5 Things I Hate About My Hyundai Elantra N
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- Опубліковано 5 кві 2023
- Follow up video to my 5 things I love about my Hyundai Elantra N video I posted the other day. Hope you enjoy... and let me know the things you hate the most about the Hyundai Elantra N!
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As a Kona N owner I kinda feel your pain. I don’t really care what the perception of the Hyundai brand is. Those that know… know. Those are the real car guys I would rather have discussions with.
Is the Kona available with a manual?
@@t.k.morris no its the only n car that doesnt have that option
"Real car guys" haha 😄 , but this video explains why that perception is why it is. Yeah hyundai/kia definitely starting to go the right direction see how things go in next coming years.
Great point! I know what it is, so who cares if no one else does. I like that!
I had my Kia Stinger at a Car show. A bunch of people scoffed and said “a Kia?” But the people who know cars tho came over and were chatting and asking questions. Then of course you get the old dudes that walk over and insult you to your face that Kia’s are crap..catch fire etc. Non-Car people don’t know. Even when I had a WRX, I had to explain to people it was a Subaru but A cool one
Thanks for the very honest assessment. It isn't always easy to criticize the car you researched extensively and bought. Some things cannot be known or determined by a couple of test drives, so your 15K mile insights are very helpful. What hits home here is that at this price point, everything "cars" is a trade-off. The N group seems to have largely nailed the performance aspects of this car, and that seems to hold true when experienced track drivers take this on track. The N division got it right. And as you point, out, the N Division cannot fix the economy car roots in the rattles and cheaper interior materials. I guess if one wanted a more upscale interior in this price ballpark, they could look at the Acura Integra. But we all know that the Integra can't compete in driving performance and dynamics with this. Beyond that, seems like you'd have to look at the GR86/BRZ twins (still not luxury interior and not a backseat very useful for adult passengers) to stay in the ballpark with more performance. After that, likely going to have to move to a Supra 2.0 to get a deluxe interior and some performance, or a BMW 230i type. By then you are not even in the same price range. I'm really intrigued by all the performance aspects of this car, but can't get past the exterior. It feels like the exterior isn't going to age gracefully. Just not a fan of the "Zorro" doors. Maybe if I see one in person in the right color. I love that you can get a great DCT in an engaging car. Have not read great reviews of the Lexus sourced 6-speed auto in the BRZ/GR86 twins. Seems a shame that they could not have borrowed the 8-speed DCT from the Supra 2.0. I suspect that if Acura makes an Integra Type S, based on the Civic Type R, it will also be near impossible to find at a dealer. Keep up the great reports and enjoy the car! Side question, thoughts on headlights?
Thanks for backing up what I was criticizing! It’s definitely not perfect by any means, and other competitors do things better, like you mentioned, the GR86/BRZ, which I’m sure has a more quality feeling interior and of course superb reliability, but as a family of four with the kids being almost teenagers, there’s no way I could get a coupe at this point. And like you said, once you start talking BMW then you’re in a completely different price class. Although there is one BMW that intrigues me that might be close in price as a certified preowned and that’s the M340i/340i, but I’m not ready to go German just yet I don’t think. As far as headlights go, they’re fantastic. They have a very nice cutoff and light the road up really well in my opinion.
@@n-power-automotive You are doing well to have a super fun car that still works for the family. When my kids were that age, there wasn't anything affordable that was also fun to drive (at least in a brand I could halfway trust). Your next phase will be having teen drivers on your insurance. Then, someday, you can quit worrying about the back seat room and teens on your policy, and choose what you really want. That is kind of how I ended up with my current fun car, a '17 BRZ Limited with performance pack (kids completely out of the nest). Alas, the new gen with all the extra power looks tempting, but also finding that since my wife isn't a manual transmission driver, it stays home on the longer trips where we might want to share driving. This is what piqued my interest in the N cars - availability of a good DCT. My "theory" being that MAYBE, the extra power, acceleration, and multiple personalities of a N car might alleviate some of engagement lost by not having the MT. Boy howdy, the Hyundai "snobbery" you describe shows some real ignorance. One needs only look at the upper tier of Hyundai/Kia to the Genisis brand to see that given more money to play with, they can build some cars that rival Europe's best. The Stinger looks cool, but I'd be leaning towards the V6, and I really don't like the fuel economy. Ditto the that small Genesis sedan. And pricewise, those get into some heady competition with BMW, Acura, Lexus. The TLX is refined, but so dang heavy. With the Type S AWD, it is about 4200 lbs. Which is 600 lbs more than my Forester XT! IN the meantime, I enjoy the BRZ when I get to the twisty backroads. It begs to be pushed through the curves, but is fun without having to go 40 over the limit. If I had more car, like a C8 Corvette, no doubt doing what is fun in the BRZ would be "yawn" in the Vette and I'd have to be doing "go to jail speeds" frequently to even make the car break a sweat. Beautiful car, but not my jam.
@@scottanthony3426 the saying is definitely true - It’s more fun to drive a slow car fast than a fast car slow! Thanks for all the knowledgeable insight. You’re spot on with the N cars as far as the type of cars they are, and quite honestly, the DCT is so good I’d be hard pressed to go back to a manual. At least until the kids are out of the nest and I can have a weekend car. The BRZ/GR86 is a fantastic platform from what I hear, and according to all the autoX results I see, faster than the N cars around a track. I have always loved the styling of them, and now that they have more power, they have the performance to match it. The only criticism I’ve ever heard about them is if you want to track them you have to use a better quality brake fluid and pads. One thing that I find so impressive about the N cars is they can go straight from the showroom floor to a track and not skip a beat. Again, thanks for comment and enjoy tossing that BRZ around some corners! I can’t wait to get back to the Tail of the Dragon, this time with a car that can actually handle all the turns. 👍🏻
Kia employee: Hey, boss, I've got another batch of cars that might catch fire. Do you want me to ship them over to those stupid Americans like we did the last ones?
Boss: Sure: We don't care about America as long as they send their money to us in Korea. They love a bargain.
Employee and Boss: Ha Ha Ha!
I find the new Elantra's look great in red....but then, that is what colour mine is, so maybe I'm a little bias lol. I was really happy to see in '21 and '22 Hyundai offered them with a manual transmission in the base model trim in Canada.
I do want to upgrade to a more performance based car in a couple years. But when you hear about how the dealers treat basic maintenance on the N...it turns you off. With the research I've done for cars in my budget, all roads keep pointing towards the twins.
New Elantra N w/DCT owner here. I've only had the car for a few days, but overall, I really like it. I'm a little older than the average N owner, so the seats can be a little tricky for me to slip in & out of sometimes, but once I'm in them, they are fairly comfortable. I haven't hit any bad potholes yet, and I haven't heard any rattles, so I'm keeping my fingers crossed on those. I hate rattles! I bought this car because my daily commute increased, and I wanted something fun to drive that still got decent mileage. I traded in my 2016 Charger Scat Pack for the N. My biggest complaint would be the level of road noise when driving. It's fairly loud on certain types of highway surfaces, but the overall fun factor makes it worth it! 😉
Congrats on your EN! The road noise is louder than my Charger R/T was, but a lot of it has to do with the Michelin PS4S tires. When I switched to the Continental DWS06+ tires it was much better. Still not as good as the Charger though. I’m older than that average EN owner too, but age is just a number!
Is it worth it
A little older as in how old? I'm 36 years old and looking to get an elantra N in DCT, I've had stick shift all my life so looking for a dct
Great review 👏 and thanks for not being bias like most of these channels lying about certain aspects.
Thanks! And glad you appreciate the honesty. No reason to lie about some of the annoyances. No car is perfect.
I have to say that the way you described the pot holes was spot on. Every time I want to accelerate a little I'm so worried about hitting potholes. It sounds like something is breaking for sure, but if someone were able to tell me no it's ok it's just "this" making a sound I'd be at ease LOL. I just don't know if it'll damage the suspension or damage something that will be expensive to replace.
Yes, I totally wish I knew exactly what was causing the noise, too. That would definitely alleviate some of the stress lol.
@@n-power-automotivedidn't this change with 18" wheels ? Surely it's less severe
@@mharro88 yes it’s better, happens less frequently, but big imperfections still make a crashing sound.
@@n-power-automotive I had it happen to me and I pulled over immediately thinking I blew a rim out. It really shook me up. Thinking back it was when I had the car in full "N" mode with all settings on kill. NJ is infamous for potholes.
@@troGNman I’m originally from Southern Connecticut, so I’m familiar with how crappy the roads are out your way lol.
Every point you mentioned was spot on for my experience owning a 2021 tuscon not even mentioning the bad factory quality and the endless recalls
I have 2023 6MT and have none of those issue. For my first oil change, they put in 0-30 (Castrol). Put on 10k (kilometer) after 2 month of ownership and no rattles, I'm impressed at how resistance the lower plastic to scuff and centre cockpit divider is solid (it doesn't flex when trying to rattle it). No issues with expansion joints (probably cause I put on 18' wheel after taking delivery. What bother me the most is it's willingness to stall....however that seems to be getting better as the engine continues to brake-in.
I’m glad you don’t have any of my issues, as small as they are. I’m not sure who your console grab handle isn’t cheap and flexible like mine? I see you’re likely Canadian, which would explain you getting the correct oil since Canadian dealers seem to have their stuff together much more than the States, but the plastics and materials inside the car are identical. I’d be willing to bet you’ve just never given the handle a good yank. Believe me, it’s not sturdy at all. But anyway, I hope the stalling issue doesn’t continue for you. Seems a bunch of ENs came with bad injectors from the factory and stalling is one of the indications.
Same here , I have 2023 Manuel . No issues yet . Im curious to know if it’s only 2022 first production
@@n-power-automotive Centre console grab handle doesn't flex, but if I put my XXL shoulders to use, probably could break one of the tabs holding it together. I like the design, and its a feature worth some extra dollars to make it look and feel more premium. Given that I can do 36mpg on a slow highway cruise (with 93 octane), I think injectors are fine.. I suspect, the binding caused from front axle, when wheel is cranked, is the culprit (I even wonder if it'll act against the engine even in neutral). Also, having clutch engagement point that's not soooo low would help.
I am very lucky in that I have found a really awesome dealer for service. The first dealer I tried ended up being rather lousy. The 2nd one, I knew I was in good hands when a bunch of the techs were wearing N logo hats and were absolutely stoked to have a 6MT EN in the building. And the woman behind the computer was a beyond nice southern gal who assured me right off the bat that I had plenty of warranty left and would not be paying for anything.
That’s awesome! If you don’t mind me asking, what’s the name of the dealership?
@@n-power-automotive Jenkins Hyundai Ocala FL
@@borgdwarf1513 nice. Wish I was closer lol
You nailed it, perfect car if you going for performance and know what to expect buying it. The price is good for the performance they give you and sacrifice the other stuff
Thanks!
I could not agree more because I watched so many video's like this so I could decide to buy or not.
In my area the only way to buy a Elantra N was to buy one that is still in transit.
I had to buy without seeing it, sitting in it, driving it, and never seeing one in person.
I have had mine for almost a year and still have not seen another Elantra N on the road.
I agree with what is said in this video. But LOVE this car!
Performance when you want it, Regular Elantra to save gas when you want to and everything in between.
I might not be saving much gas..... But it's nice to know it's there. Lol
I am sure Hyundai gets them cheaper but when I think about retail price of the tires is about $2800 and all the features the car has.
I can hardly even believe the price point for the car.
@@zigzag7192 I had to do the same thing. I put a $500 deposit down sight unseen. I got lucky because someone put a deposit down but then pulled out last minute, so I only had to wait a little over a week after putting my deposit down for the car to arrive. The day I bought it was the first time sitting it driving an Elantra N, which was a little nerve racking, but I do love the car even with its little quirks and annoyances!
I am tempted to buy this car sight unseen too. Have dreams/aspirations of driving this on a race track. Probably safer and more fun in this than my 2001 sedan.
Man, 5 years ago their dealerships were amazing.. they never recovered from the pandemic- recent experiences definitely have me questioning if I would ever buy one again.
Let us know how a different dealership goes with service. I just bought a new 2023 Elantra N and am dreading my first service based on your previous video and forums.
I definitely will!
Have owned it for a whole year now and my 5 dislikes are:
• That crashing over bumps. Can confirm I have 6 spd and I have that issue too. I have PTSD going over slight imperfect road because you never know which one will trigger that pathetic thud. I double click my menu button to make sure my tire pressure is still fine lol.
• Wish it had radar cruise for something with such good lane keep assist
• Mine doesn't have sunroof. Wish it had one. Such strange omission just because it's manual.
• Wish fuel tank was bit bigger.
• The red trim pieces have started getting bad hits at 10k miles. Not sure what they'd be like in say 5 years. Wish that was better quality
And regarding dealership- The one I visited for first service had low 4 on google and i wish i checked review before going, but I didn't. The place had some horrific service dept reviews- but great sales dept reviews. They ended up putting 5w20. Fine, I said and waited for 2nd oil change. I feel like, google reviews are accurate and going to one that is 4.6 stars or above shouldn't disappoint you. I made sure to call during my 2nd service apt, and they confirmed 0w30 and I booked over the phone. Luckily service was top notch- they also put the right oil.
Regarding brand perception- yes but whatever. I think it's a very much US thing for some reason. Overseas in Europe and Australia incl. Asia, Hyundai has great reputation for being technologically ahead of competition and being of great quality on par with Toyota, Honda, while still being relatively cheaper. They manufacture their own steel which is why they can source body materials for very cheap. And most components are also in house made. I personally respect Hyundai a lot for being ahead, bold and different than competition.
Sorry, just now seeing this comment after a month. I’m glad your dealership worked out for you. I probably could hang tried a different one and had better results, but I like working on cars so it’s not a big deal to do my own oil changes. Plus I get to choose the oil I want. I don’t understand the no sunroof on manual cars, but I guess it’s a trade off so they keep the weight and center of gravity down low.
Dude that little detail that they manufactured there own steel is the detail to pay attention .im sold i want one.hyundai is also the golden reliable company 2022 next with genesis.Some say the real engineers of the toyota engine was korean slave engineer during the war check it out so best believe i know my koreans can engineer some good stuff
How are you putting your phone on the left side of steering wheel just wondering did u put something under it cause mine just doest stay there with magsafe
I have a QuadLock phone case and a mount I attached to that panel.
I guess I should do my own oil change even though we have the complimentary service. Hyundai dealerships are trash when it comes to any service. And yes, I agree with you on the suspension. Prior to my N, I had an NLine and I hit a pothole and it popped my tires. Fortunately it didn't ruin my alignment or suspension.
I’d give them a shot first and see if they use 0W-30. Some dealerships do use it, it just seems far and few between.
Probably the thing I hate most about my EN, is the fact that not all of the lights are LED, such as the turn signals, the interior, reverse lights, etc. Especially the turn signals. Hyundai very well could have made the DRLs turn amber for a turn signal much like the way the Sonata does it. I understand that it was done to save cost, as it uses the same headlight fixture as the other Elantras, which saves from having to create another separate production for headlights, but it just would have been nice to have
Yes, they definitely did it as a cost savings. I don’t mind the turn signals/reverse lights since I never see them, but I definitely want to change the interior dome lights to LED someday. The only lights I’ve upgraded to LED so far are the license plate lights.
@@n-power-automotive Can you just buy and install the LED equivalent bulbs or do you have to do something else like wiring or fuses or such?
@@t.k.morris I think you can just buy replacement LEDs, but I’ve heard of some people having weird electrical issues after, so that’s why I’m hesitant. Maybe they’re just using really cheap quality LEDs though. I’ll have to do more research.
@@n-power-automotive Thanks, please post your findings for everyone wanting to replace them.
first thing i did with my kona n was replace every bulb that was normal halogens to LEDs. except reverse lights though, ill save that for another day.
Do you have hot air coming out of your vents? Cause mine does and I have the automatic ventilation on but still hot air
No, not hot air coming out of mine.
#4 I did in fact hit a pothole on the highway, and it didn't just sound like damage; it actually did damage. Thankfully nothing to my undercarriage or axle, but I had to replace that whole tire [no damage to the rim though], and it was basically a brand new, which sucked. I don't blame the car or suspension in this instance, but I am on the factory 19's, and that's part of the inherent risk I guess.
That’s brutal. I hit a couple potholes with the stick wheels and wondered if I had popped a tire, but never actually had it happen. I’m so much happier with the 18s now.
How do you make sure they put the right oil in the car or verify they do the service correctly? I've seen that complaint a lot when researching this car. I can't do my own oil changes and I'm used to just going to the dealer lol
Yeah, unfortunately that is a very common issue. There’s no 100% guaranteed way other than doing it yourself, but I know a lot of owners buy their own oil and bring it to the dealership to put in when they’re having their oil changed. That’s probably your best bet.
You need to look at setting up chapters for the different things you cover makes it easier to keep track. Also I have the same complaint with the suspension it's like the suspension just cannot handle quick impacts and just smashes the bump stop.
Thanks for the feedback! I’ll look into setting chapters up next time.
About the seats ... Did you get to test drive the car first? Just wondering if you didn't notice them then or if you just made the decision to take it anyway hoping that they would get better?
Unfortunately it’s nearly impossible to test drive an Elantra N. They’re so in demand that they’re typically spoken for before they hit the lot. I did test drive it before I bought it, but I had already put a deposit down on it, so I was already emotionally and financially invested in the car, although I did have to option to get my deposit back. I complain about them a lot, but they don’t hurt me like some seats can hurt certain people backs, they just aren’t very comfortable. I had read they take time to break in so while I did recognize they weren’t very comfy on my test drive, I was hoping they’d break in and feel better over time. They have ever so slightly, but not as much as I was hoping.
@@n-power-automotive Thanks for your detailed reply!
@@t.k.morris no problem!
I agree the dealerships suck especially the service dept. Also agree the seats are confining, particularly on my left thigh. Interior materials don't bother me tbh, but I come from an old musclecar background so i'm used to cheap plastic interiors. haven't hit any potholes so no input on that. Agree with you about telling people what kinda car I drive. I just gave up and tell them an Elantra and the conversation pretty much ends there lol.
One pet peeve i can add is how the hood almost looks unlatched at the front when its closed. Its designed with a huge gap and it drives me nuts.
💯 agree some of the gaps are pretty bad, especially the hood and the trunk!
If you don’t mind me asking, how much did you wind up paying , before apr rate but including taxes an so
I paid MSRP - $34,695 - plus $2,740 in taxes. Dealer fees were $699. All said and done, out the door, it was just over $38,000.
Ive been leaning towards the N-Line Premium for a while. Is the extra 10k worth it to get the N performance?
100% yes it’s worth it if you’re into max performance and legitimate top notch handling. If you’re just looking for style and a little fun, then N-Line will suffice.
Hey man, did you ever find a solution for the seat comfort?
I have the same issue with my car. For me it’s the opposite, though. Short drives are fine but more than an hour or two in the car and I’m just in a lot of pain from the seats.
I’ve tried adjusting the position, adding pillows, but it’s all not been successful.
No, I’ve just changed my position vs the seats. I tend to keep my left foot off the dead pedal and place it closer to the seat so my knee is up. Doing that has helped, but not a final solution. Someday I’d like to swap Kona N seats in since they’re supposed to be more comfortable.
@@n-power-automotive My friend and I bought our N cars at the same time. He bought the Kona, I bought the Elantra.
I like how the EN drives better, but I’m kind of regretting it because the seats are just ruining it for me.
On the half hour test drive it was a non-issue.
I’d really like to get the Korean market sport buckets over what we have the N buckets.
For the crashing on big impacts have you checked to see that there's no plastic blocks in your suspension? I have a GLI and didn't know until I found a better dealer to work with 40 mins away from my house that the original dealer forgot to pull out the blocks they put in for shipping the car. I definitely drove like 10k miles on them and as soon as they took them out my suspension wasn't crashy at all
Thanks for the suggestion. Unfortunately there are no shipping blocks there. They retuned the suspension for the 2024 Elantra N, so I bet it addresses this issue. I think it’s probably the shocks bottoming out on the bump stops.
i have a 2024 gt line i hate the chair too. what did you come up with.
Nothing. I just deal with it 😂
I'm in the market for a performance car right now and the EN one of the cars in my Radar. I've actually watched a lot of videos regarding problems, and one thing in particular caught my attention: Faulty fuel injectors. Has this every occurred to you? Also have you ever brought it to the track?
I know the fuel pump problem is more of a Tuned EN problem, but I've seen solutions to those so I don't think that matters to me.
It’s really hit or miss with the fuel injectors. I’m at 27,000 miles and I have not had one issue with mine. I also only use top tier 93 octane fuel, so I don’t know if that’s the reason or just luck.
Sorry to hear about the service department, Rowe Hyundai in Westbrook, Maine has been exceptional. All dealerships and service departments are independent (although Hyundai should really clamp down on bad ones), so perhaps a different service department will be better.
Personally love the seats, but I'm just shy of 5'11", slight build, and a slightly bent spine that can't stand normal lumbar support. Don't mind the cheaper materials. They put the money into the engine, suspension and chassis, so I think it's a fair trade. And with 2 kids 9&12, nicer stuff gets wrecked pretty quick.
No rattles on mine yet, but I've only hit one really bad pothole. I suspect that may have something to do with pieces getting loose on you. My father-in-law exemplifies the Hyundai prejudice, Easter should be fun.
Only thing I actually hate is the softness of the paint. Thank goodness for good, professional (expensive) ceramic coating. The difference was night and day.
Thanks! I hope the new dealership is better. I’ve seen multiple N’s in their inventory, so at least they should have more knowledge about them verses the original dealership I bought my car from, who definitely made it seem like it was the one and only Elantra N they had sold.
The Australian version of this car has different seats. You could potentially get them fitted if there’s no issue with altering the seats adjustments to the opposite side. I find the seats in mine very comfortable
Yeah I thought about that but I’d be worried about the left side/right side difference. I believe the Kona N seats are the same as the Elantra N seats in Australia. If I could find a set at a reasonable price I’d try to fit them.
I have a question for anyone that owns an Elantra N.
Is there still a decent amount of air coming out of the AC/Heat vents when it is turned off??
If mine is set to AC cold air comes out when it's turned off and heat comes out when I turn it off if I had it set to heat.
Hey there, this a common thing on most newer cars. What you can do is turn on the recirculating air so no outside air comes in the cabin! Hope that helps
My EN does the same thing, as NYD said if you're set to fresh air you will get some airflow from the vent when moving. Set to recirculate to stop this.
I had experience with Ford, Mazda, Audi and now Hyundai. All did the same. Seems like when it's off, the car will try to change the temperature to what was last set.
Yep mine does it too. My last couple cars did the same thing.
Thank you very much to everyone for the replies.
I just wanted to be sure it was normal for it to do this.
Recirculate makes it stop but it changes the setting back after a few mins.
is this the N-Line? wheres the paddle shifters? or the red “rev” button? i know your driving an automatic but some sport cars that are automatic still come with those
This is an N, not an N-Line. It has both paddle shifters and the red button, but in the automatic (DCT) it’s an over-boost button called NGS (N Grin Shift).
I love the seats in mine. I always tell people "just look at these seats!" You just have to be high/weight proportionate and if you are they are very comfortable.
No doubt they look incredible.
Don't know if I should get this or a stinger gt. Help pls
They’re both great cars. I test drove a Stinger GT and while I liked it, it didn’t feel nearly as fun and nimble as the Elantra N. It also didn’t make the exhaust sounds and I hated the tiny rear window. But the Stinger is definitely more luxurious and the seats are way more comfortable, it has ventilated seats and AWD or RWD which makes it launch much better. But it has older style analog gauges vs the Elantra which had the full digital gauges. So there’s a lot of pros and cons to each. The real deal breaker for with the Stinger GT though is the gas mileage. You’ll be lucky to get 20 MPG combined, where my Elantra N is averaging almost 30 MPG overall.
You said you downsized your wheels. What size are your tires specifically?
245/40-18
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I'm looking at the new elantra n and was just wondering what size tire I could drop to for winter purposes. Thanks👍
Thanks, I will be sure to do all my own maintenance even if it means foregoing my free oil change.
I've been debating buying my own oil, and then just have the dealership use what I bring in. Hearing too many stories about the wrong oil. Doesn't help, that my dealership keeps contacting me for a recall on the regular Elantra and not the N.
Ugh not a good sign lol
I don't know what size you are, but I'm 6'4 and definitely bigger than you and I love the seats, they're so comfortable. In my old Corolla my butt would go numb on long rides without stops, but the EN seats that doesn't happen. Just gotta break them in, which takes like 6 months.
I think Australian one’s are from a different factory. The headlights are different. Our indicator is in the bumper we don’t have the orange part on the top of the light. My suspension doesn’t do that. And we have different seats
I think you’re right, they are built in different factories. Could definitely make a difference. But I wonder if your roads in Australia are in better shape than ours in the US?
We also have the indicator in the bumper, the amber part is just marker light. You guys have Kona (yuk) seats and we have N-Lite seats standard.
What is ‘your size’ in terms of seats? I’m 6’2 190, will I be fine?
6’3” 225. You should be fine.
I had a great experience at my Hyundai dealer in Clermont,FL and they put in the correct oil.
Lucky! Seriously though, that’s good news to hear.
@@n-power-automotive I wouldn’t have left the dealer if they had put in the wrong oil. I’m sorry you hear your luck hasn’t been so good. Oh and suspension does crash over bumps it’s crazy.
How did you find out they put the wrong weight oil in the car?
It was on the invoice.
@@n-power-automotive oh wow.
I’m 19 years old and thinking about buying one new, do you think insurance would kill me for this car?
Simple answer. Yes. Unfortunately that comes with your age. I’m old so I have very affordable insurance.
While I completely agree you SHOULD get what is desired on the manual, 0w-20 in a 0w-30 tank actually has no negative effects on a car, even in the span well over 6 figure miles. This has been tested, so at least you can rest assured your car wont be negatively impacted by this. But again, it isnt right.
I find it bizarre that Hyundai still has a bad rep with KIA and Hyundai have been making top 5 cars for the past decade, at least. I've had a KIA for the past 12 years, my wife is buying another one in the next couple of weeks. this is the first Hyundai I've owned and haven't experienced the service yet. I'd hate to imagine that it would be bad because the KIA dealership we use here has been fantastic for the past 9 years.
It all depends on the dealership. There’s some good ones I’m sure, but the majority of Hyundai dealership experiences I hear about are unfortunately not good.
It's such a fun car. I test drove it and know the seat seems like something I won't ever be happy with. I'm also spoiled by auto hold and would hate to part with that feature and since I'm in the south ventilated seats are on my checklist.
Auto hold is a really great feature. I had it in my Accord, so it was hard to adjust to not having it in the Elantra N. Ventilated seats are a wishlist option for me for my next car for sure.
@@n-power-automotive It's hard to find the right mix of fun sporty car and convenience features.. The Golf R has these things but it's around 50k 🙄 and the infotainment being all capacitive touch screen 🤦🏻♂️
@@johnleewins3814 it really is. The Elantra N has so much value and performance. The Golf R is probably a hoot, but yeah, it’s expensive and the infotainment and capacitive buttons are a no go for me.
Actually, my dealership is a very good one and I think that is somewhat rare. However, I do basic maintenance myself. I knew the salesman for years from my Genesis Coupe days and he laughed when he told me about the 3 /36 complimentary maintenance. He said, "you are not interested in that I am sure." I was not. I keep meticulous records and my cars last well into 6 figures. Cheap materials? You need to look at the Veloster N! I have a dash toupee from a scratch on the cheap plastic. But....I love my VN! I find my suspension is perfectly fine on my VN. No issues there and I surprised to hear this about an EN.
Yeah I do my maintenance myself as well. I’d rather pay for my own oil to know it’s being done right. The suspension for 99% of the times is excellent, it’s just when it makes the crashing noises over potholes and big road imperfections that I dislike it.
Regarding the pothole situation I have a 2022 Toyota Camry XSE V6 and it has the same issue. So yeah the suspension on the car is not made for big potholes in fact the dealer actually told me before I left that if I drove over a decent pothole at more than 30 mph chances r I would bust a tire. It’s been raining a lot where I live and so many of the roads now have huge potholes and I’ve unfortunately have been in the situation a few times where I can’t avoid big potholes and I can’t slow down to 30 unless I want to be rear ended. So yeah I’ve had to drive over them at somewhat not great speeds and the car sounds like I hit another car. Both Hyundai and Toyota seem to have had the same idea in this area. Make the car look aggressive but not drive well under poor weather conditions. But to be fair I haven’t busted a tire yet so I guess they did make it more durable than what it sounds and looks like. Regarding Hyundais history, I think they have come far. I was considering buying the Elantra N before I bought my Camry. It was between it, the Camry, and the Accord Sport. The Camry obviously ended up first but the Elantra N was a close second. The only reason y I didn’t choose one is cuz I liked the two tone color scheme of the Camry better
At one point I was looking into the Camry XSE V6, but I’m not a fan of the dashboard layout and it doesn’t have a limited slip so I decided to look for other cars, but I do love the exterior design and the 3.5L V6 is an outstanding engine. My wife has a RAV4 Sport 4x4 with the same engine and it’s a quick, fun, reliable little SUV. As far as the suspension goes, I’m really surprised it suffers from the crashing, too. I’d expect that from maybe the TRD since it’s lowered with stiffer springs, but not the XSE. Although, now that you mention it, the wife’s RAV4 crashes over bumps, too. The Sonata N Line I test drive was smooth as butter over them, so they definitely do know how to build one that doesn’t do it.
My Audi TTS does the same crashing noise over potholes, it's just the overall stiffness of the shocks it kinda sucks but I like the sportier ride!
Yeah true, it’s a trade off for better handling for sure.
i thought i was crazy for thinking the same about potholes. 100% the car sounds like it hit a wall if it goes over a pothole. i bought my EN in august of 22 and i now have an issue where my car is un-alignable. it blows my mind. i have a case manager working with me at corporate for the issue. its so crazy to hear that it is ALL EN's, and not just mine, that sound and feel like the chassis is breaking when going over bumps.
Yeah, it’s a little unnerving hearing the crunch sound. So tell me more avoid your EN not being able to be aligned. Did it all the Sun den go out of alignment or was it light that from day 1? What happens when they try to align it?
@@n-power-automotive so like i said before i bought my EN in august last year, and i loved everything about it. everything was great up until about november, when u noticed the wheel not being fully centered. so i took it back to the originating dealer who refused to align it because “their software wasn’t updated”. i ended up getting it aligned and it last for abt a month. it slipped out again to the same angle as before: wheel turned slightly to the left when going straight. this repeated itself until the 3rd alignment had no effect. i ended up doing it 2 more times at a hyundai dealer who aligned my car to the base elantra spec, throwing it off even more. i got a refund on that and they did it correctly but still no fix. my case manager from corporate was no help, she continued to say “give me a few days” for abt 4 weeks. when i finally got through to a dealer for a diagnosis, they said the soonest appointment was in october of 2023. i ended up selling the N about 4 days ago :/
@@brock4772 oh wow that’s terrible! I have heard of other EN’s going out of alignment, so you’re not the first, but to have all those alignments done and it still not fix the issue and Hyundai corporate not helping identify the problem is super concerning. I honestly don’t blame you for selling it - I would probably do the same. Just based off of my prior experience dealing with Hyundai corporate, their representatives seem like they’re just reading off a script and have no actual car knowledge. I hope at least you got good money for the car. What did you replace it with out of curiosity?
@@n-power-automotive well i haven’t replaced it yet, of course i’d love to get the facelift when it comes out but my experience has worried me quite a bit. and yes, i feel the same way about corporate
This happens with my 2014 Genesis Coupe 3.8 Ultimate. Don't press the brakes going over bumps or holes.
You could vinyl wrap your hard plastic doors. Might make them more tolerable and no scratches
Agree that the dealership experience is by far the worst thing about Hyundai. As regional service manager for one of the big 3 I can confidently say they seriously leave a lot of room for improvement. However with a few exceptions most brands dealerships suck!
One other thing everyone seems super obsessed with oil weight but using the correct Hyundai required API service rating (SN Plus or the newer spec SP) is just as important. It's all about the additive package in today's modern oils and there are some very good reasons why Hyundai engineers spec a SN Plus oil. BTW most currently easy to obtain 0w30 oils don't carry the SN Plus spec but that's slowly changing as manufacturers update their offerings to the current SP spec.
The seats would also be a slight issue for me but overall they are not bad. At 5'9 170 lbs I am not far off in body size to what they design for but at times have an issue getting comfortable. After having more than a few faux suede and the real thing seats I find the trick is to lift my butt up using my elbows on the door armrest and console a couple of times till I find a comfortable position. Cheap interiors are just a fact of life with these type of vehicles. I am just used to it after having a few STi's and EVO's through the years but love the bang for the buck aspect. After all with the EN's you are paying for the tech and drivetrain and get reminded of that everytime you drive. Only exception would be my Focus RS where it seems they went out of their way to eliminate the cheap feel on most of the touch points however for 10k more they could afford to do it.
Great points all around! The oil thing is so annoying. Like you said, once you find a 0W-30 oil it’s not covering all the ratings. I use Pennzoil Platinum Euro 0W-30. I know it’s a high quality oil, but it doesn’t meet I think one of those specs. I know Pennzoil Ultra Platinum 5W-30 does, so I may switch to that next oil change. I just wish it was easier to find a readily available 0W-30 that meets all the ratings to make my life easier and stress less about the damn oil in this thing lol.
@@n-power-automotive Correct the PP Euro 0w30 does not have the correct API rating. Move up to a 5w30 and you have a lot more choices since it's a much more popular weight and has already been updated by some of the manufacturers to the current SP spec. Not much of a issue unless you live in a super cold climate. Not a huge M1 fan but Mobil 1 Advanced Fuel Economy Full Synthetic 0w30 ticks all the boxes. Pay attention to the Advanced Fuel Economy on the label as the other Mobil 1 0w30's are not what you need. Its sold in lots of places at a reasonable price including Walmart and most have one within driving distance.
SN Plus was an interim spec to bridge the gap between SN and at the time the yet to be released SP. SN Plus has now been superseded by SP. Offering much better protection for engines like ours. SN Plus and even more so SP was designed to provide increased protection against low-speed pre-ignition (LSPI), timing chain wear protection, improved high temperature deposit protection for pistons and turbochargers, and more stringent sludge and varnish control. All part of the additive package and things our vehicles benefit from. Hence why Hyundai requires it. Also API SP with Resource Conserving matches ILSAC GF-6A by combining API SP performance with improved fuel economy, emission control system protection and protection of engines operating on ethanol-containing fuels up to E85. If I remember correctly the Mobil 1 Advanced Fuel Economy Full Synthetic 0w30 also meets ILSAC GF-6A which is also approved for use in our EN's. Now short term you won't see much issues running a SN oil however for longevity I would always run the proper API rated oil as over time it will come into play.
All that said if your tuned, tracking or just live in a warmer climate I would also have no problem running a 0w40 or 5w40. This summer I plan on running a 0w40 and see how it goes. Only time will tell but I think given the fact that most modern engines having such tight tolerances I am slightly more comfortable with the thinner cold start weight for a little extra protection. In addition I fall into what's classified in most manuals as severe duty so I plan on adhering to 3k change intervals like I do with any turbo vehicle. Cheap insurance also given the fact that it going to thin out somewhat due to fuel dilution rather quickly from the direct injection. Our GDI engines seem to suffer a bit more from that than usual. Sorry for the long rant.
@@richm658 no need to apologize, that’s amazingly thorough information. I really appreciate it!
@@n-power-automotive Thanks...Just sharing the knowledge. Now if i can just find the one hidden screw holding the window belt moulding on I can fix that stupid lose moulding we both have. Going to remove the mirror over the weekend and maybe the door card and take a closer look.
@@richm658 let me know what you find out regarding the trim!
you say the seat because of your "size". Can you tell us your specs ? You dont appear to be heavy, are you just tall long legs, wide shoulders ? I think this would help better explain how or why they are uncomfortable
I'm 6'3" and 225lbs with long legs and a short torso.
I feel your pain on the service. I have an acura [entry level] and I feel like they are so lazy when I explain a concern. I’ve had to take it elsewhere, diagnose, and they’ve taken it in and fixed it. And I’ve noticed the material my ‘07 vs my ‘15 the material
Is so much cheaper feeling.
Sorry to hear even your Acura dealer service department is incompetent. I used to have an Acura years ago and I had a pretty terrible experience at the dealership there, too. And the more I think about it, it’s been extremely rare to find a trustworthy dealer service department in general. It’s really a widespread problem I suppose and not just isolated to Hyundai. Thanks for watching!
Bruh you kept mentioning someone your size making the seat uncomfortable? How big are you? Im 6'2" 205 so im curious if that would be uncomfortable or not.
I’m 6’3” 225lbs
Did you have an accord 2.0 or 1.5?
2.0T
@@n-power-automotive would you say the performance difference is significant? If yes how so?
@@Dany1fist the Elantra N is much more capable than the Accord, but around town driving they’re pretty close. The Accord has better low end torque, but the Elantra N pulls way harder from 4k RPM to redline. The Accord is a family sedan that is quick, the Elantra N is a sports car that is family friendly.
@@n-power-automotive just got an accord 2022 2.0. For 8k miles on it. Was thinking about trading it in for the Elantra but I paid 42k in total after fees and taxes and I’m not trying to pay more for a mediocre car. I really like what the Elantra has to offer but I don’t think it’s worth spending more, especially with the markups.
@@Dany1fist I would never pay markup for one. There are some trade offs, like interior quality and ride compliance, but pretty much anything performance oriented, the Elantra N is going to be way better at.
Psssht, I bet the suspension is heavenly compared to my car since I totally ruined it lol.
Definitely gonna get one of these in a year or so. Just wanting to wait until some DCTs get some mileage and if they stay reliable
Hi! I heard on Reddit you’re not a fan of your seats. I have a 2020 VN that has more comfy seats, and I swapped with a 22 EN for a little while until we swapped back since he was quite tall and the additional inch and a little to the minimum seat level caused his head to bump. If you’re interested, or depending where you’re located, I’d love to discuss maybe trading. Let me know!
Hey thanks for the offer! So just for clarification you guys were able to swap seats for a bit, so the rail mounting points were the same? Were the electrical connection plugs the same, too? Any airbags lights? I’m in the Nashville, TN area. What about you?
@@n-power-automotive rail mounts are the same, the seatbelts can be swapped over easily. The heated seats need an adaptor wired, and the airbags need a resistor added to their adaptor to meet the expected resistance for the car
@@n-power-automotive I’m currently in New Brunswick, Canada
@@benmorris8436 a little bit of a drive 🤣
How do you know they put the wrong oil in? Jc
It said 0W-20 on the invoice they handed me.
@@n-power-automotive that checks out, ty
@@n-power-automotive is there a lot of noise in the cabin?
@@realitychallenged4488 it’s surprisingly quiet for what it is. Don’t forget though, it’s still based an economy car so it’s not luxury car quiet. It’s a lot less noisy for me now too since my Continental DWS tires aren’t as loud as the stock Michelin PS4s.
@@n-power-automotive living up north first thing would be a tire change, also worried about the condition of the roads with pot holes and inverse speed ditches that are everywhere in Wisconsin from the roads freezing. Would it be an uncomfortable daily driver, do you think?
If you were buying a new car now in April 2023, what else would you consider buying less than $40k ??
Honestly there’s no other sedan that would interest me. I’d consider a GTI if it had decent legroom. If I didn’t need a sedan, I’d probably consider a GR86/BRZ.
@@n-power-automotive currently debating between the EN and the WRX, which would you think is better?
@@GoldstarVFX I’d take the EN all day long simply because I don’t like the looks of the WRX or the fact it only offers a CVT for the automatic option. The DCT in the EN is incredible. The shifts make it feel like an exotic car lol.
The Neutral lockout, The Wipers not folding up regular .My 2 gripes.
Would you trade for a used Stinger?
No. As much as I like the Stinger, it’s just not as fun as the Elantra N.
@@n-power-automotive I'm suprised that a fwd car can live up to a ttv6 rwd one
@@kylenewberry2598 crazy right?
@@n-power-automotive Def. Now if only they would of made the Elantra a sport back as well
@@kylenewberry2598 yeah I wish it was. It’d have a lot more utility.
Imo if you want quality switches and good materials, don’t buy one of the cheapest performance vehicles money can get? You bought the car because it can keep up with vehicles $15k-$20k more expensive. If you want better quality, get one of those vehicles. It’s like going to a food truck and complaining you don’t get the same service as a 5 star restaurant
It’s a 5 things I hate video. Its not stuff I hate enough to get rid of the car, it’s just stuff to point out that I wish were better
The seats kill it a lot. Comfort is big for me and seats are why I wasn't a fan of the Kona N or Veloster N i drove. Elantra N felt more comfortable but I can see it getting uncomfortable over time since they grip you so tightly in an upright position and making adjustments is limited.
Yeah the seats are definitely something to take into consideration before buying an Elantra N. I have gotten somewhat used to them, but I still wouldn’t consider them very comfortable for me.
I sold my 22 veloster n after a year mostly because of the seats and rattling interior.
We can all agree dealers are generally liars, always looking for an opportunity to scam you. I stopped going to my local VW dealer and learned to do most of the stuff myself
0w20 is just a bit thinner than 0w30 at hot temperatures (400°F). When they’re cold, they practically the same.
you forgot octane learning at every fill up on a tiny gas tank
Yeah, I made this video pretty early on and didn’t think much about the octane learning then, but it’s near the top of the list now haha.
Why are you not in N mode. There’s only one mode.
How tall are you
6’3”
I love my 2023 EN.
That’s great to hear!
Shame about the dealers up there. They're fantastic here in Australia. They only allow registered N techs near any N car when it comes to servicing etc. Hopefully they allow you to purchase the seats we get in the refreshed model later in the year.
As for materials.. you'll see shitty plastics in all cars of this class. It's still better than the gr corolla in my opinion and pretty close to the civic really . Personally I don't mind as it's weight savings as long as the touch points are good.
As for the suspension, didn't they tune it specifically for u.s roads ? I know here in Australia, Hyundai Australia go out of their way to ensure they do a proper local tune for normal mode. I find in normal mode it's completely fine even on 19s.
Interesting the reputation isn't that great for Hyundai yet there. In Europe / Asia and Australia the N cars are well regarded , I guess because we've had them since 2017 with the i30n hatch and all their success in tcr and wrc Motorsport , Hyundai has even gone past Honda here now. Another few years and N cars will be huge up there I'd say. Sounds like the N division is still in its infancy up there , hopefully they start n festivals like they do down here to market it better. They hold them once a year here in Victoria/SA/NSW and Albert Bierman even comes a long to the track days lol. Hyundai U.S need to pull their act together.
Americans are stubborn and extremely brand loyal when it comes to cars. Hyundai sells a ton of cars in the US, but those who don’t buy them hate them and think they’re junk cars.
@@n-power-automotive yeah they're living in the past unfortunately. Tables have turned. Honda is seen as a dying brand here apart from rusted on fans , they'll always be enough of them to buy a limited supply of type r's but many have moved on. They're just overpriced and nowhere near as reliable as they once were. I feel like people are still stuck in the mid 2000's over there. Hyundai and Kia have gone past many brands now. There's a reason the new Kia Sportage has won car of the year here 2 years in a row.
I’m tech at Hyundai We Used 0W30 because that’s on the specifications
You Americans need a Department of Fair Trading to sort out your dealership problem. Also where in the US was this video recorded? It such a people place to drive through.
Yes we do. Unfortunately there’s not much more we can do other than complain and leave poor online reviews. This was recorded in Tennessee.
@@n-power-automotive in Australia we have the Department of Fair Trading who handles all of that.
The suspension issue is rebound, pple need to copy porsche... the downside to that is the cars will become more expensive
It's a Hyundai but its a special Hyundai is what I have to say every time and they still don't get it until they actually see the car
Oil between 20-30 will not effect car.. all new cars are plastic.. plastic is lighter and helps with fuel economy, the days of 10,000 pound solid cars are gone .. but look on the bright side it’s under warranty if the oil breaks it your covered, if the car starts falling apart ur covered.. before warranty ends trade it in..
Not sure why you’re trying to compare the weight of the car to the manufacturer’s recommended oil viscosity?
i got more than 5 thing hate ! but i have more than 10 thing like
It was definitely easier to come up with things I like verses things I hate!
@@n-power-automotive the only reason I come to this car is Fun! Fun to drive! Exhaust sound! Steering wheel, a lot of buttons...! NGS is make me feel like I'm back in my childhood when I put that red button 😂! Mario games 😂😂💥
@@LongRaider996 absolutely!!!
Love mine have like 1500 miles on it now, has some rattles in driver door over bumps, nothing crazy doesn’t really matter once the volume on the speakers is over 10. Better than the Honda it replaced had a civic 2016 with problems all over it Broken ac 4 years in with that shit box and oil mixed into the fuel. I can’t recommend Honda anymore I feel like the Elantra has equal build quality to the civic if I’m being real
Yep, I agree. My 2021 Honda Accord Sport 2.0T that the Elantra N replaced had so many issues. Honda definitely isn’t what it used to be.
Katskin might be able to change your seat to leather
those confining seats are meant to be that way
its meant to hold you in when you take hard turns
you wouldnt want big comfortable loose seats in a sports car
Obviously
@@n-power-automotive obviously youre a clown bitching about something obvious
you can get the 2024 elantra n normal seats
We’ll see. If they start offering non-sport buckets I might have to try swapping them in.
always change ur own oil
I see on Reddit these overweight people complaining about the seats and I wonder why the heck they bought the car in the 1st place. You have to be height/weight proportionate for these seats, if you are you will love them.
im pretty big myself at 6'7 270 lbs and i fit in them pretty well but i dont road trip
I don’t disagree with you at all, but the rest of the car is so good I’ll put up with the tight seats. Or maybe lose some weight lol.
its up to hyundai to make things right
The Elantra n sound system
I don’t hate it, but it could definitely be better.
The seats are literally why I got rid of the elantra N way to stiff and uncomfortable
What did you replace it with?
Sonata Nline. Good car so far
@@veasycompanyx5494 nice. I test drove one. It was very nice and felt strong power-wise.
Yea the power and torque are pretty nice but the Elantra N definitely outclasses it in pretty much every other performance category lol
i agree the hyundai dealership service is so bad but car is great and i love my 2022 hyundai elantra n . i had 2021 accord 1.5 but transmission and motor went out at 11k miles.. i will never go back to Honda again and The quality of Honda cars is so bad nowadays
I completely agree! I love this car so much more than the Accord Sport 2.0T it replaced!
@169 Design I own 2013 elantra limited as well and just Hit 412k miles .it's still running strong..all I did is regular maintanenece.
@@user-bd9lw9jp9t that’s amazing!
@@user-bd9lw9jp9t wow!!!
Sell now fix later. Thats what Hyundai feels like. Recall after recall, model after model.
I agree. Hyundai dealers sucks! Corporate needs to fix that
Apparently this is happening allover the world. bad servicing at the dealership
Dude, it's a 32k high performance sports car. It's not an Audi SUV. You get a great engine and performance. To make it 32k and not mid 40s for the Civic Type R you are getting plastic. Just like my 31.5k BRZ. Get over it.
Everyone saying how it’s worth sacrificing the comfort for the performance is crazy. This car is a hype beast but I feel the hype is coming from people that maybe have driven two cars in their lives
Not crazy at all. Tell me what other new car for $35,000 is faster, handles better, sounds better and has more features. I’ll wait.
Mazda MX5…and convertible…
Informative and honest dislikes to the new buyer.
It’s a sports car what you expect normal seats in a cool car
I knew going in they were heavily bolstered. I didn’t realize how narrow they were until I was sitting in them.
I do my own oil changes. Problem solved
First world problems 🤣
We know it's a Hyundai Elantra N, you don't have to say it over and over.
Great video as usual. I'll chime in with my complaints.
1. No wireless Android Auto. Why put the wireless charging pad if I still need to plug in my phone?
2. No easy way (that I've found) to go from the N screen back to Android Auto. You can get to the N screen in one click of the star button but not back to Android Auto.
3. No adaptive cruise control. I heard rumors that the '24 will have and I'll be so jealous if that's the case.
4. No way to go straight to Eco mode without going into Sport first. I don't like having to select Sport mode and then the exhaust changes and then goes back to quite when I get to Eco. it's probably not a big deal but I just worry that its putting unnecessary wear on the electric motor or whatever makes the exhaust louder.
5. The wheel spin and wheel hop. My god, sometimes I'll spin the wheels all the way through 2nd gear lol
Thanks! And great point on all the things you listed.
1. I totally agree on the lack of wireless, but them including a wireless charging pad (which I never use) doesn’t make much sense.
2. I believe you can program your star button to Phone Projection which would be Android Auto if you have your phone plugged in. You should give it a shot.
3. I wasn’t a fan of adaptive cruise on my Accord, but I did try it in the Sonata N Line I test drove and it worked great, so it is a shame we didn’t get it.
4. You know, I think about the drive mode thing every time I use it, but I just didn’t think of it for this video! I 100% agree it’s super annoying to have to cycle through Sport to get to ECO. I’ve started taking my foot off the gas pedal when cycling though the modes to try and reduce the load on the exhaust valve. Not sure it’ll make it last longer or not but we’ll see. But yeah, its super weird to have to hear the exhaust valve open for a split second in Sport just to go into ECO.
5. You really need to get a lower rear engine mount or bushings to reduce the wheel hop. I have heard it’s way worse in the 6 speed manuals. Also, I think the Michelin PS4S tires wheel hop more than all seasons due to their better grip, but I’d personally rather have pure spin than hop. Just a thought.
All in all though, at the end of the day, we still have an amazing car, just with some small quirks and annoyances.
AAWireless is what you are after. I have one and it's awesome.
As for Android Auto, I use an AAWireless device and have no issues with it, but I understand that it doesn't solve the problem, just alleviate it. And to get to the Android Auto screen, all you have to do is press the 'Media" button on the dash, and it will open right to it, so long as it was the most recent used media source. However, I also have the media button setup to only switch to Android Auto and Bluetooth, as I never use the radio and don't want to accidentally switch to it when I don't use it in the first place. You'll most likely just have to browse through the settings and try some experiments to see what works, but pressing the media button will take you directly to the Android Auto screen. It's how I quickly switch between menus when driving
Suspension. It's a SPORTS CAR. See GR86.
Please stop calling it Honday.. it’s Hunday, like Sunday lmao
You can tell me that until you’re blue in the face and I’ll still pronounce it Honday lol. 😂 I know it’s Hunday, but for some reason it doesn’t roll off the tongue for me. I’ll try better next time. 😉