This brings back long forgotten memories. Back in the year 2000, there was a glitch in the free demo where you could play against other players and it was always a blank map like this except all default grass texture. In order to play, we had to set it to at least high resources or start in Feudal. The only way to sustain an economy was with trade and buying wood for farms.
Regarding the discussion at 30:32, Spirit of the Law has a video on the trip distance vs gold amount and the result is that the longer trip is more efficient.
it also helps that longer trade route can handle more carts before jamming due to traffic, since less space is taken up by markets so more space can be taken by carts
@@mookosh In a quadratic function, the variable is the base. In an exponential function, the variable is the exponent. x² is quadratic, 2ˣ is exponential. Exponential functions grow much, much, much faster than quadratic (or more generally polynomial) functions.
Blue, what a throw... of course the monastery should have been further back, but it also could and should have been making superb value warrior priests (a. k. a. the second cheapest melee unit in this scenario after eagles, which are not even nearly as sturdy)
Instead of sleeping early for office, I watched till until 5 am and this was the best thing I have watched ever. Loved every second of this video. Goated Ending! Like Cyan with the cute fortress teaming up with the godly Masty and Masty ending it cuz Cyan helped him against red when he had a singular vill. Holy jeez, tell me a better story. Every triangle is a love triangle if you love triangles!
The only thing I wish with Exploding Kings would be the last king to die not having the explosion timer. Game ending on the final frame of everything exploding would be really funny.
T 90 has some really good stories. His boring stories are also top tier. I always imagine myself in those stories and it takes ne back to the old days. (Sorry for the bad Grammer/english my first language is not english 😅)
Inspired to make a Gold "Almost" Nothing, where in the middle there's a treasure trove of wood, food and stone, but it takes a long time to get through all the gold mines to get there.
T90 is becoming the old man in his chicken story... Constantly retelling us about the time he stayed up late, was the only one at work, and got called chicken.
really nice video! the ending was still not bad, seeing yellow be welcomed with a full salute to teal's resplendent base, the only one that survived undamaged, with towers guarding the walls built with stone donated by yellow. It's all so poetic.
Agree, its not the sort of game that Id want to see regularly, but it was fun to see the ghia market actually explode therefore removing one cnr for trade and the whole relic dynamic. Always up for 'chicken story' so tx for sharing
the diagonal distance vs the side to side distance is a Pythagoras problem. so diagonal is square root of 2 times longer or 1.41 times the length of side to side distance. highschool was so handy if you hate real life
when i was young i let my little sister bury me in the sand on vacation like we often see on tv ... turn out there are nasty thing in there i got stung on the foot by some kind of parasite who laid eggs :D this became the itchiest thing ever and over time you would see them hatch inside my skin and start making their way on the upper foot area like worms. this whole thing lasted like 6 month and i had to see a dermatologist who had to make somekind of special cream and then it still took a while too heal while it would hitch soo much i would wake up in the night to scratch my foot dont play in the sand too much friends i was super lucky i got stung on only a toe
EPIC song achievement unlocked at 7:30 by T90 and he doesn't know it! Do you remember the hill of my childhood? I had a favorite one where I broke my arm when I was twelve It's too flat It's too dry But it's perfect and I don't know why There's just sand, there's just trade I didn't have a lot of sand and trade in my life growing up It's too flat It's too dry But it's perfect and I don't know why So I don't know what to work with But it's perfect and I don't know why
hi t90, I know this is free content, and I only mean well, but I do have a request. As you know, many people fall asleep to this content, but I have trouble painting the field in my mind sometimes when the popular players (masty, saly, serge, you know the folks) are named instead of by their player colour. Other less known players are often called by their colour, but I often have to open my eyes to recall what colour someone is on. It might just be me and my own problem to deal with, and might sound.. overly demanding from but one viewer. But if you don't ask you don't get? Also I know I havent commented much, but I've been watching now for... I'm not sure really. Tis only a small gripe, this content is great and I thank you and your community for putting on a show for our entertainment. All the best!
I wish he would too but if he doesn't, at least there's a billion other ways to fall asleep on youtube. lookup white noise, then realize there's 10 hour videos for the noise of every color. I also love people with boring voices like John Michael Godier and then there's certain albums that make me sleepy like whirr - pipe dreams and sound of ceres - emerald sea. Another idea is looking up recaps or explained videos of tv/anime/movies media already watched. For me Marvelous Anime does it (when it's the American's turn, the one with the deep monotone voice)
@@Yapperinos I agree with this person's concern about which color is who, and the favoritism on the popular players. Nothing wrong with that, but it can be hard to follow. But, yeah, this isn't content to fall asleep to. I thought it was supposed to be a joke that people fell asleep to T90. I guess not?
@@flamingosedai1820 I do sometimes if I'm in bed for the night and the game isn't particularly exciting yet. But it's a bad habit since it could backfire and keep me up longer
If you could find a way to mod the map so that trade carts gives you a little of every resource and then do another trade nothing I think that could be really interesting. Same tactics, but without the trade prices restricting everything so heavily.
Very interesting game experiment, maybe if the whole world is relied on trade to survive, we'll be forced to a lasting peace? Feels like that's already underway to an extent...
I've been watching and playing age for a long time now i when T90 said something about sun burns on the cart villager it made me realize that it's always daytime. It's never nite. I can't believe I never noticed/thought about that lol
I'm surprised nobody chose Spanish. The trade bonus + missionaries would dominate! With those market prices, You could YOLO missionaries and convert all the production buildings! Even if it costs you 20 missionaries per converted building, that's still less than the cost of 100 wood at those market prices. That and the 25% more gold per trip would snowball pretty quickly
i understand that the further the market the greater the gold trade, but, is the time the same? i mean going from corner to corner may give more gold in the cart than going to a closer market, but a closer market has less travel time...
i think i can sense t90 is away from his computer, I'm heading over to twitch for a few minutes of 'stories about sand with little sand in them' free viewing.
Blue totally could pull that off (or at least have a good chance of winning) if he only would have built a second monastary after the first one got damaged hard, but the second one should have been as far into the corner ass possible with a crap ton of defenses surrounding it. furthermore having a mangonel or 2 standing between the castles to do some tactical hits on trebs once they stard breaching the defenses... Blue could have pulled it off!
I like trade nothing, is always fun to have something crazy. But it end it up being quite boring. It was just a Masty controlling the hole game, you always knew who would die next. Dont think blue did bad, is just that he needed to guarantee an allie before trying that, and anyways Masty just knew, so I doubt it would have worked unless more players were against Masty.
It’s boring because they spend an hour doing nothing because they have nothing. Forest Nothing is fun because there are actual strategies besides “Buy wood, queue cart” If the market prices were kept mildly stabilized it would be significantly faster and more engaging, without ruining the spirit of the Nothingness.
@@joshuajordan6278 yes, but the difference between food and wood was lower than expected, so I wondered if it was worth due to the cost/benefit of a farm
The best part of this game mode is how the end game slows to a crawl, as armed convoys scour the map like Mad Max looking for remaining markets to trade with or destroy Edit: WHAT, indestructible gaia markets?
To me this was awsome and I'm kind of sad that it felt painfull to t90 and he probably wont show such a game again. I mean it was something speacial - at least to me. I very much like the fact that teal won the game. This player was focusing on building a nice looking base while others tried to be smart and strategic. I've heard of relic-victory or wonder-victory but this was a cuteness-vicory in my opinion.
Outside of Saracens Teutons are clearly the best civ for these settings. Not even remotely close. Monks (& conversion resist), castles, siege reliability, melee are extremely valuable in this scenario, as well as ranged wood units being very weak. Additionally Teutons can actually farm for a period in the mid game profitably. Maybe Turks (food/gold janissaries) or Spanish (faster firing gunpowder/trade bonus) but Teuton melee survivability is just better with limited food resources.
I still will never understand why all the lower elo folks/new folks always go "Yeah we totally will help against the best player!" only to cozy up to them and never help against them and then slowly but surely die.
Wonder if a strategy would be to vasel (or team up with) someone so not 200 population cap would be 400 vs all the rest like a few already did great video so many options and strategies. XD
wake up babe new trade nothing dropped
Lol 😂
"william, i've been sleeping for 2 years"
Looking at trade carts crossing an empty desert, and then T90 going into story mode. Night night
Tnks honey ❤
@@nafnaf0 T90 really needs to drop these nightly so I can get some sleep 🤣🤣🤣
Spoilers………… on ending
It is really funny seeing that the person with the little tiny circle base won.
Sim City
I'm really happy that for once, a wholesome player wins one of these!
I would like a tiniest trade nothing ever please
It would never end, considering how little gold they'd get per trade cart trip 😆
Tiniest Ring Nothing... best balanced Tiniest Map ever.
This brings back long forgotten memories.
Back in the year 2000, there was a glitch in the free demo where you could play against other players and it was always a blank map like this except all default grass texture. In order to play, we had to set it to at least high resources or start in Feudal. The only way to sustain an economy was with trade and buying wood for farms.
I was too young but I appreciate you sharing this old memory however brief it will last
the OG trade nothing
Regarding the discussion at 30:32, Spirit of the Law has a video on the trip distance vs gold amount and the result is that the longer trip is more efficient.
it also helps that longer trade route can handle more carts before jamming due to traffic, since less space is taken up by markets so more space can be taken by carts
yes, the amout of gold grows exponentially dependant on the lenght of the trip.
@@RudOnd Oh, not exponentially, quadratically.
@@T-Westaren't quadratics exponential functions?
@@mookosh In a quadratic function, the variable is the base. In an exponential function, the variable is the exponent. x² is quadratic, 2ˣ is exponential. Exponential functions grow much, much, much faster than quadratic (or more generally polynomial) functions.
Blue, what a throw... of course the monastery should have been further back, but it also could and should have been making superb value warrior priests (a. k. a. the second cheapest melee unit in this scenario after eagles, which are not even nearly as sturdy)
I though the same, Warrior Priest are fast and tanky and cost mostly gold
Instead of sleeping early for office, I watched till until 5 am and this was the best thing I have watched ever. Loved every second of this video. Goated Ending! Like Cyan with the cute fortress teaming up with the godly Masty and Masty ending it cuz Cyan helped him against red when he had a singular vill. Holy jeez, tell me a better story. Every triangle is a love triangle if you love triangles!
The only thing I wish with Exploding Kings would be the last king to die not having the explosion timer.
Game ending on the final frame of everything exploding would be really funny.
T 90 has some really good stories. His boring stories are also top tier. I always imagine myself in those stories and it takes ne back to the old days. (Sorry for the bad Grammer/english my first language is not english 😅)
Inspired to make a Gold "Almost" Nothing, where in the middle there's a treasure trove of wood, food and stone, but it takes a long time to get through all the gold mines to get there.
"you know how grandpas like to retell their favorite stories" T90 says while retelling his favorite story
T90 is becoming the old man in his chicken story... Constantly retelling us about the time he stayed up late, was the only one at work, and got called chicken.
imagine a universe where Tristan is called Peter Griffin xd
I wasn't expecting this kind of poetic end. This game was full of drama and emotions. Reminded me of the GoT.
really nice video! the ending was still not bad, seeing yellow be welcomed with a full salute to teal's resplendent base, the only one that survived undamaged, with towers guarding the walls built with stone donated by yellow. It's all so poetic.
It's 5am and I yelled "YOU DID ANOTHER TRADE NOTHING? I AM THE HAPPIEST IVE BEEN ALL MONTH"
Agree, its not the sort of game that Id want to see regularly, but it was fun to see the ghia market actually explode therefore removing one cnr for trade and the whole relic dynamic. Always up for 'chicken story' so tx for sharing
oh boy, amazing concept for a nothing map. It's gonna get crazy
the diagonal distance vs the side to side distance is a Pythagoras problem. so diagonal is square root of 2 times longer or 1.41 times the length of side to side distance.
highschool was so handy if you hate real life
when i was young i let my little sister bury me in the sand on vacation like we often see on tv ... turn out there are nasty thing in there i got stung on the foot by some kind of parasite who laid eggs :D
this became the itchiest thing ever and over time you would see them hatch inside my skin and start making their way on the upper foot area like worms.
this whole thing lasted like 6 month and i had to see a dermatologist who had to make somekind of special cream and then it still took a while too heal while it would hitch soo much i would wake up in the night to scratch my foot
dont play in the sand too much friends i was super lucky i got stung on only a toe
you really had to do this to me Tristan... You know I have to actually watch this. Big sigh. K bro I'm with you cya in 2 hours.
Hahahah too real
It's confirmed, T90 is Anakin Skywalker! 35:05
So the one player who watched Spirit Of the Law vid about markets is definitely having a big advantage 11
EPIC song achievement unlocked at 7:30 by T90 and he doesn't know it!
Do you remember the hill of my childhood?
I had a favorite one where I broke my arm when I was twelve
It's too flat
It's too dry
But it's perfect
and I don't know why
There's just sand, there's just trade
I didn't have a lot of sand and trade in my life growing up
It's too flat
It's too dry
But it's perfect
and I don't know why
So I don't know what to work with
But it's perfect
and I don't know why
That double king boom on masty was peak!
Thank you for the chicken story 😂
hi t90, I know this is free content, and I only mean well, but I do have a request. As you know, many people fall asleep to this content, but I have trouble painting the field in my mind sometimes when the popular players (masty, saly, serge, you know the folks) are named instead of by their player colour. Other less known players are often called by their colour, but I often have to open my eyes to recall what colour someone is on. It might just be me and my own problem to deal with, and might sound.. overly demanding from but one viewer. But if you don't ask you don't get?
Also I know I havent commented much, but I've been watching now for... I'm not sure really. Tis only a small gripe, this content is great and I thank you and your community for putting on a show for our entertainment. All the best!
I wish he would too but if he doesn't, at least there's a billion other ways to fall asleep on youtube. lookup white noise, then realize there's 10 hour videos for the noise of every color. I also love people with boring voices like John Michael Godier and then there's certain albums that make me sleepy like whirr - pipe dreams and sound of ceres - emerald sea. Another idea is looking up recaps or explained videos of tv/anime/movies media already watched. For me Marvelous Anime does it (when it's the American's turn, the one with the deep monotone voice)
@@Yapperinos I agree with this person's concern about which color is who, and the favoritism on the popular players. Nothing wrong with that, but it can be hard to follow. But, yeah, this isn't content to fall asleep to. I thought it was supposed to be a joke that people fell asleep to T90. I guess not?
@@flamingosedai1820 I do sometimes if I'm in bed for the night and the game isn't particularly exciting yet. But it's a bad habit since it could backfire and keep me up longer
Trade nothing should be on tournament🤘🤘🧐🧐🧐
T90Official sounded like Anakin Skywalker by hating sand
27:50 honestly I think I need the screensaver now lol
7 dollars is to much, your friend is right, you should be grateful to have a friend like that
7 dollars is too much
34:00 Every triangle is a love triangle if you love triangles!
wow, T90s pronounciation of lekker fietsen is spot on
cute roleplay, that was the bg3 karlach ending
"You know how grandpa's always like to repeat their favourite stories?"
We do, T90. We do.
This is the best Diplo game I've seen since blue coffee 1
Slowly going through this. I didn't skip your "get out of the rain" story! Squirrel story is still the best but I always love me a good T90 story.
no Portuguese smh. Would have really incentivized attacking because the longer you leave them the stronger they get
One thing I don't understand is why nobody build a castle in the dead center!! Or two, or eight!
Teal OP !!!
LeaakerFjietsen lmao love the pronounciation
If only this map had some water for building Docks.
It is like watching ants dragging bread crumbs back to nest
If you could find a way to mod the map so that trade carts gives you a little of every resource and then do another trade nothing I think that could be really interesting. Same tactics, but without the trade prices restricting everything so heavily.
Mchill here, if you enjoyed the love triangle joke as much as T90 did then check out James Acaster. He’s hilarious, one of the best comics out there.
Cabbaged
Very interesting game experiment, maybe if the whole world is relied on trade to survive, we'll be forced to a lasting peace? Feels like that's already underway to an extent...
T90 this was amazing! Absolutely not a mistake!!!
I've been watching and playing age for a long time now i when T90 said something about sun burns on the cart villager it made me realize that it's always daytime. It's never nite. I can't believe I never noticed/thought about that lol
The corners should be cracked ground so that its harder to camp.
A water ship only trade nothing would be cool!
My favorite nothing game so far. Social and
relic. 💗
I'm surprised nobody chose Spanish. The trade bonus + missionaries would dominate!
With those market prices, You could YOLO missionaries and convert all the production buildings! Even if it costs you 20 missionaries per converted building, that's still less than the cost of 100 wood at those market prices. That and the 25% more gold per trip would snowball pretty quickly
It was random civ :)
@@mastyjames1951 That makes sense. Also, GG WP!! Was very entertaining to watch =)
Wrong strategy. Convert all the markets until they run out of wood.
i understand that the further the market the greater the gold trade, but, is the time the same? i mean going from corner to corner may give more gold in the cart than going to a closer market, but a closer market has less travel time...
i think i can sense t90 is away from his computer, I'm heading over to twitch for a few minutes of 'stories about sand with little sand in them' free viewing.
Any game with Masty is so damn good!!
This is one of my favorite nothing maps.
The repeating desert terrain tile map is painful to look at!
Blue totally could pull that off (or at least have a good chance of winning) if he only would have built a second monastary after the first one got damaged hard, but the second one should have been as far into the corner ass possible with a crap ton of defenses surrounding it.
furthermore having a mangonel or 2 standing between the castles to do some tactical hits on trebs once they stard breaching the defenses... Blue could have pulled it off!
with those food prices, farming with crop rotation to sell food might have been a more efficient way than trade to accumulate gold
I like trade nothing, is always fun to have something crazy. But it end it up being quite boring. It was just a Masty controlling the hole game, you always knew who would die next.
Dont think blue did bad, is just that he needed to guarantee an allie before trying that, and anyways Masty just knew, so I doubt it would have worked unless more players were against Masty.
It’s boring because they spend an hour doing nothing because they have nothing.
Forest Nothing is fun because there are actual strategies besides “Buy wood, queue cart”
If the market prices were kept mildly stabilized it would be significantly faster and more engaging, without ruining the spirit of the Nothingness.
They could take the monks to convert defeated players units. There were a lot of champions in the middle or paladins in east.
Most beautiful base wins.
This game is for all the underdogs.
I was a deadlegging fiend in middle school, I'd crumple my friends in the hallway every day lmao
Would it make sense to build farms once you got all upgrades? Since food got expensive?
Farms cost wood, which was more expensive than food
@@joshuajordan6278 yes, but the difference between food and wood was lower than expected, so I wondered if it was worth due to the cost/benefit of a farm
Happy to see more different "nothing" maps.
The best part of this game mode is how the end game slows to a crawl, as armed convoys scour the map like Mad Max looking for remaining markets to trade with or destroy
Edit: WHAT, indestructible gaia markets?
Finally nothing maps, we love it.
Loooong game... :P
I haven't heard the chicken story in a minute.
To me this was awsome and I'm kind of sad that it felt painfull to t90 and he probably wont show such a game again. I mean it was something speacial - at least to me.
I very much like the fact that teal won the game. This player was focusing on building a nice looking base while others tried to be smart and strategic. I've heard of relic-victory or wonder-victory but this was a cuteness-vicory in my opinion.
chapeau mr. t90, I thought I saw all the x nothing maps, yet I get to see this
Wanted to sleep, couldn't take my eyes off it, nice game and nice stories. Thank you very much.
50 minutes into the video and no one has put a castle in the center. What???
Oregano Trail
35:30 Gate ASMR
I wanna darkness nothing some day, where playaer only get vision through buildings and not units
This is probably like the 15th time I've heard the call center chicken story 😂
Trade nothing + Water in the center and a bit on the outside + with an island in the middle + king of the hill monument on the island? 🤔
pretty unsatisfying that the Gaia markets are not placed properly in the corners
This is acttualy quiet similar to the Rell world Econemy
Outside of Saracens Teutons are clearly the best civ for these settings. Not even remotely close. Monks (& conversion resist), castles, siege reliability, melee are extremely valuable in this scenario, as well as ranged wood units being very weak. Additionally Teutons can actually farm for a period in the mid game profitably. Maybe Turks (food/gold janissaries) or Spanish (faster firing gunpowder/trade bonus) but Teuton melee survivability is just better with limited food resources.
I enjoyed this game, i wouldn't mind seeing this once a month
1:31:01 More what!?
1:47:37 PAID ACTOR
SPOILERS
Can't believe blue planned so long and didn't have a decent army comp prepared.
The market trick was removed on AoE IV 😂 I wonder why they don't do the same on AoE II
I still will never understand why all the lower elo folks/new folks always go "Yeah we totally will help against the best player!" only to cozy up to them and never help against them and then slowly but surely die.
Everyone in chat who was saying bad things about teal at the end should be banned.
New patch: hey we made trade carts so they crash less.
T90: we’ll see about that…
King of the hill tournament 🤘🤘🤘🤘🎰
"its 2024" yeah, it has been, for 10 months now.
I freaking love this game
Wonder if a strategy would be to vasel (or team up with) someone so not 200 population cap would be 400 vs all the rest like a few already did great video so many options and strategies. XD
does anyone else see a skull/face in the desert texture?
cant wait for the ring nothing revival
Never playing this again
i kinda feel i really walked away from this with a much better grasp on inflation and supply and demand in the real world
Wonder why no one stone walled out the others markets in early game....
Saracens or Portuguese would be Op on this map
Re: 3:00
I predict wood will cost 2,000 gold at the end.