I no longer have to dream about Ascendo subs. I made my first purchase and now am the proud owner of two subs in my front corners. I look forward to augmenting them down the road with an infrasonic sub. Not an 80, or 50, but most likely a 32 or 24. Thanks for the great video Matt
Thanks Rob. Great subs for sure. The 24 and 32 are great subs. In my opinion the choice to go with one or the other is really best handled based on the rooms layout and space. If you have budget and physical room for a 32 (and the ability to wire for a 220 outlet) then go for it. Many smaller rooms cannot fit the 32 and so a single 24 or even a pair of 24’s makes more sense. Both play equally loud. The 32 simply plays louder.
@@PoesAcoustics isn't the group delay better on the 32 inch? also less excursion for the same output, so less linear distortion ? just a quick thought, could be wrong.
So WF is now working with infrasubs? It's been a while since I read the Trinnov threads. Ascendo is really talked nowadays, would be cool to listen them one day.
Trinnov cuts under 20Hz (at least lets pass through). In my opinion: Waveforming is depending on Infrasubs (at least Storm got it and now correcting up to 5Hz). I had the pleasure to listen to the 24“, 32“ and 80“ of the Ascendo infrasonics. The physics below 20Hz is different. You need special gear with loads of RMS power and DSP correcting to single digits (and microphones handeling single digits). Room treatment is basically impossible below 10Hz. Infrasubs is an expensive area, but „hearing“ them in action very addicting. It is very different to body shakers, because it pressurising the room, not shaking a furniture. As I first heard the 80“ we sat almost 20 people at three rows. The riser was about seveal tons, and the driver pushed the riser and pressurised the room as there was nothing easier than doing that even at low volume. Since that moment I smile hearing about waveforming: Doing Waveforming right spending 6 figures, missing the essential part. I would recommend spending less, but giving infrasubs a chance. Infrasubs are not argumentable, but expiriencing it will sell it. Hoping you to get the chance to hear it.
@@stefanscharer8533 i donno, my room with 4x JTR RS1s goes down well below 10Hz and doesn't require an 80" subwoofer. It's a fairly small room, so I could see needing more in a larger room. There is also the issue of content, these mastering studios don't have 80" subwoofers, they aren't generally even mastering for content down there. Is this a party trick? At least Trinnov Waveforming is attempting to solve a real problem that multiple row home theaters have, making mega subs for reproducing mastering mistakes like the old version of Edge of Tomorrow is... maybe a gimmick? But, like Matt says, there is a real line there and something for everyone.
It could fit in a residential sized theater. It would just be a very large residence. I once tried to fit one in a giant room and couldn’t find a place for it. Like I had a budget for it. I had a huge room. And I still couldn’t make it work. It’s not easy to implement.
Really enjoying your videos and the different approaches to HT design/equipment that you bring
I no longer have to dream about Ascendo subs. I made my first purchase and now am the proud owner of two subs in my front corners. I look forward to augmenting them down the road with an infrasonic sub. Not an 80, or 50, but most likely a 32 or 24. Thanks for the great video Matt
Thanks Rob. Great subs for sure. The 24 and 32 are great subs. In my opinion the choice to go with one or the other is really best handled based on the rooms layout and space. If you have budget and physical room for a 32 (and the ability to wire for a 220 outlet) then go for it. Many smaller rooms cannot fit the 32 and so a single 24 or even a pair of 24’s makes more sense. Both play equally loud. The 32 simply plays louder.
@@PoesAcoustics isn't the group delay better on the 32 inch? also less excursion for the same output, so less linear distortion ? just a quick thought,
could be wrong.
When is the dual opposed 80" sub launching?
So WF is now working with infrasubs? It's been a while since I read the Trinnov threads. Ascendo is really talked nowadays, would be cool to listen them one day.
Trinnov cuts under 20Hz (at least lets pass through). In my opinion: Waveforming is depending on Infrasubs (at least Storm got it and now correcting up to 5Hz).
I had the pleasure to listen to the 24“, 32“ and 80“ of the Ascendo infrasonics. The physics below 20Hz is different. You need special gear with loads of RMS power and DSP correcting to single digits (and microphones handeling single digits). Room treatment is basically impossible below 10Hz. Infrasubs is an expensive area, but „hearing“ them in action very addicting. It is very different to body shakers, because it pressurising the room, not shaking a furniture. As I first heard the 80“ we sat almost 20 people at three rows. The riser was about seveal tons, and the driver pushed the riser and pressurised the room as there was nothing easier than doing that even at low volume. Since that moment I smile hearing about waveforming: Doing Waveforming right spending 6 figures, missing the essential part. I would recommend spending less, but giving infrasubs a chance.
Infrasubs are not argumentable, but expiriencing it will sell it. Hoping you to get the chance to hear it.
@@stefanscharer8533 i donno, my room with 4x JTR RS1s goes down well below 10Hz and doesn't require an 80" subwoofer. It's a fairly small room, so I could see needing more in a larger room. There is also the issue of content, these mastering studios don't have 80" subwoofers, they aren't generally even mastering for content down there. Is this a party trick? At least Trinnov Waveforming is attempting to solve a real problem that multiple row home theaters have, making mega subs for reproducing mastering mistakes like the old version of Edge of Tomorrow is... maybe a gimmick? But, like Matt says, there is a real line there and something for everyone.
How big would my home theater need to be to get a couple of those 80-inch subwoofers? Should I just look into opening a commercial theatre instead?
It could fit in a residential sized theater. It would just be a very large residence.
I once tried to fit one in a giant room and couldn’t find a place for it. Like I had a budget for it. I had a huge room. And I still couldn’t make it work. It’s not easy to implement.
Subs centered between satellites 😊
Blends beautifully with 2 channel
12:04 "Your subwoofer lineup is similarly . . . expansive." *Expansive* indeed.