@@toddjones6463 Are you so stupid that you can't even use your tiny mind to stay on topic without being racist? All the scammers in the video are American
@@lanz9649 yup. They are all american on camera. I agree. If americans walked into a room full of patel salesman ...they would turn around. The money guys behind the scenes are probably indian. It fits the scam parameters. Promise something for nothing.
They just left him there. They don't give a damn about each other. What a way to live ! It will catch up. It does take common sense. If someone offers you free money or free anything just say no. No one gives away anything free. At times I have strangers approach me by sweetalking & charm. I walk away. Those are signs of cons & scams. I've known people who have been scammed. It's awful.
When someone constantly peppers their speech with "frankly" and "believe me", it is the sure sign of a liar. There is this guy I see on TV all the time who does this. He also wears this weird orange face paint and has his hair done like a whispy bird's nest. I forgot what he sells, but I can't believe there are people out there who buy it.
My grandmother would keep these guys on the phone for hours mostly just complaining about her life... and then when she got bored she'd just hang up on them... priceless 😂
This is what media should be doing. Just chasing things like this down and putting people on TV. This is the power of a platform, to put fear in those who actually have something to lose. Not repeating the same tired political garbage or bad news every day that doesn't change anything. At least expose some of these clowns
He wants more of this instead of 45 minutes of news being consisted of bullshit coronavirus information or or pushing a narrative for their political party
Trust me when I say every good reporter wants to do this, but this stuff takes so much time and resources that most media companies either simply don't have or are unwilling to provide
Thorn wakes up every morning and tells himself in the mirror he’s a great salesman. “you got this Thorn. you can sell anything. you could sell a ketchup popsicle to a woman wearing white gloves. you’re that good.”
HELL NO! I FUCKING HATE COCKROACHES! I HAVE CONSTANT BATTLE WITH THEM LIVING IN MY ROACH INFESTED APARTMENT! I COULDN’T EVEN GO OUT BECAUSE OF IT! I HAVE NO LIFE!
He’s one of those guys that thinks he’s attractive and hypnotizing 😂. It’s so cringe I’ve run into a few . I literally blow their spot everytime. Please take ur hand off me we’ve never been that close .
@@valuecalc yeah! I’ve been thinking that it’s especially great for a news anchor to do this with their different set of audience compared to more mainstream videos about it.
I am fascinated by your exact statement and why people keep falling for it. My primary hobby is being besieged by counterfeiters. An items usually costs between $40-$80 and they'll see someone selling the same item, brand new, for $18 and debate whether to go for it. They do AND THEN get mad because they go burned. HOW IN THE #*@* DO YOU NOT GET IT!?!?!?!
the ex signed us up for a time share presentation once. It was a pretty safe bet anyways because I dont "push". at the end of the presentation and the closers' pressure I politely said " I going to need to think it over" He got kind of frustrated saying "the statistics say that if you leave today without committing, you won't" To which I responded..."that is your problem not mine" ha ha
another gag I used to pull is when you have a solicitor offering something "free" I'd respond...I'm sorry I dont accept free gifts...used to blow their minds.
Book Snake It’s a sales tactic. Touch communicates more than words, I’m sure he’s used to touching people on the shoulder. he is without a doubt a sleezeball though.
not always, but from a car type salesman yes sadly, i use honest with you, to be honest, etc....and my thing is I really try to always be honest in life. So, its not always the case IMO
I went to one of these presentations once and the guy who was our guide got so mad at us for declining to buy the package. We said we just came because we were promised certain free gifts. He got so angry and said we wasted his time and took food off his kids table. Um, okay. Stop promising free gifts then get mad when people don’t or can’t drop $20k on a vacation package. These people are sketchy as hell.
Lauren Harman actually we got a $100 gift card to a fancy restaurant and the reason we went. But their main gift was a cruise vacation we never took because of all the added costs. And on top of paying for the free cruise, they tack an inflated value to it which if we took it we have to claim on taxes at their stated value. It ended up being too complicated and we left it alone.
DatGamerGurl we just went for the $100 gift card which we got. The cruise was their big ticket promised gift which we didn’t care for to begin with, so we didn’t care to pursue it further after learning of all the added expenses. We only wanted the gift card. Didn’t really fall for anything.
jimmysgirl1029 LOL bullshit you left empty handed. Why are you lying? These people are trying to TAKE money you wish you got a 100$ gift card 🤣🤣🤣 hahahahahaha LIARRRRRR
U wanna know something funny? I actually attended something like this with my dad with the promise of a free cruise afterwards. It was a time share presentation. We were there 3 grueling hours. We didn’t buy it…. But we really went on a cruise afterwards. It’s a miracle it wasnt a scam.
QuIgYx Yes because salesmen are very well known for going into bathrooms with random people and the US is known for their warlords. You get that this is a US only thing right? 🤦♀️
@Bob Anon personally i dont agree with prostitution morally, but legalizing it would definitely make it safer. but to think it would stop human sex trafficking is idiotic.
@Bob Anon im sorry dude i dont link sources in youtube comment sections cause i have better or more productive things. but i told you what to look up, now look it up. and no reason to use that demeanor this is a civilized conversation man.
Something very similar happened to me. I had filled out a "raffle" ticket at the state fair to win a car. Several months later I got a call saying I basically won. I was like 17-18 at the time, and because I wasn't 21 I needed a parent to come too. Well, it was a scam for time sharing! They pulled the exact same scam that these people did. Thankfully I learned this lesson at a young age. 😂🤷
They teach marketing in College. This is BUT one type. Read and wake up. Companies all over the world do this. It's called building your contact base. OR funneling. Marketing 101.
If anyone starts using the lines “honestly” or “frankly” or “I’ll be straight up with you” , all they are saying is they have not been honest and are going to continue to lie to u. Typical compulsive liar behavior and lingo. This guy wakes up in the morning to lie. And goes to sleep to get rest so he can get up and do it all over again. He lives to lie. Compulsive and habitual liar. Aka pos
I gotta say it was admirable/entertaining watching "Thorn" hustle and BS his way through the interview on the fly while the rest of his crew abandoned him lol.
Why admirable?!?!? Is a reporter, is her job to ask annoying questions, entertaining, yes. I like when thief can't answer the questions and start nervous
@@veneno276 overall it’s not admirable, but if everyone else leaves and you stay to “explain yourself” it’s a little admirable. A little lol, not a lot, just a little. Could’ve tucked his tail and left like everyone else but he didn’t.
@Feedthe5000 I've had a timeshare for about 12 years, I got it off someone who was giving it away, so I just pay the yearly taxes on it. I love it. I sold timeshare at the time, and know all about it.
This is actual investigative journalism. If this was a political story she would have just read an internet article and then posted a piece about how it made her feel.
You've never worked as a journalist, I take it? But you seem to have a lot of insight into how politics journalists work. Interesting. How did you learn this, what newsrooms have you been in?
MY wife and I did this while at Disneyworld back in 2008. Our boys were approx. 4, 6, and 8 years old at the time and we all sat through a presentation on our last day there in Orlando at a Sheraton. They tried to sell us on the Disney timeshare but we kept saying no and they did give us our free gift which I believe was a Visa gift card. Guess we were lucky to have them honor the deal.
I've been to 3 timeshare presentations. At 1, I got free SeaWorld tickets (back in my unenlightened days). At the 2nd, I got 2 free nights at the Loon Mountain resort in our mtns (in NH) which was awesome. The 3rd, I got dumb airline tickets I could never use just like this video shows. The key is to hold strong and stick by your "no". They'll all get pissed at you and send 8 salesmen but just keep saying "no", get your free gifts then leave.
I did one of these about 13 years ago. Presentation in San Diego, they actually paid for my hotel room (2 days) and gave me a 75 dollar gift card for a specific seafood restaurant. The presentation was 2 hours long and although they didn't like that I was so direct with them "I don't have money for a timeshare, I will not be buying a timeshare no matter what you say." They still honored the freebies.
These days, they put one under very high-pressure attics, practically holding people hostage with beefy guys surrounding you, not letting people leave! There are videos on this! Police were called to free the people!
I work in sales on a smaller scale and it’s very common knowledge that if someone straight up says they’re not going to buy anything today, they’re not going to buy something. It’s honestly a blessing because you then know not to waste anymore time and move on to the next customer.
misshollybrooke scam artists? No. Scam artists are just that, artists. They have genius, cunningly outwitting anyone. So much so that it is an art form. These guys prey on the desperate and the ignorant. They are bottom feeders that are the farthest thing from an artist.
The funny thing is ABC is a scammer too, time paid for by the rich. They will throw little guys like this under the bus for our entertainment because we all like to hate these people. More ad revenue, because they know how we behave as people. They know are instinctual need for violence, hatred and controversy. We give them the views instead of turning it off and self improving ourselves and the country....haha
Patrick -- TV is evil because it offers a substitute for attempting to better yourself every hour of every day? C'mon. Are magazines evil too? How bout board games?
AG needs to wipe the smile off his face and do his job. Prosecute these scam artist liars. We don't want to hear the difficulties in your job anymore than you want to hear ours.
Symmetry Tanner the law protects these scum...people have to learn to say no to bullshit scams early. say NO. walk away from it. We can't blame prosecuters for impotency on one side and then want governmental justice on the other...we must be involved and part of the governmental community as active citizens. make people aware. complaining against your own body does not make it whole.
My wife and I did the whole thing with this free trip stuff. They skipped on the airfare, gave show tickets instead, and still got the 2 nights stay. ...luckily...
Kevin H. People would not fall for it if they didn't lie... and if police/justice was more active on those issues, they also would not be doing it... The name changing as an excuse is quit the joke, a scam should be prosecuted against the person orchestrating it, not the legal entity.
They would not be doing this if it was illegal....... which it should be illegal. But since it’s NOT illegal, I totally understand why people will lie and cheat to get people’s money. I mean if there’s no law against getting rich that way then why not do it? Especially if you don’t have a conscience
If those ads were real I’d have an endless amount of money, all the iPhones ever, 2999 Volkswagen beetles just from the early 2000s and traveled the entire world twice.
You don‘t, because I bought them all with the money I‘ll get from this Nigerian Minister of Development Strategy, who unfortunally got the flu so he can‘t make it to Western Union by himself.
I literally had this happen a few years ago in California. Me and my girlfriend spent 2 hours getting pressured by Frankie Muniz’s dad, it’s the first thing he mentioned of course. And then he got super pissed when we told him we weren’t buying anything. I googled him and it was really was his dad but it doesn’t seem like they have the best relationship. He came across as a greedy scumbag who was using his sons name to try to rip people off. It was a very weird and unforgettable situation.
This scam has been going on for years. I had this happen to me 20 years ago. I went to the presentation and was given a so called free vacation voucher. I had to pay 50.00 for a booking fee. After I paid the fee they had no available dates. They wouldn't give my money back either. Its a pretty good scam. They will never be caught. Too good to be true and it is.
I had a offer to look at some lakeside property, with an offer of my choice of a Lowes gift card, a color tv, or one other item (I don't remember what it was). I went into it knowing I would probably walk away without anything, but simply expecting a road trip and a hard sell. I got what I was expecting, and when the end of the tour came around, and I made it clear that I wasn't interested, but still wanted the gift card, they claimed they were out of them. I complained profusely, but ended up getting a tv that I used for several years. The trick is knowing it is a scam and acting accordingly. If they ask for money at any point, that's when you refuse. If they insist, walk away.
Exactly. I had some sales jobs in my younger years & would never sell anything you wouldn’t sell your family & friends. Those sales guys bolted the first chance they got.
I applied for a scholarship once that amounted to several thousand dollars. When I handed in my paperwork the teacher told me my chances were pretty good. I asked why that was and he told me, "because they award two scholarships per school and you're the only student in the whole school who bothered applying." Needless to say, I got the scholarship. The schooling was all paid for anyways by my employer through some tuition reimbursement program which I was the only employee to take advantage of as well. To top it all off, I was able to write it all off on my taxes and got a nice refund at the end of the year. Free deals do exist out there, you just have to know where to look.
The guys running out the door at the sight of a camera is all you need to see. Also, gotta love how this “Thorn” guy was sweating BUCKETS at the simple questions 😂
This was a good story. I like it when the news stays away from politics and gets to the actual scandals that are happening everywhere. High pressure sales tactics were used by a company I worked for in the past, which will go unnamed. I installed water treatment systems. The company I worked for sold them for upwards of $6000. They made tons of promises that are absolute BS. 'Lifetime warranty' and 'free lifetime supply of soap and cleaning products', all of which was not true. Yes, you did get some cleaning products, but there's no way they'd last any family a lifetime--even a family of two, lol. And there was never a lifetime warranty on the system--for the cylinder, not the computer that makes it work, LOL. And you still had to pay yearly service fees and purchase parts when they need replacement. See, I don't have a problem with any of that. I do have a problem when you trick people into coming into their homes for a 'special water test', which is really just a sales pitch filled with exaggerations or outright lies. They pressure naive people into buying a crappy deal. More than one customer told me it was the worse decision they ever made in their lives. I won't say the name bc they've been known to sue people for slander, or libel, or whatever it is when it's in print. The fact is I witnessed the sales' shenanigans firsthand--I originally trained to be a salesmen (I was 19 at the time and naive myself), but I realized after a week there was no way I could do it. Only after I started working in the service and installation department did I learn all the real truths about those water softeners, and all the added costs. For the customers that had money it usually wasn't a big deal. For the ones who didn't--and there were a lot--it was a huge deal. Why not just be honest about everything? Why the deception? That's what gets me.
IKR? I wish they would stick with real news. Stop with the fake and or misleading political news! Then just maybe they will get some of the public's trust back. Make News Great Again!
My family did one of these, except the presentation was for some vacation homes at the beach. We were promised free tickets to Medieval Time and surprisingly, we got them. Didn’t buy/rest any of the homes. I know this is a lesser scale instead of the vacations, but 🤷🏻♀️
unfortunately these days, millions of kids have been brainwashed into thinking "free stuff" comes with no cost. and if it does, just steal the money from people who have worked their whole lives to save up.
Mike Hughes the idiots that turn up deserve to be locked up. Supply and Demand my friend. If these idiots didnt fall for the scam these guys couldn’t stay in business
+Dan O; not complete idiots to give a person a chance. Idiot to stay past the cringy intro. Might be bored and conference is in their town. No big cost. My respect to all the people who show up just to make a scene and piss on the scammers parade. Alright alright alright lady might have been subtly trying to demonstrate the insanity.
These people are predators. There’s a reason it’s too good to be true. Really makes you wonder how someone like that sleeps at night. I imagine they’ve bilked a fortune out of people that were not even interested to begin with. It almost happened to us! We did the same thing. Go in, listen to the schtick and cop a free trip. Nope. They wouldn’t let us leave. Moved from room to room and different salesperson trying to push us to sign. Two and a half hours later my wife was mad at me for setting it up! We left totally mad! Now, we think about it and laugh.
They left like roaches when the lights come on😁
Samuel Bolden hahaha
😂😂😂😂
Hahaha 😆
ABC News & Exterminators
Hahahahahaha 😂
Those dudes raced out that room lol
Shana Leah like rats when someone walks in the room 🐀 🐀 🐀 💨
They know what was going on. They are most likely paid a commission of each sale.
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Isn’t it wild that a man got to a point in his life where he puts a suit on everyday to pull this shit?
But itz not illegal so its okay.
@@grimendancehall uh, scams are illegal
@@toddjones6463 Are you so stupid that you can't even use your tiny mind to stay on topic without being racist? All the scammers in the video are American
@@lanz9649 yup. They are all american on camera. I agree. If americans walked into a room full of patel salesman ...they would turn around. The money guys behind the scenes are probably indian. It fits the scam parameters. Promise something for nothing.
The first one was an african...
That old lady that said “alright alright alright” 100% got scammed lol
Yea
Alan, seniors are the biggest target. Scammers see them as easy pigeons.
Alan, seniors are the biggest targets. Scammers see them as easy pigeons.
Actually she didn't she was on the news
I almost wonder if she was a plant to try to whip up enthusiasm for the real attendees.
Look at all those guys in on the scam, sliding out the door like snakes
Slithering
Creepin,sneaky slimy snakes
Out of work Realtor's?
They just left him there. They don't give a damn about each other. What a way to live ! It will catch up. It does take common sense. If someone offers you free money or free anything just say no. No one gives away anything free. At times I have strangers approach me by sweetalking & charm. I walk away. Those are signs of cons & scams. I've known people who have been scammed. It's awful.
And they all look like rich men’s, doctors, business men’s, lawyers but they’re here to dress to impress and take your money.
Now this is journalism.
yes
But are YOU even a real journalism?
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yuuup
Now this is journalism.
"I'll be frank with you"
"I'll be forward with you"
And then he is neither frank nor forward
Nor backwords
Crooks!
His name is frank forward the 2nd
"I actually stole this shirt from Frank" - Billy Madison
He’s Thorne 😎
I love his audacity to keeping saying "I'll be frank with you" and proceeding to definitely not be frank with them.
The best way to handle these scam artists is to pay them absolutely no attention.
Thought his name was Thorn. His parents certainly named him right. He’s a thorn to everyone he meets. 😂
“To put it frankly” Thorn is a con man.
He said that like 5 times LOL
But he put his hand on her, which shows how aggressive and condescending he is. She should have told him to stop assaulting her.
When someone constantly peppers their speech with "frankly" and "believe me", it is the sure sign of a liar.
There is this guy I see on TV all the time who does this. He also wears this weird orange face paint and has his hair done like a whispy bird's nest. I forgot what he sells, but I can't believe there are people out there who buy it.
@@photostudio6788 TDS
He seems like an upstanding guy, I don’t think he’s lying at all
"I'll be frank with you," "Let me be frank," "To put it frankly..."
Someone found their favorite word.
Frank sure can be a dick
That someone is Frank. 😂😂😂😂😂😂
😭😭
When you see someone using the same word or phrase like that it typically means they're extremely nervous - lying bastards...
Any fucking ass wipe that says "I appreciate ya" is a greasy, dippity doo, con artist.
My grandmother would keep these guys on the phone for hours mostly just complaining about her life... and then when she got bored she'd just hang up on them... priceless 😂
I hope it extended her life an extra decade. I'd even give her a year of my own life just to sit and listen to her own those people.
🤣🤣🤣
My great aunt used to do this too 😂
@@fukc26 what if your great aunt is his granny 😳
Rofl 🤣
This is what media should be doing. Just chasing things like this down and putting people on TV. This is the power of a platform, to put fear in those who actually have something to lose. Not repeating the same tired political garbage or bad news every day that doesn't change anything. At least expose some of these clowns
I mean they did it, what else do you want
He wants more of this instead of 45 minutes of news being consisted of bullshit coronavirus information or or pushing a narrative for their political party
They tried exposing the scam at Trump University, doesn’t make a difference when people reward the scammers
@@foxfire1112 More of it
Trust me when I say every good reporter wants to do this, but this stuff takes so much time and resources that most media companies either simply don't have or are unwilling to provide
ABC: shows up to hotel
Salesmen: "Ight ima head out"
Haha
IM not buying anything!
Communism is bad tho
Also, I don't think these people are "salesmen", more like scammers
Like snakes slithering out the door...
The typical hotel banquet room seminar scam.
Michael yep
I've gotten tons of free shit from these seminars lol. I used to eat for free at these things, as well as art galleries, in college too
All scams when anyone is offering free stuff like this.
Michael basically
I dont understand why the hotel even hosts them
Thorn wakes up every morning and tells himself in the mirror he’s a great salesman. “you got this Thorn. you can sell anything. you could sell a ketchup popsicle to a woman wearing white gloves. you’re that good.”
"I'll be frankly with ya, you're that good."
His brother Briar and his sister Stickers work there too.
lol context pls
That’s a pretty rad idea. Now I’m gonna start doing that
Thorne has a Facebook and Twitter, he goes by Thorne Alexander Greene. He is still a slimeball😂
Real journalists are straight GANGSTAS!! Not bloggers but real journalists. They do WHATEVER to get that story. I can't do anything but respect them.
Who falls for this shit..
Alright alright alright
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Ni...
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Old people with no common sense
so★ sadly people prob do ! Scum scammers
🤣🤣🤣🤣😂😂
It's always a good sign when everyone runs away LOL
jagrcantakeyou 😂
LMAO!!!
@@Fiberglasser03 4:30 the best part was then "Thorn" was mid explanation and looked at 3 more of his buddies running out the door haha
Look @ Thorn. His scamming buddies just leave & no one stays & helps him.
@@davidchan9632, the reporter did a great job of blowing the whistle 😙 on these clowns.
A bunch of cockroaches scurrying out of the room. 😂
How do they make a living consistently?
@@GinaBush-gb6tk timeshares are cancer.
Hope they go out of business.
HELL NO! I FUCKING HATE COCKROACHES! I HAVE CONSTANT BATTLE WITH THEM LIVING IN MY ROACH INFESTED APARTMENT! I COULDN’T EVEN GO OUT BECAUSE OF IT! I HAVE NO LIFE!
4:15 "ABORT ABORT...EVERYONE FOR THEMSELVES"
The way thorn touches her shoulder as he tries to explain things is just very unsettling to me.
Yea exactly, like...
"Get tf off my arm, bro!"
He’s one of those guys that thinks he’s attractive and hypnotizing 😂. It’s so cringe I’ve run into a few . I literally blow their spot everytime. Please take ur hand off me we’ve never been that close .
It’s hilarious how those guys ran out the door when they realized the jig was up 🤣
Sitharos 🏃
Cut a flipping trail.
Sith, the reporter's job is excellent. She's making cash by exposing trash from these sellers of snake oil.
@@valuecalc yeah! I’ve been thinking that it’s especially great for a news anchor to do this with their different set of audience compared to more mainstream videos about it.
@@finsflexin, yes. And it's a great service to the viewers. Avoiding these scam artists is the winning decision.
Only reason that guy thorn stayed is cause he thought that news reporter was the love of his life
Maybe he touched her to make her feel more attracted to him
@@aspiknf wow I saw you on the carpet beetle video
Yes my friend! :D
He is probably the new guy and was too stupid to leave. He probably thought he could just placate them with his rhetoric
Thorn thought he was about to get some pussy
The fact that this actually works on enough people to make it worth doing is why we are, as a society, where we are.
yeah, they all voted for Sleepy Joe
THIS!
I am fascinated by your exact statement and why people keep falling for it. My primary hobby is being besieged by counterfeiters. An items usually costs between $40-$80 and they'll see someone selling the same item, brand new, for $18 and debate whether to go for it. They do AND THEN get mad because they go burned. HOW IN THE #*@* DO YOU NOT GET IT!?!?!?!
The Republicans of America.
Ever heard of foreigners dumbass
this is the kind of reporting i enjoy. helping out the common man. thank you for these 🙏
And the reporter is doing quite a service. She makes her own cash by exposing trash.
"Why does that free trip cost so much money?" LMFAO
bigmike4758 I laughed too hard 😭😭
“I’ll be frank with you, I’m full of shit”
A bunch of scumbag bastards.
It's a scam. A bunch of phoney bastards.
Nothing is free hommie. Hell you cant even flush a turd down with paying the water bill
2 nights of any of 1,000 marriot hotels...Seconds later they are in the basement of holiday inn....
TidePodsz 😂😂😂😂
Hahahaha
Wait... Free night in a Holiday Inn basement? Where do I sign up?
Thought the same exact thing
😂😂😂
“We know you’re scamming”
Thorne: “To put it frankly...”
the ex signed us up for a time share presentation once. It was a pretty safe bet anyways because I dont "push". at the end of the presentation and the closers' pressure I politely said " I going to need to think it over" He got kind of frustrated saying "the statistics say that if you leave today without committing, you won't" To which I responded..."that is your problem not mine" ha ha
another gag I used to pull is when you have a solicitor offering something "free" I'd respond...I'm sorry I dont accept free gifts...used to blow their minds.
@@douglasw9624 HAHA!
Thorn, is Frankly, one of the sketchiest people I've ever heard, to be totally forward with you.
😂😂
Best comment😂
Hahahahaha
Hahahahahahaa
Book Snake
It’s a sales tactic. Touch communicates more than words, I’m sure he’s used to touching people on the shoulder. he is without a doubt a sleezeball though.
"I'll be honest with you...", "I'll be forward with you...", etc. Nothing but the first thing you hear when you're about to be lied to.
hes also "gonna be frank with you"
(😂LMAO!😂)
not always, but from a car type salesman yes
sadly, i use honest with you, to be honest, etc....and my thing is I really try to always be honest in life. So, its not always the case IMO
Generally when someone uses those phrases, it's a signal that they usually are NOT honest, frank, etc, but they're going to make an exception.
If thorny says "I will be honest with you", ......so Mr Thorne...you have not been honest before this moment huh?
I went to one of these presentations once and the guy who was our guide got so mad at us for declining to buy the package. We said we just came because we were promised certain free gifts. He got so angry and said we wasted his time and took food off his kids table. Um, okay. Stop promising free gifts then get mad when people don’t or can’t drop $20k on a vacation package. These people are sketchy as hell.
jimmysgirl1029 did they still give you the gift that was promised?
Lauren Harman actually we got a $100 gift card to a fancy restaurant and the reason we went. But their main gift was a cruise vacation we never took because of all the added costs. And on top of paying for the free cruise, they tack an inflated value to it which if we took it we have to claim on taxes at their stated value. It ended up being too complicated and we left it alone.
jimmysgirl1029 LOL U FELL FOR IT?!?!?!?!
DatGamerGurl we just went for the $100 gift card which we got. The cruise was their big ticket promised gift which we didn’t care for to begin with, so we didn’t care to pursue it further after learning of all the added expenses. We only wanted the gift card. Didn’t really fall for anything.
jimmysgirl1029 LOL bullshit you left empty handed. Why are you lying? These people are trying to TAKE money you wish you got a 100$ gift card 🤣🤣🤣 hahahahahaha LIARRRRRR
U wanna know something funny? I actually attended something like this with my dad with the promise of a free cruise afterwards. It was a time share presentation. We were there 3 grueling hours. We didn’t buy it…. But we really went on a cruise afterwards. It’s a miracle it wasnt a scam.
Thorn!!! Is this really you posting this so suckers go to more of your presentations??? Nice try buddy.
Time shares are usually legit on their offers, most I've gotten was brunch though haha. After a tough morning through sales.
I cant wait until they scam the wrong person and they get the shit kicked out of them lol.
Or they get to meet the Manson family up close and all personal like and shit...
Then the good guy gets arrested. Where's the justice in that?
@QuIgYx I like the 2nd part better. Liars usually have sweet & savory meat.
Or killed
QuIgYx Yes because salesmen are very well known for going into bathrooms with random people and the US is known for their warlords. You get that this is a US only thing right? 🤦♀️
Scattering like cockroaches when they knew they were busted. Why can’t these washed up salesmen get jail time for these scams, how is this legal?
Because it's in the fine print. Read before you sign
@@betterthanmost9549 No better yet realize nothing is Free. When you get a call offering free stuff hang up.
@Bob Anon personally i dont agree with prostitution morally, but legalizing it would definitely make it safer. but to think it would stop human sex trafficking is idiotic.
@Bob Anon look up all the studies. the scale effect vs substitution effect. countries with legalized prostitution have higher inflows of trafficking
@Bob Anon im sorry dude i dont link sources in youtube comment sections cause i have better or more productive things. but i told you what to look up, now look it up. and no reason to use that demeanor this is a civilized conversation man.
What! No free ticket! What a surprise!
atleast we get a free glass of water and luxery
Something very similar happened to me. I had filled out a "raffle" ticket at the state fair to win a car. Several months later I got a call saying I basically won. I was like 17-18 at the time, and because I wasn't 21 I needed a parent to come too. Well, it was a scam for time sharing! They pulled the exact same scam that these people did. Thankfully I learned this lesson at a young age. 😂🤷
They teach marketing in College. This is BUT one type.
Read and wake up. Companies all over the world do this.
It's called building your contact base. OR funneling.
Marketing 101.
Is No one talking about the black dude that sounds like Samuel. L Jackson
Rake WasHere wait...he isn’t?
@@yeseniarivera1956 LMAOOOO
With a hint of Steve Harvey!
All black people look and sound the same.
@@jtm232556 true true
I feel I'm cheating on Lisa geurrero by watching this
Han Shen yes I was just imagining how hard she’d interrogate “Thorne”
THOUGHT IT WAS
She's going to confront you in a cheap mask and wig now.
I would like Lisa to investigate me now
Yea except this lady is much more beautiful❤️
This guy doesn't know how to be frank, he's thorne
Horacio Martinez lmao most underrated comment
Horacio Martinez thats HILARIOUS!! 😂😂😂😂 I LOVE YOU SINCE OF HUMOR!
Horacio Martinez DON'T MESS WITH THORNE- HE'S MY BOY
$59.95 More feed n she can get off her knees n go on vacation
#LMFAO!!
I love the enthusiasm from the crackhead at 2:00
If anyone starts using the lines “honestly” or “frankly” or “I’ll be straight up with you” , all they are saying is they have not been honest and are going to continue to lie to u.
Typical compulsive liar behavior and lingo.
This guy wakes up in the morning to lie. And goes to sleep to get rest so he can get up and do it all over again.
He lives to lie. Compulsive and habitual liar.
Aka pos
I'll say honestly. Because I'm honest, lmao.
Yea good advice anyone who just volunteers the "fact" that they are honest, are 100% of the time a scammer.
this is the product of Trump University
Michael Weston.... I cant count how many times the Clintons said they were honest and always told the truth.
@eric wsmith good for you? what does that have to do with anything? cows have 4 stomachs. giraffes have gestation periods of over 400 days.
I gotta say it was admirable/entertaining watching "Thorn" hustle and BS his way through the interview on the fly while the rest of his crew abandoned him lol.
Entertaining yes. Admirable no
Why admirable?!?!? Is a reporter, is her job to ask annoying questions, entertaining, yes. I like when thief can't answer the questions and start nervous
@@veneno276 overall it’s not admirable, but if everyone else leaves and you stay to “explain yourself” it’s a little admirable. A little lol, not a lot, just a little. Could’ve tucked his tail and left like everyone else but he didn’t.
He has a Twitter and Facebook. His name is Thorne Alexander Green
Sounds like he drew the short straw lol
Roaches scatter when the lights turn on.
it is metaphor
The laws need to be changed so that they can be prosecuted properly.
Yes, but people should understand that nothing's free.
Thorn looks like he’s sell his grandmas house with her still in it
He looks like he'd live in his grandmother's house with her dead in the attic
He looks like he’d burn it with her still in it for an insurance scam.
Basically, he ain't s***.
don’t knock it till you try it 🤌🏿💰💰💰
His name is Thorne Alexander Greene and he has social media
This is why I stick with Nigerian email offers.
Smart Man
You can get a piece of the fortune brotha
@Panacatita Atom Indian tech support is the best - they fixed my computer just last week ;)
Seriously???? This has been around forever. Nothing is for free, EVER.
A car ride to jail is free. You just have to pay to get out.
That's the point of this
You’ll never convince socialists of that. Bernie will tell you what’s free.
air is free.
@Feedthe5000 I've had a timeshare for about 12 years, I got it off someone who was giving it away, so I just pay the yearly taxes on it. I love it. I sold timeshare at the time, and know all about it.
'who calls himself Thorn' literally the world's largest red flag.
“I’ll be Frank with you.”
You said your name was Thorne, you freaking con man
@@thesalandarian3314 scam
lmaooooo
VGV Tomato HEY! I just now saw this thread. Give me that fricken voucher!!!
I know this is late but being frank means to be open and honest.
@@cire8122 lmao it was a joke
5:25 first he says he is Thorn, now he's Frank... who are you!??
His name is Jeff
I’ll be Frank with you, his name is Frank.
Frank Thorn: Tacky Salesman Extraordinaire!
Taylor Carris no, my name is Jeff
Now let me be Frank my name is frank with you.
This is actual investigative journalism. If this was a political story she would have just read an internet article and then posted a piece about how it made her feel.
Jonathan Staso project veritas
She would have copied and pasted a statement given to her by the company explaining why their scam is actually legit. End of investigation.
Jonathan Staso true
You've never worked as a journalist, I take it? But you seem to have a lot of insight into how politics journalists work. Interesting. How did you learn this, what newsrooms have you been in?
They would've quoted someone from twitter
MY wife and I did this while at Disneyworld back in 2008. Our boys were approx. 4, 6, and 8 years old at the time and we all sat through a presentation on our last day there in Orlando at a Sheraton. They tried to sell us on the Disney timeshare but we kept saying no and they did give us our free gift which I believe was a Visa gift card. Guess we were lucky to have them honor the deal.
Should we reply to the nigerian prince next?
World Boss racist.
Toni Wesley how is that racist if that actually is a scam
Elisa Mwangi Oh. I get it.
You don't want to help him out with his money issues? They asked nicely.
Toni Wesley Jesus Christ
It would have been better if they were arrested.
much better
That Thorne guy seemed super sketchy, like a criminal on the run
Cheez Nutz you mean frank😂
He sure does have a nice suit I wonder how he bought it 🤔😂
I bought the suit at Jos A Bank in Woodbury NY in 2013. Criminals on the run don’t typically interview.
“Congratulations welcome on board”
"Hi, my name is Thorne"
Well right away that should be a red flag.
Help me destroy the ncr
@@northwestwendover the Ncr isn't what it could've been
i will control the strip....
LONG LIVE NCR
DEATH TO THE LEGIONNAIRES
They DID keep part of their promise. The part about the free hotel stay. You got to stay at the hotel (meeting room) for 2 hours for free!
“Ima be frank with ya” *delivers another heaping dose of bs*
This frank guy he keeps referring to, must be a liar
That makes you Kelly. Duh...
Paden Martin guess he was being frank. Fibbing Frank
Marek Hampel woah is this top.comment.god or what
Well to be frank with you he didn’t say “imma be honest with you”, he didn’t lie. Technically he goes by the name Frank when he talks to you.
I've been to 3 timeshare presentations. At 1, I got free SeaWorld tickets (back in my unenlightened days). At the 2nd, I got 2 free nights at the Loon Mountain resort in our mtns (in NH) which was awesome. The 3rd, I got dumb airline tickets I could never use just like this video shows.
The key is to hold strong and stick by your "no". They'll all get pissed at you and send 8 salesmen but just keep saying "no", get your free gifts then leave.
"I'll be Thorn with you..."
*Tip: If you can’t tell how a transaction would benefit the other person, it’s a scam.*
Moviepass laughs in bankruptcy
Facts!
not necessarily, the benefits can be presented however it could just be a straight up lie.
consumer, product owner, product, currency, transaction mechanism. if you can't understand or identify even one of them, you walk away.
@Hope Von Gremp hope you're reporting that money to the irs or I'll do it for you
I did one of these about 13 years ago. Presentation in San Diego, they actually paid for my hotel room (2 days) and gave me a 75 dollar gift card for a specific seafood restaurant. The presentation was 2 hours long and although they didn't like that I was so direct with them "I don't have money for a timeshare, I will not be buying a timeshare no matter what you say." They still honored the freebies.
Same thing happened to me today. They gave me the gifta but I am afraid do cash them. Please advise
Ok, Thorn...
@@C-gt42069 😂😂
These days, they put one under very high-pressure attics, practically holding people hostage with beefy guys surrounding you, not letting people leave! There are videos on this! Police were called to free the people!
@William Batson the same happened to me didn't buy nothing and still they gave 4 tickets to Magic Kingdom
I work in sales on a smaller scale and it’s very common knowledge that if someone straight up says they’re not going to buy anything today, they’re not going to buy something. It’s honestly a blessing because you then know not to waste anymore time and move on to the next customer.
I never buy the day I visit, but I always return and buy within a few days. They always say you won't return...lol
@@findmeanewplanetif u don’t buy today you don’t buy at all
Scam artists!
misshollybrooke scam artists? No. Scam artists are just that, artists. They have genius, cunningly outwitting anyone. So much so that it is an art form. These guys prey on the desperate and the ignorant. They are bottom feeders that are the farthest thing from an artist.
misshollybrooke .. .
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The funny thing is ABC is a scammer too, time paid for by the rich. They will throw little guys like this under the bus for our entertainment because we all like to hate these people. More ad revenue, because they know how we behave as people. They know are instinctual need for violence, hatred and controversy. We give them the views instead of turning it off and self improving ourselves and the country....haha
Patrick -- TV is evil because it offers a substitute for attempting to better yourself every hour of every day? C'mon. Are magazines evil too? How bout board games?
I would NEVER need a job bad enough to be one of those scum bags. Barf.
Logan Stroganoff I could called for one week. I'd rather shovel dung for 12 hours a day
AG needs to wipe the smile off his face and do his job. Prosecute these scam artist liars. We don't want to hear the difficulties in your job anymore than you want to hear ours.
Right? Is it hard to prosecute or hard for him to say no to pay offs?
He has to explain why it’s difficult to track these people down because of people like you who complain “they don’t do their job.”
Daniel Robinson What? That his job, what does people complaining have to do with it? You sound like the salesman.
He doesn't give a shit about people getting scammed out of his money. He just wants to make it seem like he doesn't do that on a regular basis
Symmetry Tanner the law protects these scum...people have to learn to say no to bullshit scams early. say NO. walk away from it. We can't blame prosecuters for impotency on one side and then want governmental justice on the other...we must be involved and part of the governmental community as active citizens. make people aware. complaining against your own body does not make it whole.
My wife and I did the whole thing with this free trip stuff.
They skipped on the airfare, gave show tickets instead, and still got the 2 nights stay.
...luckily...
Damn that room couldn't have cleared out faster if there was an active shooter event.
SymbolicLogic24 they probably would have tried to sign the shooter up for a free vacation!
You win the internet
Shouldn’t the seminar held at the Holiday Inn Express be all you need to know? After all, the Marriott is mentioned in the prize.
They have thousands of Marriott locations but can't book a single one. lmao
I watched this like 2 years ago anybody else just get this in recommended?
DaddyFireball I just did, basically 30 minutes after this comment 😂
Yeah, I liked it.
I just got it
Same homie lol
Same here
2:02 man that lady was excited about her free trip! 🤣🤣
Unfortunately the fact is : They would not be doing this if people didn't fall for it.
Kevin H. People would not fall for it if they didn't lie... and if police/justice was more active on those issues, they also would not be doing it...
The name changing as an excuse is quit the joke, a scam should be prosecuted against the person orchestrating it, not the legal entity.
Kevin H. Blaming the victim is a trait of a sociopath/psychopath. That's what criminals do........ It's a shame you can't understand that.
William Brandon Davis that's some fine psychologically evaluation based on one comment right there.
They Lying and braking the law in so many ways.. don‘t blame the victims.
They would not be doing this if it was illegal....... which it should be illegal.
But since it’s NOT illegal, I totally understand why people will lie and cheat to get people’s money. I mean if there’s no law against getting rich that way then why not do it? Especially if you don’t have a conscience
“Alright alright alright!”
Shut up, lady. Lol
Honey Dipper Dan 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Andre Roestenberg follow suit?
“Always have a white guy in the crew because somebody has gotta talk to the police”
Dave Chappelle
Lmaoooo
True ahah
Or maybe the white guy is the mastermind , manipulating vulnerable people
😂 😂 😂
🤣🤣🤣🤣
They totally abandoned Thorne 🤣😂
Olivia Emerson 😂😂😂 I didn’t even think of it that way but 😬😬😬😂😂😂😂
Olivia look at how he turns and looks at them like _"you guys are just gonna leave me here?!"_
He got thrown into the briar patch.
He was left on the clothesline to dry
By the time you pay all these activation fees you bought the plane tickets
If those ads were real I’d have an endless amount of money, all the iPhones ever, 2999 Volkswagen beetles just from the early 2000s and traveled the entire world twice.
And meet that girl 2 miles away
You don‘t, because I bought them all with the money I‘ll get from this Nigerian Minister of Development Strategy, who unfortunally got the flu so he can‘t make it to Western Union by himself.
Sounds exhausting, tbh
Ah, so I see you've seen the responding to spam emails TED talk
At least there's free porn..
Who else thinks it hilarious how Thorne's "business partners" walked out on him? lmao!
He was a patsy. Lol
“Alright Thorne, here they come. Me and Levin are going out the back door”
It just happened to be lunch time when the news reporter showed up!
Just like rats on a sinking ship.
Not funny at all. They are bastards!!!
I literally had this happen a few years ago in California. Me and my girlfriend spent 2 hours getting pressured by Frankie Muniz’s dad, it’s the first thing he mentioned of course. And then he got super pissed when we told him we weren’t buying anything. I googled him and it was really was his dad but it doesn’t seem like they have the best relationship. He came across as a greedy scumbag who was using his sons name to try to rip people off. It was a very weird and unforgettable situation.
I pictured Walter White for just a second.
@@TheBluestreak147 Lol no, his other dad.
Such a joke
Sheepreme 😂 your name and pic
P.S. I’ve commented this before on another comment of yours.
lol thanks
Your fucking name is hilarious 😂
Shootings should happens at such semminars not schools.... learn dumb suiciders fkkk
FDB 7. Nl.p.
This scam has been going on for years. I had this happen to me 20 years ago. I went to the presentation and was given a so called free vacation voucher. I had to pay 50.00 for a booking fee. After I paid the fee they had no available dates. They wouldn't give my money back either. Its a pretty good scam. They will never be caught. Too good to be true and it is.
Sounds like you got a pretty good deal. It only cost you $50 to learn a million dollar lesson.
Idiot
I had a offer to look at some lakeside property, with an offer of my choice of a Lowes gift card, a color tv, or one other item (I don't remember what it was). I went into it knowing I would probably walk away without anything, but simply expecting a road trip and a hard sell. I got what I was expecting, and when the end of the tour came around, and I made it clear that I wasn't interested, but still wanted the gift card, they claimed they were out of them. I complained profusely, but ended up getting a tv that I used for several years.
The trick is knowing it is a scam and acting accordingly. If they ask for money at any point, that's when you refuse. If they insist, walk away.
i get automated calls all the time saying ive been chosen and have to attend a presentation to receive my vacation
They will be caught, but by then they will be under a different company name and they won't be able to be prosecuted.
@ 2:02 ......"alrightalrightalright!!!" .....the cringe....
mutalix dumb crackhead thinking that she's going to get free tickets.
WELCOME
ABOARD
mutalix xD
No dipshit, he sounds like Samuel L Jackson
mutalix racist
Great work!
This is the type journalism we need more of.
A total scam, they’re crooks, they should be ashamed of themselves.
just like those Indian scammers
They should be arrested and sent to prison. They're nothing but thieves in suits.
Lvl 1 crooks?
David well there only in business cuz people are stupid enough to fall for this.
Exactly. I had some sales jobs in my younger years & would never sell anything you wouldn’t sell your family & friends. Those sales guys bolted the first chance they got.
Remember this people, there is no such thing as FREE in life.
If you get something free, then YOU are the product.
Tits
I applied for a scholarship once that amounted to several thousand dollars. When I handed in my paperwork the teacher told me my chances were pretty good. I asked why that was and he told me, "because they award two scholarships per school and you're the only student in the whole school who bothered applying." Needless to say, I got the scholarship.
The schooling was all paid for anyways by my employer through some tuition reimbursement program which I was the only employee to take advantage of as well. To top it all off, I was able to write it all off on my taxes and got a nice refund at the end of the year.
Free deals do exist out there, you just have to know where to look.
Why did UA-cam suspend your account?? I subscribed by the way.
I mean death is free to you. But after you die somebody needs to pay to do something with your body.
Lol he looked around like y'all just gone leave me to do this alone lol
I think it was more so, he was called in to do the talking. There's always one smooth talker that doesnt cower from a camera.
The guys running out the door at the sight of a camera is all you need to see. Also, gotta love how this “Thorn” guy was sweating BUCKETS at the simple questions 😂
If it sounds too good to be true, then it is.
Girlfriend: Are you cheating on me?
Thorne: To put it frankly...
“You didn’t read the fine print”. Lol
I doubt this creep has a girlfriend.
"See the third party company is offering a relationship, I never offered that relationship."
Best YT comment I’ve seen all year.
He has social media. His name is Thorne Alexander Greene ftw.
This was a good story. I like it when the news stays away from politics and gets to the actual scandals that are happening everywhere.
High pressure sales tactics were used by a company I worked for in the past, which will go unnamed.
I installed water treatment systems. The company I worked for sold them for upwards of $6000. They made tons of promises that are absolute BS. 'Lifetime warranty' and 'free lifetime supply of soap and cleaning products', all of which was not true. Yes, you did get some cleaning products, but there's no way they'd last any family a lifetime--even a family of two, lol. And there was never a lifetime warranty on the system--for the cylinder, not the computer that makes it work, LOL. And you still had to pay yearly service fees and purchase parts when they need replacement.
See, I don't have a problem with any of that. I do have a problem when you trick people into coming into their homes for a 'special water test', which is really just a sales pitch filled with exaggerations or outright lies. They pressure naive people into buying a crappy deal. More than one customer told me it was the worse decision they ever made in their lives. I won't say the name bc they've been known to sue people for slander, or libel, or whatever it is when it's in print.
The fact is I witnessed the sales' shenanigans firsthand--I originally trained to be a salesmen (I was 19 at the time and naive myself), but I realized after a week there was no way I could do it. Only after I started working in the service and installation department did I learn all the real truths about those water softeners, and all the added costs. For the customers that had money it usually wasn't a big deal. For the ones who didn't--and there were a lot--it was a huge deal. Why not just be honest about everything? Why the deception? That's what gets me.
......because bigger portion of our population values money higher than humanity. Sadly.
IKR? I wish they would stick with real news. Stop with the fake and or misleading political news! Then just maybe they will get some of the public's trust back. Make News Great Again!
Did you work for RainSoft? Lol. You don't have to answer that.
Right, because you value entertainment more than world events. Unless it were Fox; then you'd watch.
woah there buddy
My family did one of these, except the presentation was for some vacation homes at the beach. We were promised free tickets to Medieval Time and surprisingly, we got them. Didn’t buy/rest any of the homes. I know this is a lesser scale instead of the vacations, but 🤷🏻♀️
Thank you for letting everyone know about such scams. Now we know how to treat letters from PPV Travels.
The universal truth in life: “If it’s too good to be true, it probably is”
The grammar Nazi in me is stirring.
unfortunately these days, millions of kids have been brainwashed into thinking "free stuff" comes with no cost. and if it does, just steal the money from people who have worked their whole lives to save up.
You meant, "...it probably isnt" ?
@@hisexcellencypresidentofre4118 no
I got a $150 voucher for sitting through a presentation like this.
It’s so funny how all the men just started walking out the room after abc news showed up 4:33 😂
Code green! Everybody run!
@@dangleason9023 🏃🏃🏃😂😂😂
They all look like a bunch of ex-cons
That's how you know they're up to shady stuff. Soon as the news crew showed up they bailed because they didn't want to be exposed
They knew they were up to some shady shit
"you might think it was a christmas miracle" no, i would think it was a scam immediately and disregard lmfao
These snake oil salesmen need to be locked up.
Mike Hughes the idiots that turn up deserve to be locked up. Supply and Demand my friend. If these idiots didnt fall for the scam these guys couldn’t stay in business
+Dan O; not complete idiots to give a person a chance. Idiot to stay past the cringy intro. Might be bored and conference is in their town. No big cost. My respect to all the people who show up just to make a scene and piss on the scammers parade. Alright alright alright lady might have been subtly trying to demonstrate the insanity.
2:03 please lady , NO .. just stop
Yeesus Crust she may be a paid performer or one of their employees trying to rev up the crowd.
Yeesus Crust b
Trisha Yamada Very true, but if she wasn't that guy was like yep we got a few for sure this time lol
David Miller sadly, that is a possibility. Oy!
She was way too excited lmao
"I'll be frank with you..." - here comes a lie
He probably meant Frank Reynolds
I’ll be frank with you, your UA-cam channel is entertaining
He sounded like Trump.
Exactly! I would've been much more appreciative of that type of "candor".
Frank? I thought he was Thorne? Maybe he's just a Democrat speaking his native language.
These people are predators. There’s a reason it’s too good to be true. Really makes you wonder how someone like that sleeps at night. I imagine they’ve bilked a fortune out of people that were not even interested to begin with. It almost happened to us! We did the same thing. Go in, listen to the schtick and cop a free trip. Nope. They wouldn’t let us leave. Moved from room to room and different salesperson trying to push us to sign. Two and a half hours later my wife was mad at me for setting it up! We left totally mad! Now, we think about it and laugh.
Old Farmer, notice how the reporter herself wouldn't fall for this garbage ever? She's paid good cash to expose trash.
Wouldn't let you leave? Call the police.
@@windsofmarchjourneyperrytr2823, then the cops could charge those snakes with additional crimes.
That black dude walks up and hands that paper to him like "show her this paper. We ain't doin shit wrong" 😂😂
Confidence right there..lol
He looked straight out of the 60s
Lmaoo the look of pure hatred he gave her was priceless