You say "street fighting skills", but realistically isshin has subtley been teaching Ichigo hakuda his whole life. By randomly attacking him with flying kicks and random punches (or so it seemed to Ichigo) he was secretly building his reflexes and defenses, as well as forcing him to develop counters.
normally I'd say ur overthinking this shit, but I believe this. I actually like thinking of it like that, its not like every plot element will just be outright told anyway right?
@@pinacolottacum1877 I mean, it makes perfect sense when you think about it. Isshin knows that ichigo can see souls. He knows ichigo has a lot of spiritual energy. He knows a hollow already tried to kill Ichigo when it killed his mother. The local shinigami rep is incompetent. On top of that, one of his closest friends is a Quincy and his son goes to school with Ichigo. All these things make me think Isshin wanted to train Ichigo but wanted to do it naturally and without scaring Ichigo since he was still a kid.
Soul Society Ichigo took out 3 Lieutenants without even using his Zanpakuto. And one of those Lieutenants (Sasakibe) had a Bankai for hundreds of years at that point.
AstraKala Yeah he was stated by Yamamoto to be at captain level as Yamamoto asked him to be a captain but he chose to be under yamamoto cause he respected him
@@wisamalkhoory6237 *Don't read this is a don't want spoilers* Ichigo's was always a Shinigami,Hollow,Quincy since birth and his powers are a mystery in some parts of the story his spirits are in total Disarray and sometimes his spirits are willing to help him get through something but mostly keep his powers locked due to Ichigo shunning something that is still and was always a part of his soul and other times due to the spirits intentionally hiding ichigo's power to discourage him from getting in more dangerous situations which as we all know didn't work on Ichigo as he kept running towards death every chance he got.
His fight with Kenpachi will forever be my most favorite, such character development from that point on. And Zaraki is such a beast, he was so overpowered as a child.
Right his little chat to Byakuya when he reveals his Bankai with a smile was badass. As well as the power he emits during Bankai release was perfect for the moment.
Man, that spiritual pressure shooting out like a getsuga. The tornado of dust and ichigo slicing through it. Only one of Ichigo's bankai releases matches that. And that's when he went into bankai and put his mask on the same time against Ulquiorra the first time.
@@marlonthomas2713 Then came Vasta Lorde Ichigo rose after he "died" to put down Ulquiorra 😈😈 truly epic. Ichigo has a way of putting on a show when he achieves a new power.
Kenny Green well it does ichigo barley beat a sealed Renji which is pretty weak tbh since I’m pretty sure soul reapers who go to the human world gets a seal on their power
Let's be honest. Everyone in this arc who didn't know Ichigo at first was probably thinking that this dude was some freak amongst freaks of nature for how quickly he grew in strength to the level that would usually take decades at least and centuries on average for anyone else.
True that. And I love how everybody explains it like: Oh it's because his father was a shinigami, that explains why he became so strong so fast which is BS as there are other reapers from family's of reapers no where near as strong. The they go, oh he has a hollow, oh the hollow is a vasto lorde(also BS), oh his dad is a reaper captain of one of the 5 noble families(makes Ichigo a nobleman on par with Byakuya), oh his mom is a quincy so he is a hybrid shinigami/quincy/hollow/fullbringer. It's just MC BS
Aizen explains in episode 308 or 309 that the hogyoku's will can have an affect on those around them. Ichigo wanted to get stronger to protect those around him. The hogyoku sensed that and he was able to get ridiculously strong in a tiny amount of time
Dark Sparda well it’s not new it always exists and then there’s no point to the naruto vs ichigo argument if ichigo always had feats to make him multi universal
That time i was reincarnated as a truck I genuinely don’t think Ichigo is multi universal,he’s no doubt solar(eos including every feat and seeing the way he was nerfed by the shinigami badge and yuha) but Naruto even with all his chakra can destroy a country so...idk man
@@Takanome98 you say that with so much dignity. Mate 3 realms SS, hueco Mundo and world of the living made the universe which was devided by rei-o and Yamamoto alone was going to destroy the SS and Seth claiming that SS being planet is before the release of light novels. SS has to be the size of multiple galaxies to make 1/3 of the entire universe and contain trillions-quadrillions of souls along with numerous stars and Ywach who could easily destroy all these realms saw that Ichigo bankai would be the death of him. So yeah Ichigo have to be universal.
Baby NOW YOU FEEL LIKE NUMBER ONE SHINING BRIGHT FOR EVERYONE LIVING OUT YOUR FANTASY OHHHHH THE BRIGHTEST STAR FOR ALLLL TO SEEEEE If this song doesnt come back in the sequel I'm gonna riot
@@pathofthen7988 one of the hardest moment in Bleach bruh Ichigo, whom was bodying mfs up until now, was like "yo I got this!" And the Aizen stopped his sword AND his theme song with a finger, Aizen heard the boss music but it was inconsequential 😭
Ginjo is millions of times slower than Ichigo, fullbring bankai is equal to Ginjo bankai in speed… fullbring bankai weaker than base start of series Ichigo?
When ichigoat dropped his sword and gave the Lieutenants the paws like a chad 🤤, but great vid I love how we’re getting power scales of each version of Ichigo here
@@foxolocation3853 Okay Naruto sure has mastered Taijutsu and when it comes to H2H naruto would win not counting the speed(Bcuz lets be honest Ichigo is faster then naruto) But Ichigo never lose any of his powers without his zanpaktou there are multiple scenes supporting it such as him wiping the Lieutenants without his sword. Ichigo was attacked by his father constantly, which is something subtle enough to slip people's minds. Isshin did not have his powers at the time, however he still had his hakuda skills, which he used to teach hakuda to Ichigo, with no one being any bit the wiser about it. Have some knowledge.
kushagra sharma thank you for proceeding to throw out what I said a comment ago regarding the difference between actual speed and reaction speed yes ichigo learned that art of combat compared to naruto which is smarter has more experience if this is hand to hand using no sp or chakra to enhance attacks then sure either way but if we do allow the to use said sp and chakra to increase their strength the only hand to hand feats we have with ichigo is when he clapped the lieutenants and and fractured or broke the zanpaktou creator’s fist we don’t have enough feats of which to say he wins while we have naruto who one shot a moon buster with a super chakra punch in base him swapping hand with people who have dropped meteors from the sky I doubt it and if speed is basically your only argument to give ichigo the win then idk what the say cause really it makes very little sense that ichigo is many times light speed takes him hours to get to Hueco Mundo and really ichigo speed is inconsistent he gets out speed by a attack assuming its 500x the speed of sound which is pretty slow to the light speeds they should be fighting attack best answer is just the reaction when naruto kcm sage mode literally seems to be similar to teleportation when he move and is keeping up with minato not saying naruto is fast as an instant but it’s inconsistent
@@seantrotman2039 I dont wanna shake/disturb the whole Power-Scaler-Community to the Core but i just realized its possiblle we Always misunderstood how Multiplier work. Dont tell me its possible we just assumed the x5-10 is meant tobe 'temprorary during Bankai' instead of 'permanent when the Shinigami simply attains it?
I always forget that Ichigo's bankai gives him enhanced speed due to compressing his power into a single point. I miss watching him run circles around an enemy as he did with Byakuya.
@@lorddukfoxyzeppeli7921 ...I dont wanna shake/disturb the whole Power-Scaler-Community to the Core but i just realized its possiblle we Always misunderstood how Multiplier work. Dont tell me its possible we just assumed the x5-10 is meant tobe 'temprorary during Bankai' instead of 'permanent when the Shinigami simply attains it?
@@nenmaster5218 I mean idk how you would get a 5-10x when you haven't changed. Sure when you have achieved Bankai you need to be stronger than you was before but if you already had the multiplier before using bankai then why would you ever use bankai. It'd just be a waste of reiatsu if they didn't gain any additional multipliers
Jeez I remember when I first watched this arc years ago, Bleach was the first anime I ever watched and this moment plus his fight against byakuya really sold me as an anime fan. I'm so happy that Bleach is returning. 😊
I would LOVE a how strong is Kisuke, at any point in the story. Specially cause he's my fav character but knowing how strong are bleach characters is hard.
@@eloquitodelaesquina Yea I think like a scaling of just his shikai and bankai would be cool. I really likes his bankai although I dont believe his shikai was ever discussed in depth so thatd be cool to hear about
@@eloquitodelaesquina we know for sure kisuke is insanely fast. At least 20×FTL in shikai by dodges point blank Balas which is cero at 20× speed( cero is spiritual light)
0:53 one of my fave moments was when the music kicked in and Ichigo swings his sword at Aizen and . but the sword and the music stop dead, it was such a shock as the show had programed us to expect Ichigo to win whenever that music is playing.
I personally feel like Ichigo's sensory abilities are a bit like a roller coaster. Sometimes he's amazing at it, like the time he sensed Chad whilst fighting Zaraki, whilst at other times he's not all that great, like the time when he only sensed Arancar Grand Fisher by the time Isshin showed up. Shinji even mentally comments something along the lines of "He's only now just sensing that? Is this guy for real?".
Not really Chad's someone ichigo has for years and would know the feel of were as Fisher only met twice and not someone ichigo would keep a sensor out for as it drags up emotionally turmoil when hes already dealing with white It also shows hes a protector not a warrior as he always senses his allies and only really goes after enemies when they've done something
I think emotional turmoil definitely has a part to play With it. Ichigo's constantly shown he can't use his full power when he's going through something emotionally straining.
@@MaskOfCinder well yes.. but actually no. *but why does it matter who gave him power? Aizen's was accidental and Yhwach only awakened his quincy power... so
The Sokyokou being blocked was pretty hilarious. It gets blocked two more times, like, this thing was supposed to be godly and it just immediately gets repeatedly no selled.
Ichigo is what is referred to as a Natural Born Fighter. It basically means that even without training he is deadly. But he learns more from taking part in actual combat then in training, Because while in a fight he learns at a faster rate then someone who trained in the same techniques. There are a bunch of people like that in the real world too. This is what makes him so great. Awesome video.
I love coming back to this video. It's so shocking the potential and the strength of Ichigo at what feels like the main START of the series. And the explanations that make sense to all those reasons of them having such power. Your Bleach scaling is really unique and bleach is such a unique series that I wish more things either had scaling that could be similar or could be explained like you explain it.
Another thing to remember is that he never wanted to kill anyone, he was only there for rukia. So if he wanted to, he could have killed all of those lieutenants, or even kill byakua. *MAYBE* kenpachi because he did injure him a lot in his fight So everyone is lucky that Ichigo didn't go full lethal otherwise he could have given them some bad casualties
If this kind of speed can be considered a two-digit multiple of the speed of light, I can't Imagine anyone dodging Mugetsu with it being (according to Aizen) in another dimension.
I always thought Mugetsu was a litteral time drift You can't dodge it because it is instantaneous in that time in that soace the attack exists and therefore its impossible to dodge
That’s why it annoys me that people like to claim it’s easy to dodge. Sure, it’s a thin attack, but Aizen in his full monster form, who transcends all Hollows and Soul Reapers (aside from Ichigo) couldn’t dodge it. Its speed is immense.
@@lilyvalentine9294 yeah it’s practically instantaneous as it transcends a transcendent being. I can get it not being able to completely destroy large foes but there’s no dodging it unless your on some dbz level shit
Guy That at that time he was irrelevant, ppl didn’t wanted to see him being able to fight 1v1 against ichigo at that time cuz we would’ve thought he was still weak
I still find it funny how *BEFORE* Ichigo goes to the soul society and when he still not to long gotten[awakening] his powers from Rukia his "Spiritual power" was already very close to that of a captain.
I wish we got to see more hand to hand combat from Ichigo. I feel besides the Soul Society arc they only showed him really use it in his regular human form.
I totally forgot that Konpaku essentially all get zenkai boosts after surviving mortal danger. I had recently thought back on bleach and was a bit confused, thinking that it seemed like many of them had progressed quite slowly compared to Ichigo but suddenly started growing faster.
I completely forgot Tousen used Resurreccion. Makes me wonder if that was yet another of the powers Ichigo should have gained. My belief is that the original ending of Bleach was meant to have Ichigo take the place of the Spirit King because he would have all the powers across the board.
Should do white ichigo, even though he’s apart of ichigo I still think he’s very interesting sum ichigo could’ve bin with the versatility he uses in battle
He's stronger than the Vasto Lorde Ichigo that made a fool of Ulquiorra. Zangetsu would actually be stronger than that Ichigo, since he was only at half of his powers when he foughy Ulquiorra. Not only that but can also use his sword better than Ichigo himself, as we saw when Ichigo fought him.
Which goes to clydes point, 10+ characters having the POTENTIAL to affect the world on a universal level. Kubo did a mediocre job at setting power levels straight in bleach, which hinders some aspects of world building in the bleach universe.
I LOVE that you incorporate the bit about not going overboard with exact numbers or precisely where they stand since it's not the author's intention for us to gouge comparables with headcanon and that you use all source material from the actual manga. This type of character assessment is great. People really do tend to forget how strong this guy was at this point in the series, but he was also wanked quite a bit too in the scenes. But i don't like how after a little while again, Ichigo returns to mid tier strength after we see the captains in full action and the characters he impressed before just rise to absurd levels. I enjoy these a lot and hope you continue to make more content!
I just finished the soul society arc and it is AWESOME, ichigo's Wins were heard by everyone and rightfully so , he took on and defeated some of the most powerful people without Bankai and you have to remember at this point he was still learning about Zangetsu and how to properly use it . When he arrived on the bridge to Save Rukia is such a chilling moment, and I'll never get tired of the leutenants and captains going " What is this guy " every time he got up Coz ermmm that sounds funny coming from them considering their powers 😂😂
Make a video about whether Aizen was preparing Ichigo for Yhwach. Considering Aizen made a powerful race hybrid purposefully at some point knowing that Yhwach is going to come back. And then this hybrid will be trained enough to face him, when Yhwach actually reappears.
Wow, crazy how multiple characters moving at the speed of light or higher look slow compared to others. I can barley imagine myself breaking the sound barrier from movement speed
The crazy thing is, the more he trains and fights powerful opponents, his power increases so much. But the Quincy inside of him is suppressing that power, he even suppresses the power he gains by training. The Quincy within Ichigo can suppress most of Ichigo's power, but not all. So with all of his training, even his Banki training, Ichigo is actually much much stronger than people think. Just imagine if his power wasnt being suppressed this entire time, imagine if he had his full power to draw from during and after his Banki training. I dont think any of the captains would stand a chance against Ichigo at that time, except for maybe the head captain, and probably Zero Squad.
My head cannon will always be that Ichigo got nerfed after Soul Society. Mostly, because of the badge and he didn't get as strong as he should be until Vasto Lorde form. 50% of Ichigo's spiritual energy was being restricted by Zangetsu and 80% by the badge. His spiritual energy was still that strong,I'm guessing as powerful as Lieutenant, with only 20% + because White was trying to come out. I believe once he mastered Hollowfication was able to use 30- 45% of his own spiritual energy. Vasto Lorde 70% ( mostly Hollow), and Dangai being 70%(mostly Quincy since it looks like a Volksatndig) as well but Final Getsuga being 100%. I consider Fullbring Shinigami Ichigo as back to his original 50% like Soul Society Arc since his fullbring comes from the badge that was supposed to seal away his power. However, these are percentages which dont give much in quality but how much of his full potential.
Yknow I've gotten so used to such extreme power scaling that I kinda really didn't notice just how strong all these characters were until I actually looked in depth into it.
I’m actually very happy you addressed the Ichigo post soul society topic in this video as well, I was still left sort of indecisive after our debate bc I didn’t mention the SS badge and how they were weakened in the living world but with more context and seeing as grimmjow should’ve been above the byakuya which fought ichigo it makes a lot more sense
Morons: "TYBW icHiGo iSNt LiGHtSpeeD, ReeeEEEeeE!!1!" Early bleach ichigo: *blocks and deflects a lightspeed attack from a menos grande* TYBW Ichigo: *uh oh, stinky*
What I dislike about these fictional universes is that the characters react and move so fast that it can only be FTL when you analyse it with real physic.
Saihaan Selim the only dumb one,here,is you my friend(and the original commenter) See, It's impossible,in our universe,for any object to travel at light speed. Only,well,light,can travel at light speed. So for all intents and purposes, Bleach (and every anime ever) exist in a completely different universe from ours,not only in aesthetic terms,but physical as well. Who's to say "light" in the Bleach universe moves at light speed? Because it's not the same laws as our universe. You can say "well they have gravity and light,so that makes it just like our universe" no,no it doesn't, because NO OBJECT can move at light speed,In our universe. It is physically impossible. So when dumb "power scallers" like you and the commenter say stupid things like this,I can't help but laugh
Yes,Serhan,they are not. But that was not my point. No object,in reality,can surpass lightspeed,no object can even get close to light speed,and despite them being shinigami,they have physical properties. Understand what Im saying? That's why when I hear stuff like "oh man he can go 20 times the speed of light" im just like "but this doesn't MEAN anything!" And that's a problem I have with power scalling,in general. It's just stupid. It doesn't make any sense. Because anime, comics,whatever, they don't follow our rules. You understane what Im saying?
I think it’s safe to say the Hogyoku had a hand in stopping the fire bird whose name I can’t pronounce. As it manifests the wishes of the user, and Rukia’s wish was to live, it gave her rescuer the power to save her.
yes his zanpaktous ability is to release and compress burst of energy. Combine that with Quincy blood(natural ability to absorb, sense, and release reiatsu) and Hollow reiatsu makes it entirely OP.
I think the problem is that Kubo only hints at this, but because of the hollow Ichigo tends to hold back or not fight without limits after the SS arc. It really annoys me that in the final arc we only see a small glimps of how strong he is, his calm, controlled spirit power and certainly fighting abilities.
@8:52 "some ppl have a head canon that Ichigo became weaker after soul society arc" this might be due to a small filler scene which mirrored ichigo's 1st fight with grimm-joe, except this was against some small fry hollow. I think I was implied that Ichigo "couldn't get it up" until his training with visor'd allowed him to sort of check himself
@@lorddukfoxyzeppeli7921 brother I'm waiting so much for the trailers. I'm also enjoying other mangas and Animes, I'm loving it man. Mangas and anime made my life beautiful.
Do you think that 90% of the problems in the arcs would have been solved if Ichigo would have just listened to White from the beginning? I wonder how this wouldve changed things.
I would've liked to have seen ichigo bonding a little more his hollow/sword and see him do other shit like that. White could've trained him more hollow techniques
@@angelgab-8594 White from the beginning was evil. He even said something like "take care of him cause that body will someday be mine." When he fought Kenpachi. Only interest for White was to not let ichigo die cause he would die too tho. So ichigo had no choice but to work with old man.
Ichigo was constantly nerfed through out the series between the pass, his own powers being imbalance, not even having a Spoiler True Zanpakuto to begin with Ichigo, though in the case of the pass I don’t think he was being nerf THAT much only when he was in his body and Ginjo did say it was only when he had the pass on him is when it be restricted. Still, it took a lot of hoops and hurdles for him to get close to his true potential, and I don’t even think we fully saw that in the manga.
I have a theory to why Ichigo was able to block the strongest weapon in the soul society and why everyone was so surprised when he did so. Nobody had thought to actually try to block the weapon, but all of the captains have the ability to do so but never thought that they would be strong enough to pull it off. After all, I don't that that the Gotei 13 actually expected someone to attempt something so bold. I think they are both surprised at his strength but also the fact that such powerful weapon could be blocked by someone they just met.
So I've been thinking about this for a while. How strong would Ichigo be if he truly mastered all of his abilities? Like, we've seen how normal Shinigami's Zanpakutos grow and develop over time(Renji, Rukia, Yamamoto's bankai, Hitsugaya), so would Zangetsu do the same now his power isn't being suppressed? Also, we know his Vasto Lorde form could use Arrancar techniques like Donido and Hierro, so would he eventually be able to learn all the basic hollow abilities and use them at will? Then there's all the Quincy abilities. We know he's physically capable of using Blut Vein, so there's no reason he couldn't use all of the other standard Quincy techniques. Now, say all of that is true, could he mix and match them? Like, use Blut Artery while having a Hierro? I just think his potential to combine all of these abilities is staggering.
Ichigo was so strong he was given a badge to suppress his op power. Monitoring his power was probably a full time job for the Research and Development Department.
I always saw the Sokyoku feat as the first attack powerful enough to be able to only vaporize Rukia's soul, which was blocked by Ichigo. Then we see the Sokyoku coming in for another attack this time being powerful enough to vaporize the thing that stopped it in its tracks It's all just headcanon I know but I really can't see the Sokyoku, something that even the captains were freaked out about being that weak
You say "street fighting skills", but realistically isshin has subtley been teaching Ichigo hakuda his whole life. By randomly attacking him with flying kicks and random punches (or so it seemed to Ichigo) he was secretly building his reflexes and defenses, as well as forcing him to develop counters.
Well done, I'd never thought about it like that before
Thats actually really smart and makes sense, as I am pretty sure the manga names all the "suprise attacks"
normally I'd say ur overthinking this shit, but I believe this. I actually like thinking of it like that, its not like every plot element will just be outright told anyway right?
@@pinacolottacum1877 I mean, it makes perfect sense when you think about it. Isshin knows that ichigo can see souls. He knows ichigo has a lot of spiritual energy. He knows a hollow already tried to kill Ichigo when it killed his mother. The local shinigami rep is incompetent. On top of that, one of his closest friends is a Quincy and his son goes to school with Ichigo. All these things make me think Isshin wanted to train Ichigo but wanted to do it naturally and without scaring Ichigo since he was still a kid.
Exactly, it's all part of the dumb dad plan when actually he was teaching ichigo.
Soul Society Ichigo took out 3 Lieutenants without even using his Zanpakuto. And one of those Lieutenants (Sasakibe) had a Bankai for hundreds of years at that point.
AstraKala Yeah he was stated by Yamamoto to be at captain level as Yamamoto asked him to be a captain but he chose to be under yamamoto cause he respected him
By the time in the soul society arc came around I’d only assume sasakibe was way stronger than he was before
But this doesnt make any sense, how can ichigo that trained for few days can beat someone who has his Bankai mastered hundred years ago
@@wisamalkhoory6237
*Don't read this is a don't want spoilers*
Ichigo's was always a Shinigami,Hollow,Quincy since birth and his powers are a mystery in some parts of the story his spirits are in total Disarray and sometimes his spirits are willing to help him get through something but mostly keep his powers locked due to Ichigo shunning something that is still and was always a part of his soul and other times due to the spirits intentionally hiding ichigo's power to discourage him from getting in more dangerous situations which as we all know didn't work on Ichigo as he kept running towards death every chance he got.
That was a retcon
Don’t let this video distract you from the fact that Soul Society Arc is a near masterpiece.
9/10
10/10
His fight with Kenpachi will forever be my most favorite, such character development from that point on. And Zaraki is such a beast, he was so overpowered as a child.
Best arc in bleach
Bisexual Ichigo that was mine favorite bleach arc
@@BennyAdenugba better than TYBW ?
The first time Ichigo revealed his bankai, gotta love it.
Right his little chat to Byakuya when he reveals his Bankai with a smile was badass. As well as the power he emits during Bankai release was perfect for the moment.
Man, that spiritual pressure shooting out like a getsuga.
The tornado of dust and ichigo slicing through it. Only one of Ichigo's bankai releases matches that. And that's when he went into bankai and put his mask on the same time against Ulquiorra the first time.
@@marlonthomas2713 Then came Vasta Lorde Ichigo rose after he "died" to put down Ulquiorra 😈😈 truly epic. Ichigo has a way of putting on a show when he achieves a new power.
Actually, I was a bit dissapointed after seeing everyone else's Bankai being HUGE. I was confused.. I wish the kept the Huge Bankai "trend" going.
He should have used the Fullbring armor more to fight hand-to-hand combat
This version of Ichigo was one of the best moments in the early Bleach days
Tyron Iseselena yes indeed
He should have used the Fullbring armor more to fight hand-to-hand combat
Give us please the original thousand year blood war!
True
Let's be real.. Ichigo has NEVER been a weak character
But has been bodied for quite a number of time
That’s why byakuya clapped him in episode 17
MrDominic600 Doesn’t make him weak, just that opponent is stronger than him lol
Kenny Green actually ya you’re right
Kenny Green well it does ichigo barley beat a sealed Renji which is pretty weak tbh since I’m pretty sure soul reapers who go to the human world gets a seal on their power
Let's be honest. Everyone in this arc who didn't know Ichigo at first was probably thinking that this dude was some freak amongst freaks of nature for how quickly he grew in strength to the level that would usually take decades at least and centuries on average for anyone else.
@erik bray u dont make much sense my guy
True that. And I love how everybody explains it like: Oh it's because his father was a shinigami, that explains why he became so strong so fast which is BS as there are other reapers from family's of reapers no where near as strong. The they go, oh he has a hollow, oh the hollow is a vasto lorde(also BS), oh his dad is a reaper captain of one of the 5 noble families(makes Ichigo a nobleman on par with Byakuya), oh his mom is a quincy so he is a hybrid shinigami/quincy/hollow/fullbringer. It's just MC BS
@erik bray you didn't watch the anime or read the manga carefully did you? not the brightest in bunch huh.
@erik bray you know they lost when they whip that "name one character " bs lol
Aizen explains in episode 308 or 309 that the hogyoku's will can have an affect on those around them. Ichigo wanted to get stronger to protect those around him. The hogyoku sensed that and he was able to get ridiculously strong in a tiny amount of time
How strong was Soul Society Ichigo?
Clyde: Yes
Kevin Byrnes bleach verse>>>Naruto verse(Naruto is op,but against Ichigo it would be just Ichigo bullying Naruto)
Kurokenshi 98 yet Seth the programmer disagrees with the Espada beating six paths naruto so there’s something wrong there
Dark Sparda well it’s not new it always exists and then there’s no point to the naruto vs ichigo argument if ichigo always had feats to make him multi universal
That time i was reincarnated as a truck I genuinely don’t think Ichigo is multi universal,he’s no doubt solar(eos including every feat and seeing the way he was nerfed by the shinigami badge and yuha) but Naruto even with all his chakra can destroy a country so...idk man
@@Takanome98 you say that with so much dignity. Mate 3 realms SS, hueco Mundo and world of the living made the universe which was devided by rei-o and Yamamoto alone was going to destroy the SS and Seth claiming that SS being planet is before the release of light novels. SS has to be the size of multiple galaxies to make 1/3 of the entire universe and contain trillions-quadrillions of souls along with numerous stars and Ywach who could easily destroy all these realms saw that Ichigo bankai would be the death of him. So yeah Ichigo have to be universal.
Physical combat in Beach
Kempachi’s face grab.
@Kevin Byrnes no need to diss naruto characters like that, but I do agree bleach characters are way above
Kevin Byrnes don’t roast naruto characters for no reason.
@Kevin Byrnes hey Naruto is fire
The Island Of ZoOtManDo it was
At least naruto didnt go to shit after 3 fucking seasons💀
Baby
NOW YOU FEEL LIKE NUMBER ONE
SHINING BRIGHT FOR EVERYONE
LIVING OUT YOUR FANTASY OHHHHH
THE BRIGHTEST STAR FOR ALLLL TO SEEEEE
If this song doesnt come back in the sequel I'm gonna riot
I'm excited for the return of old OST songs as well as the possibility of new ones
And then Aizen ends the soundtrack with one finger lol
@@pathofthen7988 one of the hardest moment in Bleach bruh Ichigo, whom was bodying mfs up until now, was like "yo I got this!" And the Aizen stopped his sword AND his theme song with a finger, Aizen heard the boss music but it was inconsequential 😭
"Mr Kubo, is it true that Ichigo is 53,456 x's the speed of light?"🤣💀
Give us please the original thousand year blood war!
Ginjo is millions of times slower than Ichigo, fullbring bankai is equal to Ginjo bankai in speed… fullbring bankai weaker than base start of series Ichigo?
Great analysis and explanations, Clyde. Can't wait for more content when Bleach returns.
How
I agree. I hope he does an analysis in the Head Captain.
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why are u here i see u everywhere
Oof the twin
When ichigoat dropped his sword and gave the Lieutenants the paws like a chad 🤤, but great vid I love how we’re getting power scales of each version of Ichigo here
@Kevin Byrnes Not even
Spirit yusuke definitely lol.
Kevin Byrnes naruto has mastered hand to hand and ichigo looses like half his power or more with out his zanpaktou
@@foxolocation3853 Okay Naruto sure has mastered Taijutsu and when it comes to H2H naruto would win not counting the speed(Bcuz lets be honest Ichigo is faster then naruto) But Ichigo never lose any of his powers without his zanpaktou there are multiple scenes supporting it such as him wiping the Lieutenants without his sword. Ichigo was attacked by his father constantly, which is something subtle enough to slip people's minds. Isshin did not have his powers at the time, however he still had his hakuda skills, which he used to teach hakuda to Ichigo, with no one being any bit the wiser about it. Have some knowledge.
kushagra sharma thank you for proceeding to throw out what I said a comment ago regarding the difference between actual speed and reaction speed yes ichigo learned that art of combat compared to naruto which is smarter has more experience if this is hand to hand using no sp or chakra to enhance attacks then sure either way but if we do allow the to use said sp and chakra to increase their strength the only hand to hand feats we have with ichigo is when he clapped the lieutenants and and fractured or broke the zanpaktou creator’s fist we don’t have enough feats of which to say he wins while we have naruto who one shot a moon buster with a super chakra punch in base him swapping hand with people who have dropped meteors from the sky I doubt it and if speed is basically your only argument to give ichigo the win then idk what the say cause really it makes very little sense that ichigo is many times light speed takes him hours to get to Hueco Mundo and really ichigo speed is inconsistent he gets out speed by a attack assuming its 500x the speed of sound which is pretty slow to the light speeds they should be fighting attack best answer is just the reaction when naruto kcm sage mode literally seems to be similar to teleportation when he move and is keeping up with minato not saying naruto is fast as an instant but it’s inconsistent
They absolutely tried to kill Aizen while he was imprisoned, just imagine captains taking turns trying to kill him.
Haha not one of them could do it though
@@seantrotman2039 I dont wanna shake/disturb the whole Power-Scaler-Community to the Core but i just realized its
possiblle we Always misunderstood how Multiplier work. Dont tell me its possible
we just assumed the x5-10 is meant tobe 'temprorary during Bankai' instead of
'permanent when the Shinigami simply attains it?
24:53 Oh she can most definitely affect the entire planet with "those" two weapons
She affected me and im not even in that universe
Hue hue hue, boobies amirite?
@@АртемДерещук precisely friend
@@jaxattack4817 so she's multiversal since she can affect people beyond her own dimension.
Give us please the original thousand year blood war!
I always forget that Ichigo's bankai gives him enhanced speed due to compressing his power into a single point. I miss watching him run circles around an enemy as he did with Byakuya.
Give us the original thousand year blood war please!
@@lorddukfoxyzeppeli7921 ...I dont wanna shake/disturb the whole Power-Scaler-Community to the Core but i just realized its possiblle we Always misunderstood how Multiplier work. Dont tell me its possible
we just assumed the x5-10 is meant tobe 'temprorary during Bankai' instead of
'permanent when the Shinigami simply attains it?
@@nenmaster5218 I mean idk how you would get a 5-10x when you haven't changed. Sure when you have achieved Bankai you need to be stronger than you was before but if you already had the multiplier before using bankai then why would you ever use bankai. It'd just be a waste of reiatsu if they didn't gain any additional multipliers
Ichigo smacking the lieutenants with his bare hands is one of my favorite moments in the series.
Name another protagonist that started off this strong,and in only one arc already became one of the powerful in the whole series .
Gintoki, meliodas, saitama and many more
Me: laughs in saitama
...that's not really something to praise...thats probably one of the worst things about Bleach. The development is off the charts due to bad wiring
Tatsuya shiba
@@GuitarManFromJupiter I actually disagree mostly because until you spend a few hours to scale it it never seems too crazy.
The reason i think Clyde is the best Bleach scaler is because he digs deeper then most power scalers. He do his research right.
Jeez I remember when I first watched this arc years ago, Bleach was the first anime I ever watched and this moment plus his fight against byakuya really sold me as an anime fan. I'm so happy that Bleach is returning. 😊
Same I started out watching bleach too bro in 2016 around the time when the manga ended no?😔
I would LOVE a how strong is Kisuke, at any point in the story.
Specially cause he's my fav character but knowing how strong are bleach characters is hard.
I feel like him and Mayuri are hard to scale since most of their hacks comes from their intelligence
@@NoNo-qt4ov True but i just wanna know how strong he is, maybe regardless of his intelligence
@@eloquitodelaesquina Yea I think like a scaling of just his shikai and bankai would be cool. I really likes his bankai although I dont believe his shikai was ever discussed in depth so thatd be cool to hear about
@@NoNo-qt4ov Yeah, and also speed, combat hability, strenght, just like Ichigo in this video.
@@eloquitodelaesquina we know for sure kisuke is insanely fast. At least 20×FTL in shikai by dodges point blank Balas which is cero at 20× speed( cero is spiritual light)
0:53 one of my fave moments was when the music kicked in and Ichigo swings his sword at Aizen and . but the sword and the music stop dead, it was such a shock as the show had programed us to expect Ichigo to win whenever that music is playing.
Give us please the original thousand year blood war!
I mean he does, but Aizen, cut it off.
Can't wait for the anime to return. Its been so long
its not gonna be that great don't get hopes high
@@yutikoo LOL sure sure, it's gonna be amazing
@@yutikoo nah its pretty alright, Its got the best fights
alfa01spotivo depending on whose gonna animated it’s 50:50
oppai dragonAMV I’m just tryna save you kid from disappointment
I hope Kubo gets to do what he couldn’t do in the manga
I personally feel like Ichigo's sensory abilities are a bit like a roller coaster. Sometimes he's amazing at it, like the time he sensed Chad whilst fighting Zaraki, whilst at other times he's not all that great, like the time when he only sensed Arancar Grand Fisher by the time Isshin showed up. Shinji even mentally comments something along the lines of "He's only now just sensing that? Is this guy for real?".
Not really Chad's someone ichigo has for years and would know the feel of
were as Fisher only met twice and not someone ichigo would keep a sensor out for as it drags up emotionally turmoil when hes already dealing with white
It also shows hes a protector not a warrior as he always senses his allies and only really goes after enemies when they've done something
I think emotional turmoil definitely has a part to play With it. Ichigo's constantly shown he can't use his full power when he's going through something emotionally straining.
He could sense chad because he has a bond or whatever with Chad.
Give us please the original thousand year blood war!
So essentially ichigo is the most op bleach character and aizen and ywach need hacks to keep up.
Ichigo wouldn't have his power without Aizen or Yhwach so no.
@@MaskOfCinder doesn't matter he still has it
@@MaskOfCinder if i give a child a gun he becomes more powerful than me, doesn't matter if i gave him the gun or his mom's boyfriend did
@@MaskOfCinder well yes.. but actually no. *but why does it matter who gave him power? Aizen's was accidental and Yhwach only awakened his quincy power... so
@@raizzes123 how was aizen's accidental. He literally raised the boy to become his adversary.
I’m glad there is someone out there that understands everyone’s power in bleach
Give us please the original thousand year blood war!
This reminds me I need to rewatch the whole series before the anime return. It's been a while.
Lol same
Romaine Johnson I need to do the same but watch the entire thing in dub
Give us please the original thousand year blood war!
Ichigo is a prime example of what Aizen told Sui Feng about fights being of reiatsu.
The Sokyokou being blocked was pretty hilarious. It gets blocked two more times, like, this thing was supposed to be godly and it just immediately gets repeatedly no selled.
sokyokou is overhyped. same logic with building sized zanpakuto. it just sounds more menacing, but the characters are already way beyond that
Ichigo is what is referred to as a Natural Born Fighter. It basically means that even without training he is deadly. But he learns more from taking part in actual combat then in training, Because while in a fight he learns at a faster rate then someone who trained in the same techniques. There are a bunch of people like that in the real world too. This is what makes him so great. Awesome video.
I love coming back to this video.
It's so shocking the potential and the strength of Ichigo at what feels like the main START of the series.
And the explanations that make sense to all those reasons of them having such power.
Your Bleach scaling is really unique and bleach is such a unique series that I wish more things either had scaling that could be similar or could be explained like you explain it.
Another thing to remember is that he never wanted to kill anyone, he was only there for rukia. So if he wanted to, he could have killed all of those lieutenants, or even kill byakua. *MAYBE* kenpachi because he did injure him a lot in his fight
So everyone is lucky that Ichigo didn't go full lethal otherwise he could have given them some bad casualties
Big fat maybe, the dude would match him instantly
But what happens if head captain comes in
After seeing those lieutenants fight later in the Aizen fight is when I really realized how strong Ichigo was back then.
I've been checking this one every day to check the likes
General Kenobi it will get to 10 thousand then we will in time see the how strong is dangai ichigo video
Were so close
General Kenobi this is where the fun begins
Ichigo destroyed a shikai with his bare hands come on man
Punches through gegetsuburi
Thank You suporte Bleach!!!
He should have used the Fullbring armor more to fight hand-to-hand combat
If this kind of speed can be considered a two-digit multiple of the speed of light, I can't Imagine anyone dodging Mugetsu with it being (according to Aizen) in another dimension.
I always thought Mugetsu was a litteral time drift
You can't dodge it because it is instantaneous in that time in that soace the attack exists and therefore its impossible to dodge
That’s why it annoys me that people like to claim it’s easy to dodge. Sure, it’s a thin attack, but Aizen in his full monster form, who transcends all Hollows and Soul Reapers (aside from Ichigo) couldn’t dodge it. Its speed is immense.
@@lilyvalentine9294 he didn't even get to react, it just happened instantaneously
@@lilyvalentine9294 yeah it’s practically instantaneous as it transcends a transcendent being. I can get it not being able to completely destroy large foes but there’s no dodging it unless your on some dbz level shit
Give us please the original thousand year blood war!
Clyde: "How Strong is Shinigami Ichigo?"
Clyde: "Aizen tried to one shot him..missed."
I love Ichigo’s post Bankai training outfit so much that I wish it became his default outfit after the Soul Society arc.
He blitzed the first lieutenant who has one of the oldest bankais which I think he mastered too
Let's remember that
He had for at least 2000 year 6000 is also plausible
@@logandelaharpe6317 yuop
Guy That at that time he was irrelevant, ppl didn’t wanted to see him being able to fight 1v1 against ichigo at that time cuz we would’ve thought he was still weak
@@Giyuu_YT i know the story reasons for it but that shouldn't overcome lore reasons, it should stay consistent
Because none of them expected him to be that strong; ichigo is the embodiment of the element of surprise.
I still find it funny how *BEFORE* Ichigo goes to the soul society and when he still not to long gotten[awakening] his powers from Rukia his "Spiritual power" was already very close to that of a captain.
Clyde coming in clutch with these godly Bleach videos
Give us please the original thousand year blood war!
My day always just instantly improves the moment I see you upload a new video
I wish we got to see more hand to hand combat from Ichigo. I feel besides the Soul Society arc they only showed him really use it in his regular human form.
Well I doubt he would've been able to use hand to hand combat in Hueco Mundo arc.
Man I love Clyde bro, he stated facts and he doesn't just state anything as a fact, he knows what he's saying. Keep it up Clyde.
Awesome timing just finished rewatch this arc
Lucky you lool
I was lowkey just watching your other videos on ichigo then u posted this one ima enjoy this
I totally forgot that Konpaku essentially all get zenkai boosts after surviving mortal danger. I had recently thought back on bleach and was a bit confused, thinking that it seemed like many of them had progressed quite slowly compared to Ichigo but suddenly started growing faster.
Gonna admit I clicked this video by accident but I never been so glad I did. What a serendipity.
Mr D.O.T.I it was destined
I completely forgot Tousen used Resurreccion. Makes me wonder if that was yet another of the powers Ichigo should have gained. My belief is that the original ending of Bleach was meant to have Ichigo take the place of the Spirit King because he would have all the powers across the board.
Ichibei was going to seal him as the new soul king
@@xnope000 right?!?
Clyde is that one Bleach fan that I always go to when I need to research how powerful Bleach characters are!
Should do white ichigo, even though he’s apart of ichigo I still think he’s very interesting sum ichigo could’ve bin with the versatility he uses in battle
He's stronger than the Vasto Lorde Ichigo that made a fool of Ulquiorra. Zangetsu would actually be stronger than that Ichigo, since he was only at half of his powers when he foughy Ulquiorra.
Not only that but can also use his sword better than Ichigo himself, as we saw when Ichigo fought him.
Ichigo used ultra instinct before it was cool
Give us please the original thousand year blood war!
Thats ichigo being suppressed by zangetsu😱😱
Not only that but take the combat pass into play this man was using like 10 or 15 percent of his power bro.
Which goes to clydes point, 10+ characters having the POTENTIAL to affect the world on a universal level. Kubo did a mediocre job at setting power levels straight in bleach, which hinders some aspects of world building in the bleach universe.
Suppressed by Zangetsu when Zangetsu isn't even his Asauchi 😂
Old man +badges=80% nerfed.. How about 100%?😂
I LOVE that you incorporate the bit about not going overboard with exact numbers or precisely where they stand since it's not the author's intention for us to gouge comparables with headcanon and that you use all source material from the actual manga. This type of character assessment is great.
People really do tend to forget how strong this guy was at this point in the series, but he was also wanked quite a bit too in the scenes. But i don't like how after a little while again, Ichigo returns to mid tier strength after we see the captains in full action and the characters he impressed before just rise to absurd levels.
I enjoy these a lot and hope you continue to make more content!
I just finished the soul society arc and it is AWESOME, ichigo's Wins were heard by everyone and rightfully so , he took on and defeated some of the most powerful people without Bankai and you have to remember at this point he was still learning about Zangetsu and how to properly use it . When he arrived on the bridge to Save Rukia is such a chilling moment, and I'll never get tired of the leutenants and captains going " What is this guy " every time he got up Coz ermmm that sounds funny coming from them considering their powers 😂😂
Give us please the original thousand year blood war!
Clyde: I'll be making another Ichigo video this weekend
Me:Cool
Clyde 2 or 3 weeks later: So yeah fellas
Give us please the original thousand year blood war!
Clyde is going to body the final arc.
Make a video about whether Aizen was preparing Ichigo for Yhwach. Considering Aizen made a powerful race hybrid purposefully at some point knowing that Yhwach is going to come back. And then this hybrid will be trained enough to face him, when Yhwach actually reappears.
Ichigo casually moves faster than light. CASUALLY. In SHIKAI.
Yep
If Ichigo moves faster than light why the fk is he seeing his opponent move when light has not reached his eyes 😂
Wow, crazy how multiple characters moving at the speed of light or higher look slow compared to others. I can barley imagine myself breaking the sound barrier from movement speed
The crazy thing is, the more he trains and fights powerful opponents, his power increases so much. But the Quincy inside of him is suppressing that power, he even suppresses the power he gains by training. The Quincy within Ichigo can suppress most of Ichigo's power, but not all. So with all of his training, even his Banki training, Ichigo is actually much much stronger than people think.
Just imagine if his power wasnt being suppressed this entire time, imagine if he had his full power to draw from during and after his Banki training. I dont think any of the captains would stand a chance against Ichigo at that time, except for maybe the head captain, and probably Zero Squad.
I rewatched the anime too quickly recently, so this is gonna tide me over until the anime returns, thank you very much for this series of yours!
My head cannon will always be that Ichigo got nerfed after Soul Society.
Mostly, because of the badge and he didn't get as strong as he should be until Vasto Lorde form.
50% of Ichigo's spiritual energy was being restricted by Zangetsu and 80% by the badge. His spiritual energy was still that strong,I'm guessing as powerful as Lieutenant, with only 20% + because White was trying to come out. I believe once he mastered Hollowfication was able to use 30- 45% of his own spiritual energy. Vasto Lorde 70% ( mostly Hollow), and Dangai being 70%(mostly Quincy since it looks like a Volksatndig) as well but Final Getsuga being 100%.
I consider Fullbring Shinigami Ichigo as back to his original 50% like Soul Society Arc since his fullbring comes from the badge that was supposed to seal away his power.
However, these are percentages which dont give much in quality but how much of his full potential.
Nobody:
Literally nobody:
Kenpachi: Did I just hear FIGHT TO THE DEATH?!!!???!!??
Give us the original thousand year blood war PLEASE!
Short answer: strong
Long answer: strong AF
Yknow I've gotten so used to such extreme power scaling that I kinda really didn't notice just how strong all these characters were until I actually looked in depth into it.
Just started watching bleach and I'm on this arc and I really like the show
Give us please the original thousand year blood war!
Liked this video for the pure and simple fact that it informed me that Bleach anime is coming back in 2021 lol!
We all know we were hyped when Op.3 played and Ichigo was finna go out.
Give us please the original thousand year blood war!
I’m actually very happy you addressed the Ichigo post soul society topic in this video as well, I was still left sort of indecisive after our debate bc I didn’t mention the SS badge and how they were weakened in the living world but with more context and seeing as grimmjow should’ve been above the byakuya which fought ichigo it makes a lot more sense
Okay this video right here, is FRICKIING EPIC. Keep up the great work, king
Me listening to this in 2022, right after Bleach returned, hearing Clyde say that Bleach will return in 2021.
Morons: "TYBW icHiGo iSNt LiGHtSpeeD, ReeeEEEeeE!!1!"
Early bleach ichigo: *blocks and deflects a lightspeed attack from a menos grande*
TYBW Ichigo: *uh oh, stinky*
What I dislike about these fictional universes is that the characters react and move so fast that it can only be FTL when you analyse it with real physic.
Saihaan Selim the only dumb one,here,is you my friend(and the original commenter)
See, It's impossible,in our universe,for any object to travel at light speed. Only,well,light,can travel at light speed. So for all intents and purposes, Bleach (and every anime ever) exist in a completely different universe from ours,not only in aesthetic terms,but physical as well. Who's to say "light" in the Bleach universe moves at light speed? Because it's not the same laws as our universe. You can say "well they have gravity and light,so that makes it just like our universe" no,no it doesn't, because NO OBJECT can move at light speed,In our universe. It is physically impossible. So when dumb "power scallers" like you and the commenter say stupid things like this,I can't help but laugh
@@bernardocarneiro1982 nice troll my guy
Yes,Serhan,they are not. But that was not my point. No object,in reality,can surpass lightspeed,no object can even get close to light speed,and despite them being shinigami,they have physical properties. Understand what Im saying? That's why when I hear stuff like "oh man he can go 20 times the speed of light" im just like "but this doesn't MEAN anything!" And that's a problem I have with power scalling,in general. It's just stupid. It doesn't make any sense. Because anime, comics,whatever, they don't follow our rules. You understane what Im saying?
In my opinion,power scalling and crossover battles is just a hobby that nerds had that got waaaay out of hand
Another quality video clyde as always
We need a compilation of ichigo almost dying
I think it’s safe to say the Hogyoku had a hand in stopping the fire bird whose name I can’t pronounce. As it manifests the wishes of the user, and Rukia’s wish was to live, it gave her rescuer the power to save her.
how about video on hand to hand combat in Bleach , it's rarely seen and i think it would make for an awesome topic to discuss in depth ?
definitely the best arc of all, so epic
Does this mean that whenever ichigo used his getsuga tensho with the blue guard it was his Quincy side of him
Yes blue is Quincy red is hollow
yes his zanpaktous ability is to release and compress burst of energy. Combine that with Quincy blood(natural ability to absorb, sense, and release reiatsu) and Hollow reiatsu makes it entirely OP.
MillionShadesofDarkness appreciate it bro
Give us please the original thousand year blood war!
Forever brother,u deserve a like
I think the problem is that Kubo only hints at this, but because of the hollow Ichigo tends to hold back or not fight without limits after the SS arc. It really annoys me that in the final arc we only see a small glimps of how strong he is, his calm, controlled spirit power and certainly fighting abilities.
@8:52 "some ppl have a head canon that Ichigo became weaker after soul society arc"
this might be due to a small filler scene which mirrored ichigo's 1st fight with grimm-joe, except this was against some small fry hollow. I think I was implied that Ichigo "couldn't get it up" until his training with visor'd allowed him to sort of check himself
Yet haters would still somehow find Illogical headcanon to downplay Ichigo and Bleach in general. Clyde is doing justice to Bleach.
Give us please the original thousand year blood war!
@@lorddukfoxyzeppeli7921 brother I'm waiting so much for the trailers. I'm also enjoying other mangas and Animes, I'm loving it man. Mangas and anime made my life beautiful.
Thank you for keeping bleach content coming man
Do you think that 90% of the problems in the arcs would have been solved if Ichigo would have just listened to White from the beginning? I wonder how this wouldve changed things.
I would've liked to have seen ichigo bonding a little more his hollow/sword and see him do other shit like that. White could've trained him more hollow techniques
@@ss64vids84 white definitely isnt that type of guy😂
Ainz_ i mean it always looked like white wanted to work with ichigo but ichigo never wanted him to interfere
@@angelgab-8594 White from the beginning was evil. He even said something like "take care of him cause that body will someday be mine." When he fought Kenpachi. Only interest for White was to not let ichigo die cause he would die too tho. So ichigo had no choice but to work with old man.
Give us please the original thousand year blood war!
Great video. That was a heck of a lot of number crunching to back up your points. Impressive.
I would love to see a mugetsu video!
Super interesting video. Can't wait for the next one!!
please do the mugetsu ichigo , that form is the most op thing ive seen in anime so far ...
Bruh one simple blade struggle makes mountains explode.
Great video Clyde, and of course I gotta keep supporting ur channel. It's enjoyable to watch...
I think a scale on Mayuri would be cool. He kinda lives in Kisuke’s shadow, but I always found him to be fascinating
says hand to hand : *proceeds to show ppl fighting with their legs*
Didn't Ichigo get weaker post soul society due to the soul reaper pass he got from the captain of the 13th division
Technically, yes for a bit, but it got broken when he went full hollow against Ulquiora.
Yeah we don't know how much ichigos power gets limited with the pass but maybe it seals off at least half or more of his power?
yeah, and he got further nerfed because zangetsu was coming out (hollow) and he supressed himself more out of fear
Ichigo was constantly nerfed through out the series between the pass, his own powers being imbalance, not even having a
Spoiler
True Zanpakuto to begin with Ichigo, though in the case of the pass I don’t think he was being nerf THAT much only when he was in his body and Ginjo did say it was only when he had the pass on him is when it be restricted. Still, it took a lot of hoops and hurdles for him to get close to his true potential, and I don’t even think we fully saw that in the manga.
I have a theory to why Ichigo was able to block the strongest weapon in the soul society and why everyone was so surprised when he did so.
Nobody had thought to actually try to block the weapon, but all of the captains have the ability to do so but never thought that they would be strong enough to pull it off. After all, I don't that that the Gotei 13 actually expected someone to attempt something so bold. I think they are both surprised at his strength but also the fact that such powerful weapon could be blocked by someone they just met.
So I've been thinking about this for a while. How strong would Ichigo be if he truly mastered all of his abilities? Like, we've seen how normal Shinigami's Zanpakutos grow and develop over time(Renji, Rukia, Yamamoto's bankai, Hitsugaya), so would Zangetsu do the same now his power isn't being suppressed? Also, we know his Vasto Lorde form could use Arrancar techniques like Donido and Hierro, so would he eventually be able to learn all the basic hollow abilities and use them at will? Then there's all the Quincy abilities. We know he's physically capable of using Blut Vein, so there's no reason he couldn't use all of the other standard Quincy techniques. Now, say all of that is true, could he mix and match them? Like, use Blut Artery while having a Hierro? I just think his potential to combine all of these abilities is staggering.
Ichigo was so strong he was given a badge to suppress his op power. Monitoring his power was probably a full time job for the Research and Development Department.
Bleach 2021 let's GO!!!
I always saw the Sokyoku feat as the first attack powerful enough to be able to only vaporize Rukia's soul, which was blocked by Ichigo. Then we see the Sokyoku coming in for another attack this time being powerful enough to vaporize the thing that stopped it in its tracks
It's all just headcanon I know but I really can't see the Sokyoku, something that even the captains were freaked out about being that weak