My Dream Director for a Bioshock film would be Guillermo Del Toro. Watch the beginning scene of Shape of Water and tell me it doesn't look like Rapture.
Del Toro would be good to make the Splicers costumes. Just take a look at the demons in the Hellboy movies, they almost SCREAM Splicers. I don't think he'd be a good idea for bringing Big Daddies to life though. Maybe leave that to Zach Snyder (in the same vein as Sucker Punch) or something.
Main problem with adapting this game: people familiar with it already know the two big twists. This isn't insurmountable. Captain America: The Winter Soldier remains Marvel's best solo film despite most comic fans knowing the twist, because the film added new twists. A Bioshock film would need to do the same. But I can't imagine what that new twist would be.
Agreed. I like the way comic book movies offer a slight variation or additional hook for people who think they know the source material. Honestly though? Even if it is just the twist from the games, it would be worth it to me Just to watch a whole audience experience it that never would have bothered to play the games. AKA, I'd love my wife to suddenly love the franchise and I can tell her I liked it before it was cool :)
I think we should have an aftermath of Bioshock two (a city in ruin) with flash backs of masquerades and story behind it, then at the end we find out Andrew Ryan is still alive like the whole Fontaine atlas thing and hes been narrating. Then it shows him drawing up new plans??!!
I consider the twists the least important part of the Bioshock story. I think the most important part is the setting, the atmosphere, the unfolding tale of Raptures's fall as we make our way through it's still twitching corpse.
I'm still really blown away by there being actually fans of Bioshock still out there. I adore these games immensely and BRAVO to any soul out there who actually knows a hair about the perfect DLC Gem called Minerva's Den. The points here are so on the mark, I don't you could have made a better list. Rapture remains that perfect game environment where you can all a decaying city, old timey music, ghosts, some bits of haunted beauty and it all just works. As you said yourself, anyone out there would KILL to have all of this already when they start crafting up a film. Whether anything happens with Bioshock is always that, "time will tell," mentality. But credit to you making such a genuinely perfect video to note the good/bad/notable when it comes to making a film that can work and hit the ground. Also, thank you endlessly on mentioning about needing to focus on the movie itself and not the 1000x projects that "could" come despite the movie being still made. *shudders in thought about the Universal Studios Monster Universe* PS - The videos seriously needs a ton more praise. From an old Bioshock fan, keep on keeping being the one that chooses the impossible. *Electro-Bolt high fives*
I hope not. I think the best way to go is tell the Bioshock 1 story, do it right, get us invested, build a brand with a great first story... THEN they can go and tell the story of how things came to be or tell parallel adventures. If they try to do a prequel first and it's not good, no one will care about it and they wont even get to the point where they can make the stories from the games, which would be a shame
Though I still think the novel Bioshock: Rapture was an amazing read telling the origin story of Ryan, Rapture, and the collapse, I agree that the audience first needs to be engulfed by the storyline from Bioshock 1...but the book also had so much detail of mystery and thrilling twists that it needs to be a movie. Especially the detail of Fontaine and how he came to be an integral player in Rapture's demise
@@davecolumbo6 months late the problem with that is that Jack doesn’t talk. Making an adaptation of the first game(which they’re doing) will ultimately be a disaster since again Jack doesn’t talk and the whole game is built around player choice!!
I hated the dystopian genre until I played Bioshock. For me, it got everything right. What I loved the most about it was that it was fair to the subject it was criticizing. You hear Ryan's opening monologed and immediately you can see the dream behind the dystopia. Any pieces of work that gets to understand the tyrannical business millionaire is doing something extraordinary.
Great point. I love ehe complexity for the viewer to hear Ryan's monologue but also see the results of his folly, it's not a basic "WE WANT YOU TO FEEL THIS WAY" narrative and more a nuanced story unfolding. Right from the get go I was like "THIS IS GOING TO BE SPECIAL"
Really cool video, agree with all of your points. I was obsessed with the franchise as it came out and was never able to play it as a kid. Then about 5 years ago I managed to play all of the games. I especially enjoyed the part where you highlight the possibilities that come with this movie, the atmosphere is so rich and full, it literally screams for professional make up, costumes, right lightning choices and especially scoring. Really looking forward to it, hope they don't mess it up.
I feel like if this is will happen, the costume team for the movie should take inspiration from ww1 face surgeries, like what they did for the first game
I'll argue that if it's adapting the first game they should probably give Jack a companion or two. I feel like following one person and rarely seeing the other main characters might not translate well to a movie. My suggestion is Johnny (The guy killed at the start) stays around for a bit longer before Atlas tags along with our hero in person. Halfway through Tenenbaum replaces Atlas as Jack's primary companion like she does over the radio in the game. Other things I'd include would be flashbacks taken from the Rapture novel and the characters listening to diaries much like the source material. As unthinkable as it sounds I think giving Jack an actual personality is probably the hardest thing when it comes to making this work as pure viewing experience. A silent protagonist doesn't cut in in a movie like this. I'd double down on him being an "average joe" caught up in this chaos. He'll try talking first before resorting to violence and is surprised he's so skilled at combat. All he really wants is to just return to his family on the surface and be done with it, telling stories of his parents and cousins to his companions and why they're so important to him. The inevitable reveal shatters him and would need some serious talking to in order to get back on track. Jack would be at first scared and a bit whiney. He become a bit cocky after getting more guns and plasmids but is then humbled by the twist, turning into a man who just wants freedom. Preferably this follows the "good" path and Jack will rescue and feel kinship with the Little Sisters. Maybe have a splicer harvest one as warning to Jack that Rapture is truly rotten.
You make some amazing points and I hope they do them. Even though I’m sceptical I’m confident Netflix’s unsubtle politics won’t clash with Bioshock’s creative and engaging commentary/politics.
Part of me would love to see a multi-season series that adapted the book Bioshock: Rapture; where it told the story of key figures within Rapture, the building and fall of the city and planting the seeds of the 1st game's story. It's like they took the stories posed by the audio diaries from the games and expanded on them to make a prequel that would answer the questions that weren't answered in the game.
I personally think that JT music should do some of the soundtrack considering he made songs for both bioshock 1+2 and bioshock Infinet! Like how TeamHeadKick had the deadpool song for the DP movie!
I hope this movie is well made, I was sad to hear the results of when the first one was gonna be made, and I hope this one blows us away as much as our first trip to Rapture does. I still get chills when I see Rapture despite the fact I've played the game more than once. I mean, it's crazy that the setting of a game less grounded in reality (or many it's more grounded than we think) makes me feel more like I'm there than the more realistic setting of Night City from Cyberpunk 2077, that city does feel empty and lacking. I still love Cyberpunk 2077, but if I had to pick a game that makes me feel like I'm really there, it's Bioshock, the first one to be more Specific
It also would help if the writers and directors learn from the source material. Which no one seems to do nowadays. Isn't that right, Paramount's Halo, Black Widow, Thor: Love and Thunder, etc?
If they nail this movie, I'm going to be thrilled! Now, the only other game-related movie that still needs to come to light is American McGee's Alice. After these two (as long as they are excellent), I can die happy.
I just started playing bioshock , I’ve always wanted to play it but never got around to it , now that I’m playing it , I love everything about it ! I’m kinda upset at myself for not playing it many years ago when it came out ! Lol ! But at a time when we are lacking in great games , I’m really enjoying this game and plan on playing all of them all the way through !
They'll fuck it up. Netflix fucks EVERYTHING up; they focus on all the wrong things. The sets will look perfect, background will be filled with visually accurate details and easter eggs to say "LOOK WE'RE SOOO FAITHFUL" while the plot is mangled, lore completely changed, and characters woefully miscast or drastically and unrecognizeably changed. And the pacing will be absolutely godawful. Netflix shows are not designed to be GOOD, they're designed to keep you binge watching. They have no concept of pacing or narrative flow, they just feel like all of the narrative peaks and valleys got put into a blender, made into a homogeneous goo, squeezed out of a tube, and chopped into evenly timed chunks. You can't even call them "episodes".
Sorry I found this vid so late. Playing through the series again right now - I've known about this adaptation for a while. Still think it should be a limited 6-10 episode series and it should split time between laying the foundational backstory along with a current event story around the events of the first game. Jamming some kind of self-contained narrative around this rich world into a 1.5 to 2.5 hour project is just a recipe for shortchanging it...not to mention alienate any fresh viewers with no knowledge of what's going on in the games. As a gamer, maybe I can just enjoy the gameplay and not worry about everything behind the story (much of which you probably won't fully wrap your head around without multiple playthroughs), but as a viewer of a movie or program, I need something that pulls me into the world. Without the tangible interactivity of the game, this will need to have some foundational hook to ground the people new to Bioshock into this universe. Otherwise, it's destined to be a niche body horror oddity that won't satisfy fans of the games or anyone with no background in them.
You may be right. I know personally for me though, I've seen far more movies that nail an aesthetic than I have seen TV shows that do the same. Even expensive high end TV shows I feel like I can see the set, see the effects, and the padding a lot of shows do to extend things unnecessarily. I just think a good solid 2 hour movie that is self contained could make audiences beg for more, and then you can expand. So many of the best franchises of all time started with one standalone movie that teased a bigger world.
I’m honestly really worried for it. My expectations aren’t that high. Honestly it feels like the writers from Prime could make a much greater adaptation into a well.. show.
Honestly I think it should be a show and since we know the story of Bioshock one and two are a separate universe from Infinite (the lighthouses) I would make the story a combination of all 3 things but still set in rapture. Instead of starting with Jack on the plane start with Andre Rianofski (Andrew Ryan) from fleeing his home country with his father as a child coming to America as an adult starting and losing his industry to the construction of Rapture the city at its peak and then its fall kind of like The Aviator if anyones ever scene that.
I can't believe I'm saying it, but Bioshock might be the ONE series that I'd be okay with Tim Burton directing. As long as Gulemlo del Toro is put in charge of costumes/character designs.
You sir have just come across my recommended videos I think that's because I too I'm currently streaming bioshock I got a good deal on bioshock bioshock 2 and bioshock infinite So I'm actually streaming the first one twice a week and then I'll move on to the next one and then the final one I must ask since you were so fascinated with bioshock what are your feelings on them coming out with bioshock 4 I heard it's been in the making for some time now and it's supposed to be an open world what are your opinions on that And what do you hope to see in this open world if it does become a thing
All it has to do is to follow the games philosophy of not treating the player like a complete troglodite & explore tough interesting questions not only about humanity at large but the people playing the game themselfs by giving choices.. Totaly easy peasy & simple to convert into movie form
I can kinda see your vision for how the movie should be and I hope they do make the movie that way, even though I've yet to play all 3 games. I do, however, think that we as the audience should create and encourage filmmakers to use a list of practices, techniques and story beats we actually enjoy. Not all the time, but at least some of them, some of the time. Stuff like: -Practical effects form the minor stuff that's expensive to do in CG and looks shit. -Creating new characters instead of gender or race-swapping existing ones -No fast-cutting for every fight! That's all that comes to mind right now.
I really REALLY love those games.ive played all of them and can't wait for the next one,and I've been really wanting this game to be turned into a horror movie and I believe that it will be a GOOD one
I feel like they just need to tell the story of raptures rise and fall. That would transfer the best to screen. You can still hide that Fontaine didn’t actually die so you can keep the Atlas reveal.
"There's always a lighthouse, there's always a man, there's always a city." They could create a movie that has nothing to do with the original Bioshock universe or the Colombia universe.
I hope the protagonist is Jack and not a random dude/woman who's name is different, I know Jack doesn't talk, but you can give him a personality and also make him react to everything in his path
I honestly dont know how they could adapt the game into the movie. The better story for a movie would probably be about the beginning, rise and fall of rapture.
Can’t believe you didn’t like infinite? It did pull the others together and show how they were connected and left you with questions on who’s who in each game with tons of possibilities. I’ve played all of them multiple times including the DLC and I’m a huge collector but like I said infinite was the one where the story really blew me away. The thing with different protagonist, well it shows how each place handled the drugs differently but showed how each failed. I’d love if the director of the great gatsby had some input for set design and cinematic side of it . A cure for wellness did a pretty decent job with picking up after the cancelled Bioshock movie and gave an idea on how it should be.
I believe it will work cause of the written and the director cause Francis Lawrence made Constantine i am legend red sparrow slumberland water for elephants visually stunning and also some horror and as for the writer who wrote murder on the orient express Logan blade runner 2049 and alien covenant with this we have a visionary director with dark but stylish films and a writer that has wrote some deep interesting and outstanding films and a horror with the new film a haunting in Venice they are a good choice and they are sticking more to the game this will be an arcane or cup head or Witcher season 1 as the best Netflix is bad at making anime but games they have proven they can do it right
I think a movie focusing on one central character (Jack) that stares into the darkness and picks up and listens to audiotapes occasionally would be pretty boring. The plot needs to be interesting, needs to go somewhere, and needs to have something to say. The game has actually a well lot to say, even if you take away Jack, all the gameplay, and even the plot twist (which pretty much all the people going to watch the movie probably know by now). I would really love however, if the movie would focus on the Fontaine/Ryan feud (since both have layered, interesting personalities), the smuggling operation, Ryan's punishments, with characters like Diane, Jasmine, Sander Cohen, or even dr Steinman getting more and more crazier. The utiopia turns into dystopia amidst a fast spreading addiction to Adam (it would also be interesting, if it turned out, Adam users only THINK they have superpowers), and we would see how a society built on an originally promising philosophy (objectivism) collapses, leading to the unavoidable destruction of the underwater city. That would be more thought provoking than wacthing a gamer pleasing lenghty fight where a big daddy going up in flames drills through a dozen splicers brutally. For the latter entertainment, just play the game? 🤷
I think the only thing that make this film/series work, is making Ken Levine and Paul Hellquist (and the rest of the lead workers, sorry i don't remember much people form irracional Games) be in the team of work and be the consultors for EVERYTHING. The last of us work basically for have the creators supervising the production. I image the reaction of producers: What? Consulting the creators made the show it mades work? HOW!!!!???? P.D: Sorry for my bad english
i feel like they cant make a more than average adaptation because of the best scene in the game is unadaptable in movie-tv format. the adaptation will end up being "ooh look at thing from game i understood that reference" like everything is nowadays
@@davecolumbo I just watched the trailer. I think it looks good. But. Netflix always makes their trailers and shit look good. Idk I hope they don't rush through the story just to have a some what complete show
The thing I hate most about videogame adaptations is the filmmakers’ insistence on “doing their own story” instead of faithfully adapting the story from the game that everyone fell in love with. I wanted a Resident Evil film set in the Spencer Mansion with Jill and Chris. Not whatever it was we got. This film needs to be about Jack, Fontaine, Ryan, and Atlas.
They don't need to tell the exact same story with the exact same characters since that can make it redundant but they could at least stick to the premise enough for it to still feel like a legitimate adaptation of the franchise & not just an attempt at riding coattails. This is Netflix though. We all know how it's probably gonna go. Hell, no one has made remotely decent Bioshock thing of any kind since the first game. It's all just been coattail riding even when Ken Levine was involved.
Just keep your hopes low, its of they botch it. I dont’t think Bioshock will ever get out of the closet again tbh... So lets try not to overdo it and come out disappointed...
How about we not make it like the game ang go back to raptures early life woth the discovery if ADAM. creation ofbthe Big Daddys and Little Sisters. Everything before the fall
Would it be bad because it's gay? No. well yes but not because it's gay. But would it be good even if it wasn't? Yes. Don't try to make the movie woke. Is all I can say to the people working on the script. The games are amazing and their story is simple. Funnily enough for those who still remember bioshock 1's doctor who went thru and changed surgery to include gender surgery... Plot twist am I right? It would feel normal to have something but there's no need for representation. Bioshock was built on the concept of 'a free man' and in all 3 games the main character is never truly a free man. They just need to remember that much. They need to focus on the story of bioshock more than the way it's built up... Because even if they copy paste the entire story word for word and literally have the silent main character follow atlas's commands thru the whole show? It would be great. Hopefully they don't mess it up. Its like a god handed the script wrighters the whole script and told them to record it. Its seriously hard to mess it up... Which if they do... Just don't mess it up.
it's netflix... the majority of the content they make is garbage, this is just wishful thinking. sucks too because this means another studio probably wont even attempt for another decade so itll be a waste of a movie.
"groundbreaking levels of freedom in how you want to play the game"...? No. I wanted to play the game NOT using any plasmids. The game did not allow me to do this. I would have forgiven it if "would you kindly" was part of the reason for that, but after I finished the game I had a look, and no - it is not part of the reason for that (alas). The game simply forces you to install plasmids for no good in-game reason. Also, I believe the "Would you kindly" twist wouldn't resonate will with a film audience, because film is a passive medium, whereas games are an active medium.
Early in the game you must pick up electro bolt in order to open a door that requires a shock to open (this without being told would you kindly inject plasmids directly) and I don't believe these is any other way to open that door without the electro bolt. My first playthrough, I wanted to complete the game without ever injecting plasmids, and that isn't possible to my knowledge. I'd be fine with this if and only if would you kindly was used to make me inject my first plasmids, but alas, it isn't.
@@tehjass no, it isn't. It doesn't need to be for you to have a higher level of "freedom" that's where I mean your comment doesn't make sense, because the arbitrary "freedom" you wanted of not being taught about game mechanics doesn't invalidate his point. Next I suppose you'll say the game limited player freedom by forcing you to pick up the wrench, or the pistol
@@davecolumbopeople seem to have little to no faith in Netflix where adaptations are concerned. They'd prefer if literally any other studio picked up Bioshock
Netflix as it is will obliterate the story by making it childish and characters gay/trans/black because propaganda they are trying to push. I hope Ken Levine will be in charge to prevent this woke disaster. I started watching Sandman and quit mid season for obvious reasons.
Dear Hollywood, Would You Kindly come up with an Original Idea instead of copy-paste someone else's IP? A PROVEN failure of adapting Games to Movies isn't enough to make you stop and think? $200 million dollars is "Meh, not my money." You can still tell a story of Classism and Racist Undertones with your own thoughts and IMAGINATION. Lazy, just fkn LAZY.
The hardest part will be making so called "Bioshock fans" face the fact that the game they love and die for, without guns and powers is just a huge criticism on unhinged capitalism, but since its the word of the decade, people will scream they made Bioshock "woke"
If Netflix doesn’t pander and the writer/director stays true to the source material, this could be great. You can bet they’re gonna gender and race swap something. I’m out if they do.
My Dream Director for a Bioshock film would be Guillermo Del Toro.
Watch the beginning scene of Shape of Water and tell me it doesn't look like Rapture.
GREAT choice
yes! that would be an amazing idea!
Del Toro would be good to make the Splicers costumes. Just take a look at the demons in the Hellboy movies, they almost SCREAM Splicers. I don't think he'd be a good idea for bringing Big Daddies to life though. Maybe leave that to Zach Snyder (in the same vein as Sucker Punch) or something.
I want a TV series based around the Rapture novel and Bill Mcdonagh
100% agree. You can never fully understand Rapture unless you see it from its conception to its fall. And it works the best through Bill's eyes.
Yes, it NEEDS to be rated R, it NEEDS to be violent and gory as it is a part of what makes the games what they are
“A city where the artist would not fear the censor”-Andrew Ryan, 1960
@@DanicaOfficialYt Exactly
This topic about the bioshock movie situation is the definition of that quote-
Main problem with adapting this game: people familiar with it already know the two big twists. This isn't insurmountable. Captain America: The Winter Soldier remains Marvel's best solo film despite most comic fans knowing the twist, because the film added new twists. A Bioshock film would need to do the same. But I can't imagine what that new twist would be.
Agreed. I like the way comic book movies offer a slight variation or additional hook for people who think they know the source material. Honestly though? Even if it is just the twist from the games, it would be worth it to me Just to watch a whole audience experience it that never would have bothered to play the games. AKA, I'd love my wife to suddenly love the franchise and I can tell her I liked it before it was cool :)
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I think we should have an aftermath of Bioshock two (a city in ruin) with flash backs of masquerades and story behind it, then at the end we find out Andrew Ryan is still alive like the whole Fontaine atlas thing and hes been narrating. Then it shows him drawing up new plans??!!
I consider the twists the least important part of the Bioshock story. I think the most important part is the setting, the atmosphere, the unfolding tale of Raptures's fall as we make our way through it's still twitching corpse.
@@Commanderziff Couldn't have said it better myself 👏
Quoting Bioshock lines without context, I really felt that.
The hardest part will probably trying to get the bouncer big Daddy actor to be able to see in the suit
I'm still really blown away by there being actually fans of Bioshock still out there. I adore these games immensely and BRAVO to any soul out there who actually knows a hair about the perfect DLC Gem called Minerva's Den. The points here are so on the mark, I don't you could have made a better list. Rapture remains that perfect game environment where you can all a decaying city, old timey music, ghosts, some bits of haunted beauty and it all just works. As you said yourself, anyone out there would KILL to have all of this already when they start crafting up a film.
Whether anything happens with Bioshock is always that, "time will tell," mentality. But credit to you making such a genuinely perfect video to note the good/bad/notable when it comes to making a film that can work and hit the ground. Also, thank you endlessly on mentioning about needing to focus on the movie itself and not the 1000x projects that "could" come despite the movie being still made. *shudders in thought about the Universal Studios Monster Universe*
PS - The videos seriously needs a ton more praise. From an old Bioshock fan, keep on keeping being the one that chooses the impossible. *Electro-Bolt high fives*
I’m curious with blade runner 2049 being a prequel if the writer for Bioshock will take a similar approach. Where it’s a lead up to Bioshock one
I hope not. I think the best way to go is tell the Bioshock 1 story, do it right, get us invested, build a brand with a great first story... THEN they can go and tell the story of how things came to be or tell parallel adventures. If they try to do a prequel first and it's not good, no one will care about it and they wont even get to the point where they can make the stories from the games, which would be a shame
Though I still think the novel Bioshock: Rapture was an amazing read telling the origin story of Ryan, Rapture, and the collapse, I agree that the audience first needs to be engulfed by the storyline from Bioshock 1...but the book also had so much detail of mystery and thrilling twists that it needs to be a movie. Especially the detail of Fontaine and how he came to be an integral player in Rapture's demise
@@madcadder2197 Agreed.
what? blade runner 2049 is not a prequel
@@davecolumbo6 months late the problem with that is that Jack doesn’t talk. Making an adaptation of the first game(which they’re doing) will ultimately be a disaster since again Jack doesn’t talk and the whole game is built around player choice!!
Too bad Vincent price can't play Andrew Ryan . Rip great legend
I hated the dystopian genre until I played Bioshock. For me, it got everything right. What I loved the most about it was that it was fair to the subject it was criticizing. You hear Ryan's opening monologed and immediately you can see the dream behind the dystopia. Any pieces of work that gets to understand the tyrannical business millionaire is doing something extraordinary.
Great point. I love ehe complexity for the viewer to hear Ryan's monologue but also see the results of his folly, it's not a basic "WE WANT YOU TO FEEL THIS WAY" narrative and more a nuanced story unfolding. Right from the get go I was like "THIS IS GOING TO BE SPECIAL"
outstanding video, i would love to see more work from you with this editing and script format
Super video man. Funny. Great points. Doesn’t drag and waffle. Bioshock. Keep up the good work, I don’t know how this doesn’t have more views
Hahah I get that alot. Thank you. Still working on building the channel!
That Bioshock shirt looks so cool! Also I agree about your view on Bioshock Infinite.
This is exactly perfect, I hope they see this.
Thank you! Currently working on a part 2
i loved this so much. good video, keep it up.
Really cool video, agree with all of your points. I was obsessed with the franchise as it came out and was never able to play it as a kid. Then about 5 years ago I managed to play all of the games. I especially enjoyed the part where you highlight the possibilities that come with this movie, the atmosphere is so rich and full, it literally screams for professional make up, costumes, right lightning choices and especially scoring.
Really looking forward to it, hope they don't mess it up.
"Singing rust buckets" took me out lmfao- i loved that
I feel like if this is will happen, the costume team for the movie should take inspiration from ww1 face surgeries, like what they did for the first game
I'll argue that if it's adapting the first game they should probably give Jack a companion or two. I feel like following one person and rarely seeing the other main characters might not translate well to a movie. My suggestion is Johnny (The guy killed at the start) stays around for a bit longer before Atlas tags along with our hero in person. Halfway through Tenenbaum replaces Atlas as Jack's primary companion like she does over the radio in the game. Other things I'd include would be flashbacks taken from the Rapture novel and the characters listening to diaries much like the source material. As unthinkable as it sounds I think giving Jack an actual personality is probably the hardest thing when it comes to making this work as pure viewing experience. A silent protagonist doesn't cut in in a movie like this. I'd double down on him being an "average joe" caught up in this chaos. He'll try talking first before resorting to violence and is surprised he's so skilled at combat. All he really wants is to just return to his family on the surface and be done with it, telling stories of his parents and cousins to his companions and why they're so important to him. The inevitable reveal shatters him and would need some serious talking to in order to get back on track. Jack would be at first scared and a bit whiney. He become a bit cocky after getting more guns and plasmids but is then humbled by the twist, turning into a man who just wants freedom. Preferably this follows the "good" path and Jack will rescue and feel kinship with the Little Sisters. Maybe have a splicer harvest one as warning to Jack that Rapture is truly rotten.
It takes great challenge to adapt a shooting game into a movie, Doom had every reason to be great yet bombed horribly.
You make some amazing points and I hope they do them. Even though I’m sceptical I’m confident Netflix’s unsubtle politics won’t clash with Bioshock’s creative and engaging commentary/politics.
Part of me would love to see a multi-season series that adapted the book Bioshock: Rapture; where it told the story of key figures within Rapture, the building and fall of the city and planting the seeds of the 1st game's story. It's like they took the stories posed by the audio diaries from the games and expanded on them to make a prequel that would answer the questions that weren't answered in the game.
I personally think that JT music should do some of the soundtrack considering he made songs for both bioshock 1+2 and bioshock Infinet!
Like how TeamHeadKick had the deadpool song for the DP movie!
I hope this movie is well made, I was sad to hear the results of when the first one was gonna be made, and I hope this one blows us away as much as our first trip to Rapture does. I still get chills when I see Rapture despite the fact I've played the game more than once. I mean, it's crazy that the setting of a game less grounded in reality (or many it's more grounded than we think) makes me feel more like I'm there than the more realistic setting of Night City from Cyberpunk 2077, that city does feel empty and lacking. I still love Cyberpunk 2077, but if I had to pick a game that makes me feel like I'm really there, it's Bioshock, the first one to be more Specific
It also would help if the writers and directors learn from the source material. Which no one seems to do nowadays. Isn't that right, Paramount's Halo, Black Widow, Thor: Love and Thunder, etc?
If they nail this movie, I'm going to be thrilled! Now, the only other game-related movie that still needs to come to light is American McGee's Alice. After these two (as long as they are excellent), I can die happy.
I just started playing bioshock , I’ve always wanted to play it but never got around to it , now that I’m playing it , I love everything about it ! I’m kinda upset at myself for not playing it many years ago when it came out ! Lol ! But at a time when we are lacking in great games , I’m really enjoying this game and plan on playing all of them all the way through !
I think a bioshock mini series would be better
(Crosses fingers) Pleasebegood.
Pleasebegood. Pleasebegood...
Such a well done video!
They'll fuck it up. Netflix fucks EVERYTHING up; they focus on all the wrong things. The sets will look perfect, background will be filled with visually accurate details and easter eggs to say "LOOK WE'RE SOOO FAITHFUL" while the plot is mangled, lore completely changed, and characters woefully miscast or drastically and unrecognizeably changed. And the pacing will be absolutely godawful. Netflix shows are not designed to be GOOD, they're designed to keep you binge watching. They have no concept of pacing or narrative flow, they just feel like all of the narrative peaks and valleys got put into a blender, made into a homogeneous goo, squeezed out of a tube, and chopped into evenly timed chunks. You can't even call them "episodes".
I know how they can make sure Bioshock is great: don’t do it, let hbo do it with a team of talented people and a big ass budget for sets
They better land the hell out of the intro and keep it very ominous
Sorry I found this vid so late. Playing through the series again right now - I've known about this adaptation for a while. Still think it should be a limited 6-10 episode series and it should split time between laying the foundational backstory along with a current event story around the events of the first game. Jamming some kind of self-contained narrative around this rich world into a 1.5 to 2.5 hour project is just a recipe for shortchanging it...not to mention alienate any fresh viewers with no knowledge of what's going on in the games. As a gamer, maybe I can just enjoy the gameplay and not worry about everything behind the story (much of which you probably won't fully wrap your head around without multiple playthroughs), but as a viewer of a movie or program, I need something that pulls me into the world. Without the tangible interactivity of the game, this will need to have some foundational hook to ground the people new to Bioshock into this universe. Otherwise, it's destined to be a niche body horror oddity that won't satisfy fans of the games or anyone with no background in them.
You may be right. I know personally for me though, I've seen far more movies that nail an aesthetic than I have seen TV shows that do the same. Even expensive high end TV shows I feel like I can see the set, see the effects, and the padding a lot of shows do to extend things unnecessarily. I just think a good solid 2 hour movie that is self contained could make audiences beg for more, and then you can expand. So many of the best franchises of all time started with one standalone movie that teased a bigger world.
Off topic whsts the outro song
I’m honestly really worried for it. My expectations aren’t that high. Honestly it feels like the writers from Prime could make a much greater adaptation into a well.. show.
Honestly I think it should be a show and since we know the story of Bioshock one and two are a separate universe from Infinite (the lighthouses) I would make the story a combination of all 3 things but still set in rapture. Instead of starting with Jack on the plane start with Andre Rianofski (Andrew Ryan) from fleeing his home country with his father as a child coming to America as an adult starting and losing his industry to the construction of Rapture the city at its peak and then its fall kind of like The Aviator if anyones ever scene that.
I can't believe I'm saying it, but Bioshock might be the ONE series that I'd be okay with Tim Burton directing. As long as Gulemlo del Toro is put in charge of costumes/character designs.
Oooooooooo I never thought of that. What a fabulous idea
A bioshock film needs to have elements of die hard and aliens in it to capture the great atmosphere if the games.
I don’t ever want to hear Netflix and BioShock in the same sentence again
Brilliant points!
You sir have just come across my recommended videos I think that's because I too I'm currently streaming bioshock I got a good deal on bioshock bioshock 2 and bioshock infinite So I'm actually streaming the first one twice a week and then I'll move on to the next one and then the final one I must ask since you were so fascinated with bioshock what are your feelings on them coming out with bioshock 4 I heard it's been in the making for some time now and it's supposed to be an open world what are your opinions on that And what do you hope to see in this open world if it does become a thing
This game is great, soo good makes me want to play it over and over again. Do find bioshock 2 a lot harder to play tho on a walkthrough.
All it has to do is to follow the games philosophy of not treating the player like a complete troglodite & explore tough interesting questions not only about humanity at large but the people playing the game themselfs by giving choices..
Totaly easy peasy & simple to convert into movie form
I can kinda see your vision for how the movie should be and I hope they do make the movie that way, even though I've yet to play all 3 games.
I do, however, think that we as the audience should create and encourage filmmakers to use a list of practices, techniques and story beats we actually enjoy. Not all the time, but at least some of them, some of the time. Stuff like:
-Practical effects form the minor stuff that's expensive to do in CG and looks shit.
-Creating new characters instead of gender or race-swapping existing ones
-No fast-cutting for every fight!
That's all that comes to mind right now.
I really REALLY love those games.ive played all of them and can't wait for the next one,and I've been really wanting this game to be turned into a horror movie and I believe that it will be a GOOD one
I feel like they just need to tell the story of raptures rise and fall. That would transfer the best to screen. You can still hide that Fontaine didn’t actually die so you can keep the Atlas reveal.
"There's always a lighthouse, there's always a man, there's always a city." They could create a movie that has nothing to do with the original Bioshock universe or the Colombia universe.
JT Music would be a great choice for the soundtrack. Just listen to some of their bioshock songs
Short answer : No
Long answer: NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
The second you said 2007 I felt another grey hair appear on my head.
I like bioshock. The R rated movies bit was pretty funny. Good video.
I hope the protagonist is Jack and not a random dude/woman who's name is different, I know Jack doesn't talk, but you can give him a personality and also make him react to everything in his path
I honestly dont know how they could adapt the game into the movie. The better story for a movie would probably be about the beginning, rise and fall of rapture.
Can’t believe you didn’t like infinite? It did pull the others together and show how they were connected and left you with questions on who’s who in each game with tons of possibilities. I’ve played all of them multiple times including the DLC and I’m a huge collector but like I said infinite was the one where the story really blew me away. The thing with different protagonist, well it shows how each place handled the drugs differently but showed how each failed.
I’d love if the director of the great gatsby had some input for set design and cinematic side of it . A cure for wellness did a pretty decent job with picking up after the cancelled Bioshock movie and gave an idea on how it should be.
wait they making a bioshock movie?
I believe it will work cause of the written and the director cause Francis Lawrence made Constantine i am legend red sparrow slumberland water for elephants visually stunning and also some horror and as for the writer who wrote murder on the orient express Logan blade runner 2049 and alien covenant with this we have a visionary director with dark but stylish films and a writer that has wrote some deep interesting and outstanding films and a horror with the new film a haunting in Venice they are a good choice and they are sticking more to the game this will be an arcane or cup head or Witcher season 1 as the best Netflix is bad at making anime but games they have proven they can do it right
Como fã de Bioschok . . .
estou com um pouco de medo desse filme . . .
de virar outro filme com CGI e roteiro shit :(
I think a movie focusing on one central character (Jack) that stares into the darkness and picks up and listens to audiotapes occasionally would be pretty boring. The plot needs to be interesting, needs to go somewhere, and needs to have something to say. The game has actually a well lot to say, even if you take away Jack, all the gameplay, and even the plot twist (which pretty much all the people going to watch the movie probably know by now). I would really love however, if the movie would focus on the Fontaine/Ryan feud (since both have layered, interesting personalities), the smuggling operation, Ryan's punishments, with characters like Diane, Jasmine, Sander Cohen, or even dr Steinman getting more and more crazier. The utiopia turns into dystopia amidst a fast spreading addiction to Adam (it would also be interesting, if it turned out, Adam users only THINK they have superpowers), and we would see how a society built on an originally promising philosophy (objectivism) collapses, leading to the unavoidable destruction of the underwater city. That would be more thought provoking than wacthing a gamer pleasing lenghty fight where a big daddy going up in flames drills through a dozen splicers brutally. For the latter entertainment, just play the game? 🤷
The only way Netflix can make a good BioShock movie, is if they have the insight of mind to hand it off to someone else to do.
I think the only thing that make this film/series work, is making Ken Levine and Paul Hellquist (and the rest of the lead workers, sorry i don't remember much people form irracional Games) be in the team of work and be the consultors for EVERYTHING.
The last of us work basically for have the creators supervising the production.
I image the reaction of producers: What? Consulting the creators made the show it mades work? HOW!!!!????
P.D: Sorry for my bad english
make it like the audiobook Bioshock Rapture and that's it
My ideal actor for Ryan would probably be Max von Sydow. (Too bad he's dead 😔)
If you love this game that much u should try we the happy few not as good but I'd say its very bioshock esk
i feel like they cant make a more than average adaptation because of the best scene in the game is unadaptable in movie-tv format.
the adaptation will end up being "ooh look at thing from game i understood that reference" like everything is nowadays
Because you said bangarang you got a subscribe from me 👍🏼
We should collect signatures so that Netflix could not make this adaptation (.)
if the director watches this i think they've got a good shot
The movie should be based on the book
Maybe if it’s animated
The issue here is: Netflix is adapting it.
WHY CANT IT BE HBO??????
I actually didn’t mind sandman, the last few episodes were meh though.
I can see them using Witcher eye contacts for the little sisters :/
Why not animate it? The Bioshock 2 trailer already super good imo
Netflix never finishes anything they do. I don't trust them to make anything good...
What are your thoughts on the Avatar trailer? Looks... GOOD?
@@davecolumbo I just watched the trailer. I think it looks good. But. Netflix always makes their trailers and shit look good. Idk I hope they don't rush through the story just to have a some what complete show
wtf is that AI generated big daddy in the thumbnail??!
Do you know who I really want in the BioShock movie Big Daddy?
Remember death note live action
Prediction: They will botch it badly.
Netflix? Good Films? LoL. ^^
The thing I hate most about videogame adaptations is the filmmakers’ insistence on “doing their own story” instead of faithfully adapting the story from the game that everyone fell in love with. I wanted a Resident Evil film set in the Spencer Mansion with Jill and Chris. Not whatever it was we got. This film needs to be about Jack, Fontaine, Ryan, and Atlas.
They don't need to tell the exact same story with the exact same characters since that can make it redundant but they could at least stick to the premise enough for it to still feel like a legitimate adaptation of the franchise & not just an attempt at riding coattails. This is Netflix though. We all know how it's probably gonna go.
Hell, no one has made remotely decent Bioshock thing of any kind since the first game. It's all just been coattail riding even when Ken Levine was involved.
bioshock 1 had good story, bioshock 2 had interesting gameplay. they are equal.
Just keep your hopes low, its of they botch it. I dont’t think Bioshock will ever get out of the closet again tbh...
So lets try not to overdo it and come out disappointed...
How about we not make it like the game ang go back to raptures early life woth the discovery if ADAM. creation ofbthe Big Daddys and Little Sisters. Everything before the fall
Would it be bad because it's gay? No. well yes but not because it's gay. But would it be good even if it wasn't? Yes. Don't try to make the movie woke. Is all I can say to the people working on the script.
The games are amazing and their story is simple. Funnily enough for those who still remember bioshock 1's doctor who went thru and changed surgery to include gender surgery... Plot twist am I right? It would feel normal to have something but there's no need for representation. Bioshock was built on the concept of 'a free man' and in all 3 games the main character is never truly a free man. They just need to remember that much. They need to focus on the story of bioshock more than the way it's built up... Because even if they copy paste the entire story word for word and literally have the silent main character follow atlas's commands thru the whole show? It would be great. Hopefully they don't mess it up.
Its like a god handed the script wrighters the whole script and told them to record it. Its seriously hard to mess it up... Which if they do... Just don't mess it up.
You can guarantee it's going to suck. That's the name of the game nowadays
i rather appletv make it, why must netflix destroy everything?
it's netflix... the majority of the content they make is garbage, this is just wishful thinking.
sucks too because this means another studio probably wont even attempt for another decade so itll be a waste of a movie.
I agree. Waited years just for netflix to take it and ruin its first chance of being good and now we'll wait probably another 20 years
"groundbreaking levels of freedom in how you want to play the game"...? No. I wanted to play the game NOT using any plasmids. The game did not allow me to do this. I would have forgiven it if "would you kindly" was part of the reason for that, but after I finished the game I had a look, and no - it is not part of the reason for that (alas). The game simply forces you to install plasmids for no good in-game reason. Also, I believe the "Would you kindly" twist wouldn't resonate will with a film audience, because film is a passive medium, whereas games are an active medium.
You can still play the game without using plasmids, you have plenty of other weapons to use instead. Your comment makes no sense
Early in the game you must pick up electro bolt in order to open a door that requires a shock to open (this without being told would you kindly inject plasmids directly) and I don't believe these is any other way to open that door without the electro bolt. My first playthrough, I wanted to complete the game without ever injecting plasmids, and that isn't possible to my knowledge. I'd be fine with this if and only if would you kindly was used to make me inject my first plasmids, but alas, it isn't.
@@tehjass no, it isn't. It doesn't need to be for you to have a higher level of "freedom" that's where I mean your comment doesn't make sense, because the arbitrary "freedom" you wanted of not being taught about game mechanics doesn't invalidate his point.
Next I suppose you'll say the game limited player freedom by forcing you to pick up the wrench, or the pistol
Nah, leave netflix out of this.
What... does that mean?
@@davecolumbopeople seem to have little to no faith in Netflix where adaptations are concerned. They'd prefer if literally any other studio picked up Bioshock
Netflix cannot make good films nor series. Period.
Netflix as it is will obliterate the story by making it childish and characters gay/trans/black because propaganda they are trying to push. I hope Ken Levine will be in charge to prevent this woke disaster. I started watching Sandman and quit mid season for obvious reasons.
Yeah because if there is ONE thing Bioshock avoided, it was politics 🧐
“Propaganda? The whole fuckin story political propaganda” Literally one of the most memorable characters in the first game is a fruitcake
you losers can't enjoy any media because you're scared of minorities LMAOOO
@davecolumbo way to be an idiot and reductive. Grow up
Have you even played bioshock😭
Dear Hollywood,
Would You Kindly come up with an Original Idea instead of copy-paste someone else's IP?
A PROVEN failure of adapting Games to Movies isn't enough to make you stop and think? $200 million dollars is "Meh, not my money."
You can still tell a story of Classism and Racist Undertones with your own thoughts and IMAGINATION. Lazy, just fkn LAZY.
The hardest part will be making so called "Bioshock fans" face the fact that the game they love and die for, without guns and powers is just a huge criticism on unhinged capitalism, but since its the word of the decade, people will scream they made Bioshock "woke"
If Netflix doesn’t pander and the writer/director stays true to the source material, this could be great. You can bet they’re gonna gender and race swap something. I’m out if they do.
Agree. Knowing its by netflix is kind of a turn off for me already
Can’t wait for them to make Jack a woman and the little sisters will be so strong and independent they don’t need no Big Daddy
You know they're going to butcher it
Ugh it'll be ass. Netflix is ass.
To each there own but had to stop watching after you dissed infinite. Its Bioshock through and through; constants and variables my friend.
Biowoke
What...?
@@davecolumbo Netflix would absolutely destroy Bioshock... there's always the option to ignore it, but it'd p!$$ me off anyway.