MPC Blade Runner 2049 VFX breakdown
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- Опубліковано 1 січ 2018
- Replicating Rachael for Blade Runner 2049 was both a huge honour for our artists as well as an exciting technical and creative challenge. The team lead by VFX Supervisor Richard Clegg worked closely with Director Denis Villeneuve and Production VFX Supervisor John Nelson.
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I'm deaf, so I read lips when people talk. I knew something was up with Rachel when I saw the shape of her mouth. I thought it was either a de-aging trick used with the now aged Sean Young's acting , or a ton of CGI work on a double. I had no idea that the entire head was CG. Congratulations on fooling me guys !
Thanks for sharing! I hadn't thought about lip-reading as being a giveaway with CGI actors until this.
Funny, i thought i was the only one noticing her lips being the only giveaway of an otherwise great CGI, i think simulating the flesh of the lips as it moves while talking, it's still a challenge for animators
The mouth isn't a sphincter but a ring of overlapping muscles covered in collagen and thinner skin than the face; add to this that the skin in the region is taut enough to pull on the nose. MPC is the leader in 3D reconstruction from photos and 35mm reference material, creating authentic skin maps/lighting, and matchmoving footage of actors like Young and Ramis, but we haven't yet seen extended sequences of talking, collision deforms or other things that require completely rigging the underlying structures of the face.
And to be fair to MPC, studios are unlikely to pay for that level of animation in a cameo. If Ghost Egon's expressions are recycled matchmoves of Harold Ramis clips instead of mocap of Bob Gunton's face (which they were, he only had a handful of landmark dots on his face), who's going to notice?
Same here learned to read lips from a friend of mine who is deaf, this scene felt off to me but my other freind it semed fine.
Man! I’d been trying to guess if this was De-Ageing or Doubling since I saw the movie. You guys effing nailed it, this is the most realistic Digital Double I think has ever been committed to film. It’s beautiful.
We have the same thing on fast & furious 7 !
See Gladiator for a better example.
Digital double
No. "Gladiator" is original Reed's footage
The most realistic CGI character in VFX history. MPC - you’re incredible!
*"Her eyes were green."*
Jeremy Brunson
Her green were eyes
Blade Runner 2049 is probably the best CGI & VFX in 2017. I don't felt any "uncanny valley" motions at all from Rachael.
Logan had better CGI than any movie I’ve seen
than you both havent seen Planet of the Apes
@@justrandom5012 not saying winning award = better but Blade Runner did beat Planet of Apes in Oscar Best Visual Effect award.
This somber music makes this video even better
It's so close that you can feel almost the breath. Weta and MPC both doing groundbreaking work on a regular basis. I am speechless how far CGI had become in the last few years thanks to all those individuals that put all their sweat and blood in it. Thanks to all girls and guys @mpc!
Holy shit MPC is killing it lately. Terminator Genisys, godzilla, the jungle book. I dare say they're close to surpassing Industrial Light and magic. Their tarkin was good but this is just incredible, they're ahead of their time.
Extremely beautiful recreation of the ever gorgeous Sean Young
Do CGI Character Dream of Electric Sheep?
This is Oscar worthy
So much better than Leia in Rogue One
ketchupkatsup dude, they have Vader so who cares
That floored me in how incredible it looked.
Always a pleasure to see team-works on the screen! Excellent work to everyone!
Fantastic work. Was amazing seeing this.
I thought it was real initially until you started going into the details of how you accomplish it. Absolutely crazy how realistic it looks well done!
This made Tarkin and Leia look like badly made sock puppets. Truly amazing!
Amazing work you guys. No one is better in the industry. Period.
Couldn’t tell the difference between the digital double / original movie. Utterly incredible work. I think knowing that it’s not her really in the new movie, makes it hard for us to believe it’s her anyway, but the CGI pretty much fooled me.
Stunning
Recreating exact facial structure is not a problem with today's technologies. I have seen many CGI faces over the years but one thing they lack is real eye movements. But this digital Rachael got the best eye movements I have ever seen. Makers of the film Avatar also done a great job on realistic eye movements.
Wicked awesome VFX!
Wow! Beautiful! Amazing.
Simply stunning
this is beyond amazing
this idea with digital double is great compliment to movie itself and it was great achieved)
Good stuff! Loved this movie.
They totally screwed up. They got her eyes color wrong.
That's a joke.
Che emozione! Che capolavoro questo BR2049! Fantastico.
Astounding
most impressive and believable recreation EVER.
Art. Congratulations
STUNNING! I had no idea that wasn't an actor!
this is brutal! just wow!
Oscars, here comes the VFX category winner! And hopefully best cinematography as well.
Give it 20 years and I bet they will be able to take photographs of my great grandmother as an 18 year old and create a 3D simulation of her, walking, talking, smiling etc.
That's still unlikely even in 20 years. Because no matter how good technology gets we still need enough data to generate a convincing 3d model of someone. One image is just not enough data. With one image youll have to interpolate a lot of data so it might look convincing from a certain angle but not most of the time.
Amazing!
Impressive!!
The last movie I saw with a similar CGI de-aged face was Jeff Bridges in Tron Legacy (2010), but this is leagues better.
IMPRESSIVE.
Far times better than General Tarkin from Rouge One, that's for sure. Absolutely stunning.
amazing, I must admit that I had no idea this was cgi when I watched it at the cinema, I have no idea why as I usually hate out of place CGI, but this one was well done, I was planning to watch the movie again in a couple days, and I'm not sure I would have noticed it if it wasn't for this video, while the face animation is not perfect, this is amazing, best CGI use I've ever seen, no doubt
100%.Great job
I thought that was a real actress when I saw the movie, and I'm only now seeing that it was CGI. This is awesome, thanks for the vid.
Magnifique 😍
This is so many times better than what they did in Rogue one. This movie had moments where I couldn't see the CGI. Usually that only happens when it's in the background but here it was in the very foreground
WITHIN
IN
CELLS
INTERLINKED.
It's her lip movement at 2:34 that feels slightly off. Naturally, your average person in the cinema wouldn't have noticed that. Still incredibly well made.
Excellent motion capture. Please tell me the softwares you guys are using
When I saw this scene in the cinema, my eyes filled with tears, I didn't know how they did it, but they did it 🙌😎❤ // Cuando vi esta escena en el cine, mis ojos se llenaron de lagrimas, no sabia como lo habían logrado, pero lo habían hecho 🙌😎❤
This scene works because she doesn't look 100% right. She seems a tiny bit off and that's the whole point of the scene. No one can ever replace the real Rachel
A good meta reasoning to explain away the uncanny valley in-universe but prooooobably not what they were going for.
I haven't seen the film but I think that totally works!
MPC the name of POWER
Poor Sean Young, they perfectly recreated her sad, dead eyes in CGI.
oh~cool
Still to this day the only non uncanny valley full cgi human in a movie alongside Logan
how did you get the original actress's skull? did she do an MRI? did you do a reverse forensic face sculpt where you used skin thickness and the like to determine the bone structure beneath?
I want a tutorial on this because i see these skeleton effects in films like GotGvol2's Ego rebuilding his body and the exposed endoskeleton of the 2015 Terminator and i doubt they just stuffed generic assets into their digital doubles there has to be a process that makes the digitally added bone structure anatomically match the source mesh if i make sense.
MPC’s team started off with a detailed present-day scan of Sean Young’s head, captured on the ICT Light stage. This scan was used as a reference for MPC’s artists to hand model an anatomically accurate 3D skull. The skull is something that changes very little over time, so it was a good foundation for MPC to build their 20-year-old digital Rachael from. The digital sculpt gave the team a clear idea of the proportions of her head including the bridge of nose, cheekbones and jaw line.
With the CG skull accurately recreated, it was lined it up against scenes from the original 1982 movie. The available footage of Rachael wasn't always ideal, due to the dark and contrasty lighting with a shallow depth of field that regularly put her in soft focus so a great deal of guess work was required. MPC’s 3D modeling artists then spent many hours sculpting the rest of the head over these images until they had created an identical match.
ah, so the latter. what was the sculpting process if I may ask? I saw amateur and low accuracy concept work where they take a premade asset like a 3d scanned anatomy model and roughly fit it into the head with some minor squashing and stretching. for the accuracy here I assume your artists used more accurate techniques. I wanna guess they used did a reverse forensic facial reconstruction. regular construction starts with a skull and using pegs to denote skin and muscle thickness literally flesh out the skull into a face. I wanna say they used similar flesh pegs but going inward towards the model and fitting a pre-made skull to those pegs if I make sense.
you peopel do amazing work and i would love to learn how you do it all :)
btw your artists are true artists since you managed to get the likeness as accurate as the 80s Arnie from Terminator Genisys if not more so while using way fewer data. they had an old lifecast from the first film to work off of but as you say you only had the present day actress and footage that was mostly shadow and yet you cross the uncanny valley! literally thought that was a lookalike!
No doubt: this is fantastic work. The problem is just that we humans are so darn good at reading the tiniest facial expressions. When she talks and shows expression, no matter how subtle, it looks like she is morphing into many different faces. Not to belittle the painstaking work that went into it. But: not there yet. Still inside uncanny valley.
truefilm first viewing I didn't catch it neither the second by the third for me the lip movement was noticeable
Its a long steep climb out of the uncanny valley but we are approaching the peak for sure
Very true(film). Tarkin in Rogue One was similarly good, but still imperfect. There were times where I was almost fooled by Grand Moff, but those microexpressions are still missing from these VFX.
The mouth is soooo hard to perfect, the interaction when the lips converge is always something I notice, like the meshes are slightly clipping into each other on collision.
It actually isn't the fault of the CGI. The problem is that we _know_ it's not real, so we automatically look for faults instead of taking it for what it is. If we didn't know that this is an actor who has aged like 30 years, we wouldn't realize it's CGI. Same thing with Tarkin from Rogue One, it looked CGI to me because I knew the actor is dead, but my girlfriend did not, so she just treated him like any other actor in the film, and afterwards didn't even realize he was all CGI. If we know beforehand that something isn't real, it will never look real, no matter how good the CGI is.
Ask yourself this question: if you didn't know anything about Blade Runner going in, would you have still questioned the reality of this scene?
Hi MPC! Awesome CG work! At 1:28 the music is really amazing. I'd love to chill to it. Could you let us know what it is called and by who? If it is an in-house piece it would be nice to know. Thank you for sharing.
did you find it ?
@@chetanwalia9598 No. :(
that scene !! "Her eyes were green." *_*
Does anyone know what's the music in the background? I love it!
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Did your work on Arnie's digital double help you get this job?
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+mpcvfx, a practical question: Forgive my ignorance, but if you had access to Sean Young why not use her for your canvas as opposed to a performance double?
Enough time has passed that 'de-aging' was probably harder than a full digital recreation (although GotG's de-aged Kurt Russell was fantastic), and since they'd need someone with a younger voice as well I don't imagine you really get a benefit. It's also possible they need someone with a different physique as well, I've not seen what Sean Young looks like these days but it is also possible she now may not be the right weight etc for the rest of the body to pass convincingly.
Likely because a performance double is less expensive
Looks amazing and just looking at static picture without motion it's not possible to see the difference between real and CGI. However animation still looks uncanny.
Want more breakdown of BR2049
Dear MPC: Is it too late to fix Henry Cavill's Mustache?
The reason this looks better than Leia in Rogue One is because it's technically still Sean Young playing her through facial motion capture and de-aging, it gives sense of realism, while Leia's actress wasn't involved in the production of RO at all
I'm curious how many people without any cues to otherwise suggest it would genuinely be able to tell this was CGI? You know that there isn't a spare twenty year old Sean Young clone just sitting in the closet, so your brain automatically starts trying to solve the equation. But what if it was just Random Bob that had a CGI face, and you had no reason to think he wasn't real? I wonder what percent of us would spot him?
(for the record, I certainly couldn't tell she was CGI when I saw this in theatres. :] )
Wow
Oscar!
I love this music, what is this music called?
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It's Blade Runner 2049s "main theme". It's all over youtube if you type that in :)
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Really impressive.
Side note: Sean doesn't look Young anymore.
What is the need for digital double in that shot
Can anyone tell me name of the song used in background?
Its the Original Theme from Blade Runner
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pleass tell whats the song ^????
what's the music pls?
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When I saw the film I didn't realize she was CG actually. Although me and my wife commented: Is she Sean Young? She looks odd. Where is the beauty and subtle charm she used to have? It's a pretty awsome work anyway.
At 0:33 it already is evident we are looking at a smooth, slightly stiff CGI face. The effect oddly enough is pronounced for me on lower res footage, I had the same impression eg. with Avatar, Tarkin etc. This seems to indicate something about the motion design in the face is off (eyes, expression). In the cinema she looked better than Tarkin (or Leyla), but the eyes seemed a bit too dry and lacked some glow. Facial animations in CGI faces always seem somewhat floaty, a touch too slow, or a certain expression played out just a bit too much ... going the Lola route with de-aging the real actress might have been the better way to go. This work certainly was good enough for an unknown actress the audience hadn‘t seen yet, in a scene with less demanding and subtle emotional acting in it - it was a tough assignment to pull off and certainly not Benjamin Button terrible :)
Her eyes were green😊
The skin looks smoother than it should be, could be the scaling and post processing, because it looks better on the stills and the test footage. The lighting is ... rather unusual (in the scene, I'm talking about the film scene only), kind of forces the yellows, and that prevalence of yellow makes it look quite dead and flat. Look at the stills from the original Blade Runner and notice how color rich they are, you can pretty much see all sorts of colors on the skin, even in the shadow. The digital double also looks way better under the similar conditions, so I blame the scene for a very weird looking skin tone. E.g. the model itself is pretty much ideal, with just one, but still crucial issue. The eyes. They're misaligned. She couldn't look straight if she wanted to. Look closer, you cannot unsee it. And there is still a fundamental problem with the eyes rendering, but I wouldn't force it upon the VFX guys, because it's clear that we don't have the technology yet. The CGI eyes just don't look real, period. Maybe it's the moisture that doesn't get rendered properly, maybe a complex layered substance of the eye itself, hard to say. The renders might look fine on their own, but whenever a real actor is placed nearby the effect is gone, and the eyes look dead. People also noticed the animation, but that's an entirely different subject, and the animations are rapidly evolving. The eyes are not though, and I don't believe the uncanny valley could be crossed without that getting fixed. Still, a very impressive double. Especially the stills and the test footage, too bad we didn't get those on the big screen.
Is this Einhorn or Finkle? ;)
They should of uses your services for Superman in Justice League. Would of been 10x better.
they have worked on it
It’s ‘have’, not ‘of’.
We have entered the Uncanny Valley. there is a convenience store half way thru, good luck trying to tell if the clerk is actually human or not???
АХУЕТЬ !!! Я в шоке как это круто ! БРАВО !
Her eyes were green
What's the name and artist of the background song? It's not from the original or 2049 soundtracks, and the link that's been posted many times has been removed.
Here is two compositions in this video the first is - "Jóhann Jóhannsson - Road to Blade Runner". I can't find the second. I guess it's removed soundtrack of Jóhann Jóhannsson before he was replaced by Zimmer and Wallfisch.
Anybody knows what music is playing?
Somebody tell me please. What's the music sounds?
It sounds like the BR2049 OST. As to which song, I cannot say, Just listen to the whole thing, it's well worth your time.
Jack Napier thank you. I will listen to when I get home.
Echoes, Act 2: The Voyage
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Nope.
We're getting so close to photo realistic CG models that might one day be realistic enough to trick our eyes into believing that it's real instead of it being realistic but still something isn't quite right about it like it is today but fantastic work though
How hard is it to mention the name of the track in the description? I have to go through hoops every time i like some music in a video.
That being said, amazing CGI indeed.
Amr Ayyad I’m looking all over for it, if I find it I’ll reply here.
you're not alone, I'm looking for it too. I'll tell if I find
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Shenanigen's Adventures well that was obvious lol, thank you kind sir.
Taken down. Could you tell me what it was?
we are still having difficulties only just to make a digital replicant, probably a blade runner world will come in another next 1000 years or more
The test one's look amazing, but the new sequence just doesn't look quite right still... They should have kept her face more in shadow...
Double Negative when you did the effects Open mate was it Arri Alexa ~4:3 or IMAX (1.90:1)?. Please answer.
This is MPC
if you think about it this is a very dangerous tool. you could stage anyone into doing anything and no one would know if its real or not. this is an example of how technology could unravel us. scary times
Name of song please. :(
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Thanks :)
Very Impressive ,but new Sean young (vfx )face feels somehow ,less lifelike than the original (may be they intentionally done that )I don't know
But what I cant understand why if they have the real actress in set so then why the have to replicate the actress what is the propose ? some body can explane it to me please
her eyes were green
Seeing this, I still don't understand how Disney was able to fuck up Moff Tarkin so badly it ruined a big part of the SW movie
it pretty great but its also a little off
It's supposed to be, in that if it's a little off then we know it's not Rachel or even close to approximation and that Deckard also know she's close bit not real.