I am a clinicql psychology professor PhD '79 retired here is my professional diagnosis NUTS oh and blind, but Im not qualified to make that last diagnosis, just speculating what may be happening in a situation like this...especially the opthalmic condition of the younger woman.
A "throuple" is just a new name for a "ménage á trois." It's almost impossible for these to work. They rarely end well. Sexual jealousy DOES exist. Always has; always will.
I have been part of a 3-person relationship for 6 years now. MFF. We all live together. It wasn't on purpose, but it ended up that way. There's no arguing. It's always been a relaxed environment. I think we all are wired for it. We each have our own rooms. We go out together/ we partner up randomly. We all just work and live our lives. And we're all happy and enjoy each other's company. My neighbor calls me Mr President lol
Two DRUNK women fighting over an equally drunk used car salesman. I love how Dr. Grande says all of this could’ve been avoided if they would have had higher standards. So true!
I found myself wondering where they got 1) a walking stick, and 2) a paddle? These things are not commonly found lying around motel rooms - although given the motel was waterside, there may well have been canoes outside. Walking stick?
@@badlandskid Probably others previous passangers forget it and decided to just leave it there. Happens a lot in hotels. Where I work someone forgot a double denture and later called to apologize and to us to dispose it.
There's no reason they can't work as well as a monogamy. In the end, the problems in a relationship come from the people. I mean, statistically the most likely reason for a person to get murdered is domestic violence. And those don't even always involve another man. How many cases has Dr Grande covered where the motivation for murder was just ENDING the relationship.
It is sad that the judgement of all the individuals was impaired by alcohol use. The stressors of modern society are so great that people often turn to alcohol and drugs, for relief, which are often cheaper than access to healthier escape/entertainment options such as sports etc.
The two women beat the crap out of each other naked and she only hit her one time during the murder? I don’t believe that for a second. Christina wanted her out of the picture period. Aileen was way more attractive and the huge one was losing the guy to the more attractive one. Guess she didn’t love him too much she was quick to make a deal and sell him out.
When a person is valued by someone, that person suddenly becomes valuable to others. Look at all the hideous famous ppl who have hot spouses. Girls line up for a night with a basketball player that looks like a straight up mutant because he’s been deemed valuable by other women for one reason or another.
Their shadow employees. The guy is just on the payroll as his family owns the business among other business interests. The rich kid needs something to do imo. Other managers actually run the business.
It made no sense to keep Kristina. He could always replace over another employee. He couldn’t have been too concerned about losing money for the dealership if he’s traipsing across the country without a care in the world.
They opened themselves up to the influence of evil spirits, I think. The more you give, the more the devil is able to take (step by step, going from bad to worse).
There is a Eastpointe, Michigan, too. Fun fact it used to be called East Detroit, but i think they changed the name in the '90s so people wouldn't think it was like Detroit, which is pretty silly.
Its weird hearing about, and seeing, people act in ways that arent beneficial to them or anyone else. Even though they lacked the wisdom to sort this situation out, they could have hired counsellors that could unpack, de-escalate, and seperate them for their own good. But no.
I agree that could happen, but not in this crowd. It would have disrupted the "we drink til we drop then do it again again again train." I'm an alcoholic/addict, what I say is fact based on observation of it, both within and without. So you know, their boozing was no excuse for what happened. Far from it. And let's not forget the one who did the killing has a dad who is a cop. She thought she could get away with murder because her dad was a cop, so she killed Aileen. If the cop's kid never showed up 3 states away do think Aileen would have been murdered? Hell no.
Good afternoon Dr. Grande, thank you for your informative analysis on this case, it is always appreciated and enjoyable. I also enjoyed learning a new word today "throuple"..
@@Saddam-london is a portmanteau of the words three+couple= throuple. Because a couple is 2 people, but in this case they were 3, throuple. Hope it helps you understand
How could you want a mid looking doofus like Zack and some fuggs like Xtina, and look as beautiful as ol girl did. Like what on earth attraction did she have to these dust balls? Was it coco cola adjacent is my question tbh.
Give me a break first of all the first picture probably yes use a filter but that probably is a picture from when she was like 10 years younger 😆 secondly, she probably gained a ton of weight and stressed out in prison being charged for that.That would age anyone like ten years 😜
One more thing Zack and Eileen we’re on this trip all that time no problem! along comes Christina and she gets murdered but she testified against him and the police buy whatever she says well I don’t buy it !!
I am more inclined to believe Zach did kill her, as I can't imagine he wouldn't have snitched on Christina if he didn’t kill her. However, I believe Christina was far more involved than what she admitted to. I'm just surprised they invited her on the trip.
Their whole relationship was strange and I'm talking just to Zach and Christina like she was older than him you could tell she was not as attractive as the other girl even if she had been this girl's same age she still would not be attractive as that girl... Why Zach kept Christina around is a mystery he must have thought she had all kinds of power through her dad cuz he's a dumb@$$. I'm sure he tried to dip on her many times, we really do not know.
Zach had 2 women fighting over him yet I can't even pull 1 guy or gal? Bruh. Eileen deserved better than that without a doubt, but it sounds like all 3 were so freaking immature. This was a powder keg waiting to explode from the get-go
Every once in a great while, I get to experience or witness something out of the ordinary where it usually manifests itself again in some way or form once or twice again. On my trip to Starbucks yesterday before seeing this video, I witnessed this “couple” hugging and kissing as I walked in. As I waited for my coffee, the guy from that couple was waiting for his coffee and was speaking to another women. The first women had taken a seat at one of the tables. Once The man got his coffee, he left Starbucks holding hands with the 2nd women leaving the one I saw him embrace with earlier behind. She had moved on to being on her laptop by then. The guy and the 2nd women drove away. Today I tune in to see what the good Dr Grande posted and now I run into this. 😊
Why did they fight over this guy anyway? He's got two functioning hands, just leave and let him figure out his life on his own. 🙄 A person who can't decide and be faithful is never worth the hassle.
"Zac was not desirable in any way"... I love how Dr Grande almost invariably dumps on the desirability (lack there of) regarding the MEN in these videos... he so obviously judges them by his own standards 🙂
Yes, it is. They’ve been around for a very long time. Since the pop part of a ring pop is temporary because you consume it, Zach was basically letting Eileen know that their marriage would be temporary just like the ring pop
Pics of Christina are scary. Throuples never turn out well, esp mixed with alcoholics. The naked fighting had me😁Excellent points again. Thanks Dr G😊🧡🧡
"In order to avoid disturbing his girlfriend, Zack concealed his relationship with Eileen" is an odd way to put "Zack didn't tell his girlfriend that he was cheating on her".
Just based on the pics, Christina looked very evil with those scary eyes. In contrast, Aileen looked like a very nice girl. Too bad she's dead. Zack looks like an average Joe. Hard to see why 2 women wanted him so bad. If you liked my analysis, please give me a thumbs up.
I always have one more thing to say ! 😂… I believe 100% Christina thought by testifying against Zack and having a father who is a police chief or colonel whatever he was she thought her sentence would be much more lenient !! you look at that girl Christina’s eyes. I can see an evil person in there. She’s the only one with motive he ran away with Eileen to get away from her. I don’t think he did it. I think she did it…. At the end of the day a young lady lost her life so prayers up for Eileen.🙏🙏
It’s so easy to find out Zack is guilty by one main fact!!!!! 1. He managed to spend the night after her death, he did not call police, it was obviously not emergent.
When the guy commented that the group was well spoken, that's actually just a Florida term meaning "They weren't meth heads".
Ok, that makes sense. I could tell it was a code for something, but couldn't tell what and guessed, "good tipper."
Word
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And had all their teeth... 😂
Insecure people get a huge thrill of having others get jealous and fight over them. Men do it and women do it
I am a clinicql psychology professor PhD '79 retired here is my professional diagnosis NUTS oh and blind, but Im not qualified to make that last diagnosis, just speculating what may be happening in a situation like this...especially the opthalmic condition of the younger woman.
I will never understand why women fight each other over a man, much less one as douchey as this one.
Youre just jelly that youve never had a man asks for your hand in marriage with a ring pop.
Ironically, the doucheyness is what makes 'em wet 😅
i can think of about 10" of reasons
@@pluto8404 well I am married and I agree he was not worth the fight.
Three alcoholics abu*ing and using each other, nothing to do with gender lol
It's never mutual. Someone is always getting dragged along.
Surprise surprise.... insane jealousy when dealing with multiple people.
Ikr
Yeah,who would have guess. Stupid people 🙄
It even happens in animals.
Well well what do we have here, consequences of dumb actions 😊
Also, when you look like a thumb and the other girl looks like a model 😂 hard luck man no wonder she snapped 🥴
A "throuple" is just a new name for a "ménage á trois."
It's almost impossible for these to work. They rarely end well.
Sexual jealousy DOES exist.
Always has; always will.
I mean, technically, you're wrong, as the former is a type of relationship, and the latter is a one-off sexual encounter, but I get what you mean.
Yeah, you're wrong. Delete, edit, or look stupid forever.
True! 92% of open marriages don't work.
I have been part of a 3-person relationship for 6 years now. MFF. We all live together. It wasn't on purpose, but it ended up that way. There's no arguing. It's always been a relaxed environment. I think we all are wired for it. We each have our own rooms. We go out together/ we partner up randomly. We all just work and live our lives. And we're all happy and enjoy each other's company. My neighbor calls me Mr President lol
Cheating that goes to a clear Third Wheel? yeah no shit it won't work lol has nothing to do with anything else
Two women fighting over a used car salesman wow. Desperation.
IKR!😂
And he has a neck tattoo...
And in FloriDUhhH
Two DRUNK women fighting over an equally drunk used car salesman. I love how Dr. Grande says all of this could’ve been avoided if they would have had higher standards. So true!
Not desperation. Addicted to drama.
They are looking for pleasure, not happiness.
Throuple sounds like throuble 😬
Nooo you win
Throuble!
Exactly 😂😅😂
It’s a thriple threat
Hilariously underrated comment 😅😂😂😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣🤣
Assault of a S nature with a foreign object? Unforgivable. No remorse whatsoever.
I would be willing to bet the perp of said assault was an insanely jealous individual of a female gender. 🤷🏻♂️
I found myself wondering where they got 1) a walking stick, and 2) a paddle? These things are not commonly found lying around motel rooms - although given the motel was waterside, there may well have been canoes outside. Walking stick?
@chris-in-oceania yeah... walking stick was very odd. Unless they were into wierd s&m stuff. Which come to think of it probably fits.
Perhaps that fits with the possibility that she'd announced she was pregnant.
@@badlandskid Probably others previous passangers forget it and decided to just leave it there. Happens a lot in hotels. Where I work someone forgot a double denture and later called to apologize and to us to dispose it.
The title of this video is my favorite I've seen in a long time. Made me laugh. "Throuple Violently downgrades to couple" I'm still laughing. 😂
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You probably giggle a lot.
🤣🤣🤣I love Dr. Grande's sense of humor
"Violent downgrade" is going into the vernacular ✨️
@@Deadfoot-DanSooo many giggles
Throuple, a word meaning a bad idea that will not have a fairy tale ending. Thank you Dr. Grande for another interesting video 😊
I can't stand that term, even if I usually don't really care about such stuff. That one triggers me for some reason.
There's no reason they can't work as well as a monogamy. In the end, the problems in a relationship come from the people. I mean, statistically the most likely reason for a person to get murdered is domestic violence. And those don't even always involve another man. How many cases has Dr Grande covered where the motivation for murder was just ENDING the relationship.
There's always Goldilocks and the Three Bears.
How does it not surprise me this involves a used car salesman?
😂🎉❤ ENCORE ENCORE 😅
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A propane and propane accessories salesman would never!
Haha 😂
One other thing they all have in common: idiocy.
& probably STD’s 🤢 🤮
It is sad that the judgement of all the individuals was impaired by alcohol use. The stressors of modern society are so great that people often turn to alcohol and drugs, for relief, which are often cheaper than access to healthier escape/entertainment options such as sports etc.
Florida
I've watched a lot of Dr. Grands videos, It's depressing how many screwed up evil people there are in society. He will never be out of fresh material.
Hm
You can say that again!! 😂💯
The world is full of idiots. Thanks Dr. Grande for all the cases you bring us.
Yep and he hasn’t even covered most of the crimes in other countries ha ha 😄 Too many people think they can get away with crimes lol.
The rolling of your eyes with, "throuple" was very funny.
This is so Florida
Ah yeah too much free time 😕😔👎
The two women beat the crap out of each other naked and she only hit her one time during the murder? I don’t believe that for a second. Christina wanted her out of the picture period. Aileen was way more attractive and the huge one was losing the guy to the more attractive one. Guess she didn’t love him too much she was quick to make a deal and sell him out.
I bet the whole time the guy was watching, making "meow" noises.
Agreed, I think that’s what actually happened.
Well, if it's about first or second degree murder... priorities.
😂😂😂😂 “the huge one” had me cracking up
The rest were hair pulling and scratches? They don't strike me as being particularly good at throwing hands.
The drama must have been off the charts.
Ladies, let's not fight for the discounted rotten banana 😅better alone than with bad company
Sometimes, self-destructive human behavior simply defies explanation or understanding.
These people give alcohol a bad name.
I can’t believe that the two women was fighting over that man..
Add*ction is a helluva dr*g.. wait..
When a person is valued by someone, that person suddenly becomes valuable to others. Look at all the hideous famous ppl who have hot spouses. Girls line up for a night with a basketball player that looks like a straight up mutant because he’s been deemed valuable by other women for one reason or another.
did he have money ???
@@ordinaryman2299 He gave them both jobs.... Also they are both roasties....
3rd leg
When you’ve never before heard that three’s a crowd
The vision of these two women rolling around on the floor naked and fighting is priceless.
It reminds me of the "Waterloo" scene from "Muriel's Wedding", but nude and much more pathetic.
"P. Diddy action."🤣
More like the scene from Borat
Sharing the same space at work and home sounds maddening, add to that, sharing a lover.. disaster waiting to happen. RIP Aileen
He's no Brad Pitt
The title of your videos is pure gold
"The blank rhymes with the word row." 👍
Thank you again Dr. Grande
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@@kaym.2854 I am not native and did not get it ? Little help. I tried all the swear words that I know and I m guessing it is not (h)oe.
So these grown folks can travel all over the place without working at the dealership?
Their shadow employees. The guy is just on the payroll as his family owns the business among other business interests. The rich kid needs something to do imo. Other managers actually run the business.
Come to think of it, even couples dont work out too well either.
Yes but 50% of them do work, which is a much better statistic than 0%
You and Destiny can believe that all you want.
lol
Lol, why I'm UNO.
@@friendshipbunny2559 that’s ridiculous to assume 0%.
It sounds like Aileen was about to tell Christina she was pregnant and maybe that’s what set Zach off.
That makes sense... That's a likelihood or that they were just intimate
👍 Or that he proposed.
@@clairem7787I was thinking that, too.
OHH you are clever! it was bothering me not knowing what she was gonna say. that absolutely makes sense!
That is exactly what I thought!
Maybe the "guess what?" was because she was pregnant.
I never understand why employers think certain troublesome employees are indispensable and keep them around out of fear rather than performance
It made no sense to keep Kristina. He could always replace over another employee.
He couldn’t have been too concerned about losing money for the dealership if he’s traipsing across the country without a care in the world.
Assaulted her with a broken walking stick??? What is wrong with people?
Ladies, know your worth. Stop letting undeserving men play with your feelings and emotions
in this case I think the ladies involved did not have the tools to build worth within themselves
I feel like I learn a lot from you! Please don’t change! 🙏🏼
The headline let me know that this was going to be good
"Usually unwise decision" fr! I've seen it get so dramatic in my life from the outside.
This would be a good Coen brothers movie.
No 👎
This happened in my town. My daughter spent time in jail w the lady and she braided her hair. She couldn't believe how sweet she was lol
Hard to believe people can be this depraved.
They opened themselves up to the influence of evil spirits, I think. The more you give, the more the devil is able to take (step by step, going from bad to worse).
Greed leads to you ending up with nothing. Better to just have nothing, than have nothing in prison
This is the most logical comment, thus far.
@@Pub_Law thanks
Why were they competing for this guy? Why compete for anyone?
In poly relationships, everyone’s wounds & insecurities create a toxic interplay, making it almost impossible to maintain.
Zach could not go to a pawnshop and buy an engagement ring? Instead, he goes to a convenience store and buys a ring pop?
There is a Eastpointe, Michigan, too. Fun fact it used to be called East Detroit, but i think they changed the name in the '90s so people wouldn't think it was like Detroit, which is pretty silly.
Go LIONS !!!
East St. Louis, Illinois, has a really bad reputation, but I don’t think that St. Louis, Missouri was seriously going to consider changing its name…
@@RebeccaGreen-jt3qk 💙💙💙💙🥳🥳💙🥳
Its weird hearing about, and seeing, people act in ways that arent beneficial to them or anyone else. Even though they lacked the wisdom to sort this situation out, they could have hired counsellors that could unpack, de-escalate, and seperate them for their own good. But no.
I agree that could happen, but not in this crowd. It would have disrupted the "we drink til we drop then do it again again again train." I'm an alcoholic/addict, what I say is fact based on observation of it, both within and without. So you know, their boozing was no excuse for what happened. Far from it. And let's not forget the one who did the killing has a dad who is a cop. She thought she could get away with murder because her dad was a cop, so she killed Aileen. If the cop's kid never showed up 3 states away do think Aileen would have been murdered? Hell no.
Good afternoon Dr. Grande, thank you for your informative analysis on this case, it is always appreciated and enjoyable. I also enjoyed learning a new word today "throuple"..
What is that 😅
I’m just curious 😂😂😂
@Saddam-london did you not watch the video?
@@Saddam-london is a portmanteau of the words three+couple= throuple. Because a couple is 2 people, but in this case they were 3, throuple. Hope it helps you understand
This Eileen would never fight another female over a dude. Neither of them would EVER be worth it!!
Me either, and I'm a dude.
Average South Florida relationship..
Dr Grande # 1 ❤️ Consistently high quality & interesting content!
Christina looks like bad news. Ilene should have left this crazy relationship.
How could you want a mid looking doofus like Zack and some fuggs like Xtina, and look as beautiful as ol girl did. Like what on earth attraction did she have to these dust balls? Was it coco cola adjacent is my question tbh.
That hot tub story needs to be in the movie
Already been done, my friend. Many times.
No thanks! 3 is a crowd.
Ah yes the prized Ring Pop proposal
Christina really pulled the pin on that fat grenade.
I like this take on this case. Feels personal and high quality. Good camera angel 👌
Well, I'll be darned! The people in the alcohol advertisements are always smiling. Having a good time!
That's because they offer the solution to other problems except the ones caused by their solution.
Lol. Throuple? I didn't knew it was a word.
Because it wasn't lol
Apparently it’s a thing. 😮
@@helenaroman1543damn girl...
Three's a crowd 😆
I searched in a translator: it exists 😂🔻
Both are guilty.
Why did they just happen to have a walking stick and paddle hanging around?
Excellent and thanks for sharing today
Hope you're having a good afternoon Dr. Grande!
Excellent analysis, Dr. Grande.
@5:06 Dr. G's expression 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
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2:28 social media
6:26 reality
To be fair, there's several years in jail between those two pictures. People seem to put on weight behind bars.
@@gummbooteit's that prison food.
@@gummbootePlus no makeup or hair dye.
Give me a break first of all the first picture probably yes use a filter but that probably is a picture from when she was like 10 years younger 😆 secondly, she probably gained a ton of weight and stressed out in prison being charged for that.That would age anyone like ten years 😜
One more thing Zack and Eileen we’re on this trip all that time no problem! along comes Christina and she gets murdered but she testified against him and the police buy whatever she says well I don’t buy it !!
I am more inclined to believe Zach did kill her, as I can't imagine he wouldn't have snitched on Christina if he didn’t kill her. However, I believe Christina was far more involved than what she admitted to. I'm just surprised they invited her on the trip.
Their whole relationship was strange and I'm talking just to Zach and Christina like she was older than him you could tell she was not as attractive as the other girl even if she had been this girl's same age she still would not be attractive as that girl... Why Zach kept Christina around is a mystery he must have thought she had all kinds of power through her dad cuz he's a dumb@$$. I'm sure he tried to dip on her many times, we really do not know.
I feel like I always listen to you at the right times! 🤙🏼🤙🏼🤙🏼
Zach had 2 women fighting over him yet I can't even pull 1 guy or gal? Bruh.
Eileen deserved better than that without a doubt, but it sounds like all 3 were so freaking immature. This was a powder keg waiting to explode from the get-go
Stop being so picky, you will find someone but if you bisexual and can't pull noone?? you cooked
Right???
Why do women fight over men, let alone this guy is beyond me
dr. grande began this video exasperated. this one is about to be a doozy 😩✌️
Thanks Dr Grande, your stories are consistently entertaining.
Yes, higher standards would have provided some protection.
Thank you for the video, Dr. Grande! Crazy story, scary outcome.
Every once in a great while, I get to experience or witness something out of the ordinary where it usually manifests itself again in some way or form once or twice again. On my trip to Starbucks yesterday before seeing this video, I witnessed this “couple” hugging and kissing as I walked in. As I waited for my coffee, the guy from that couple was waiting for his coffee and was speaking to another women. The first women had taken a seat at one of the tables. Once The man got his coffee, he left Starbucks holding hands with the 2nd women leaving the one I saw him embrace with earlier behind. She had moved on to being on her laptop by then. The guy and the 2nd women drove away. Today I tune in to see what the good Dr Grande posted and now I run into this. 😊
11:50 Lmao what a prize that guy was
Why did they fight over this guy anyway? He's got two functioning hands, just leave and let him figure out his life on his own. 🙄 A person who can't decide and be faithful is never worth the hassle.
Ew, I've stayed at the Sportman's Lodge in East Pointe, FL.
"Zac was not desirable in any way"... I love how Dr Grande almost invariably dumps on the desirability (lack there of) regarding the MEN in these videos... he so obviously judges them by his own standards 🙂
I always say in these inexplicable pairings, the dude must have some feature that is not obvious to the casual observer (wink).
@@mrkinlaright
Honey! Get the popcorn and prepare to speculate! Dr. Grande has dropped a new video!
Three's Company? More like three's a crowd.
Christina had a whale of a time.
I can’t even get one woman and this guy has two of them fighting to the death for his attention. I’m definitely doing something wrong SMH!
I mean if your bar is set on the floor then yeah, but hopefully you want more than drunk groupies.
Love your videos ! Could you do an update video on the guilty verdict in the Delphi bridge murders ?
Ok here's another one does this ever end?my gosh people!
A ring pop is just a candy ring. Had to goggle that.
Yes, it is. They’ve been around for a very long time.
Since the pop part of a ring pop is temporary because you consume it, Zach was basically letting Eileen know that their marriage would be temporary just like the ring pop
Pics of Christina are scary. Throuples never turn out well, esp mixed with alcoholics. The naked fighting had me😁Excellent points again. Thanks Dr G😊🧡🧡
Me either, since I've retired, I'm learning all these new words, lol.
"throuple"🙄 will ALWAYS fail
Most always. My best friend has been in one for over 40 years. Same boyfriend, but is on her 3 rd marriage.
"In order to avoid disturbing his girlfriend, Zack concealed his relationship with Eileen" is an odd way to put "Zack didn't tell his girlfriend that he was cheating on her".
And the funny part is... it's hard to imagine a less desirable guy than that one.
Aileen was a hot lady, why get mixed up with these losers?
I feel bad for her probably being an orphan ruined her self esteem
Aileen was gorgeous
Just based on the pics, Christina looked very evil with those scary eyes. In contrast, Aileen looked like a very nice girl. Too bad she's dead. Zack looks like an average Joe. Hard to see why 2 women wanted him so bad. If you liked my analysis, please give me a thumbs up.
I think Christina did it mostly by herself.
I always have one more thing to say ! 😂… I believe 100% Christina thought by testifying against Zack and having a father who is a police chief or colonel whatever he was she thought her sentence would be much more lenient !! you look at that girl Christina’s eyes. I can see an evil person in there. She’s the only one with motive he ran away with Eileen to get away from her. I don’t think he did it. I think she did it…. At the end of the day a young lady lost her life so prayers up for Eileen.🙏🙏
Hi Dr Grande, please can you cover the case of Mary Bell, the 11 year old English child murderer.
The wrong one was murdered.
It’s so easy to find out Zack is guilty by one main fact!!!!! 1. He managed to spend the night after her death, he did not call police, it was obviously not emergent.