Beginner's Guide to: Weathering with Oil Paints! (4 Great Techniques!)
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- Опубліковано 27 чер 2024
- Hey guys, Modelling Weekly here! In today's video, I'll be providing the basic information about using oil paints on your models, along with 4 nice techniques that will make your builds pop! I hope you find it helpful!
OIL PAINTS FAQ:
Q: Are oil paints toxic?
A: No, unless you have an allergy to linseed oil. You have to be careful with the thinner though, as some can be harmful to your health (e.g. White Spirit).
Q: Do I need a varnish layer before using oil paints?
A: Sometimes, though I would apply a varnish all the time just to be safe. Some paints require it (such as acrylics), though hybrids such as Tamiya do not necessarily, though it's good to be safe.
Q: What can I use to clean or thin oil paints?
A: Products such as white spirit, or designated oil thinners for artists or modelers are good things to go to.
Q: How long do oils take to dry properly?
A: Between 24 to 48 hours, though most of the time it's fine to leave oil weathering to dry for around 2 to 3 hours before applying a varnish over the top.
Q: Is it OK to apply oil paints with synthetic hair brushes?
A: Yes! Brushes that use natural hairs (such as Sable) generally blend the oil paint nicer, though if you want to go cheaper then synthetic hairs are perfectly fine and usable.
Q: Do I need to remove excess oil from my oil paints before using them?
A: Again, it's not necessary, though highly recommended. Draining a lot of the oil from the paints before using them makes them easier to blend, and also decreases their drying time.
Q: Should I apply a sealing varnish layer over the top of my oil weathering?
A: Only if you wish to apply more enamel/oil effects on top of the weathering, without disturbing your previous work. Otherwise, oil paints will dry to a tough and dry finish after you leave them for 24 to 48 hours! NOTE: Some acrylic varnishes don't stick very well to oil paints. Xf-86 and other Tamiya Hybrid varnishes work for me though, so you could try them.
Thanks for watching the video! If there is anything you want to know, or anything you want me to know feel free to ask!
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Frequently asked questions in the description! I hope you guys find this helpful!
Quick question, once I’ve applied oils to a model such as the dot effect should I leave them for a bit or can I go straight into blending?
@@jpw1812 You can go straight in for blending! Same goes for any streaking or highlights, its ready to go as soon as you apply the paint!
@@ModellingWeekly ok thanks!!
Hey there, I read in the description that you said you can put a varnish over oil weathering effects, I've heard that specific varnishes (such as acrylics) will NOT stick to oils, I just don't want anyone to ruin their model. Anyways great video. You are one of my favourite modelling You Tubers (I have no idea why you don't have more subscribers)!
Cheers, Jake
@@Jake-jw3sk that's a very interesting point! I haven't experienced the issue myself, though I'll correct the description now! Thanks!
Thanks! I love your explanation of these techniques: I'm doing my first model since I was a teenager and the first one I've ever done any weathering on. Looking forward to trying these out.
Glad you could fine it useful 😄 good luck with your future models!
Very informative and helpful, thanks for sharing
Lots of information here! Thanks for sharing! I’m new into modeling and these informational videos are great for learning. (I should say I’m new back into modeling, did models when I was a kid. Now that I’m retired, I find it a very relaxing hobby!)
Glad you find it helpful! It's very true, it's a very relaxing hobby!
Nice Toutorial! Helps me a lot. I'm building models for over 16 years and never tryed some ot the techniques u are presenting here.
Excellent, Thank you for sharing great tips.
If you use odorless thinner instead of white spirit or zippo fluid, you do not have to varnish the surface as long as the paint is cured. In fact, it does not damage the decals either although you may need to locally varnish to blend in the decal film. Eduard decals, when the film is pulled, do not need any protection. It not only saves time and varnish but the paint surface reacts nicely with the oil paint. This technique definitely works wth an acrylic paint base.
Good stuff 👍
Just bought some oils to use so perfect timing ,thanks again for your tips, they are much appreciated
No problem! Enjoy your oils 👍
Very nice tutorial, I will just add two tips. First, not go cheap with oil paints. Better oil paints are expensive indeed, but only for artists, because we as plastic kit modelers use typically such a miniscule amount that a single tube will probably last forever. The second tip, instead of using artist's white spirit which can be expensive and difficult to get by, there is a good alternative of using zippo fluid (for lighters). It has very practical packaging for dispensing small well controlled amounts, it works well, costs almost nothing (like 2 USD per 5 oz) and is available pretty much everywhere.
And it's safer. Used model-grade white spirit on a model, the paint came off.
So would you say skip Winton and go straight for Artist range by Winsor and newton?
Best video I’ve found on oils!!
I’m going to use them on my Tamiya 1/32 Corsair!!!
Can’t wait to get to that stage!
Really happy you found it useful mate! Very good luck on your build 😄
Super helpful! Thanks very much
Amazing. Thank you. Very inspiring. I bought a set of oils from hobby lobby. I want to try this out on my Red Baron Fokker Dr.I. thank you again.
Great information here! I have just started trying oils for some weathering so this video should be extremely helpful.
I'm glad it was helpful for you 😄
Thanks , great simplistic approach. Others try to teach but go on and on .keep up the great work ✌🇨🇦✌
Thanks! That was very much the intention, so I'm very glad you recognised and appreciated that! :D
I really have to thank you, I'm stsrting om the scale modelling world and Oil weathering and weathering by itself looks really complicated. But your video makes it look fairly simple and breaks it down enough so even a rookie like myself can actually fe motivated to try these effects out.
I'll be sure to try these, thanks and great video!
Very glad you found the video helpful, glad to help! :)
Thank you!This video help me a lot
Great tips for all modelling skills. As a not so beginner modeller it's really good to refresh those techniques that are often forgotten....so, thanks for providing them!
No problem! Glad you were able to benefit from the video!
Great tutorial, thanks a lot.
great tecniques! thank you
Well done, thank you.
I have tested a few flat varnishes for a base coat to do oil weathering on and I can confirm that XF-86 works great, it's the best for oils that I tested yet. I thin 1 part xf-86 to 2 parts mr color leveling thinner for the best results. Thinning with Isopropyl Alcohol leaves it chalky and thinning with X20A leaves it rough and blotchy. Mr color leveling thinner has the absolute best result with xf-86. As far as using oils over it, it's great, the oils grip well to it and they level out, even out and blend beautifully on it. I've used other flat varnishes that were just a little too smooth and trying to blend oils was very difficult be cc'd cause they would just slide around too easily. Xf-86 doesn't have this problem. The quality of the surface you're putting oils on is just as important as the quality of the oils themselves and your technique. Using the wrong surface can give you lots of headaches but using the right one makes it easy and fun.
Great no BS video. That soldier was amazing.
Thank you :)
Wonderful presentation. Thanks for shooting and sharing. Mr. Bezos thanks you for the free plug.
My pleasure 😂 glad you enjoyed
Great informative video! I'm actually going to give it a go on the same airfix spitfire, mines just in the SAAF colours.
Nice! Glad you found it helpful :)
Great job! This is so, so helpful! Amazing figure by the way, very nice. Have a great day!
Glad you found it helpful! And thanks! The figure is coming in a video next week .. 😄
Thank you thank you thank yoy
Finally a spot -on , simple,ordered and easy to follow tut. Can you please make a few more regarding wwathering with oil paints ?
Glad you found it useful! I will definitely do a more advanced one in the future :D
thank you for this video, I'll have a go tomorrow
No problem 👍
Acrylic paint isnt affected by white spirit once dry and depending on what you are doing, a gloss varnish allows the oils/enamels to flow around details better
A gloss varnish is great for a wash, if your intention is to not blend it at all - for any kind of blending or other kinds of oil weathering, a satin or Matt coat is essential
Excellent video! Just about to venture into oils so this will help immensely! New sub from me 👍
Thank you so much, glad the vid can help 😊
Great information - excellent voice audio in the vid!
Thanks! 😄
I feel like I already watched this - but also feel like I havent lol! If i do some oil washes in the future I'll try and remember to link back to this
Do you need to seal the oil paint highlights with a clear coat , also how long do you need to let oil paint dry ?
Good video you answered a couple of questions I had about Oils , Acrylics and enamels.
Depending on the amount of oils you've applied, anywhere from 12 hours to 2 days is required for them to dry. For light weathering, I tend to cheat and go for about 6 hours, but 12 hours is recommended. If you're doing more work over the top, a clear coat is necessary - and it's recommended even if you aren't :)
Thanks for this. I've just returned to aircraft kits after a 30 year hiatus and this was really helpful in getting a grasp of oils. Any advice on how to use oils to recreate smoke/streak effect around gun ports/barrels to represent them having being fired?
No problem! Your best bet for this is making use of a similar technique to the streaks I did in this video, however with a dry blending technique instead. On a satin base layer, apply small specks of the oil at the start of where you want the smoke to start, and then drag it backwards with a soft brush and circular motions so you sort of create a blended smoky effect. Might take a few tries to get the effect you want, but should look good in the end! Best example I have of this is in my Eduard 1/48 mitsubishi zero build video where I use this technique on the wing mounted machine guns :)
@@ModellingWeekly Awesome! Thanks so much. Will check out the video and then give it a whirl!
Capillary action with oil paints works best over a layer of gloss varnish in my experience , the shine of which is ultimately cancelled by a layer of matt varnish used for the final sealing / varnish layer , after your decals and weathering has been applied .
For a wash that's true, but a Matt layer is optimal for any sort of oil weathering other than that, plus the wash still works fine with it in my experience
@@ModellingWeekly Oh i did mean for a pin wash / panel lining indeed !
I still have to try out a bunch of other techniques as i'm mostly into wargaming miniatures such as Warhammer , and nailing a fitting style for tanks in that universe is "hard" . Too realistic weathering looks out of place , not realistic enough doesn't look good either ...
@@Tomcat_Coyote all good! And good luck with your future endeavours haha!
Nice tutorial, specially the tip about putting oils on a cardboard before mixing them with the white spirits.
Thanks for the info. After applying the oils do you spray on flat coat or gloss to seal in your work?
You can if you wish, though after 2 or 3 days they will be properly dry (This depends on the quality of the paint, as some can be 'oilier' than others so to speak). I always seal mine no matter what just to give some extra protection. If you plan to do another layer of weathering on top, then you must seal the first layer.
Thanks for a nice primer on weathering. I'm working on a USN catapult launched Kingfisher OS2-U 3 in "bright sea blue" livery. Can you make recommendation regarding colors/technique to imitate the whitish, chaulky look of sun-damaged dark blue paint?
I'd say the best way to do this is to literally use white oil paint, possibly off white, to hint at patches of sea salt that have deposited on the plane. I've seen it done before and it looks pretty effective if used sparingly. An alternative would be to add some pretty heavy preshading and post shading in the areas you want the effect to be, so it looks like the structure is showing through
you know what mad respect for including if you dislike do a thumbs down and explain, honestly just love the interest in feedback
Thank you :) I'm only here to learn and inform, so I aim to do that to the best of my ability and negative feedback can help if necessary!
Cardboard you say, hmmmmm. Good tip. I continue to learn. Cheers for that. Very clear and accessible tutorial. Thanks
Glad you could take something from the vid( thanks for watching 😄
I'm going to try weathering. If I've used acrylic paint for base layer is it ok to use an acrylic matt varnish as barrier between the oil efffects or does it have to be an polyurethane for example. Cheers
An acrylic Matt varnish should in theory be ok, but it's always good to do a test run just in case if you're in any doubt
Hi i have just two questions i saw on the internet that its posible to do squash efect whit tamyia and few drops of thinner and the second question is how to apply decals? Thank you for any response and btw great video
Heya :) I'm not quite sure what you mean by squash effect, do you have a video you could link?
In terms of decals, my top tip would be to buy a bottle of micro set, and a bottle of micro sol - they're fantastic. Micro set helps the decal stick to the surface, and micro sol is applied later on to soften it into the surface details. If you search "micro sol and set tutorial" on UA-cam there should be a lot of material to work with! Other than that, just take your time and maybe do a few practice runs on a throwaway model if you have one :)
Super nice tutoriel. Just a silly question, when blending for the shadow or the streaks, is the blending brush dry or dipped into white spirit ?
Nope, just dry blending! Good question!
@@ModellingWeekly thanks ! Much appreciated
Rookie here....what is the benefit of using a matt coat (xf-86) over just the regular clear tamiya has? I thought the gloss clear made it easier to work with the wash and streak and clean what you dont want off the model?
Gloss is fantastic if you don't want to blend or manipulate the wash in any other way than just wiping off the excess when you're done - this is because the surface is extremely smooth, so it doesn't have anything to grip onto apart from surface features like panel lines (so it's great if you just want to do a panel line wash)
On the other hand, a Matt coat is pretty rough on a nano scale, allowing the wash to grip better, and allowing for easier blending and manipulation on the models surface :) hope this helps!
Thanks for sharing your skill....this great....btw what is "White Spirit" ?...is they thinner or what?
Yup, white spirit is a type of paint thinner and cleaner!
@@ModellingWeekly oh ok, thank you
Great stuff. So, experts, what if the panel lines are raised?
Unfortunately there's not much you can do with raised panel lines :( it's possible to apply it to one side of the panel line, however removing the excess is much harder as you have to manually keep it in place with the brush, maintaining the placement of the wash.
I have a b17 bomber that's a bit too dark do you think a dot filter in white and green and yellow would lighten my olive drab Matt Finnish or gloss it first
That could potentially work, using white spirit to blend in the dot filter, however my best recommendation would be to use an airbrush to spray a highly thinned layer of a lighter olive drab, bringing up the overall brightness in a uniform way - this is known as a colour filter, or colour grading. If you don't have an airbrush however then a dot filter could definitely help to bring up the brightness to a certain extent :)
I just airbrushed an armor model (1/35) with craft acrylics (I am doing a test with them, i usually use Tamiya acrylics.)
Can i apply your technics the same way on it?
Thxs
I'd personally apply a layer of Matt or satin varnish beforehand to be safe, but after that you should be fine yeah
@@ModellingWeekly would “Dullcote” work?
Thxs
@@vaindioux any varnish should be fine so long as it has the time to fully cure - do you have a link to this product? Not familiar with it
@@ModellingWeekly I have been using it for 20 years.
When model is all finished, you spray it and it gives it a real nice flat look.
Also it hides a bunch of modeling imperfections .
I don’t know how to post a pic or link here.
@@vaindioux if you know it and it's reliable then I don't see why not - probably worth trying it out with oils on a test model beforehand though, just to be on the safe side
Hello! I have a question about oil paints and washes based on them.
I have come across models where these techniques were used and they were greasy in touch, even though it had been weeks since they were completed. Several of my friends have also encountered the problem that the satin/matt varnish applied at the end of the work cracked where it came in contact with the oil paint (even if they applied it after few days of drying time). Here, from what I've known it's because oil paint can release gaseous substances over time and that may be reason for this happened. I paint mostly miniatures for gaming purpose, sometimes something for dioramas (and I want to try some scale models) and have never used oil paints before. I would like to expand my workshop with them. However, I'm afraid to have similar experiences I mentioned above. What could be the reason for such greasy feel and cracking of the paint applied on oil paint? How to prevent this from happening? Have your models also become greasy to the touch after years or do you not have this problem. Can oil paint react with paints applied previously? Please help :-)
Hi! I can't say I've had this problem before. Oil paints are fairly inert, so I doubt it's reactions with previous layers that is the issue. My best guess as to why this is happening is either because the oils have separated in the tube, or because they have not been applied to a piece of cardboard or a napkin before hand. Another likely cause could be mixing the oils with a substance that isn't soluble in them - water, lacquer thinners, acrylics thinners, amongst others, shouldn't be mixed with oils. Though I doubt this is the cause of the issue. My best solution at this point is to hop on my discord, and post a message in the help-centre section, where you might be able to find someone with similar issues! I really hope it gets sorted for you mate
As someone who's new and have lil to no idea about paintings/paints,
Can I not use Enamel colors for panel line washes? does white spirit not help wipe out the enamel colors?
Absolutely, you can! Oils allow for blending however, which enamels don't - it's up to you
I've painted with oils on canvas, and it takes forever to dry. How long does it take to dry with this method? Thank you so much!
Because it's a very small layer of paint you're applying on the model, most oil weathering methods will be ready for a spray-on varnish after ~6 hours, and will otherwise be rock hard within 24 hours (if you wanted to brush paint a varnish over the top)
@@ModellingWeekly Thank you so much for the video, and for the fast response!
@@Jimmy-sb3fc no worries!
Will this work with acrylic tube paint
Harrier! When we will see full build video!? )
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Morning, after one applies a wash should you clear coat before the streaking??
So long as the oil paint used for the wash dries properly, it's not strictly necessary to clear coat. The situation where I would clear coat within the weathering process however is when highlighting, as the highlights are susceptible to mixing with the wash colour and becoming muddy :)
@@ModellingWeekly thank you
Is it also possible to thin down the oils with the tamiya X-20A thinner?
Unfortunately not, this is a dedicated thinner designed for the tamiya acrylic range :) artists oil thinners or plain white spirit are ideal
@@ModellingWeekly alr gotchu, im just getting into thinners and this was a great vid. thx for the quick response(:
@@natsirtboy4548 no problem :)
after using oils would you apply a clear coat varnish again
I tend to yeah once they're fully cured after a couple of days, just to seal them in
Hi, I am new to modelling, what colours would you start with for WW2 model aircraft . Thanks.
If you're talking oil paints, I think a good brown, black and white should cover you most of the time. In terms of just normal paint, it really depends what you plan working on. There's so many specific shades that it's hard to choose. I'd look into the schemes of some kits you'd like to build, and then choose paints based on those. A good tip is to also choose schemes on kits with similar colours, just so you don't have to buy too many new paints per kit
@@ModellingWeeklythank you for your reply, It is the oil paint I was thinking about, so thank you. I will give it a try .
Can you use any substitutes for white spirit, such as rubbing alcohol?
You can use products like VMS weathering carrier, odourless spirits and other white spirit clones, but unfortunately due to the chemical makeup of oil paint you can't use different types of chemicals
@@ModellingWeekly ok thanks!
Isn't white spirits similar to mineral turpentine? So White spirits won't dissolve the varnish?
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I`ve invested in a bunch of Abteilung 501 oils but haven`t used them yet. A bunch equals roughly 30 tubes. So are they any good?
Abteilung is a very good brand! Good purchase 👍
@@ModellingWeekly How do you know it is good or bad?
@@blle3110Because I use them now, this video is getting on in age now haha
Can I use these super soft make up brushes for blending?
Yup 😊
The final technique is also called a 'filter' I believe.
I think you are correct!
Sir hi, please tell me in what ratio do we apply Matt or Gloss varnish mixed with water to our models ? Do tell me.
Thinning ratios in honesty depend heavily on a lot of factors, including whether or not you plan to spray it, what brand, what type, what surrounding air temperature there is, so the best thing to do is experiment on a test model if you can :) (all my paints and varnishes are thinned by eye)
Hi i have email colors from revell. can i use oil paints to weather or do thdy destroy my colors
When working with oils/white spirit on top of enamels, I'd definitely lay down some kind of varnish (doesn't really matter what) just to protect the paint from any damage :) that really goes for any kind of paint, but enamels in particular as white spirit is a type of enamel thinner
Do you put the decals on prior to weathering, or after?
Always prior! Allows them to integrate with the rest of the model. Make sure to lay down a varnish first though.
So put down the varnish add the decals, then varnish again and finally weather the project?
@@terrihathaway7285 exactly right!
A lot of people use Abteilung oils when cheap oil paints works as good as expensive when most of it are being streaked down anyways.
Abteilung in fact ARE in the low quality range. Good enough for modelling but no comparison with high end or even above average stuff. I didn't know until I had my mum who is a professional artist compare them with her gear. We had a good laugh.
Odourless thinners are worth the investment
For sure! White spirit is some nasty stuff!
It wont eat your paint as much indeed
what do you clear coat over oils with?
You can do it with essentially any modeller-branded varnish! My favourites are tamiya acrylics, Mr color GX lacquers, and I believe tamiya lacquers are pretty good as well - though can't confirm this as I haven't use those in particular yet. The key is to let them fully cure before working on top of the varnish layer
Does Tamiya TS80 spray can flat clear work same as XF86??
I can't tell you for sure, as I haven't used it, but I should think so
Modelling Weekly thanks for the quick response.
Did you use some 1/48 planes in their , because I don’t yet have a grasp of how big they are
All the aircraft in the video were 1/72 👍
@@ModellingWeekly thanks
I still don’t understand how to remove oil paint . You just need to pour white spirit in you clean brush and then remove ?
Yeah, just soak a brush with white spirit so that it's damp but not dripping, and then use that to remove any oil paint that you don't want to be there :)
@@ModellingWeekly cool thank you
How long do oils take to dry?
Depends on the thickness of the oils - heavy weathering should probably be left for a day or two, whereas if you've just applied an oil wash and some basic blending then you can afford waiting only 5 or 6 hours. Thats if you're spraying the varnish coat over the top however - if you're handbrushing then it's essential that the oil paint has fully cured, so I'd leave it for around 2 days in thet situation
Just tried this and damn near stripped all the paint from my model! I guess u cant do this technique with enamel paints and humbrol clear coats? Or did i do something wrong?
You're correct, if you used enamel paints to begin with then a good varnish layer over the top is essential. Hunbrol clear coats should work in theory, in fact I used them a while back before I switched to lacquers. Need to make sure they have properly cured first though. Also, if you're hand brushing the varnish I'd highly recommend using a rattle can instead to get a more consistent coat 👍
@@ModellingWeekly D'oh!
What colour did you use on the bottom of the aircraft?
Vallejo model air IDF blue if I recall correctly, though I'd recommend going for a blue azure shade
@@ModellingWeekly sorry I meant the oil colour for the underside weathering but I will definately remember that colour for future models
@@epicforger12345 ahhh, apologies lol, I believe it would have been some kind of sepia, though any dark brownish tone would be adequate for those sorts of stains
Wow it's good to hear someone finally acknowledge that cotton buds with white spirits have a habit of pulling out the wash out of the panel lines lol
Very true! Few people actually mention it haha. Glad you picked up on that 😄
Can i just use water instead of White spirit?
Unfortunately not, as water doesn't mix with oils :)
@@ModellingWeekly Oh damn, of course, my bad, im not really thinking... Thanks tho💪
White spirit it's same is mineral spirits?
White spirit is a type of mineral spirit, so yes I suppose
White spirit is a type of mineral spirit, so yes I suppose
Yaaaay lol 😂
😂😂 Wish come true haha!
@@ModellingWeekly yep this video will help a lot thanks, I’ll get the better oil paints and I already got some odourless thinners so it’s good to go 👍🏻
can i use AK varnish??
Course 👍 all varnish should work in theory provided you've given it plenty of time to cure
@@ModellingWeekly I applied AK gloss to a model and the next weekend I used Tamiya panel wash and it failed. I was, like gummy, the panel washer wouldn't come off. Luckily it was in a spot i can't see plus nobody other then myself will see it.
@@danaringquist9730 that's really odd, unfortunately I don't have any experience with AK varnishes so I can't really give further assistance with that - if you contact someone in the help centre of my discord server you might be able to get some extra insight however :)
Good tips but no matter what I do i cant seem to replicate the results. I guess it just takes practice.
Thanks for the video. This is some good stuff. Again, thanks for sharing your hobby
No problem! Very glad you like the video :)
Did anyone ever hear of or watch bashingkits videos? If so, does anyone know what happened to him?
WHAT IS THAT CLICKING NOISE THUMBS DOWN FOR THAT
It's called backing music, if you don't like it feel free to not watch my videos :)
Winston newton is cheap
You don’t need all the colors
Only 30 cent per tube
"white spirit is an odourless spirit with a pretty awful smell"......... REALLY!!!!!!
You found the typo in my script 😂 congrats haha
An cloudless spirit with an awful smell.
Personally, I'll blame @Mos6510 for mistakes that were made! Appreciate him suggesting popping over to see this, and Thanks, well done 👍.
😄😄 thanks!