WATCH this video BEFORE you take your MSF course! (Motorcycle Safety Foundation Class) GUIDE TO PASS
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- Опубліковано 16 жов 2023
- MSF Class walkthrough, know what to expect when taking your MSF course. This video can be used as a guide to help you pass your course and earn your motorcycle license. Follow me as I take the class to earn a perfect score and receive my motorcycle license. Familiarize yourself with a motorcycle and its controls. You can practice these exercises before you take your course to better your chances at passing. The things you will need for the course/class are long jeans with no holes/tears, full fingered gloves, safety glasses, long sleeved shirt, and a DOT approved motorcycle helmet. If you don't have a helmet one may be provided for you, depending on where you take your class. The motorcycles were provided by Harley Davidson Riding Academy. GOOD LUCK!!!
Use code 2024NEWRIDER75 to get 75 dollars off when you take your course at any HD Riding Academy. Also if you’re a hog member you get 50 dollars worth of points to use in store.
do you get discount if you bring your own bike?
are you using bikes provided by the class?
is there any in florida so I can use the coupon?
Ive been riding for 5 years and for some reason i enjoy watching videos like this as well as peoples motorcycle journeys
got mine last week on Saturday with 0 knowledge just dont over think it. its worth it
sunday*
Awesome congratulations
Congrats
You dropped her yet? @messypayday
Hah I just finished the course yesterday. Our whole class was way more worried about passing than we needed to be. All 6 of us in the class scored perfect on the the skills and written test. 😂
My first car was a motorcycle.
Once you get your motorcycle license, never let it lapse, I’ve had mine for nearly 3 decades.
What causes you to lose it, not registering a bike for a few years?
@@JustaGSXR No bike registration needed, just have to renew motorcycle license at same time car license and paying the $36 extra.
In the old days there seemed to be other hurdles, possibly having to go into DMV for renewal separate from regular drivers license and tickets issues. Many people I know that had their M1 in the late 80s to early 2000s let them lapse permanently when they were bike-less.
A few of us always keep them up to date and still ride
U got your motorcycle license first than car license
Agreed
The endorsement for MC never goes away here in CA.... One of the only things smart here.
These are great classes. I highly recommend them. It's a very convenient way to get your motorcycle license.👍🏽
Yes I agree. I’ve been riding for a few years and I still learned more about riding. More about areas where I lacked practice. I’d recommend the class to anyone who rides motorcycles. I’m going back to take the advanced rider course with my own motorcycle soon.
@cruisermike Good luck. Keep learning and spreading the good news about safe, responsible riding.✌🏾
Would yall recommend the dmv or the msf course ?
@phillippeharris5557 New York DMV doesn't provide classes for cars and motorcycles. You'd have to practice on your own, take the classroom safety class on your own, and then make an appointment to take the "road test" in front of a DMV Evaluator, (DMV doesn't provide the bike).
MSF provides the classroom instruction, riding practice, and the bike, and you take the "road test" in front of your MSF Instructor. Once successfully completed, you'll get a card to present to DMV, and your motorcycle permit will be upgraded to a full motorcycle license. MSF all the way.✌🏾
@@marsoelflaco5722 thanks so much for your feedback definitely taking the class
This video helped me so much. Pretty much exactly like my class from a few weeks ago. Thank you for sharing this man.
This is such a great video to see, especially since when I took the class it was at a HD dealership in Wyoming and we only had two of the HD bikes used here. Great stuff to see especially since riding season is getting closer every day up here in Wyoming
Cool, thanks for posting. I'm a motorcycle instructor in London, UK, and its always nice to see how the process works in other countries 😀
Apperently this video shows a half baked class
Great video!!
Your funny buddy riding your bike to the course to learn how to ride your bike. It remind me of myself and my freida all going up to take our test all meeting at Tim Horton getting high and going for our test. It was an interesting morning for sure. Good luck.
Badass video had a lot of useful information 🤙🏽
Thanks for the support. If you have any questions about the class feel free to ask.
I've ridden for years... a 6'.8" long chopper.....not sure I could make those turns. I also never took the test. I just sold my bike. buying a sport bike.....its time to take the test. This was a great video.....thanks
I'm sure glad you are finally getting a licence. That's nice.
Thanks man got class this weekend and didn’t know what to expect..
howd it go?
@@thiccwasowski2400I had class a couple hours ago. First time ever riding bro and I got the hang of it stalled 3 times but after that I was good shifting downshifting
@@snagzz7635 damn dude thats awesome 👏 congrats man
@@thiccwasowski2400 thank you brother I passed the skills test today aswell. Just need to take my dmv 30 question test and I’m set
This brought me back a little ptsd from doing the course, but was one of the best decisions I made. 16 years later I still use what I learned in these drills.
Haha same! I remember my last day, the hours of drills right before the test... the anxiety was real. Passed on my first try. Thank god, not something I want to do again.
Thanks for sharing, getting ready for this weekend wish me luck
GOOD LUCK!! Don’t overthink it just do it. There’s a movie that has some good information called “A twist of the wrist”. It’s an older movie about motorcycles but is still relevant to motorcycles riders today. Check it out if you have the time. Be sure to like and subscribe, I have more videos coming out soon.
Thank you for the time you took to make this video . Going to school April 6.
How’d it go?
For anyone watching this. I just took the course last weekend. It’s not hard and it really builds your basics as a rider. I’d never been on a bike before and had not a single issue with the class. The only thing you would have to do on your own time is practice throttle control and shifting especially if you’ve never driven a manual before
The 500cc v-twins Harley provides are a great bike to learn on. 1st and 2nd gear are speed-throttled and they are low enough to flat foot. It's good to get experience with a 'heavier' bike at low speeds and duck walking. This is more real world than a 150-300cc bike.
Half of our class already owned bikes, a few seemed like veteran riders and we had maybe 4-5 GREEN riders. Maybe a quarter of the class didn't pass =o Mainly, going outside the slow speed turn and hitting cones or going outside the cone course. The staggered cones were tough - even if you can do them 4 out of 5 times, at the end, you only have the ONE shot. If you did them 50/50 during class, then the pressure was high.
Honestly, I think if you didn't pass this class, you would still have a very good chance at passing the DMV course (if you are old enough to skip MSF entirely). EITHER way, pass or not - it's a great thing to do - especially with HD, these bikes, and the way the class/course is set up. You were in a different city, and things looked very similar to ours. Except our course was built from scratch on property they purchased, and we had a real toilet. woot
High speed breaking - be sure to get enough speed in second and downshift during the stop to end up in 1st. You'll have to do it again if you didn't go fast enough. I don't know if there's points lost for doing it multiple times but def get into 1st gear, they want you to pull away after stopping.
One of the BIGGEST things they focus on, and you'll see this in many videos, is - Keep your head and eyes UP and TURN THAT HEAD when you turn the bike. They want your helmet INTO your shoulder if possible - and use your peripheral vision. If you LOOK and turn your head like a professional, it will help your riding immensely. The bike goes where your EYES go. They HAMMER it constantly - so do it. They will wave constantly - HELLOOOO!! - UP HERE - WHY did you hit that cone you were LOOKING at?? - HELLOO! pretty funny actually, but get those eyes UP.
Thanks for the vid - good to 're-experience' the class - I only got 1 picture with the bikes lined up and can send people with questions to your video. Your hard-ass instructors got down to business!
Thanks for the support and input. I’m glad you can reference my video to others. Thanks
That $100 falling out of his pocket was nuts
Im taking the MSF class next monday and mad nervous. Never been on a motorcycle before but always wanted to learn since my dad got one a long time ago. Nervous but excited
Any update ? How was it? How did you do? Was it what you expected?
Why not use a megaphone or something to be able to hear over motors?
Thanks for sharing. I go to my classes this weekend, and I’ve never really rode.
Me too! I’ve got my classes this weekend, I’ve never rode a motorcycle and I’ve been trying to watch any and all videos possible to learn as much as I can
@@nickbrockman5753 hell yeah Im doing the same. Watching all the vids I can and have my riding classes at the end of this month. Good luck to yall
@@nickbrockman5753 howd it go?
@@anthonywills2691 I passed! :) There were 11 of us total, 1 lady got pointed out due to too many stalls on the skills test, but 10 of us passed! Got my new bike today, gotta get used to the clutch tho
@@nickbrockman5753 Thats awesome! im looking at taking the course ive never ridden a motorcycle. What bike did you get?
Im looking at the z500
Great video. Day 1 is tomorrow for me!
Good luck!!
@@cruisermike passed!
Would you be willing to elaborate on your experience? Did you just pass, or pass really well? Was it fun? Did you have any problems? Did you meet anyone you're still in touch with? @@MrEmt703
taking mine in 2 weeks!
@@4mom29passed?
Like and subscribe. More videos coming out soon. Feel free ask to any questions about the class. GOOD LUCK!!!
Did they provide the bike for you ?
Cool video.
Thanks for the support. More videos will be coming out soon. Be sure to like and subscribe
I'll be taking the CMSP with Harley Riverside before the year is up, cool to see the class in action!
@@jav13r909how was it
@@BunkGarage I'm still riding with my permit, it's good until July, I feel I need more slow turning practice and street practice. I want to make sure I'm good before paying 425 for the class.
This was super helpful! Taking my class this weekend💪🏾 thanks bro
Good luck. Let me know how it goes
@@cruisermike passed the class, need to work on my turns and holding the throttle but it was super fun. I can’t wait to get my bike.
@@AveryGSX750congrats bro I have my course this upcoming Tuesday/Wednesday, but I already bought my Indian scout rogue to practice on my own time after work for an hour since I got no friends who got bikes.
@@BunkGarage that class was so helpful bro you will enjoy it! An you already have a bike! That’s so dope! I just got my M1 endorsement today so I’m going to sit on a few bikes I can’t wait!!
I’m taking this exact course through the exact dealership this weekend 😂
I was wondering where this is. It looks like Florida. What dealership are you taking it at?
@@user-is1ke5vm9r San Antonio. Teddy Morse’s Harley dealership
I rewatched the first part of the video and heard him mention the horse track, so it must be outside of San Antonio, right? Sort of flat like Florida, so that's the reason for the similar looks! lol I love San Antonio and the countryside around it! Enjoy the course!
Exercise 1 is motorcycle familiarization, this is exercise 2 part 2 and part 3 at the beginning of the video
Smart man to get that license 0:43
MSF course is free in Pennsylvania 😁nice video brought back some memories I remember the peanut one lol, ride safe ✌
If I’m from another state could I go to there for the free course?
Sadly no maybe if you move here and change your license over to Pa then move back lol.
I love that shirt Coach ...where could I get 1?
Great video. Interesting how you didn't get scored a point on the stall.
Yea it’s weird how they do the scoring. No points for a stall, but if you stall 3 times you fail the skills test.
I'm 68 and wear trifocals. I can see fine, but them parkin' lot zits are gonna be hard to see. 6" or so cones would be easier to spot quickly? Gotta finish the mods on my '18 V Star 250 to practice more before the MSF at LCCC they have now.
If you can't get in the free class by your state, these are a good option
Nice video subded
Have my class next weekend with my local harley and I am very nervous (I have no experience) any suggestions that will help me in the class
You seem like a cool ass dude man
What did they say when you showed up on a bike? In Rhode Island they say they will auto fail you if someone shows up on a motorcycle already.
Hey guys, at about minute 13:25 (following the guy with blue shirt - Day 1 Accekeration/Breaking), the rider slowed down and the instructor says something about, "Fingers", but I couldn't make it out. Does anyone know what he said or was talking about? Thanks, great video!
He was telling the rider to use all fingers to squeeze the levers.
I can’t see those small cones on the ground. I hope they don’t have those little cones when I take my MFS class.
I’m not sure if they will use the small cones in your class. It just depends on where you take the class. The cones are small but you should be able to see them as you get near them. Let me know if they used cones that small in your course. Good luck!
My class used the same cones, they are easier to see in person than on camera.
@@cruisermike
They used small cones when I took my class but it’s easy once your there. It’s not that bad you can see the cone.
Hi! Thanx for this upload.
Watching it just before I start my first motorcycle lessons. Got questions though…
- Can you ride a motorcycle in the USA without a motorcycle license? 😱
- Is this MSF course the only thing you have to do and pass to get your license?
I am from across the pond (Netherlands) and we have to complete a pretty extensive training, 2 practical and 1 theoretical exam for a motorcycle license. Even if you already have drivers license for a car.
The class is 3 days long. 1 classroom day with a written test and 2 field days on the motorcycle the third day is the test day. No you’re not supposed to ride without a motorcycle license. They don’t ask you for a license when purchasing a motorcycle so you’d be surprised how many people don’t have a motorcycle license.
Is getting a zx10r for my first motorcycle a good idea? 🤔
this is to easy, is the skills test at the DMV as easy? i dont want to wait months to get into an MSF course if i can just go do this for someone at the DMV and be good to go
i her that u can take the skills written test at home now they send u the info and gotta watch a 5 hr video or 3 hr and thin u go to the school for a 2 day class?
lol kept hitting him with the bud
Yea there were more of those that I cut out lol. Thanks for watching. Be sure to like and subscribe, more videos will be coming out soon.
Is that retama park i took my msf there last weekend
Yes it is I took the class a few weeks ago.
I went to my msf course this past weekend and i never had been on a motorcycle before, and after an hour struggling to find the friction zone and just as i was getting the hang of it i was asked to leave. I told them a few times it was ny very first time. I thought this course was to learn, i was shocked and discouraged being i had no way of practicing beforehand. And i have to pay even more money? I barely got an hour of time to learn on an actual motorcycle
That’s fucked up
Yeah I started the free msf course in my state years ago. I took the classroom portion and got a perfect score. When I told them I had never ridden a motorcycle before, I was advised to not take the riding portions of the class. They said it was “technically” for beginners, but if I’d never ridden before, it would probably be too advanced. I couldn’t believe it. I never went back.
@@TheTangTamer how tf are you supposed to ever learn 😂
Question should I buy my bike and practice as I've never rode before or just take this class first?
Whichever way you want to go is fine. There were people who never rode before and they were able to pass the course. I had been riding for a few years before I took the course. If you like a certain bike and can get a good deal then go ahead and buy it. I would recommend the course because you wouldn’t want to drop your bike when learning to ride/practice.
Do the course and get your licence first. You don't know what you don't know so, have the discipline to at least get a basic understanding before exposing yourself to road realities and others to your lack of knowledge and skill.
Buy a small and manageable bike at first. Learn the skills and earn the right to take on the bigger bikes.
I didn’t take the motorcycle course I did the road test throw dmv because I had two people who been ridding there hole life teach me everything
I would’ve liked to take the test at the dmv but Texas requires us to take the MSF Course. I could’ve saved some time by testing out but I had to take the 3 day course instead. It’s ok because I enjoy riding and I had fun riding another motorcycle.
@@cruisermike in Texas they make you take the course what the hell that just stupid ya I live upstate New York they have courses but am like am not going waste 300 for stuff I can learn from buddy’s. Other thing you paying to pass most the time less you really suck because my one buddy did the course he said there was girl there that crash she still pass I heard other stories about the same thing. Ya am on this group for where I live for motorcycle few people said am stupid to not do the course other thing I said it be waste for me one person took it wrong way and thought I was saying the course is waste of money for everyone when that not true I was trying to say it was waste of money for me. I took my road test 3 months ago but I road on my permit for 5 years. A lot by myself because I don’t live in big town so if you ride smart cops don’t brother you and a lot of cops here rides too.
@@johnyshirley3859 jesus 😂 this was a hard read brother
@@dacoldesttaevadoit8993 dude I don’t evening remember this video or putting a comment lol.
@@johnyshirley3859 must’ve been DRUNK 🤣
Is the instructor with the orange shirt missing a leg?? And is it from a motorcycle accident??
He is, but it is from serving our country... because he's a badass. Source: He was my instructor too :)
We’re are y’all located
Just a question, Im a 19 year old and i realized that i need this in order to get my permit. Hypothetically if I fail, would i have to pay another 400 dollars to try again or would i have to just reschedule another time. I wouldnt be worry about failing tho as i do ride motorcross and have an understanding of a motorcycle and how it operates only difference would be weight and power. If you could get back to me i would very much appreciate it
I live in Texas and I took my msf course but I failed, never been on a bike before, ever. The place I went to just charged a small fee to reschedule. Call the place you’re looking at and ask them their policy honestly
I only need a m class to ride a scooter...do i have to use a motorcycle?
I would recommend getting an unrestricted class M endorsement because it’s very possible you may like it a lot and want to upgrade to a motorcycle. If not I believe they do special classes for it varies by state though.
Is this all you have to do in USA, to get a motorcycle license??
Don’t you learn to swerve or make emergency stops and all the other stuff?
Yes. The vast majority of license classes in the US are MSF BRCu. There are exercises for swerving and quick stop but the total course is about 11 hours on the bike plus some classroom time. It's better than having no class requirement but you can't turn out riders like in countries where they have tiered and graduated licensing requirements.
Do you down shift before you break ( come to a stop) or after?
I downshift as I’m slowing down to a stop. I like to downshift to engine brake as needed for slowing down to make a turn and coming to a stop.
You were allowed to drive your bike to the course? I’m in Canada, and the only way you could use your own bike was to haul it in or have someone with a license drive it in.
But you can drive your moto with M1(which is just the written test). But in Ontario the M1 exit course I don't think they allow with our own motorcycle. You have to use the course motorcycle.
Right, some do have their learners before taking the safety course. Ignore my silly comment please!
Anyone know if daca people can get motorcycle license
Did you not have issues getting you motorcycle registered and insured with no M license?
No I didn’t have an issue with it. They will sell anyone a motorcycle in Texas. You’d be surprised how many people don’t have a motorcycle license and own motorcycles sometimes multiple ones
I want to do this but id get so confused
Funny how beginners course for safe riding, like changing lanes….is on a bike with NO MIRRORS 😂 FOLLOW BY instructors voice in riders thoughts when changing lanes on a bike with no mirrors having to shoulder check….look where you want the bike to go😂
The mirrors are removed so that they can’t be broken when the bikes are dropped. Also I always head check whenever switching lanes because all mirrors have blind spots.
youre allowed to drive without license over there? here in norway, if i wanted to drive with my own bike i would have to transport it on a trailer to the school
It’s only illegal if you get caught
Great advice @@cruisermike
Some states in the US allow you to ride with just the written temporary test with some minor restrictions. Where I live, that is the case. With your Temps and for the 1st year you are licensed, you must wear a helmet, No passenger, no riding in the dark.
@@amanda1500 Yes... but you cannot ride to the actual course lol
@@jacobg6528 not in Ohio, unless it's changed since I began riding.
Do they provide helmet or u need ur own
They provide a helmet for you if needed. You can also bring your own helmet if you want it needs to be DOT approved.
are you using bikes provided by the class?
Yes the bike are provided by the class
Skills test is easier than the knowledge test, anybody else agree?
100%. So many fail the written M1 test, secret is get to DMV early on test day and read the M1 pamphlet in the parking lot cover to cover.
100%. Many fail the M1 written test, secret is get to DMV early on test day and read the M1 study guide pamphlet cover to cover
@@coastalhillbilly3419 I had to retake the written test a couple times even though it was only 25 questions, i struggled because they worded things terribly in my opinion, but the skills test i passed no trouble.
If you search it on yt there was a video uploaded 3 years ago, it has the exact questions if your in california took the test last week failed but I remembered all the questions and found a video with the exact cheatsheet
ua-cam.com/video/39QvNwoWBeg/v-deo.htmlsi=A3C9Pe_pkCxHp-NP
That brotha really took your money and tried to play it off as if it was his lmao
Any training can be beneficial if done correctly. I only question one technique these instructors are not correcting…. At speed under 20 mph, especially in this controlled environment, these riders should be engaging rear brake NO front brake, especially in the turn portions of the training. Grab that front brake at low speed even at normal pressure and you can almost certainly guarantee going down at some point…. As soon as they’re done duck walking the instructors should be stressing REAR BRAKE!!!!!!!!! until higher speed exercises are introduced!!!!!!! OMG I made that comment not watching the video in it’s entirety…. Honestly this training is almost contradictory to everything I was taught…. When making turns the rider was backing out of the throttle….. ABSOLUTELY INCORRECT!!!!!!! When in a turn you must be in the throttle or accelerating…. The only thing I’ve heard the instructors saying that I totally agree with is turning their heads to look where they’re going. Sorry but honestly this is very poor instruction….. at least from what I was taught. If you read this and wish to see what I am speaking of watch the instructional videos from the former Law Enforcement Member in Florida…. His instructions are the same we received up North and are tested and true!!!!! Lots of turning not stressing leaning the motorcycle…. This is a matter of safety not preference….. Sorry but I’m being honest in observation…..
I was using the back brake but instructors were asking me use the front brakes. I started on dirt bikes and would mostly use the back brakes on the dirt. Idk why they would be pushing us to use the front brake when at slow speeds but I didn’t listen to them anyway.
@@cruisermike I by no means was looking to insult anyone or cause any trouble however, this is a topic near and dear to me…. On a low speed course conducting maneuvers to gain confidence turning in these type of configurations,it’s a combination of throttle, clutch and rear braking that is key. If you were to attempt to come to a low speed stop turning and engage the front not rear brake ……. you’ll almost certainly go down. Practice is great but I completely disagree with any lesson avoiding the rear brake at lower speeds. I also didn’t hear or see anyone going in and out of the throttle with clutch control to maneuver….. these fundamentals were stressed upon us when learning these types of courses…. The Shamrock, Snowman, Clover etc….. Also the brake and escape exercise….. they should have been instructing the riders to downshift as well as engaging both brakes so you can immediately escape the danger instead of stalling…. This was another skill we were taught completely contradictory to what I was watching!!!!!! We did those courses on fully dressed Road Kings…. Using clutch, throttle and braking, you’d be amazed how nimble that big wheel can be!!!! Either way please ride safe and enjoy….. getting out on the road is always a great feeling…
seems odd that they make you use a rental bike instead of what your comfortable on?
There’s pros and cons to it. Pros are you don’t have to worry about damaging your personal bike. You get to ride another bike and see how it handles, every bike is different. Cons are that you’re out of your comfort zone when riding a new bike. However it doesn’t take long to get used to a new bike depending on your experience, it only took me about an hour. I was scraping pegs on the turns pushing the bike to its limits.
Every bikes is different the technics the same for all bikes
Exact questions to the dmv m1 permit test in California:
ua-cam.com/video/39QvNwoWBeg/v-deo.htmlsi=A3C9Pe_pkCxHp-NP
looks like those paints on their paths are no longer visible.too faded
How much are they charging for the class these days?
The class is $249 for the full class. If you buy a motorcycle from the dealer they include the class with the purchase. If you are a part of the local HOG Chapter the class is $100. You can visit Alamo Harley Davidson for more details, tell them I sent you over.
@@cruisermike Thanks. Appreciate it.
It depends on where you live! In California it cost me $425
I recently signed up in NY for $398. It's an online course plus 2 days on the bike.
It was 235 with teddy Morse Harley Davidson
If you’re in traffic and it’s stop and go? Cease all distractions. You’re music, phone calls etc. pay very close attention to the vehicles around you because people will slam on their brakes and swerve into your lane. Practice practice practice harsh braking
The dude has no feet 😮
Mostly do not care about MSF class because I was rip off $256 dollars off balance a motorcycle because I wear knee braces and heavy for my knees and I report them DMV too !! Next time I going to can-am class its better because do not have put down feet walk a bike!
It’s a good class for people who are able to ride on two wheels. If you go with the can am three wheeled motorcycle class you might end up with a restricted motorcycle license. Anyhow thanks for your input.
You are riding way too close to the vehicle in front of you, in the beginning of this video. i think you surely need the MSF.
lmfao!LoL
Not smart dude. You're riding a motorcycle without a license for two years and you're making a video about it. All the police have to do is contact UA-cam for your infomation and you're caught.
Kinda dumb to film yourself riding before you have your endorsement. You automatically fail in my state if you get caught riding to class
Some states allow you to ride with just Temps with a couple restrictions that remain until you have your license for 1 year. No passengers, must wear helmet, no driving after dusk (in the dark).
It should be that if you showed up to training riding a motorcycle and didn’t have the proper license to operate the bike, they should ban you from ever taking their course. You can’t fix stupid. Let him ride without a license, he been doing it all along. Law breaker. Privileged offender.
Are you having a bad day?
In the state I live in, you can ride with Temps without taking any courses.
lol ur not even supposed to be allowed to drive to the safety course without a licensed driver with you lol no way you should be allowed to pass
In the state I live, you can ride alone with just your Temps with minor restrictions.
That was definitely not his $100 lol
Do you ever upshift? Or do they want you just staying in first gear?
Any training can be beneficial if done correctly. I only question one technique these instructors are not correcting…. At speed under 20 mph, especially in this controlled environment, these riders should be engaging rear brake NO front brake, especially in the turn portions of the training. Grab that front brake at low speed even at normal pressure and you can almost certainly guarantee going down at some point…. As soon as they’re done duck walking the instructors should be stressing REAR BRAKE!!!!!!!!! until higher speed exercises are introduced!!!!!!! OMG I made that comment not watching the video in it’s entirety…. Honestly this training is almost contradictory to everything I was taught…. When making turns the rider was backing out of the throttle….. ABSOLUTELY INCORRECT!!!!!!! When in a turn you must be in the throttle or accelerating…. The only thing I’ve heard the instructors saying that I totally agree with is turning their heads to look where they’re going. Sorry but honestly this is very poor instruction….. at least from what I was taught. If you read this and wish to see what I am speaking of watch the instructional videos from the former Law Enforcement Member in Florida…. His instructions are the same we received up North and are tested and true!!!!! Lots of turning not stressing leaning the motorcycle…. This is a matter of safety not preference….. Sorry but I’m being honest in observation…..
At what speed does the front brake become safe to use? What is the mechanical event that is happening that causes this change?
With proper training as long as you square the handlebars it’s always safe, squeeze not grab. 70% of stopping power is front brake and then there’s trail braking.