that's when you say A) "i'm not charging by the hour i'm charging how valuable the shot it to you , are you saying this isn't a valuable shot?" B) "well I was charging for the shot but your right we should bill this one by the hour no matter how long it takes" C) "I'm ending our relationship I only work with clients that value my time experience."
@@kylejennings819 why not? any client saying something like that is coming from a completely disingenuous position trying to diminish an artists value as a negotiation tactic even if they aren't aware of they're trying to sell you ego back to so they can get a deal.
welcome 2 the life of a vfx artist nobody will know them most of them wont even meet the director of the movie but they do almost everything of the movie
Sandro's pro VFX workflow is amazing to me. The bits and pieces he takes from everywhere, like photos and 3d renders, only to make it super consistent in the end - I'm in awe. Everything about this short film looks like it'll be phenomenal. Can't wait to see it this evolve and be accomplished.
This 6min.20sec of my life, made me feel like i was watching such a nice cool person explaining about vfx his projected himself in a very pleasant manner, hats off sir.
This is for such a short visual. Imagine the amount of pain staking work that goes into a moving animation on top of a cgi background say in a marvel film for instance. Now watch the credits as the actresses, actors, directors, composers and other contributers get a nice line for their names and titles whilst the concept artists, animators, vfx artists, digital artists, cgi artists and creature artists fly by in a jumbled mess. You know they practically made that film in a small studio off location with crunch times forcing them to work 80 hour weeks and they probably couldn't even find their own names in the credits.
Yup, welcome to our business :) You're in it for the love for film really, and only if you fancy being in a high level environment. I'm compositing for commercials. It's a lot more stressful and the end product is dismissable, but it pays better and you can get away with some dirty tricks that would never hold up in the film vfx biz.
Jeff Goldblum You flirting with the idea of getting a footing in the industry? Start with the book "The Art and Science of Digital Compositing" by Ron Brinkmann, it's kinda like the bible. Get yourself a free copy of Nuke Non-Commercial, and try to recreate the math given in the book. What I'd like to point out specifically is that it's quite possible to learn a few techniques these days with tutorials and stuff, and you might actually be able to sell yourself at some point (if you don't want to pursue it as a hobby, that is). But you will falter sooner or later if you only use online resources, trust me. What I did to up my game is to make VFX heavy music videos for friends. I had the freedom to do what I want and try out new techniques without a strict deadline. I remember trying to figure out a resolution to specific problems for days on end until it finally clicked. Months and years down the road, you will be glad to remember all your dirty tricks. They'll sum up. Another thing is how you view this kind of work. If you view it as a sophisticated, math-heavy subject, you might get turned off by the idea. I look at it as a puzzle game. Really... just organizing your script efficiently is like putting a well oiled command and conquer base together, and if your script is well set up you will be able to tackle any demand and challenge. But it's a tough game nonetheless, taking years to master.
Here's a really, really handy and helpful video that explains what it takes on an organizational level and what is expected of you if you want to start off: ua-cam.com/video/-Em0Wvm8O-I/v-deo.html
You can see his soul escaping his body during those last smiles lol massive respect for him :D I am trying to learn nuke from zero and is really complicated specially trying to find good tutorials or what i should focus on learning first:'(
My god Colin, you are a genius. I am from Bangladesh and I saw this video 2 years ago. Now that I have watched your short and know your story, I basically want to be you! (as I want to be a filmmaker cum VFX artist in the future). Thank you for inspiring us.
nice. VFX artist has to be able to SEE that is missing for the illusion to be complete.. and then solve it... this post is a really good showing the hard work and talent that goes in to dissecting and solving a scene.. really cool.. thanks..
Most people don't think about how light is reflecting around them, how it picks up color, or the spots on glass etc. But your brains sees it and feels it missing when it isn't there. So much detail.
When I saw this movie Vfx it is a great job and nicely I hope to be able to make so more videos to show or share with other people to make a jop, and I hope the best in your future life
I was there like an year ago and trust me, just get blender, make a box, put lights on and render it. You journey will begin. (altough im learning maya now, blender is still great)
So this dude did the whole shot himself ? I thought there would be around 2-3 people working. One for the modelling, one for texturing and one for lighting.
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Good grief, so much work! All the way down to getting interior reflections on the window glass. Nearly a months worth of work for a few seconds on footage. Please tell me you were working on other shots during that time? Or was all that time spent on this one shot?
2 to 3 weeks on a shot? That makes it a $5000-$10000 shot. It looks amazing with superb detail. But I couldn't sell this to my clients even for high end commercial work. Kudos on the post though
Wouldn't be faster to do almost everything in a 3D software? all the relight, hdri, reflection, cam movement etc could be well managed in 3D i feel. The two boys can be put separately on 2D card, the camera in movement faked with a 3D cam. What you guys think?
For modeling and texturing.. yeah, it might make sense. But since this is a camera projection setup, there's no big (time) advantage doing it in 3D. Also, in Nuke you get a faster feedback, and bear in mind that you need to retouch your 3D render in Nuke anyhow, they seldom come out of 3D perfectly, you always have artifacts and stuff to deal with. Also, if the director later on decides to change the lighting for example, you wouldn't have to go through 3D, you can just pull it off in Nuke (with reasonable expertise).
After seeing the node tree I’d like to ask if it’s better to get a 16:9 monitor for blender than a 21:9 ? ( at same dot size) Nodes seem to go for height, but video related stuff goes for width. Thanks if someone could elaborate on the different workspaces from a personal perspective.
I wanna make a short film, I'm willing to learn from scratch. I always thought I need 'super computers' for this. I just have a good gaming rig i7, 970 GTX - I hope it's possible ayyyy this is so exciting amazing video
The problem with nuke IMO is that the nodes are very complicated and just scarry the hardest part of blender for me is always the nodes I was just wondering is the node system is harder, easier or not comparable to blender.
All that... And... I would probably just have done a couple of matte paintings. :D But then again... I can say a lot of things until I actually try to do a shot like this... If this accuracy is what is needed in todays films. You guy are not paid nearly enough!
As a digital compositor for feature films and advertisement, i often deal with tasks that require an assembly of huge nuke scripts (500-2500 nodes), but usually it takes a several days, maybe a week. This is ordinary shot, and i dunno why it takes 3-4 weeks as Sandro said.
Maybe it wasn't clear in the video, but Sandro has a full-time job and was working on our project only in nights and weekends. So, this shot took 3-4 weeks part-time.
I'm going send this to all my clients when they they tell me. "That's an easy shot, it shouldn't take you too long."
that's when you say
A) "i'm not charging by the hour i'm charging how valuable the shot it to you , are you saying this isn't a valuable shot?"
B) "well I was charging for the shot but your right we should bill this one by the hour no matter how long it takes"
C) "I'm ending our relationship I only work with clients that value my time experience."
@@TheNewton i don't think any of these choices are good responses lmao
@@kylejennings819 why not? any client saying something like that is coming from a completely disingenuous position trying to diminish an artists value as a negotiation tactic even if they aren't aware of they're trying to sell you ego back to so they can get a deal.
What, it only took 6 and a half minutes XD
People really do underestimate the amount of work done to make a good vfx shot
Not gonna lie, almost shat my pants when I saw the node system
the short movie has just came out, go watch it
@@madeparama187 yeah I did it was great
After 2 years of NUKE nodes, your brain would be so rewired that the whole world and your interactions in the physical realm would become node trees.
Same
So you should take a look at the node tree in the new Blade Runner, you'll die inside :')
welcome 2 the life of a vfx artist nobody will know them most of them wont even meet the director of the movie but they do almost everything of the movie
depends on what movie. in some they done almost everything in some they dont do anything
+rais helmyeven when you think there's no vfx done there will most likely be vfx, either it being small stuff or clean up work
nah there will always be vfx done
well this dude is a vfx supervisor who is often on set with the director.
@@owensilleck2596 It’s important for them to be there.
you can tell he is legit because of thoose panda eyes
lol totally
Sandro's pro VFX workflow is amazing to me. The bits and pieces he takes from everywhere, like photos and 3d renders, only to make it super consistent in the end - I'm in awe.
Everything about this short film looks like it'll be phenomenal. Can't wait to see it this evolve and be accomplished.
This 6min.20sec of my life, made me feel like i was watching such a nice cool person explaining about vfx his projected himself in a very pleasant manner, hats off sir.
Man does this guy ever made a tutorial series to get from the starting plate to the finished job, it would be awesome learning material.
05:39 .... his laugh says it all. Mad respect!
feel bad for him tbh:(
This is for such a short visual. Imagine the amount of pain staking work that goes into a moving animation on top of a cgi background say in a marvel film for instance. Now watch the credits as the actresses, actors, directors, composers and other contributers get a nice line for their names and titles whilst the concept artists, animators, vfx artists, digital artists, cgi artists and creature artists fly by in a jumbled mess. You know they practically made that film in a small studio off location with crunch times forcing them to work 80 hour weeks and they probably couldn't even find their own names in the credits.
Yup, welcome to our business :) You're in it for the love for film really, and only if you fancy being in a high level environment. I'm compositing for commercials. It's a lot more stressful and the end product is dismissable, but it pays better and you can get away with some dirty tricks that would never hold up in the film vfx biz.
@@thenout any advice on learning materials?
Jeff Goldblum You flirting with the idea of getting a footing in the industry? Start with the book "The Art and Science of Digital Compositing" by Ron Brinkmann, it's kinda like the bible. Get yourself a free copy of Nuke Non-Commercial, and try to recreate the math given in the book.
What I'd like to point out specifically is that it's quite possible to learn a few techniques these days with tutorials and stuff, and you might actually be able to sell yourself at some point (if you don't want to pursue it as a hobby, that is). But you will falter sooner or later if you only use online resources, trust me.
What I did to up my game is to make VFX heavy music videos for friends. I had the freedom to do what I want and try out new techniques without a strict deadline. I remember trying to figure out a resolution to specific problems for days on end until it finally clicked. Months and years down the road, you will be glad to remember all your dirty tricks. They'll sum up.
Another thing is how you view this kind of work. If you view it as a sophisticated, math-heavy subject, you might get turned off by the idea. I look at it as a puzzle game. Really... just organizing your script efficiently is like putting a well oiled command and conquer base together, and if your script is well set up you will be able to tackle any demand and challenge. But it's a tough game nonetheless, taking years to master.
Here's a really, really handy and helpful video that explains what it takes on an organizational level and what is expected of you if you want to start off: ua-cam.com/video/-Em0Wvm8O-I/v-deo.html
@@thenout I'm flirting with the idea looking at going into film, more of the artsy side to be honest but it's all fascinating either way.
WOW!!! this is so inspiring and useful! I think I have watched this 20 times now. Please do more!
You can see his soul escaping his body during those last smiles lol massive respect for him :D I am trying to learn nuke from zero and is really complicated specially trying to find good tutorials or what i should focus on learning first:'(
Houdini is intimidating enough after I learned Blender. Nuke scares me.
im a junior compositor and i am very impressed with your finished result and your node tree. Holy smokes, its intimidating.
My god Colin, you are a genius. I am from Bangladesh and I saw this video 2 years ago. Now that I have watched your short and know your story, I basically want to be you! (as I want to be a filmmaker cum VFX artist in the future). Thank you for inspiring us.
Fantastic work. Congratulations Sandro :)
Colin Levy! This is great. This is great, really great!
This is one program I had a hard time figuring out buddy, but you killed it, awesome.
The amount of work for this is above Imagination!
He walked us through the process and all but still... magic!
nice! found this vid through youtube, watched the trailer for the movie, and now i'm dying to see the movie! looks cool.
And my producers wonder why post takes so long...
Exactly
Very cool!
Big fan I saw your hinderburg video
One shot took 3 weeks and you gotta do 200. Dedication right there!
This scene is made of 70+- shots
seeing the node setup makes me go bonkers!😨😨😨😨
Those eye bags don’t lie! Nice work
When he showed the full node tree-
me: ight imma head out
Lol it's only 10 percent node tree... Vfx shots should be to long node tree ...
lol
me: I didn't wanna make movies anyways.
Hats off to your painstaking work. All the best for your future ventures..
As crazy as this was to see I felt super relieved when he said 3 weeks and acknowledged that it was insane.
nice. VFX artist has to be able to SEE that is missing for the illusion to be complete.. and then solve it... this post is a really good showing the hard work and talent that goes in to dissecting and solving a scene.. really cool.. thanks..
Most people don't think about how light is reflecting around them, how it picks up color, or the spots on glass etc. But your brains sees it and feels it missing when it isn't there. So much detail.
This is what true commitment looks like 🤩
Finally a good Nuke walk-through.
Hell yeah, it's a super lit right here. I appreciate how you show both computer screens while making adjustments. Thanks
When I saw this movie Vfx it is a great job and nicely I hope to be able to make so more videos to show or share with other people to make a jop, and I hope the best in your future life
Wow its great
unbelievable, this stuff just amazes me, would really love to get into this level of VFX but just wouldn't know where to start.
I was there like an year ago and trust me, just get blender, make a box, put lights on and render it. You journey will begin. (altough im learning maya now, blender is still great)
hrsh Gaming you forgot the most important step. Delete the default cube. Only then can you add a cube mesh and render it out lol
I watched your presentation in blender conference at amsterdam. I am really impressed. I wonder when do you finish this project.
Finished
wow, im never gonna be this good at compositing LOL!! this is awesome!
youre awesome buddy. i appreciate your contribution to vfx lovers. see you down the line
That's passion ! Congratulations ! Hope you the best !
Passion is a stupid word when working 60 hours a week and no payment
So this dude did the whole shot himself ? I thought there would be around 2-3 people working. One for the modelling, one for texturing and one for lighting.
Nodes are always a nightmare 🤒. Awesome job. It would be exciting to see someone do a shot like this using AE.
Its posible but takes longer times, also u may do the 3d work in another software like blender, maybe c4d which has conecctions with after effects
@@pansitostyle Yeah totally agree to that.
I love content like these!
Very nice. One man army. Superb output.
actually if you work in this field, u can say this vfx is not that complicated............ but honestly this vfx guy is awesome
Great job dude.
2,3 weeks on this moment? Omgash amazing
Please stop teasing us and Do a full movie of this. It looks awesome.
Ive been looking for this videos for years Lol. Finally found it!!
Dude explains his 3 weeks of work like he did it in an hour :p
god damn man...,your dedication is so incredible
Absolutely incredible work. can't wait to see the final film :)
Made made respect bro. The nodes are insane.
Hello, I'm watching from San Bernardino CA and i am Exited to view all of your videos! Hopefully I can learn from you fellas. And you guys just earned a New subscriber just in the first 10 seconds of this video!
Nuke is badass
Excellent work!
Socery! So much detailed attention!
The amount of work... WOW!!!
Did this get finished in 2021??? inspiring stuff!
ridiculous skill.
incredible. God is in every single detail
👏👏👏👏👏 i like this it's magic i very like visuel and effect all in editing it's very magic and creative we can made a dream
That node tree is just insane
Beautiful. So I just started learning c4d. What program is this now that I have to learn? This is so cool.
me saw the node tree: "uhm okay I think I should go...!"
when I saw the node system I said to my self.. if a man can create this then how about the creator of our universe.
Good grief, so much work! All the way down to getting interior reflections on the window glass.
Nearly a months worth of work for a few seconds on footage. Please tell me you were working on other shots during that time? Or was all that time spent on this one shot?
bro you good,i just love you work and hope that you will teacher
Nice work...
WHAT SOFTWARE IS THAT NOTE TREE?!?!? I need that! I want to be able to take notes on random things like that!
Amazing to look at! Starting these nodes is a pain but it all looks so logical in the end.. :)
this is awesome.. great job..👍
That’s magic 😳👐🏼
Great job!
He basically Nuked the node shit out of that fantastically detailed scene.
Vfx is awesome
2 to 3 weeks on a shot? That makes it a $5000-$10000 shot. It looks amazing with superb detail. But I couldn't sell this to my clients even for high end commercial work. Kudos on the post though
awesome work.
Really nicely done. Love the shot, has a really nice feel, cool script too! Could be tidier but could be so so so much worse! Ha, love the video!
5.40 his smile says how hard he has worked on this project as a compositor
Well done guys!
Wouldn't be faster to do almost everything in a 3D software? all the relight, hdri, reflection, cam movement etc could be well managed in 3D i feel. The two boys can be put separately on 2D card, the camera in movement faked with a 3D cam. What you guys think?
For modeling and texturing.. yeah, it might make sense. But since this is a camera projection setup, there's no big (time) advantage doing it in 3D. Also, in Nuke you get a faster feedback, and bear in mind that you need to retouch your 3D render in Nuke anyhow, they seldom come out of 3D perfectly, you always have artifacts and stuff to deal with. Also, if the director later on decides to change the lighting for example, you wouldn't have to go through 3D, you can just pull it off in Nuke (with reasonable expertise).
so awesome.
Muy bueno. Cuanto trabajo! 3 semanas en una toma q dura segundos.
Awesome work! Aha! Sacrifice all their free-time!
Wow wow wow very very nice
wait a sec, you did the texturing in nuke?
He used photos for the actual texture work
After seeing the node tree I’d like to ask if it’s better to get a 16:9 monitor for blender than a 21:9 ? ( at same dot size)
Nodes seem to go for height, but video related stuff goes for width.
Thanks if someone could elaborate on the different workspaces from a personal perspective.
I wanna make a short film, I'm willing to learn from scratch. I always thought I need 'super computers' for this. I just have a good gaming rig i7, 970 GTX - I hope it's possible ayyyy this is so exciting amazing video
totally possible, just a little bit longer to render
If you're a student Autodesk programs are free.
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Oh my god, now I do n’t even have basic ones, which makes me want to learn this skill more.
Insane!
i always use backdrop for that many nods :)
This is insane!
so good man congrats
The problem with nuke IMO is that the nodes are very complicated and just scarry the hardest part of blender for me is always the nodes I was just wondering is the node system is harder, easier or not comparable to blender.
how much do you think he can save by doing it destructively?
When u heard blender! 😍 💕💕
All that... And... I would probably just have done a couple of matte paintings. :D
But then again... I can say a lot of things until I actually try to do a shot like this... If this accuracy is what is needed in todays films. You guy are not paid nearly enough!
Amazing 👍🙏
Bravo))
As a digital compositor for feature films and advertisement, i often deal with tasks that require an assembly of huge nuke scripts (500-2500 nodes), but usually it takes a several days, maybe a week. This is ordinary shot, and i dunno why it takes 3-4 weeks as Sandro said.
Maybe it wasn't clear in the video, but Sandro has a full-time job and was working on our project only in nights and weekends. So, this shot took 3-4 weeks part-time.