Bros gonna go through a 1 day Z cell gathering training arc where he has to pick a specific Gi with the Turtle Mark that holds his saiyan abilities in a sea of random clothes
@@Mystra nah he's only gonna be only able to shoot basic ki blasts because Ichigo is too stupid to learn anything else lol just like his Quincy powers
Kubo has confirmed that Gremmy isn't "accessing space" or "creating a portal to space" as many have said before. Gremmy literally created his own void with stars, galaxies and planets.
@@ykoijin1310 He also mentions it in a response to a fan question on his Klub Outside website. He never outright says how big of a void Gremmy created but the official Viz scan has hundreds of stars and 2 galaxies visible through the opening he used to transport Kenpachi. People often overlook this because the scans that popped up on pirated websites didn't have the stars in the opening, it was just a big black square. So it's a multi-galaxy feat at minimum.
@shoryuken5907 can you link me where he says it and also I do think it's multi galaxy I was just low balling it, ppl try to say it's an outlier when it isn't even the strongest feat in tht arc
@@ykoijin1310 I sent you a link but it seems it mighta been deleted. It wasn't to the actual question cause Klub Outside is a paid site. If you google Klub outside it should bring up a forum with some questions and answers. The forum is now 267 pages long from when I last saw it so I can't find the exact page with the q&a
@@roywempor8395 direct feats where characters actually do stuff to the world directly like blow up planets and stuff feel more impressive imo than someone beating someone else.
I am so curious of what a fully mastered Ichigo looks like. He basically ends the series at level 1. No kido, just discovered quincy powers, states he can’t activate horn at will yet, just unlocked real soul reaper powers, we don’t know what his bankai does, and his fullbring is likely not even close to mastered
See i hate that because he has all this potential but since the series ended it's just that, potential and since bleach is over tht potential is meaningless.
@@ClydeUA-camrwhere's the Naruto vs Bleach videos??? And also what do you think of Gojo vs Star and stripes, Or Do "Sakamoto Days Videos " if you are knowledgeable about it"
Goku definitely wins but Ichigo is stupidly powerful everyone down plays him doesn’t talk about him with much respect but bleach was my favorite anime growing up and I love seeing it get the respect it deserves. Bleach and Naruto shaped my childhood could never get into one piece but I always loved reading the manga of bleach and to this day is in my top 3 anime of all time😎
goku easily wins. ichigo isn't even on the level of the 0 squad bankai which can shake the heavens to soul society to the physical world . his power isn't even on that hoku and literally shake the infinite world of void clearly way bigger that's the verse of bleach
@@khalilwilliams1818 say you haven’t read the manga without saying you haven’t read the manga😂😂😂Ichigo is stronger than squad zero when ywach used almighty the zero division got folded Ichigo had to fight almighty yhwach and would’ve won this is just a stupid statement from a guy who can’t read🤦🏽😂
@@khalilwilliams1818 literally how much of bleach have you read cause everything that happens with squad zero buffs ichigos scaling cause he scales higher
@@f210-t1r clearly I'm talking about their bankai the power of the zero squad the women who makes the outfits her bankai clearly scales above ichigo ,the others had to sacrifice themselves for her to use it and it affects all three realms . ichigo bankai doesent do that sorry. either way ichigo can't hold a candle to goku .goku can shatter a universe in base if you go by his scaling . ichigo can't even beat base goku. yes 1on 1 ichigo can beat the zero squad . ichigo doesent even scales to yuha. yuha can easily defeat ichigo he broke his banki then tsukashima used his powers to bring it back aizen has to destract ichigo and Ishida had to nullify yuha powers for ichigo to attack him , he had alot of factors in him defeating yuha . if not he would have lost
It's funny you mentioned here about Tekken because the Tekken character *Claudio Serafino* is heavily inspired by Bleach. He is an Exorcist and leader of the "Archers of Sirius" where they purify demons. He wears an all white attire and shoots blue reishi like arrows towards demons/devils/vampires. Sound framiliar? A direct reference to Quincy's and their design as well as lore to purify hollows. Even other aspects of the Tekken story is inspired by Bleach. Jin accepting Devil Jin in his inner thoughts saying "I'm not evil, I've always tried to protect you. I'm you." Exactly like Ichigo accepting Zangetsu.
One of the Directors or writers of Tekken even said Bleach is he’s favorite Manga which confirms the series did take some inspiration from Bleach and Devil may cry also has a few things inspired from Bleach to probably
I know this is is random but I'm looking through the comments while watching your video and i find it cool how interactive your are with your comment section and community.
I’ve always tried my best since I first started UA-cam to be on top of this kind of thing, it’s honestly not hard, but some videos do make it difficult with thousands of comments.
I have to say, that’s a crazy title/claim to make but this was a very thorough and insightful analysis of how the characters actually stack up against eachother. You did great Clyde
Something I've said in Bleach power scaling discussions before is that it's very likely that lightning based attacks (such as the 1st squad's lieutenant's Bankai or the blonde Bambi) are lightning ELEMENT reishi based attacks. So they wouldn't be limited to the speed of real world lightning since that's not what they are.
You’re correct. It’s constantly shown to be above light speed so yeah & we know reiatsu can take on elemental properties & appearance look at Yama & Toshiro
@@ClydeUA-camr So you are implying that their kido lightnings may be faster than the real ones, but maybe they may be slower than the real ones if that’s an energy attack? It’s like is cero light speed..? I guess not, it’s just some energy beam, which is more likely… if we can say it is then we can scale light speeds, but I guess that these kinds of attacks are not light speed How can I prove this right or wrong? As far as I’m concerned, bala is sound speed and it’s faster than cero…( They are quick, but not that quick, I love bleach, but you’re maybe wrong And I don’t understand when people say Goku was Lightspeed in childhood…. Don’t you remember that he was not dodging the sun… he was dodging Tayoken, yes, this is a light based attack but it works by amplification of some light in some direction with Ki, so it’s as fast as opponents Ki… Sometimes authors don’t explain something in detail on purpose for readers to discuss but even if we highball these characters it’s huge but not that huge)
@@blackwellbrooklyn6142 nah yhwach was def a multiversal threat him being able to destroy all the 3 realms watch when tywb gets over y'all Gon be surprised
My question is what did it do 😂 he summoned space for what 😂 goku and even high tier Naruto characters can fly all throughout space at mftl speeds, so even if he did have enough power to create that he’s incredibly stupid for doing it the way he did
My grandmother used to tell me stories about the old days, a time of peace when Clyde videos were "plentiful." But that all changed when boredom attacked. Only Clyde could stop the ruthless boredom, but when the world needed him most, he vanished. A hundred years have passed, and the boredom is nearing victory in the war. Two years ago, my father and the men of my mafia family journeyed to my insides to help fight against the boredom, leaving me in pieces. Some people believe that Clyde stopped uploading and that the schedule is broken. But I haven't lost hope. I still believe that somehow, Clyde will return to save the world.
When the Goat uploads we show up, this video is PEAK, I love long expansive scaling videos and I was just talking with a buddy bout how strong Ichigo is can’t wait for part 3 to drop
If I've learned anything from this video, it's that Dragonball is super easy to scale and Bleach is super difficult. The main reason for the latter is Bleach's power is much more... conceptual rather than physical.
around 33:30 gremmy didnt just :open up a doorway" he fully created a pocket dimension that contained a galaxy. That void of space was entirely gremmy's creation and this was stated by kubo himself
The counter against Chad smashing the hollow with an electric pole is to argue that, since the Hogyoku was already within Rukia at the time giving Ichigo’s friends his powers, it was already amping Chad. Chad’s powers later turn out to be fullbring, and fullbringers manipulate the soul within physical matter to perform their abilities. So, Chad was just manipulating the soul of the electric pole. Makes a lot more sense this way, considering that Ichigo strongly implies that a normal weapon wouldn’t be able to hurt him when he’s training with Urahara.
wrong, fullbringers actually just inherit the soul kings power through extremely tiny portions of his body. The fullbringers didnt know what their power actually came from. In reality, what seems to be the manipulation of souls in physical matter, is just them harnessing a small amount of the soul kings power, which puts into question just how absurdly strong the soul king actually is. This is also why hollows seemed to be the reason for fullbringers. In reality, they didnt become fullbringers due to hollow attacks, hollows attacked them due to the extreme power within them from the soul kings body parts.
15:38 OR maybe Karakura Town possessing the highest concentrated spirit zone in the world of the living would have an effect on the area within it. Anyway, Chad punching a hollow he can not see is the most CHADDEST thing in any anime ever.
@ClydeUA-camr Hey Clyde, what happened to all those videos of yours that came out after this video? There were about 4 or 5 of them, I think, but now they're all gone. Were they maybe copyrighted?
It's nice that even Kubo paid his respect to Akira, his work inspidred truly lot of great creators, as Kubo said, Akira will never die as long as his legacy lives on
I check at least once a week for a new video from you, and so happy to see you drop one finally. Hope to see more from you drop consistently, you are easily my favorite power scaler and I love the content
A fun fact about Ichigo. Despite everything; he has the bare minimum training and understanding of all of his powers, and he doesn't want to know anymore than he needs to. Man isn't a warrior, just a drafted soldier in a fight he's forced to be in.
One thing you got wrong in this video was about gremmy. He didn't just open a portal he straight up builds an entire galaxy. It's confirmed in CFYOW somewhere around the part where shunsui and tokinada are talking about gremmy.
@@m.c4847 Hates?Where? I only see Fanboys of him calling everyone weak compared to toshiro. Literally I was watching Rukia bankai edit and went to comment section and saw how Toshiro is stronger and etc..While no one asked.
I love the fact that Akira toriyama Encouraged Tite kubo for sending Bleach again in the shonen jump Goes to show how that Man off screen helped the anime industry That man was a pure diamond 😔💔 It always pains my heart that he's gone forever
Soul Reapers being "invisible" to living people doesn't mean jack when Goku as a living being can visit King Kai or other beings/locations equivalent to Soul Reapers and Soul Society and not only interact but see them as well.
oh, this has made me realize what an anti feat the gremmy meteor is, all the characters being intimidated by a meteor means they're all easily below moon level
no it isn't cause that scene has been retcon in the anime where only the regular grunt were afraid of the meteor while everyone didn't give a shit about it (and yes the anime is superior canon since kubo is involved in it and is his true vision of that arc)
People keep taking it as a meteor at face value, when Gremmy's power is phenomenological. Even if we take the manga version as canon, Gremmy clearly states he imagined people's deaths by meteorite with no survivors (an extinction event), not "a meteor of x size and xyz dimensions hitting you". What Kenpachi cut was the literal phenomenon, which is why Gremmy shit himself. If it were an DC thing, that meteor is less destructive than Ulquiorra's spammable Lanza.
21:00 Actually, there's a potential explaination for this. Look at a plane up in the sky moving at 500mph, and you'l find that it's very easy to keep track of and know where it's going. Try looking at a fly that's buzzing around a light at 50mph, and it's virtually impossible to track it. I believe that this somewhat applies to King Kai in this situation.
@@ClydeUA-camr That's me high balling Ichigo all things considered what he does between him and Aizen with the Final Getsuga and against Juha, there isn't really a grand concrete showing of feats of power outside of comparing him with other characters like Kenpachi cutting a meteor and we know a meteor is nothing to a planet. Dangai Ichigo smacked a dimensioning based Hado move but that is dependent on the power of the user itself. Impressive feat, but Ss3 Gokus power alone can be felt in the world of the supreme kais world and looking at the scaling of the Dragonballs different dimensions is very large. Larger than the Hado #99 Aizen conjured. Considering all of the multipliers and Gokus training up to that point, he has the overwhelming amounts of raw power, and speed at his side. I'm going to edit this as I go along the video though
@@ClydeUA-camrpiccolo had a similar statement of supreme Kai being dimensions apart u could have used that in the video pretty similar to aizens statement Ichigo hard stops at Buu saga further than any one else in the big 3 the speed difference is just way to big if u are charitable to Ichigo and use infinite speed statements u can do the same for Goku too by Buu saga u could use garlic jr hyperspace scaling to get raditz to universal+
There is a super simple way to solve the character interaction problem. Goku has a bad habit of getting killed and coming back to life, and later casually pops in and out of the afterlife to give King Kai shi- Err, I mean train. Just have the fight happen there.
Thanks so much! This was major brain candy! Easily my two top fav anime hands down..love the analysis and especially the Speed and power scaling. You rock for this one!👏🏾🤝🏾💯
Thats the thing Goku has become basically as said here The Superman of japan. He's become that iconic and that renound that the only people that can really face him is op comic book western characters or religious figures at this point.
Something I’ve noticed is that people accept higher scaling for characters that have a history of being strong or are just really iconic. Like Ichigo could literally do every feat that Goku or Superman or any other famously powerful character does and most people still wouldn’t acknowledge it.
@@shiroufan5401 In the case of Bleach I think the reason people skew away from believing how strong Ichigo is, is because we don't see too much crazy feats on the level of dragon ball in anime. Which is where most anime fans view things from. That or they just don't want to believe some characters are stronger than they're favorite characters
Doesn’t matter, the statement is still descriptive, so comparatively, it’s impressive. A 300+ year old hyper-genius uses that exact wording to convey how strong he perceives it. Wild!
You're right however as Clyde said, for someone like aizen to word his thinking process in such way, the difference in power can be translated to folds of magnitude
@@ClydeUA-camr It's pretty much an analogy. We can't say that ichigo has a higher dimensionality or higher dimensionality of AP because of that. Sure Aizen did mean that Ichigo was way stronger than him so it's impressive.
@@nickhollow yes i meant if we don't consider the dimensionality interpretation thing into consideration then for someone like aizen to talk like that, the difference in power between him and Ichigo should be much bigger than anyone thinks
The Novels flat out state that Grimmy Created the Galaxy room not Opened a doorway/portal. Kubo even confirms this and the concept art he drew visibly shows planets in it. Opening something vs Flat Out Creating it are Two Different Things
We all knew Goku was going to win, but ichigo is the closest of the big three to him in power, but he still gets folded I’m a massive bleach and I know with the amount of 50 60 70 100 times multipliers that characters in Dragon Ball get it’s very hard to make a character stronger than them.
Yes Ichigo is probably Saturn level at best or if very very generous, Jupiter level, I love bleach as a show but I hate it because of its inconsistency with power scaling
I think ichigo is solidly in universal level of power. Feats shown by the likes of bu. I think ichigo would fit in the tournament. I think he'd loose. But he wouldn't be the first out.
I really liked your explanation of “wanting Goku to lose”, in the beginning. When you have never watched dragonball and hear “he can punch universes away, that’s why he wins” then you would initially be in disbelief, one piece characters have never been shown doing this, so how can Goku? “They must be talking shit”. It’s easy to see how many people try to take Goku fans down a peg when they mention hax that may or may not give Goku a hard time.
it's been shown time and time again in dragonball that enough power can just out right make hax not work, prime example ssjb kaioken vs hit's time skip in the universe 6 torney
@@spyrolancer While that's true, majority of hax in Dragon Ball is ki based, so you can't really say it works for non ki based hax. Even Buu's magic with turning Vegito into candy, you could say it's thanks to the potara rings themselves that allowed that, not an argument I agree with tho. Still, the power difference didn't negate the body transfiguration, just the power nullification. It's also only really through having more raw power, just like in Bleach, one reason why I really hate a certain Goku vs the Big 3 equal state composite video, as the man acts like Goku has all those nullifications naturally, and not because of it being only due to a power difference that he could display such.
@@TuckerBowChicka1 not all hax in dragonball are ki based that's stupid, guldo's time stop isn't ki based neither is hit's time skip or piccolo's regeneration, I could go on, ig you could argue that candy thing is ki based but you forget buu could use magic which isn't really ki at all, I always saw the candy thing as magic, thus why it affected vegito but again as I said before with enough power hax just don't work as he fought as a piece of candy
You likely know all of it but adding a bit of what I think: Ichigo should scale to Juha and cosmology since in terms of raw power he's either relative of likely stronger than him, due to Juha insta negging Tensa Zangetsu with A and later being oneshoted twice by severely weakened Ichigo. This is further supported by Ichigo being a full fledged SK candidate even in base without his zanpakuto's (CFYOW and Irazusando respectively). This is important because to be a replacement for Reio you need to have enough raw power to handle all of bleach cosmos (proven by the fact that Ginjo isn't one despite having right heritage + Hikone needing to go through entirety of CFYOW and multitude of power ups to be on that level + irazusando) Absolute min for Shutaro feat is multi solar and that's only if we assume that her reiatsu teleported across different time-space continuums for some unknown reason. If we don't do that however than it would be uni+ - low-multi due to "severely affecting X" part of the definition Every single mention of Gremmy and his dimension states that he created it. This naturally scales to his reiatsu since we clearly see that his V has limits in the face of Kenpachi level power. You can argue that it was with clones, but this can't be the case since this entails that clones increase his reiatsu reserved which is contradicted by Gremmy being exhausted after the feat. This is further supported by the fact that instead of trying to repeat this again, Gremmy just tried to copy Kenpachi's power, meaning that he thought of it as a step up from what he did previously Similar situation is with Muken. The only time it was described as not infinite is in 13 Blades, which not only wasn't made by Kubo (it even says that Rangiku has Bankai lol), but was also likely mistranslated. Every other instance of it being mentioned as in manga, anime and novels has it as infinite
@@roywempor8395 I would say more like mid ball, but yeah higher dimensional stuff is applicable to Bleach as well due to garganta and dangai. It's just way too much work to explain in 1 YT comment lol
actually thought I had somehow unsubbed to you... Thank goodness I didn't! You're one of the few people who still talk about Bleach. Also, I think the reason scaling Bleach can be difficult is because I think Kubo has gone on record to say that he got into manga because he wanted to draw cool shit. You're probably putting more thought into the scaling here than he did lol.
By simply having ichigo being in the same video with goku under ur power scaling knowledge proves how strong our ichigo is u did a great job man hope to see more of ur videos soon
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Rest In Peace to the greatest of all time, Akira Toriyama. This video took me 3 months to produce. I hope you all enjoy it.
Miss you Clyde and yes RIP to the GOAT Akira Toriyama
This video was an excellent piece of service to his legacy. Couldn't be anymore proud of the work you've put in bro
It’s better to spend more time to create higher quality videos
How’s that Yamamoto vid coming?
RIP Toriyama-sama
Ichigo would probably be like t
This fight awakens my sayian blood from my great great great grandfather
Lmfaooo
3 days later: oh so this is Ultra instinct how neat
lol
Bros gonna go through a 1 day Z cell gathering training arc where he has to pick a specific Gi with the Turtle Mark that holds his saiyan abilities in a sea of random clothes
@@Mystra nah he's only gonna be only able to shoot basic ki blasts because Ichigo is too stupid to learn anything else lol just like his Quincy powers
@@seniorsterling1064 he had like zero time to learn anything Quincies do though. Their training takes years and he had only nine days.
nice vid,see you in 6 months bro
lmfao I'll try to be faster, I got some other videos that are almost completed
@@ClydeUA-camr THE LONGER, THE BERTTER THE VIDEO QUALITY.
@@ClydeUA-camr Not faster than Goku though
@@ClydeUA-camrtake ya time homie but at the same time ya boy hangry for more
Nah that's too early😂
Kubo has confirmed that Gremmy isn't "accessing space" or "creating a portal to space" as many have said before. Gremmy literally created his own void with stars, galaxies and planets.
Source or no Source?
@@ykoijin1310 He also mentions it in a response to a fan question on his Klub Outside website. He never outright says how big of a void Gremmy created but the official Viz scan has hundreds of stars and 2 galaxies visible through the opening he used to transport Kenpachi. People often overlook this because the scans that popped up on pirated websites didn't have the stars in the opening, it was just a big black square. So it's a multi-galaxy feat at minimum.
@shoryuken5907 can you link me where he says it and also I do think it's multi galaxy I was just low balling it, ppl try to say it's an outlier when it isn't even the strongest feat in tht arc
@@ykoijin1310 I sent you a link but it seems it mighta been deleted. It wasn't to the actual question cause Klub Outside is a paid site. If you google Klub outside it should bring up a forum with some questions and answers. The forum is now 267 pages long from when I last saw it so I can't find the exact page with the q&a
lowball multi-galaxy highball a universe
The craziest, most underrated feat in Bleach will always be Aizen blinking away the cleaner, a meta-creature of reason, in the Dangai.
not at all, you forgot about the guy who made the dangai, the soul king, who got absorbed by Yhwach.
and Ichigo, who beat that Yhwach.
@@roywempor8395 direct feats where characters actually do stuff to the world directly like blow up planets and stuff feel more impressive imo than someone beating someone else.
It is an underrated feat for sure
@@spriggylotus4476 they feel more impressive but most ppl don't use it to scale
Funnily enough orihime didnt had the feat like aizen but she was still capable to stop the cleaner while everyone was just running away.
I am so curious of what a fully mastered Ichigo looks like. He basically ends the series at level 1. No kido, just discovered quincy powers, states he can’t activate horn at will yet, just unlocked real soul reaper powers, we don’t know what his bankai does, and his fullbring is likely not even close to mastered
See i hate that because he has all this potential but since the series ended it's just that, potential and since bleach is over tht potential is meaningless.
@@seniorsterling1064 nah he protected his friends
@@seniorsterling1064he accomplished his goals, he a real one fr
his fullbring form is mastered and fused with his base
@@roywempor8395 from what we see in CFYOW he’s no where near a mastered fullbring
By far one of your greatest works ever!
Thank you Chuck
How do I become like y’all?
@@lil_loaded2124touch less grass?
@@ClydeUA-camrwhere's the Naruto vs Bleach videos??? And also what do you think of Gojo vs Star and stripes, Or Do "Sakamoto Days Videos " if you are knowledgeable about it"
😂 literally, for these guys probably better to touch no grass at all@@augustgremaud2738
Gremmy materialized outer space….. he didn’t open a door
This.
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Oh shit Clyde about to start a war with this one 😂😂😂. Glad you’re back man.
thank you bro hahaha
Goku definitely wins but Ichigo is stupidly powerful everyone down plays him doesn’t talk about him with much respect but bleach was my favorite anime growing up and I love seeing it get the respect it deserves. Bleach and Naruto shaped my childhood could never get into one piece but I always loved reading the manga of bleach and to this day is in my top 3 anime of all time😎
Very true bro, people be downplaying bleach and Ichigo far too much!
goku easily wins. ichigo isn't even on the level of the 0 squad bankai which can shake the heavens to soul society to the physical world . his power isn't even on that hoku and literally shake the infinite world of void clearly way bigger that's the verse of bleach
@@khalilwilliams1818 say you haven’t read the manga without saying you haven’t read the manga😂😂😂Ichigo is stronger than squad zero when ywach used almighty the zero division got folded Ichigo had to fight almighty yhwach and would’ve won this is just a stupid statement from a guy who can’t read🤦🏽😂
@@khalilwilliams1818 literally how much of bleach have you read cause everything that happens with squad zero buffs ichigos scaling cause he scales higher
@@f210-t1r clearly I'm talking about their bankai the power of the zero squad the women who makes the outfits her bankai clearly scales above ichigo ,the others had to sacrifice themselves for her to use it and it affects all three realms . ichigo bankai doesent do that sorry. either way ichigo can't hold a candle to goku .goku can shatter a universe in base if you go by his scaling . ichigo can't even beat base goku. yes 1on 1 ichigo can beat the zero squad . ichigo doesent even scales to yuha. yuha can easily defeat ichigo he broke his banki then tsukashima used his powers to bring it back aizen has to destract ichigo and Ishida had to nullify yuha powers for ichigo to attack him , he had alot of factors in him defeating yuha . if not he would have lost
Never forget the absolute greatness of Akira Toriyama Rest In Power and always great to see this mad lad upload
It's funny you mentioned here about Tekken because the
Tekken character *Claudio Serafino* is heavily inspired by Bleach. He is an Exorcist and leader of the "Archers of Sirius" where they purify demons. He wears an all white attire and shoots blue reishi like arrows towards demons/devils/vampires.
Sound framiliar? A direct reference to Quincy's and their design as well as lore to purify hollows. Even other aspects of the Tekken story is inspired by Bleach. Jin accepting Devil Jin in his inner thoughts saying "I'm not evil, I've always tried to protect you. I'm you."
Exactly like Ichigo accepting Zangetsu.
One of the Directors or writers of Tekken even said Bleach is he’s favorite Manga which confirms the series did take some inspiration from Bleach and Devil may cry also has a few things inspired from Bleach to probably
People were actually saying that ichigo could appear as a guest character.
@@HiddenschmeatvillageWhat a reality to live in.
@@Hiddenschmeatvillage in the next one
Tekken had the Jin and Devil Jin story before Bleach
I know this is is random but I'm looking through the comments while watching your video and i find it cool how interactive your are with your comment section and community.
I’ve always tried my best since I first started UA-cam to be on top of this kind of thing, it’s honestly not hard, but some videos do make it difficult with thousands of comments.
@@ClydeUA-camr aye man I appreciate it all the same and w fucking vid as always
He even replies to comments that are genuinly braindead. Especially on his Dangai and Mugetsu videos.
i genuinely dont think you're capable of making a video below a 10/10. The highest tier of quality on youtube every video, great work as always.
That means a lot to me, thank you.
I have to say, that’s a crazy title/claim to make but this was a very thorough and insightful analysis of how the characters actually stack up against eachother. You did great Clyde
My boys would spar for 2 mins then go get some dinner, better use of their energy 😂 great vid as always
😂😂😂 laughed at that one
Something I've said in Bleach power scaling discussions before is that it's very likely that lightning based attacks (such as the 1st squad's lieutenant's Bankai or the blonde Bambi) are lightning ELEMENT reishi based attacks.
So they wouldn't be limited to the speed of real world lightning since that's not what they are.
Absolutely, good argue for bleach speed
You’re correct. It’s constantly shown to be above light speed so yeah & we know reiatsu can take on elemental properties & appearance look at Yama & Toshiro
Every thing in the Bleach verse is made of Reshi including light
@@ClydeUA-camr So you are implying that their kido lightnings may be faster than the real ones, but maybe they may be slower than the real ones if that’s an energy attack?
It’s like is cero light speed..? I guess not, it’s just some energy beam, which is more likely… if we can say it is then we can scale light speeds, but I guess that these kinds of attacks are not light speed
How can I prove this right or wrong?
As far as I’m concerned, bala is sound speed and it’s faster than cero…(
They are quick, but not that quick, I love bleach, but you’re maybe wrong
And I don’t understand when people say Goku was Lightspeed in childhood…. Don’t you remember that he was not dodging the sun… he was dodging Tayoken, yes, this is a light based attack but it works by amplification of some light in some direction with Ki, so it’s as fast as opponents Ki…
Sometimes authors don’t explain something in detail on purpose for readers to discuss but even if we highball these characters it’s huge but not that huge)
No it’s really not. Nothing assumes this, “it’s made out of this, so it must be more potent than that” headass argument😂
Ichigo: Unlocks Ultra Instinct in 2 days
Goku: 👁️👄👁️
You mean
Goku: 😃
@@littleaqua32hahaha respect 🫡
Goku mastered ui in less than 50 minutes
@@westonpickeringtrue
He would say: Ome sugee naa.
Everyone down playing Ichigo but hes actually strong
I wank tf out of him
He isn’t that strong…. Meaning Goku strong not even close and idc what any fake YT fangay says it’s not close at all.
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Ichigo is goated but dbz power scaling is far superior . They destroy planets with ease . You cant compare that unless ichigo got shrifts.
@@blackwellbrooklyn6142 nah yhwach was def a multiversal threat him being able to destroy all the 3 realms watch when tywb gets over y'all Gon be surprised
When gremmy imagined the galaxy if you zoom in you will see 3 galaxies
You can also see several clusters, too, so easily a multi galaxy feat bare minimum
it's also not a portal, it's clearly stated to be a creation feat, and kenpachi cut it all.
My question is what did it do 😂 he summoned space for what 😂 goku and even high tier Naruto characters can fly all throughout space at mftl speeds, so even if he did have enough power to create that he’s incredibly stupid for doing it the way he did
@@NathanHager-o6j bros a month late
@@NathanHager-o6jthat his gimmick. If he was actually smart he would be the most op character in bleach.
My grandmother used to tell me stories about the old days, a time of peace when Clyde videos were "plentiful." But that all changed when boredom attacked. Only Clyde could stop the ruthless boredom, but when the world needed him most, he vanished. A hundred years have passed, and the boredom is nearing victory in the war.
Two years ago, my father and the men of my mafia family journeyed to my insides to help fight against the boredom, leaving me in pieces. Some people believe that Clyde stopped uploading and that the schedule is broken. But I haven't lost hope. I still believe that somehow, Clyde will return to save the world.
Lmfao
Goated comment
Cool Ichigo bleach pfp
@@ClydeUA-camr Thank ye kindly, sir.
😂😭😭 best OAT
Without a doubt, one of best Bleach vid representation scaling. Your effort should not be overlooked. You truly are the Soul King of Bleach scaling. 👑
We are so back😤
From where
London
Clyde came home with the milk and a new upload.
Oh yes.
Unfortunately the milk expired, so he hast to go out again.😢
@@___________0Z0X I should have told him to get the Long Life Milk. Takes longer to expire. 😭😭😭
When the Goat uploads we show up, this video is PEAK, I love long expansive scaling videos and I was just talking with a buddy bout how strong Ichigo is can’t wait for part 3 to drop
Thank you very much brother, have a nice day.
I never thought anyone would convince me goku vs ichigo would be close but here we are
Great to see you back Clyde!
That means a lot, I hope you enjoyed this BLEACH vs Dragon Ball video.
Clyde clearly stated that ichigo wasn't close bro even while wanked
it's not close, Ichigo solos the verse, dragon ball super is 5d.
bleach is 6d.
@@roywempor8395goku no diffs
@@User47693 gayku fangirl go away
Here 15 minutes after the drop, and the comments have not yet exploded into dumpster flames.
I shall enjoy the peace while it lasts.
If I've learned anything from this video, it's that Dragonball is super easy to scale and Bleach is super difficult. The main reason for the latter is Bleach's power is much more... conceptual rather than physical.
And Bleach uses statements and visuals to show the powerscales
around 33:30 gremmy didnt just :open up a doorway" he fully created a pocket dimension that contained a galaxy. That void of space was entirely gremmy's creation and this was stated by kubo himself
Really glad to see one of my current favorite power scalers upload a video featuring one of my current favorite anime characters!
Thank you bro
The counter against Chad smashing the hollow with an electric pole is to argue that, since the Hogyoku was already within Rukia at the time giving Ichigo’s friends his powers, it was already amping Chad. Chad’s powers later turn out to be fullbring, and fullbringers manipulate the soul within physical matter to perform their abilities. So, Chad was just manipulating the soul of the electric pole. Makes a lot more sense this way, considering that Ichigo strongly implies that a normal weapon wouldn’t be able to hurt him when he’s training with Urahara.
Great point
wrong, fullbringers actually just inherit the soul kings power through extremely tiny portions of his body. The fullbringers didnt know what their power actually came from. In reality, what seems to be the manipulation of souls in physical matter, is just them harnessing a small amount of the soul kings power, which puts into question just how absurdly strong the soul king actually is.
This is also why hollows seemed to be the reason for fullbringers. In reality, they didnt become fullbringers due to hollow attacks, hollows attacked them due to the extreme power within them from the soul kings body parts.
@@nabilshah9184 Doesn’t change the point I made.
@@nabilshah9184 you countered nothing
15:38 OR maybe Karakura Town possessing the highest concentrated spirit zone in the world of the living would have an effect on the area within it.
Anyway, Chad punching a hollow he can not see is the most CHADDEST thing in any anime ever.
Bleach been popping off recently. Excited for the next vid Clyde hopefully it drops soon!
3 are coming
@ClydeUA-camr Hey Clyde, what happened to all those videos of yours that came out after this video? There were about 4 or 5 of them, I think, but now they're all gone. Were they maybe copyrighted?
Another goated video, love the level of detail you put into both characters 💪
Thanks brother. What did you think of my Goku vs Ichigo video? I’d like to hear your in depth thoughts
I really loved this video and I appreciate you for taking the time out
It's nice that even Kubo paid his respect to Akira, his work inspidred truly lot of great creators, as Kubo said, Akira will never die as long as his legacy lives on
I check at least once a week for a new video from you, and so happy to see you drop one finally. Hope to see more from you drop consistently, you are easily my favorite power scaler and I love the content
Thanks a lot, it means a lot to me. - should have another video on Friday.
Ichigo has always been the closest to Goku out of every mainstream anime character. He’s just broken.
Sailor moon?
Sailor moon is not main stream @@Adithpr2004
@@RimuruTempest-wl1ru face of shoujo and magical girls anime is not mainstream?
I'm not a fan, but sailor moon is def mainstream.
This was great video glad to see you back
Thank you bro, video took me 2-3 months to make 😭
A fun fact about Ichigo.
Despite everything; he has the bare minimum training and understanding of all of his powers, and he doesn't want to know anymore than he needs to.
Man isn't a warrior, just a drafted soldier in a fight he's forced to be in.
One thing you got wrong in this video was about gremmy. He didn't just open a portal he straight up builds an entire galaxy. It's confirmed in CFYOW somewhere around the part where shunsui and tokinada are talking about gremmy.
You should make a Toshiro based video. Maybe something like Adult Toshiro vs Rukia or Yamamoto. Also awesome video king :)
Definitely
I’ve got lots of future bleach video plans
adult toshiro is almost yama level
Everybody hates on toshiro for some random reason but I would love a video about him
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Hates?Where?
I only see Fanboys of him calling everyone weak compared to toshiro.
Literally I was watching Rukia bankai edit and went to comment section and saw how Toshiro is stronger and etc..While no one asked.
I love the fact that Akira toriyama Encouraged Tite kubo for sending Bleach again in the shonen jump
Goes to show how that Man off screen helped the anime industry
That man was a pure diamond
😔💔 It always pains my heart that he's gone forever
Rest In Peace Mr Toriyama
Soul Reapers being "invisible" to living people doesn't mean jack when Goku as a living being can visit King Kai or other beings/locations equivalent to Soul Reapers and Soul Society and not only interact but see them as well.
Okay... OKAYYY CLYDE!?!?!!? was literally just thinking about you the other day rewatching some aizen vids
Hope you enjoy this video brother
@ClydeUA-camr very much so far brotha. Also Ilia Topuria is a fucking problem... would love your take on his career path
oh, this has made me realize what an anti feat the gremmy meteor is, all the characters being intimidated by a meteor means they're all easily below moon level
no it isn't cause that scene has been retcon in the anime where only the regular grunt were afraid of the meteor while everyone didn't give a shit about it (and yes the anime is superior canon since kubo is involved in it and is his true vision of that arc)
People keep taking it as a meteor at face value, when Gremmy's power is phenomenological. Even if we take the manga version as canon, Gremmy clearly states he imagined people's deaths by meteorite with no survivors (an extinction event), not "a meteor of x size and xyz dimensions hitting you".
What Kenpachi cut was the literal phenomenon, which is why Gremmy shit himself. If it were an DC thing, that meteor is less destructive than Ulquiorra's spammable Lanza.
There's a difference between anti feat and inconsistency
Ive been wondering for the longest time what exactly made bleach characters Lightspeed, now im fully convinced. Great video
Ichigo and Goku meeting, the fans will win!! just a goat crossover
also finding out Ichigo is part Sayian!! 🔥🔥 haha
🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
21:00 Actually, there's a potential explaination for this. Look at a plane up in the sky moving at 500mph, and you'l find that it's very easy to keep track of and know where it's going. Try looking at a fly that's buzzing around a light at 50mph, and it's virtually impossible to track it. I believe that this somewhat applies to King Kai in this situation.
I'm in love with how well you dismantled the argument over the course of this presentation.
Thank you so much. Means a lot to read!
Tbh to me, its a hard stop at Buu Saga Goku. But of the Big 3, Ichigo has the best chance by a landslide
You think Ichigo hangs around there ?
Give me your in depth breakdown
@@ClydeUA-camr That's me high balling Ichigo all things considered what he does between him and Aizen with the Final Getsuga and against Juha, there isn't really a grand concrete showing of feats of power outside of comparing him with other characters like Kenpachi cutting a meteor and we know a meteor is nothing to a planet.
Dangai Ichigo smacked a dimensioning based Hado move but that is dependent on the power of the user itself. Impressive feat, but Ss3 Gokus power alone can be felt in the world of the supreme kais world and looking at the scaling of the Dragonballs different dimensions is very large. Larger than the Hado #99 Aizen conjured. Considering all of the multipliers and Gokus training up to that point, he has the overwhelming amounts of raw power, and speed at his side. I'm going to edit this as I go along the video though
@@ClydeUA-camrpiccolo had a similar statement of supreme Kai being dimensions apart u could have used that in the video pretty similar to aizens statement Ichigo hard stops at Buu saga further than any one else in the big 3 the speed difference is just way to big if u are charitable to Ichigo and use infinite speed statements u can do the same for Goku too by Buu saga u could use garlic jr hyperspace scaling to get raditz to universal+
honestly, 'stops at buu saga' is the same as saying 'stops at teen gohan'.
The goat has returned
You the goat bro
Glad to see u back bro 🙏
Such a great video, thank you 🙏
DA BOI CLYDE. Hope you doing great man. Very underated
You too brother
What's your in depth thoughts on the subject?
LETS GOO NEW VIDEO!!!!
Trinty the goat
Appreciate the time and work you put into making a video this indepth!
Thank you very much. Hope you enjoyed this Dragon Ball vs BLEACH video!!
There is a super simple way to solve the character interaction problem. Goku has a bad habit of getting killed and coming back to life, and later casually pops in and out of the afterlife to give King Kai shi- Err, I mean train. Just have the fight happen there.
W vid fr this needs more viewss
Thanks so much! This was major brain candy! Easily my two top fav anime hands down..love the analysis and especially the Speed and power scaling. You rock for this one!👏🏾🤝🏾💯
Thats the thing Goku has become basically as said here The Superman of japan.
He's become that iconic and that renound that the only people that can really face him is op comic book western characters or religious figures at this point.
Very good point, Goku from Dragon Ball is on a ridiculous level, now.
Something I’ve noticed is that people accept higher scaling for characters that have a history of being strong or are just really iconic. Like Ichigo could literally do every feat that Goku or Superman or any other famously powerful character does and most people still wouldn’t acknowledge it.
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In the case of Bleach I think the reason people skew away from believing how strong Ichigo is, is because we don't see too much crazy feats on the level of dragon ball in anime.
Which is where most anime fans view things from.
That or they just don't want to believe some characters are stronger than they're favorite characters
That's Astro Boy, not Goku
@@ClydeUA-camrUA-cam shorts that mention an assortment of anime characters that easily one shot Goku do any of you not have UA-cam shorts?!?!?!
I always knew Ichigo was insanely op but could never convince people, what a great explanation =)
Ichigo is goated. Y’all really gotta stop playing with bro lol
lmao, what's your thoughts on things?
Still not beating Goku
Goku got wanked to Infinity
@@UnifiedEntity ok… cool
@@UnifiedEntityshut up
46:38
By a different plane Aizen likely meant a different plane/level of power. Without enough context we can't say he meant dimensions.
Doesn’t matter, the statement is still descriptive, so comparatively, it’s impressive. A 300+ year old hyper-genius uses that exact wording to convey how strong he perceives it. Wild!
You're right however as Clyde said, for someone like aizen to word his thinking process in such way, the difference in power can be translated to folds of magnitude
@@OvercookedOmlette
*Folds of magnitude.*
Not literal dimensionality.
@@ClydeUA-camr
It's pretty much an analogy.
We can't say that ichigo has a higher dimensionality or higher dimensionality of AP because of that.
Sure Aizen did mean that Ichigo was way stronger than him so it's impressive.
@@nickhollow yes i meant if we don't consider the dimensionality interpretation thing into consideration then for someone like aizen to talk like that, the difference in power between him and Ichigo should be much bigger than anyone thinks
glad to have u back clyde
🐐🔥
Thank you brother
Welcome back clyde ❤
Thanks King
He's back! 🖤🖤🖤
Thanks for the support
Finally someone said it, Ichigo plus hacks is ridiculous.
Yup he sure is op, bleach needs more representation
Clyde dropping GOATed videos as usual 🔥
HES BACK LETS FUCKING GOOOOOO
Fire content as usual
You're fire!
@@ClydeUA-camr 🥰
Rest in Peace Toriyama!! Goku Solos 😎
Surfbone the goat!!
*peace
U ruined the moment
@@11billioncrabz true
The Novels flat out state that Grimmy Created the Galaxy room not Opened a doorway/portal. Kubo even confirms this and the concept art he drew visibly shows planets in it.
Opening something vs Flat Out Creating it are Two Different Things
Yeah that’s why I said I’m open to the idea he did what you said, but people think he legit threw an entire galaxy at Kenpachi
@@ClydeUA-camr WOAH WOAH WOAH, Hold Up....People are saying Grimmy *THREW* a Galaxy at Kenpachi!?
@@kaimobley5324I think it’s because the anime doesn’t portray it well
@@Thatfan864 that still doesn't make sense bcus you didn't see Grimmy throw anything
@@ClydeUA-camr Novel is non canon
Clyde is one of the channels that can post as seldomly as they want but I’ll be excited the moment I see that new video up
LETS GOOOOO THE GOAT IS BACK!!! Can't wait for the future videos when bleach comes back.
Nah you the goat lol
Excellent vid. I always had a feeling DBZ scaling and Bleach scaling was closer than people gave it credit for
Absolutely
Give me your in depth thoughts if you want
Well he really upscaled bleach, its still not close.
He’s back, woop woop!
Thank you thank you
We all knew Goku was going to win, but ichigo is the closest of the big three to him in power, but he still gets folded I’m a massive bleach and I know with the amount of 50 60 70 100 times multipliers that characters in Dragon Ball get it’s very hard to make a character stronger than them.
Yes Ichigo is probably Saturn level at best or if very very generous, Jupiter level, I love bleach as a show but I hate it because of its inconsistency with power scaling
Great video as always Clyde.
this is the exact video I’ve been searching for
Hope you enjoy
I think ichigo is solidly in universal level of power. Feats shown by the likes of bu. I think ichigo would fit in the tournament. I think he'd loose. But he wouldn't be the first out.
I’m so open to this, I see the vision
Goat
I’ve seen this asked in your streams so much, awesome to finally have an in depth video on it. It didn’t disappoint either.
Great video bro ❤
Been waiting for you to drop this brother I knew it was coming
I really liked your explanation of “wanting Goku to lose”, in the beginning. When you have never watched dragonball and hear “he can punch universes away, that’s why he wins” then you would initially be in disbelief, one piece characters have never been shown doing this, so how can Goku? “They must be talking shit”. It’s easy to see how many people try to take Goku fans down a peg when they mention hax that may or may not give Goku a hard time.
it's been shown time and time again in dragonball that enough power can just out right make hax not work, prime example ssjb kaioken vs hit's time skip in the universe 6 torney
@@spyrolancer While that's true, majority of hax in Dragon Ball is ki based, so you can't really say it works for non ki based hax. Even Buu's magic with turning Vegito into candy, you could say it's thanks to the potara rings themselves that allowed that, not an argument I agree with tho. Still, the power difference didn't negate the body transfiguration, just the power nullification.
It's also only really through having more raw power, just like in Bleach, one reason why I really hate a certain Goku vs the Big 3 equal state composite video, as the man acts like Goku has all those nullifications naturally, and not because of it being only due to a power difference that he could display such.
@@TuckerBowChicka1 not all hax in dragonball are ki based that's stupid, guldo's time stop isn't ki based neither is hit's time skip or piccolo's regeneration, I could go on, ig you could argue that candy thing is ki based but you forget buu could use magic which isn't really ki at all, I always saw the candy thing as magic, thus why it affected vegito but again as I said before with enough power hax just don't work as he fought as a piece of candy
@@spyrolanceri mean... he said majority not all so idk what you on bout
@@quifilixhaufwoop5189 still doesn't negate the absolute fact that hax against the top tier dragonball characters simply won't work, ki based or not.
Excellent effort and attention to detail! Haven’t tuned in this long to a power scaling video before. Great work dude.
Thanks so much. Means a lot.
Welcome back hope you here to stay 😌
Thank you bro, hope you enjoyed this Dragon Ball vs BLEACH video.
Cant believe I’ve been watching this channel for about 6-5 years now and the content still always bangs.
Thank you so much bro, it means a lot to me.
Think ive come across your content before. take a sub man this is some serious work
You likely know all of it but adding a bit of what I think:
Ichigo should scale to Juha and cosmology since in terms of raw power he's either relative of likely stronger than him, due to Juha insta negging Tensa Zangetsu with A and later being oneshoted twice by severely weakened Ichigo. This is further supported by Ichigo being a full fledged SK candidate even in base without his zanpakuto's (CFYOW and Irazusando respectively). This is important because to be a replacement for Reio you need to have enough raw power to handle all of bleach cosmos (proven by the fact that Ginjo isn't one despite having right heritage + Hikone needing to go through entirety of CFYOW and multitude of power ups to be on that level + irazusando)
Absolute min for Shutaro feat is multi solar and that's only if we assume that her reiatsu teleported across different time-space continuums for some unknown reason. If we don't do that however than it would be uni+ - low-multi due to "severely affecting X" part of the definition
Every single mention of Gremmy and his dimension states that he created it. This naturally scales to his reiatsu since we clearly see that his V has limits in the face of Kenpachi level power. You can argue that it was with clones, but this can't be the case since this entails that clones increase his reiatsu reserved which is contradicted by Gremmy being exhausted after the feat. This is further supported by the fact that instead of trying to repeat this again, Gremmy just tried to copy Kenpachi's power, meaning that he thought of it as a step up from what he did previously
Similar situation is with Muken. The only time it was described as not infinite is in 13 Blades, which not only wasn't made by Kubo (it even says that Rangiku has Bankai lol), but was also likely mistranslated. Every other instance of it being mentioned as in manga, anime and novels has it as infinite
Didn't expect to fing you here 💀. Guess Tekken and Bleach fans are one and the same lollllll 😂😂😂
nice lowball
@@roywempor8395 I would say more like mid ball, but yeah higher dimensional stuff is applicable to Bleach as well due to garganta and dangai. It's just way too much work to explain in 1 YT comment lol
THE GOAT IS BACK !!! 🐐🐐🐐🔥🔥🔥
You're the goat
actually thought I had somehow unsubbed to you... Thank goodness I didn't! You're one of the few people who still talk about Bleach. Also, I think the reason scaling Bleach can be difficult is because I think Kubo has gone on record to say that he got into manga because he wanted to draw cool shit. You're probably putting more thought into the scaling here than he did lol.
Thanks King
Hope you enjoyed this BLEACH vs Dragon Ball video
Much love bro, wishing you the best❤
Thanks for the support, have a great day bro!
Back with another great one! Eager to watch through this whole thing.
Thank you so much, means a lot.
Ngl i was writing a poem then i got the notif, that shit made me smile
Good luck with your poem!
Rip toriyama you will be missed!
And great video Clyde.
I’m curious in your own opinion who wins in a fight between Asta and Deku?
Video only been out for 5 minutes dawg 😭
Asta should win as he is mftl+ and at least moon level if not planet level.
So is Deku@@thegodtier7947
@@thegodtier7947 WAIT WHAT. I haven't read the manga but to think ASTA REACHES MOON LEVEL IS UNBELIEVABLE
@@technobladeneverdies5318moon level is actually too much low ball asta at bare minimum is planetary even though he is actually large planetary
By simply having ichigo being in the same video with goku under ur power scaling knowledge proves how strong our ichigo is u did a great job man hope to see more of ur videos soon
The KING has returned to his THRONE…
You’re the king 👑
I also think Memories of Nobody is the best Bleach movie.
Such an emotional movie
Best bleach movie
And its Canon
@@FrancisL4Dis it rly? As a bleach fan I never knew that lol and I haven’t even watched it either
@@Just_some_guy3 in cour 3, the valley of screams will be mentioned