hate Christians and who hate 1st Century Jews would love to see it "refuted").
Look up:
"NEW LIGHT ON THE BOOK OF DANIEL FROM THE DEAD SEA SCROLLS"
by Associates For Biblical Research
The sheer amount of historical information that has been lost and will likely never be found again is depressing. Even preserving the smallest fragment surviving from a source over 1700 years old is an absolute treasure.
@@Bonklers Dr. Hector Avalos, professor of Religious Studies at Iowa State University: "When Christians in power were not burning or destroying rival accounts of Jesus, they often changed the text of orthodox scriptures to conform to the scribes’ views." - Craig versus McCullagh: A Response to Travis James Campbell, Debunking Christianity.
@@Bonklers Dr. Tom Harpur, professor of New Testament and ordained Anglican priest: “a host of other scholars have documented such a horror story of book burning, forgery, and deliberate fraud over the late second, third, and fourth centuries that anyone unfamiliar with it can scarcely take it all in.” - The Pagan Christ.
@@mythbuster1483 Those other accounts were gnóstic trash, heresy condemned by the Apostles and their disciples such as Polycarp and clement of rome, st Ignatius of Antioch, etc. Plus the fact that we have a full New Testament form the time of Augustine, assures every Christian their text remains in accordance to those used by the early church. U know nothing of Christianity, you aren’t even a Christian, outsiders are obsessed with trying to disprove us lol.
@@danielespejo375 You have nothing written by the "apostles", who are literary characters in a fictional story, nor do you have anything written by the Church Fathers. All you have are edited versions of edited versions of documents written by anonymous, biased cult members, none of which you can prove accurately represent the lost originals, let alone that the stories in them are true. Dr Daniel B. Wallace: “none of the original documents of any church fathers remains. Almost all the copies of these early patristic writers come from the Middle Ages.” - The Majority Text and the Original Text: Are They Identical?
@@danielespejo375 Also, no one has to "disprove" absurd supernatural claims made with *NO EVIDENCE WHATSOEVER* . "The burden of proof is always on the person making an assertion or proposition. Shifting the burden of proof, a special case of argumentum ad ignorantium, is the fallacy of putting the burden of proof on the person who denies or questions the assertion being made." Dr. Philip A. Pecorino, Philosophy of Religion
I can watch Useful Charts talking about genealogy charts, timelines, and then pivot to talking about ancient manuscripts for hours!
Such a fascinating topic and I think more people (esp people who read the Bible) need to watch this video!!
The fact that the Bible has zero margin of deviation & includes 66 books by 40 writers, shows it’s divine origin. Even with copyist errors, they’re minute enough, to get back to the original texts! and the more copies we find, just like in March of last year, the more evidence we have for God! just like we keep finding more dead things buried in the ground; so as time goes by, we keep finding more evidence for God of the Bible, Not less!
The opposite can be said for evolution!
Copies of the bible are not '"evidence of god",please read a definition of "evidence", you have none , the more the bible is checked against archaeology the more it debunks itself. The Bible was never meant to be a litersl history.
@@jamestcatcato7132 nope archaeological digs prove the Bible stories were not made up and the piles and piles of manuscript evidence is also corroborative evidence showing that we can get back to the originals; because of the statistic probability of 40 writers not contradicting, Proves Gods hand was involved in it because of the thematic nature of the subjects not contradicting themselves!
Did you Google British Museum and the Bible yet you need to do that!
You’ll instantly see pictures of these!
27% of the Bible is prophecy! that’s future history written in advance! God is sticking his neck out there to get a cut off if he’s wrong, but he hasn’t been wrong, so the end of the world will happen just like the Bible says!
You cannot out psychologize the Bible for God not to throw you into hell for all eternity. In other words, you cannot come up with a good enough excuse here & now, so you won’t on judgment day. If you say you did not ask to be born God‘s gonna say you should’ve been born again, that means become a Christian, so that’s not gonna work!
So disprove the Bible psychologically it’s smarter than you!
If you can’t the Bible’s winning!
We have better science in the Bible of how everything got here than evolutionists because the first law of thermodynamics and DNA both point to a creator; they’re closed ended arguments saying they didn’t create themselves and nothing within the material universe created them!
Again, mic drop
@@jjphank You're completely misinformed. Dr. Gerd Ludemann, Chair of History and Literature of Early Christianity at the University of Göttingen: "the results of historical scholarship can be made known to the public - especially to believers - only with difficulty. Many Christians feel threatened if they hear that MOST of what was written in the Bible is (in historical terms) UNTRUE and that none of the four New Testament Gospels was written by the author listed at the top of the text." - Kêrygma and History in the Thought of Rudolf Bultmann
@@jjphank Dr. Justin J. Meggitt, Professor of Divinity, University of Cambridge: "The GOSPELS CANNOT BE TRUSTED as sources for historical data. They are full of contradictions, discrepancies, supernatural claims and obvious bias...Mark is a work of fiction not history. Mark was also written far too late to give any authentic historical facts." - ‘More Ingenious Than Learned’? Examining the Quest for the Non-Historical Jesus
The history of the Bible has always fascinated me. As a child I always questioned it. Not the theological meaning, but the history of when, where and how it was written. As well as the sources from other ancient writings.
This series is a wonderful collection of the Bible's history.
بسم الله الرحمن الرحيم
JESUS B PEACE ON HIM WAS POOPING AND PEE WAS EATING SLEEPING LIKE ANY ONE HE USE TO POOP EVERY TIME WHEN NATURE WORKS HE USED TO PEE AND SLEEP IGNORANT ADRESS PEOPLE'S OF NO REASONS.
CHAPTER 18 VERSES 1_5
ٱلْحَمْدُ لِلَّهِ ٱلَّذِىٓ أَنزَلَ عَلَىٰ عَبْدِهِ ٱلْكِتَٰبَ وَلَمْ يَجْعَل لَّهُۥ عِوَجَا ۜ
Praise be to Allah, Who hath sent to His Servant the Book, and hath allowed therein no Crookedness:
قَيِّمًا لِّيُنذِرَ بَأْسًا شَدِيدًا مِّن لَّدُنْهُ وَيُبَشِّرَ ٱلْمُؤْمِنِينَ ٱلَّذِينَ يَعْمَلُونَ ٱلصَّٰلِحَٰتِ أَنَّ لَهُمْ أَجْرًا حَسَنًا
(He hath made it) Straight (and Clear) in order that He may warn (the godless) of a terrible Punishment from Him, and that He may give Glad Tidings to the Believers who work righteous deeds, that they shall have a goodly Reward,
مَّٰكِثِينَ فِيهِ أَبَدًا
Further, that He may warn those (also) who say, "Allah hath begotten a son":
مَّا لَهُم بِهِۦ مِنْ عِلْمٍ وَلَا لِءَابَآئِهِمْ ۚ كَبُرَتْ كَلِمَةً تَخْرُجُ مِنْ أَفْوَٰهِهِمْ ۚ إِن يَقُولُونَ إِلَّا كَذِبًا
No knowledge have they of such a thing, nor had their fathers. It is a grievous thing that issues from their mouths as a saying what they say is nothing but falsehood!OK this are verses from your fabricated Bible:
Matthew 27:46
New International Version
46 About three in the afternoon Jesus cried out in a loud voice, “Eli, Eli,[a] lema sabachthani?” (which means “My God, my God, why have you forsaken me?”).[b](A)
Mark 11:12-25
New International Version
Jesus Curses a Fig Tree and Clears the Temple Courts(A)(B)(C)
12 The next day as they were leaving Bethany, Jesus was hungry. 13 Seeing in the distance a fig tree in leaf, he went to find out if it had any fruit. When he reached it, he found nothing but leaves, because it was not the season for figs.(D) 14 Then he said to the tree, “May no one ever eat fruit from you again.” And his disciples heard him say it.
A hungry God doesn't know about the Fig when it comes.
On reaching Jerusalem, Jesus entered the temple courts and began driving out those who were buying and selling there. He overturned the tables of the money changers and the benches of those selling doves, 16 and would not allow anyone to carry merchandise through the temple courts. 17 And as he taught them, he said, “Is it not written: ‘My house will be called a house of prayer for all nations’[a]?(E) But you have made it ‘a den of robbers.’[b]”(F)
18 The chief priests and the teachers of the law heard this and began looking for a way to kill him, for they feared him,(G) because the whole crowd was amazed at his teaching.(H)
19 When evening came, Jesus and his disciples[c] went out of the city.(I)
20 In the morning, as they went along, they saw the fig tree withered from the roots. 21 Peter remembered and said to Jesus, “Rabbi,(J) look! The fig tree you cursed has withered!”
22 “Have faith in God,” Jesus answered.
You doesn't understand you're Bible you're telling jokes.
A God crying to a god ? A God Cursed a tree because he didn't know about the Fig a God was walking in streets and buying things and shoping for food then teatch thing they did want to kill God this are you're logic
CHAPTER 25 VERSE 20
وَمَآ أَرْسَلْنَا قَبْلَكَ مِنَ ٱلْمُرْسَلِينَ إِلَّآ إِنَّهُمْ لَيَأْكُلُونَ ٱلطَّعَامَ وَيَمْشُونَ فِى ٱلْأَسْوَاقِ ۗ وَجَعَلْنَا بَعْضَكُمْ لِبَعْضٍ فِتْنَةً أَتَصْبِرُونَ ۗ وَكَانَ رَبُّكَ بَصِيرًا
And the messengers whom We sent before thee were all (men) who ate food and walked through the streets: We have made some of you as a trial for others: will ye have patience? for Allah is One Who sees (all things).
Yep there's no doubt that he's not God
CHAPTER 25 VERSE 7
وَقَالُوا۟ مَالِ هَٰذَا ٱلرَّسُولِ يَأْكُلُ ٱلطَّعَامَ وَيَمْشِى فِى ٱلْأَسْوَاقِ ۙ لَوْلَآ أُنزِلَ إِلَيْهِ مَلَكٌ فَيَكُونَ مَعَهُۥ نَذِيرًا
And they say: "What sort of a messenger is this, who eats food, and walks through the streets? Why has not an angel been sent down to him to give admonition with him?
CHAPTER 2 VERSES 257_258
ٱللَّهُ وَلِىُّ ٱلَّذِينَ ءَامَنُوا۟ يُخْرِجُهُم مِّنَ ٱلظُّلُمَٰتِ إِلَى ٱلنُّورِ ۖ وَٱلَّذِينَ كَفَرُوٓا۟ أَوْلِيَآؤُهُمُ ٱلطَّٰغُوتُ يُخْرِجُونَهُم مِّنَ ٱلنُّورِ إِلَى ٱلظُّلُمَٰتِ ۗ أُو۟لَٰٓئِكَ أَصْحَٰبُ ٱلنَّارِ ۖ هُمْ فِيهَا خَٰلِدُونَ
Allah is the Protector of those who have faith: from the depths of darkness He will lead them forth into light. Of those who reject faith the patrons are the evil ones: from light they will lead them forth into the depths of darkness. They will be companions of the fire, to dwell therein (For ever).
أَلَمْ تَرَ إِلَى ٱلَّذِى حَآجَّ إِبْرَٰهِۦمَ فِى رَبِّهِۦٓ أَنْ ءَاتَىٰهُ ٱللَّهُ ٱلْمُلْكَ إِذْ قَالَ إِبْرَٰهِۦمُ رَبِّىَ ٱلَّذِى يُحْىِۦ وَيُمِيتُ قَالَ أَنَا۠ أُحْىِۦ وَأُمِيتُ ۖ قَالَ إِبْرَٰهِۦمُ فَإِنَّ ٱللَّهَ يَأْتِى بِٱلشَّمْسِ مِنَ ٱلْمَشْرِقِ فَأْتِ بِهَا مِنَ ٱلْمَغْرِبِ فَبُهِتَ ٱلَّذِى كَفَرَ ۗ وَٱللَّهُ لَا يَهْدِى ٱلْقَوْمَ ٱلظَّٰلِمِينَ
Hast thou not Turned thy vision to one who disputed with Abraham About his Lord, because Allah had granted him power? Abraham said: "My Lord is He Who Giveth life and death." He said: "I give life and death". Said Abraham: "But it is Allah that causeth the sun to rise from the east: Do thou then cause him to rise from the West." Thus was he confounded who (in arrogance) rejected faith. Nor doth Allah Give guidance to a people unjust.
بسم الله الرحمن الرحيم
It is a soft stone of the type of water stone in which the feet of the Prophet Ibrahim sank and the traces of his feet emerged from it, but as a result of people wiping in it the features of the feet were blurred.
CHAPTER 2 VERSE 125
وَإِذْ جَعَلْنَا ٱلْبَيْتَ مَثَابَةً لِّلنَّاسِ وَأَمْنًا وَٱتَّخِذُوا۟ مِن مَّقَامِ إِبْرَٰهِۦمَ مُصَلًّى ۖ وَعَهِدْنَآ إِلَىٰٓ إِبْرَٰهِۦمَ وَإِسْمَٰعِيلَ أَن طَهِّرَا بَيْتِىَ لِلطَّآئِفِينَ وَٱلْعَٰكِفِينَ وَٱلرُّكَّعِ ٱلسُّجُودِ
Remember We made the House a place of assembly for men and a place of safety; and take ye the station of Abraham as a place of prayer; and We covenanted with Abraham and Isma'il, that they should sanctify My House for those who compass it round, or use it as a retreat, or bow, or prostrate themselves (therein in prayer).
CHAPTER 3 VERSES 96_97
إِنَّ أَوَّلَ بَيْتٍ وُضِعَ لِلنَّاسِ لَلَّذِى بِبَكَّةَ مُبَارَكًا وَهُدًى لِّلْعَٰلَمِينَ
The first House (of worship) appointed for men was that at Bakka: Full of blessing and of guidance for all kinds of beings:
فِيهِ ءَايَٰتٌۢ بَيِّنَٰتٌ مَّقَامُ إِبْرَٰهِيمَ ۖ وَمَن دَخَلَهُۥ كَانَ ءَامِنًا ۗ وَلِلَّهِ عَلَى ٱلنَّاسِ حِجُّ ٱلْبَيْتِ مَنِ ٱسْتَطَاعَ إِلَيْهِ سَبِيلًا ۚ وَمَن كَفَرَ فَإِنَّ ٱللَّهَ غَنِىٌّ عَنِ ٱلْعَٰلَمِينَ
In it are Signs Manifest; (for example), the Station of Abraham; whoever enters it attains security; Pilgrimage thereto is a duty men owe to Allah,- those who can afford the journey; but if any deny faith, Allah stands not in need of any of His creatures.
PSALM 84:1_6
How lovely is your dwelling place,(A)
Lord Almighty!
2 My soul yearns,(B) even faints,
for the courts of the Lord;
my heart and my flesh cry out
for the living God.(C)
3 Even the sparrow has found a home,
and the swallow a nest for herself,
where she may have her young-
a place near your altar,(D)
Lord Almighty,(E) my King(F) and my God.(G)
4 Blessed are those who dwell in your house;
they are ever praising you.[c]
5 Blessed are those whose strength(H) is in you,
whose hearts are set on pilgrimage.(I)
6 As they pass through the Valley of Baka,
they make it a place of springs;(J)
the autumn(K) rains also cover it with pools.[d]
CHAPTER 2 VERSES 201_202
فَإِذَا قَضَيْتُم مَّنَٰسِكَكُمْ فَٱذْكُرُوا۟ ٱللَّهَ كَذِكْرِكُمْ ءَابَآءَكُمْ أَوْ أَشَدَّ ذِكْرًا ۗ فَمِنَ ٱلنَّاسِ مَن يَقُولُ رَبَّنَآ ءَاتِنَا فِى ٱلدُّنْيَا وَمَا لَهُۥ فِى ٱلْءَاخِرَةِ مِنْ خَلَٰقٍ
So when ye have accomplished your holy rites, celebrate the praises of Allah, as ye used to celebrate the praises of your fathers,- yea, with far more Heart and soul. There are men who say: "Our Lord! Give us (Thy bounties) in this world!" but they will have no portion in the Hereafter.
وَمِنْهُم مَّن يَقُولُ رَبَّنَآ ءَاتِنَا فِى ٱلدُّنْيَا حَسَنَةً وَفِى ٱلْءَاخِرَةِ حَسَنَةً وَقِنَا عَذَابَ ٱلنَّارِ
And there are men who say: "Our Lord! Give us good in this world and good in the Hereafter, and defend us from the torment of the Fire!"
أُو۟لَٰٓئِكَ لَهُمْ نَصِيبٌ مِّمَّا كَسَبُوا۟ ۚ وَٱللَّهُ سَرِيعُ ٱلْحِسَابِ
these will be allotted what they have earned; and Allah is quick in account.
CHAPTER 2 VERSES 146_147
ٱلَّذِينَ ءَاتَيْنَٰهُمُ ٱلْكِتَٰبَ يَعْرِفُونَهُۥ كَمَا يَعْرِفُونَ أَبْنَآءَهُمْ ۖ وَإِنَّ
فَرِيقًا مِّنْهُمْ لَيَكْتُمُونَ ٱلْحَقَّ وَهُمْ يَعْلَمُونَ
The people of the Book know this as they know their own sons; but some of them conceal the truth which they themselves know
ٱلْحَقُّ مِن رَّبِّكَ ۖ فَلَا تَكُونَنَّ مِنَ ٱلْمُمْتَرِينَ
The Truth is from thy Lord; so be not at all in doubt.
CHAPTER 2 VERSES 100_101
أَوَكُلَّمَا عَٰهَدُوا۟ عَهْدًا نَّبَذَهُۥ فَرِيقٌ مِّنْهُم ۚ بَلْ أَكْثَرُهُمْ لَا يُؤْمِنُونَ
Is it not (the case) that every time they make a covenant, some party among them throw it aside?- Nay, Most of them are faithless.
وَلَمَّا جَآءَهُمْ رَسُولٌ مِّنْ عِندِ ٱللَّهِ مُصَدِّقٌ لِّمَا مَعَهُمْ نَبَذَ فَرِيقٌ مِّنَ ٱلَّذِينَ أُوتُوا۟ ٱلْكِتَٰبَ كِتَٰبَ ٱللَّهِ وَرَآءَ ظُهُورِهِمْ كَأَنَّهُمْ لَا يَعْلَمُونَ
And when there came to them a messenger from Allah, confirming what was with them, a party of the people of the Book threw away the Book of Allah behind their backs, as if (it had been something) they did not know!
THEY BEALIVE IN THEIR BOOKS WICH THEY MADE.
CHAPTER 2 VERSES 78_79
وَمِنْهُمْ أُمِّيُّونَ لَا يَعْلَمُونَ ٱلْكِتَٰبَ إِلَّآ أَمَانِىَّ وَإِنْ هُمْ إِلَّا يَظُنُّونَ
And there are among them illiterates, who know not the Book, but (see therein their own) desires, and they do nothing but conjecture.
فَوَيْلٌ لِّلَّذِينَ يَكْتُبُونَ ٱلْكِتَٰبَ بِأَيْدِيهِمْ ثُمَّ يَقُولُونَ هَٰذَا مِنْ عِندِ ٱللَّهِ لِيَشْتَرُوا۟ بِهِۦ ثَمَنًا قَلِيلًا ۖ فَوَيْلٌ لَّهُم مِّمَّا كَتَبَتْ أَيْدِيهِمْ وَوَيْلٌ لَّهُم مِّمَّا يَكْسِبُونَ
Then woe to those who write the Book with their own hands, and then say:"This is from Allah," to traffic with it for miserable price!- Woe to them for what their hands do write, and for the gain they make thereby.
CHAPTER 3 VERSES 71_72
يَٰٓأَهْلَ ٱلْكِتَٰبِ لِمَ تَلْبِسُونَ ٱلْحَقَّ بِٱلْبَٰطِلِ وَتَكْتُمُونَ ٱلْحَقَّ وَأَنتُمْ تَعْلَمُونَ
Ye People of the Book! Why do ye clothe Truth with falsehood, and conceal the Truth, while ye have knowledge?
وَقَالَت طَّآئِفَةٌ مِّنْ أَهْلِ ٱلْكِتَٰبِ ءَامِنُوا۟ بِٱلَّذِىٓ أُنزِلَ عَلَى ٱلَّذِينَ ءَامَنُوا۟ وَجْهَ ٱلنَّهَارِ وَٱكْفُرُوٓا۟ ءَاخِرَهُۥ لَعَلَّهُمْ يَرْجِعُونَ
A section of the People of the Book say: "Believe in the morning what is revealed to the believers, but reject it at the end of the day; perchance they may (themselves) Turn back;
CHAPTER 3 VERSE 64
قُلْ يَٰٓأَهْلَ ٱلْكِتَٰبِ تَعَالَوْا۟ إِلَىٰ كَلِمَةٍ سَوَآءٍۭ بَيْنَنَا وَبَيْنَكُمْ أَلَّا نَعْبُدَ إِلَّا ٱللَّهَ وَلَا نُشْرِكَ بِهِۦ شَيْـًٔا وَلَا يَتَّخِذَ بَعْضُنَا بَعْضًا أَرْبَابًا مِّن دُونِ ٱللَّهِ ۚ فَإِن تَوَلَّوْا۟ فَقُولُوا۟ ٱشْهَدُوا۟ بِأَنَّا مُسْلِمُونَ
Say: "O People of the Book! come to common terms as between us and you: That we worship none but Allah; that we associate no partners with him; that we erect not, from among ourselves, Lords and patrons other than Allah." If then they turn back, say ye: "Bear witness that we (at least) are Muslims (bowing to Allah's Will).
يَٰٓأَهْلَ ٱلْكِتَٰبِ لِمَ تُحَآجُّونَ فِىٓ إِبْرَٰهِيمَ وَمَآ أُنزِلَتِ ٱلتَّوْرَىٰةُ وَٱلْإِنجِيلُ إِلَّا مِنۢ بَعْدِهِۦٓ ۚ أَفَلَا تَعْقِلُونَ
Ye People of the Book! Why dispute ye about Abraham, when the Law and the Gospel Were not revealed Till after him? Have ye no understanding?
@@mohammadfatimazahra3006go kiss the black stone so your sin will be erased 😂😂😂
Its like the stone itself is your god 😂😂😂😂
Spoiler alert genesis wasn’t copied from the ugaritic texts or from gilgamesh it’s it’s own thing, and you can believe or disbelieve in it but it clearly isn’t copied from those
@@mohammadfatimazahra3006 dude the Bible is the 1st century accounts of Jesus so what if he went to the bathroom. 😂😂😂
There are many important points overlooked here. Papyrus (Plant material) Manuscripts would hardly last even 200 years under normal conditions but due to Egypt's dry condition somehow it survived other adversities like wars, termites and fire. While the Vellum Manuscripts made out of animal skin can last 1000s of years but it was very costly. So to write something the size of the complete bible on vellum was a grand project which only the imperial roman empire could afford. That's why all the complete Bible manuscripts comes after 313 AD when constantine legalized christianity. Before that the Diocletian Persecutions of 303 AD damaged many House Churches and the Papyrus manuscripts kept within them. This also has led to the destruction of a number of manuscripts before 303 AD.
If only one of these original papyrus manuscripts from the old and new testaments from a much easier date were blessed with heavenly characteristics to never decay and never be able to be destroyed by man in order to show their authenticity and reliability.
@@shamrock5725 apparently the Christian god didn't want them to keep their book as it was
@@salah777
Your Quran was compiled and standardized over 200 years after Mohamed under the orders of Uthman and he supposedly ordered the burning of all the other copies. There’s no copy of Uthman’s Quran that survived to this day. Your current Quran in use today is from the 1924 standardized Egyptian edition of Hafs Quran. The same guy accused by your Islamic scholars of lying according to your Islamic sources. Ask yourself this question; Which account regarding Jesus is more logical to believe in? The 1st century Biblical account written by His followers who were eyewitnesses who walked and talked with Him. Or would you rather believe in a 7th century account regarding Isa (counterfeit Jesus) written over 600 years after Jesus by someone who never met him let alone from the same country? I’m sure you know the more logical answer to the question, but you Muslims are infamous for believing anything your pedophile warlord of a false prophet would say.
More reason not to believe in the bible with all its "errors"
@@benjasamu6694 thats a big lie.
Not that it is missing from this video, but a separate video on the Nag Hammadi library would be very interesting. As always great video 👍
This was literally what I was going to suggest. That and other apocrypha.
I agree! That would be very interesting!
That was the first one that came to mind for me too. I imagine it's just a little bit too young to fit on the list. We'll call it number 11. And, yes, I second the call for a video about it.
Nag Hammadi ??? look up simony or Simon Magus followers "yes the one from ACTS". Gone over through Justin Myrter 100ad literature from the early church "pre Constintine and against heresies by irenaeus 100ad. Both wrote heavily about the false doctrines known at the time as Simony. Never before proven doctrine untill they found the Nag Hammadi scrolls
This was my feeling as well!
I remember my mother sometimes saying the words of the “Priestly Blessing” to us. I didn’t know what it was called until seeing your video. She was from a Jewish family but converted to Christianity..
It is very commonly used in Christian circles as well. We commonly used it as a closing blessing in the church where I was pastor for many years, not because it was my favourite, but because it had regularly been used since well before I arrived.
Your mom is Jewish not Christian and therefore you are Jewish and I recommend you get in touch with your roots !
Chase your roots ;-)
The Priestly Blessing is also used in lutheran services. I’m non-religious but grew up in a lutheran culture, so those words are almost a meme to me, but I always thought they were just something someone made up in the 1600s. To find out that they are the oldest preserved bible manuscript is king of mindblowing
Yes, my church is also Lutheran (evangelized by a German called Nommensen) and still used the Priestly Blessing for the service.
Our cogic church also quote this verse and sing a song quoting this verse
Presbyterian Church of Scotland use that blessing as well. It is often sung with a beautiful simple tune.
Regarding the 'existence of Julius Caesar' tangent: we also have roman coins bearing the portrait of Julius Caesar, with his name written on them. Struck while he was alive, and, pretty obviously, in charge, or he wouldn't have gotten his face and name on these coins. You know, in case any one still has any doubt after that masterful video :)
No coins with Jesus, King of Kings?
Shocking.
But the methods of attack are so uncontrolled that I can attack any historical figure. Like i can say "if there was a coin with Zeus on it, does that mean Zeus is real?" or "don't the people making the coins have an incentive to perpetuate the Caesar myth?"
@@muskyoxes There is ample evidence, historical and otherwise, that Roman coins were struck with the face of the reigning emperor. Even the Bible itself (New Testament, of course) uses this particular practice to make a theological point, via the "Render unto Caesar" story.
@@MarsJenkar I side with the video that both Caesar and Jesus were obviously real people, and i only intended to point out that nothing will stop a myther. All your evidence can be wiped away by techniques that Jesus mythers use.
The "reigning emperor" could be a mythological construction designed to make his traits and stories more easily malleable for effective rule. Who's to say? A myther always has a way out.
I was joking. Sheesh!
Didn't ANYONE catch the absurdity of my statement? No.
I feel sad for all of you.
You could have laughed, instead of making ridiculous assumptions and needless counter arguments based on a joke. Lighten up.
Your awesome! Why couldn’t 90’s education be this comprehensive!! You rock and I love your coverage of this topic and tons of others! Your one of the most professional UA-camr I’ve watched!
I study history and religious education at a university in germany and what you presented in your video is 100% congruent to what professors tell us. I'm happy to see such high quality content.
Dr. Bart Ehrman, Distinguished Professor of Religious Studies at the University of North Carolina: "Christian scholars of the Bible, including the top Protestant and Catholic scholars of America, will tell you that *THE BIBLE IS FULL OF LIES* , even if they refuse to use the term. And here is the truth: Many of the books of the New Testament were written by people who lied about their identity, claiming to be a famous apostle - Peter, Paul or James - knowing full well they were someone else. In modern parlance, that is a lie, and a book written by someone who lies about his identity is a forgery." - Who Wrote The Bible and Why It Matters
An interesting presentation of biblical documents and useful discussion. thanks for posting it.
What is interesting with the New Testament is that 25 out of the 27 books were quoted from from about 55 to 115 A.D, by four men. Paul of Tarsus, Clement of Rome, Polycarp and Ignatius.
That Paul quotes from Luke twice shows that the gospels were written maybe within 20 years of Jesus’ death. As Paul’s writings are dated to the 50’s, and he quotes from Lukes gospel which as his intro states uses eyewitness sources, we find accounts from Matthew and Mark in his work.
This puts them in the 40’s or even earlier.
@@farmercraig6080 Nope---FAIL! Prove any of your claims. Show me any manuscript dated to the 1st century. For example, you have nothing written by ‘Paul’, only manuscripts by anonymous, biased scribes dated hundreds of years after the supposed events, many of which are proven forgeries IN THEIR ENTIRETY, and none of which you can prove that even a single word of the text originated with ‘Paul’ in the 1st century. Dr. William O. Walker, Professor Emeritus of Religion, Trinity University: “First, not a single early manuscript of an individual Pauline letter has survived...All we can KNOW WITH CERTAINTY is that the surviving text of the Pauline letters is the text promoted-and perhaps produced-by the historical winners in the theological and ecclesiastical struggles of the second and third centuries...What the earlier text of Paul's letters MAY HAVE BEEN remains, probably forever, shrouded in the mists of obscurity. Suppression and destruction of earlier manuscripts would suggest, however, that these manuscripts may have differed in significant ways from the standardized text that survived…In short, it can no longer simply be assumed that ANY passage was an original part of the letter in which it now appears, or indeed that it is authentically Pauline.” - Interpolations in the Pauline Letters.
@@farmercraig6080 Regarding 'Polycarp', you've been deceived by proven liars and frauds. Dr. Bart Ehrman, “The Martyrdom of Polycarp was long believed to be an eyewitness report produced not long after the event itself, often dated to 155 or 156 CE. Recent scholarship, however, has argued that the narrative is a forgery produced sometime in the early third century.” - The Triumph of Christianity, 2018.
Dr. Candida Moss, professor of early Christianity at the University of Notre Dame: “the earliest martyrdom account [Martyrdom of Polycarp]…is a pious fraud. It pretends to be written by eyewitnesses, but in fact it was not…It is a theological narrative written perhaps as late as a hundred years after the events it describes…At this point, we have to ask ourselves, what can we trust about Polycarp himself?…we have to face the possibility that the martyr we admire is the invention of the author. He is a pious, appreciative, and earnest invention, but an invention nonetheless.” - The Myth of Persecution: How Early Christians Invented a Story of Martyrdom
11:40 Fun bit of trivia: The Oxford and Cambridge colleges of Magdalen and Magdalene respectively are pronounced “Mawd-lin” which causes some confusion in the cities, as Oxford also has an unrelated St MaryMagdalen Church and Magdalen Street which are often mispronounced as “mawd-lin” but should actually be pronounced “mag-da-lin”
JESUS B PEACE ON HIM WAS POOPING AND PEE WAS EATING SLEEPING LIKE ANY ONE HE USE TO POOP EVERY TIME WHEN NATURE WORKS HE USED TO PEE AND SLEEP IGNORANT ADRESS PEOPLE'S OF NO REASONS.
CHAPTER 18 VERSES 1_5
ٱلْحَمْدُ لِلَّهِ ٱلَّذِىٓ أَنزَلَ عَلَىٰ عَبْدِهِ ٱلْكِتَٰبَ وَلَمْ يَجْعَل لَّهُۥ عِوَجَا ۜ
Praise be to Allah, Who hath sent to His Servant the Book, and hath allowed therein no Crookedness:
قَيِّمًا لِّيُنذِرَ بَأْسًا شَدِيدًا مِّن لَّدُنْهُ وَيُبَشِّرَ ٱلْمُؤْمِنِينَ ٱلَّذِينَ يَعْمَلُونَ ٱلصَّٰلِحَٰتِ أَنَّ لَهُمْ أَجْرًا حَسَنًا
(He hath made it) Straight (and Clear) in order that He may warn (the godless) of a terrible Punishment from Him, and that He may give Glad Tidings to the Believers who work righteous deeds, that they shall have a goodly Reward,
مَّٰكِثِينَ فِيهِ أَبَدًا
Further, that He may warn those (also) who say, "Allah hath begotten a son":
مَّا لَهُم بِهِۦ مِنْ عِلْمٍ وَلَا لِءَابَآئِهِمْ ۚ كَبُرَتْ كَلِمَةً تَخْرُجُ مِنْ أَفْوَٰهِهِمْ ۚ إِن يَقُولُونَ إِلَّا كَذِبًا
No knowledge have they of such a thing, nor had their fathers. It is a grievous thing that issues from their mouths as a saying what they say is nothing but falsehood!
I heard that, and a couple of other mispronunciations, but decided not to make an issue of them.
@@Spearca The original college charter refers to "Maudelayne College" - the spelling has moved more than pronunciation
found your channel accidentally, immediately subscribed. Very interesting, very well done, and not dogmatic. Grew up catholic but dropped out age 14 (when pastor called me a heretic for questioning the trinity). Now belong to an episcopal church, but not practicing. Prefer to study on my own. With help from people like you. Thank you.
Have you ever thought about reading the Qur’an? Try it, you won't lose anything
I read most of it yes @@hassanzayed1981
I’d strongly recommend GotQuestions as well. It’s a website and a UA-cam channel
brilliantly done. You might add something on how ancient manuscripts were copied, from master copy on parchment to working copies on cheaper materials, etc. For instance, Middle Kingdom Egyptians took about 200 years to wear out an original master parchment by the mere act of copying to preserve the texts and records. Master copyists would make the master parchments, lower scribes would make the lesser copies.
Imagine being a lowly scribe whose name has been lost to history, but whose handwriting still stands as evidence of facts you never witnessed yourself. I hope they are proud, wherever they may be.
@@lucaskitamura614 Calling absurd claims by anonymous, biased scribes "fact" is either ignorant or a deliberate lie. Uncorroborated STORIES are not 'facts', and what you really have are the least credible kind of claims, which aren't evidence that Jesus even existed, let alone that his mother was impregnated by a god, or that he had superpowers, or that his rotting corpse magically returned to life. If it says so in a book with a talking snake, talking donkey, 900-year-old men, virgin birth and zombies, written by anonymous, biased members of a death cult, then it MUST be a reliable source?!! *SUCKER* - “a person who believes everything they are told and is therefore easy to deceive” - Cambridge Dictionary
I would like to see something on scripture quoted by the early church fathers, and the dates given. These would not necessarily be manuscripts, but would have direct quotes from both the Old and New Testament. It might even be older than the manuscripts presented for the NT.
Most of are during the time of the apostles or just after including clements first epistle dated to around 96 AD, Ignatius and Polycarp are all dated before 110 AD. All were taught under the apostles or by people who knew Yeshua directly.
Jerome was a lawyer,there's a reason that rhymes with LIAR!
@@jamestcatcato7132 ???
@@WoyBoy12 You've been misinformed, and the letters of Ignatius are forgeries: “a significant number of Ignatian researchers views the Ignatian letters as pseudepigraphic [forged] compositions and dates them to the end of the second century.”- The Date and Authenticity of the Ignatian Letters: An Outline of Recent Discussions (2020). Dr. Bart Ehman, “And there were the thirteen letters of Ignatius of Antioch, six of them forged and the others falsely and severely interpolated...And the six forged letters of the Long Recension of Ignatius were intermingled with the authentic seven, which were themselves interpolated by the forger of the six. In both these instances the perpetrators were remarkably successful; their handiwork was not uncovered until relatively modern times….The author forged these letters to show what Ignatius would have said as a leading heresiologist of his time, but more than this, as a reputed authority, both as the bishop of a major see, and above all as one of the first known Christian martyrs” ” - Forgery and Counterforgery.
@@WoyBoy12 The Polycarp story is fictional and a forgery. Dr. Bart Ehrman, “The Martyrdom of Polycarp was long believed to be an eyewitness report produced not long after the event itself, often dated to 155 or 156 CE. Recent scholarship, however, has argued that the narrative is a forgery produced sometime in the early third century.” - The Triumph of Christianity, 2018. Dr. Candida Moss, professor of early Christianity at the University of Notre Dame: “the earliest martyrdom account [Martyrdom of Polycarp]…is a pious fraud. It pretends to be written by eyewitnesses, but in fact it was not…It is a theological narrative written perhaps as late as a hundred years after the events it describes…At this point, we have to ask ourselves, what can we trust about Polycarp himself?…we have to face the possibility that the martyr we admire is the invention of the author. He is a pious, appreciative, and earnest invention, but an invention nonetheless.” - The Myth of Persecution: How Early Christians Invented a Story of Martyrdom
I spent a week in Dublin some years ago, and I visited the Chester Beatty library twice in that time. Along with those early Christian papyri there are early Islamic texts, Chinese, Indic. It's a fabulous place, and highly recommend.
بسم الله الرحمن الرحيم
JESUS B PEACE ON HIM WAS POOPING AND PEE WAS EATING SLEEPING LIKE ANY ONE HE USE TO POOP EVERY TIME WHEN NATURE WORKS HE USED TO PEE AND SLEEP IGNORANT ADRESS PEOPLE'S OF NO REASONS.
CHAPTER 18 VERSES 1_5
ٱلْحَمْدُ لِلَّهِ ٱلَّذِىٓ أَنزَلَ عَلَىٰ عَبْدِهِ ٱلْكِتَٰبَ وَلَمْ يَجْعَل لَّهُۥ عِوَجَا ۜ
Praise be to Allah, Who hath sent to His Servant the Book, and hath allowed therein no Crookedness:
قَيِّمًا لِّيُنذِرَ بَأْسًا شَدِيدًا مِّن لَّدُنْهُ وَيُبَشِّرَ ٱلْمُؤْمِنِينَ ٱلَّذِينَ يَعْمَلُونَ ٱلصَّٰلِحَٰتِ أَنَّ لَهُمْ أَجْرًا حَسَنًا
(He hath made it) Straight (and Clear) in order that He may warn (the godless) of a terrible Punishment from Him, and that He may give Glad Tidings to the Believers who work righteous deeds, that they shall have a goodly Reward,
مَّٰكِثِينَ فِيهِ أَبَدًا
Further, that He may warn those (also) who say, "Allah hath begotten a son":
مَّا لَهُم بِهِۦ مِنْ عِلْمٍ وَلَا لِءَابَآئِهِمْ ۚ كَبُرَتْ كَلِمَةً تَخْرُجُ مِنْ أَفْوَٰهِهِمْ ۚ إِن يَقُولُونَ إِلَّا كَذِبًا
No knowledge have they of such a thing, nor had their fathers. It is a grievous thing that issues from their mouths as a saying what they say is nothing but falsehood!OK this are verses from your fabricated Bible:
Matthew 27:46
New International Version
46 About three in the afternoon Jesus cried out in a loud voice, “Eli, Eli,[a] lema sabachthani?” (which means “My God, my God, why have you forsaken me?”).[b](A)
Mark 11:12-25
New International Version
Jesus Curses a Fig Tree and Clears the Temple Courts(A)(B)(C)
12 The next day as they were leaving Bethany, Jesus was hungry. 13 Seeing in the distance a fig tree in leaf, he went to find out if it had any fruit. When he reached it, he found nothing but leaves, because it was not the season for figs.(D) 14 Then he said to the tree, “May no one ever eat fruit from you again.” And his disciples heard him say it.
A hungry God doesn't know about the Fig when it comes.
You could do a video about the oldest documentation that we have about Ancient Israel. An interesting document is the Hezekiah inscription found at Silwan in Jerusalem.
It describes how king Hezekiah build the water channel below the Temple Mount, and it is written with ancient hebrew letters. It says that two groups of men started diggin at opposite extremes, and they were reunited in the middle, so the inscription was found at the place they were reunited. Sorry about my english.
Another interesting document is the LMLK seals (LaMelekh: belonging to the King). And another plethora of coins and seals, written in ancient hebrew letters.
I see that some of these documents you briefly talked about before, but it would be nice a more complete video about them. Keep up the good work
Hugely interesting video, I was aware of the fact that most religious texts were mauscripts from years later, However, I didn't really realise that other non-religious text were from so much later. I'd love to see an exploration of Muslim and other religious text, and general writings from History in the same manner, excellent video as always.
Nah the Islamic manuscripts date to the time of the prophet
@@ray_light44 I don't know anything about it, so that's interesting to know thanks.
@@ray_light44 Nope.. Not even a single complete quran manuscript with all the 114 chapters and 6236 verses even within the 10th century. That is 400 years after the standard islamic narrative about islam's origin.
@@alangervasis Topkapi manuscript early 8th century...
@@ray_light44
Typical Muslim lying for the sake of their false prophet. Your Quran was compiled over 200 years later after Mohamed under the order of Uthman and he supposedly also ordered the burning of all the other Quranic copies. There’s no copy of Uthman’s Quran that survived to this day. Your current Quran in use today is from the 1924 standardized Egyptian edition of Hafs Quran. The same guy accused by your Islamic scholars of lying according to your Islamic sources.
I enjoyed this video. A couple of corrections (maybe someone else caught these, I haven’t had time to go through all the comments). Your date of discovery for the Bodmer and Beatty papyri are accidentally reversed. The Bodmer papyri are thought to have been discovered in 1952 (as reported by James Robinson in his book The Story of the Bodmer Papyri). More specifically, P66 was purchased in 1955 and likely discovered in 1954. It was the Beatty papyri that was discovered in the 1930s. You accidentally have those two dates switched in the video.
Great video. Really enjoyed it.
one other notable manuscript is the wulfila bible from the 4th century, which is notable for being written in gothic, an extinct language that has only little writing surviving to this day. It is as such very valuable for linguistics
Google 101 Bible contradictions
Or the fulacrapa videos like this one, lie and do not the truth!
40 writers wrote the Bible, no contradictions proves God wrote the Bible and you’ll have no excuse on judgment day !
Just like in March of last year, we keep finding more copies of the Bible like we keep finding more dead things buried in the ground like there was a worldwide flood! So as time goes by we keep finding more evidence for God of the Bible, not less!
The same cannot be said for evolution; all of Darwin’s black boxes are open and they are empty!
@@May3yad3 no contradictions in the Bible , that website shows they are taken out of context! just from numerical errors but it has been well preserved beyond the pail of history!
What a gigantic miracle!
That means God has squeaky clean hands to throw you in hell based on that one fact alone! and God of the Bible has left evidence in every category you can think of science archaeology manuscript evidence statistic probability psychology etc.
Try me I dare you
@@jjphank Yes, dear. Now go with the nice men in the white coat, and get the pills that make you feel better.
@@jjphank what utter rubbish!
Why would an incorporeal being need "clean hands"?
i would love a video on the early church father's usage of passages of the Bible, their age and their comparison with the manuscripts of the Bible.
For people interested, the Chester Beatty museum is in Dublin castle, where you can see the manuscripts (along with many other things) free of entry.
JESUS B PEACE ON HIM WAS POOPING AND PEE WAS EATING SLEEPING LIKE ANY ONE HE USE TO POOP EVERY TIME WHEN NATURE WORKS HE USED TO PEE AND SLEEP IGNORANT ADRESS PEOPLE'S OF NO REASONS.
CHAPTER 18 VERSES 1_5
ٱلْحَمْدُ لِلَّهِ ٱلَّذِىٓ أَنزَلَ عَلَىٰ عَبْدِهِ ٱلْكِتَٰبَ وَلَمْ يَجْعَل لَّهُۥ عِوَجَا ۜ
Praise be to Allah, Who hath sent to His Servant the Book, and hath allowed therein no Crookedness:
قَيِّمًا لِّيُنذِرَ بَأْسًا شَدِيدًا مِّن لَّدُنْهُ وَيُبَشِّرَ ٱلْمُؤْمِنِينَ ٱلَّذِينَ يَعْمَلُونَ ٱلصَّٰلِحَٰتِ أَنَّ لَهُمْ أَجْرًا حَسَنًا
(He hath made it) Straight (and Clear) in order that He may warn (the godless) of a terrible Punishment from Him, and that He may give Glad Tidings to the Believers who work righteous deeds, that they shall have a goodly Reward,
مَّٰكِثِينَ فِيهِ أَبَدًا
Further, that He may warn those (also) who say, "Allah hath begotten a son":
مَّا لَهُم بِهِۦ مِنْ عِلْمٍ وَلَا لِءَابَآئِهِمْ ۚ كَبُرَتْ كَلِمَةً تَخْرُجُ مِنْ أَفْوَٰهِهِمْ ۚ إِن يَقُولُونَ إِلَّا كَذِبًا
No knowledge have they of such a thing, nor had their fathers. It is a grievous thing that issues from their mouths as a saying what they say is nothing but falsehood!OK this are verses from your fabricated Bible:
Matthew 27:46
New International Version
46 About three in the afternoon Jesus cried out in a loud voice, “Eli, Eli,[a] lema sabachthani?” (which means “My God, my God, why have you forsaken me?”).[b](A)
Mark 11:12-25
New International Version
Jesus Curses a Fig Tree and Clears the Temple Courts(A)(B)(C)
12 The next day as they were leaving Bethany, Jesus was hungry. 13 Seeing in the distance a fig tree in leaf, he went to find out if it had any fruit. When he reached it, he found nothing but leaves, because it was not the season for figs.(D) 14 Then he said to the tree, “May no one ever eat fruit from you again.” And his disciples heard him say it.
A hungry God doesn't know about the Fig when it comes.
On reaching Jerusalem, Jesus entered the temple courts and began driving out those who were buying and selling there. He overturned the tables of the money changers and the benches of those selling doves, 16 and would not allow anyone to carry merchandise through the temple courts. 17 And as he taught them, he said, “Is it not written: ‘My house will be called a house of prayer for all nations’[a]?(E) But you have made it ‘a den of robbers.’[b]”(F)
18 The chief priests and the teachers of the law heard this and began looking for a way to kill him, for they feared him,(G) because the whole crowd was amazed at his teaching.(H)
19 When evening came, Jesus and his disciples[c] went out of the city.(I)
20 In the morning, as they went along, they saw the fig tree withered from the roots. 21 Peter remembered and said to Jesus, “Rabbi,(J) look! The fig tree you cursed has withered!”
22 “Have faith in God,” Jesus answered.
You doesn't understand you're Bible you're telling jokes.
A God crying to a god ? A God Cursed a tree because he didn't know about the Fig a God was walking in streets and buying things and shoping for food then teatch thing they did want to kill God this are you're logic
CHAPTER 25 VERSE 20
وَمَآ أَرْسَلْنَا قَبْلَكَ مِنَ ٱلْمُرْسَلِينَ إِلَّآ إِنَّهُمْ لَيَأْكُلُونَ ٱلطَّعَامَ وَيَمْشُونَ فِى ٱلْأَسْوَاقِ ۗ وَجَعَلْنَا بَعْضَكُمْ لِبَعْضٍ فِتْنَةً أَتَصْبِرُونَ ۗ وَكَانَ رَبُّكَ بَصِيرًا
And the messengers whom We sent before thee were all (men) who ate food and walked through the streets: We have made some of you as a trial for others: will ye have patience? for Allah is One Who sees (all things).
Yep there's no doubt that he's not God
CHAPTER 25 VERSE 7
وَقَالُوا۟ مَالِ هَٰذَا ٱلرَّسُولِ يَأْكُلُ ٱلطَّعَامَ وَيَمْشِى فِى ٱلْأَسْوَاقِ ۙ لَوْلَآ أُنزِلَ إِلَيْهِ مَلَكٌ فَيَكُونَ مَعَهُۥ نَذِيرًا
And they say: "What sort of a messenger is this, who eats food, and walks through the streets? Why has not an angel been sent down to him to give admonition with him?مَا كَانَ لِبَشَرٍ أَن يُؤْتِيَهُ ٱللَّـهُ ٱلْكِتَـٰبَ وَٱلْحُكْمَ وَٱلنُّبُوَّةَ ثُمَّ يَقُولَ لِلنَّاسِ كُونُوا۟ عِبَادًا لِّى مِن دُونِ ٱللَّـهِ وَلَـٰكِن كُونُوا۟ رَبَّـٰنِيِّـۧنَ بِمَا كُنتُمْ تُعَلِّمُونَ ٱلْكِتَـٰبَ وَبِمَا كُنتُمْ تَدْرُسُونَ It is not (possible) that a man, to whom is given the Book, and Wisdom, and the prophetic office, should say to people: "Be ye my worshippers rather than Allah's": on the contrary (He would say) "Be ye worshippers of Him Who is truly the Cherisher of all: For ye have taught the Book and ye have studied it earnestly."
I think we have to apply the same rule of quality over quantity to the early 1st to 5th century writings as we do to all other texts. That being that the condition of the texts is relatively irrelevant, their very existence leads us to the understanding that humans were around that decided it was important to write down those events
No Christian apologists actually question the content of other historical documents as you supposed, it's just points to the authenticity of the bible. The bible and its contents are (I believe unfairly) scrutinized much more than the other historical texts in an effort to dismiss them theologically.
Totally. Regardless of how much evidence there is, people just want to find reasons to completely dismiss it.
@@pianoatthirty if you look purely at the archaeological evidence, it actually proves biblical claims
I'm not a theist but really enjoyed this presentation. Regardless of belief, the Bible has played (and still does) a huge role for good or bad in shaping western or European culture and on that, the book or rather IMO A Library in a single volume, its history, origins and its contextual criticism should be of great value and time well spent. Some years back I discovered the British Museum's website with Codex Sinaiticus and found it a valuable resource, even for those like myself who lack any expertise with such older text and unfamiliar language. Can't encourage people of faith or lack of faith more to spend a minute or two taking a look at this marvelous text from humanity's past.
Now I want to see a timeline tracing the origin of the text, when a manuscript was written, and when that manuscript was discovered. Preferably with all ten of these examples in parallel (and, heck, alongside the McDowells' examples).
All they can do is guess on age of a text, none have dates.
Despite being an atheist, I find your videos on various religious topics and texts to be extremely interesting. Your series on "who wrote the bible & quran" as well as this video are truly spellbinding! Thank you so much for this amazing content!
The Bible was written by the apostles and holy inspired by our heavenly Father.
The Quran was written by man and inspired by the devil satan
Michele, I think the best way to try to convince Queck of something would be to have a respectful discussion about it. I think what you’ve commented comes across as stripping them of their dignity as a person by assuming that simply stating something will convince them it is true, versus engaging with them in a way that acknowledges their ability to reason and discern. Just a thought.
Great to know that I am not the only person here who is not a Christian (Wiccan here), but finds these fascinating!
@@michelemcguire8995 lmaooo your funny that's false. If god was real he would want us to be a good person, not believe in him. Or else he isn't a god. Also Hinduism is better because Christians say non Christians go to hell, Muslims say non Muslims are bad, but Hindus say everyone is your family and everyone is one, whether you believe or not, therefore it better
I absolutely love your coverage of early biblical texts. Thank you for such thorough research and explanations.
JESUS B PEACE ON HIM WAS POOPING AND PEE WAS EATING SLEEPING LIKE ANY ONE HE USE TO POOP EVERY TIME WHEN NATURE WORKS HE USED TO PEE AND SLEEP IGNORANT ADRESS PEOPLE'S OF NO REASONS.
CHAPTER 18 VERSES 1_5
ٱلْحَمْدُ لِلَّهِ ٱلَّذِىٓ أَنزَلَ عَلَىٰ عَبْدِهِ ٱلْكِتَٰبَ وَلَمْ يَجْعَل لَّهُۥ عِوَجَا ۜ
Praise be to Allah, Who hath sent to His Servant the Book, and hath allowed therein no Crookedness:
قَيِّمًا لِّيُنذِرَ بَأْسًا شَدِيدًا مِّن لَّدُنْهُ وَيُبَشِّرَ ٱلْمُؤْمِنِينَ ٱلَّذِينَ يَعْمَلُونَ ٱلصَّٰلِحَٰتِ أَنَّ لَهُمْ أَجْرًا حَسَنًا
(He hath made it) Straight (and Clear) in order that He may warn (the godless) of a terrible Punishment from Him, and that He may give Glad Tidings to the Believers who work righteous deeds, that they shall have a goodly Reward,
مَّٰكِثِينَ فِيهِ أَبَدًا
Further, that He may warn those (also) who say, "Allah hath begotten a son":
مَّا لَهُم بِهِۦ مِنْ عِلْمٍ وَلَا لِءَابَآئِهِمْ ۚ كَبُرَتْ كَلِمَةً تَخْرُجُ مِنْ أَفْوَٰهِهِمْ ۚ إِن يَقُولُونَ إِلَّا كَذِبًا
No knowledge have they of such a thing, nor had their fathers. It is a grievous thing that issues from their mouths as a saying what they say is nothing but falsehood!OK this are verses from your fabricated Bible:
Matthew 27:46
New International Version
46 About three in the afternoon Jesus cried out in a loud voice, “Eli, Eli,[a] lema sabachthani?” (which means “My God, my God, why have you forsaken me?”).[b](A)
Mark 11:12-25
New International Version
Jesus Curses a Fig Tree and Clears the Temple Courts(A)(B)(C)
12 The next day as they were leaving Bethany, Jesus was hungry. 13 Seeing in the distance a fig tree in leaf, he went to find out if it had any fruit. When he reached it, he found nothing but leaves, because it was not the season for figs.(D) 14 Then he said to the tree, “May no one ever eat fruit from you again.” And his disciples heard him say it.
A hungry God doesn't know about the Fig when it comes.
On reaching Jerusalem, Jesus entered the temple courts and began driving out those who were buying and selling there. He overturned the tables of the money changers and the benches of those selling doves, 16 and would not allow anyone to carry merchandise through the temple courts. 17 And as he taught them, he said, “Is it not written: ‘My house will be called a house of prayer for all nations’[a]?(E) But you have made it ‘a den of robbers.’[b]”(F)
18 The chief priests and the teachers of the law heard this and began looking for a way to kill him, for they feared him,(G) because the whole crowd was amazed at his teaching.(H)
19 When evening came, Jesus and his disciples[c] went out of the city.(I)
20 In the morning, as they went along, they saw the fig tree withered from the roots. 21 Peter remembered and said to Jesus, “Rabbi,(J) look! The fig tree you cursed has withered!”
22 “Have faith in God,” Jesus answered.
You doesn't understand you're Bible you're telling jokes.
A God crying to a god ? A God Cursed a tree because he didn't know about the Fig a God was walking in streets and buying things and shoping for food then teatch thing they did want to kill God this are you're logic
CHAPTER 25 VERSE 20
وَمَآ أَرْسَلْنَا قَبْلَكَ مِنَ ٱلْمُرْسَلِينَ إِلَّآ إِنَّهُمْ لَيَأْكُلُونَ ٱلطَّعَامَ وَيَمْشُونَ فِى ٱلْأَسْوَاقِ ۗ وَجَعَلْنَا بَعْضَكُمْ لِبَعْضٍ فِتْنَةً أَتَصْبِرُونَ ۗ وَكَانَ رَبُّكَ بَصِيرًا
And the messengers whom We sent before thee were all (men) who ate food and walked through the streets: We have made some of you as a trial for others: will ye have patience? for Allah is One Who sees (all things).
Yep there's no doubt that he's not God
CHAPTER 25 VERSE 7
وَقَالُوا۟ مَالِ هَٰذَا ٱلرَّسُولِ يَأْكُلُ ٱلطَّعَامَ وَيَمْشِى فِى ٱلْأَسْوَاقِ ۙ لَوْلَآ أُنزِلَ إِلَيْهِ مَلَكٌ فَيَكُونَ مَعَهُۥ نَذِيرًا
And they say: "What sort of a messenger is this, who eats food, and walks through the streets? Why has not an angel been sent down to him to give admonition with him?
UsefulCharts channel is, indeed, useful.
I was going to request this and here I found you already made it on the same day! That's it, I'm recommending you to my family members who are historians.
Side note: I wish my teachers in school used charts more before I got to college.
😅
JESUS B PEACE ON HIM WAS POOPING AND PEE WAS EATING SLEEPING LIKE ANY ONE HE USE TO POOP EVERY TIME WHEN NATURE WORKS HE USED TO PEE AND SLEEP IGNORANT ADRESS PEOPLE'S OF NO REASONS.
CHAPTER 18 VERSES 1_5
ٱلْحَمْدُ لِلَّهِ ٱلَّذِىٓ أَنزَلَ عَلَىٰ عَبْدِهِ ٱلْكِتَٰبَ وَلَمْ يَجْعَل لَّهُۥ عِوَجَا ۜ
Praise be to Allah, Who hath sent to His Servant the Book, and hath allowed therein no Crookedness:
قَيِّمًا لِّيُنذِرَ بَأْسًا شَدِيدًا مِّن لَّدُنْهُ وَيُبَشِّرَ ٱلْمُؤْمِنِينَ ٱلَّذِينَ يَعْمَلُونَ ٱلصَّٰلِحَٰتِ أَنَّ لَهُمْ أَجْرًا حَسَنًا
(He hath made it) Straight (and Clear) in order that He may warn (the godless) of a terrible Punishment from Him, and that He may give Glad Tidings to the Believers who work righteous deeds, that they shall have a goodly Reward,
مَّٰكِثِينَ فِيهِ أَبَدًا
Further, that He may warn those (also) who say, "Allah hath begotten a son":
مَّا لَهُم بِهِۦ مِنْ عِلْمٍ وَلَا لِءَابَآئِهِمْ ۚ كَبُرَتْ كَلِمَةً تَخْرُجُ مِنْ أَفْوَٰهِهِمْ ۚ إِن يَقُولُونَ إِلَّا كَذِبًا
No knowledge have they of such a thing, nor had their fathers. It is a grievous thing that issues from their mouths as a saying what they say is nothing but falsehood!OK this are verses from your fabricated Bible:
Matthew 27:46
New International Version
46 About three in the afternoon Jesus cried out in a loud voice, “Eli, Eli,[a] lema sabachthani?” (which means “My God, my God, why have you forsaken me?”).[b](A)
Mark 11:12-25
New International Version
Jesus Curses a Fig Tree and Clears the Temple Courts(A)(B)(C)
12 The next day as they were leaving Bethany, Jesus was hungry. 13 Seeing in the distance a fig tree in leaf, he went to find out if it had any fruit. When he reached it, he found nothing but leaves, because it was not the season for figs.(D) 14 Then he said to the tree, “May no one ever eat fruit from you again.” And his disciples heard him say it.
A hungry God doesn't know about the Fig when it comes.
On reaching Jerusalem, Jesus entered the temple courts and began driving out those who were buying and selling there. He overturned the tables of the money changers and the benches of those selling doves, 16 and would not allow anyone to carry merchandise through the temple courts. 17 And as he taught them, he said, “Is it not written: ‘My house will be called a house of prayer for all nations’[a]?(E) But you have made it ‘a den of robbers.’[b]”(F)
18 The chief priests and the teachers of the law heard this and began looking for a way to kill him, for they feared him,(G) because the whole crowd was amazed at his teaching.(H)
19 When evening came, Jesus and his disciples[c] went out of the city.(I)
20 In the morning, as they went along, they saw the fig tree withered from the roots. 21 Peter remembered and said to Jesus, “Rabbi,(J) look! The fig tree you cursed has withered!”
22 “Have faith in God,” Jesus answered.
You doesn't understand you're Bible you're telling jokes.
A God crying to a god ? A God Cursed a tree because he didn't know about the Fig a God was walking in streets and buying things and shoping for food then teatch thing they did want to kill God this are you're logic
CHAPTER 25 VERSE 20
وَمَآ أَرْسَلْنَا قَبْلَكَ مِنَ ٱلْمُرْسَلِينَ إِلَّآ إِنَّهُمْ لَيَأْكُلُونَ ٱلطَّعَامَ وَيَمْشُونَ فِى ٱلْأَسْوَاقِ ۗ وَجَعَلْنَا بَعْضَكُمْ لِبَعْضٍ فِتْنَةً أَتَصْبِرُونَ ۗ وَكَانَ رَبُّكَ بَصِيرًا
And the messengers whom We sent before thee were all (men) who ate food and walked through the streets: We have made some of you as a trial for others: will ye have patience? for Allah is One Who sees (all things).
Yep there's no doubt that he's not God
CHAPTER 25 VERSE 7
وَقَالُوا۟ مَالِ هَٰذَا ٱلرَّسُولِ يَأْكُلُ ٱلطَّعَامَ وَيَمْشِى فِى ٱلْأَسْوَاقِ ۙ لَوْلَآ أُنزِلَ إِلَيْهِ مَلَكٌ فَيَكُونَ مَعَهُۥ نَذِيرًا
And they say: "What sort of a messenger is this, who eats food, and walks through the streets? Why has not an angel been sent down to him to give admonition with him?
@@mohammadfatimazahra3006 Uh, I'm not a Christian though? Thanks for sharing.
@@violetsonja5938 you're welcome 😊
CHAPTER 18 VERSE 29
وَقُلِ ٱلْحَقُّ مِن رَّبِّكُمْ ۖ
فَمَن شَآءَ فَلْيُؤْمِن وَمَن شَآءَ فَلْيَكْفُرْ ۚ إِنَّآ أَعْتَدْنَا لِلظَّٰلِمِينَ نَارًا أَحَاطَ بِهِمْ سُرَادِقُهَا ۚ وَإِن يَسْتَغِيثُوا۟ يُغَاثُوا۟ بِمَآءٍ كَٱلْمُهْلِ يَشْوِى ٱلْوُجُوهَ ۚ بِئْسَ ٱلشَّرَابُ وَسَآءَتْ مُرْتَفَقًاSay, "The truth is from your Lord": Let him who will believe, and let him who will, reject (it): for the wrong-doers We have prepared a Fire whose (smoke and flames), like the walls and roof of a tent, will hem them in: if they implore relief they will be granted water like melted brass, that will scald their faces, how dreadful the drink! How uncomfortable a couch to recline on!
CHAPTER 16 VERSE 82
فَإِن تَوَلَّوْا۟ فَإِنَّمَا عَلَيْكَ ٱلْبَلَٰغُ ٱلْمُبِينُ
But if they turn away, thy duty is only to preach the clear Message.
Billy Graham’s statement was not just based on New Testament manuscript evidence. There are significant extra-biblical references to Jesus and the teachings of early Christians. We also should make note of things such as how the Apostles went from depressed and scared followers after the death of Christ, to bold, outspoken teachers of the Gospel, who not only all taught the same message but were all willing to (and most did) die torturous deaths for those things they believed and taught.
Nearly all historians, even the atheistic ones agree the evidence that Jesus was a historical figure is beyond doubt.
Just a minor note: Magdalen College is pronounced approximately "maudlin".
British pronunciation is crazy 😂
How is that supposed to make any sense at all? 😭
Isn't pronunciation silly sometimes? I still can't say Worcestershire. Ha ha.
@@UsefulCharts Guess where the word 'maudlin' comes from?
@@Boxerr54 Worcestershire is easy, for those living in Worcester
A note regarding the reliability of the Old Testament: Although there is little variation between the Dead Sea Scrolls and the Masoretic, it doesn't mean we have the original text. The video was correct in saying its the same text that Jesus had, but not necessarily the same text say Isaiah wrote down. Ancient texts like the OT and NT are most fluid right after they are created and become standardised later. Both the OT and NT show dozens of signs of editing, interpolations, omissions and such. And the septuagint has traces of the fluidity of the text still in the 3rd and 2nd centuries BCE as for ex. Jeremiah and Ezra differ quite a bit from the Masoretic. Sadly, we don't have manuscripts from the most volatile period of these books. If we had, our Bibles would probably look wholly different. So the old fundamentalist trope that the Bible hasn't changed is misleading.
----- > Koine Greek was the universal language in the 1st century. Hebrew was still used in the Temple but most Jews spoke Greek. The Dead Sea Scrolls were written in Aramaic, Hebrew, and Greek.
.... "The number of different compositions represented is almost one thousand, and they are written in three different languages: Hebrew, Aramaic, and Greek.The number of different compositions represented is almost one thousand, and they are written in three different languages: Hebrew, Aramaic, and Greek"
Thank you for doing this video! That silver scroll was just amazing. I'd like to learn more about it. I'd also be interested in other ancient texts too. If you wanted to look at other cultures earliest texts.
I must say, I really love the videos recently about religious topics. I think it is a very natural evolution of this channel's format, some of the best videos on this channel have been in this series.
I once recommended this channel to people by saying: "He mostly used to just do royal family trees and such, but then he decided, 'Hey, speaking of "begetting", let's look at whether or not the Bible is true!'" Obviously the content is much more nuanced, but I did think it was funny, him going from something so innocuous as royal bloodlines to so provocative as _anything_ to do with the historicity of the Bible.
JESUS B PEACE ON HIM WAS POOPING AND PEE WAS EATING SLEEPING LIKE ANY ONE HE USE TO POOP EVERY TIME WHEN NATURE WORKS HE USED TO PEE AND SLEEP IGNORANT ADRESS PEOPLE'S OF NO REASONS.
CHAPTER 18 VERSES 1_5
ٱلْحَمْدُ لِلَّهِ ٱلَّذِىٓ أَنزَلَ عَلَىٰ عَبْدِهِ ٱلْكِتَٰبَ وَلَمْ يَجْعَل لَّهُۥ عِوَجَا ۜ
Praise be to Allah, Who hath sent to His Servant the Book, and hath allowed therein no Crookedness:
قَيِّمًا لِّيُنذِرَ بَأْسًا شَدِيدًا مِّن لَّدُنْهُ وَيُبَشِّرَ ٱلْمُؤْمِنِينَ ٱلَّذِينَ يَعْمَلُونَ ٱلصَّٰلِحَٰتِ أَنَّ لَهُمْ أَجْرًا حَسَنًا
(He hath made it) Straight (and Clear) in order that He may warn (the godless) of a terrible Punishment from Him, and that He may give Glad Tidings to the Believers who work righteous deeds, that they shall have a goodly Reward,
مَّٰكِثِينَ فِيهِ أَبَدًا
Further, that He may warn those (also) who say, "Allah hath begotten a son":
مَّا لَهُم بِهِۦ مِنْ عِلْمٍ وَلَا لِءَابَآئِهِمْ ۚ كَبُرَتْ كَلِمَةً تَخْرُجُ مِنْ أَفْوَٰهِهِمْ ۚ إِن يَقُولُونَ إِلَّا كَذِبًا
No knowledge have they of such a thing, nor had their fathers. It is a grievous thing that issues from their mouths as a saying what they say is nothing but falsehood!OK this are verses from your fabricated Bible:
Matthew 27:46
New International Version
46 About three in the afternoon Jesus cried out in a loud voice, “Eli, Eli,[a] lema sabachthani?” (which means “My God, my God, why have you forsaken me?”).[b](A)
Mark 11:12-25
New International Version
Jesus Curses a Fig Tree and Clears the Temple Courts(A)(B)(C)
12 The next day as they were leaving Bethany, Jesus was hungry. 13 Seeing in the distance a fig tree in leaf, he went to find out if it had any fruit. When he reached it, he found nothing but leaves, because it was not the season for figs.(D) 14 Then he said to the tree, “May no one ever eat fruit from you again.” And his disciples heard him say it.
A hungry God doesn't know about the Fig when it comes.
On reaching Jerusalem, Jesus entered the temple courts and began driving out those who were buying and selling there. He overturned the tables of the money changers and the benches of those selling doves, 16 and would not allow anyone to carry merchandise through the temple courts. 17 And as he taught them, he said, “Is it not written: ‘My house will be called a house of prayer for all nations’[a]?(E) But you have made it ‘a den of robbers.’[b]”(F)
18 The chief priests and the teachers of the law heard this and began looking for a way to kill him, for they feared him,(G) because the whole crowd was amazed at his teaching.(H)
19 When evening came, Jesus and his disciples[c] went out of the city.(I)
20 In the morning, as they went along, they saw the fig tree withered from the roots. 21 Peter remembered and said to Jesus, “Rabbi,(J) look! The fig tree you cursed has withered!”
22 “Have faith in God,” Jesus answered.
You doesn't understand you're Bible you're telling jokes.
A God crying to a god ? A God Cursed a tree because he didn't know about the Fig a God was walking in streets and buying things and shoping for food then teatch thing they did want to kill God this are you're logic
CHAPTER 25 VERSE 20
وَمَآ أَرْسَلْنَا قَبْلَكَ مِنَ ٱلْمُرْسَلِينَ إِلَّآ إِنَّهُمْ لَيَأْكُلُونَ ٱلطَّعَامَ وَيَمْشُونَ فِى ٱلْأَسْوَاقِ ۗ وَجَعَلْنَا بَعْضَكُمْ لِبَعْضٍ فِتْنَةً أَتَصْبِرُونَ ۗ وَكَانَ رَبُّكَ بَصِيرًا
And the messengers whom We sent before thee were all (men) who ate food and walked through the streets: We have made some of you as a trial for others: will ye have patience? for Allah is One Who sees (all things).
Yep there's no doubt that he's not God
CHAPTER 25 VERSE 7
وَقَالُوا۟ مَالِ هَٰذَا ٱلرَّسُولِ يَأْكُلُ ٱلطَّعَامَ وَيَمْشِى فِى ٱلْأَسْوَاقِ ۙ لَوْلَآ أُنزِلَ إِلَيْهِ مَلَكٌ فَيَكُونَ مَعَهُۥ نَذِيرًا
And they say: "What sort of a messenger is this, who eats food, and walks through the streets? Why has not an angel been sent down to him to give admonition with him?
I love that I can rely on your videos for historically accurate accounts of religious documents.
Matt, just wanted to say I got your signed Carolingian poster. It looks great and thanks for issuing such a cool piece!
Wow, I had never heard that Billy Graham quote before and my first thought was that it was bunk. I’ve been a Christian my whole life and never would have thought such a thing.
I grew up on that quote. I actually paused the video so I could post it on my FB right then and there because it was gospel to my life as a teenager and the source of many of the elitist snobby attitudes we were encouraged to have. I love seeing it debunked so thoroughly. Billy wasn't a bad man, but ugh some of these things make you wonder.
It is not really bunk. If you select a chart and say that is the basis of his statement and the chart is misleading, then that doesn't prove that he used the chart, only used the chart or just said it off the cuff. It might have been a better analogy for Socrates, but it still holds water
Having apostolic text claiming 1st witness testimony and epistles of 1st generation churches appearing in found print only 100 years after the ministry and only 180 years post ministry, 150 years post apostles to have a complete manuscript found of all of it and the LXX, along with Jewish-Roman scholars mentioning the ministry with a century of crucifixion is much more compelling...
than to have dozens of Julius Caesars own historic literature, "written by him" but earliest dated 850 years after his death....so there is no comparative proof he wrote it or a series of scholars got together at some point before 800AD to craft a tale written by a General and Emperor in 55BC.
His argument kind of contradicts itself, working backward from what he chooses to believe.
That is a problem with self edited vanity press that You Tube is. He can say anything.
However like the author here, both are very well established figures in history. One might expect much more writings of the first modern emperor of Rome and much quicker than one might find of a religious leader considered blasphemous in Judea that was conquered and burned with the population dispersed violently just 47 years after the ministry.
@@STho205 There is zero - Z E R O evidence that Jesus rose from the dead. Because miracles by nature have no proof. So yes, Billy Graham was 100% wrong. And he definitely used that graphic in his teachings. I say this as a former devotee of him.
@@blueashke possibly.
However is their any historical evidence that you would accept for ressurection of the dead. Eyewitness accounts, TV or film footage or photographs of say George Washington, Elvis or Madeline Allbright today in front of a dated newspaper...even seeing them from a distance or close up in a town square or stadium?
@@STho205 Resurrection of the dead is a matter of faith. So no, unless it was a person I personally knew had died and I witnessed them alive again, I would not take 'evidence'. The argument here was that there was proof of it. There isn't, never has been, never could be.
Can we have a general religious chart/video as they developed over time? Would be cool to see religions other then the big 3 and have a general timeline
Hi Matt, nice video as always. As Purim approaches could you make a video about the book of Esther, Its origins and the story behind the controversy between the scholars on whether it should be included in the bible. (And is there a chance you would make a video about גניזת קהיר - "Cairo Geniza")?
It is in my Old Testament Bible, the book of Ester (Hadasa) not sure of spelling, but she was used to save her people from slaughter. I saw a movie a few years back that took creative license and produced One Night with the King portrayal of Ester, I enjoyed it, they stayed basically true to the writings, great movie.
@@lorebay2593 It is part of the Biblical cannon in rabbinic judaism, there was a debate recorded in the gemara(oral law) where the legitimacy of the story is debated
What is the Cairo Geniza? I live in Cairo and never heard about it
@@manetho5134 In judaism, there is a practice in regards to holy books/paper where you place it all in a "Geniza" and the proceed to bury it befitting of its status instead of just throwing it out. Sometime ago, they found one of these collection in the basement of a synagogue in cairo. In it was a lot of historical artifacts that shed some light on jewish practice from hundreds of years ago
@@nachocheese2823 ah so they like don't want to desecrate the holy text so they bury it? In Islam we have kinda of a similar thing, when we want to throw out an old Quran or a paper that has Quran text written on it, we either burn it or shred it into very small pieces
I’d love to get a video on the Shapira Scroll. Originally denounced as a forgery, it seems to be seeing renewed interest among scholars. And if it’s authentic would be the earliest known biblical manuscript by a long shot.
There's no way to truly authenticate it because we don't have it, but Dershowitz has me convinced it's legit.
@@wyattsteel411 Liars can claim anything, and fools can believe anything on 'faith', right? *SUCKER* - “a person who believes everything they are told and is therefore easy to deceive” - Cambridge Dictionary
May the grace of the Lord surround you as you watch this video. May His love fill your heart, and His wisdom guide your path.
It would be great if you could do a video on the Nag Hammadi library and discuss how these writings relate to early Christianity and gnosticism.
It'd be great to see a similar video about all the non-canonical gospels & apocalypses (etc.) which are extant and were widely read even though they weren't included in the Canon. Works such as the Gospel of Nicodemus, the Acts of Peter, the Infancy narratives.
You missed out the Syriac Sinatica gospels, written in Syriac-Aramaic in the 4th or 5th century.
They are known as the Edessan gospels, because the Aramaic is Edessene.
You also missed out the Josephus Flavius Old Testament, known as Antiquities.
Josephus says he took this information from the Torah scroll in the Temple in AD 70, which dated from some 600 BC.
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Once again you give a very good, succinct and informative video without bias. Well done. One thing I might add is that one reason why we might not have very many early versions of the Bible is because the Romans likely went around destroying texts whenever they discovered them between the time of Nero and Constantine (superstition is such a wonderful thing). That, and the impermanent nature of papyrus and paper go a long way to explaining why many ancient texts were lost (the dry climate of Egypt explains why so many early texts from that region survive).
I've studied the history of that time and have never heard this. All the writings of the time indicate that Christianity was not considered very important - certainly not enough to track down their manuscripts. At Constantine's death about 12% of the empire was Christian.
Many texts were denounced and some destroyed in rivalries among the dozens of competing Christianities (or heresies according to Orthodoxy) that continued until only one view was allowed. Marcion used nothing but a version of Luke, some used only Gospel, declaring the others false, etc
@@smb123211 Well, it is only logical. After all, if you are persecuting a people you would also destroy their texts. If you are arresting someone for being a Christian, it is hardly that much of an extra step to arrest their family and relatives to see if they are Christian, and raid their houses for proof. Happens all the time nowadays, so why not back then? People haven't really changed over the centuries, and so will have the same modus operandi when persecuting people. And indeed, we have the whole Donatist controversy that arose in the early 300s because some people handed texts over to the authorities while others did not.
One should also remember that Hadrian tried to erase Judaism from the Middle East, going so far as to cut down the olive grove at Gethsemane. Other emperors were just as zealous in their persecutions. Their approach would have been like that of the Nazis, persecute and kill the adherents, then burn their writings.
Not to mention the many wars throughout the history of the Middle East, sometimes resulting in entire towns and cities being burned to the ground.
@@nicholasconder4703 It didn't happen back for two reasons - 1) Christians were a tiny minority and 2) Rome didn't care what god you worshipped - one reason for the longevity of their empire. What changed was the idea of a divine human - emperor, Jewish rabbi - something Jews rejected as blasphemous.
This was a phenomenally useful video. I wish this had been available back when I was researching all this stuff myself. 🖖
Love it. Excellent work. In defence of Billy Graham, he never specified that 5000 manuscripts were from the time of Jesus Christ. There is also a good chunk of secondary references to the Gospels from The Letter to Diognetus, for example. Don't forget graffiti from Pompeii regarding Christians, which date the presence of Christians in Pompeii before the volcanic eruption! Add to this the intriguing presence of type AB+ blood on the Shroud of Turin, the Suderion of Oviedo and the Holy Tunic of Argenteuil, which also shares identical pollen with the Shroud of Turin. These are all fascinating rabbit holes grad students can lose themselves in and, well, nothing like this exists for any ancient figure, Caesar, author, philosopher or other. There is a signiture of Cleopatra, but she was not on the list.
You are awesome! I already have 8 of your posters. I love this series on the Bible.
Thank you, this information is very helpful!
Wow, thanks . . . This series of Bible When, How, Who, Where's has turned the lights on in my head ! Especially your introduction to DATING the texts.
I spent some time flipping through the dead seas scrolls translation website. And I have to say, this makes me think that scribes took their work incredibly seriously. Errors were not permitted in their manuscripts. One thing I've come to realize while studying history is how little the human experience has changed. And part of that is the rigorous expectations we have for our duties. In any trade, long, grueling apprenticeships were pretty common throughout history. Learning to perform a task to the highest degree being important in many cultures as well. So it would not surprise me in the slightest if the scribe masters reviewed every copy they left their studio(?) against the original for accuracy, making corrections as needed, or even requiring the entire page to be redone.
I also wouldn't be surprised if the oral tradition held quite strongly as well. With apprentices being required to recite, verbatim, the stories they were taught, and could not become a "journeyman" storyteller until they could do it X amount of times without mistake. Of course, that's not to say that errors wouldn't enter as people aged. But I think the general public at least thinks that oral tradition would have radically changed a story over just a few short years, as the storytellers took liberties with the details. But, I wouldn't be surprised if that was actually quite rare. And that it was more simple errors.
While modern life and ancient life are quite different in terms of our world-views, I think I have a helpful comparison. I do some amateur theater, and part of how I make it interesting for me is to memorize parts *exactly* with no errors or additions from the written script. I do this with quite large roles that have me on stage for nearly the entire play, handling probably close to half the total lines in a show (in fact, the smaller roles are the ones I care less about exactness! ha! doesn't cause as much chaos if the minor role drops a line). Anyways, the point is that the errors I find myself making are not complete fabrications or intentional changes, but little things like using the same word in two spots where it's supposed to be the same, such as "Listen here" and "Look here" or "quite sure" and "yes" or "anyways" versus "anyway" ... and so on. Things that don't change the meaning, but aren't exact either.
Unfortunately, the evidence shows otherwise. Dr. Gerd Ludemann, New Testament scholar at the University of Göttingen: "Demonstrating the degree of authorial invention uncovers the considerable amount of forgery to be found in the texts of the New Testament, and thus undermines the almost unlimited authority that is commonly accorded them. In doing gospel studies we should always be suspicious, remembering that the text in front of us has gone through the hands of 'Christian authors' who, supposedly inspired by the Holy Spirit, edited and falsified large parts of the four gospels." What Jesus Didn’t Say
Dr. David Brakke, Professor in the History of Christianity, Ohio State University, wrote an article in the Journal of Religion entitled, “Early Christian Lies and the Lying Liars Who Wrote Them”, which reflects the consensus view that the anonymous early Christian scribes who wrote all of your references were blatant liars, forgers and frauds: “Of the twenty-seven writings that make up the Christian New Testament, *at least ten are almost certainly forgeries* , that is, writings whose authors falsely claim to be someone else. They are six of the letters that purport to be from Paul…plus the letters attributed to James, Peter (two), and Jude. This number climbs to thirteen if one includes the Acts of the Apostles, whose author falsely presents himself as a companion to Paul on his sea voyage to Rome (27:1, etc.); 1 John, whose author misleadingly claims to have been an eyewitness to the life of Jesus (1:1-3); and Hebrews, which may not bear the name of Paul but whose author drops hints that he is in fact that apostle (13:23-24). These forgeries claim attention in part because they are now sacred scripture to Christians, but they are only the large tip of a vast iceberg of early Christian forgery…Such *literary deceit* was not uncommon in the ancient Mediterranean world, but Christians seem to have embraced the practice with special enthusiasm.” - Early Christian Lies and the Lying Liars Who Wrote Them, The Journal of Religion, Volume 96, Number 3
@@mythbuster1483 why did you reply with this. This has absolutely nothing to do with what I was talking about: the accuracy of manual transcription
@@IanZainea1990 It has everything to do with it. You have no evidence that the earliest complete manuscripts of the gospel tales---which date hundreds of years after the supposed events---bear any resemblance to the content in lost originals that we DON'T have. But we DO have lots of evidence that the anonymous, biased scribes who wrote all your references were proven liars, forgers and frauds. For instance, just compare the empty tomb stories in Mark and Matthew. What did the women allegedly see at the tomb in the Gospel of Mark? "They were saying to each other, Who’s going to roll the stone away from the entrance for us? When they looked up, they saw that the STONE HAD BEEN ROLLED AWAY...Going INTO THE TOMB , they saw a YOUNG MAN in a white robe seated on the right side; and they were startled. But he said to them, Don’t be alarmed! You are looking for Jesus of Nazareth, who was crucified. He has been raised. He isn’t here" (Mark 16:3-6).
Compare this with the same story in the Gospel of Matthew, when the women arrive at a SEALED TOMB that was GUARDED BY SOLDIERS! "There was a violent earthquake, for AN ANGEL of the Lord CAME DOWN FROM HEAVEN and, going to the tomb, ROLLED BACK THE STONE AND SAT ON IT. His appearance was like lightning, and his clothes were white as snow. The guards were so afraid of him that they shook and became like dead men. The angel said to the women, Do not be afraid, for I know that you are looking for Jesus, who was crucified. He is not here; he has risen" (Matt. 28:2-6). LOL! Wow---how did Mark get his story so wrong? Now we have an earthquake, Roman guards and instead of the women finding an OPEN TOMB and speaking with a YOUNG MAN INSIDE it, the tomb is SEALED when they arrive and they watch an ANGEL COME DOWN FROM HEAVEN WITH LIGHTING as he pops the freshness seal on the tomb (proving that no one could’ve stolen the body!) and sits on top of the massive stone and talks to the women OUTSIDE THE TOMB!!! LOL! That's a completely different story! If the story in Matthew is true, the story told by Mark is false, and vice versa. The bible disproves itself. And if the author of Matthew was so willing to lie and twist a story he plagiarized, why should I trust anything in his book? The author of Matthew must’ve thought Christians were complete morons. Oh…right.
@@IanZainea1990 Dr. Bart Ehrman, Distinguished Professor of Religious Studies at the University of North Carolina: "At least 11 of the 27 New Testament books are forgeries...Many of the New Testament’s forgeries were manufactured by early Christian leaders trying to settle theological feuds...only about half of the New Testament letters attributed to Paul - 7 of 13 - were actually written by him. Paul's remaining books are forgeries...there were about 100 forgeries created in the name of Jesus’ inner-circle during the first four centuries of the church." - Half of New Testament forged, Bible scholar says, CNN
Would love to see a similar video for manuscripts of the Quran!
It's coming.
Most were burnt, and what we have now, was disputed at the time of burning the different books. It’s just a mess.. Apparently there are many holes in the standard narrative (according to Islamic Scholars)..
Meanwhile see my video responding to sh uthman vs david wood if u want 😁
@@googleuser3620 lol, thats not what happened. The fragments and copies which were burned were burned to protect the authenticity of the original copy from Abu Bakr Ra. up to Uthman's Ra. copy. And the Quraishi dialect was produced at the same time (from the original mushaf kept with Hafsa Ra)
@@UsefulCharts And I'd love to see a similar video about even older manuscripts, such as the Hindu Vedas
I am teaching History and Epistemology of Chemistry, at UNILA. I'm gonna use some of your videos to analise how the past events are described, well my students will do it. In fact, some you work are related to alchemy, 'cause ancient Egipt, Greek, Islam and Christianism are involved in the development of chemistry. Great work. Parabéns!
Another fantastically informative video. These are as good as it gets. So interesting and well presented.
Would love to see a video on the apocryphal texts.
Finally a video with a flat tongue that does not sound like chewing gum and without silly, annoying music. Thumb up
A marvelous video! Your thorough, steady approach to research and evidence always remind me why I love this channel so much. I really enjoyed your breakdown of manuscripts at the end of the video. It was a step above what I expected when I clicked the video, and I think it's a very useful analysis of how historians actually approach the written word.
You know, I'm Lutheran and I still hear the Priestly Blessing whenever a sermon is about to end. So knowing that it dates so far back (it's closer to the building of the Great Pyramids, than Cleopatra VII is to the modern day!) is pretty cool.
I thought the same thing, being a former Lutheran.
Raised Presbyterian and went to a Lutheran school. The second I saw those words, the music for the blessing started coming out of my mouth unprompted.
I don't understand are there are Priests which are not Jewish?In Jewish tradition here in Israel only Priests are allowed to say the prayer.
@@yakov95000 The entirety of the Jewish Bible is also part of the Catholic and Protestant Bibles. 'Priest' is a term in many faith practices. Honestly, it was sung as a blessing by my entire school in chapel as well.
@@blueashke Yea you right it was my bad I just realized you call your people priests and it has totally different meaning then what I had in my head,in Jewish understanding it is called Birkaat HaCohanim(The greeting/Blessing of Cohanim/Priests),Cohen is a family lineage and status that only people who are sons of those Cohenim could say this(Cohanim come from Aaron,Moses brother),still it's pretty cool things I connect so so much with Judaism and Israeliness is also part other people tradition.
This video did a great job explaining why the Dead Sea Scrolls are so important. I got to see them in an exhibit once but didn’t appreciate it at the time. I wonder if there are still any undiscovered scrolls or manuscripts out there of the Old or New Testament 🤔
Matt Baker ... another excellent job (along with the early images of Jesus video) of keeping straight a myriad of facts with details and then weaving it all together to clearly convey the material to others. Despite how clear you do it, I have stop and repeat parts of these videos to take it all in. I can only imagine what a task you have in deciding what to leave in and what to leave out to stay focused and relevant to the story you're telling.
Abrahamic religions have such interesting history, I love learning about the more occult-ish/spiritual practices that came from the same places the "big three" did
Check out supernatural from Dr. Michael heisner if you like the spiritual side
PLEASE do a deep dive on more of these!
I always love your Bible videos; keep them coming!
FANTASIC! I always had difficulty pointing out when different manuscripts were written. Thanks for clearing up the Time line. Will you do a Family Tree for where the King James Translation Comes from? Or even a Christian Denomination Family tree? Perhaps starting with Canaanite Religions, going into the cult of YHW and early Judaism till you get to our modern Great awakenings and such......but let me not tell you how to do your job. Great stuff!
A denominations tree is in the works.
I can't wait! Blessings, my dude!
@@UsefulCharts Also can't wait. I grew up Pentecostal/Charismatic and just that branch could be a whole episode lol.
Go look up the noahide laws
The word Christian means that you are a a Christman..you can't be a Christian without having Christ in your heart, mind and soul and You in him.
You just need to know simple math, here is couple examples :
How long did he rule over Jerusalem? (a) Three months (2 Kings 24:8). (b) Three months and ten days (2 Chronicles 36:9).
How old was Jehoiachin when he became king of Jerusalem? (a) Eighteen (2 Kings 24:8). (b) Eight (2 Chronicles 36:9).
The chief of the mighty men of David lifted up his spear and killed how many men at one time? (a) Eight hundred (2 Samuel 23:8). (b) Three hundred (1 Chronicles 11:11).
Thank you for this knowledge!
I went to a private Christian highschool and was taught that the dead sea scrolls had complete copies of the gospels lol. It wasn't until I took biblical Greek in college that I learned that the oldest fragments of the gospels are incomplete. Also some parts were almost certainly added later like Mark chapter 16 is not in Codex Vaticanus or any older fragments of Mark.
From an agnostic: Thank you for your post. I learned something new. But a quick and shallow dive suggests that it is a bit more complex. Here is a view copied from a web site:
“Mark 16:9-20 has been called a later addition to the Gospel of Mark by most New Testament scholars in the past century. The main reason for doubting the authenticity of the ending is that it does not appear in some of the oldest existing witnesses, and it is reported to be absent from many others in ancient times by early writers of the Church. Moreover, the ending has some stylistic features which also suggest that it came from another hand.
The Gospel is obviously incomplete without these verses, and so most scholars believe that the final leaf of the original manuscript was lost, and that the ending which appears in English versions today (verses 9-20) was supplied during the second century. Below are some excerpts from various scholarly sources that conclude that the verses are a later addition.
Nevertheless, some scholars have not been impressed with the evidence against these verses, and have maintained that they are original. These scholars have pointed out that the witnesses which bring the verses into question are few, and that the verses are quoted by church Fathers very early, even in the second century. To represent this point of view we give below a long excerpt from F.H.A. Scrivener, together with its footnotes.”
But, that being said, Thanks for adding to my journey.
@@miguelservetus9534 and thank you for adding that. I'm no expert 😂, and it's been a while since college.
Excellent, you just made this video as well. Well done.
Origen wrote his 'hexapla', collecting the various translations of the old testament in his time (sometime before the 240's). He did a detailed comparison of various Greek translations to the Hebrew texts he had avaiable, sadly it was lost (like much of Origens work)
Origen (185 - 254 CE), Title of Chapter 4: "Scripture Contains Many Contradictions, and Many Statements Which are Not Literally True, But Must Be Read Spiritually and Mystically." (Origen, Commentary on the Gospel of John, Book 10, Chapter 4)
Thank you so much! Walter veith has a Bible chronos too. Yours was awesome. consider like Paul splintered religions/sects of denominations of churches, how many versions are available today niv, standard, catholic, etc, pretty much write whatever nowadays. How about chart of pictographs in caves all over realm, in chronos, there’s a chart! starting at the Picts, I would imagine... maybe gobekli tepe? thank you for your consideration if only I found you before I covered my wall in charts already, ohh! The elements chart goes to 160, only elements 120 printed and placed out of order! Why? Good question. That’s the histery of chronos. Thank you
Honorable mentions:
-The Sassoon Codex
Dr. Miles Jones findings:
-The Catalonian Hebrew gospels
-The Cochin Hebrew gospels
hey, massive fan! When are you releasing your Egyptian Pharaoh family tree?
Family pole*
Family wreath*
Thanks for another great video! Your take on religion is much needed, I've learnt so much! Just noticed a small error today. In the subtitles at 9:43 it says BCE instead of CE. I always watch with subtitles so i don't miss anything you say, thanks for including them!
Good catch. I was about to comment with the same correction but thought to check prior comments, as I'm confident I wasn't the only one that saw the mistake. Love these videos.
I love your videos and especially your way of presenting the facts without any prejudice or agenda. thank you so much.
As always a great and highly educational video. Thank you for your work.
LOVE these timelines videos- ESPECIALLY the ones on events, artifacts, etc…. Keep them coming! Good work!! 💯💯🙏
You’ve actually missed the point in your discussion of the timeframe between documents and have overlooked the nature of critical and textual scholarship going back to the enlightenment when scholars began to say that there was no historicity to the Bible, that Jesus didn’t exist, and there was little accuracy in the words of the Bible. The point is that sooner than any other text or sources we have from the ancient world, the books of the NT WERE NOT FAR REMOVED FROM THE ACTUAL EVENTS THAT TOOK PLACE. the point is that we consider Suetonius and other writers to be historically reliable for works that were written hundreds of years after their death, but the NT had been unduly marginalized and held to a different standard for many years. Moreover, there are creeds within the Bible (1Corinthians 15) that scholars agree was early christology and often date it to as early as a few years after Jesus’ death. The point here is that the books of the Bible in general and NT in particular are dated within years of the events. Otherwise, great video
Excellent content! Thank you for putting it together!
Wonderfully geeky, yet easily understood by reasonably bright lay person. Thank you so much.
JESUS B PEACE ON HIM WAS POOPING AND PEE WAS EATING SLEEPING LIKE ANY ONE HE USE TO POOP EVERY TIME WHEN NATURE WORKS HE USED TO PEE AND SLEEP IGNORANT ADRESS PEOPLE'S OF NO REASONS.
CHAPTER 18 VERSES 1_5
ٱلْحَمْدُ لِلَّهِ ٱلَّذِىٓ أَنزَلَ عَلَىٰ عَبْدِهِ ٱلْكِتَٰبَ وَلَمْ يَجْعَل لَّهُۥ عِوَجَا ۜ
Praise be to Allah, Who hath sent to His Servant the Book, and hath allowed therein no Crookedness:
قَيِّمًا لِّيُنذِرَ بَأْسًا شَدِيدًا مِّن لَّدُنْهُ وَيُبَشِّرَ ٱلْمُؤْمِنِينَ ٱلَّذِينَ يَعْمَلُونَ ٱلصَّٰلِحَٰتِ أَنَّ لَهُمْ أَجْرًا حَسَنًا
(He hath made it) Straight (and Clear) in order that He may warn (the godless) of a terrible Punishment from Him, and that He may give Glad Tidings to the Believers who work righteous deeds, that they shall have a goodly Reward,
مَّٰكِثِينَ فِيهِ أَبَدًا
Further, that He may warn those (also) who say, "Allah hath begotten a son":
مَّا لَهُم بِهِۦ مِنْ عِلْمٍ وَلَا لِءَابَآئِهِمْ ۚ كَبُرَتْ كَلِمَةً تَخْرُجُ مِنْ أَفْوَٰهِهِمْ ۚ إِن يَقُولُونَ إِلَّا كَذِبًا
No knowledge have they of such a thing, nor had their fathers. It is a grievous thing that issues from their mouths as a saying what they say is nothing but falsehood!OK this are verses from your fabricated Bible:
Matthew 27:46
New International Version
46 About three in the afternoon Jesus cried out in a loud voice, “Eli, Eli,[a] lema sabachthani?” (which means “My God, my God, why have you forsaken me?”).[b](A)
Mark 11:12-25
New International Version
Jesus Curses a Fig Tree and Clears the Temple Courts(A)(B)(C)
12 The next day as they were leaving Bethany, Jesus was hungry. 13 Seeing in the distance a fig tree in leaf, he went to find out if it had any fruit. When he reached it, he found nothing but leaves, because it was not the season for figs.(D) 14 Then he said to the tree, “May no one ever eat fruit from you again.” And his disciples heard him say it.
A hungry God doesn't know about the Fig when it comes.
On reaching Jerusalem, Jesus entered the temple courts and began driving out those who were buying and selling there. He overturned the tables of the money changers and the benches of those selling doves, 16 and would not allow anyone to carry merchandise through the temple courts. 17 And as he taught them, he said, “Is it not written: ‘My house will be called a house of prayer for all nations’[a]?(E) But you have made it ‘a den of robbers.’[b]”(F)
18 The chief priests and the teachers of the law heard this and began looking for a way to kill him, for they feared him,(G) because the whole crowd was amazed at his teaching.(H)
19 When evening came, Jesus and his disciples[c] went out of the city.(I)
20 In the morning, as they went along, they saw the fig tree withered from the roots. 21 Peter remembered and said to Jesus, “Rabbi,(J) look! The fig tree you cursed has withered!”
22 “Have faith in God,” Jesus answered.
You doesn't understand you're Bible you're telling jokes.
A God crying to a god ? A God Cursed a tree because he didn't know about the Fig a God was walking in streets and buying things and shoping for food then teatch thing they did want to kill God this are you're logic
CHAPTER 25 VERSE 20
وَمَآ أَرْسَلْنَا قَبْلَكَ مِنَ ٱلْمُرْسَلِينَ إِلَّآ إِنَّهُمْ لَيَأْكُلُونَ ٱلطَّعَامَ وَيَمْشُونَ فِى ٱلْأَسْوَاقِ ۗ وَجَعَلْنَا بَعْضَكُمْ لِبَعْضٍ فِتْنَةً أَتَصْبِرُونَ ۗ وَكَانَ رَبُّكَ بَصِيرًا
And the messengers whom We sent before thee were all (men) who ate food and walked through the streets: We have made some of you as a trial for others: will ye have patience? for Allah is One Who sees (all things).
Yep there's no doubt that he's not God
CHAPTER 25 VERSE 7
وَقَالُوا۟ مَالِ هَٰذَا ٱلرَّسُولِ يَأْكُلُ ٱلطَّعَامَ وَيَمْشِى فِى ٱلْأَسْوَاقِ ۙ لَوْلَآ أُنزِلَ إِلَيْهِ مَلَكٌ فَيَكُونَ مَعَهُۥ نَذِيرًا
And they say: "What sort of a messenger is this, who eats food, and walks through the streets? Why has not an angel been sent down to him to give admonition with him?
I would hesitate to call fragments a manuscript, they are merely pieces of one. I got a chance to see part of the Dead Sea Scrolls when they were on exhibit in Denver several years ago. If you get a chance to see them, I recommend it, we had to wait in line, but it was well worth it.
As an Egyptian it breaks my heart that non of the manuscripts found in Egypt is in display in Egypt
AFAIK _some_ of them are, it just doesn't happen to include any of the specific examples in the video. Wikipedia says that Oxyrhynchus p15, a 3rd century fragment of Corinthians 1, is in fact displayed in Cairo, Egypt.
Overall I suspect that there's not been much interest in returning those manuscripts to Egypt because Egypt is (currently) not a Christian country. I'm not confident that this is the _main_ reason, though.
@@january1may There must be some Coptic ones - presumably Ethopia is not too far from Egypt
The Muslims destroyed most of the Alexandrian manuscripts. They are good at destroying anything that disagrees with them.
Bro It woukd be destoryed in Egypt by Muslims
@@jenex5608 I think Islam respects the Bible as having the word of prophets of god. (generally)
Notice how he only says that the new testament portrayal of Jesus isn't necessarily well preserved but doesn't say anything the old testament accuracy or portrayal of Isiah per example.
Non-Christians are mostly hostile to Christianity than any other religion bizarrely even tho it's it's morals are better than any other religion.
These people don't car about what's good or bad as long as they attack Christ.
Dr. Gerd Ludemann, Chair of History and Literature of Early Christianity at the University of Göttingen: "the results of historical scholarship can be made known to the public - especially to believers - only with difficulty. Many Christians feel threatened if they hear that MOST of what was written in the Bible is (in historical terms) UNTRUE and that none of the four New Testament Gospels was written by the author listed at the top of the text." - Kêrygma and History in the Thought of Rudolf Bultmann
As a Christian, I agree with your opinions on the Billy Graham quote and the chart. Idk why people think that the 5856 number is so impressive considering, like you said, the number of those written after 500 years past Jesus' death
Edit: Caesar 100% existed
It is impressive compared to other classical manuscripts believed to contain authentic information yet were written much later compared to the books of the Bible and they have much less manuscripts.
@@jiddec It's impressive, but it has nothing at all to do with the veracity of the contents. You also have to take into account that various Christian regimes from the reign of Constantine onward ordered the destruction of "pagan" texts, so Christianity may in fact be the *reason* why we don't have as many manuscripts of other texts. The final destruction of the Library of Alexandria was *by* Christians.
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Does it imply you don't believe in any ancient history?
@@jiddec Quite the contrary. I mean that I'm aware that it's possible for there to be only one record of the actual truth and thousands of records of a lie. And that one should be cautious about any organization that injects ideology into the recording and preservation of truth. Christians killed Hypatia, a neoplatonist mathematician at the Library of Alexandria. It wasn't about whether or not her mathematics were correct, it was simply because they associated her with beliefs that they didn't agree with. She was a *math* professor; nothing she taught should have been considered a threat by Christians, but they did. Therefore I will not discount the possibility of something being true simply because there is only there are only a few copies left of it. The Elements of Euclid, a foundational work specifically of geometry but really of all mathematics in general. It was considered lost to Europe for a thousand years. Fortunately, the Crusades brought it back into Europe from the East where it had been preserved. But then when Napoleon invaded the Vatican, he found an ancient manuscript in their library! They had a copy the whole time! This is geometry, a matter of "parallel lines do not intersect", this is a matter of "the shortest distance between two points is a straight line". The Vatican *hid* this information for a thousand years and WHY? Because it was truth that came from non-Christians.
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It is also possible that those thousands of records are actually true contextually that's why historians could use the Bible to establish historical facts.
You probably read the story you shared from copy of copy of copy of copy because you weren't born when it happened yet you believe it to be true why do you people change the rules and introduce exception to the Bible just because you're not Christians?
Also, the fact that that someone claims to be a Christian doesn't imply he or she truly is. Killing people has no place in Christianity, Jesus Christ didn't kill anybody those who killed in the name of Christianity either did it out of ignorance or hid behind religion to do it for their own gains. Neither Jesus Christ nor his apostles killed anybody rather they were killed for their faith.
Never thought of tracing the parts of the Bible like this. It's fantastic. It reminded me of how I always wanted to see a timeline of Nordic religion specifically regarding Odin/ Woden. From the little I've gathered the figure is much older than commonly associated "viking" era.
Great video.. A video about how these manuscripts differ from each other in terms of content can be very knowledgeable.
Great video!
I would like to clarify that I believe what Dr.Graham was referring too was not necessarily that amount of manuscripts of the New Testament, but rather historical mentions of Jesus compared to Julius C. Is quite staggering.
There are more historians from Jesus relative time frame that mention Jesus of Nazareth in one capacity or another. Where as there are less historians from Julius C relative time frame that mention Julius C in one capacity or another; which is a very interesting development seeing that both lived in the same relative time. In fact there are some “non-biblical” books that were shown here that do mention Jesus but, all the same, do not mention Julius C.
Not calling you wrong in your mentions of manuscripts; just saying I think that Dr.Graham was referring to different sources rather than any particular group of manuscripts.
Cesear though had a number of citiations carved in stone - or mentioned in smaller texts such as those found in London / Hadrians Wall, and fitted into a continum of Roman Emperors. What it shows overall that the number of writers that actually would go out of their way to document any figure from History was fairly small, and even less of their work survives. If we mean that the 4 gospel writers, Paul , Peter , James and other NT writers make reference to Jesus to a greater extent than other writers might reference Ceaser. Additionally though Ceasar on the Coinage would claim the title Son of God (Son of The Gods) ranking equality of him as a man with that of the gods Rome adopted. This is highly contrasts to the NT writers taking Jesus as Son Of God (and also those NT writers that emphases in the writing that Jesus is Son of Man ( riding a donkey, rather than a conqueror on a Horse) Very much placing Jesus outside the contemporary norms of both Rabbinical and Secular Society
You claimed, 'There are more historians from Jesus relative time frame that mention Jesus of Nazareth in one capacity or another." Your cult has lied to you. Prove it. Dr. Bart Ehrman: “To begin with, there is no hard, physical evidence for Jesus (eighteen hundred years before photography was invented), including no archaeological evidence of any kind…We also do not have any writings from Jesus.…no Greek or Roman author from the first century mentions Jesus…we do not have a single reference to Jesus by anyone - pagan, Jew, or Christian - who was a contemporary eyewitness, who recorded things he said and did. But what about the Gospels of the New Testament? Aren’t they eyewitness reports? Even though that was once widely believed about two of our Gospels, Matthew and John, it is not the view of the vast majority of critical historians today, and for good reason…In fact, we do not have any eyewitness report of any kind about Jesus, written in his own day.” - Did Jesus Exist?
@Pierce Knapp Your only reference about the fairy tale Jesus of the gospels that Christians claim is from the 1st century is found in a Christian manuscript of Josephus (who wasn't even born when Jesus was supposedly alive), and it's a proven forgery by the anonymous, biased liars who wrote all of your earliest manuscripts. Dr. Nicholas Peter Legh Allen, professor of theology at North-West University, a world-renowned expert on Josephus, says: “early Christian apologists felt a desperate need to manufacture such fabrications…They were at a loss to find any genuine extra-biblical / scriptural / historical references to convince their religious opponents that their assumed religious founder had even existed” - Christian Forgery in Jewish Antiquities: Josephus Interrupted, 2020.
@@mythbuster1483 NO!
@@comparedtowhat2719 Voltaire: “It is difficult to free fools from the chains they revere.”
“A fool will believe anything” (Prov. 14:15, Good News Translation).
you are infinitely fascinating, usefulcharts.
Interesting video, yet I think an important scripture is missing.
In 1963 Swiss "Billy" Meier found an important scripture in Israel in the tomb where Jmmanuel (= Jesus) laid for three days. Written by one of his followers Judas Iscarioth who was NOT the betrayer of Jmmanuel. He was betrayed by Juda Ihariot who was a son of a Pharisee, one of Jmmanuels enemy at the time.
Key part of the Scripture is that Jmmanuel didn't die on the cross but fell into a coma for three days- which he knew would happen. After that, he went to India to continue his teachings with his mother, wife and Judas Iscarioth (possibly more individuals) who was one of his dedicated followers and friend. He became about a 100 years old and is (possibly) buried in Kashmir- India (although muslims claim it's a tomb of a muslim Saint). After his death, Jmmanuel's son went back to the tomb where J. laid for three days to burry/ hide the Scripture, today known under the publication of: The Talmud of Jmmanuel. Published by Meier through his Figu organisation.
Most of the original scripture got destroyed after an attack when it was in possession of Isa Rashid, friend of Meier, who was responsible for the translation of the manuscript from old Aramaic into German. A part of the original still exists and is ,I believe, in the possession of Billy Meier. Dr. James Deardorff- (from Oregon State Unif.) concluded after thorough research it is an authentic manuscript and not a forgery.
Would a full video on the dead Sea scrolls be considered?
@UsefulCharts I'd love to see you dig into the Khaboris Codex. It is an Aramaic manuscript of the new testament that has pages which are very old indeed.
I have a really old nestle-aland, 1933, and i really enjoy it. I could watch a whole episode about nestle aland