Choosing between the Godox AD200 Pro, AD300 Pro, and AD400 Pro
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- Опубліковано 26 кві 2020
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In this video I offer a rare recommendation into who I think each light will be most suitable for.
I start by making suggestions based on budget alone. With the Godox AD200 coming highly recommended to anyone with a budget of under $400. This is kind of obvious, as the AD300 Pro and AD400 Pro are too expensive.
At a budget above $700, I still recommend AD200's / Flashpoint eVolv 200, although I recommend a kit of 2x AD200's, 1 AD-B2, 1 H200R, and 1 AK-R1 modifier kit. This gets you two AD200's, 2 fresnels heads, 2 barebulbs, and the round head compatible with bounce, snoot, grid, sphere and gels. The AD-B2 allows you to bring together two AD200's for a single, 400w light source that is actually about 1.3 stops more powerful than a single AD200 in an S-bracket, due to the reflective background.
After the budget discussion I make suggestions on lights based on the niche of photography.
For wedding photographers, the Godox AD200 is still king because of it's ultimate compactness, and compatibility with bowens modifiers (using Bowens S Bracket), umbrellas, magmod, and the AK-R1 kit. This gives access to lighting tools that wedding photographers can move around a space quickly.
For solo-subject outdoor portraiture, I think the Godox AD300 Pro / Flashpoint Xplor 400 Pro is the new king. Pairing up with an AD-S65 or AD-S85 softbox and you have a portable lighting tool that will work great even outdoors in bright conditions, at short distances.
As for the Godox AD400 Pro / Flashpoint Xplor 400 Pro, being that it's a bit less portable and lightweight, I think it's better suited to photographers who use larger light sources than are available on the proprietary Godox mount like the AD-S85. To me what sticks out is family photographers or those working with small groups outdoors.
Please leave your comments below if you have a reason why one of these lights works best for your applications!
Robert: AD200Pro, AD300Pro or AD400Pro
Me:
My Wallet: Youngnuo...
:(
Yongnuo is good stuff my friend, good stuff. And so much more affordable than the already affordable Godox.
They too have Li-Ion battery operated speedlights and the YN200 now, a light identical to the AD200. Not sure about its world capabilities though: whether it works with the YN622 series controllers or not. I hope to God it does.
So all isn't lost for those of us with talking wallets 😜
lol I currently have a couple of Yongnuo speedlights and a trigger, and they're pretty decent. That said, I like the fact that Godox/Flashpoint have the same radio system from speedlights all the way up to studio strobes.
Up til now, Godox radio system is killing competition. Even Pocket wizard is way behind.
When I purchased my Godox V1, I took it out of the box, charged the battery, had dinner, went to sleep... then next morning grabed my bag and went out for shooting an event. Not a single look at the manual, all settings/buttons are pretty instinctive and straightforward. The thing doesn't play tricks on you and works all the time... not a single flash missed. My pictures turned out just fine, with minimal adjustment needed.
Then, 6 days later I had another event in an art gallery (with dirty ambiant and spot lights) : same good results.
Can you trigger the Godox AD 200Pro with the youngnuo 200 series triggers ??
Giveaway please
We have three AD200’s to do Weddings. Perfect for the price. I would like faster recycle but I would also like a Porsche. Great video. Thanks 👍
Warning... Porsche cars don't recycle that fast, it's fake news !
😉
I saw a video and they recommend ad300 for those who need faster recycle time.
I think a Toyota gr86 is well enough as well as ad200
I have the dual AD200 head setup as well as a BLAZ300 that I purchased to haul back and forth to studio shoots in Manhattan from my home in Queens. I take the subway to all of my shoots, so size and portability were crucial. Basically, I use a three-point lighting setup with the 200s as my hair and fill lights and the 300 as my key light. In concert, these lights work great. Now that the AD300PRO is out, I am considering replacing my BLAZ for my mobile needs since it's super compact. Obviously, I can still keep the BLAZ as a backup. I also have the Flashpoint Zoom (aka Godox V1) that I can use to light up my backdrops where needed. My thinking is this: start with a pair of AD200's - they're the most versatile and they're really what you need to get started with pro lighting. Get them in a kit with the dual-AD200 kit so you have either 2 200 W/s lights or one 400 W/s light. Then get you a 300 W/s light to meet that middle ground when you need it. Then, you'll have 2 200s, 1 300 and 1 400 effectively. If you need more than that, then you're obviously making enough money from your photography to be able to jump up to a 600/1200 W/s setup. Start small, and as the money flows in, fill out your kit proportionately. And as a rule of thumb, never buy something until you've actually needed it on a shoot at least twice and had to improvise around not having it. Let the gear follow the revenue rather than the other way around.
Wow your 1st minute explanation just resolved all my doubts about getting confused. I will now happily buy the AD200 pro as it fits my budget 😍
Thank you.
I always appreciate you’ve concise and knowledgeable breakdown of light as well as uses of them. Thank you. I am a wedding, outdoor modeling photographer in sunny Miami and although a AD 600 would be best to make quick work before my clients melt and sweat reflection shows I had to settle for a AD 200 and a 860 but I don’t regret it. I think more that lights a wide angle lens where I’m much closer to the subject thus having my light closer is the trick to not spending more money right now since I like having more of the scene and don’t do photoshop yet (I know 😞). I’m struggling to get the output lowered for venues on the aD200 but that’s probably my inability to get that remote to work correctly. Thanks for any input.
You read my mind... I was hoping someone made a video like this. Thanks for knowing your market so well.
Thanks Robert, as usual awesome video and I love your way to explain everyhting.
I have 3 Godox AD-200, 1 AD-B2 and 2 speedlights V860 II so with this kit, I can deal to almost any situation. Paired with a X-Pro trigger, I can control all flashes. Love them ! I still have 3 AD-360 but use them occasionnally.
Thanks for sharing
My godox ad 300 just came in! I love the output it produces!!
So glad I found this today. Can't decide what to buy with the crazy Flashpoint prices this weekend. I own a single 200 Pro and was going to pick up a 400 to compliment it and help with outdoor shooting of large groups (e.g. sports teams) but then I saw the 600 (non-pro) is less than $350! I know it's a lot heavier, but I don't think I'd miss the TTL and it saves money.
Now after watching this, I may just pick up a second 200Pro and the AD-B2 and save my money.
I have the 600BM and 2 AD200 Pros. I can simulate pretty much any lighting scenario I need. All for less than 1 Profoto light. Not a slam, just a fact. Love the Godox ecosystem
I'm loving my Flashpoint strobes and am getting more soon-I have a 600 Pro and a 200 and am planning to get a 600 Pro Non-TTL as a third light next-but I will say the 300W Profoto modeling lamps are super lust-worthy for me. More and more I do wish I could afford Profoto. But the Godox line really is an incredible opportunity to build a studio photography practice without $10,000+ in Profoto gear!
The biggest advantage for me WRT Profoto is their UI. Should Godox steal that idea then Profoto will evaporate.
How is your system outside and for travel? I'm curious as I'm thinking of switching.
I agree Tony I have the same lights and also a V1. It's a great setup for me.
Just curious (not a profoto Fanboy but maybe starting out to get into more professional photography): what happens if you gear fails in one of your shoots with the client? That‘s my biggest fear.... I know it‘s super unlikely but that was said also to harddrives or usb sticks. They failed on me too and I lost tons of photos.. can I rent a profoto then und implement them with the Godox system? The more money you can save the better.
Just ordered the bundle Kit!! I'm so excited
You don’t mess around with photography/culture mess. You give the info as a real person and what people really wanna know. Thank you.
That's the goal, love when it's noticed!
Super helpful. Would love to see a video of how two of the 200’s can be used in supporting roles, such as a hair light and back light to create beautiful 3 light setups.
Such a good, condensed and knowledgeable review. Thanks!
thank you man
you information about godox has always been helpful
Agree! AD200 is the most versatile one. I don’t use my AD600 outdoors that often. But for studio, AD600 is my favourite though.
Always informative! Thanks Rob! I personally use an AD400 & 200 for headshots. The 200 is the main light on a 38inch deep parabolic camera left or right with a v flat bounce and the 400 is on a 51inch umbrella with diffuser (soon to be 60 inch) behind me. Perfect, simple and beautiful outcomes
Hi by any chance do you think the ad200 pro would work for low light indoor portraits, headshots and full body?
@@jasminelaverick5423 hey. Absolutely! It’s a great starter light. As long as your doing headshots or a single person full body you’ll be good. If you want to get the most out of your one light be sure to get a reflector or a v-flat. You can find how to make them for cheap on UA-cam or shoot in a small space with white walls this way you have more light bouncing around
Love the tips. Thank you
Very well done. Knowledgeable, practical advice. I have 3 AD200s and one AD600BM. I almost never use the AD600, the 2 AD200 in the ADB2 plus the 3rd for hair light is enough for most occasions. I only bust out the AD600 if its a large group on a bright day.
I just ordered the 400pro last week for outdoor modeling shoots.
Was thinking between 2x 200pro or just 1x 400pro. Im still very happy with the choice i made and can't wait for it to arrive.
Most of the time i do natural light shootings with the rf 85mm 1.2, but it's time to step it up a notch and get some good lighting :)
I can always add another ad 200pro later down the road, for some back lights.
Thanks for the helpfull tips on the channel!
Great video tutorial. This is extremely helpful in what strobe equipment to add. Appreciate the time and effort in making this, thank you.
Great video, and very informative. I use 1 Godox Ad200 when I shoot a smaller(up to 4 people) family beach portrait, and 2 Ad200's(on either side) when I shoot larger groups. For weddings, with bride and groom sunset portraits, I use 1 Ad200. But for receptions, I use 2 Ad200's set up in opposite corners of the dance floor. I have never burnt through a full battery. I was looking to buy the Ad300Pro until I watched this video. A side note: I occasionally have issues with my Canon EOS R & R6 switching ISO settings when I use the AD200, so I set the ISO max in the camera.
Amazing Video!!! direct and strict to the conclusion, speaking at regular speed no loooooow speech to just fill 15mins of content!!! and the most likeable direct and strict to the answer!!
Thank you so much
I am predominantly a portrait shooter using the AD600 Pro, what you said about the AD300 Pro used to supplement the 600 makes a lot of sense as a fill light. I will invest in this light shortly as it's a no brainer to me. I often shoot with one person helping me but mostly go it solo. Nice video mate.
I took my SK300 strobes to my last wedding and the 2 300 watt strobes almost could light the whole dance floor. Quite nice for a cheep set of lights that I purchased as my photo booth lights (way better than constant lights).
I'm looking at 3-4 AD 400 Pro or AD 600 Pro strobes to have for outdoor use and better layout for receptions/dances.
Wow. Outstanding video. You're an encyclopedia on this stuff.
Great video as always. I bought the extension head for the ad400 and in a bag it acts as a weight on my light stand. Fyi, I did the same for my ad200's and the slinger bags for those. Moves that weight down.
I love the Ad300 Pro, I shoot outdoor night fashion photography, usually with a single subject, sometimes (rarely) 2 so one light is more than enough especially seeing I don't do soft light which requires big power and big diffusion at closer ranges.
I also had the Ad300 Pro fall off taking the whole cstand with it smacking the concrete ground first with the softbox attached, the flash took the brunt of the hit, nothing came lose, nothing flew out and the next day it went through a 670 shot shoot with 0 issues. Looks like Godox really hit the nail on the head with this lamp.
U been ripped off, it is 1/3 of a stop better than the ad 200, the modeling lamp is too weak as well
@@mortezakhobzi3651 k thanks for your input nobody asked for.
Brother, been watching a lot of your videos, thank you so much...
Thoroughly enjoyed and learned from this video. Thx for making the effort Rob! I was nearly as entertained by the comments and learned much from various users experiences. It seems like majority rely on the 2 AD200 Pros. I also get the feeling that those that have a 400 or 600 seem to break it out for group shots. My only light, which I rarely use, is the 860 Speedlight. As I would like to venture into Senior portraits, I could acquire the 300 pro, but be limited in my accessories; acquire the 400 pro, but deal with the weight; or buy 2 200’s and use them separately or in combination to create a 400. Ugh. Decisions decisions. Some people are really good at them. Others like have a tough time sifting through all the endless data and possibilities. Thx again for all your hard work with these videos!! Super random side note: your wife is a crackup. Just wondering how she would have worked-through that “D-league” portion. 😂 😆
You can get frozen with indecision, one of the only negatives of having so many options. Thankfully, they are all solid picks so it's unlikely you'll have regret with any choice.
As for the D-League portion, sometimes she's just outside my office when I'm recording and chimes in with little quips when I'm trying to make a point. She'll be back for the 1200 Pro video!
I m glad I am not the only one always taking ages to decide what I want / need to buy lol
I have 2 ad200 with the dual head. Love it but I’d say every shoot there are a few frames that the flash doesn’t fire. Never had that issue w the original 600.
Thanks! AD200 arriving today!
Thanks for sharing! Adorama should bring their Black Friday sales back during these long social distant days.
I wish they do it
Great review! You definitely sold me on purchasing 2x ad200... I will ve looking into it. If i do I'll make sure to use your link :)
Hey Robert, I looked at selling the Ad200pro, since I've also got the Ad400pro, although your video has really made me change my mind and perhaps hang onto it a little longer... since it offers versitality with as a fill light too. I mainly photograph high fashion products, beauty and families... so versatility is what I require. Unfortunately, during Covid-19, not many photographers are being booked. So thought I'd sell it. But, prices are going crazy for lighting equipment now as most global currencies take a bash. Anyways, thanks so much for sharing! It was definitely a helpful video.
I have 2 ADB2's and 4 AD200's and have yet to find any situation that I couldn't handle. I love them. The only downside for me is the battery life. Although, I did purchase additional batteries to handle that issue. Still considering getting an AD600 as my main key, would be nice in the studio, being able to just plug it in and having faster recycle times. Great video! It really puts them all in perspective.
The AD-360s are now boat anchors!
Great review and Guide, started using Flash and my photography is taken to an other dimension. Use the V860 2x and now considered the 200 pro. 😊 will look up your review on that one.
Real Estate/Portrait work. I use Godox V1-S, and AD200pro with round head kits, AK-R1 kits and Rosco Color gels synced to a XPro-S. I plan to add a AD400 with round head kit in the future.
Very informative, just what i want to hear as an up-and-coming phototog!
Wow super helpful. This is exactly what i was looking for. Im really glad i didnt make any purchase decisions yet. I currently own one AD200 pro and was trying to figure out which one i should get as a 2nd light. I wanted to know the exact differences between these 3 lights cause i dont really habe a specific niche of photography i do (yet lol) so its been challenging to figure out what i should buy next
Godox AD200 PRO not only the perfect choice for wedding photographers, it's also the best choice for product and food photography, especially if you need to go to a certain location, such restaurants or stores.
What is the mount on flash good for?
If you use colored gels and bigger softboxes a lot like I do you definitely want beefier lights as those gels suck a lot of light. I got three AD600 Pros and two AD400 Pros at the moment. Love them!
Watched the first 3 minutes and I knew what to buy, thank you! 😊
Good tips, I’m using an ad400ro pared with an ad200pro with a speed light. I was looking at the 300 to replace the speed light but I feel like another 200pro will be my fill 👍🏼
There it is, I purchased (2) AD200pro's and then added a V860ii for my hotshoe on my D850 if needed
Superb presentation. Answered all my questions. Many thanks 🙏 😊
I mostly capture full body portrait outdoor. So i need to put my softbox far from the subject, that's why, i have chosen ad400pro, i have v860ii as a 2nd light for indoor.
Pure truth, everything he said is the truth. Even before the AD200 I would buy an additional 600 Godox and get the same job done as getting a bigger one. But with all kinds of flex. And as he said your milage varies depending on what you are doing AD200 pro is the end of the line for all my outdoor needs.
If power is your main worry, I'd highly recommend the original AD600. Plenty of power and priced just above the AD300Pro. It can take an extension head and all the weight goes to the bottom of the light stand. For portability it's not the greatest compared to any of the others.
My favourite is the original AD600MB, is the cheapest Power vs Price option, it suits me as I never use TTL, the AD200 my second, so versatile that it’s irreplaceable.
The modeling light makes AD400 the choice for me for studio. I find modeling light vital for studio portraits, otherwise it takes too long time fine tuning light angles. The AD300s 12W modeling light is too dim to be useful when in a softbox. Can't see it unless the studio is dark.
I own two AD200s - best ever portable flash and my all time favorite.
Studiowork on a budget: Godox MS 300.
Thank you Robert, very informative. I use the AD400 Pro for Commercial work alongside the V1. For weddings, I use 2 V1s because they are more portable in a fast moving environment. They are all excellent when combined with the XPro Trigger.
Hey Laurence, thanks so much for sharing this... your comment helped me out too. Thank you :)
Thank you. It would be great to talk about indoor studio, art portrait... I suppose the ad400 is the best, but perhaps also the ad300 with the bowen adapter ?
Thanks for the comparison of these. Very informative. looking for scenarios where you've used these three. If you have a video on that pls point me to it.
I have two AD400pro, one AD200Pro and V1 speedlite. If I was buying again today I would probably make that three AD400Pro and a V1. I'm unmoved by the AD300Pro, appealing though it is, because the AD400Pro is just better at everything. It has serious power and fast recycling. It has a decent modelling LED which is massively advantageous in a studio situation and makes it a true all-rounder, plus it has a battery that can run both the flash and LED for a workable amount of time. Bowens mount comes in the standard kit. All of which also applies to the AD600Pro, but you've got to draw the line somewhere and IMHO that's just too big, too heavy, and more expensive. The AD300Pro is very cute, but falls behind on every aspect of performance and by the time you've added a stand and softbox (and S2 bracket?) not to mention a camera bag and tripod etc, a couple of pounds weight saved isn't going to make much difference.
true, i have the AD360 with larger batery and its a work horse as well but it has slow recycle time and no modeling led and cables. That is actually making a problem for me time to time . Im shooting mostly family sessions outside. Do to the slow 2s recycle time i have missed some pretty nice monents. :/
@@joeblack4026 are you using the Y adapter ? I also use these lights when I dont need the 600s or other plug inmonolights or power pack strobes. The Y adapters help, but maybe not enough. I wonder if ou can use the Y adapter with 2 different batteries and further increase recyc speed?
i think the ad300 is good if you need portability . You can fit two ad300 pros where you could only fit one ad400. Also i think the ad300 is a great light if you need it as an adition for the 400. Maybe keylight or so on
Hi, yeah I was just about to order 2 AD300Pro, mainly for rim lights and such. I often felt like my AD200Pro would tap out as the rim light is usually further from the subject, at least in most of my use cases. And I see now that even with the lower bulk, it wouldn't provide much of an upgrade. Thanks for your comment, I will get 2 more AD400Pro!
This comment helped me make my decision just now! Thanks! I've been using AD200 Pros, and need more output and fast recycle sometimes. I've been leaning to the 400 Pro because of cost/value ratio over the 600's, and perfect info! Thanks!
Hello from Kyiv Ukraine. I own 4 AD200, 2 ADB2 mounts. For me this is extremely versatile and light weight. I use them with the Ambitful 120cm and 90cm deep parabolic soft boxes which also use double diffusion (these softboxes are excellent, well made and are identical to the Aperture but cheaper). I also have 4 extension heads so I can mount two AD200 units at the base of the stand with sudio clamps that have a spigot and the heads in the soft box on the ADB2. The reason for this is to protect the units should a gust of wind blow the light over. I chose these lights over the 400 and the 600 because of flexibility. I also use 3 Rotolight Neos and 1 Rotolight Aeos because I find these best for evening and night shoots and also an LED RGB panel to be creative. I have 2 Godox TT685S that I use for added effects to illuminate objects in the back ground and I have 2 60 x 60cm softboxes for these. I find with the lights I have mentioned I am able to shoot in all scenarios indoor and outdoor without buying 400s or 600s and carrying such heavy gear around.
Thanks for sharing your perspective!
im getting back to phptpgraphy after a decade and i wish this existed back then... 2-3 speedlights didnt do much outside ...this is great!
For me and why I like Godox.
860ii or v1. Kicker lights for highlights or emphasizing something in the scene.
Ad200 can light in medium sun outside, night outside or fill outside.
Ad300. The tiny mount godox modifiers for travel.
Ad400. Hss at a decent power outside
Ad600. Larger modifiers outside daylight. Inside huge fill.
Ad1200 hss to make daylight look night. Ringflash option with hss, yet to be released. Action stopping.
AR400 ringflash. Larger flash head can be used alone for fill. Limited hss shots though.
The #1 reason for Godox. You can intermingle all of them and still adjust everything at camera. With more battery power then I need for 1 shoot. Usually 2 shoots with power to spare.
It's going to be crazy to see just how many lights are on this X series when they (if ever) move onto something different. It's already insane.
I just got the AD300 pro (Evolv 300) to go with my Evolv 200 pro I will probably get another 200 pro once I sell some older equipment. Thanks for the info.
Robert, Robert, Robert!!!!!!. I love your videos sir 😂. Man, this video has answered every question I have regarding the Godox-Flashpoint line of flash. I have an AD200 pro and was considering a second portable flash. You really summed it up for me. I was considering a second AD200 however I though the AD400 would be the best choice..I love everything about the 200 and now have the confidence to purchase a second one..Thanks for the info bruh. God bless.
Although my english is very weak and i did not get the main point from the video but your comment solved my problem i think i understood that 200 is perfect for mid users 😬
Thanks for this amazing video!!! This was the confirmation I needed.. 2 x ad200 + adb2 will be a better purchase than an ad300pro.
awesome review! and the first review I found to give advice on a light for family shoots not just individual portraits. You recommend the AD400 for family shoots, is this because the AD300 pro cant produce enough power using a bigger modifier outdoors? usually my families are 4-5 people close together.
Love the podcast dude, I went with a B10 and A1X. I found all this godox mounts and accessories just too complex and went F it. Ouch.
Hi Robert thanks for the amazing video!! Could you advise on what Godox lighting system set up you would choose for newborn photography? I likely will use large Deep Umbrella (165cm).
I wanted the 400 Pro but here in Mexico was quite expensive then gravitated towards 300Pro and one day before buying it decided to check out on Adorama… finally got my 400 for the price of the 300Pro here in MX 💖
"I put the info in description, if you need it don't have to watch the video" Was enough for me to subscribe to your channel
Great clarification about range of godox flash
I have two ad200's and two ad600's. The 200's are incredibly veristal, fit in bags better (than a round head). They are the perfect light for weddings / run and gun type of shoots, or any kind of action sport shoot where you don't have to directly compete with direct sun.
Got the Ad200 with your group buy....love it 👍
Hey Rob. I started off with a 600pro with the mindset that I always wanted enough power. Now I have 200’s, 400pro and 600pro. I find myself using 200’s the most and 400 only when I need more power. You can’t beat the round heads for the 200 with the accessories. Love how easy they are to gel. So versatile
Yea Greg I started off on the same path with the AD600pro first for the power. As I learned more about proper exposure I realized the AD200 was suitable for most shoots. And then Adorama has a blitz sale and I did pick up the AD400pro. I use the 400pro for a multi light set up. All in all very happy with the Flashpoint system.
Hey Greg for church work which one would you go with?
@@royaltykidstv what type of church work? Are you taking photos during service? I wouldn’t use any flash during service. Just use a hood prime lens if you need more light. I use my 85 f1.4 or my 135 f1.8 so I don’t need flash during services.
@@noun_photography so yes I don’t use flash during, but I do need it after church is over for family church pictures to get the altar and everything behind the altar.
@@royaltykidstv 2 ad200’s would serve you well
Just got a second AD200pro and a 400pro. This is my studio setup for key light, back ground light (1-2) and a hair light. I think thill last me a very long time. The 600 felt too big and expensive for space/ budget. Looking forward to trying em out
Thanks for the great info! I'm an architectural and garden photographer and want to work OCF into my workflow. While most of my images are static, I will sometimes work with models for lifestyle shoots to better create context in the environment. Since I also need something portable as I travel to various locations, I feel like the AD200 pro is the best value for what I need. However, I can see having something with more reach might be nice for getting the light out of frame. Do you have any recommendations for this application? Thanks so much!
OMG dude your beard is BEAUTIFUL. But great video, i might go with the AD400 as an all arounder since i cant get multiple lights and dont usually have assistants.
It really is lol
Super helpful video sir, well done!
Robert, Excellent video. I primarily shoot glamour/boudoir in studio or hotels, but occasionally an outdoor swimwear or fashion shoot. Right now I own 2x Flashpoint xplor 600 pros and a 400 pro (ad 600 pro and 400 pro equiv). But they are too unwieldly to take with me in luggage, or lug down to a beach. Would say 1 or 2 AD 200's or 300's be more than enough light for a hotel suite, shower, or even occasional sunset beach shoot? I probably would not be trying mid-day HSS with them, but if they can handle that too, all the better. I just need something more portable than the 600's...they weigh a ton! Thanks!
Great video as always. What do you think about using gels I the ad300 and ad400? Is there any easy solution? With the ad200 it is easier because of the magmod sistem or rogue gels. Thank you!!
Got two ad200 pro's and they amazing. And got 3 ad400 pro's (1 as a spar) and that's all I need for portraits. Got the 400 for the constant lights, but I have to agree with you on the extra weight. Just yesterday my umbrella and ad400 took a dive because of some wind. I should have bought the H400b with me, so the battery can hold down the stand and it is less top heavy. Buying the ad300 doesn't make any sense to me, because the ad400 is so versatile.
Thanks for sharing what works best for you
Happy New Year Robert ! .... my 2 queries are :-
1) will the AD-B2 support 1 AD 200 & 1 AD 200 PRO together ? or will it cause the ADB2 to malfunction ?
2) does the ADB2 support the AD200pro ?
thank you for the reply in advance !
Awesome video, helped me a lot on my decision
Hi thanks! For all the useful information you provide . I recently took my AD200 and newly purchased 860 II leaving the trigger home but I could not trigger ad200 wirelessly .. both were on the same channel 1 .. 860ll M ttl on the camera , AD200 ch1 , grp A ttl and also tried manual too .. appreciate your help in advance!
We can count on Robert Hull to be highly technical. He must come from an engineering background like me. On thing to point out- the larger flashes have quick recycling time because they are using less percentages of power on a bigger battery
Now here I thought I would get a second ad200 pro but then you suggested ad300 pro for senior photographers! Hmmmmm would love to know what others use most! TIA
nice tuto. i was hesitating between ad400pro and a magbox system with two ad200pro. I think i am going to choose magbox
I grabbed the ad400 and the 2x ad200 bundle from adaroma and I love them
Thanks for you honest reviews
so would you recommend two ad200 pro's for product photography and maybe some outdoor portraits during sunset/golden hour?
'2 light is better than one' is very important msg that you should have said it earlier, I could have taken calculative decision. I stuck with 1 ad400. After the covid lockdown I will have to spend another bucks for ad200.
The video I've been waiting for
Hi Robert! I recently took a workshop that pushed the use of the Profoto B10 Plus. We shot outdoors from early morning on into mid-day sun. They were very dramatic photos and I'd like to purchase at least 2 Godox flashes so I can begin offering this style of photography to my seniors and maternity clients. Can I get by with the AD 400 Pro or would I need to look at beefier options from Godox to keep pace with the B10 Plus for that style and setting?
Good video with a lot of information. It seems a significant way they could make this alternative a standout in the lineup would be to allow an a/c connection for situations where power might be available and either you run out of charged batteries or you need to use it all day on a longer shoot. That coupled with a more usable modeling lamp would make this one distinct in the lineup instead of a half step in between the 200 and 400. That along with a possible godox adapter that would be easier to add a flush Bowens mount would be huge. Thanks again.
Could you do a review on the Neweer Q3 and equivalent models to the Godox? Would love to hear your thoughts on it and how they compare to Godox.
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I've made my decision for the 300pro because I shoot both indoor and outdoor portraits and it seems to be the safest investment cause it's in the sweet spot in price and power
I currently have x2 tt685o (Panasonic)
Along with the godox propac pb960 they work fine but the bulk can be very annoying 😒
I then bought the MS300 and it works fine but having to plug it in is also annoying when I want to move about outdoors
Neewer 600 watt does fine for me for all outdoor shoots and indoor but they lack a universal trigger. So I got a Flashpoint Trigger for for my speedlight and AD200.
I've mentioned before how I wish Godox would invent a common battery that all their lights could use, like power tools. If an AD600 needs more power than the AD300, they just allow the batteries to be stacked. Lots of solutions, see Milwaukee M12 & M18 examples, and this would keep everyone in the Godox ecosystem because they adopted that "battery system". Right now if I want to add AD1200's, there is no incentive to stay with Godox as nothing from the AD300, 400, or 600 carries over.
Yeah, that idea would have had to of been established with their first product. It would be really nice but I'm just not sure how well it could work with the various sizes. I think the designs would be too compromised whereas power tools all meet at the handle.
I also don't think Godox is trying to make lights for people to own every version (vs the idea that each power tool has s unique purpose). Instead the broaden their lineup to appeal to unique applications of various photographers.
That being said it's a great concept for a future system if design/compactness wasn't trashed in the process.
The Milwaukee M12 & M18 are two different size batteries for two different sets of tools. Yes, both the M12 & M18 systems have drills, saws, etc., but they are different sized and different powered tools each pertaining to a certain task just as the AD200 vs AD400 vs AD600. Each light has a purpose and thus a battery that can provide efficient power for that purpose just like the M12 (12 volt power source) vs M18 (18 volt power source). If you make a battery large enough to power the AD600, it'll be too large to make the AD200 a convenient on the go flash and if you make a battery smaller to power the AD200 and sustain portability, you loose the power needed to recycle the AD600, hence the different battery sizes. I know it can be a pain in the butt, but each tool has it's purpose and thus it's own battery to best suit it.
ive been using the 860 for a few years now but want to step up for a few reasons so thanks i think 2 of the 200's will work for me
Awesome, I've got to upgrade my ad100pro to a ad300 for sure
Awesome video. So i basically shoot boudoir and fitness. And shoot both these indoor and outdoor. I am stuck in between choosing the ad200pro and the ad300pro. Yes i am on a budget but should i invest the little more to ger the ad300pro or will i be fine with the ad200pro. I plan to use the strobe i choose with a 102cm octobox.
Super helpful! Thank you!
Thank for this great video. Is the AD-B2 compatible with the AD200Pro?
Very illuminating😉 , but when we talk about budget, I think the 600BM is the great forgotten, I think it is rarely taken into account and I don't think the TTL module is worth it in a AS600/Pro. I think with the "BM" you can have a "600" cheaper than a 400Pro, don't you think so?
Great videos! I already have one AD200. I find in some situations it lacks during real estate photography, particularly in large rooms. I thought about the AD400, however I like the idea of using two AD200s. I also want to be able to use a 7' umbrella or soft box in sunny situations for family portraits. Thoughts? Thanks!
2 ad200s + AD-B2 is effectively the same light output as a 400 pro, so if you're gonna stick with one light source in real estate that'd be the cheaper route. And they'll perform the same in a 7 foot umbrella.