I’m angry. As a brown woman, I didn’t have the luxury to learn about racism reading a book in the comfort of my own home. I stopped talking about race with white people because it would fuel my anger even more so being showered by “white people discovering racism” for the last weeks is making me so angry. I try to remember that, even if I was living it, it took me time, discussions and readings to get to where I’m at. I don’t know what you (white people) are planning to do to dismantle white supremacy around the world (please do not undermine UK racism using the US, it’s not our lane as non black people to decide where it’s worse to be a black person. Edson Da Costa was killed is London in 2017 by a police officer who used exactly the same technique as George Floyd’s murderer did, technique still authorized in the UK) but I read a lot of “I’m educating myself, I’m learning and will have the conversations I need to have offline”. I get that it’s something that needs to be done but when are you going to take action? I see POC naming and shaming the companies they work for/with, putting themselves in way more uncomfortable positions than white people learning that they/their professional and personal life are full of racists. POC and especially black women don’t have a choice, our whole life is, to say the least, uncomfortable. I know white people won’t save us, but if you could at least handle your people and hold them accountable. If I hear one more person IRL or online saying how they are having “uncomfortable” conversations with their boyfriend or family I’m gonna snap. We have a system to dismantle, we don’t have time to explain to your boyfriend why he should consider black people as part of the humanity. I saw on Twitter somebody say “white supremacy won’t die until white people see it as a white issue they need to solve rather than a black issue they need to empathize with.” That’s why I’m angry I don’t feel like it’s happening. But this morning I saw Angela Davis saying that she doesn’t know if she ever experienced this kind of global challenge to racism and the consequences of slavery”, I saw what happened in Bristol and the way it resonated in France and it makes me hopeful and less angry. I need to focus on my people and their light instead of focusing on what white people are doing. (And in case it’s not obvious of course there are no personal attacks in what I say, I just needed to vent)
H Mo I’m sorry you have to go through the same, I wish us peace. (And something I do to keep going is running or taking long walk listening to 90’s music)
I agree....and in fact hearing all these white people discover it for the first time, as well meaning as they are, infuriates and disgusts me further. The utter ignorance and privilege and all the talk about how "uncomfortable" it is for THEM. LMFAO! REALLY? Try living it for even one day! I am furious about what they've done to me, what they've done to my father, just the psychological damage the whole system inflicts on POC. and the rich white influencers are going to read books and learn and feel uncomfy for a bit....wonderful.
This is a brilliant comment. This is exactly what needs to be said to white people just learning about institutional racism. Sending you love and hoping you're able to get some rest and peace admist everything.
I also try to stay out of white folks discussions/competitions of who’s more “woke”! White men telling me my experience is only in my head, and there’s no reason to perceive you are treated differently! I’m in my 50’s and old enough to remember how much worse it was. Yes, worse! But? In California, there a false sense of chill. It’s not that chill. It’s a bubbling pot. I’m grateful to the younger people who are not willing to accept this situation any longer!
*i am speaking as asian (Southasian/centralasian) Australia woman* i would say that a trend i have seen amongst white influencers especially from canada and the uk (and other countries in europe) is the focusing on *america* rather than the deeply entrenched racism within their own countries. it shocks me everytime i meet someone from the uk here in Aus, and find out how little they know about their own colonial history.(tbh there is a lot more to be said about the continued british immigration to aus and subsequent continuation of the colonial legacy_) in saying that i would suggest perhaps focusing on Englands role in exporting the current racist system and values that are pervasive across the world. The majority of Europes wealth was built up via violent colonial exploitation, so it is ...odd to me when the world see this as an *America* based issue. I honesty do not mean this maliciously at all. for me i think people need to reach a point of realising this cant be 'fixed' its not a 'problem',as it were, in the current system, it is the system, the regulations, the framework itself that is sick, society is functioning the way it was designed to it was created on the basis of the exploitation and oppression of BIPOC, and thus i think its necessary to engage with the 'revolutionary', rather than the bandaid fixes. Also maybe dont focus on just academic literature and that but take stock of how much in your life comes from or involves any kind of nonwhite bipoc input, focus, ideas. Be it the movies you watch the music you listen to the people you talk to the makeup you use the clothes you wear the news you read the food you eat the local store you chose to shop at etc. just take a moment to pause and take stock of it all.
Thank you for the comment, it is not coming across as malicious at all! A few commenters have mentioned the issue of colonialism- the Zinn book does open with a lot of information around that (again, in relation to America). I will definitely make sure to research wider around the topic. I think as the current conversation has been so focused on America that became my starting point to this huge amount of reading/research that needs to be done - but like I say, I promise to make sure I keep this broad. Thank you again for your comment xxx
I’m not usually one for comments but agreed this is such an important topic! As a black person in the U.K. this time has been incredibly draining. I think the biggest challenge is feeling like I haven’t had to words to join in the conversation as much as I would want, because it’s something you learn to suppress so it almost goes against everything you know to share your negative experiences. Seeing the reaction on social media has been amazing but I’ve really had to limit how much I’m going on it as it’s become quite overwhelming. The same way that I’m trying to take the time to process this all, I hope brands/ the media/ individuals also take time to be able to implement lasting change- so it doesn’t become a hashtag that fizzles out! But this definitely does feel like the start of a more tangible shift.
The media needs to highlight racism which occurs all over the world, not just America and the UK. The Australian history of Aboriginal people where ENGLAND colonized Australia and killed Aboriginal people, attempted genocide against them, classified indigenous people as "flora and fauna," and over caused four hundred indigenous murders in custody, is not taught anywhere but Australia. It should be taught in England considering that they are the country responsible for this colonization and institutionalized racism against Indigenous Australians. It is infuriating to witness English people talk about how they are trying to educate themselves on the history of American racism and advocating for it to be taught in English schools whilst completely ignoring Australia whilst still insisting that they are educating themselves.
As a black person the topic is making me feel really uncomfortable. Although it’s nice to see people of all different nationalities coming together to support us , it’s making me increasingly uncomfortable about going outside. It’s making me even more aware of my skin colour and how people are going to respond to me in this current situation. I had a chat with a white friend the other day and she was shocked to find out that I’d cross the road sometimes if I saw a white female coming towards me - I do that so that said women wouldn’t think I was a threat (this would depend on the time of day) If it is daytime I’m less likely to have this thought process. I find myself smiling at the little old white lady so she would think I was friendly and not threatening. ( I’m aware the generation in their 60’s are generally more racist , through discussions over the years my white freinds have told me this of their own parents and grandparents. It makes me feel uncomfortable that i could be making someone else uncomfortable because of the colour of my skin. I’m just someone that wants to be liked as I think I’m a good person with good morals. I’m a peaceful person. The BLM is good in so many ways but it’s also aggravating people like Tommy Robinson. And I dread this march that is suppose to be happening on Saturday, as Tommy has made a video talking about bringing his following of hooligans into central London where the BLM protests will take place🙁
I'm just going to say this as a 23 year old black American, if those people were uncomfortable by your skin now, they were uncomfortable before. If they would say something to you about it now, they would have before as well. It is not your duty to make them feel comfortable, because you will never succeed (I learned that at a very young age and it wasn't easy). Basically my point is that you let racists win when you hide inside. You fear is so very valid but you cannot let it consume you and completely change how you live your life. Obviously easier said than done.
On behalf of us white women, I am truly sorry that you were ever made to think that us white women think of black women as a threat. It’s so fucked up that you have to think like that. And I promise you to call my friends and family or any white person for that matter out on their behaviour if I ever see them cross the street to avoid a black person or hold on to their bags or any other shit like that.
yo! appreciate you using your voice & platform. i’m black british (caribbean) & my parents took extra steps to make sure i knew my history. there’s no right place to start, we aren’t born knowing. everybody starts somewhere & there will be mistakes! this is a marathon, not a sprint. happy to see so many people taking first steps in doing the work! 🖤
I’m a recently qualified secondary school history teacher and we have been having lots of discussions about how to be more explicit about the Slave trade and Britain’s imperial past, as well as looking at the experience of immigrants in the uk and racism. Really glad you’re talking about this!
Im questioning the real reason why “influencers were silent before , there have been numerous videos of black peoples death on social media, numerous calls for diversity and inclusion in fashion and beauty industries before June 2020. Admission of complicity would go a long way in making real changes in ones life and in the world.
I feel like if there wasn't a pandemic the situation might not have had the same effect as it has had. Like it would have generated outrage and then people would have moved on. The pandemic just helped magnify the shortcomings (in many aspects) of the societies we live in. With that some people are making realisation and some are just riding the wave to not seem ignorant.
One thing people have said is that it was a combination of they literally watched a man die, and call for his mother, and that click that this keeps happening. I’m African-American, but I intentionally did not watch the video. It already hurts too much.
We had a man hunted and man who a group watched as he died for 8.46 minutes (it was not quick) a woman was killed in her home, black people accosted for wearing masks and for not wearing masks. Americans angered about the lack our government showed to all humans lives and then the climate over the last 4 year it was a breaking point (again,we have had a few and they all get pushed under the rug quickly). I’m proud all 50 states did protest and a lot of the world. Maybe now we can start restructuring how the world is run. Maybe now we can stop making black people scared for their lives, maybe now.
Idk man... The last thing I (speaking for myself) want is for people to look at us through this lens of perpetual sympathy or to assume that our existence is riddled with constant trauma and self loathing, because that is a whole different set of othering I don't want to deal with. Especially if Starbucks ain't offering free coffees. I'm not in the business of telling people what to do or read, but I do hope when you are looking at subjects that revolve around the system of racism and the overt/covert prejudice that follows, you will delve into works from black people that highlight blackness in a positive way or works from black writers that who just do have happened to write a good book about things that most people regardless of colour, write about. Considering that you're into fashion and art, you could look into black photographers who have documented black culture from their own cultural perspective and in a really beautiful way (like Malik Sidibe and James Barnor), and other black artists as well.
Have you heard of Zanele Muholi? Her portraits are amazing. They're so striking and powerful! She was meant to have a solo exhibition at Tate Modern, but of course...covid.
Thank you so much for this comment - in my next video I will discuss books I have read in the past written by black writers, that, as you say, haven't been picked out because they are written by a black writer writing just about race. Will definitely look into those photographers too - thank you so much xx
Thank you for using your platform to speak out, Lizzy. You're one of the only style influencers I follow who has continued to educate by reading books - even before it was "cool" to do so. As an American, it's heartening to see people in other parts of the world marching and protesting in solidarity. :)
I think it’s worth noting that whilst police brutality (and the fatality rate attached to this) is worse in the U.S, racism itself isn’t any better in the U.K. And if you live outside of London, the situation is almost always worse. Brits have done a great job of suppressing these things but you only have to look at how validated racists felt to express their views in the run up to Brexit. As soon as they start to feel like the environment is safer for them to express their horrible opinions on race, they become louder.
That book looks more like punishment than education. If you need a break from all that learning, I recommend interviews to the classics, Malcom X, MLK Jr, James Baldwin (check out the Baldwin-Buckley debate), plus pay attention to how the questions are been frased. Great women Maya Angelou, Toni Morrison (get some tissues) and Alice Walker to name a few. UK based, compulsory reading Akala and Remi Eddo-Lodge. And since I like poetry Lucille Clifton, Elizabeth Acevedo, Kaur and Warsan Shire (not all black, but with very relatable experiences). As always thanks for the great music!
I think that demanding transparency on the BAME pay gap is a good way to get to grips with how seriously companies take inclusivity and rate how we value those
I myself have been reticent even as a black woman, unable to organize or articulate my thoughts around this. I’ve wrestled between encouragement by those who acknowledge change needs to happen, and cynicism of those putting on a show to ease feelings of guilt. But I’m hoping that even the worst of events can be used for good, as more people are becoming equipped to confront the underlying issues at play (supremacy and entitlement) in the small moments of everyday interactions. And recognize these plagues come in so many other forms besides racism, like sexism, ageism, homophobia, nationalism, etc, so we all have work to do.
I appreciate your honesty in stating your perspective and how you’re more open to really thinking about how others are treated. I know you actually do read normally. Many UA-camrs are talking about studying the situation, but it’s like they’re reading a speech. For some, it’s better to say nothing. I think Saul Williams would be interesting for you to research. He’s a poet, musician, and actor. So interesting! His spoken word is amazing!
some advise from someone of colour...the first step is to recognise your own biases. We all have these, it's normal for humans to fear or make judgement against what is different to them or what they don't know. So first step is to be aware of your own biases, and ask yourself why do you feel this way. Is it something you learned, is it based on a negative experience? if you learned, then where did you get this information? For example, the idea that black people are violent, did you experience direct violence or did you get this from cinema/television/music etc... Once you determine the source, try to see if this rationally makes sense or if it is based on ignorance/miseducation. Second step is not to ignore colour and say that 'you do not see colour' because that is part of the problem. While saying that might be pc, it doesn't acknowledge that there is an issue here to be addressed, but brushes it under the carpet. Colour is there and it exists, so it has to be addressed in a direct way in order to make up for the history of mistreatment. The idea of 'not seeing colour' is just a pretty narrative that was designed to sugarcoat a problem that privileged people are uncomfortable with. In order to effect change in a deliberate way, you will need to be active and blunt. If a parent has two children, one healthy and one born in a way that disadvantages them, they would do everything in their power to make sure the disadvantaged child gets a fair and equal opportunity in life so that they are not held back by something that was not in their control. It would not be enough in this scenario for the parent to say 'both my kids are exactly the same' because doing that does not address the issue. It will be hard for white people to become accustomed to this way of thinking after years of not having to think about it, but being critical of your environment is an important first step. Asking why are they no black x, y and z in this room will be hard to remember when you are surrounded by people who look like you but it has to be done.
Yeah because it's not just white people who are anti black. In fact I feel like non black POC outperform whites nowadays when it comes to being anti black but I'm not saying anything...
Its not just enough to read and discuss its important to put in to action. From all your blogs pay attention to how much inclusion have you considered. Your friends and bloggers are mostly white. Companies as well mostly sponsors white bloggers. Your blogs pretty much represent white ideas and culture and lifestyle how much have you really looked at the world in color and shades? I am sorry if i am being brutally honest and you might not like what i am saying. Being mindful about always being more inclusive about everything you do will be a constant work in progress.
Anything from Toni Morrison is great. I read all I could find from her in the public library back in highschool and still have vivid memories from those books now almost 15 years later. By the way. If someone that young reads this. Back then I had a small lecture on Morrison's books as part of "public speaking practice" we had to do (the topics were free choice) and the teacher appreciated I chose sth that was important but not part of our East European curriculum. I did the same with propaganda books about Lenin also :) the hormonal teenagers actually listened. There are ways, try to find them xx
thank you for using your platform to speak on this Lizzy, not that I had any doubts that you would! I wanted to add this into the conversation: it would be amazing if going forward you could focus on avoiding working with brands that don't include POC in their campaigns, influencers, exec board etc! I know it's impossible to know what goes on behind closed doors, but a lot of brands have been put in the spotlight for not being inclusive and really just racist in their operations. I think as an 'influencer' that would be a really amazing way for you to contribute. also, making sure you're not putting your money into those brands / companies as well and incorporating some amazing black-owned brands!! this is a Google Doc sheet of Black Owned brands etc if anyone is looking to support 🖤 docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1ZiWjlfqc02OeWL4hTNZymVT_kyNnO42xG-hucO3rC0E/edit?usp=sharing PS. I could have literally done a little dance because I was so happy to see you had uploaded a vlog 😌 I am a newer subscriber and I have been absolutely enthralled with your content, it's virtually all I have been watching. I hope you're doing so so well, lots of positive energy & love from Montréal 💛
27 years and never thought about it. As a young-ish white person I find that so utterly bemusing, unless one has never lived in the UK, read or watched the news. Baffling.
She provided a thoughtful, honest answer. Most white people have never really thought about it, more than a passing thought. I’ve never thought what it’s like being a Caucasian man from Australia. This is normal, unless there’s a specific reason to do so.
I know lots of people who have also never thought about it, as they've never been confronted by the truth like we are now. Racism in the UK is so much more subtle (but absolutely still there), but I think the fact she is addressing it now is great. Thanks for being open Lizzie, happy to see so many people with followings sharing resources so Black folk aren't having to do the labour! X
this was the reaction I had as well. not just Lizzy but all influencers, acting like they’ve only just heard about institutional racism. not really sure what to say to people talking about “educating themselves” when they’re 27 and have a university degree and live in the UK. edit: this is something I feel very angry about, and very shocked/disappointed in a lot of people, I’m not saying it to be mean (just to clarify)
This is white privilege at work though, before that lightbulb moment that changes everything, it literally blinds you to the deeply entrenched, systemic racism around you that affects everything. Combine that with the pitiful lack of education given in school and a "colourblind" approach to race and you can often get to your 20s without really questioning this or checking your own privilege.
I completely agree with your feelings of being sheltered due to privilege, and because of my personal circumstances (extreme anxiety in large groups etc....) and the fact that I don't really use social media for anything other than following people, I've felt paralysed and useless in moving the message forward. I've been trying to use this time to donate, reflect and self educate as best I can, but I can't help but feel that that's not enough and it's honestly breaking my heart.
The U.K. has a huge race problem. 2 examples of systemic racism in the UK in the last few years are - the windrush scandal (2018) and Grenfell tower fire (2017). The windrush scandal was a shocking example of the immigration system being used to wrongfully deport British people who had never officially become citizens but had lived their entire lives in the U.K. and paid taxes, had children and grandchildren etc. deported to places they had no connections and hadn’t been to since childhood. Grenfell fire mostly affected POC I believe. I’m sure there are many more examples but these were ones that made it to the mainstream media and it’s appalling at how these people were treated by their own government.
www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/mar/21/windrush-institutional-racism-hostile-environment www.shareable.net/the-response-podcast-inequality-structural-racism-and-the-fight-for-justice-after-the-grenfell-tower-fire/ Some articles about these 2 issues if you are interested.
I would echo people's thoughts on here about focusing on racism in the UK/colonialism rather than on problems in the US. Of course, racism is a global issue, and currently what is happening in America is on everyone's minds, but why would you not focus on the racism that is happening in your own community? Learning about racism in other countries is useful, but the system that you live in needs to be dismantled as well.
A great fiction book to recommend is ‘how long ‘til black history month’ by N K Jemisin. It’s a collection of short stories that offers a much needed contribution to our understanding of and imaginings about the past, present, and the future. Also her other novel, ‘The fifth season’ which buckles under the weight of systemic racism, income inequality and an environmental disaster. You get SO lost in her writing and I believe can really open your eyes to racial injustice through fiction. If you can’t deal with heavy factual reading I totally recommended these books by N K Jemisin ❤️
I’m so happy you found your belt, losing things causes me such anxiety, even ppl losing their own stuff bothers me. Regarding this current situation, I can’t describe the feeling but all those non black influencers( whites, Asians, southasaians) speaking for blm but most of them even don’t have black friends at least from what I seen online, never promoted black owned businesses, so is it that they are just protecting their image or this a genuine movement of self awareness regarding race. I’m not judging anyone for not having black friends , i haven’t had a black friend since high school, some things it can be forced esp friendships. Anyway I’m rambling but I hope I got my point across.✌🏻
To echo and add to what others have said: It’s clear that you’re always trying to better yourself and always coming from a super genuine place, and it’s so good to see you setting an example through your actions. My suggestion would be to keep reading up to understand the context of what’s happening in the US, but also spend time reading not only about the UK’s colonial history, but what it’s like for POC in the UK right NOW. Doing so won’t weaken your support of the BLM movement here (the US, from my perspective) but, I think, be EQUALLY as productive and powerful. BLM matters everywhere, and any change you can help enact at home is just as / even more important as the causes you contribute to overseas.
I think it's important what you said about starting and not shying away from the topic because of the fear to make mistakes. I feel like a lot of people are using this as an easy way out. So it's nice to see someone with a platform sort of lead the way :)
i really enjoyed this vlog! i've been loving your content even more lately, helps a lot with my anxiety to watch videos like this. would love to see what books you have on your coffee table/art or art history books in your collection! :) sending love
I agree with some of the other comments, please don't just focus on the U.S. As an Irish person, I know without a doubt that the British education system does not teach people the true impact of the atrocities committed by the British throughout the world, so even if you think you know your own history, I would suggest going back and re-examining. The legacy of colonialism has had lasting complicated consequences for so so many. From what I have seen, the Black Lives Matter movement here in Ireland is calling for an end to Direct Provision, which is the Irish system of accommodation for asylum seekers. It is an inhumane racist system. I'm glad that while standing in solidarity with the U.S. we are also looking at ourselves and what needs to change in our own country. I'm not sure how helpful it is to compare how bad racism is in different countries. The fact is racism happens everywhere, and as someone who lives in Ireland I can have more of a real impact on what happens here. Racism is a HUGE problem in the UK and I know you do acknowledge that but I wonder if saying the problem is worse in America slightly undermines the racism that POC experience in the UK? I do not think you meant to do that in anyway but just a thought. I'm so glad you are opening up this conversation and can't wait for it to continue. I completely relate to the struggle you describe of wanting to help but knowing you will inevitably say the wrong thing because you're still learning. Ultimately accepting our own ignorance and white privilege is the only way to move forward.
Thank you for using your platform to discuss the BLM movement and by leading by example with the anti-racism work we collectively need to do to make a change once and for all! The links you've shared have been very helpful. You're absolutely right that we need continue to have those conversations no matter how uncomfortable they make us feel. (Rather than sweeping it under the rug; something us Brits are very good at doing in order to avoid confrontation and conflict!) Great choice of music by the way - Correction of Artist name in description *Moses Sumney :) Lots of love and support from a usually silent fan.
would also highly recommend We Were Eight Years in Power by Ta-Nehisi Coates, The Wretched of the Earth by Frantz Fanon, the play Sweat by Lynn Nottage, and any and all of Toni Morison's work
My teachers best (and only) attempt at teaching a three month syllabus about slavery I. American History was putting Roots on in every lesson while he went on his phone. There was no effort to actually teach. It was clear my teacher couldn’t be bothered to educate himself and therefore educate us. I think it’s important for British history and racism to be taught in British schools. It will remove the separation that slavery was an American problem.
In US history it’s really important to recognise the genocide of the indigenous people. Atrocities still take place, google Dakota access pipeline. Also, it’s not just for you to inspire, some of your white followers will have been thinking this way for some time, also you will have some followers who are people of colour. Inspiration is a two way thing. I was thinking about Lemm Sissay and if you reconsidered that book through an anti racist lens you may respond differently. He was labelled as troublesome throughout his childhood, as a baby he was described as having good rhythm by a social worker. It’s racist tropes. And his mum, an educated middle class Ethiopian woman who came here to study, kept asking for him back but she was not respected by the authorities. Meanwhile I respect your vulnerability and courage. And your style ofc.
Although this is sparked by the racism against black people, and rightfully so it should be the focus. But Racism in the UK is not only about the colour of the skin. I lived in London for over 15 years and became a British citizen, but ethnically I'm not white. And although my skin is as light as any white person's even I experienced racism while living in the UK. It is not as "in your face" as perhaps black people experience, but it is still very much there. It is simply because you're different and hence, you're not "us". British (amongst others) are responsible for a lot of atrocities such as slavery, colonialism, etc but never seem to take any responsibility for those actions. I don't think that white supremacy is solely a US issue, I think it was birthed in the UK (and other white European countries) and migrated to the US.
Another book suggestion! The Corner: A Year in the Life of an Inner-City Neighborhood by David Simon and Ed Burns. There's an HBO adaptation on youtube as well. It's centered around the relationship between drugs and black-centric communities in the US; I had a lot of prejudices about drug abusers before reading this and I definitely gained a new perspective about the fallacies some people have assuming people can "get out" of a toxic neighborhood.
hi Lizzy, my 2 cent would be... I know your reading about the US history, but I would say to bring it right back home to here in the UK. Our plight is much different. And I think what you will learn is that black history in Britain is your (white) history. @Akala music speaks lots on this issue and I would recommend his scholarship. I am glad that you are educating yourself although I do find it absurd that it’s an ‘awaken’ for many white people, but guess best to start somewhere 🤗
I'd recommend reading The New Jim Crow, this book opened my eyes a few years ago and I believe everybody should read it to get an understanding of at least some of the issues.
I couldn’t agree more that it is so important to be properly educated on a subject and this doesn’t just apply to racism. I wish everyone would know the facts before rushing in with a comment or opinion about a huge array of topics.
got an everlane package in the mail today! the second time i’ve ever shopped there (first was over a year ago) and is it just me or is the quality not really there anymore? i bought both cotton and recashmere pieces and the fabrics feel paper thin and the cotton polo i bought is pretty much see through. plus the color looks very off, compared to what’s advertised... it’s wearable i guess, but not worth it for me. i had such a good experience with their cotton tees last year so idk what to think.
Lizzy Hadfield the author is a friend of my mum and honestly this woman has had the most heartbreaking and truly inspiring life, definitely research her! X
Lizzy Hadfield I’m also sixteen and i feel like its the duty of young people to educate themselves, and be aware of the world they are growing up in, and basically have the balls to change it
@@LizzyHadfield I saw the author post somewhere that she'd rather people buy it secondhand, maybe have a look at www.abebooks.co.uk/ or somewhere like that? The audiobook is also really good as it's her own voice
Thanks for sharing your willingness to learn and change on your platform. I suggest your second point of call in the book ''Why I'm No Longer Talking to White People About Race' by Reni Eddo Lodge as it discussed the systematic structural racism that occurs in the UK and sheds a light on the long history of black people and oppression that's occurred in the UK - of which ironically we often are less aware of than the US. It was a real game changer for me in shifting my understanding and enabling me to build the appropriate vocabulary to discuss race in the UK.
Thanks for having this tough conversation and not turning away. I do subscribe to a large number of White women and as an African American women I watch to see how you move through the world unencumbered, to check out of my everyday issues. With that said: With brands, do you intend to refuse free products or trips from brands if they are not inclusive. I would imagine this would alter things. I’m not up on politics in the UK, because of the mess that is happening in the US. It is more than I can take at times, but I thought the foundation of Brexit was race related with the desire to close the boarders to refugees. I believe race is just as big of an issue in Britain as it is in the US with barriers in education and employment. I am happy to hear your contributions and interest to learn more about other cultures and issues to at least know what it feels like to be me. Thank you, big hugs from Florida❣️
I went to the protest in Edinburgh and felt so conscious that as a white person in a mask and baseball cap cycling around, I was totally safe but that if I was black, I’d probably have to think about what I was wearing and change my behaviour just to make it clear that I wasn’t looking like a ‘thug’ (I hate that word but priti Patel keeps using it).
Another book I would reccomend is Natives by Akala. It's a mix up of British colonial history/ institutional racism and how it shaped his life as a black person in Britain. It's important to read about the black experience through a man's eyes as well as a woman's as we experience different things.
I really recommend Natives by Akala for a more UK perspective on racism & class. I grew up in London in a very mixed school and I've always had friends from various ethnicities. I've always said that 'I don't see colour' and that we are all equal and until reading Akala's book, i never realised that what i said was problematic and came from a privileged perspective. It's important we keep on learning and we have so many things ingrained that we also need to un-learn.
There are a lot of the same book titles being thrown around on social media and in the news- if anyone is looking for different books regarding abolition and black struggle Verso Books has compiled a list, these are more specific to certain issues rather than "racism" as a topic: www.versobooks.com/lists/4732-abolition-and-black-struggle I also think its important to go beyond books that are revolving around whiteness
I did walk into Piccadilly (on my daily walk) when we were on tight lockdown and it was actually quite eerie. An absolute ghost town, 28 days later vibe. Just a few cyclists, homeless guys looking for cigarettes and the odd police car - very weird. I bought a guy a sandwich and dragged my sorry arse back home to SE.
Hey Lindsey, I love your heart and your willingness to continue to speak up and educate yourself on diversity and white privilege. As a black woman, I’ve been talking to my white friends about meaningful ways they can show up (literally) for the black community. Please please don’t think I’m self promoting bc I’m not but, I made a post on my ig on 6/2 and 6/3 (@shewhodoeslife)about ways in which white allies and white friends can go beyond the books to help continue to educate themselves and support and amplify black voices. Essentially, I wrote about encouraging white allies to show up in black communities through mentorship, and volunteering at organizations that support black families in need, etc. Just passing along in case you are interested in suggestions on ways to be involved beyond the spine of a book. Keep up the great work! Thanks Lindsey!!
As a white American woman, I understand your instinct to think that things are 'worse' in America. The overt brutality of many of the racist acts committed by police officers and many others is shocking, but I think it's important to remember that racism is cultural. Every country will conduct overt and subversive racism based on its own cultural customs. For example in the UK one of the things I as an American find shocking is how racist and classist the housing and letting markets are. You have a shortage of housing in this country, your markets are saturated, allowing the letting agencies and landlords to conduct extreme and invasive procedures and protocols that disproportionately affect POC and poor people. This is racism. While global change is necessary and its tempting to have our eyes drawn to the extreme behaviour in the US, I think focusing on what is happening here right in front of you, in your daily life (for example, are there any POC living in your neighbourhood?) is the best way you can help other people. Right now it seems like so many white influencers are missing the obvious because they're too busy having their minds blown over the history of colonialism.
If your looking for alternative online bookstores to amazon- the ethical revolution website has a list of recommended book sellers who pay their taxes :)
I highly recommend reading the True History of Paradise by Margaret Cezaire-Thompson which focuses on a mixed-race female dynasty in Jamaica. It is so well-written and a fascinating story!
And I would love love love for you and Linda to do an IGTV about your own understanding of race and racism within the influencer sphere and in the UK and the US (3 distinct topics) and to admit your own ignorance if you don't know about the slave trade or cotton or Britain's role in India or southern Africa and so on. Don't be scared to talk about it or you and your audience will never learn - you don't know what you don't know, right?
No one should ever apologise for something they have no control of, such as the colour of their skin. No one is defined by the colour of their skin and that goes for all the colours under the sun. All of us are privileged in our own way and there will always be someone who is ‘worse’ than you/me/them regardless of the skin colour, age, health, wealth, the country they were born in or the time in the history. This does not deny historical or current incidents of injustice against black or other minorities. Understanding one’s history, and I mean ALL history, not just the selected bits, gives a different perspective on life and helps to prevent atrocities from occurring in the future ( at least that’s the aim). However, if we want to effect change for a better and fairer world for black, brown, yellow, red, white (insert the colour that applies to you) we need to think with clear heads and not emotions. If I may, not all black or minority people holds themselves victims and it is quite condescending to keep insisting that they are as such.
As a Psychology student in Italy I would also like to remind everyone that humans are naturally made to discriminate, because in the history of our evolution, that saved our lives. So beware of the infinte amount of unconscious bias' we have towards the "others" (outgroup) and the "us" (ingroup). A lot of studies are still trying to figure out how to stop stigma and discrimination, but it's not easy bc it is an automatic response that our brains put in action.
You are right that being ‘a product of the times’ is not an excuse. You need to personally apologise for it taking 27 years for you to realise that you are privileged and that you are only now taking the steps to consider how the experiences of another race are different to yours. It will be uncomfortable but you must face it to be able to carry out the anti racist work you aspire to be a part of.
Ahhhh you should definitely get “Why I’m No Longer Talking to White People About Race by Reni Eddo-Lodge. She’s a British journalist and author and you’ll probably capture the relevant events present across the UK/US.
I HIGHLY recommend anyone reading this go and buy The Myth of Race by Robert Sussman (I could only find it on Kindle) - race is a cultural fabrication, not a biological truth like most of us have been told. I'm only early on in this book but it's made me so angry at how none of this was taught to me at school. It's interesting and *extremely* aggravating that we are not taught about many of the men who created this false idea of race as a scientific fact, or rather, we ARE taught about (at least some of) them but they're praised for their contributions to science and history, and their racist past is completely hidden.
Akua I think it’s also because at school we are not taught about colonialism . We are taught about the empire and cotton and silk etc but only in the economic aspects and nothing else.
@@curryg1 Shockingly though, having gone to school in London (previously living in Australia) from the age of 14, I learned absolutely nothing about Britain's history of slavery/empire at all. Not a single thing - until I specifically chose to learn about that side of History at A Levels (there were two choices though, meaning the other group didn't learn about it at all). This book makes it clear that the idea of race could/should be taught in both History and Science subjects.
I will speak from perspective of a white female so bear that in mind and don't get offended. For me there is a big problem with using the term "white privilege". I grew up in small poor country that most Europians don't see as part of the Europe - Serbia. I was, and am, very thankfull and blessed that I had roof over my head and a full belly. I studied and have BA and MA degree. But most of my life I haven't felt privileged. There was always some fool that would bully (bullies always find a reason to bully - somebody doesn't approve your skin color, your gender, hair, way you dress, way of thinking). So It hurts that now I have to put myself in a box of a privileged person even if I wasn't and have to say sorry for things that didn't do.. Now living in China in the times of corona, foreigners are not so welcomed, because of goverment politics and agendas. So once again not feeling so privileged. And yet, very thankfull that I have more than many. I was privileged in comparison to most of poor people from my country for example. But comparing to westeners - not at all. So what is a privilege in the end? And comparing to what and whom?
Vladislava Joldžić white privilege refers to white people not being discriminated against because of the colour of their skin, consider a black person in your current situation and the way their skin colour would affect their life negatively. White privilege doesn’t mean you can’t be bullied and it also doesn’t mean that (I assume mainly) western europeans do not see you as a european or see you as less, this is definitely a problem in europe but it is not affected by your skin colour. I hope I explained it properly, white people can experience hardships in their lives but it won’t be because of their skin colour. It feels uncomfortable to hear and when I first heard it it didn’t sit well with me either but I learned that white privilege isn’t about telling white people that everything in their life is easy but that we are privileged because POC get less opportunities in life because of their skin colour which is not something we ecperience. Additionally I want to add that most of this discussion is centered around western countries and not so much around China and that you can be very right about foreigners not being particularly welcomed but from what I have seen this is even worse for POC especially black people. I hope that this has made it clear that white privilege is not meant to make you feel guilty but rather to make you feel aware because so many white people aren’t aware of their privilege.
Lizzy please stop and think about when you say America is worse. It undermines Britain’s involvement in history and the systematic micro aggressions that still exist and how people continue to benefit from that privilege
Hey Lizzy, I highly highly recommend giving Sam Harris's lastest podcast episode 'Can We Pull Back From The Brink' a listen. It clarified things I was too scared to ask. Some of the points seem jarring, or even counterintuitive in light of what has happened. But I was surprised at how it changed my perspective on things. It can be really tough to begin to deconstruct what is going on in the world right now, and especially how best to talk about it. But opening up the space for conversation is essential and I think you made a brilliant point in saying we should all try have these discussions- despite the fear of getting things wrong or upsetting people. I'm really am hopeful that most of our intentions right now are set on trying to make a positive change. ua-cam.com/video/vmgxtcbc4iU/v-deo.html
Your vlogs have been my fav recently! Also, the intro was very appreciated. I love when you talk about literature and recommend stuff, especially in times like these. Edit: omg shit and chat - what a concept ahah
I’m angry. As a brown woman, I didn’t have the luxury to learn about racism reading a book in the comfort of my own home. I stopped talking about race with white people because it would fuel my anger even more so being showered by “white people discovering racism” for the last weeks is making me so angry. I try to remember that, even if I was living it, it took me time, discussions and readings to get to where I’m at. I don’t know what you (white people) are planning to do to dismantle white supremacy around the world (please do not undermine UK racism using the US, it’s not our lane as non black people to decide where it’s worse to be a black person. Edson Da Costa was killed is London in 2017 by a police officer who used exactly the same technique as George Floyd’s murderer did, technique still authorized in the UK) but I read a lot of “I’m educating myself, I’m learning and will have the conversations I need to have offline”. I get that it’s something that needs to be done but when are you going to take action? I see POC naming and shaming the companies they work for/with, putting themselves in way more uncomfortable positions than white people learning that they/their professional and personal life are full of racists. POC and especially black women don’t have a choice, our whole life is, to say the least, uncomfortable. I know white people won’t save us, but if you could at least handle your people and hold them accountable. If I hear one more person IRL or online saying how they are having “uncomfortable” conversations with their boyfriend or family I’m gonna snap. We have a system to dismantle, we don’t have time to explain to your boyfriend why he should consider black people as part of the humanity. I saw on Twitter somebody say “white supremacy won’t die until white people see it as a white issue they need to solve rather than a black issue they need to empathize with.” That’s why I’m angry I don’t feel like it’s happening. But this morning I saw Angela Davis saying that she doesn’t know if she ever experienced this kind of global challenge to racism and the consequences of slavery”, I saw what happened in Bristol and the way it resonated in France and it makes me hopeful and less angry. I need to focus on my people and their light instead of focusing on what white people are doing. (And in case it’s not obvious of course there are no personal attacks in what I say, I just needed to vent)
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H Mo I’m sorry you have to go through the same, I wish us peace. (And something I do to keep going is running or taking long walk listening to 90’s music)
I agree....and in fact hearing all these white people discover it for the first time, as well meaning as they are, infuriates and disgusts me further. The utter ignorance and privilege and all the talk about how "uncomfortable" it is for THEM. LMFAO! REALLY? Try living it for even one day! I am furious about what they've done to me, what they've done to my father, just the psychological damage the whole system inflicts on POC. and the rich white influencers are going to read books and learn and feel uncomfy for a bit....wonderful.
This is a brilliant comment. This is exactly what needs to be said to white people just learning about institutional racism. Sending you love and hoping you're able to get some rest and peace admist everything.
I also try to stay out of white folks discussions/competitions of who’s more “woke”! White men telling me my experience is only in my head, and there’s no reason to perceive you are treated differently! I’m in my 50’s and old enough to remember how much worse it was. Yes, worse! But? In California, there a false sense of chill. It’s not that chill. It’s a bubbling pot. I’m grateful to the younger people who are not willing to accept this situation any longer!
*i am speaking as asian (Southasian/centralasian) Australia woman* i would say that a trend i have seen amongst white influencers especially from canada and the uk (and other countries in europe) is the focusing on *america* rather than the deeply entrenched racism within their own countries. it shocks me everytime i meet someone from the uk here in Aus, and find out how little they know about their own colonial history.(tbh there is a lot more to be said about the continued british immigration to aus and subsequent continuation of the colonial legacy_) in saying that i would suggest perhaps focusing on Englands role in exporting the current racist system and values that are pervasive across the world. The majority of Europes wealth was built up via violent colonial exploitation, so it is ...odd to me when the world see this as an *America* based issue. I honesty do not mean this maliciously at all. for me i think people need to reach a point of realising this cant be 'fixed' its not a 'problem',as it were, in the current system, it is the system, the regulations, the framework itself that is sick, society is functioning the way it was designed to it was created on the basis of the exploitation and oppression of BIPOC, and thus i think its necessary to engage with the 'revolutionary', rather than the bandaid fixes. Also maybe dont focus on just academic literature and that but take stock of how much in your life comes from or involves any kind of nonwhite bipoc input, focus, ideas. Be it the movies you watch the music you listen to the people you talk to the makeup you use the clothes you wear the news you read the food you eat the local store you chose to shop at etc. just take a moment to pause and take stock of it all.
Thank you for the comment, it is not coming across as malicious at all! A few commenters have mentioned the issue of colonialism- the Zinn book does open with a lot of information around that (again, in relation to America). I will definitely make sure to research wider around the topic. I think as the current conversation has been so focused on America that became my starting point to this huge amount of reading/research that needs to be done - but like I say, I promise to make sure I keep this broad. Thank you again for your comment xxx
PERFECT comment 👏
Also look up the Irish 'Famine' now known as The Great Hunger. It was not caused by blight it was caused by English Landlords withholding food.
I’m not usually one for comments but agreed this is such an important topic! As a black person in the U.K. this time has been incredibly draining. I think the biggest challenge is feeling like I haven’t had to words to join in the conversation as much as I would want, because it’s something you learn to suppress so it almost goes against everything you know to share your negative experiences. Seeing the reaction on social media has been amazing but I’ve really had to limit how much I’m going on it as it’s become quite overwhelming. The same way that I’m trying to take the time to process this all, I hope brands/ the media/ individuals also take time to be able to implement lasting change- so it doesn’t become a hashtag that fizzles out! But this definitely does feel like the start of a more tangible shift.
The media needs to highlight racism which occurs all over the world, not just America and the UK. The Australian history of Aboriginal people where ENGLAND colonized Australia and killed Aboriginal people, attempted genocide against them, classified indigenous people as "flora and fauna," and over caused four hundred indigenous murders in custody, is not taught anywhere but Australia. It should be taught in England considering that they are the country responsible for this colonization and institutionalized racism against Indigenous Australians. It is infuriating to witness English people talk about how they are trying to educate themselves on the history of American racism and advocating for it to be taught in English schools whilst completely ignoring Australia whilst still insisting that they are educating themselves.
Ireland also. Look at what caused the Famine. It wasn't potato blight it was English landlords.
^^^ THIS, ABSOLUTELY, THIS
As a black person the topic is making me feel really uncomfortable. Although it’s nice to see people of all different nationalities coming together to support us , it’s making me increasingly uncomfortable about going outside. It’s making me even more aware of my skin colour and how people are going to respond to me in this current situation.
I had a chat with a white friend the other day and she was shocked to find out that I’d cross the road sometimes if I saw a white female coming towards me - I do that so that said women wouldn’t think I was a threat (this would depend on the time of day) If it is daytime I’m less likely to have this thought process. I find myself smiling at the little old white lady so she would think I was friendly and not threatening. ( I’m aware the generation in their 60’s are generally more racist , through discussions over the years my white freinds have told me this of their own parents and grandparents. It makes me feel uncomfortable that i could be making someone else uncomfortable because of the colour of my skin. I’m just someone that wants to be liked as I think I’m a good person with good morals. I’m a peaceful person. The BLM is good in so many ways but it’s also aggravating people like Tommy Robinson. And I dread this march that is suppose to be happening on Saturday, as Tommy has made a video talking about bringing his following of hooligans into central London where the BLM protests will take place🙁
I'm just going to say this as a 23 year old black American, if those people were uncomfortable by your skin now, they were uncomfortable before. If they would say something to you about it now, they would have before as well. It is not your duty to make them feel comfortable, because you will never succeed (I learned that at a very young age and it wasn't easy). Basically my point is that you let racists win when you hide inside. You fear is so very valid but you cannot let it consume you and completely change how you live your life. Obviously easier said than done.
On behalf of us white women, I am truly sorry that you were ever made to think that us white women think of black women as a threat. It’s so fucked up that you have to think like that. And I promise you to call my friends and family or any white person for that matter out on their behaviour if I ever see them cross the street to avoid a black person or hold on to their bags or any other shit like that.
@@buttercupp0897 I am afraid that many whites will be more racist after all the looting and destroying.
Mareeen14 Thank you for taking that onboard. By the sounds of it you are not the problem, but the minority are giving other white people a bad name. X
This made me so sad to read. You sound as though you have a beautiful soul
yo! appreciate you using your voice & platform. i’m black british (caribbean) & my parents took extra steps to make sure i knew my history. there’s no right place to start, we aren’t born knowing. everybody starts somewhere & there will be mistakes! this is a marathon, not a sprint. happy to see so many people taking first steps in doing the work! 🖤
I’m a recently qualified secondary school history teacher and we have been having lots of discussions about how to be more explicit about the Slave trade and Britain’s imperial past, as well as looking at the experience of immigrants in the uk and racism. Really glad you’re talking about this!
Im questioning the real reason why “influencers were silent before , there have been numerous videos of black peoples death on social media, numerous calls for diversity and inclusion in fashion and beauty industries before June 2020. Admission of complicity would go a long way in making real changes in ones life and in the world.
I feel like if there wasn't a pandemic the situation might not have had the same effect as it has had. Like it would have generated outrage and then people would have moved on. The pandemic just helped magnify the shortcomings (in many aspects) of the societies we live in. With that some people are making realisation and some are just riding the wave to not seem ignorant.
One thing people have said is that it was a combination of they literally watched a man die, and call for his mother, and that click that this keeps happening. I’m African-American, but I intentionally did not watch the video. It already hurts too much.
We had a man hunted and man who a group watched as he died for 8.46 minutes (it was not quick) a woman was killed in her home, black people accosted for wearing masks and for not wearing masks. Americans angered about the lack our government showed to all humans lives and then the climate over the last 4 year it was a breaking point (again,we have had a few and they all get pushed under the rug quickly). I’m proud all 50 states did protest and a lot of the world. Maybe now we can start restructuring how the world is run. Maybe now we can stop making black people scared for their lives, maybe now.
I appreciate your vulnerability, kindness, and openness. Thank you
Idk man...
The last thing I (speaking for myself) want is for people to look at us through this lens of perpetual sympathy or to assume that our existence is riddled with constant trauma and self loathing, because that is a whole different set of othering I don't want to deal with. Especially if Starbucks ain't offering free coffees. I'm not in the business of telling people what to do or read, but I do hope when you are looking at subjects that revolve around the system of racism and the overt/covert prejudice that follows, you will delve into works from black people that highlight blackness in a positive way or works from black writers that who just do have happened to write a good book about things that most people regardless of colour, write about.
Considering that you're into fashion and art, you could look into black photographers who have documented black culture from their own cultural perspective and in a really beautiful way (like Malik Sidibe and James Barnor), and other black artists as well.
Have you heard of Zanele Muholi? Her portraits are amazing. They're so striking and powerful! She was meant to have a solo exhibition at Tate Modern, but of course...covid.
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@@nkj321 no I haven't. I'll check her out, though. Thank you.
They talked about this in The High Low podcast today! So important, so true!
Thank you so much for this comment - in my next video I will discuss books I have read in the past written by black writers, that, as you say, haven't been picked out because they are written by a black writer writing just about race. Will definitely look into those photographers too - thank you so much xx
Thank you for using your platform to speak out, Lizzy. You're one of the only style influencers I follow who has continued to educate by reading books - even before it was "cool" to do so. As an American, it's heartening to see people in other parts of the world marching and protesting in solidarity. :)
I think it’s worth noting that whilst police brutality (and the fatality rate attached to this) is worse in the U.S, racism itself isn’t any better in the U.K. And if you live outside of London, the situation is almost always worse. Brits have done a great job of suppressing these things but you only have to look at how validated racists felt to express their views in the run up to Brexit. As soon as they start to feel like the environment is safer for them to express their horrible opinions on race, they become louder.
That book looks more like punishment than education. If you need a break from all that learning, I recommend interviews to the classics, Malcom X, MLK Jr, James Baldwin (check out the Baldwin-Buckley debate), plus pay attention to how the questions are been frased. Great women Maya Angelou, Toni Morrison (get some tissues) and Alice Walker to name a few. UK based, compulsory reading Akala and Remi Eddo-Lodge. And since I like poetry Lucille Clifton, Elizabeth Acevedo, Kaur and Warsan Shire (not all black, but with very relatable experiences). As always thanks for the great music!
I've got a uni exam in a few hours so I'm having a last little break while having breakfast and this is just what I needed
Good luck
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Hope your Uni exam went well. I know that feeling literally hours before an exam. Long time ago for myself! Wish you an abundance of success ✨
@@nutauf7587 thank you x
@@chinoatz thanks!! x
I think that demanding transparency on the BAME pay gap is a good way to get to grips with how seriously companies take inclusivity and rate how we value those
I myself have been reticent even as a black woman, unable to organize or articulate my thoughts around this. I’ve wrestled between encouragement by those who acknowledge change needs to happen, and cynicism of those putting on a show to ease feelings of guilt. But I’m hoping that even the worst of events can be used for good, as more people are becoming equipped to confront the underlying issues at play (supremacy and entitlement) in the small moments of everyday interactions. And recognize these plagues come in so many other forms besides racism, like sexism, ageism, homophobia, nationalism, etc, so we all have work to do.
I appreciate your honesty in stating your perspective and how you’re more open to really thinking about how others are treated. I know you actually do read normally. Many UA-camrs are talking about studying the situation, but it’s like they’re reading a speech. For some, it’s better to say nothing. I think Saul Williams would be interesting for you to research. He’s a poet, musician, and actor. So interesting! His spoken word is amazing!
some advise from someone of colour...the first step is to recognise your own biases. We all have these, it's normal for humans to fear or make judgement against what is different to them or what they don't know. So first step is to be aware of your own biases, and ask yourself why do you feel this way. Is it something you learned, is it based on a negative experience? if you learned, then where did you get this information? For example, the idea that black people are violent, did you experience direct violence or did you get this from cinema/television/music etc... Once you determine the source, try to see if this rationally makes sense or if it is based on ignorance/miseducation. Second step is not to ignore colour and say that 'you do not see colour' because that is part of the problem. While saying that might be pc, it doesn't acknowledge that there is an issue here to be addressed, but brushes it under the carpet. Colour is there and it exists, so it has to be addressed in a direct way in order to make up for the history of mistreatment. The idea of 'not seeing colour' is just a pretty narrative that was designed to sugarcoat a problem that privileged people are uncomfortable with. In order to effect change in a deliberate way, you will need to be active and blunt. If a parent has two children, one healthy and one born in a way that disadvantages them, they would do everything in their power to make sure the disadvantaged child gets a fair and equal opportunity in life so that they are not held back by something that was not in their control. It would not be enough in this scenario for the parent to say 'both my kids are exactly the same' because doing that does not address the issue. It will be hard for white people to become accustomed to this way of thinking after years of not having to think about it, but being critical of your environment is an important first step. Asking why are they no black x, y and z in this room will be hard to remember when you are surrounded by people who look like you but it has to be done.
A really interesting, thoughtful comment - thank you x
Yeah because it's not just white people who are anti black. In fact I feel like non black POC outperform whites nowadays when it comes to being anti black but I'm not saying anything...
Its not just enough to read and discuss its important to put in to action. From all your blogs pay attention to how much inclusion have you considered. Your friends and bloggers are mostly white. Companies as well mostly sponsors white bloggers. Your blogs pretty much represent white ideas and culture and lifestyle how much have you really looked at the world in color and shades? I am sorry if i am being brutally honest and you might not like what i am saying. Being mindful about always being more inclusive about everything you do will be a constant work in progress.
I couldn’t have said it better myself. Words are nice but mean nothing without conscious action
book recs: the bluest eye- toni morrison, zami- audre lorde, freedom is a constant struggle- angela Davis, a fire next time- James baldwin
Anything from Toni Morrison is great. I read all I could find from her in the public library back in highschool and still have vivid memories from those books now almost 15 years later.
By the way. If someone that young reads this. Back then I had a small lecture on Morrison's books as part of "public speaking practice" we had to do (the topics were free choice) and the teacher appreciated I chose sth that was important but not part of our East European curriculum. I did the same with propaganda books about Lenin also :) the hormonal teenagers actually listened. There are ways, try to find them xx
thank you for using your platform to speak on this Lizzy, not that I had any doubts that you would!
I wanted to add this into the conversation: it would be amazing if going forward you could focus on avoiding working with brands that don't include POC in their campaigns, influencers, exec board etc! I know it's impossible to know what goes on behind closed doors, but a lot of brands have been put in the spotlight for not being inclusive and really just racist in their operations. I think as an 'influencer' that would be a really amazing way for you to contribute. also, making sure you're not putting your money into those brands / companies as well and incorporating some amazing black-owned brands!!
this is a Google Doc sheet of Black Owned brands etc if anyone is looking to support 🖤
docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1ZiWjlfqc02OeWL4hTNZymVT_kyNnO42xG-hucO3rC0E/edit?usp=sharing
PS. I could have literally done a little dance because I was so happy to see you had uploaded a vlog 😌 I am a newer subscriber and I have been absolutely enthralled with your content, it's virtually all I have been watching. I hope you're doing so so well, lots of positive energy & love from Montréal 💛
27 years and never thought about it. As a young-ish white person I find that so utterly bemusing, unless one has never lived in the UK, read or watched the news. Baffling.
Truly shocking isn’t it? Then again, look at her circle of friends and background and then it becomes less shocking.
She provided a thoughtful, honest answer. Most white people have never really thought about it, more than a passing thought. I’ve never thought what it’s like being a Caucasian man from Australia. This is normal, unless there’s a specific reason to do so.
I know lots of people who have also never thought about it, as they've never been confronted by the truth like we are now. Racism in the UK is so much more subtle (but absolutely still there), but I think the fact she is addressing it now is great. Thanks for being open Lizzie, happy to see so many people with followings sharing resources so Black folk aren't having to do the labour! X
this was the reaction I had as well. not just Lizzy but all influencers, acting like they’ve only just heard about institutional racism. not really sure what to say to people talking about “educating themselves” when they’re 27 and have a university degree and live in the UK.
edit: this is something I feel very angry about, and very shocked/disappointed in a lot of people, I’m not saying it to be mean (just to clarify)
This is white privilege at work though, before that lightbulb moment that changes everything, it literally blinds you to the deeply entrenched, systemic racism around you that affects everything. Combine that with the pitiful lack of education given in school and a "colourblind" approach to race and you can often get to your 20s without really questioning this or checking your own privilege.
I completely agree with your feelings of being sheltered due to privilege, and because of my personal circumstances (extreme anxiety in large groups etc....) and the fact that I don't really use social media for anything other than following people, I've felt paralysed and useless in moving the message forward. I've been trying to use this time to donate, reflect and self educate as best I can, but I can't help but feel that that's not enough and it's honestly breaking my heart.
The U.K. has a huge race problem. 2 examples of systemic racism in the UK in the last few years are - the windrush scandal (2018) and Grenfell tower fire (2017). The windrush scandal was a shocking example of the immigration system being used to wrongfully deport British people who had never officially become citizens but had lived their entire lives in the U.K. and paid taxes, had children and grandchildren etc. deported to places they had no connections and hadn’t been to since childhood. Grenfell fire mostly affected POC I believe. I’m sure there are many more examples but these were ones that made it to the mainstream media and it’s appalling at how these people were treated by their own government.
www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/mar/21/windrush-institutional-racism-hostile-environment
www.shareable.net/the-response-podcast-inequality-structural-racism-and-the-fight-for-justice-after-the-grenfell-tower-fire/
Some articles about these 2 issues if you are interested.
I would echo people's thoughts on here about focusing on racism in the UK/colonialism rather than on problems in the US. Of course, racism is a global issue, and currently what is happening in America is on everyone's minds, but why would you not focus on the racism that is happening in your own community? Learning about racism in other countries is useful, but the system that you live in needs to be dismantled as well.
A great fiction book to recommend is ‘how long ‘til black history month’ by N K Jemisin. It’s a collection of short stories that offers a much needed contribution to our understanding of and imaginings about the past, present, and the future. Also her other novel, ‘The fifth season’ which buckles under the weight of systemic racism, income inequality and an environmental disaster. You get SO lost in her writing and I believe can really open your eyes to racial injustice through fiction. If you can’t deal with heavy factual reading I totally recommended these books by N K Jemisin ❤️
Thank you! I LOVED the Broken Earth Trilogy by Jemisin, so I will definitely order this! xx
I’m so happy you found your belt, losing things causes me such anxiety, even ppl losing their own stuff bothers me.
Regarding this current situation, I can’t describe the feeling but all those non black influencers( whites, Asians, southasaians) speaking for blm but most of them even don’t have black friends at least from what I seen online, never promoted black owned businesses, so is it that they are just protecting their image or this a genuine movement of self awareness regarding race.
I’m not judging anyone for not having black friends , i haven’t had a black friend since high school, some things it can be forced esp friendships. Anyway I’m rambling but I hope I got my point across.✌🏻
To echo and add to what others have said: It’s clear that you’re always trying to better yourself and always coming from a super genuine place, and it’s so good to see you setting an example through your actions.
My suggestion would be to keep reading up to understand the context of what’s happening in the US, but also spend time reading not only about the UK’s colonial history, but what it’s like for POC in the UK right NOW. Doing so won’t weaken your support of the BLM movement here (the US, from my perspective) but, I think, be EQUALLY as productive and powerful. BLM matters everywhere, and any change you can help enact at home is just as / even more important as the causes you contribute to overseas.
I think it's important what you said about starting and not shying away from the topic because of the fear to make mistakes. I feel like a lot of people are using this as an easy way out. So it's nice to see someone with a platform sort of lead the way :)
i really enjoyed this vlog! i've been loving your content even more lately, helps a lot with my anxiety to watch videos like this. would love to see what books you have on your coffee table/art or art history books in your collection! :) sending love
I agree with some of the other comments, please don't just focus on the U.S. As an Irish person, I know without a doubt that the British education system does not teach people the true impact of the atrocities committed by the British throughout the world, so even if you think you know your own history, I would suggest going back and re-examining. The legacy of colonialism has had lasting complicated consequences for so so many.
From what I have seen, the Black Lives Matter movement here in Ireland is calling for an end to Direct Provision, which is the Irish system of accommodation for asylum seekers. It is an inhumane racist system. I'm glad that while standing in solidarity with the U.S. we are also looking at ourselves and what needs to change in our own country. I'm not sure how helpful it is to compare how bad racism is in different countries. The fact is racism happens everywhere, and as someone who lives in Ireland I can have more of a real impact on what happens here. Racism is a HUGE problem in the UK and I know you do acknowledge that but I wonder if saying the problem is worse in America slightly undermines the racism that POC experience in the UK? I do not think you meant to do that in anyway but just a thought.
I'm so glad you are opening up this conversation and can't wait for it to continue. I completely relate to the struggle you describe of wanting to help but knowing you will inevitably say the wrong thing because you're still learning. Ultimately accepting our own ignorance and white privilege is the only way to move forward.
Thank you for using your platform to discuss the BLM movement and by leading by example with the anti-racism work we collectively need to do to make a change once and for all! The links you've shared have been very helpful. You're absolutely right that we need continue to have those conversations no matter how uncomfortable they make us feel. (Rather than sweeping it under the rug; something us Brits are very good at doing in order to avoid confrontation and conflict!)
Great choice of music by the way - Correction of Artist name in description *Moses Sumney :)
Lots of love and support from a usually silent fan.
I always always love how and when you tuck your shirts in and I love it when you wear shorts
I love you showing how your shirt is tucked in throughout the video and I love everything you talk about in the video
would also highly recommend We Were Eight Years in Power by Ta-Nehisi Coates, The Wretched of the Earth by Frantz Fanon, the play Sweat by Lynn Nottage, and any and all of Toni Morison's work
My teachers best (and only) attempt at teaching a three month syllabus about slavery I. American History was putting Roots on in every lesson while he went on his phone. There was no effort to actually teach. It was clear my teacher couldn’t be bothered to educate himself and therefore educate us.
I think it’s important for British history and racism to be taught in British schools. It will remove the separation that slavery was an American problem.
Would really recommend the podcast About Race with Reni Eddo-Lodge and Natives by Akala (book) to learn more about race in the UK
And Akala’s Oxford lecture ua-cam.com/video/WUtAxUQjwB4/v-deo.html
Yes to Natives by Akala for a UK based perspective!
How do you keep your whites white? The tops always look so amazingly new.
In US history it’s really important to recognise the genocide of the indigenous people. Atrocities still take place, google Dakota access pipeline. Also, it’s not just for you to inspire, some of your white followers will have been thinking this way for some time, also you will have some followers who are people of colour. Inspiration is a two way thing.
I was thinking about Lemm Sissay and if you reconsidered that book through an anti racist lens you may respond differently. He was labelled as troublesome throughout his childhood, as a baby he was described as having good rhythm by a social worker. It’s racist tropes. And his mum, an educated middle class Ethiopian woman who came here to study, kept asking for him back but she was not respected by the authorities.
Meanwhile I respect your vulnerability and courage. And your style ofc.
Although this is sparked by the racism against black people, and rightfully so it should be the focus. But Racism in the UK is not only about the colour of the skin. I lived in London for over 15 years and became a British citizen, but ethnically I'm not white. And although my skin is as light as any white person's even I experienced racism while living in the UK. It is not as "in your face" as perhaps black people experience, but it is still very much there. It is simply because you're different and hence, you're not "us". British (amongst others) are responsible for a lot of atrocities such as slavery, colonialism, etc but never seem to take any responsibility for those actions. I don't think that white supremacy is solely a US issue, I think it was birthed in the UK (and other white European countries) and migrated to the US.
Another book suggestion! The Corner: A Year in the Life of an Inner-City Neighborhood by David Simon and Ed Burns. There's an HBO adaptation on youtube as well. It's centered around the relationship between drugs and black-centric communities in the US; I had a lot of prejudices about drug abusers before reading this and I definitely gained a new perspective about the fallacies some people have assuming people can "get out" of a toxic neighborhood.
hi Lizzy, my 2 cent would be... I know your reading about the US history, but I would say to bring it right back home to here in the UK. Our plight is much different. And I think what you will learn is that black history in Britain is your (white) history. @Akala music speaks lots on this issue and I would recommend his scholarship. I am glad that you are educating yourself although I do find it absurd that it’s an ‘awaken’ for many white people, but guess best to start somewhere 🤗
I'd recommend reading The New Jim Crow, this book opened my eyes a few years ago and I believe everybody should read it to get an understanding of at least some of the issues.
I couldn’t agree more that it is so important to be properly educated on a subject and this doesn’t just apply to racism. I wish everyone would know the facts before rushing in with a comment or opinion about a huge array of topics.
got an everlane package in the mail today! the second time i’ve ever shopped there (first was over a year ago) and is it just me or is the quality not really there anymore? i bought both cotton and recashmere pieces and the fabrics feel paper thin and the cotton polo i bought is pretty much see through. plus the color looks very off, compared to what’s advertised... it’s wearable i guess, but not worth it for me. i had such a good experience with their cotton tees last year so idk what to think.
Love the intro to this video!
Would you ever consider starting a book club? Seems especially relevant given this time in history...
what workouts do you do?
I would really also recommend ‘why i’m no longer talking to white people about race’
Thank you! It’s been sold out everywhere (which is also amazing) but I keep looking for a copy! Xx
Lizzy Hadfield the author is a friend of my mum and honestly this woman has had the most heartbreaking and truly inspiring life, definitely research her! X
Lizzy Hadfield I’m also sixteen and i feel like its the duty of young people to educate themselves, and be aware of the world they are growing up in, and basically have the balls to change it
@@LizzyHadfield I saw the author post somewhere that she'd rather people buy it secondhand, maybe have a look at www.abebooks.co.uk/ or somewhere like that? The audiobook is also really good as it's her own voice
@@LizzyHadfield I managed to get one on Waterstones online few days ago!
Thanks for sharing your willingness to learn and change on your platform. I suggest your second point of call in the book ''Why I'm No Longer Talking to White People About Race' by Reni Eddo Lodge as it discussed the systematic structural racism that occurs in the UK and sheds a light on the long history of black people and oppression that's occurred in the UK - of which ironically we often are less aware of than the US. It was a real game changer for me in shifting my understanding and enabling me to build the appropriate vocabulary to discuss race in the UK.
You are the best 💕💕I love “girls who read”
Thanks for having this tough conversation and not turning away. I do subscribe to a large number of White women and as an African American women I watch to see how you move through the world unencumbered, to check out of my everyday issues. With that said: With brands, do you intend to refuse free products or trips from brands if they are not inclusive. I would imagine this would alter things. I’m not up on politics in the UK, because of the mess that is happening in the US. It is more than I can take at times, but I thought the foundation of Brexit was race related with the desire to close the boarders to refugees. I believe race is just as big of an issue in Britain as it is in the US with barriers in education and employment. I am happy to hear your contributions and interest to learn more about other cultures and issues to at least know what it feels like to be me. Thank you, big hugs from Florida❣️
I went to the protest in Edinburgh and felt so conscious that as a white person in a mask and baseball cap cycling around, I was totally safe but that if I was black, I’d probably have to think about what I was wearing and change my behaviour just to make it clear that I wasn’t looking like a ‘thug’ (I hate that word but priti Patel keeps using it).
Lets get comfortable with being uncomfortable, for then REAL change with come.
Another book I would reccomend is Natives by Akala. It's a mix up of British colonial history/ institutional racism and how it shaped his life as a black person in Britain. It's important to read about the black experience through a man's eyes as well as a woman's as we experience different things.
I'm not sure if you ever see my comments b/c I'm always late! but... are you thinking of Keith Richards hair??
I really recommend Natives by Akala for a more UK perspective on racism & class. I grew up in London in a very mixed school and I've always had friends from various ethnicities. I've always said that 'I don't see colour' and that we are all equal and until reading Akala's book, i never realised that what i said was problematic and came from a privileged perspective. It's important we keep on learning and we have so many things ingrained that we also need to un-learn.
There are a lot of the same book titles being thrown around on social media and in the news- if anyone is looking for different books regarding abolition and black struggle Verso Books has compiled a list, these are more specific to certain issues rather than "racism" as a topic: www.versobooks.com/lists/4732-abolition-and-black-struggle
I also think its important to go beyond books that are revolving around whiteness
I did walk into Piccadilly (on my daily walk) when we were on tight lockdown and it was actually quite eerie. An absolute ghost town, 28 days later vibe. Just a few cyclists, homeless guys looking for cigarettes and the odd police car - very weird. I bought a guy a sandwich and dragged my sorry arse back home to SE.
I think you were thinking of Rod Stewart in reference to the fri he issue hahaha
Hey Lindsey, I love your heart and your willingness to continue to speak up and educate yourself on diversity and white privilege.
As a black woman, I’ve been talking to my white friends about meaningful ways they can show up (literally) for the black community.
Please please don’t think I’m self promoting bc I’m not but, I made a post on my ig on 6/2 and 6/3 (@shewhodoeslife)about ways in which white allies and white friends can go beyond the books to help continue to educate themselves and support and amplify black voices.
Essentially, I wrote about encouraging white allies to show up in black communities through mentorship, and volunteering at organizations that support black families in need, etc. Just passing along in case you are interested in suggestions on ways to be involved beyond the spine of a book.
Keep up the great work!
Thanks Lindsey!!
Lizzie?
typing from my cell phone ...didn’t see the auto correct ..thanks for the point out
As a white American woman, I understand your instinct to think that things are 'worse' in America. The overt brutality of many of the racist acts committed by police officers and many others is shocking, but I think it's important to remember that racism is cultural. Every country will conduct overt and subversive racism based on its own cultural customs. For example in the UK one of the things I as an American find shocking is how racist and classist the housing and letting markets are. You have a shortage of housing in this country, your markets are saturated, allowing the letting agencies and landlords to conduct extreme and invasive procedures and protocols that disproportionately affect POC and poor people. This is racism. While global change is necessary and its tempting to have our eyes drawn to the extreme behaviour in the US, I think focusing on what is happening here right in front of you, in your daily life (for example, are there any POC living in your neighbourhood?) is the best way you can help other people. Right now it seems like so many white influencers are missing the obvious because they're too busy having their minds blown over the history of colonialism.
yes the Chanel belt!!!
Thank you lizzy.
If your looking for alternative online bookstores to amazon- the ethical revolution website has a list of recommended book sellers who pay their taxes :)
just love your vlogs 💜💜💜💜
I think your fringe is more 80’s Steve Perry from Journey than Jon Bon Jovi.
I highly recommend reading the True History of Paradise by Margaret Cezaire-Thompson which focuses on a mixed-race female dynasty in Jamaica. It is so well-written and a fascinating story!
And I would love love love for you and Linda to do an IGTV about your own understanding of race and racism within the influencer sphere and in the UK and the US (3 distinct topics) and to admit your own ignorance if you don't know about the slave trade or cotton or Britain's role in India or southern Africa and so on. Don't be scared to talk about it or you and your audience will never learn - you don't know what you don't know, right?
No one should ever apologise for something they have no control of, such as the colour of their skin. No one is defined by the colour of their skin and that goes for all the colours under the sun. All of us are privileged in our own way and there will always be someone who is ‘worse’ than you/me/them regardless of the skin colour, age, health, wealth, the country they were born in or the time in the history. This does not deny historical or current incidents of injustice against black or other minorities. Understanding one’s history, and I mean ALL history, not just the selected bits, gives a different perspective on life and helps to prevent atrocities from occurring in the future ( at least that’s the aim). However, if we want to effect change for a better and fairer world for black, brown, yellow, red, white (insert the colour that applies to you) we need to think with clear heads and not emotions. If I may, not all black or minority people holds themselves victims and it is quite condescending to keep insisting that they are as such.
change starts now
As a Psychology student in Italy I would also like to remind everyone that humans are naturally made to discriminate, because in the history of our evolution, that saved our lives. So beware of the infinte amount of unconscious bias' we have towards the "others" (outgroup) and the "us" (ingroup). A lot of studies are still trying to figure out how to stop stigma and discrimination, but it's not easy bc it is an automatic response that our brains put in action.
You are right that being ‘a product of the times’ is not an excuse. You need to personally apologise for it taking 27 years for you to realise that you are privileged and that you are only now taking the steps to consider how the experiences of another race are different to yours. It will be uncomfortable but you must face it to be able to carry out the anti racist work you aspire to be a part of.
Ahhhh you should definitely get “Why I’m No Longer Talking to White People About Race by Reni Eddo-Lodge. She’s a British journalist and author and you’ll probably capture the relevant events present across the UK/US.
I HIGHLY recommend anyone reading this go and buy The Myth of Race by Robert Sussman (I could only find it on Kindle) - race is a cultural fabrication, not a biological truth like most of us have been told. I'm only early on in this book but it's made me so angry at how none of this was taught to me at school. It's interesting and *extremely* aggravating that we are not taught about many of the men who created this false idea of race as a scientific fact, or rather, we ARE taught about (at least some of) them but they're praised for their contributions to science and history, and their racist past is completely hidden.
Akua I think it’s also because at school we are not taught about colonialism . We are taught about the empire and cotton and silk etc but only in the economic aspects and nothing else.
@@curryg1 Shockingly though, having gone to school in London (previously living in Australia) from the age of 14, I learned absolutely nothing about Britain's history of slavery/empire at all. Not a single thing - until I specifically chose to learn about that side of History at A Levels (there were two choices though, meaning the other group didn't learn about it at all). This book makes it clear that the idea of race could/should be taught in both History and Science subjects.
I will speak from perspective of a white female so bear that in mind and don't get offended. For me there is a big problem with using the term "white privilege". I grew up in small poor country that most Europians don't see as part of the Europe - Serbia. I was, and am, very thankfull and blessed that I had roof over my head and a full belly. I studied and have BA and MA degree. But most of my life I haven't felt privileged. There was always some fool that would bully (bullies always find a reason to bully - somebody doesn't approve your skin color, your gender, hair, way you dress, way of thinking). So It hurts that now I have to put myself in a box of a privileged person even if I wasn't and have to say sorry for things that didn't do.. Now living in China in the times of corona, foreigners are not so welcomed, because of goverment politics and agendas. So once again not feeling so privileged. And yet, very thankfull that I have more than many. I was privileged in comparison to most of poor people from my country for example. But comparing to westeners - not at all. So what is a privilege in the end? And comparing to what and whom?
Vladislava Joldžić white privilege refers to white people not being discriminated against because of the colour of their skin, consider a black person in your current situation and the way their skin colour would affect their life negatively. White privilege doesn’t mean you can’t be bullied and it also doesn’t mean that (I assume mainly) western europeans do not see you as a european or see you as less, this is definitely a problem in europe but it is not affected by your skin colour. I hope I explained it properly, white people can experience hardships in their lives but it won’t be because of their skin colour. It feels uncomfortable to hear and when I first heard it it didn’t sit well with me either but I learned that white privilege isn’t about telling white people that everything in their life is easy but that we are privileged because POC get less opportunities in life because of their skin colour which is not something we ecperience. Additionally I want to add that most of this discussion is centered around western countries and not so much around China and that you can be very right about foreigners not being particularly welcomed but from what I have seen this is even worse for POC especially black people. I hope that this has made it clear that white privilege is not meant to make you feel guilty but rather to make you feel aware because so many white people aren’t aware of their privilege.
I think you are looking for Rod Stewart! 🤣🤣🤣🤣
That’s what I was thinking!
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Read „Great Things“ by Jodi Picoult.
Love from Germany XXX
Lizzy please stop and think about when you say America is worse. It undermines Britain’s involvement in history and the systematic micro aggressions that still exist and how people continue to benefit from that privilege
Hey Lizzy, I highly highly recommend giving Sam Harris's lastest podcast episode 'Can We Pull Back From The Brink' a listen. It clarified things I was too scared to ask. Some of the points seem jarring, or even counterintuitive in light of what has happened. But I was surprised at how it changed my perspective on things. It can be really tough to begin to deconstruct what is going on in the world right now, and especially how best to talk about it. But opening up the space for conversation is essential and I think you made a brilliant point in saying we should all try have these discussions- despite the fear of getting things wrong or upsetting people. I'm really am hopeful that most of our intentions right now are set on trying to make a positive change. ua-cam.com/video/vmgxtcbc4iU/v-deo.html
im not one of these people i have NEVER been this early aha
It's not black history, but African History. If you are going to speak on this platform, you need to use appropriate language.
Your vlogs have been my fav recently! Also, the intro was very appreciated. I love when you talk about literature and recommend stuff, especially in times like these.
Edit: omg shit and chat - what a concept ahah