Great video, you are spot on here. I have a set of AD360s I've abused for many years along with a bunch of speedlights. I wanted a balance of power and portability and I am very happy I went with the AD300/XPLOR300 Pro. My 360s are still going strong but I like not having to have an external pack when doing outdoor or abandoned locations. My main reason for going with the 300 vs the 200 is like you demonstrated, the recycle time. The other benefit to me is having the modeling light too. The money saved not getting the 400pro I can get 2 or 3 extra batteries and still save space and weight in my bag.
Got a couple of AD360's too, must be pushing 10 years old now or close (I was an early adopter). But they're starting to glitch on the radio side, losing connection where the other lights dont. And suspect it would be uneconomical to repair. So looking for a replacement. Didn't consider the 300 Pros. Hopefully they live up to their older siblings for longevity. For the time and work I have had out of the 360's? Without replacing the batteries either? Just nothing short of amazing.
@@Spike20101000 I've been abusing the 300 Pros and they are great. I did buy the silicone bumpers for them and they have taken a few falls without any issues. I do have spare batteries but have only run them all the way down once and that was after almost 8 hours in the studio.
Ryan, I own 12 Godox/Flashpoint strobes for my professional and personal work, one V350s; two V1; three AD200Pro; two AD300pro; two AD400Pro; two AD600Pro, and they are all useful for different jobs. But I still find the AD200Pro the most versatile strobe ever made by Godox, with the most different heads and attachments you can use. Cheers and best to you.
I already had an AD200pro, and instead of buying an AD300pro I opted for buying a second AD200pro and the AD-B2 bracket. I can now combine both strobes to a 400 Ws strobe, or use one with the AD-B2 as its Bowens mount and the other as a fill light. That was the better option for me, as I also have 2 V-860iii's to act as background and fill lights.
That $150 price difference between the AD200Pro and AD300 makes it hard for me to agree with you on this one. Yes, the AD200 is prone to overheating when shooting rapid shots in HSS (the manual even touches on this), but for someone not needing HSS or can shoot within the AD200's limitation in that area, the AD200 is still a GREAT value for the dollar. It's hard to say a $500 strobe would be the best entry-level strobe, when you can almost buy two AD200's for the same price and have greater flexibility. All love still big homie!
You don’t feel like it’s waiting your money considering the 300pro is closer to the 400 than the 200 is and they are both compact? That 200 pro is like $309 and it limits you. It was good for the time it was first released but I can’t do anything with that anymore.
@@RyanTroy not for entry level. I use speedlights most of the time, even outdoors, and if it’s midday or bright I’ll rock the 200, I’ve rarely needed more power. But I’m an ND over HSS guy so I don’t deal with that significant loss of power when using HSS. I would rather someone buy two 200s and an ADB2 for slightly more money and have more power and the flexibility of using only one. Yes, the 300 is compact so if size really matters, that would be the better buy, but I still vote for the 200 as best entry level. 😁
When something new comes out we look at something that's old and say it's not good anymore this is better. Honestly it's what you make of it. What you shoot and what you need it for. Don't believe the hype. The AD200 Pro is a beast. With two you got more than enough light to do what you need done.
Something to think about is if you already have one AD200 you can get another one then get the dual bracket and now you have the versatility of using them as two 200s or one 400. But if you don't have any AD200s then the 300 is a good option for a first larger-than-speedlight light.
@@Sashalexandros Right. Adding a 2nd 200 would make it 2x brighter, AKA one stop over the range if they're set to the same power. How close it is in stops to an actual 400 unit I don't know mathematically, but it's bright enough to use outdoors which is why people usually opt for the 400. So, close enough that I prefer having the option of two lights over just one. You can also spread them out and get more coverage, making the light "softer" by giving more wrap as if you had a larger source. More versatility overall. If I really needed more power I'd get the 600 and skip the 400 anyway.
Good video! I like the production value and information. I own a 300 and two 200's.. still say the 200's offer more versatility. Size wise, I can stack 2 of the 200's in my bag the single 300 sits in. Function wise. I can double up the two-200's into the adapter to get 400WS in a pinch or use them sep. in an A/B grouping with umbrellas or boxes. I like the versatility of the separate heads (fresnel/bare or round head) Godox makes a really nice/functional accessory kit for the 200 (barn doors, grid, diffuser) (The awesome Magmod flash accessories also work with the 200.) I guess it all depends on your needs or style of shooting. I've never really had issues with overheating. Price wise, the 200 is also a little easier on the wallet with the 200's and only a half stop less in power than the 300... A new photographer (on a budget) learning OCF could get a 200, trigger, stand and nice reversible umbrella, for around the cost of the 300.
I used the AD200 for a few months; then the AD300 was announced. I pre-ordered it and have been using it since. In fact, I have 2 of AD300s (& AD100). I shoot mostly on-location portraits and have used it in 110 degree heat, mid-day sun at full power (I do carry another battery too). You brought up all the right points. I find its even a tad smaller than the AD200 with bare bulb attached. It occupies a permanent place in my backpack replacing a 70-200 spot. *The downside of the AD300 is the cost of a replacement bulb (which I did have to buy). Since, I get the AD300 at discount, the cost of a bulb + battery made more sense to just buy another unit.
What a great video for people who are currently making a lighting purchase decision. The AD 300 gets stellar reviews from others too, so you're right on point here.
You definitely hit the nail on the head....I rushed out and "Impulse Bought" the AD 200 Pro without doing any research. I was mad at Canon because their flashes were overpriced and they under performed. A local camera shop recommended Godox to me and I never regretted switching. I will be saving my Dollars for the upgrade to the AD 300 Pro. Fast forward to your next video that I just watched...The Protection "Condom!" I hope I'm not to vulgar for your other followers but it's true. I purchased a Rubber Protection for the "Back Side" of my AD 200 Pro. What a lifesaver. I have been fortunate not to break any bulbs yet...thanks to my soft box but it was knocked over backwards by a rambunctious unsupervised "Rug Rat!" No harm, no foul...thanks to my newly acquired "condom! Thanks for your honest, informative, no nonsense videos. Keep up the great reviews DK
Have to disagree. Can you combine 2x ad300pro? Not really. Can you put the ad300 on a 13ft lightstand? Not really. You can combine 2x ad200 for 400w. The ad200 is a whole eco system. You can modify the heads, easier to travel with. It's more functional than a ad300. We use 4-6 lights during an event. The ad200 is perfect for that. If you're a 1 light guy, sure, go with the ad300. But if that light breaks. It costs 2x ad200 for 1x ad300. Thanks for your video, appreciate the inputs and your review
AD200 Pro is better just for 3 reasons: - It's totally compatible with the AK-R1 modifyer system with the H200R head. - Could be combined with another AD200 / AD200 Pro with the AD-B2 head, to give you a "AD400". - Could be combined with the R200 as a ring flash. So, the more compatibility, the better for all your uses. And also it's the best one in terms of value/money.
@@photographer8486 you can combine 2 ad200s and using ad-b2 with their bare bulb giving you the power of an ad400.. the ad100 is not able to do this. The bracket only works with the ad200. It's the reason my favorite set up is having 6 ad200s with 3 brackets... you can have a massive lighting system for this.
@@Pazcomedy thank you for the insight! I am beginner in photography. I bought a used Sony A7s2. New 24-70 2.8 lens. How much power flash would be enough to shoot outdoors? I would be doing street photography and portraits. I would want to take this flash with me easily and during travelling. Should I go for on camera flash or off camera flash This would be 1st flash that I would buy. What are your suggestions for flash? Also suggest soft box and tripod (either camera or flash would be tripod as I can hold only 1 thing) for travelling.
@@photographer8486 Well, the a7sii is more of a video hybrid... Great camera but in the photo world it has low megapixel. The only reason this concerns me is you need to get your shots framed right in camera you can't crop in as much because you'll lose quality. I use 2 a7iii, and have 2 ad6400s. It's not about the camera its about you. The kit I think you should start with is an v860ii, a stand, and a trigger with an umbrella. At times it will feel underpowered, but that's the point you need to learn to shoot without that much power... then when you upgrade to an ad200, or 2 of them, or ad300, ad400, or ad600 you will be very good. Ad300 imo is overpowered for most portraits, I don't care what this guys said here. I have done 12 person family shoots with an ad200 and a umbrella. The key is understanding your camera and light... If you are just doing single portraits you can do a single v860ii on an umbrella to get started with a trigger, it's relatively low cost in the flash world and will teach you a lot. I started with that kit and just bought an extra v860ii and a flashbender... and got pretty solid but as I did more daylight shooting got the ad600 since the ad200 didn't exist then. Now I know how to control the light with ad200s... but the ad600 was very powerful for a basic shoot and didn't ever need recycle time. If you have the money you could get the ad200 to start but... learning to understand light is important. So starting underpowered and learning to use it will make you that much more powerful when you have more power because you will understand light better. My current kit is 4 ad200, 4 v860ii. I have plans to get 2 more ad200s, and an ad600. however I don't think I'll ever really need that much power. Most of my shoots use at best 3 ad200s. I just like having the extra power if needed. For a long time I had an ad600, 4 ad200s, and 2 v860ii. There was nothing I couldn't shoot. The only reason I like speed lights is it lets you get more creative on shooting cars, adding different background lights. They are cheap and you can put them under the under carriage of a car with different gels, while lighting it well with ad200s. If you are lighting just a single person or couple portrait, a speedlight can work but you gotta learn to use that light. I always believe in off camera flash over on camera flash... but if you get good at on camera flash it's still better than no flash. Study and learn, go out and practice, repeate, and you'll be a good photographer soon enough.
I own both of them. He is right. AD300 gives you more headroom for using lower power setting for the same result, thus a bit faster reloading, plus having almost the same size.
Not sure I agree with this. In Australia, the AD300Pro is approx $230AUD more than the AD200Pro. And for this, you only get a small amount of light output when using barebulb, and ability to attach a Godox mount modifier directly onto flash. When you attach the fresnel head onto the AD200Pro, the light output far exceeds the AD300Pro. The AD200Pro is a modular light, allowing you attach a range of different heads to the body of the flash. Barebulb, fresnel, extension cables, roundhead.. and now even a ringflash. In regards to the overheat throttling coming on... agreed, this possibly happens slightly faster on the AD200 than the AD300, but its not due to a temperature threshold. Its actually a counter in the flash, respective to a particular output. This is shown in AD200Pro manual. This counter can be reset quickly by turning flash off then back on again. So for the outdoor test that was shown at 5 fps HSS (no power output given), there is no reason why this couldn't be done with a AD200Pro. Overheat protection for AD200 only comes on after 40 full power shots. Shooting at 5fps, the output of the AD300 would have to be approx 1/4 power to recycle quick enough (maybe even lower down to 1/8), which would mean the AD200 would then be 1/4 +0.7 power approx to give equivalent output... this would then mean, heat protection would only come on after 150 pops. I do question the HSS description for the 5fps leaf throwing test.... the camera settings were 1/125 sec 100iso F1.8... this is below Nikon's camera sync speed? Overall, for the price, still think the AD200Pro is by far the more versatile light. And kudos to Godox for supplying the photographic industry with the most diverse and economical battery powered portable strobes... cant say there's not enough choice in their range for anyone's specific need. 👍 🙂
After watching a few videos trying to decide between the ad100pro and the ad200pro, this video made up my mind on the ad300pro, glad i found this video, all the other videos didnt even mention it, thanx!
If everyone wouldn’t shoot like Machine Gun Kelly, there wouldn’t be any recycling time issue with the AD200. I don’t rapid fir during a portrait session. I pose my models / clients, and if I’m gong to get more than one shot, I have them hold the pose.
Thanks Ryan. I support your findings. I live and work in Barbados(summer all year). It would be false economy to buy another AD200. It overheats easily. True, it's nearly half the cost, but tell the client that's why you missed the shot. About the AD300's power, just swap the reflector for the AD-R14.
Wow! Man... Your videos are spot on! Clean, good sound, you can HEAR what you're saying, you go right to the point, you're careful to say what YOU like, you keep things real. There's no fluff or ridiculous crazy music or editing. You're clear and concise! Very professional my friend. Keep it up! Oh! And I'm gonna buy a 300! LOL! I have one AD200pro and two V1s. Love the 200, but that recycle time makes me CRAZY!!! Ugh! I've missed a lot of shots because of that! I was gonna get a couple AD100s for portability, but I love those V1s. I'm staying with the V1s and the 300!
I mean on paper the 300 is better than the 200. But I've found that there isn't really that much of a difference in light output between the two. But the 300 can make for a really nice portable kit with the built-in mount for the godox modifiers. I say this as someone who brought the AD300 then gave it away LMAO. I'd rather have the AD400Pro..
Yeah i saw the 300pro video with the one that got away. well the one that got pregnant. you should of kept it. you would of enjoyed it more than that 200 but you a westcott guy lol
@@RyanTroy I actually liked using my Streaklight 360 (which I still own) more. It has more power and the battery last longer. If I ever replace it. I’ll replace it with the Godox AD400 Pro when it goes on sale.
Thanks for the video. Respectfully though, other than the recycle time I see no advantage - especially given that it's $200 USD more than the AD200pro, and only $150 less than the 400Pro. Having the ability to switch between the bare bulb and fresnel head makes it super versatile, and with the optional round head, you get more out of it. With a $10 adapter, you can use all the magnetic mods that the V1 uses, and with the ADB2 adapter, I can get a 400w/s light by using 2 together. I can also fit them better in smaller spaces in my bag - the flat design means they can stack or fit into the laptop compartment in a bag. I get that everyone's use case is a little different, but I really don't see the value, considering the 200 and 400. I do agree that the 100 is kind of useless. Cheers
there was a guy at the photo walk that brought two ad200s to do the whole 400 thing.. and it failed him compared to my 300pro that we used high speed sync with for the whole photo walk and came back to the hotel with half a battery.. on paper what you are saying sounds perfect.. but out and about in the real world.. it is the better compact light.. it isn't the 400 but the 400 isn't something i place in my camera bag i bring a whole other case for it.. the 300 actually fits in my camera bag and with the new para snap that glow just released brings even more reasons to switch to the 300.. i will be doing a video on that when i get mine. the 400 and 300 both has the godox mount built into it and when you see how the para snap fold so thin it is something the 200 wouldn't be able to compete with..... Respectfully.
@@RyanTroy I appreciate the reply. And perhaps I don't do as much rapid fire shooting at full or 1/2 power. I can see a case for it for that reason. Personally, I'm happy with the bowens mount, because it gives the most versatility between mods and brands, so I'd definitely have to bring an adapter, rather than get a second set of godox mount mods, but again, I do see the value in a different use case. For my use case, I don't see any advantage to the extra cost and adapters I'd need (or mods I'd have to buy specifically), but at the end of the day, use whatever works best for you to get the job done. Glad we agree on the 100 though :)
One thing you didn't mention is The Modeling lamp on the AD200 is trash. I have two but I am now in the market to purchase something that can give me more power on that end.
I had AD 200’s but I never liked their handling, yes there are a number of accessories, bare bulb, Roundhead, LED head, etc, but ends up a bulky kit. I switched to the AD300, very satisfied.
i was about to pull the trigger on 2 AD200 units. you've convinced me not to. i have a pair of AD400s and will most likely go with the AD300s now. Thanks, mate! Great work
I haven't used HSS in a while. I got some 3, 6, and 10 stop clip on sensor ND filters by Kase so I can use AD200s in the brightest sun without using HSS or high power. I haven't did a real shoot with the sensor ND filters yet but have learned to use them while shooting family members. It's a great way to reduce carrying gear and still be able to operate in bright sunlight. I do have a couple of AD600BM strobes that I haven't used all year.
@@RyanTroy For me the 6 stop works best. If I use f1.4 AP I can set my shutter speed under 200th and have the lights about 4 feet away and use very little power
At the end of the day all that matters is getting paid. As long as you're clients are happy and constantly recommend you they don't gaf what gear you use. Just don't break your pockets and can't pay your own bills. I use the ad200 not the pro, the ad600 and a c stand with a deep parabolic. I never complain about the weight. Stay healthy and work hard weight won't matter
What you are saying is pure facts but this is more for people trying to make a decision if you already have the 200 its not to make you ditch it but i would invest into the 300 system though bro!
Used to own two ad200s. My first experience wasn’t good. It overheated after only 60 to 70 shots. The culprit was using hss which I have come custom to. It is weird since my nikon speed lights didn’t suffer from this and they are outside air cooled just like the ad200. The ad300pro helps tremendously by having a built in fan. The ad100pro also has a built in fan and the larger strobes yet the ad200pro is like a speedlight. The only way I got around this was by putting two together adb2 bracket which made it all to heavy and bulky to travel. I never saw anyone use this setup. I eventually sold it all off.
Great video thanks, I'm looking at the 200 and 300 at the moment and this is the first comparison I've seen that mentions the recycle times and overheating.
Godox Ad200Pro is the most versatile among all Godox Flash because for this two point value for money and size. Given the Ad200/pro has many accessories you can get. like B2,AK R1, H200R etc. when regards to recycle time i barely notice it during any of my event fraction of a millisecond no bigdeal.
Im sold out! thanks for the review. I noticed that as well, the AD200 is not consistent. Ive missed shots due to over heating...Im planning to get the ad300 and use my ad200 for fill and gels....
I think the most versatile set up is 4 ad200s with the 2 adb2... I rarely need to go to 1/2 anyways. My perfect full set up of flashes is 6 ad200 with 3 adb2, 4 860iis, and 2 ad600 for extreme outdoor light issues(group model shots). I carry 4 ad200s and 4 v860ii at all times. I have 2 a7iii, 2 triggers, and I carry 8 lenses, cleaning kit, and a flashbender, in one backpack bag... NOTHING beats this set up for wanting to be able to shoot anything anywhere. ad300 is nice but it takes up too much space I leave my brackets attached to my light stand... so I never forget them.
I keep stumbling on this video, and I vehemently disagree. The AD200 still is the best and most versatile speed light ever. The 300 really isn’t that much more powerful than a 200 especially with modifiers attached. To me, the AD 200 wins because all of the amazing add ons like the R200, S200, the AD-B2 if you need more power, and the bare bulb is clutch in a soft box and getting even lighting. Not to mention the 300 and 400 have their own stupid mount and you have to use the bowens mount converter which is annoying AF especially if you forget it at home. Two AD200s and a couple of AD600bm’s and you are set for any job. I own 100-600 and I gotta say 200 are ALWAYS in my kit no matter what.
Ryan, I very much appreciate your delivery and your content. I could do without the background "music" though. I choose to watch a video to learn something, and not to be entertained. You have valuable, honest input for this industry. The internet is becoming today's classroom. But the one thing that you will not find in a classroom is planned background noise. Keep pushing the information. It is much needed.
I have both. I can say the AD200 works better in recycling then speedlights with the flash speedlight extension mounted on DSLR vs normal speedlights. I do HSS a lot in events so it's very useful. AD300 is good as mounted, period.
What an excellent review my brother. Great Video illustration comparing the strobes. You made my decision very easy to purchase the Godox AD300 vs the 200 & 400 and also saved me the precious time I would have to spend watching numerous comparison videos. In addition the cadence of your voice is perfect for instructional videos. Keep producing this great content and representing our community.
I have the ad300 & ad 400. I love them. I got the ad 200 a couple of week ago to try with the Magmod system. I don’t know if I like keep it and just use my canon AI flash. But I love watching your video. The ad 300 is my go too. I like the Magmod system, I wish it was a easy way to use it with the ad 300.
Agree with you on this, except for portability. The 300 Pro is harder for me to get in my camera bag, if I’m trying to take 2 bodies, 3 lenses, and a flash in a single bag, the 300 isn’t an option. I actually carry my 300 in a second bag with my 600 Pro. SUPER portable. 🤣
Man you got a TMIDD setup right there with the ad300 pro and 33.4 in ez lock glow haha. They lied about the deep parabolic part but it is my best modifier still. The major thing I like about the 300 over the 200 is the modeling lamp since I use it indoors and outdoors. If I did it over I would probably go for a 400 over the 300 just to have the extra power if I needed it. Great video bro!
Thank you for this video! I'm branching out into off camera flash and had the ad200pro in my cart lol. Looks as if I'll be adding the ad300 pro because I want to set myself up right! Also, you just gained a new follower👍🏾👍🏾
How have your strobes held up all this time? Looking to buy my first, but have read some negative things about godox dependability. However it sounds like reviewers were maybe over using their equipment (100's of shoots mentioned).
So I still have this 300. When it falls now I’m safe because I put this silicone protection on the back but when it use to fall the actual strobe would break but you can get replacements of those through Amazon and when I replace the bulb it’s working again. Honestly it’s on how you protect them from falling. If it doesn’t fall it will work for ever in my case and study
@@RyanTroy thanks for quick reply. Reviews i saw on b&h mentioned more battery problems- but this was all good knowledge. If you're still happy 2 years later, i feel safer buying.
A year later the AD200 is still a better flash than the AD300 for most photographers. Right now both on sale, the AD200 pro is $200 less at $ $299. The AD200 has 2 flashes, Fresnel and bulb, that is call redundancy if something goes wrong with one you have the other. The 300 is only a half stop more power. For 600 instead of 500 you can have 2 ad200s and it has all the AK-r1 magnetic, the S bracket that can take two ad200s for double the power (1 stop more) Overheating. The AD200pro states in the manual that the will shoot 40 consecutive full power shots on the Fresnel and 60 full power shots on the bare bulb before it overheats and goes into crippled mode (still fires but at reduce rate), at 1/2 power double that number before it goes crippled mode. Page 40 in the manual is where you can find that info. The AD300 does not have that information. Since I did not think what you were saying was right. I tested it myself on my R5. At 6fps and 1/32 power 1/1000 shutter speed. I would get 8 frames before the flash dropped one frame, then 5 more, drop one frame. This is because the frame rate is exceeding the flashes ability to recycle the flash fast enough. I tested this a number of times and the overheat indicator never came on. But we know any flash in high speed sync the flash loses power. If I were going to use HSS outside, I would use my AD600 or minimally put my 2 Ad200's together in one softbox which would give me as many or more flashes without overheating than the AD300 at $600 with way more flexibility. No one I know only has on AD300 or just one light. That is the only case where the AD300 might be better that just one AD200.
🥹🥹🥹😂😂😂😂😂😂 I’m going to have godox contact you bro. With all this testing you did I would appreciate a video put together for me to watch.. the 300 is a better by itself outside hss flash.. it just is…
@@RyanTroy Not better than the AD600 sorry. For outdoor HSS, ad600 is the master for single light and the 300 is the padawan learner. Two Ad200s will always be better than one AD300. My testing is not scientific, but my own observation and it is good enough for me. I don't need Godox to contact me, they put the specs right in the manual, if you read it you would know you are wrong about the overheating.. and you know it. But good story bro.
For me AD600Pro and AD200Pro are still the best combination. AD300 is just in the middle. It's heavier and bigger for a small benefit. FYI: I just view MarkusPix video disliking AD300. I think he got the point.
This is going to my first light set up Which one should I go with? I usually use natural light for my portrait photography but want to see how I get on with some fill-in light.
I have 2 AD300 and last fashion shoot outdoors in NY they would overheat and it was only 65 degrees outside, I had 2 knowing this could happen so switched them out to get by.
Great video, Ryan. I've never seen your videos before and never given the AD300 Pro much thought. After watching your video, I might buy one tomorrow. I currently have two AD200 Pros and one AD180 (which was given to me for free). I just subscribed too. 🙂
I started videography this yr. Still learning , but i wud like to get into photography aslwell. I currently have 3 godox 60ml bi with softboxes. Can i practice using this lights or should i get the a300, is ther a big difference between straight light coming from the 60ml and a flashpoint? Im new in the field.
I don’t have the godox 200 branded one. I have the Flashpoint eVOLV 200 , I do like it . I like being able to go from speed light to bear bulb . Or a led panel type light .
Skip the AD300, and get AD100. The AD100 has same illumination power as AD200 so you dont lose light. But you will lose bulb head for better utilized light modifiers. AD100 and AD200 with the S-bracket makes eay to use almost anything,but like AD300, the AD100 cant utlize them properly lile AD200 can. If you use mainly umbrellas and other shoot through materials, and not softboxes and other reflectors, get the AD100. Forget the AD300 totally. The AD200 is still best choice of all three if you have more complex lighting setups. For most cases AD100 is sufficient even by limited round head. And when you need crazy power, you get AD600 but at that point you must really carry more equipment than anything else. For events, outdoor portrait and usual life style fashion shoots, AD100. For studios and such, AD200. All rest only as required.
Nice video. I'm with you. I have the V1, ad200, ad300, and ad400. The 300 is my favorite. I just need to see if my Bowens mount adapter off my 400pro fits it. They make a Bowens adapter for the 300 and its the same part number as the one for the 400. I'd rather do that then use an S2 bracket.
They are almost same price, and for those who got ad200, the battery is not the same with ad100. Good for people who just buy their first flash, ad100 will be sufficient, multiple ad100
Looks like good things happen to those that wait...... thank you for your advice in which direction to go on the strobes with our conversation earlier ..... I just purchased both the flashpoint explor 300 pro and 400 pro as a kit with 2 softboxes ..... both for $999 at adorama.....
I bought my AD300 Pro cheaper than my AD200 Pro on a special sale, half the price of an AD200 Pro. I use both in tandem and with a TT600. To me it's not overheating it's just the overheating protection kicks in to prevent damage from overheating.
I love using the AD200 with the extension head. I clip the pack part to the base and it keeps the nightstand more stable. I shoot in the shade so it's enough light for me. I would. like to get my hands on a 300 one day. It's tough getting godox here in Philippines.
Thanks Ryan. Something you casually mentioned in this video about wheeling this stuff in your wagon strikes me. Yeah I'm lazy too, or maybe we're both just old enough to know better. Great video!
Hey Troy, when I listened to your analysis which makes alot of sense I was totally pissed with myself I got the ad200 (not the pro ) rather than the 300 ( didn't even know there's a 300 ) until i just checked the price out and the difference is over $150 between the both.. I guess I will stick with my ad200 && a600bm (manual only).
I like that you made your point in terms of preference and then supported it with facts. This is beautiful, especially since I am now transitioning to strobe photography. The price difference is quite a point for me but after watching your review, I think I am leaning towards saving to make the 300 my first. Thank you bro
Awesome review and comparison, especially on the recycle time. I don't have the Ad200 Pro, just the Ad200 and it's TRUE about the recycle time. I was at a photo collab and the recycle time was killer :( Especially has 1/1 and 1/2 power. I just looove how portable the AD200 is.
beautifully explained, I' coming from the age of on camera flash :) so can you please guide me what else I need to buy from amazon apart from the AD300 you meantioned {to work with camera...like trigger , stand etc..if you can share link}
Great video, you are spot on here. I have a set of AD360s I've abused for many years along with a bunch of speedlights. I wanted a balance of power and portability and I am very happy I went with the AD300/XPLOR300 Pro. My 360s are still going strong but I like not having to have an external pack when doing outdoor or abandoned locations. My main reason for going with the 300 vs the 200 is like you demonstrated, the recycle time. The other benefit to me is having the modeling light too. The money saved not getting the 400pro I can get 2 or 3 extra batteries and still save space and weight in my bag.
I have to pin this comment! because you hit the nail on the head with that!
Got a couple of AD360's too, must be pushing 10 years old now or close (I was an early adopter).
But they're starting to glitch on the radio side, losing connection where the other lights dont.
And suspect it would be uneconomical to repair. So looking for a replacement. Didn't consider the 300 Pros.
Hopefully they live up to their older siblings for longevity. For the time and work I have had out of the 360's? Without replacing the batteries either?
Just nothing short of amazing.
@@Spike20101000 I've been abusing the 300 Pros and they are great. I did buy the silicone bumpers for them and they have taken a few falls without any issues. I do have spare batteries but have only run them all the way down once and that was after almost 8 hours in the studio.
Ryan, I own 12 Godox/Flashpoint strobes for my professional and personal work, one V350s; two V1; three AD200Pro; two AD300pro; two AD400Pro; two AD600Pro, and they are all useful for different jobs. But I still find the AD200Pro the most versatile strobe ever made by Godox, with the most different heads and attachments you can use. Cheers and best to you.
I was about to comment and suggest the same, I have all of them except for the ad600 and I really think the same about the ad200!
I already had an AD200pro, and instead of buying an AD300pro I opted for buying a second AD200pro and the AD-B2 bracket. I can now combine both strobes to a 400 Ws strobe, or use one with the AD-B2 as its Bowens mount and the other as a fill light. That was the better option for me, as I also have 2 V-860iii's to act as background and fill lights.
Eu tenho um mas vou investir em mais dois AD 200 pro ... Um kit de luz completo para fotos externas que tem varios adaptadores
That $150 price difference between the AD200Pro and AD300 makes it hard for me to agree with you on this one. Yes, the AD200 is prone to overheating when shooting rapid shots in HSS (the manual even touches on this), but for someone not needing HSS or can shoot within the AD200's limitation in that area, the AD200 is still a GREAT value for the dollar. It's hard to say a $500 strobe would be the best entry-level strobe, when you can almost buy two AD200's for the same price and have greater flexibility. All love still big homie!
You don’t feel like it’s waiting your money considering the 300pro is closer to the 400 than the 200 is and they are both compact? That 200 pro is like $309 and it limits you. It was good for the time it was first released but I can’t do anything with that anymore.
@@RyanTroy not for entry level. I use speedlights most of the time, even outdoors, and if it’s midday or bright I’ll rock the 200, I’ve rarely needed more power. But I’m an ND over HSS guy so I don’t deal with that significant loss of power when using HSS. I would rather someone buy two 200s and an ADB2 for slightly more money and have more power and the flexibility of using only one. Yes, the 300 is compact so if size really matters, that would be the better buy, but I still vote for the 200 as best entry level. 😁
In my country, the difference is 50 usd. Easy choice then 😀
When something new comes out we look at something that's old and say it's not good anymore this is better. Honestly it's what you make of it. What you shoot and what you need it for. Don't believe the hype. The AD200 Pro is a beast. With two you got more than enough light to do what you need done.
Appreciate these insights, just looking at buying two of the 200’s
Something to think about is if you already have one AD200 you can get another one then get the dual bracket and now you have the versatility of using them as two 200s or one 400. But if you don't have any AD200s then the 300 is a good option for a first larger-than-speedlight light.
I have to 200 pros and that dual bracket and it's almost a 600
as far as I know, flash power doesnt add mathematically in W/S but rather as a stop
@@Sashalexandros Right. Adding a 2nd 200 would make it 2x brighter, AKA one stop over the range if they're set to the same power. How close it is in stops to an actual 400 unit I don't know mathematically, but it's bright enough to use outdoors which is why people usually opt for the 400. So, close enough that I prefer having the option of two lights over just one. You can also spread them out and get more coverage, making the light "softer" by giving more wrap as if you had a larger source. More versatility overall. If I really needed more power I'd get the 600 and skip the 400 anyway.
Good video! I like the production value and information. I own a 300 and two 200's.. still say the 200's offer more versatility.
Size wise, I can stack 2 of the 200's in my bag the single 300 sits in.
Function wise. I can double up the two-200's into the adapter to get 400WS in a pinch or use them sep. in an A/B grouping with umbrellas or boxes.
I like the versatility of the separate heads (fresnel/bare or round head)
Godox makes a really nice/functional accessory kit for the 200 (barn doors, grid, diffuser)
(The awesome Magmod flash accessories also work with the 200.)
I guess it all depends on your needs or style of shooting. I've never really had issues with overheating. Price wise, the 200 is also a little easier on the wallet with the 200's and only a half stop less in power than the 300... A new photographer (on a budget) learning OCF could get a 200, trigger, stand and nice reversible umbrella, for around the cost of the 300.
I used the AD200 for a few months; then the AD300 was announced. I pre-ordered it and have been using it since. In fact, I have 2 of AD300s (& AD100). I shoot mostly on-location portraits and have used it in 110 degree heat, mid-day sun at full power (I do carry another battery too). You brought up all the right points. I find its even a tad smaller than the AD200 with bare bulb attached. It occupies a permanent place in my backpack replacing a 70-200 spot. *The downside of the AD300 is the cost of a replacement bulb (which I did have to buy). Since, I get the AD300 at discount, the cost of a bulb + battery made more sense to just buy another unit.
Yeah i really love this light!
What a great video for people who are currently making a lighting purchase decision. The AD 300 gets stellar reviews from others too, so you're right on point here.
Thank you for watching!!
I’m in the “purchase decision” position. Not sure yet, I’m a beginner in the ocf world. May go the cheaper route and get a pair of AD200 pros.
You definitely hit the nail on the head....I rushed out and "Impulse Bought" the AD 200 Pro without doing any research. I was mad at Canon because their flashes were overpriced and they under performed. A local camera shop recommended Godox to me and I never regretted switching. I will be saving my Dollars for the upgrade to the AD 300 Pro. Fast forward to your next video that I just watched...The Protection "Condom!" I hope I'm not to vulgar for your other followers but it's true.
I purchased a Rubber Protection for the "Back Side" of my AD 200 Pro. What a lifesaver. I have been fortunate not to break any bulbs yet...thanks to my soft box but it was knocked over backwards by a rambunctious unsupervised "Rug Rat!" No harm, no foul...thanks to my newly acquired "condom! Thanks for your honest, informative, no nonsense videos. Keep up the great reviews
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Have to disagree. Can you combine 2x ad300pro? Not really. Can you put the ad300 on a 13ft lightstand? Not really. You can combine 2x ad200 for 400w. The ad200 is a whole eco system. You can modify the heads, easier to travel with. It's more functional than a ad300. We use 4-6 lights during an event. The ad200 is perfect for that.
If you're a 1 light guy, sure, go with the ad300. But if that light breaks. It costs 2x ad200 for 1x ad300.
Thanks for your video, appreciate the inputs and your review
Considering the flash tube on the 300 has a green tint that doesn’t match anything else in the family, that alone says no thank you.
AD200 Pro is better just for 3 reasons:
- It's totally compatible with the AK-R1 modifyer system with the H200R head.
- Could be combined with another AD200 / AD200 Pro with the AD-B2 head, to give you a "AD400".
- Could be combined with the R200 as a ring flash.
So, the more compatibility, the better for all your uses. And also it's the best one in terms of value/money.
the 2nd point is very intriguing.
Can two AD100 be combined?
Or AD100 and AD200 be combined?
@@photographer8486 no just the 200s
@@photographer8486 you can combine 2 ad200s and using ad-b2 with their bare bulb giving you the power of an ad400.. the ad100 is not able to do this. The bracket only works with the ad200. It's the reason my favorite set up is having 6 ad200s with 3 brackets... you can have a massive lighting system for this.
@@Pazcomedy thank you for the insight!
I am beginner in photography.
I bought a used Sony A7s2.
New 24-70 2.8 lens.
How much power flash would be enough to shoot outdoors? I would be doing street photography and portraits.
I would want to take this flash with me easily and during travelling.
Should I go for on camera flash or off camera flash
This would be 1st flash that I would buy.
What are your suggestions for flash?
Also suggest soft box and tripod (either camera or flash would be tripod as I can hold only 1 thing) for travelling.
@@photographer8486 Well, the a7sii is more of a video hybrid... Great camera but in the photo world it has low megapixel. The only reason this concerns me is you need to get your shots framed right in camera you can't crop in as much because you'll lose quality. I use 2 a7iii, and have 2 ad6400s. It's not about the camera its about you.
The kit I think you should start with is an v860ii, a stand, and a trigger with an umbrella. At times it will feel underpowered, but that's the point you need to learn to shoot without that much power... then when you upgrade to an ad200, or 2 of them, or ad300, ad400, or ad600 you will be very good. Ad300 imo is overpowered for most portraits, I don't care what this guys said here. I have done 12 person family shoots with an ad200 and a umbrella. The key is understanding your camera and light...
If you are just doing single portraits you can do a single v860ii on an umbrella to get started with a trigger, it's relatively low cost in the flash world and will teach you a lot. I started with that kit and just bought an extra v860ii and a flashbender... and got pretty solid but as I did more daylight shooting got the ad600 since the ad200 didn't exist then. Now I know how to control the light with ad200s... but the ad600 was very powerful for a basic shoot and didn't ever need recycle time.
If you have the money you could get the ad200 to start but... learning to understand light is important. So starting underpowered and learning to use it will make you that much more powerful when you have more power because you will understand light better.
My current kit is 4 ad200, 4 v860ii. I have plans to get 2 more ad200s, and an ad600. however I don't think I'll ever really need that much power. Most of my shoots use at best 3 ad200s. I just like having the extra power if needed. For a long time I had an ad600, 4 ad200s, and 2 v860ii. There was nothing I couldn't shoot.
The only reason I like speed lights is it lets you get more creative on shooting cars, adding different background lights. They are cheap and you can put them under the under carriage of a car with different gels, while lighting it well with ad200s.
If you are lighting just a single person or couple portrait, a speedlight can work but you gotta learn to use that light. I always believe in off camera flash over on camera flash... but if you get good at on camera flash it's still better than no flash.
Study and learn, go out and practice, repeate, and you'll be a good photographer soon enough.
GODOX AD200PRO. Magmod, three different types of light, AD-B2 option as, almost equivalent to 400. The best definition of this flash is OPTIONS
horrible options
I own both of them. He is right. AD300 gives you more headroom for using lower power setting for the same result, thus a bit faster reloading, plus having almost the same size.
Not sure I agree with this.
In Australia, the AD300Pro is approx $230AUD more than the AD200Pro. And for this, you only get a small amount of light output when using barebulb, and ability to attach a Godox mount modifier directly onto flash.
When you attach the fresnel head onto the AD200Pro, the light output far exceeds the AD300Pro. The AD200Pro is a modular light, allowing you attach a range of different heads to the body of the flash. Barebulb, fresnel, extension cables, roundhead.. and now even a ringflash. In regards to the overheat throttling coming on... agreed, this possibly happens slightly faster on the AD200 than the AD300, but its not due to a temperature threshold. Its actually a counter in the flash, respective to a particular output. This is shown in AD200Pro manual. This counter can be reset quickly by turning flash off then back on again. So for the outdoor test that was shown at 5 fps HSS (no power output given), there is no reason why this couldn't be done with a AD200Pro. Overheat protection for AD200 only comes on after 40 full power shots. Shooting at 5fps, the output of the AD300 would have to be approx 1/4 power to recycle quick enough (maybe even lower down to 1/8), which would mean the AD200 would then be 1/4 +0.7 power approx to give equivalent output... this would then mean, heat protection would only come on after 150 pops. I do question the HSS description for the 5fps leaf throwing test.... the camera settings were 1/125 sec 100iso F1.8... this is below Nikon's camera sync speed?
Overall, for the price, still think the AD200Pro is by far the more versatile light.
And kudos to Godox for supplying the photographic industry with the most diverse and economical battery powered portable strobes... cant say there's not enough choice in their range for anyone's specific need. 👍 🙂
This helped me decide to get the AD200. Thanks.
Anytime!
After watching a few videos trying to decide between the ad100pro and the ad200pro, this video made up my mind on the ad300pro, glad i found this video, all the other videos didnt even mention it, thanx!
You should check out my parasnap video to show you how i really utilize my ad300 pro now
If everyone wouldn’t shoot like Machine Gun Kelly, there wouldn’t be any recycling time issue with the AD200. I don’t rapid fir during a portrait session. I pose my models / clients, and if I’m gong to get more than one shot, I have them hold the pose.
im not going to lie that had me in tears lol the Machine Gun Kelly comment
@@RyanTroy 🤣 It’s true though.
i think u are wrong! The versatility of the AD200 with all it's attachments like R200 are invaluable imho
Thank you for sharing, I'm about to make my 1st purchase of an off camera flash, the AD 300 will be the ticket.
You wont go wrong with it. Trust me!
Thanks Ryan. I support your findings. I live and work in Barbados(summer all year). It would be false economy to buy another AD200. It overheats easily. True, it's nearly half the cost, but tell the client that's why you missed the shot. About the AD300's power, just swap the reflector for the AD-R14.
Wow! Man... Your videos are spot on! Clean, good sound, you can HEAR what you're saying, you go right to the point, you're careful to say what YOU like, you keep things real. There's no fluff or ridiculous crazy music or editing. You're clear and concise! Very professional my friend. Keep it up!
Oh! And I'm gonna buy a 300! LOL! I have one AD200pro and two V1s. Love the 200, but that recycle time makes me CRAZY!!! Ugh! I've missed a lot of shots because of that! I was gonna get a couple AD100s for portability, but I love those V1s. I'm staying with the V1s and the 300!
Sorry for the late reply but thank you i really appreciate that!!
I mean on paper the 300 is better than the 200. But I've found that there isn't really that much of a difference in light output between the two. But the 300 can make for a really nice portable kit with the built-in mount for the godox modifiers. I say this as someone who brought the AD300 then gave it away LMAO. I'd rather have the AD400Pro..
Yeah i saw the 300pro video with the one that got away. well the one that got pregnant. you should of kept it. you would of enjoyed it more than that 200 but you a westcott guy lol
@@RyanTroy I actually liked using my Streaklight 360 (which I still own) more. It has more power and the battery last longer. If I ever replace it. I’ll replace it with the Godox AD400 Pro when it goes on sale.
The 300 is my go to single light kit!
@@intrinsicimagery Same here my ad300 is my goto especially since I have the modifier that snaps right onto the light without the adapter.
@@TMIDD AD400 has a godox mount on it as well as the option to install the for Bowens mount.
Thanks for the video. Respectfully though, other than the recycle time I see no advantage - especially given that it's $200 USD more than the AD200pro, and only $150 less than the 400Pro. Having the ability to switch between the bare bulb and fresnel head makes it super versatile, and with the optional round head, you get more out of it. With a $10 adapter, you can use all the magnetic mods that the V1 uses, and with the ADB2 adapter, I can get a 400w/s light by using 2 together. I can also fit them better in smaller spaces in my bag - the flat design means they can stack or fit into the laptop compartment in a bag.
I get that everyone's use case is a little different, but I really don't see the value, considering the 200 and 400. I do agree that the 100 is kind of useless. Cheers
there was a guy at the photo walk that brought two ad200s to do the whole 400 thing.. and it failed him compared to my 300pro that we used high speed sync with for the whole photo walk and came back to the hotel with half a battery.. on paper what you are saying sounds perfect.. but out and about in the real world.. it is the better compact light.. it isn't the 400 but the 400 isn't something i place in my camera bag i bring a whole other case for it.. the 300 actually fits in my camera bag and with the new para snap that glow just released brings even more reasons to switch to the 300.. i will be doing a video on that when i get mine. the 400 and 300 both has the godox mount built into it and when you see how the para snap fold so thin it is something the 200 wouldn't be able to compete with..... Respectfully.
@@RyanTroy I appreciate the reply. And perhaps I don't do as much rapid fire shooting at full or 1/2 power. I can see a case for it for that reason. Personally, I'm happy with the bowens mount, because it gives the most versatility between mods and brands, so I'd definitely have to bring an adapter, rather than get a second set of godox mount mods, but again, I do see the value in a different use case. For my use case, I don't see any advantage to the extra cost and adapters I'd need (or mods I'd have to buy specifically), but at the end of the day, use whatever works best for you to get the job done. Glad we agree on the 100 though :)
@Capture it Photography Well said.
One thing you didn't mention is The Modeling lamp on the AD200 is trash. I have two but I am now in the market to purchase something that can give me more power on that end.
I had AD 200’s but I never liked their handling, yes there are a number of accessories, bare bulb, Roundhead, LED head, etc, but ends up a bulky kit. I switched to the AD300, very satisfied.
i was about to pull the trigger on 2 AD200 units. you've convinced me not to. i have a pair of AD400s and will most likely go with the AD300s now. Thanks, mate! Great work
I haven't used HSS in a while. I got some 3, 6, and 10 stop clip on sensor ND filters by Kase so I can use AD200s in the brightest sun without using HSS or high power. I haven't did a real shoot with the sensor ND filters yet but have learned to use them while shooting family members. It's a great way to reduce carrying gear and still be able to operate in bright sunlight. I do have a couple of AD600BM strobes that I haven't used all year.
How close do you have to be to your subject when using your 200 to get nice soft light in a modifier when using bf filters?
@@RyanTroy For me the 6 stop works best. If I use f1.4 AP I can set my shutter speed under 200th and have the lights about 4 feet away and use very little power
At the end of the day all that matters is getting paid. As long as you're clients are happy and constantly recommend you they don't gaf what gear you use. Just don't break your pockets and can't pay your own bills. I use the ad200 not the pro, the ad600 and a c stand with a deep parabolic. I never complain about the weight. Stay healthy and work hard weight won't matter
What you are saying is pure facts but this is more for people trying to make a decision if you already have the 200 its not to make you ditch it but i would invest into the 300 system though bro!
Weight matters for those of us who are string beans. :(
I've got two AD600PRO and several c-stands and they are not fun to move around.
Man, I am your fan the way you explained the high speed sync. too good. Thank you very much.
Thank you! 😀🙏
Used to own two ad200s. My first experience wasn’t good. It overheated after only 60 to 70 shots. The culprit was using hss which I have come custom to. It is weird since my nikon speed lights didn’t suffer from this and they are outside air cooled just like the ad200. The ad300pro helps tremendously by having a built in fan. The ad100pro also has a built in fan and the larger strobes yet the ad200pro is like a speedlight. The only way I got around this was by putting two together adb2 bracket which made it all to heavy and bulky to travel. I never saw anyone use this setup. I eventually sold it all off.
Yeah i sold my ad200 as well. I am interested in getting the 100 as well..
I love my ad 300, you get the smaller Godox mount and the modeling lamp, plus it’s ultra portable.
Good content, congrats!!! A thing though “the music it’s quite loud and really no necessary, you voice it’s cool 😎 and way better than the music!
Thank you i started to lower my music a little more now.
Great video thanks, I'm looking at the 200 and 300 at the moment and this is the first comparison I've seen that mentions the recycle times and overheating.
Thank you so much David!
Godox Ad200Pro is the most versatile among all Godox Flash because for this two point value for money and size. Given the Ad200/pro has many accessories you can get. like B2,AK R1, H200R etc. when regards to recycle time i barely notice it during any of my event fraction of a millisecond no bigdeal.
Wow I just found you. I have been watching camera -phot videos for years and you just now popped up on my feed. Rock on
Im sold out! thanks for the review. I noticed that as well, the AD200 is not consistent. Ive missed shots due to over heating...Im planning to get the ad300 and use my ad200 for fill and gels....
That would be a great combo. sorry for the late response
I think the most versatile set up is 4 ad200s with the 2 adb2... I rarely need to go to 1/2 anyways. My perfect full set up of flashes is 6 ad200 with 3 adb2, 4 860iis, and 2 ad600 for extreme outdoor light issues(group model shots). I carry 4 ad200s and 4 v860ii at all times. I have 2 a7iii, 2 triggers, and I carry 8 lenses, cleaning kit, and a flashbender, in one backpack bag... NOTHING beats this set up for wanting to be able to shoot anything anywhere. ad300 is nice but it takes up too much space I leave my brackets attached to my light stand... so I never forget them.
Very good video and you have convinced me not to buy another 200 my next unit will be the 300.
Trust me when I say you will be happy!
I keep stumbling on this video, and I vehemently disagree. The AD200 still is the best and most versatile speed light ever. The 300 really isn’t that much more powerful than a 200 especially with modifiers attached. To me, the AD 200 wins because all of the amazing add ons like the R200, S200, the AD-B2 if you need more power, and the bare bulb is clutch in a soft box and getting even lighting. Not to mention the 300 and 400 have their own stupid mount and you have to use the bowens mount converter which is annoying AF especially if you forget it at home. Two AD200s and a couple of AD600bm’s and you are set for any job. I own 100-600 and I gotta say 200 are ALWAYS in my kit no matter what.
thank you so much Ryan. I've been debating to see which one to get AD 200 or AD400. now I totally make final decision to get AD400
I would definitely suggest the 400 over the 200
Hey Ryan. That is a good looking camera bag. Can you please make a review of the bag and how you pack your gear, including the lights? Thanks
Sounds like a great idea! thank you
Ryan, I very much appreciate your delivery and your content. I could do without the background "music" though. I choose to watch a video to learn something, and not to be entertained. You have valuable, honest input for this industry. The internet is becoming today's classroom. But the one thing that you will not find in a classroom is planned background noise. Keep pushing the information. It is much needed.
I have both. I can say the AD200 works better in recycling then speedlights with the flash speedlight extension mounted on DSLR vs normal speedlights. I do HSS a lot in events so it's very useful. AD300 is good as mounted, period.
What an excellent review my brother. Great Video illustration comparing the strobes. You made my decision very easy to purchase the Godox AD300 vs the 200 & 400 and also saved me the precious time I would have to spend watching numerous comparison videos. In addition the cadence of your voice is perfect for instructional videos. Keep producing this great content and representing our community.
Thank you! that really means a lot! let me know how you like it when it arrives!
@@RyanTroy You are very welcome. I will definitely keep you updated.
Thank you Sir and very well presented and explained!!! I have a 200 and can definitely see its limitations. Thank you!
I use 2 ad200 and prefer that.
Thank you so much. I was thinking about get the 200. I already have a 300 and I love it
I have the ad300 & ad 400. I love them. I got the ad 200 a couple of week ago to try with the Magmod system. I don’t know if I like keep it and just use my canon AI flash. But I love watching your video. The ad 300 is my go too. I like the Magmod system, I wish it was a easy way to use it with the ad 300.
Great Video! I was considering the AD300Por and this helped me. Now I do like the AD200 as well. Both provide wonderful features
Good choice!
Agree with you on this, except for portability. The 300 Pro is harder for me to get in my camera bag, if I’m trying to take 2 bodies, 3 lenses, and a flash in a single bag, the 300 isn’t an option. I actually carry my 300 in a second bag with my 600 Pro. SUPER portable. 🤣
I carry my 400 in the bag with my 600 lol I love the bag the 600 came in lol
You speak well about the new product, but if it ain’t broke don’t fix it. My ad 200 has not let me down. But thank you for the knowledge.
Great video I was on edge with buying the 300 but this video helped make the decision a bit easier.
I am in the Godox system but just preordered Rotolight Neo 3 Pros. Looking forward to comparing them.
The ad 300 is a better light no doubt, but for me, I will always use the ad 200, and I don't have a ad300 flash.
Great information thanks Ryan as I hadn't even considered this strobe. Time for another look.
Glad to help
Thanks. I don’t need any other explanations. Just purchasing now.
Thank you for watching!
I just got one from B&H ,it’s amazing, Straight up out of the box I love it!!
Great video!!! this is definitely helping me in making a decision on which way to go.
Glad I could help!
Thanks for this vid bro, I can't wait to upgrade from the AD200 Pro to the AD300 Pro
Man you got a TMIDD setup right there with the ad300 pro and 33.4 in ez lock glow haha. They lied about the deep parabolic part but it is my best modifier still. The major thing I like about the 300 over the 200 is the modeling lamp since I use it indoors and outdoors. If I did it over I would probably go for a 400 over the 300 just to have the extra power if I needed it. Great video bro!
the 400 is nice. i have the 600pro 400pro 300pro 200pro and the V1 they all have their specialties but i find myself never using the 200 pro
@@RyanTroy Once I got the 300 my 200 really became a backup light tbh so I can respect that!
@@TMIDD T to the M to the I to the DD! 😁🥰
Thank you for this video! I'm branching out into off camera flash and had the ad200pro in my cart lol. Looks as if I'll be adding the ad300 pro because I want to set myself up right! Also, you just gained a new follower👍🏾👍🏾
I know im late but i want to say thank you!
How have your strobes held up all this time? Looking to buy my first, but have read some negative things about godox dependability. However it sounds like reviewers were maybe over using their equipment (100's of shoots mentioned).
So I still have this 300. When it falls now I’m safe because I put this silicone protection on the back but when it use to fall the actual strobe would break but you can get replacements of those through Amazon and when I replace the bulb it’s working again. Honestly it’s on how you protect them from falling. If it doesn’t fall it will work for ever in my case and study
@@RyanTroy thanks for quick reply. Reviews i saw on b&h mentioned more battery problems- but this was all good knowledge. If you're still happy 2 years later, i feel safer buying.
I also like it, BUT ad300pro bulb is about 130 dollars, you dont want to break it, like I did :D
sheeeesh.. i broke my ad600 bulb and it was on back order not to mention expensive lol
I use the Adorama version of the AD200 (pretty sure it's licensed by Godox). No problems so far but I can see how the AD300 would be better.
Great video Ryan! Got me considering the AD300 now. Both incredible flashes
A year later the AD200 is still a better flash than the AD300 for most photographers. Right now both on sale, the AD200 pro is $200 less at $ $299. The AD200 has 2 flashes, Fresnel and bulb, that is call redundancy if something goes wrong with one you have the other. The 300 is only a half stop more power. For 600 instead of 500 you can have 2 ad200s and it has all the AK-r1 magnetic, the S bracket that can take two ad200s for double the power (1 stop more) Overheating. The AD200pro states in the manual that the will shoot 40 consecutive full power shots on the Fresnel and 60 full power shots on the bare bulb before it overheats and goes into crippled mode (still fires but at reduce rate), at 1/2 power double that number before it goes crippled mode. Page 40 in the manual is where you can find that info. The AD300 does not have that information. Since I did not think what you were saying was right. I tested it myself on my R5. At 6fps and 1/32 power 1/1000 shutter speed. I would get 8 frames before the flash dropped one frame, then 5 more, drop one frame. This is because the frame rate is exceeding the flashes ability to recycle the flash fast enough. I tested this a number of times and the overheat indicator never came on. But we know any flash in high speed sync the flash loses power. If I were going to use HSS outside, I would use my AD600 or minimally put my 2 Ad200's together in one softbox which would give me as many or more flashes without overheating than the AD300 at $600 with way more flexibility. No one I know only has on AD300 or just one light. That is the only case where the AD300 might be better that just one AD200.
🥹🥹🥹😂😂😂😂😂😂 I’m going to have godox contact you bro. With all this testing you did I would appreciate a video put together for me to watch.. the 300 is a better by itself outside hss flash.. it just is…
@@RyanTroy Not better than the AD600 sorry. For outdoor HSS, ad600 is the master for single light and the 300 is the padawan learner. Two Ad200s will always be better than one AD300. My testing is not scientific, but my own observation and it is good enough for me. I don't need Godox to contact me, they put the specs right in the manual, if you read it you would know you are wrong about the overheating.. and you know it. But good story bro.
For me AD600Pro and AD200Pro are still the best combination. AD300 is just in the middle. It's heavier and bigger for a small benefit.
FYI: I just view MarkusPix video disliking AD300. I think he got the point.
I would have to agree to disagree
Thanks Ryan! This video was really informative and you broke down everything so well.
This is going to my first light set up
Which one should I go with? I usually use natural light for my portrait photography but want to see how I get on with some fill-in light.
Hopefully im not too late. i will always recommend the ad300 pro
@@RyanTroy yes, I'm going to get the ad 300 pro.
Interesting comparison.
Am I missing the credit for the model? Nice to credit collaborators and she seems like a good one.
Cheers!
I have 2 AD300 and last fashion shoot outdoors in NY they would overheat and it was only 65 degrees outside, I had 2 knowing this could happen so switched them out to get by.
your 300s were over heating?
Yes , not even hot outside out in the sun. @@RyanTroy
Maaaaan. Love how chill the explanation is. Great work. Good info. Much love
Excellent video Ryan, I appreciate the info. Keep doing what you do.
Thank you!! more to come
it depends on your creativity will fit any kinds of lights..
Can I use ad300 for interior shooting and architecture shooting ?
Yes, I don't see why not.
What about a funky color cast that ad200 doesn't have?
I never experienced that ..
Great video, Ryan. I've never seen your videos before and never given the AD300 Pro much thought. After watching your video, I might buy one tomorrow. I currently have two AD200 Pros and one AD180 (which was given to me for free).
I just subscribed too. 🙂
I am new into photography just got the the ad200 pro and a tt350. I want to eventually get the v1 to pair with the 200.
nice. its a good place to start!
The AD200 has a Far Better small form factor than this huge light for Outdoor Photography
lol did you just call the ad300 pro huge? lol
I tented to buy the THE AD200 PRO, but strongly rethink it, after your video. So it could be the ad300pro
im actually considering selling my 200 pro lol
I started videography this yr. Still learning , but i wud like to get into photography aslwell. I currently have 3 godox 60ml bi with softboxes. Can i practice using this lights or should i get the a300, is ther a big difference between straight light coming from the 60ml and a flashpoint? Im new in the field.
I don’t have the godox 200 branded one. I have the Flashpoint eVOLV 200 , I do like it .
I like being able to go from speed light to bear bulb . Or a led panel type light .
Thank you soooo much. I'm very drawn to buying the AD300 now.......which transmitter did you use?
i use the xpro trigger
@@RyanTroy cheers
Skip the AD300, and get AD100. The AD100 has same illumination power as AD200 so you dont lose light. But you will lose bulb head for better utilized light modifiers.
AD100 and AD200 with the S-bracket makes eay to use almost anything,but like AD300, the AD100 cant utlize them properly lile AD200 can.
If you use mainly umbrellas and other shoot through materials, and not softboxes and other reflectors, get the AD100.
Forget the AD300 totally.
The AD200 is still best choice of all three if you have more complex lighting setups.
For most cases AD100 is sufficient even by limited round head.
And when you need crazy power, you get AD600 but at that point you must really carry more equipment than anything else.
For events, outdoor portrait and usual life style fashion shoots, AD100. For studios and such, AD200. All rest only as required.
Nice video. I'm with you. I have the V1, ad200, ad300, and ad400. The 300 is my favorite. I just need to see if my Bowens mount adapter off my 400pro fits it. They make a Bowens adapter for the 300 and its the same part number as the one for the 400. I'd rather do that then use an S2 bracket.
If the ad400 enough to balance sun light in harsh time ?
@@kemoomax yes if you have the sun to the subjects back and light the shady side. Which hopfuly you would be doing anyway. There are also ND filters.
They are almost same price, and for those who got ad200, the battery is not the same with ad100. Good for people who just buy their first flash, ad100 will be sufficient, multiple ad100
Looks like good things happen to those that wait...... thank you for your advice in which direction to go on the strobes with our conversation earlier ..... I just purchased both the flashpoint explor 300 pro and 400 pro as a kit with 2 softboxes ..... both for $999 at adorama.....
NICEEEE make sure you let me know how you like it
@@RyanTroy that i shall..... will keep you posted
I bought my AD300 Pro cheaper than my AD200 Pro on a special sale, half the price of an AD200 Pro. I use both in tandem and with a TT600. To me it's not overheating it's just the overheating protection kicks in to prevent damage from overheating.
I love using the AD200 with the extension head. I clip the pack part to the base and it keeps the nightstand more stable. I shoot in the shade so it's enough light for me. I would. like to get my hands on a 300 one day. It's tough getting godox here in Philippines.
what is the popular strobe brand in the Philippines?
@@RyanTroy Godox is the most popular. There is also profoto and Elinchrom. My friend uses broncolor (rich kid).
Thanks Ryan. Something you casually mentioned in this video about wheeling this stuff in your wagon strikes me. Yeah I'm lazy too, or maybe we're both just old enough to know better. Great video!
thanks, your videos its perfect for my capacitive for listen english. I am understand all. Thanks again
Hey Troy, when I listened to your analysis which makes alot of sense I was totally pissed with myself I got the ad200 (not the pro ) rather than the 300 ( didn't even know there's a 300 ) until i just checked the price out and the difference is over $150 between the both.. I guess I will stick with my ad200 && a600bm (manual only).
you should do good with those two as long as the 600 is doing most of the work you should be fine
I wouldn't worry about it. You can do a ton with the AD200. In combination with the AD600BM it's' more than fine.
I love my ad300pro. My go to light over my ad200 and the very heavy xplor600 which weighs so much
agree! its just such a powerful portable light
Thank you for the video. Very informative.
Thank you brother I really appreciate you keeping it 100
Anytime
Should I go with ad 200 of ad300 ?
In my opinion the ad300 pro
Great insight!! Appreciate your efforts!
Thank You!
I like that you made your point in terms of preference and then supported it with facts.
This is beautiful, especially since I am now transitioning to strobe photography. The price difference is quite a point for me but after watching your review, I think I am leaning towards saving to make the 300 my first. Thank you bro
Thank you so much! im glad that you enjoyed it! 🙏
Awesome review and comparison, especially on the recycle time. I don't have the Ad200 Pro, just the Ad200 and it's TRUE about the recycle time. I was at a photo collab and the recycle time was killer :( Especially has 1/1 and 1/2 power. I just looove how portable the AD200 is.
Thank you. The ad300 is portable as well. I think the roundness of it throws people off but if you are looking for another light I suggest it
beautifully explained, I' coming from the age of on camera flash :) so can you please guide me what else I need to buy from amazon apart from the AD300 you meantioned {to work with camera...like trigger , stand etc..if you can share link}