PUT IN A WHEELIE BIN - Michael Hamer - The Murder of Joe Geeling
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- Опубліковано 1 тра 2021
- 14 year old Michael Hamer enticed 11 year old cystic fibrosis sufferer Joe Geeling to his house where he brutally murdered him. Hamer put his body into a wheelie bin and dumped in the local park. Join Emma Kenny where she takes a look at the story behind this horrific murder. This happened in Emma’s hometown and only 5 minutes from her house which means she will take you on a very personal joinery in this weeks episode.
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I was sexually abused by another child when I was a child, and I never really hear people talk about child on child abuse, so hearing you talk about that, is really appreciated. It’s really affected my life in many ways, and still does, as a 23 year old man. I’m hopefully starting therapy soon.
I don’t ever want to put my pain on anyone else in terms of the abused becoming the abuser.
Thank you for talking about these topics, it means a lot to so many people who experience any kind of abuse, I’m sure. Thank you so much, Emma for giving abused/murdered children a voice ❤️
All the best doing therapy pal best thing i ever did your not alone take care trust me i feel ya pain and many others. Pedos especially should be put in a big hole and blown up to bits my opinion. Sorry if offended anyone but their all dirty horrid monsters. Take care.
Thanks for bringing yourself into the story. We must have these conversations and I appreciate your honesty xx
Happened to my friend (also a male) as well.
yes, it need to be talked about more. Sorry you went through all that. I am glad you mentioned it, awareness is helpful.
@@Anonymous-54545 thanks, we must raise awareness. The media seems to think all kids are angels, but real life isn't always like that.
Hi! I was Joe’s friend at school, we were always sat together in classes because it was alphabetical. A few points, Michael had a list of all year 7’s and he picked what he deemed the weakest apparently. I was on his list. He also tried to burn joe’s body before he dumped it but failed. Joe was the funniest and nicest soul. I remember once in maths he bit through his pen during a test and his mouth filled with ink and we were laughing so much about it. Mrs foley was off for months after he died because she felt guilty and couldn’t cope. I saw him with the letter, he never should have gone. Michael was friends with my best friend at the times brother and he seemed normal. Not popular, but from what I saw not an outcast but again I didn’t know him very well. Joe has a memorial at Gabriel’s with a motorbike statue as he loved motorbikes. His funeral procession came through our school and we all let balloons off. He didn’t deserve any of this, Michael needs to remain in prison.
❤❤ Hey I didn’t know about the motorbike memorial but I love this! I knew Joe too, our dads were friends and we used to go on days out on the bikes with our dads together. The balloons were such a beautiful tribute from St Gab’s on such a sad day 💙. I hope you’re doing well. X
Why do you think he sent one of your CHILDREN the box?! Seems like an “I know where you live” kind of thing. 😡😢
I love the balance of the psychology and humanity! I have seen you on crime shows but being able to see your feelings along with the analysis, is unlike anything else in the true crime genre.
Emma brings a unique combination of professional credentials, personal experience and her own compassion to her true crime reporting. It is tragic irony that she will evidently never run out of material to report and analyze.
Great to see her this way.... Emma is actually really funny, she'd be a good actress
I totally agree xx
RIP little Joe, you are forever loved. Loving your videos Emma, your an eloquent speaker and so knowledgeable. I really appreciate all the hard work you do. 💕
Not sure if you guys cares but if you guys are stoned like me atm you can stream pretty much all of the new series on Instaflixxer. I've been streaming with my brother lately xD
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These are the cases that bother me most, that poor child already had so much to deal with, and this monster killed him. Utterly dispicable
Exactly 😭😭😭🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽
I used to see you on true crime docs
I was absolutely ecstatic to find out you do true crime episodes. I feel you did Joe's story justice. Thank you!
If my son said he had vomited blood - I would be taking him straight to A&E not cleaning it up 🤔 Such a heartbreaking case. RIP darling angel 👼
"ah yes, I'll clean up the *blood* on this rug instead of calling 911"
My father walked out on my mother when she was pregnant with me and even though he has always lived in the same town as us he has never acknowledged me or tried to see me or anything so hearing you go off on fathers who leave their kids was actually really cathartic for me 💖
I made a point of remembering this case for the rest of my days when it happened. I live in a neighbouring town & worked in Bury.
I've paused the video at 18 minutes, I'm not sure if I can watch further. My son was the same age as Joe, fresh to secondary school, still finding his feet amongst all the 'big' kids, weighed down by books & bags, wearing what seemed like a giant blazer.
I remember the day Joe was found. I remember it was dark & cold and had begun to snow that evening. I lay on my bed & felt devastated for his family, I felt so upset that he probably would have loved the snow. I felt so upset that he was outside in the freezing cold. The atmosphere across the town was sombre, dark & shocked.
This case was so relatable as a mum, in later years, as I worked in Children's Homes&schools in the area, it became 'real' that potential perpetrators & victims are OUR children every day - my mind explodes at this, I don't want to accept it. I don't work in that field anymore, I can't advocate for potential perpetrators (& lack of professional services) I know that won't sit well.
Joe&his loving family will always be in our thoughts.
And yes Emma, I'M SICK OF SH**** PARENTS TOO! Stop ruining your children's lives!!!
One of the realest true crime videos i've seen in a while. You being affected by this murder personally and showing us the places where it all took place made it come terrifyingly close for us as well. Thanks for sharing this story and may Joe rest in peace.
As a bury girl who went to Bury church and went in the sweet shop on haslam brow and hung out on the monkey bridge rather than doing cross country lol this is so close to home. You did this case justice. We are all proud of you. Thank you for doing this for joe. Remember this like it was yesterday it broke us all as a community. Rest in peace Joe x x x
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i went to this high school from yr7-yr9 😓
Oh my gosh the monkey bridge!!!
People with CF often don't live much past 20 years of age. It's so sad that he wasn't expected to live long anyway and he was taken away from them at 11. How terribly sad.😥
You never know he could beat the odds
Thankfully, with recent medical developments the age expectancy is now 46, with half of all people with CF living to 48 +
@@suemargaret9032 well thats wonderful news Sue!! I know a family here who lost 3 of their children at 20 and late teens. I'm sure they are heartbroken to learn that their kids could have lived had they been born a decade later 😥
Irk let’s do happen sometimes with people born with CF. My friend lost her battle with CF early this year, she was a primary school teacher … just shy of her 50th birthday. She fought an incredible battle the past 10 years with her new lungs and dedicated her book “ Balloons” to her donor … she had the most amazing soul, always putting others before herself, as ill as she was, she never complained.
Rip sweet Leanne 💜
Can really feel your pain telling this story Emma. This monster should never ever walk the streets freely again. Even most adult killers wouldn’t have been so calm as to how he hide poor Joe’s body. He will have grown into a more dangerous killer with all the therapy which is completely wasted on him. Sending love and prayers to Joe’s family ❤️
So sad for that poor little boy a baby really. Cannot comprehend that a 14 year old can have that level of destruction in their heart. No not heart in their psyche. Joe was a little fighter. May he RIP. Thank you Emma we can see how this affected you,X
I could listen to you talk all day. Actually, I have listened to you talk all day 🤪 You're a bad ass. Keep it up ❤
I'll listen to these intently the first time. Once I've properly listened, I'll often have them on in the background while I'm busy/driving/cleaning.
Emma doesn't have Patreon or a chance to buy a coffee and I feel like I'm giving back, even if I'm feeding the algorithms!
We all love Emma but I couldn't listen to any woman all day 😂😂😂😂😂😂
@@betlea8070 me too!!
She blummin has Later on now! She says it.makes.a "huge" difference in her prpfessional, celebrity life...knock yourself out!!😆
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Emma seems so raw here and so close to this situation, this video just hits different.
Thank you, Emma for taking the time to go back to this and discuss it for us. This is quite a little known case and the exposure here could potentially do volumes.
And everything you said hits home with me... yes, at 11 in Year 8 I looked at the 16-18 year-old Sixth Form students and thought "Wow, men and women at SCHOOL!" I saw how they got on with teachers and longed for it. But at 29 now I'm like.... "I knew nothing at 18."
Hindsight is incredible.
I had to pause for thought after this episode ended. I feel the need to remember Joe for a moment, acknowledge his strength and character. Then get back to living my normal everyday life. Thank you Emm Kenny, very informative.
He was an amazing friend always had me laughing in school
When that teacher said “go straight home” what she should’ve done is contact his parents to come and pick him up and explained why.
Yes, as having taught children myself I would have seen this as a potential safeguarding issue and would have taken the letter with him to the Head and informed the parents. I think they should've taken that extra step and not put the onus on the child to deal with it by telling him to go straight home and seeing the teacher who it was claimed to have been from.
As joe was my friend that still annoys me to this day they didn’t care I had to leave that school because of this
I do believe Emma explained those same thoughts, but then explained the fire alarm went off thus distracting everyone
Hindsight is a wonderful thing. The teacher gave sound advise. You don’t also think at the time though that a young lad would murder another.
I agree as children usually do the opposite of what they are told.
Having a professional analysis of these cases are absolutely amazing. This one was particularly interesting because of how close this was to Emma. Its always intersting to see how professionals deal with personal issues on a case, but still be able to remain composed and offer a logical rather than overly emotional examination. And still manage to show the compassion and empathy for the victim. Compartmentalisation is not always an easy thing to do.
Wonderful videos and content. Keep up the fantastic work 😃
The vibe to this video is so different to your other videos and for absolutely extraordinary reasons , it took something extra for you to cover this case , Emma and you’ve done it justice. Thanks for covering this x
I was in School with Hamer since I was 5, sat next to him in class, talked with him many times over the years, he wasn’t a bad kid, but terribly imbalanced and horribly bullied.
It’s one of those unfortunate situations where there’s just so many issues coming together to produce that result.
I can’t be mad at him, it was an awful environment for children like him who didn’t fit in anywhere and were ostracised at every turn.
It was a Roman Catholic High school and we should remember to have compassion for all people, its easy to have compassion for Joe as the victim of this crime, but it hard to go deep within and find compassion for those who do wrong, but that is what is asked of us.
I cant understand why bullies are not fucked out immediately..I'm from Ireland but remember this very well because I guy I grew up with looked exactly like Michael
I went to both Primary and High School with Michael Hamer. The whole thing was absolutely awful. I remember it like it was yesterday.. RIP Joe❤️
Me too everyday the school so quiet the whole morning the questions that everyone was saying the answers the heartbreak he cause 😢you never get over it
What was he like? I heard he got bullied a lot but what was your impression of him other wise
@@markusjohnson6558 he should have got more than bullied
@@a-a-a-g-h I mean yeah lol but I think they’re asking if he got bullied before he killed or anyone knew he could kill?
@@a-a-a-g-h if he wasn't picked on maybe this wouldn't happen
My son has asked me “don’t you trust me?” when I’ve insisted in knowing who and where he is with “I’m with my friends”
My answer: yes, I trust you, I don’t trust anyone else... I don’t know your friends enough to fully trust who they are..
So the solution is to raise him under a crystal bell ? I think people who are already very mistrusting shouldn’t watch these videos as it makes them even more terrified of others.
@@salvolondon I didn’t say I was terrified of others and neither are my children but I am cautious about what situations they are in. I will always think it’s important to know where and who my children are with while they’re minors. I work in child protection and am already very much aware of what humans can be capable of.
@@salvolondon wanting to know where someone you love is and who they are with isn't a crystal bell automatically. There are healthy ways to have a safety barrier.
My mother is an example of an intrusive, must know everything mother. I absolutely have dealt with complete invasion of privacy. She would dig in and demand every tiny bit of information and even make me hand my phone over sometimes to check I wasn't lying. (and for the record, neither my sister were troublemakers, so it wasn't a warranted worry from her). She would also check in throughout.
But now, I'm married and my husband does the same. But he leaves it at that, just safety info. And that's a positive thing. That should be common practice. "hey I'm going out" "oh, where?" "to (persons) house".
I do the same to him. I do the same when my parents are doing things with my kids. Basic info is acceptable. Digging in and disrespecting boundaries, not so much.
well said, you never know you your kids mix with. Some kids are easily led and there is a culture that binge drinking a lot, vandalising, doing drugs is 'cool'. My relative was 18, mixed with a bad group on charity trip of all things, and took drugs and came back from his holiday in a body bag on the plane which his parents had to deal with. He had left public school and had his whole life ahead. When I was 18 I was very conscious of mixing with bad company and I was not afraid to have nothing to do with them. I was also very lucky in someway that I was in a rural location and meeting friends on a regular basis was quite hard as I had no transport. Fortunately I was into horse riding so I was very happy with my friends with horses and all this drug taking, boozing was far too boring for me, when I had my beautiful horses to ride. Now I am artist and community volunteer. Even years later, people I know have taken drugs and have liked it, but I have never taken them and don't know any better, and it is just how Iike it. I have a stubborn personality which helps and I know my journey.
My mum had a similar saying aswell. "I trust you, its other people I worry about"
God, I love your channel. Doing a jigsaw, eating sweets while listening to your true crime is just perfect ❤️
I see Emma's subscribers are now numbered as over 40,000. Yay!
Extremely well deserved. Emma clearly puts SO much work into her channel.
@@annazrelli4487 totally Agree she is Awesome xxxx
That's because she's stopped helping people, and started feeding into their fears with these types of videos! As a psychologist or psychiatrist she should know this offers nothing useful to anybody. However her videos on mental health and the government using covid as as smoke screen to take away people's rights were. I guess they didn't get the views though.
@@icarusalchemist1398 so must someone in those professions only address that on social media? They can't follow topics that they're interested in? She'd go crazy herself if she only did that. I'll have a look at your channel and see how you're helping. Cheers!
@@icarusalchemist1398 I see on your account it doesn't address those topics. Have you got a different channel?
Jeez, I’m bawling my eyes out 😢 That gorgeous little boy slain at the hands of an absolute monster. Hadn’t heard of this case, so thanks for sharing it. And if any of the Geeling family sees this vid, I’m sure they’ll have felt that you’ve given it justice 💜
When you showed that box my blood ran cold,truly did. You sleep easy Joe RIP
Worrying, isn't it?
Really would love to know how it came about that they were sent the box from him!?
It's not just the analysis, you're a great storyteller as well.
Really liked what you pointed out about psychopaths & class, a lot of food for thought, never thought of it in quite that manner.
And now MOTORHEAD? Emma, you just keep getting cooler. xo
I love that u said “sensible parent letting their kid out” made my day!!! You rock! RIP joe 💔
OMG the wooden box...how sinister Emma. I can’t imagine how you feel as a mother. Xx
Seriously... wth was that about? How disturbing 😟
WOW just WOW. He wheeled poor Joe’s body right out in the open before he dumped him in a shallow grave. Wow, that box he made for your child. Chilling. So Heartbreaking. Thank you Emma
The segment where you walked through the areas where the crime took place...gave your video another dimension. Because you can visualise places but if you aren’t familiar with them, the vision isn’t accurate. Now that we’ve physically seen where this happened...it’s just extra sobering. Paired with your warm, straightforward commentary, this is also beautiful in a strange way. You are a beacon for the justice and protection of others, thank you Emma
God bless you Joe ❤️💐
Emma! Incredible! Thank you for your incredibly personal take on this very sad story and the vulnerability you showed. It was hard to watch but I am very moved. You really are one of a kind in this area. Much love ❤️
I’ve watched you on tv for years and I am loving your channel and the fact you can give your honest opinion to the cases you cover and not be censored or quietened. Keep the videos coming xxx
The poor little boy. My heart breaks for his family. Thinking this murderer may be released one day must be so hard and so painful for them. I do however enjoy how you delve into crimes and behaviours of those responsible to give us more understanding. Even though the crimes are heartbreaking it is always interesting to look at why people behave the way they do. Thank you Emma
I remember listening to you on documentaries and you being one of the only psychologists that I actually remembered. I was so happy when you started your channel. I completed my psychology degree last year and now studying law so I find your content so interesting and love the insight you bring! Thanks for doing this - love your content!
I appreciate you bringing this case to us especially considering the personal nature of these connections.
oh my god I've been into true crime for quite a while and i always searched for documentaries that you talked in because you're my absolute favourite ???? and I never knew you have a UA-cam channel of your own!! How have I not known until now?
Your insight is always so interesting, I've never heard anyone who comes close
12 hours of Emma Kenny videos today while driving cross country and have had many days similar to this and still haven’t found a video I wasn’t interested in. I have been disgusted enough to want to turn off a video but by the behavior of the subjects, and not by the storyteller. Great job, keep it going!
I just watched a video of a local crime quite close to my family and you were on there talking. Norma Bell was such a beautiful soul, thank you for your kind words. And not so kind words about her killer.
I feel honoured to be a subsciber Emma. I only discovered your channel a few days ago and i'm slowly working my way through all your previous videos. I remember the Michael Hamer case...so sad, and so many lives ruined. You most definitely ARE The Queen Of Crime. I have watched you on numerous true-life crime documentaries over the years and always appreciated your straight talking of saying it how it is, but telling the facts from both sides. Please don't stop doing this channel!!!
Maybe a video on Albert Fish someday... reading about him made my skin crawl!
Your hard work and time spent doing these videos is hugely appreciated :)
The walk-through brings a case to life. Thank you for adding that extra depth to it. My fave crime youtuber without a doubt 👌🏼
Great video, Ms. Emma! Bless you and your community for having to deal with such a tragic event so close to home. I remember watching documentaries about this case several months back. Any case involving kiddos is heartbreaking, this one hit especially hard. My best friend has 2 daughters and a cousin that all had/have CF. Those girls have had to WARRIORS from the start. Our rural/small town area have been brought much closer together because of those girls.
Well done for being able to put this together and share this with the world.
Emma me and my mum love you!
Thank you for treating every case with respect ♥️ There are so many True Crime channels on UA-cam, some of which I genuinely do love and follow, but nobody does it from a professional perspective quite like Emma Kenny.
You’re absolutely correct kid’s need their fathers!! Raised 3 ,one daughter and two sons all have careers and are productive citizens also been married almost 26 years. Dads are important!!
I love listening to you ... I enjoy the psychological side that you highlight. Your timelines and voice are clear and creative.
Well done 👏
I just stumbled across your channel today and I’m overjoyed with all the videos I get to catch up on. I love how you give your opinion and talk so passionately. Brilliant video. Subscribed
It feels odd seeing you walk round an area I know so well (I am a Bury resident too)
This case is so sad - I feel so sorry for all those affected by this, including the teachers who must think “what if?” every day.
Sending love to Joes family and friends.
I just watched this and feel mortified. Such an awful tragedy. I first heard of this story on one of those incredibly repetitive satellite TV docos that eventually make their way onto YT. Emma’s presenter skills I have to say are way better and far more thought provoking than those documentaries.
This is so sad. Thank you Emma I know this must have been hard for you and stirred up loads of memories xx
wow Emma, the walk to and through the park made this so real for me, I appreciate the way you pour your heart and soul into everything, thank you, your attention to detail is outstanding! Much appreciated and much respect! x
Your absolute class Emma..... Great job on bringing us in on this story thank you... 🙌
Thanks for a very coherent mix of your personal knowledge and the facts of the case.
Respect to Joe and his loved ones. x
This episode was so emotive thank you for your respectful yet truthful coverage can't wait till next sunday
Emma your dedication to these videos does not go unnoticed. Thank you for educating us so thoroughly in every video. Such a terribly heartbreaking story about Joe, god bless him.
Was there ever an answer to why that fire alarm rang? I had to question if Hamer would set a fire on school property (knowing his letter had been discussed) in an attempt to cause a distraction so he wouldn’t be detained and could get away with Joe. He seemed somewhat calculating enough judging by how the letter was worded.
i thought the very same about the fire alarm.!?
I thought the same thing, kids are always setting of the fire alarm.
No joe was still with us after the fire alarm
a good theory but i doubt it. fire alarms go off in schools all the time and they do regular fire alarm testing and practice
i'm so glad you do these podcast because your explanations for human reactions and feelings to past traumas sometimes helps my battles with ptsd i did watch you on telly but i think sometimes we watch it and just relate it to entertainment and don't listen to any helpful tips where as this does help because your talking to us like we are all in a room with you so i big thankyou for that emma ❤️
Heartbreaking story. Loving you work, Emma. X
Love your stories and the fact you take time to go out and about to show us the more detailed outlook on this horrific murder, not the Queen of crime, but the Queen of crime story telling, keep up the fantastic work Emma 👍👏👏👏👏🤘
Emma I really enjoy watching your videos because not only are you informative but you have so much empathy and you really make us know the victims and how great they were.Thank you !
Thank you Emma for making content that shows us more than what happened and that is it. As a fellow true crime lover it helps to hear the more in depth aspect of the mind and of human nature and how we work and think and what not. You can tell how much work you put in to what you do and it is so appreciated and makes watching you even more wonderful. You're amazing keep up the phenomenal work.
I’ve heard about this story before but not in this much detail from all sides of the story & im so glad u told it because I’ve really understood more about it & I feel so bad for all involved (for Joe & his family & Emma for u cuz I’m sure the re telling is hard & for ur community cuz I know these horrible killings impact the community as well)... thx so much for what u do & thx for always telling the victims story too cuz most of the time we focus on the killers which is great to understand them & try to keep it from happening again but thx for that ❤️❤️
Well done for covering this case Emma. So brave xx and obv so qualified to do this. Love ya x
Another fantastic true crime documentary this week. Excellent informative content. I could tell this was a difficult one for you, for obvious reasons. A very sad story.
I love your videos, I'm learning about crimes I'd never heard of. Keep up the good work!
Thanks Emma for another upload. I just enjoy sundays even more now
I can’t begin to imagine the destruction this crime left on so many people. Joe’s family & friends, the school & the community. How dare Michael think he had the right to take Joe’s life! Poor lad. My heart goes out to everyone that was affected x
Hmmm i was bullied as a child, sexually abused by my step dad , who also tried to kill his on child, My disabled Sister. My own dad left us at 3yrs old but...NEVER EVER would i take this out on anyone. I protect my 2 children like a lioness protects her young so i dont take excuses for the behaviour of these murderers.
Horrible isn't it? I was bullied badly too and I have a lot of anger issues, but I wouldn't kill too but I tend to focus of finding a legitimate channel to deal with my frustration of having put up with it and having had no help, perhaps by volunteering in organisations that clamp down on nasty people or standing up against bullying. We don't really talk about the nasty bullies who bullied Hamer too which should have been tackled right at the beginning. Unfortunately many parents will say 'their kid isn't a bully' no matter how much evidence there is. Many parents will stand up for the victim but many parents will stand up for the bully too, particularly if is their kid. I am glad my nephew is currently being home school to reduce bullying etc from other kids. I have already experienced parents witnesses their toddler hitting other toddlers but saying 'oh it is a phase' and that doesn't help. I was never hit as a toddler and knew it was wrong when I was tiny. Nip it in the bud.
Mum used to beat me to pulp on a regular basis. When I had children, I swore no one would ever raise a hand to them and they were NEVER smacked or terrorised in any way! Change starts with us and we can break the cycle.
This was the very first video of Emma that I watched. Had no idea who she was. Later heard from UK friends that she is basically a household name in the UK.
Now I watch twice a week and it feels like we've been friends for years. Always a go-to even if I scratch out one of the OLD videos. Never came across one that didn't capture my attention from the first five minutes and held it throughout. Thanks Emma!!
Excellent job on this one, Emma!! Thank you
This was a fabulous but sad episode of a terrible tragedy and crime. I loved the energy, anger, frustration and sadness that comes across in this content. It’s clear it is personal. ... but.... please, Emma, don’t say children are immune to COVID-19 - they are not immune. They can still get the virus and can still pass it on to others. My daughter developed MIS-C four weeks after contracting COVID-19. She was nine years old at the time and she was seriously ill for many months.
Completely agree with this comment. Love the episode, Emma did it so well.
However, I’m a children’s intensive care nurse and believe me- kids are not immune from c19. Children have died let alone contracted the virus. I know this is not the focus of the episode but important to highlight. I’ve held the hands of people dying from this disease and tried to comfort their family ❤️🌈💙
Thank you for sharing your insights and knowledge regarding this case. Never easy to talk about things so close to home.
The bodies in the barrels case is like that. Teaching at the school around the corner from where three bodies were found, having children of both perpetrators and victims at the school. Was interesting to say the least being a part of facilitating the students processing their thoughts about it.
Another great shirt too incidentally. Really appreciate your work Em.
You've always been my favourite on the TV shows, and I remember thinking "shame that her segments are so short!", because I wished I could hear more of what you had to say. So now that you have your own show I'm really chuffed! Not only you're amazing and very good at your job, but we have the pleasure of seeing your personality shining through..you're such a nice girl!
Regarding this episode...thank you for taking us to the actual scene, especially when it was so hard for you and so close to home, literally. This really shows how much passion you put into what you do.
Lastly...I have to tell you..your style rocks! I love how you dress, and you looked beautiful.
Thank you Emma, I look forward to your next videos xxx
Bravo! You did Joe and his family justice with your story. Tough as nails to the very end little man. RIP Joe, this universe has a plan for you.
I go to this school. It's so upsetting of this murder, many years later! Finally to figure the meaning of something in our school for this poor boy, makes me feel sick. I leave in 2 months. Thank you Emma for the absolute professional talk about this disgusting case!!
RIP Joe who will forever be loved and I'm really thinking of his family. Thank you so much for sharing Emma and I can tell how affected you are by this. Sending to you loads of love, positive vibes and big hugs my lovely and take care xx
One of the points made around whether he can be rehabilitated is my concern. Psychopaths are incredibly manipulative. How do we know for sure the child is not performing? Even for professionals, as they can be fooled too.
What a stunning rendition of this case. Thank you
Thankyou. That’s really lovely to here I did it justice. Em x
I remember seeing you on shows and being so intrigued by how you break down killers and victims and was beyond stoked to see you have a UA-cam channel on True Crime. Thank you so much for spoiling us with this channel 💕
Thankyou for watching Molly. It’s you who watch that helps me make this content. Em x
Got goosebumps watching this one Emma is crazy just how close this case is to you love your content xxx
Wow, this gave me chills many time. Talk about close to home for you. I think you did an amazing job at telling Joe’s story.
Thank you for the care and thought you put into this program. I think that you did justice to Joe’s family.
Got my cuppa coffee, knotting lace wigs and can finally listen to this. Absolute bliss ⭐️
Suffering for 15 years with PTSD because of this and losing a friend not so bliss
As usual brilliant report, strictly balanced, with the intellectual context that no other UA-camr or TV crime documentaries offer as u do.
Fantastic episode, really well delivered with the utmost respect to the victim. I've been a fan of you Emma since you work in various C & I programmes (Britain's Darkest Taboos etc.) and I'm looking forward to your future content
Thanks for bringing us into your world. That is HEAVY to have that juxtaposed feeling of this place with all the great memories of your kids growing up tied with the horrible event.
Thankyou back. Em x
I have an 11 year old son and I still think of him as my little baby 😢 He's still just a little boy, totally innocent like Joe was.
Poor Joe. Poor parents, my god I just can't imagine their pain.
And this sweet child was battling CF and was already facing the prospect of dying very young, it just breaks my heart.
Thank you so much Emma for the respect and compation you always show for victims and especially little Joe. I also really appreciate how you offer psychological aspects, humanity but no excuse to murderers. It is so welcome in the true crime community.
Hamer, now 24, was sentenced to life, with a minimum of 12 years - a tariff later increased to 15 years by the Court of Appeal. Last year he had his early release plea rejected by a judge, meaning he will stay in prison until at least March 2021
Yes but the question is is was he released in March? I'm presuming as nobody can find anything that he has and has maybe been given a new identity??
Has the monster been put amongst us again?
I feel like this episode is my favorite yet. Emma, I really appreciate how much of yourself and your values that you put out there for your audience to get to know you. These are extremely important conversations about human behaviors and the darker sides of human nature---predators and cluster B's. Cases with children are always so controversial because we want so badly to believe the child didn't know what they were doing...yet...sometimes they do. Sometimes they just don't have a brain wired for empathy and attachment. Maybe they need our help more than anything. I have 2 male friends with NPD and I used to think they were demons, but now I just see how much they suffer and wish there was a way to help (for the sake of society and those around them too).
Love your content so much, and I think you spoke very respectfully and from the heart on this case. Fascinating analysis
The most amazing thing about this one in particular is how you aren't reading off a script. It impacted upon you in such a way that you have it all in your memory. It really shows how much you care, and it's why you're the best true crime UA-camr ♥️
Thankyou for Being lovely. I don’t use scripts as they are to constricted . I just memorise and freestyle. This was a case close to my heart xxx
I ran across you just a couple of nights ago because you popped up when I watch crime videos. You do an awesome job and I subscribed! Looking forward to more of your shows!
I appreciate who you are Emma, It takes a brave person to do this kind of work. Thank you for researching these difficult topics and shedding light on the reality of the evil that lurks in this world. I now believe that before we can fully enlighten ourselves as human beings we must first have a comprehensive understanding of evil. Paradoxically these types of people remind me that although there is much evil, there is also much good in this world. Rest in Power young Michael may your spirit have found peace.
Hi, I stumbled on this video because I too was trying to find out if Hamer is still in prison. I don’t know what compelled me to watch it but now I have I couldn’t pass it by without comment. Thank you for telling this story so well! You portrayed Joe so perfectly ❤. I knew Joe, his dad at the time was best friends with my dad (they are still friends to this day although not as close as they once were…that’s what this kind of trauma does to people I guess). Joe was one of the kindest, most positive and resilient people I’ve ever met. To this day I remember how friendly he was with everyone, we used to go on days out with our dads on their motorbikes when we were kids and despite us not being that close because I was slightly older I always felt at ease when I saw him. My dad was one of the first people Tom (Joes dad) called when they realised he was missing and it was me that answered the phone to him. He was calling to ask my dad to go out and help look for Joe. There’s not a single day since, that I don’t think about that conversation, the panic in his voice haunts me.
Anyway, I hope you’re still active on this channel and see this comment because I think you did a great job. Xx
The walking tour and personal connection made this a much more moving video than some the others. I remember hearing from someone from Yorkshire who lived a short distance from Peter Sutcliffe. She spoke about what it was like living in that area while Sutcliffe was on the prowl. It made for a very moving story since it impacted her personally rather than hearing about this from the BBC. The fact that Hamer could simply do his homework, go to sleep, and the next day act as though nothing had happened shows that he was has no conscience.
I found your comment, "Children don't get COVID, but we need to be afraid' funny as you walked through the park which has been shut down. People don't have enough issues without having to be psychologically terrorized by the government regarding this pandemic nonsense.
Thank you for sharing how personal this is to you.
If he had a frying pan already in his bedroom, before going downstairs to get the knives, I'd say that the murder was premeditated.
Was sat here waiting for my 11 year old to come home from school today, he was a little late and i felt so sick, he had the biggest hug when he came in the door. You teach your children stranger danger but other not about other kids, he has now got strict instructions never to go to anyones house without speaking to me first, even friends, RIP Brave little Joe ❤️❤️❤️❤️