just loved watching felkon do his thing. seemed like in every battle he commanded the pace and held the initiative, his opponents could only react. it must be incredibly frustrating to play against him. the last 3 games were so beautiful.
I remember Grombrindal also using that gunline strategy in the King of the Hill he won, I also remember you commenting on it: "I guess if you're worried about your back line being compromised you just bring more back line." It sure worked great for him in that matchup too.
Seeing a top tier player face a relatively new player. And despite the newer player making some mistakes. He still almost beat him. That's the kind of gameplay that makes a game like this great!
Holy icepower tw!! Damn son, I think that build was a damn good counter. Enticity is just so good at pulling cavalry into handguns with his dogs. and even after that, and your Lord/caster dying, and the witch elves waiting until the 4th quarter: you still, I think, would have had it!! if those deck gunners had just died to the dark riders' flank. They won the final trade with the darkshards, as much as the hangunners with their shield breaker. But damn bud. What a match.
I like the double hammers build for the Dwarves, they’re my favorite Dwarf unit and it seems like we don’t see them that much online. Seems like a great unit against Chaos to add some teeth to your army. However it seemed like a mistake to bring no missile units (not counting the cannon).
What an amazing tournament, everyone played soooooo good!! Felkon with the amazing strats, hadres with the 2 single entity comeback and the majestic empire build, what a treat!
Let no man or elf ever again doubt the power of mass darkshards! But across the board, I feel like the stream drove home the value of mass cheap ap missile lines for factions that have access to them. Then, the end of the stream drove home the value of having Felkon in control of any build.
Man I fucking hate Coast they just win every single time without actually microing hard or mixing up their builds. Such an OP faction. Still, nice plays from Enticity
I remmember that match were grombrindal was playing as skaven And someone else was playing as dwarfs using Belegar. It was fucking confusing when the narrator kept mentioning grombrindal.
Would be cool if the losers of each round where to fight each other and the winners of those matches would be back in the tournament. Or they all just fought each other in one big FFA for fun. Would be fun to see what these pros would do if they where allowed to just go wild on the points in a giant FFA.
Zeblasky played Chaos like he was playing Wood Elves. eliminate high priority target, kite, flank. NO wonder the dwarves weren't ready for him and lost the moment the cannons went down.
i just woke up and i thought you were the news, dude. i was like, why in the fuck is the new talking about ironbreakers and skaven? seriously, man. this was good.
A shame that in so many games across the board.. when it comes to the grand final the duel gets one sided bcs the true nemesis with all tools needed for winning is kicked out earlier
@@FreeMoter do they really? I haven't noticed a problem with their cavalry, it kicks ass, takes names and is pretty efficiently costed. their army is extremely powerful, just requiring some hard micro. cheap cav would be nice, but honestly its not entirely necassary
Goblin Wolf Chariot Gang. I have quite a few replays to prove why they are good. I bring one or two in every greenskin build. Got a thing that's too big for hittin? Shootin. Bring RoR wolf rider and gobbo chariots. chariots are OP. they run over infantry, they shoot fimir in the face and run away laughing, and then they stop lords like Wulfrik da Runner from runnin away from Da Biggest Orc, Grimgor. AKA There are 6 of them Turin. 6. They stop any single entity that is trying to run away. They route and come back with 4-5 models left. They have 92 speed. They are good.
Hi, Turin. I had a question. Why do players in multiplayer not use the bretonnian arrow formation for their cavalry? Or is that not available in multiplayer?
I think it is because models tend to get stuck when using the wedge, you'll see it sometimes against Wood elves that have low mass and shallow unit formations.
The wedge is cool, but it makes managing cav a hassle, slows them down and atleast in my experience doesn't really amplify their damage. It does have some niche uses in breaking through lines easier which is definitely interesting, but not worth getting shot to pieces for.
How long can you sit your army? because getting rest is a strat that should be allowed! Unless attacking with one unit counts, this is a viable strat. A min of 2-3 minutes should be allowed
For some reason I really do not like watching Enticity play vampire coast, and I always end up rooting against him. For some reason it ticks me off so much. It does not feel like he plays that well, but a box of zombie handguns that don't run are so annoying. They are broken.
Hi! Watched the whole thing and was wondering about one thing, does people play their multiplayer-battles with or without mods? Like, Im only playing SP campaigns and have been using SFO, my SFO units are avalible for recruitment in the battlescreen as far as I can tell when im just going into customs, can I play with those units in multi against people that doesnt have SFO or? And if I where to start playing these multiplayer battles should I remove SFO or not? (Sorry if its hard to read, typing on the phone in a hurry)
Ah Chaos, the incomplete faction for 3 years running. This is the problem with total war warhammer, we are not getting expansions, just the missing pieces.
the missing peices of a game several times the size of practically any game. I agree they should have fixed chaos and beastmen earlier, they got done dirty, but the expansions DO expand the game and it allows the game to hit the scale it wants to hit reasonably
@dio brandon woodelves havent gotten their update, its only confirmed that its coming. beastmen and chaos will be coming game 3, likely so will norsca, however they are by far the most complete chaos faction
"Who is Durthus father?" Turin: "I don't know probably some acorn." LMAO
CA doesn't update Wood Elves because that would make Felkon overpowered.
This explains his performance in the last Everchosen was just to dull their senses and give them a false sense of security...
and now they get an update! :D
@@viktorvh5511 pmnn
*The Wild Hunt BEGINS!*
Did you know that Durthu have potential of beating 6k+ funds units of infantry-cavalry? True Story.
should have probably streamed it...
Also IMO people champ was Aeroberic with probably worst subfaction in the game
Loved your work. Your flank overloads against Enticity's structured defense was extremely satisfying to watch.
Durthu is my absolute favourite LL by now. I just wish he would be picked more often... www.deviantart.com/ezekielepharcelis/art/DURTHU-714997005
just loved watching felkon do his thing. seemed like in every battle he commanded the pace and held the initiative, his opponents could only react. it must be incredibly frustrating to play against him. the last 3 games were so beautiful.
His units flow like water; it's a beauty to behold. It brought me back to watching perfect Starcraft micro back when I watched a lot of SC2.
@@Orhan6125 same
I have the opposite. When I saw this upload I thought "hope Felkon doesn't play or I already know who will win". And surprise of course he does.
I remember Grombrindal also using that gunline strategy in the King of the Hill he won, I also remember you commenting on it: "I guess if you're worried about your back line being compromised you just bring more back line."
It sure worked great for him in that matchup too.
Seeing a top tier player face a relatively new player. And despite the newer player making some mistakes. He still almost beat him. That's the kind of gameplay that makes a game like this great!
Which player was the new player?
@@chaosrex1487 icepowertw
Yea balanced gameplay
DahvPlays won my heart forever for that meme wagon/tank build. Classic Gobbo King esque memeing too hard. It was glorious.
Memes are how you win the hearts of people. So fun to watch.
He flew too close to the sun, yet got immortalized in that heat rather than fading away... Sigmar bless that ravaged meta!
Spoiler:
Just food for thought: the second WORST faction against the BEST faction and yet Felkon won. What a hero!
Amazing last battle, perfectly executed strategy....wow.
Hadres Hell-Pit Abomination and Screaming Bell duo was the highlight for me.
The superhero duo we didn't know we needed.
What a show. Those Faction Wars are just so entertaining!
That was impressive. That WE rush at the end.
Turin: “Aaah, some delicious water I must say” 🤣🤣🤣everything is epic in Turin’s tournaments
That last battle might well be the coolest one I've ever seen. DAUNTLESS ASRAI!
Holy icepower tw!! Damn son, I think that build was a damn good counter. Enticity is just so good at pulling cavalry into handguns with his dogs. and even after that, and your Lord/caster dying, and the witch elves waiting until the 4th quarter: you still, I think, would have had it!! if those deck gunners had just died to the dark riders' flank. They won the final trade with the darkshards, as much as the hangunners with their shield breaker. But damn bud. What a match.
I like the double hammers build for the Dwarves, they’re my favorite Dwarf unit and it seems like we don’t see them that much online. Seems like a great unit against Chaos to add some teeth to your army. However it seemed like a mistake to bring no missile units (not counting the cannon).
Cannot believe the overcast damage on that vampire caster in the second to last game. Insanity.
It almost looked like a double miscast
Nothing against Enticity, but that last fight with the Wild Rider “Fields of Pelanor” crushing the VC was super satisfying.
This was great once again. Faction wars I always watch from start to end.
hell yeah!
What an amazing tournament, everyone played soooooo good!! Felkon with the amazing strats, hadres with the 2 single entity comeback and the majestic empire build, what a treat!
I haven't finished watching yet but I hope Bretonnians make it further this time. All that simping for Ze Lady should pay off eventually.
WE really dodged 2 bretonian matchups there
This Tourney was Awesome, glad I could be a part of it! Thanks Turin
that commentary though XD
"the mighty mel gibson"
"here comes the horde of reindeers"
Let no man or elf ever again doubt the power of mass darkshards!
But across the board, I feel like the stream drove home the value of mass cheap ap missile lines for factions that have access to them.
Then, the end of the stream drove home the value of having Felkon in control of any build.
Id actually like to see Legend of total war in one of these tournaments and see if he can actually back up that ego of his.
Man I fucking hate Coast they just win every single time without actually microing hard or mixing up their builds. Such an OP faction. Still, nice plays from Enticity
Frigging Dahv. He always brings these meme builds, never treats the tournaments seriously :)
the puns on the felkon/crabling fight
just fabulous
I dunno whos gonna sin but I played against Felkon and Energyzed so hope they win.
I remmember that match were grombrindal was playing as skaven And someone else was playing as dwarfs using Belegar. It was fucking confusing when the narrator kept mentioning grombrindal.
It's Girthu not Dirthu. :P
I always love to see felkon on the WE. I imagine he will dominate the tournaments for a while after the new update
that was one awesome tournament, gratz to all who have played
Would be cool if the losers of each round where to fight each other and the winners of those matches would be back in the tournament. Or they all just fought each other in one big FFA for fun. Would be fun to see what these pros would do if they where allowed to just go wild on the points in a giant FFA.
Great ending! Was sure it was gonna be coast or skaven again. Glad to see the old world doin work.
Zeblasky played Chaos like he was playing Wood Elves. eliminate high priority target, kite, flank.
NO wonder the dwarves weren't ready for him and lost the moment the cannons went down.
Nice, just finished watching the May one and here we go again!
First match was already awesome.
Why that Dwarf player DIDN'T bring anything else to properly protect his artillery is beyond me. One unit of Thunderers would've done work.
Just realized the mortar sound is the same as the mortar in Empire TW
maaaan that rush play by Felkon
That was unbelievable wood elf play!! 👌🏻👌🏻
Felkon, making it look EASY with Wood Elves. What a display 👏👏👏
THAT WAS AMAZING!! What a finish!!
i just woke up and i thought you were the news, dude. i was like, why in the fuck is the new talking about ironbreakers and skaven? seriously, man. this was good.
Love this series, so entertaining! Keep up the great work Turin
A shame that in so many games across the board.. when it comes to the grand final the duel gets one sided bcs the true nemesis with all tools needed for winning is kicked out earlier
"Wood elves need no fancy dlc" but they literaly are dlc lol
I wish i had them, maybe next sale
Amazing games from everyone ~
wood elves need a campaign overhaul, the army is super fun and ballanced fairly well with few missing units, the campaign just... sucks
They miss cheap cav. Kurnous hunters from age of sigmar would give them more fun options
@@FreeMoter do they really? I haven't noticed a problem with their cavalry, it kicks ass, takes names and is pretty efficiently costed. their army is extremely powerful, just requiring some hard micro. cheap cav would be nice, but honestly its not entirely necassary
Optimus Pine! That is great, Turin!
took a nap andwoke up to this playing
Goblin Wolf Chariot Gang. I have quite a few replays to prove why they are good. I bring one or two in every greenskin build. Got a thing that's too big for hittin? Shootin. Bring RoR wolf rider and gobbo chariots. chariots are OP. they run over infantry, they shoot fimir in the face and run away laughing, and then they stop lords like Wulfrik da Runner from runnin away from Da Biggest Orc, Grimgor.
AKA
There are 6 of them Turin. 6.
They stop any single entity that is trying to run away. They route and come back with 4-5 models left. They have 92 speed.
They are good.
Very much enjoying the video, Turin! You've earned that subscription.
Do we know what the unit size is for the tournaments and what the the best-optimal size of units to play in a campaign regarding of balance?
Large IMO!
This was a good watch, just wish the bitrate was higher!
Great stream, love these faction wars! Ever thought of using black text for the player names? Would be easier to see on the parchment backgrounds
Did Red Legion just forget to tell his Sisters of Avelorn to attack? That was painful. Good series of matches :)
Nah they attacked, it was just to late, probably should have gone wide or something, but was a close one
Wood Elves vs. Beastmen Lordpack DLC would be awesome
Arise, arise riders of Orion !!
that VC player really just sent his blood knights and black knights charging into infantry & rat ogres instead of their ranged units...........
Felkon is just ridiculous 😱
Epic wood elves play !
I wonder how they could do a warhammer 40k total war.
Great stream, and casting as always Turin.
Hi, Turin. I had a question. Why do players in multiplayer not use the bretonnian arrow formation for their cavalry? Or is that not available in multiplayer?
I think it is because models tend to get stuck when using the wedge, you'll see it sometimes against Wood elves that have low mass and shallow unit formations.
The wedge is cool, but it makes managing cav a hassle, slows them down and atleast in my experience doesn't really amplify their damage. It does have some niche uses in breaking through lines easier which is definitely interesting, but not worth getting shot to pieces for.
Wanted to see elves succeed. 1:33:55 in and now there are only Asrai. I'm scared
How long can you sit your army? because getting rest is a strat that should be allowed! Unless attacking with one unit counts, this is a viable strat. A min of 2-3 minutes should be allowed
So when that dwarf buff coming?
Kind of funny how on 45:21 both factions have 428 units remaining
Think the vampire caster just mid casted but took off a good third of its hp
Felcon yes! Iove the wood elves, their one of my fav race
For some reason I really do not like watching Enticity play vampire coast, and I always end up rooting against him. For some reason it ticks me off so much. It does not feel like he plays that well, but a box of zombie handguns that don't run are so annoying. They are broken.
Hi! Watched the whole thing and was wondering about one thing, does people play their multiplayer-battles with or without mods? Like, Im only playing SP campaigns and have been using SFO, my SFO units are avalible for recruitment in the battlescreen as far as I can tell when im just going into customs, can I play with those units in multi against people that doesnt have SFO or? And if I where to start playing these multiplayer battles should I remove SFO or not?
(Sorry if its hard to read, typing on the phone in a hurry)
i believe everyone has to have all the same mods as far as extra units/SFO, anything thats a huge overhaul like that
Ah Chaos, the incomplete faction for 3 years running. This is the problem with total war warhammer, we are not getting expansions, just the missing pieces.
the missing peices of a game several times the size of practically any game. I agree they should have fixed chaos and beastmen earlier, they got done dirty, but the expansions DO expand the game and it allows the game to hit the scale it wants to hit reasonably
@dio brandon woodelves havent gotten their update, its only confirmed that its coming. beastmen and chaos will be coming game 3, likely so will norsca, however they are by far the most complete chaos faction
@dio brandon yes I agree
Sad I missed this - was this tourney announced on UA-cam?
The Wood Elves avenging the Bretonians who would've thunk it?
What are the rules for money and army size?
Large armies Off, large unit size, 12400 funds
Happy Birthday!
How the dwarf player did not brought any ranged beside cannons? Jesus
What happened at 3:26:29? Pretty noticeable timeskip there.. What are you hiding from us Turin!?
Lag maybe? It's a live stream!
I did not watch this whole thing but I predict Felkon v Enticity final.
Can someone tell me why none of the brettounians is using the lange Formation?
Wait, how could he have both Alberic and Gotrek? Isn’t Gotrek considered a Lord?
today I learned that cav wins wars
1:10:00 bottom left poor bloke got impaled into the 41st millennia
looks like my premium matches on 20k elo
Podcasts would be dope
omg this was great!
How do I join the discord
Good old times...
Poor Dwarfs and VCs v.v
The last battle so awesome! Great game
Am I the only one who likes the skaven?
how do you get gotrek???
Total war access
Where's legend of total war though?
Davi army with no range units, really!? 😂
1:17:30 can't touch this
Bows .... don't.... fire !
what does gooned mean? (asking for a friend) ;)
Its like gooning out
Why do I feel like the Diwi are just terrible for any competitive battles.