I remember in the 90's my crew in a line of low-geared Suzuki's slowly walking it down the mountain one night. Not literally walking alongside our crawling vehicles, but because they were all convertibles, SITTING on the roofs and steering with our feet- enjoying the unique view most cars cannot.
I run a dual ultimate set up (2.28 front case, 4.7 rear case) and love it. Best money spent hands down on mods short of a selectable locker. I can run single low 2.28 or double low 4.7 or tripple low 10.716 . Just through the transfer case. This is essentially a 4 speed transfer case. Hi range and 3 low range gears. Only thing I wish I could source/find would be a 2.9-3.5 gear set some where In That range so single low isn't too slow but the tripple low gets nutty.
Definitely on my wish list items. I have Marlin crawlers here in Colorado....but I have a lot of steps to take first on this build. But I keep getting injured and having surgeries and those are expensive lol.
Gonna be doing a R150f swap into my 3.4 4runner soon. Got a donor 02 taco I'm gonna use. Pretty stoked. Totally forgot you manual swapped yours, gonna have to watch those videos.
Your whole get down is badass ,working on the dirt in the yard and just getting the work done how ever u can just like most of us ,excellent content .I'm doing a 99 4runner 2wd conversion .4.7 swap dual t- case home made conversion with help from my machinist homeboy .curry 9 inch on both ends ect. It has turned out to be a tough order but we have a handle on it .thanks.
Back in the 90s I did a complete frame-off rebuild on an 83 Toyota pickup I replaced most everything and went with 6in all spring lift 4.88s and 35s , we did all the work in the woods behind my grandfather's house using the trees as cherry pickers and lifting cabs and beds off with the trees I miss that truck like crazy
dude i also work in the driveway and my wife bought me 2 pads made for horse stalls. they are thick rubber and hold up to jacks and are much better than laying on rocks and gravel. you might use a board if putting jack stands on the mats, but have used my floor jack on them with no damage. tractor supply or farm stores carry them.
Perhaps a short throw shifter kit for the R150F would be good if you decide later that your sticks interfere to much. Marlin Crawler makes one that is pretty neat.
Unfortunately not with this setup. If your 4cyl to start the front shifter should be in correct spot though, and you can possibly fit a triple stick there.
super useful for others installing duals, thanks so much for posting this. How long did this take you doing it all by yourself, and did you end needing any unexpected tools or parts during the install?
Well I was collecting parts to do this for several months. But once you have everything, assembly and install can easily be done on a day! No specialized tools required 😁
This definitely helped I wanna dual case my 1jz swapped 86 and it’s good to see at least a Partial chain t case to ⚙️ t case install. I was thinking about doing about a single 4.7 gear drive and maybe not having to do new drive shafts but I want twin cases 🤙🏾
Hey dude! You may not see this. But I wanted to ask how the t cases held up usuing the 23 spline adapter? I’m currently 22re with dual cases and planning for a 3.4 swap and would like to keep my current dual setup using the adapter but I’ve heard it’s hit or miss as it isn’t very reliable and may break things?
@@DirtGarage Thanks im about to do the same adapter kit and 23 spline.Your the only one out there that has info on it. you should send some videos to trail gear and get sponsored for your promotion work .
when i had my doubler in my 4runner, my gear ratio was 101:1 but i also had 4.88 gears haha! man i miss that! ive already started collecting stuff to make a doubler for my truck haha! just need about 2300$ in adapters hahaha!!! damn!
I’m not much of a mechanic but I love the solid axle pickups. I used to have an 84xtra cab that I never should have sold and recently picked up an 85 22r that I’m loving so far but still getting a feel for it as it’s more heavily modified than my 84. My question is about gearing vs crawl box. I use my pickup as a feed truck on a W Montana ranch that gets a lot of snow. As far as I can tell it’s currently stock gearing, and it’s on 35x12.5 with a six inch lift. I put it in 4low and let it crawl while I pitch hay from the back. The gearing and larger tires make it too fast in 1st gear 4low. In terms of what will be easier on the truck and also easier to complete would you change to 5.29s or install a crawl box? Found your channel when I picked up the 85 and am really enjoying it. Thanks
Question is how does it feel on the highway? I kept my axle ratio stock because with the 37s and V8 it feels great and would not benefit from lower gears. To best place to re gear is in t cases, because t case gears don't effect road driving, and provide a much lower ratio than just re geared diffs would.
Good info, thank you. She may never see the highway again. Just want to make a snow beast ranch truck. My plan is to hopefully find a decent condition stock xtra cab RE and go with 2 to 3 inch lift and 33s for a daily driver.
So if it's crawling on idle. And you want to stop,you can just step on brake? And release to crawl again? Or once you brake do you have to go out of low range?
Clutch feels fine. Not difficult to use, and I definitely don't want to use much throttle if any when letting out the clutch in double low, so much torque.
6:14 OK just to confirm... with this dual transfer case setup, when you say both cases are in High, that means you can still run 2WD or 4WD in a 1:1 ratio, right? (not counting transmission and diff)
Hey bud! Love this video. Hey question: You quickly showed your dual case setup with triple sticks. I currently have a single case with dual sticks, and I want to add a second case. What I'm still trying to figure out in my head is how you were able to get both of your t-case sticks right next to each other in your cab? The architecture of the dual cases means that the second case's stick is set behind the front case's stick....But you managed to get them right next to each other. Can you explain? Thanks mate! From one vintage Yota fanatic to the next, I love your channel!
I am running a custom made triple sticks setup on my duals. The rear case has twin sticks, but the top of the sticks are chopped off, then used small linkages attaching the rear twin sticks to a set of sticks mounted on either side of the front shifter. If you look up Radesigns triple sticks it is essentially like that.
@@DirtGarage but it's two 4h. if double low is better than just one 4l, shouldn't double high be better than just one 4h. I saw how cars with dual case move slowly. if you use 4h and 4l together or 4h and 4h together you get less torque than double low but you go faster.
Triple sticks are awesome! But if you have bucket seats and no center console totally not necessary. If that is the case I would put twin sticks on the rear case, that way a overall cleaner install with less moving parts, accomplishing same job.
@@DirtGarage Wow thats great information. Yes red bucket seats. We got the motor out today and tomorrow we start to put the new turbo motor from yota 1 performance. Theres a 500 miles break in and then it will be ready. I'm going to have the r151f rebuilt and upgraded with the twin sticks in a few months thanks you for the advice.
@@DirtGarage right on! Hows the 3.4 do on the road with the 37s and 4.56s, im building first gen runner and didnt know if i should get 5.29s or just run stock gear and option out with the dual cases?
Absolutely! Only downside is 4.7 can be to low for alot of trails, and it being your only option is almost as bad as not being low enough.. Although lower gears do come in handy often!
Hi I have trouble please I need your help trying to swap 1994 4runner 3.4 but the transmission transfer case for me diferencial is on the Right side but the new transmission has the transfer to left side me question they sale adapter plate for this problem
@@DirtGarage no this manual transmission and the horijinal is automatic but I have scramble me engine is 3.4 from 1997 and my transmission is manual from 2004
@@DirtGarage shoot, I just found out I need to get a sensors for the gear drivin cases. I have the v6 tranny and the cases I purchased have no sensors in them. Thank you man. Love the content
@@DirtGarage hell yeah I can’t wait to see it ! My buddy just got his back and with 2.28 In both, I plan to get a set made I just wanna see that 4.7 in the rear in action 🤣
Man that red interior is whack!!! I love it! Ya friendly heeelux fan from down unda! Whistlin diesel didnt get a hold of my dually 106!! Happy farkin days mate
Чет быстро едет это режим 4LL? я прикидывал у меня 2,48х2,248 =6,15...... 800метров/час.... Классно что у Вас в Америке есть такие комплекты я буду делать сам то, что у Вас называют DualCase..... Машина в видео - огонь
I remember in the 90's my crew in a line of low-geared Suzuki's slowly walking it down the mountain one night. Not literally walking alongside our crawling vehicles, but because they were all convertibles, SITTING on the roofs and steering with our feet- enjoying the unique view most cars cannot.
back in the old good days
@@alexmartinez3862times are what you make of them
Impressive!
😎
💪
Enjoyed the video; working out of the dirt...not even cardboard on the ground. Hard core. The force is strong with this one.
Yota mastery level: Jedi. Mad props, brother.
Make sure you watch to the end to see the cases in action! Thank you for watching everyone, we are stoked to see this video take off!
looks like your in Alberta's West Country, and or Maybe in BC.
Do you still habe the truck
@@jbstepchild Yes
I run a dual ultimate set up (2.28 front case, 4.7 rear case) and love it. Best money spent hands down on mods short of a selectable locker.
I can run single low 2.28 or double low 4.7 or tripple low 10.716 . Just through the transfer case. This is essentially a 4 speed transfer case. Hi range and 3 low range gears.
Only thing I wish I could source/find would be a 2.9-3.5 gear set some where In That range so single low isn't too slow but the tripple low gets nutty.
Awesome! I really want the 4.7 in one case because its so great in really deep snow. 10.716 sounds wicked!
@@DirtGarage so your setup right now both 2.28..?
Definitely on my wish list items. I have Marlin crawlers here in Colorado....but I have a lot of steps to take first on this build. But I keep getting injured and having surgeries and those are expensive lol.
Gonna be doing a R150f swap into my 3.4 4runner soon. Got a donor 02 taco I'm gonna use. Pretty stoked.
Totally forgot you manual swapped yours, gonna have to watch those videos.
Awesome!! The autos in attached to the 3.0s where steaming piles of garbage 😅 Had to get rid of it. We manual swapped the "budget build" pickup too!
Great videos. I love the 80s toyotas. I am putting a new motor in my 87 turbo ex cab tomorrow. Anyway I got excited and saw your videos. There great👍
Your whole get down is badass ,working on the dirt in the yard and just getting the work done how ever u can just like most of us ,excellent content .I'm doing a 99 4runner 2wd conversion .4.7 swap dual t- case home made conversion with help from my machinist homeboy .curry 9 inch on both ends ect. It has turned out to be a tough order but we have a handle on it .thanks.
Back in the 90s I did a complete frame-off rebuild on an 83 Toyota pickup I replaced most everything and went with 6in all spring lift
4.88s and 35s , we did all the work in the woods behind my grandfather's house using the trees as cherry pickers and lifting cabs and beds off with the trees I miss that truck like crazy
You have one of the best channels on UA-cam man .
Fun videos to watch
dude i also work in the driveway and my wife bought me 2 pads made for horse stalls. they are thick rubber and hold up to jacks and are much better than laying on rocks and gravel. you might use a board if putting jack stands on the mats, but have used my floor jack on them with no damage. tractor supply or farm stores carry them.
Thank you for heads up! I'm hoping to move my shop door so I can finally actually use it for vehicles soon 🤣
I see this as a great advantage on the downhill save brake wear and tear Eg coming down the hurley into Pemberton
Absolutely, I use them all the time downhill!
Frikin A man that's the shit, that's creativity at it's best man .well done
Thank you!
Perhaps a short throw shifter kit for the R150F would be good if you decide later that your sticks interfere to much. Marlin Crawler makes one that is pretty neat.
Good idea! I was looking into those before, the body lift has my shifter a littler lower than I'd like too.
YES!!!! Do you think there is any way to do it without cutting the body? Maybe some extra linkage? Awesome work.
Unfortunately not with this setup. If your 4cyl to start the front shifter should be in correct spot though, and you can possibly fit a triple stick there.
Great video! I recently pickup up a project truck, 1988 Toyota 4x4 with the 22RE and defenetly want to do this! Thanks 👍🍻
What's a double transfer case cost just curious I got to have one
Could you just get a longer shifter with a bend that clears the sticks or just install a short throw shifter that gets rid of all the slop.
This is SO awesome, congrats.
Thank you! Cheers!
where can i find more information about this topic of double transfer cases and their properties. where did you get one of these?
Yota goals!!! So you went from 2-pc to 1-pc rear driveshaft with this setup?
Technically I went 1 piece a long time ago. I got some videos on it. Its just better 🤣
Hey there, great video, than’ you. Where did you get your triple stick system? Thanks!
It's custom made using the Trail Gear twins.
super useful for others installing duals, thanks so much for posting this. How long did this take you doing it all by yourself, and did you end needing any unexpected tools or parts during the install?
Well I was collecting parts to do this for several months. But once you have everything, assembly and install can easily be done on a day! No specialized tools required 😁
I'd never thought about this before, but would you be enable to engage them in motion? For example, creeping in traffic?
It can't be shifted into low while in motion, gotta come to dead stop. So certainly not ideal for traffic. Interesting theory though.
This definitely helped I wanna dual case my 1jz swapped 86 and it’s good to see at least a Partial chain t case to ⚙️ t case install. I was thinking about doing about a single 4.7 gear drive and maybe not having to do new drive shafts but I want twin cases 🤙🏾
Excellent mods.
Glad you like them!
Hey dude! You may not see this. But I wanted to ask how the t cases held up usuing the 23 spline adapter? I’m currently 22re with dual cases and planning for a 3.4 swap and would like to keep my current dual setup using the adapter but I’ve heard it’s hit or miss as it isn’t very reliable and may break things?
Whats up dirt garage how is the adapter and 23 spline input gear holding up. did you use gaskets for the transfercase or rtv gray silicone
The 23 spline input and whole case is holding up to my supercharged 3.4 and 37s just fine! I used gray RTV for everything.
@@DirtGarage Thanks im about to do the same adapter kit and 23 spline.Your the only one out there that has info on it. you should send some videos to trail gear and get sponsored for your promotion work .
Nice testing area. 🤔looks familiar. Lol good vid bud. I subbed. 👍
Where did you pick this up at already built. I would like to make it as easy as possible for when I swap.
Love my dual cases and triple stick. Just wait till you get to really use them
I'm so excited. Going out today 😁
when i had my doubler in my 4runner, my gear ratio was 101:1 but i also had 4.88 gears haha! man i miss that! ive already started collecting stuff to make a doubler for my truck haha! just need about 2300$ in adapters hahaha!!! damn!
Do it!!
Pretty impressive!! And I've ordered my t-shirt
I’m not much of a mechanic but I love the solid axle pickups. I used to have an 84xtra cab that I never should have sold and recently picked up an 85 22r that I’m loving so far but still getting a feel for it as it’s more heavily modified than my 84. My question is about gearing vs crawl box. I use my pickup as a feed truck on a W Montana ranch that gets a lot of snow. As far as I can tell it’s currently stock gearing, and it’s on 35x12.5 with a six inch lift. I put it in 4low and let it crawl while I pitch hay from the back. The gearing and larger tires make it too fast in 1st gear 4low. In terms of what will be easier on the truck and also easier to complete would you change to 5.29s or install a crawl box? Found your channel when I picked up the 85 and am really enjoying it. Thanks
Question is how does it feel on the highway? I kept my axle ratio stock because with the 37s and V8 it feels great and would not benefit from lower gears. To best place to re gear is in t cases, because t case gears don't effect road driving, and provide a much lower ratio than just re geared diffs would.
Good info, thank you. She may never see the highway again. Just want to make a snow beast ranch truck. My plan is to hopefully find a decent condition stock xtra cab RE and go with 2 to 3 inch lift and 33s for a daily driver.
Your making me want a old yota.
They are awesome!
They are the Best
Gonna be fun to see it crawl the boulder alley up the bruce way!
I'm excited 😁
So if it's crawling on idle. And you want to stop,you can just step on brake? And release to crawl again? Or once you brake do you have to go out of low range?
Just push in the clutch
Good video. I just put duals in this weekend as well. I didn’t hulk them up like you did though, to old for that.
Ha I used to do that too when I was young I would climb under with the transmission on my chest but I'm way too old for that now
And watching you play with those sticks makes me all kinds of gittttty
@skankhunt42 are you?
Do awesome loving these vid I’m subbed and buying merch
When you say rear case is that the crawl box or the main transfer case?
The main transfer case.
What does clutch engagement feel like with the duals? Do you have to baby it now?
Clutch feels fine. Not difficult to use, and I definitely don't want to use much throttle if any when letting out the clutch in double low, so much torque.
When I look at marlin crawlers website the only "kit" listed for my truck (93 toyota pickup v6) is the mc08 not the mc07. Is this an upgrade ?
MC07 is the older version. MC08 will work great in your 93.
Thats what I thought! Did you build yours peice by peice or get it as a whole unit?
What drive shaft did you end up running? I’ve got 2 transfer cases just have to pick up the adapter.
New driveshaft from Pats Driveline 🤘
I have a doubler behind a th350 and LS, love it! And on a side note, don’t you love the stock Toyota seats?
I love the srock SR5 seats!
Hi buddy what kinda of crossmember do you order for 4 cyl or 6 cyl or both are the same? And once again greta videos to watch better then netflix
Hello, I got the Trail Gear V6 dual crossmember. I'll add the links in the description. Thank you for the support!
Dirt Garage thanks buddy
Is the NEVER combination; 4WD and doubler only on one
So would any gear drive tcase out of a 79-90 work? Or is there a certain year I need
Pretty well any gear drive case from 79-95 as long as they are top shift!
6:14 OK just to confirm... with this dual transfer case setup, when you say both cases are in High, that means you can still run 2WD or 4WD in a 1:1 ratio, right? (not counting transmission and diff)
Yup. 2wd or 4x4 in any transfer case position. High - high, high - low, low - low. Doesn't matter.
It would probably be cheaper and easier for me to install 4.7:1 in my t case than dual cases, but which is better for me? Idk
Hey bud! Love this video. Hey question: You quickly showed your dual case setup with triple sticks. I currently have a single case with dual sticks, and I want to add a second case. What I'm still trying to figure out in my head is how you were able to get both of your t-case sticks right next to each other in your cab? The architecture of the dual cases means that the second case's stick is set behind the front case's stick....But you managed to get them right next to each other. Can you explain? Thanks mate! From one vintage Yota fanatic to the next, I love your channel!
I am running a custom made triple sticks setup on my duals. The rear case has twin sticks, but the top of the sticks are chopped off, then used small linkages attaching the rear twin sticks to a set of sticks mounted on either side of the front shifter. If you look up Radesigns triple sticks it is essentially like that.
Engine dual transfer case is for big trucks like 10 wheelers.
I don't think you know what your talking about.
My heart. I can’t wait i until I get mine
They are wicked!
Good for walking when your too drunk to drive 👍🍺👍
Haha, good one!
@@DirtGarage What happens if it's double high or one is low one is high?
@@babayaga9102 High is straight drive, double straight drive is still just 1 to 1.
@@DirtGarage but it's two 4h. if double low is better than just one 4l, shouldn't double high be better than just one 4h. I saw how cars with dual case move slowly. if you use 4h and 4l together or 4h and 4h together you get less torque than double low but you go faster.
Hi, any experience with deep snow? Does it need speed or idle it through snow would work
Idle through. Any wheel speed will cause you to sink into the snow.
I like the triple stick you got. What do you suggest putting in my 87 toy turbo?
Triple sticks are awesome! But if you have bucket seats and no center console totally not necessary. If that is the case I would put twin sticks on the rear case, that way a overall cleaner install with less moving parts, accomplishing same job.
@@DirtGarage
Wow thats great information. Yes red bucket seats. We got the motor out today and tomorrow we start to put the new turbo motor from yota 1 performance. Theres a 500 miles break in and then it will be ready. I'm going to have the r151f rebuilt and upgraded with the twin sticks in a few months thanks you for the advice.
What axle gears ?
Is your front case chain drive?
Where did you get those guards from so good
Guards? You mean the skidplate / crossmember?
@@DirtGarage front flares guards
What t/case is the doubler?
What are you gearing you running for your 3rd members?
Stock 4.56
@@DirtGarage right on! Hows the 3.4 do on the road with the 37s and 4.56s, im building first gen runner and didnt know if i should get 5.29s or just run stock gear and option out with the dual cases?
Still have the truck I need to know
im not too good with all these gear stuff but this means i can do the same process you did to my 88 3.0 pickup?
Yes, with all the same adapters I used.
can you run a single case with that set up with 4.7’s or is it for duals only
Absolutely! Only downside is 4.7 can be to low for alot of trails, and it being your only option is almost as bad as not being low enough.. Although lower gears do come in handy often!
Great job
Thank you!
Is it called dirt garage cuz you work on your rig in the dirt ?
Dirt just means offroad vehicle related really.
Hi I have trouble please I need your help trying to swap 1994 4runner 3.4 but the transmission transfer case for me diferencial is on the Right side but the new transmission has the transfer to left side me question they sale adapter plate for this problem
You use the original transmission and transfercase. Unless your running automatic.
@@DirtGarage no this manual transmission and the horijinal is automatic but I have scramble me engine is 3.4 from 1997 and my transmission is manual from 2004
@@JoseAguilar-lh5bq Ah. You need to find a manual transmission and t case from a 3.0 truck.
Ok thanks
I've been following your build thinking "mine will be just like this, except I'm going to add a crawl box." Then you go and do this
Haha! This has always been in my build plans, just alot of stuff had priority because the duals get expensive fast. Especially for a v6.
@@DirtGarage marlin crawler also offers a short shifter for the r150, which might help that set up
Right on the 'dirt' driveway...no cardboard..no nothing!! That's how it's done. ;-)
Gotta do what you gotta do to get it done!
I got the chance to grab a other transfer case for my toyota for 100 should i do it
can you run one transfer in high and the other one in low?
Yes
What did you do for your 4wd and speed sensors?
I plugged them in
@@DirtGarage shoot, I just found out I need to get a sensors for the gear drivin cases. I have the v6 tranny and the cases I purchased have no sensors in them. Thank you man. Love the content
What gear ratio in the axels? 35" tires?
4.56, and 37" tires
Doin a the same with mine, just on chevy axels and 39.5s
After 4 months with dual cases with dual 2.28 cases do you think you want 4.7 in the 2nd case eventually ? Trying to plan for the future
I have a video coming up on the duals 🤘
@@DirtGarage hell yeah I can’t wait to see it ! My buddy just got his back and with 2.28 In both, I plan to get a set made I just wanna see that 4.7 in the rear in action 🤣
Gotta shorten the rear axle?
Only have to shorten the rear driveshaft
Wonder if I could do a dual t case driver side drop
Yup! With the Marlin Crawler Taco Box.
What transmission did you get those cases from
W56
You probably asked yourself how you went so long without it !!!! throw in the 4.70 you will love them
It's got a 4.7 now! It's fantastic
Your V6 never blew the head gasket?
Nope! Swapped the 3.0 out for a supercharged 3.4 at 425K. The 3.0 was a perfect runner too, I just wanted more power.
Man that red interior is whack!!! I love it! Ya friendly heeelux fan from down unda! Whistlin diesel didnt get a hold of my dually 106!! Happy farkin days mate
Also this opens up a whole new wheeling experience for you. Hit me up if you need some info.
56 minutes!!! Ahh..ffs. I'll be welding a repair on my bumper then. Oh well, I'll watch it when I'm done. Keep 7p the good work bud!!
Haha sorry you'll have to miss the Premiere! Thank you, I will 👍
The nightmare of an auto transmission driver 😄
Walking the crawler
It was fun, now I want lower.. Haha
Can someone tell me what adapter he used from r150f to gear driven tcase
Trail Gear "V6 Adapter Kit, 3.0 V6 88-95 to 4 Cyl T-Case"
Чет быстро едет это режим 4LL? я прикидывал у меня 2,48х2,248 =6,15...... 800метров/час....
Классно что у Вас в Америке есть такие комплекты я буду делать сам то, что у Вас называют DualCase.....
Машина в видео - огонь
what axle gears
4.56
Cost to do this
@@Gokywildcats11 lots
My Geo tracker crawls that slow 😂 guess I don't need dual transfer cases
Sure it does!
Need to put a leash on that sucker! 😂
I know, its great!
Finally
Right?
cool to see another dude laying in gravel to make his toy even better.👍🇺🇸
Yo bro are you in BC ?
Yup!
You up around pemperton area
Pemberton
The title AND WHY i think we all know why
That's more less for my viewers who are into Toyotas but maybe not wheeling them. Tried to make this video a little educational.
2.28 + 2.28 = 4.56 Low Low
2.28x2.28 = 5.19, yes technically I rounded up and said 2.3
you multiply through the cases, not add.
Don't run over yourself
Haha that would be terrible.
Idle is way to high