for the sake of his career, they should trade him. No point in keeping a promising prospect rotting in the minors just because they aren't willing to affect team chemistry and give him a spot on the roster.
Could you get anything if you included Santander in a trade. I would doubt it because he looks lost at the plate to me, and disappears for days and at crucial at bats.
Santander should have been Orioles MVP last year. He hasn’t reached his peak yet. He gets better every year. It would be a big mistake to let Anthony go to either free agency or a trade.
The old Baltimore sports commentator Charlie Eckman had a saying about trades-----Northing for nothing produces nothing. If you want to acquire an impact player you have to give something up that makes for an impact player for the other team. This means top prospects have to be in play otherwise Charlie Eckman saying rules.
agree, this organization needs to be more decisive. even if they aren't doing for their own sake, they should trade him for Coby's sake. He's been toiling in the minors 3 years now. No point in keeping a promising prospect rotting in the minors just because they aren't willing to affect team chemistry and give him a spot on the roster.
If Kremer is the current #3 then we are talking about #4 and Cade Povich is learning to pitch at #5. That starter is a affordable rental no significant prospects. If we are talking about a reliever for the long haul use a prospect there. I would prefer the O's take a hard look at post Bradish and Means and maybe post Irvin and trying to sign Burnes and sign another pitcher to a multi year contract in the off season which to me is a lot to get done.
Yeah. Burnes, Rodriguez, and Kremer is a good starting three. I rather they go with that then give up all their future starting prospects. To me they absolutely should not trade Jackson, Cowser, Kjerstad, or Mayo. There's starting positions for all 4 of them next season. Both Cowser and Kjerstad are getting playing time now, and even this season if Jackson's arm is healed he could play 2B and Mayo could platoon at DH.
@@dogtrainingplus I like Dean Kremer, but he's way too inconsistent to be a number 3 pitcher. On a really good team like, the Orioles, anyway. I haven't seen enough to have much faith that he would win in the post season. Garret Crochet or Tarik Skubal, if the Tigers are willing to move him, is the way to go imo.
trade from a position of strength, and until prospects are proven in the Show then they are nothing more than pieces to make the big league club better. I get it, fans in Baltimore will always live in a world where fear of regret is a real thing. its what happens when you've seen years of trades made and those players go on to be successful with their new club. But this front office should be changing that perspective. Its ok to let go of some of these guys, not just for the team but for the players too. So the question is would you trade Mayo for a shot at the world series if you could look in the crystal ball and saw him as an all star HOF player?
Fortunately Elias seems conservative when it comes to trading. If he can get Burnes for Ortiz as the headliner then he can get us pitching without giving up Mayo, Holliday, Basallo, Kjerstad, or Cowser.
When is the Dillon Tate experiment going to be over? How many runs does he have to allow? And in how many consecutive appearances? I’m telling you man, this team is seriously underachieving and this a serious issue. Elias doesn’t need to do anything he already has a championship ball club on the field. But they’re being managed into the ground.
Elias has never drafted pitchers high, maybe because Astros got burned by a couple of them most notably Mark Appel when he was in Houston. Unless he plans to win every game 10-8, he has to trade a few of his precious position player prospects to get more pitching. I'd like to see them trade for Cal Quantrill who quietly has had a good season pitching for Rockies this season. He has one more year of control after this season.
Mayo needs to be put in the Orioles lineup right now. They are getting shut down at the plate. Eight of the last 17 games that they have scored three runs or less
Part 3 The reason? Say what you will About the man, maybe he’s never won a World Series, but that is only ever hung over the head of a guy that everyone expects to win the fall classic and until he does he’s cursed by all accounts and inadequate by the rest. His real problem is that he keeps getting to the dance with teams that have no business making it there and every time the GM gets the last pieces, they boot him and he watches someone else follow his model right to a ring. But our fan mantra that year was “in Buck we trust” because we really did and he did not disappoint. Managers are there to put guys in the best position to succeed and then get the best version of themselves out of them everyday, make them better than they knew they could be everyday. Hyde is making everything more difficult and I thought the shift in the dugout presence between the players was due to something that happened and caused some dissension between players, but now I see what it is and why they seemed to be trying to portray an image of everything being alright and hide the shift in emotion, because of what’s causing it. I’m telling you, this team is on the verge of a total collapse. He is destroying the team. I know what I’m talking about, but as per usual, no one will hear me because I don’t have the proper platform. And I’ll wind up crying my eyes out sobbing as I mutter, “I tried to tell you, I tried to do something”. Ryan, interview a player and indirectly poke and prod at the possibility of what I’m talking about being a reality. You’re obviously a reputable, stand up individual and an honest man, they will know they can trust you and confide in you. If I’m right, I don’t care about knowing I’m right or getting some sort of affirmation, I care about the right people knowing I speak the truth so they can do something about it before it’s too late. As it stands right now, if nothing is done, Elias is better off being a seller for this trade deadline and getting some solid depth pieces and forcing Hyde to play the only team available to him everyday with the rest in AAA like Billy Beane in Moneyball. Short of that, we are only fighting to win everyday to set ourselves up for a failure that won’t have the impact the loss last year had where we are hungry for another chance, it will result in the kind of confidence decimation that leads to people everywhere saying you’re a regular season team not a playoff team. You’re built for 162 but not for 1. And that evolves into playoff monkeys and those turn good playoff players into corpses with bats. Tom Brady is Tom Brady because of how he was introduced to the postseason. As a backup with no expectation to succeed by anyone in the league aside from maybe himself so there was no pressure and since he never expected to go from damn near the last pick of the draft to the starter so he just let it all hang out and played care free, and he won a Super Bowl. So from that point forward he had no respect for postseason ghosts and goblins, playoff woes or big game choking. So every time he lost the playoffs the fans and media brushed it off faster than he did, it’s not like he never lost. And if not for Atlanta and Seattle having the greatest Super Bowl collapses in history, he would be 5-5 in the Super Bowl instead of 7-3. Even those though, those wins were influenced by his lack of postseason nerves and the other teams overwhelming themselves with the idea of “am I really about to beat Brady and Bellichick?’ So once they got momentum against Atlanta they collapsed simultaneously when keeping pace would have ended the game at the start of the 4th quarter just based on time. And how else do you explain the worst play call in the history of sports? Not giving the ball to a guy the players even call “the beast” on the goal line with 3 snaps to work with…. My point is the consequences here are severe in nation and in swiftness. If we don’t act fast, it could get away from us before we are able to prevent anything. Please brother. I wouldn’t have sacrificed my night and some of my morning sleep to type this with my eyes half closed from Exhaustion if this wasn’t the most serious thing in my life and I mean that with the utmost sincerity. We are infected. If we don’t cut it out we will have to amputate and that’s if we are lucky, but soon we will become septic and an amputation will not get it done, it could lead to total dismemberment. I’ve seen this before, if you think about it you have as well. It happened here when we all thought Duquette was solid, and I screamed and yelled but no one heard me and then he got the Davis deal done and from there God Almighty himself would have been hopeless in attempting to save us from the damage he had done. Nearly a decade later, here we are, saved only by Mr Rubenstein’s group when they’d purchased the team, but the contract itself still looms and lingers overhead. A reminder, one that we really ought to pay attention to given this serious and unfortunate circumstance we find ourselves trapped in now. I pray you take heed, but above all I pray success is found on our behalves in preventing this ghastly possibility that grows and roots deeper everyday into an irreparable and irrevocable consequence. God speed and good fortune.
He doesn’t get it. Mayo is not just a prospect. He has a potential generational bat. Same with Basallo. I’d rather not make a trade if it involves trading these guys. It will almost 100% backfire
3 years toiling away in the minors Not fair to keep his career stagnant like that. If the Orioles aren't willing to risk affecting chemistry by giving him a roster spot, let him progress his career somewhere else.
I lied. I watched it. He answered the question himself. The finish line isn’t guaranteed. Aggressive trades or not. Nothing promised. The future is though. Keep the talent, win a lot of baseball games for a lot of years. Trade them and maybe you win it all this year, maybe you don’t, but you gotta be in it to win it and that’s what we have in spades right now. No reason to tamper recklessly.
Brandon Hyde has to go. Seriously. I’ve never seen such a bad manager. He treats these guys like they’re veterans. He’s got the whole team off balance. He is the funk. They can’t get any form of consistency. Everyday guys are playing different positions, hitting in different spots of the order, if they’re playing at all. And he’s treating Adley like he’s 36. Can’t catch 3 days in a row. He needs to catch everyday. He needs to establish himself as the quarterback of this pitching staff. He needs to learn that role comfortably without it impacting his hitting. It’s insane. And if we aren’t going to play any small ball at all and work on manufacturing runs rendering us incapable of bunting in October, then why do we need guys for their gloves and sacrifice the bats if we are strictly playing for big innings. If you’re not playing for one run games you don’t need defensive installments. Get Norby and Mayo up here, send Mateo and Urias down. Mountcastle needs to sit for a while. He’s become a wasted at bat. Something is wrong. He’s uncomfortable. And Mullins doesn’t have it right now. And if we are playing for big innings everyday we can’t carry their bats for their gloves. He needs to make a lineup card and leave it alone for a week. Stop F***ING WITH THESE KIDS YOURE THE BEST PLAYER ON THE OTHER TEAM EVERYDAY HYDE. I’m sorry he’s just not cut out for this and Elias blew it with him big time. He’s gotta go. He will not be able to manage against playoff teams, bochy has made a complete fool of him multiple times. These guys need to play everyday, in the same position, at the same spot in the lineup, everyday. They need to get comfortable, settle in, build momentum and consistency. 1. Gunnar SS 2. Rutsch C(EVERYDAY he’s not fragile!) 3. O’Hearn 1B 4. Santander RF 5. Kjerstad LF 6. Westburg 3B 7. Cowser CF 8. Mayo DH 9. Norby 2B Let them play everyday like they have already been doing together throughout the minors. Let them hit their stride. I’d rather suffer through their growing pains with the benefit of them finding themselves and reaching their potential versus hoping Mullins stops slumping, or Mounty gets his head straight or taking Urias and Mateo for their gloves. This is our future team. They’re ready, the people in front of them aren’t getting it done, the baseball Gods are screaming at us and we aren’t listening. This is ridiculous. This is why we aren’t hitting, this is why we are never sharp after an off day. This guy is a problem for real and he’s gotta go. Managers don’t slump, this is who he is, he does nothing for the team other than hurt their game play. Seriously this is really bad the way he’s been doing this. Go through the lineups for a couple weeks of games. He moves people around like they’re playing backyard wiffle ball. He’s out of his depth. He’s a bench coach, assistant, he’s not a manager in any way, shape or form. This team needs consistency. The raw talent of this team is overshadowing his ineptitude and it’s dangerous. I almost wish we were having consecutive losing seasons so Elias would be forced to fire him. He’s gotta go immediately. I’m dead serious. This guy is gonna cost us championships. We have a first time manager undertaking the most difficult thing for a manager and that’s setting up young talent to blossom and bloom to their full potential and he’s hampering them significantly. You have to do something Ryan this is serious. He is out of his depth. Cal has to step in. Just look at the facts, go through the games look at the lineup, the changes, the pitch selection on defense, it’s all managerial. And no one is noticing because of how well we are doing in spite of this, but it’s not going to work in October, no way we should have one 101 games, and get swept for the first time in over a year. It’s Hyde. I’m telling you we will have the 1-2 seed this year and get swept again if he’s still running unchecked. Cal needs to tell him how important it is to let rookies and young players in general settle in, get comfortable, find a routine that works for them everyday so they can repeat what they do everyday to achieve the same results everyday which will be a lot of winning for us. Santander and Ohearn stay, but everyone else has to get out of the way to give the rookies in AAA a chance to find that same comfort, routine and success. I know not the only one who sees this because it’s blaring. To a point where I have to assume he sees it and it’s leading to more bad decisions and forced issues on his behalf. We have been going back and forth with 24 games over since the Yankee series. No one has noticed that we have played .500 baseball since that series overall and we are only back up to 24 games over now because we scraped out two series wins despite playing poorly compared to our capability. That’s not going to keep Happening and if it does we will absolutely get swept in October. Again, brings in the wrong reliever, these guys would succeed if they were managed properly. No one notices that one day Akin is unhittable and the next he can’t get an out, Webb is lights out and then every other pitch finds the seats. Cano had one of the best stretches of pitching by a reliever in baseball history and has been a liability ever since. Another guy scraping out a win every time he comes out. This is managerial stuff not player related. They have great stuff, but they’re not getting what they need from the coaching staff because they’re being put in positions where they can’t succeed. Look man, the bottom line is, we have a potential dynasty on our hands with all this young talent at this caliber, but a rookie manager cannot be at the helm of that and it’s going to cost us dearly. This team is better than this, they’re underperforming as a whole, and I’m sure Cal will know that’s based on the manager not the player. It’s one thing to give players time to develop and mature into solid big leaguers, but it’s another thing to entertain that same process with a manager. PLEASE GET HIM OUT OF THERE!!! Why doesn’t Billy manage? Billy was no player, by any means, but Billy not only has the make up to manage he has the DNA of arguably the best manager to ever live in him. Look how deflated this team is. We were down 5. You’re telling me they don’t know they could score 5 in the blink of an eye? Because every time we fall behind by 4 or more, we literally stop hitting as an entire team. How did we go from the comeback team of the year last year to having the best offense in baseball and being done for if we are down 4-0 in the 3rd. PLEASE FIX IT RYAN YOU HAVE THE POWER!!! Go to pops, he will fix it. Look at Gunnar. All of sudden he chases pitches in the dirt. It’s crazy. It’s like they decided to play tomorrow in the 4th inning. We can’t sit by and do nothing. Do something because I won’t sit by idly.
Crochet should not be a consideration for the O's unless he's going to be a bp piece. Why do that when they could trade Basallo straight up for Miller?
Can’t believe this is real… can’t believe this is happening… my faith tells me we will overcome this because we have endured so much penance to get us to the precipice of redemption it must be real. So this must be within our power to overcome without jumping to drastic solutions, but there can be no limitation in the commitment to overcome this, none whatsoever.
We need Coby to replace Mountcastle at 1b. Love Mounty but his health has been a factor the past 2 years. So we need a power right handed bat to replace him and Coby would be great there!
The way Rip smiled with instinctual pride when Steve called our defense air tight around the diamond. That’s Cal Sr’s blood in your veins my man, calling from the great beyond. It’s weird how much I value defense, and no other fans of other teams seem to care. I cringe when I think about sacrificing defense. That’s why I’d trade Hays before Urias. Hays is a dope outfielder, but that hot corner defense is so incredibly sexy. Air tight, loveeeeee it. Gimme a 1-0 win with 8 web gems and I’ll watch that game 100 times. I rewatch homers sometimes for sure, but not like the defensive artwork, especially infield gems with the hot corner being the holy grail.
You just answered you're own question. When he's on he's good when he's not he sucks which lands him at 4 or 5 in a rotation which isn't a bad thing but that's just who he is
@Dan-md3hr I wouldn't go as far as to say he sucks but he's jot what we thought he was gonna be and that sucks because we really needed someone to step up right now and doesn't look lile were going to get that
You CANNOT trade Mayo. I'd trade Holiday before Mayo or Connor Norby before Mayo. You cannot find a guy with that size, power and athleticism easily. Trading Mayo would be like trading a young Arron Judge or Manny Ramirez. The Orioles have other talent that they can trade without trading Mayo, Holiday, Basallo or McDermott. Trade Beavers, Norby along with a Stowers who is wasting away in AAA or we also have some rule 5 eligible guys that we could trade as depth with one of the guys mentioned like Hudson Haskin or Anthony Servideo. We have some talent. Even Blake Hunt is still a solid prospect just not in our system eventhough he landed in our lap. Just don't trade Mayo. The kid is not even 23 yet and is a beast. We need him late this year and next year once Urias and Mateo are gone. Trade Cal Ripken if you have to just not Mayo 😂.
We should not be not traded. He is a corner infielder/ dh and with Ryan Montcastle health issues and plate struggles we need to keep Mayo! Also I would prefer not to trade Conner Mayo as he is a better hitting second basemen than Jorge Mateo!
Would you empty out most of the top prospects for De la Cruz and Paul Skenes? Hypothetical question, because I doubt either team would be willing to move on from their stars
The most important text I’ve ever typed, Part 1 I should have known better. I let the Os do it to me again. Sucked me in, got me all excited and geared up, just in time to start to really notice how bad our manager is and the last thing the Angelos did apparently was the one thing they never do, spend money and give the manager a contract extension. Making sure we had the worst possible guy, the one guy that apparently is capable of tearing down a phenomenal team. We will wind up sticking with him, the prospects will wind up with other clubs and I’ll spend another decade watching our players win championships with other teams while we return to our “circle win” status on everyone else’s schedule across the league. “Oh we have Baltimore that week? That’s a win. *circles game on schedule* When do we get to see them again?” Angelos strikes again. I wish I had the gall or capability to do something about it myself. The Detroit tigers were losing 6-0 to the Guardians and came back and tied the game up. We fell behind the cubs by 5 in the 4th and turned into single A Delmarva against a big league ball club and here I am watching another team play instead of being able to enjoy my Orioles. Damn you Hyde. Damn you Angelos. Damnit. I can’t believe this. Look at Vogt with Cleveland. We couldn’t have gotten him for our rookie manager? We had to land the bench coach of a team that won a decade ago and then returned to their losing ways. If you think he learned anything being under Joe Maddon you’re insane. Spent years up against him, Brandon Hyde couldn’t shine his shoes. He’s so bad. It’s unreal. We are seriously going to go from potential dynasty to doormat just as quickly as we went from 100 losses to 100 wins. Nobody realized how bad he was when we lost 120 games? You thought that was because of the team. No big league team is that bad. It’s impossible. No matter what they’re part of the best 780 players in the world. I can’t believe Elias inherited him and hasn’t gotten rid of him by now. People we have to get through to Mike. We have to do something. We can’t just sit by and let this happen. We can’t let this slip away. Please. I need a World Series win. I can’t live my whole life and never see an Orioles World Series. Oh my god this can’t be for real. I’m having a panic attack. The baseball Gods finally blessed us with draft talent after all those years of 1st overall picks being complete and utter busts. We paid our dues. WHY ARE YOU DOING THIS TO US?!?!!!!!?!!! W H Y ? ! PLEASE DONT DO THIS TO US I WILL DO ANYTHING!!! Hsbsksjsnzbjsnznzksjsbsmzjzbsjzjsbzhsbsbzhzbzbzjsnsnsnaja anskjsjdndjsjzhajsjsjsjaj AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH HOW IS THIS POSSIBLE?!!?! BEST DRAFT PICKS OVER THREE DRAFTS IN HISTORY AND WE GET BACKDOORED BY A DISMAL MANAGER CRUSHING OUR HOPES AND DREAMS?!?!?! THERES TOO MUCH AT STAKE THIS CANT BE REAL! Cal please. This has to be why the baseball Gods created a situation that led to you being an owner. Only you can save us Cal. I’m so serious. I know this probably comes off crazy and like some kind of rant tantrum but I know you see it too because I know the one thing I know is baseball. I bleed baseball. It is my sustenance, my life support, my saving grace, my EVERYTHING!! Life did not bless me, and countless mistakes on my behalf have not improved that situation, but I’ve always had the game. I dealt with the losing. I hung in there every year as little glimmers of hope and silver linings would give me enough to grind out the season with the guys. This was our redemption, our pot of gold at the end of the rainbow, the end of the tunnel after we followed the light and here we are, controlling the drivers seat, controlling our destiny the rest of the way, but there’s a massive road block in our path as we sit on a decrepit bridge, the road behind us swallowed by the sea, the path ahead blocked, the bridge beneath our feet deteriorating. Cal, please, as you have done so many times for us, for baseball as a whole, for the entire country, you saved baseball in America and you know it, but we need saving now. We are about to have the bottom fall out and suffer greatly via slowly drowning. We are about to become the Red Sox fans of yesteryear. Our faces are about to become the new everyday dejected faces, we are about to be the new memes throughout the internet. Please Cal, we need you man. When I saw the announcement that you were an owner, that was the moment I relaxed my shoulders, exhaled and told myself, we are going to be okay, we are going to do this, Cal always delivers, he doesn’t do losing. The ship is about to be pulled out from under the sea, back on track and restored to former glory. Then Gunnar showed up for his sophomore season and everything just kept clicking. There were just some unusual anomalies along the way that I couldn’t explain. So I ignored it and just made comments here and there when Hyde’s presence couldn’t go unnoticed along with his mistakes. Things kept getting better with the team week after week, series after series, but the looming cloud just kept resurfacing. Then the cloud started to grow and darken after that first game against Houston on the heels of a historical blowout in the Bronx and there was something just not right about how we responded to the runs scored against us and how we handled it. Then we go up 1-0 early in game 2 courtesy of Westy and then they scored in the next half inning and it felt like they scored 100 runs. We gradually, pitch by pitch, became a different team and it didn’t stop until Grayson came out and battled his butt off, almost as a separate limb of the team unaffected by whatever was happening to the position players, and gave us 7 with 2 solo shots accounting for all their runs against him and willed us out of that losing streak. If he didn’t pitch the 7th I think Mullins strikes out instead of hitting the go head homer. You could feel the emotion. The dedication and utter defiance of another loss and Grayson’s performance juiced Ced’s bat and we ran off the next 4, but nothing felt right the whole time and hasn’t felt right since. Then today I was responding to Ryan’s question to his audience about how we would do against the Cubs essentially and I wound up rambling in one direction after another and I truly couldn’t figure out what was going to happen at all, let alone winning or losing. That never happens. You always have a feel for your team to an extent. You know when the bats are right there and about to break out or if they’re just in a funk and can’t put it together at all. So you can make more than educated guess and I have been able to at least make certain determinations that I know are safe bets and majority of the time I’m right as I know many of the other more hardcore fans have the same experiences everyday, but I’ve completely lost my connection to the team. It’s unreal, inexplicable. All my life with the game in front of me, and I feel like I was on a hot streak with baseballs the size of watermelons jumping off the barrel of my bat, to suddenly feeling blind and deaf, the balls went from watermelons to peas. And after hitting that wall while attempting to provide a quality prediction, the game started, the lineup all wonky again, Kremer obviously dealing with some kind of finger issue and nobody went out to see, nobody seemed to notice, even the broadcasters. And it was just one small thing after another, pitch calling, Kremer getting swing and misses with his fastball and he refused to keep throwing it for some reason. Then Adley with another day at the plate where he shows all the signs he used to show when he was about to turn a mini-slump into a series dump(hit out of his shoes for a day)and he just stayed right in it. Didn’t seem to barrel up anything even with a couple knocks. Then we decided to pitch to the only good hitter on their team, the only guy I ever seem to see on highlight reels for the cubs on quick pitch, MLB tonight, sports center, any of them, despite having two outs, with two on and first base literally open, meaning no force outs available at any base on a ground ball, in a 2 run game in the 4th and managed to get him 0-2 then 1-2 and somehow gave him a pitch that he was able to hit a mile despite clearly swinging with a two strike approach so he actually hit it out unintentionally to a degree.
2… Definitely wasn’t thinking 3 run bomb by the way we swung and finished, but that’s all he was thinking as soon as it left the bat, no doubter. And then it all clicked when I saw the best offense in baseball, last years comeback club, which we were that earlier this year too, but that seems to have died. Anyway, I saw the best offense in baseball, down by 5 in the 4th against a pitcher we already took deep and nearly took deep two other times already to that point in the game and he had already been saved by some uncharacteristically strong defensive plays, so we were definitely knocking at the door of a big inning, but it was like everyone died. Suddenly I realized that they had been given an excuse to stop playing between the lead size and there being 2 games left in the series, and so we were suddenly stiff as a board, lifeless, completely flat at the plate. It was staring me in the face the whole time. All the anomalies. Top staff in the AL, but is constantly susceptible to double digit runs. Best offense in baseball but can’t seem to overcome a deficit beyond 4 runs. Top tier defense that is capable of making really bad errors, run scoring errors, mental fumbles and inexcusable blunders. One day a reliever is lights out, the next he’s doing the same thing, but can’t record an out. You have no idea how long this list really is and how specific I can get, and you’ll see too once you’re looking for it. This team is being completely mismanaged. I’m telling you it’s so significant I genuinely wonder if it’s being done purposely instead of nervously. Our players are being challenged in ways that will never benefit them, overwhelmed in ways that guarantee instability and that they will be completely off balance. They are being put in positions that they couldn’t possibly succeed in and it’s much more extensive than you realize. Remember, Tony hit .202 and .206 respectively in April and May. Mullins is having the worst offensive year of his career. Mountcastle has struggled all year but it’s been overshadowed by his supporting cast and by timely home runs in places where he usually hits out of his shoes instead of the .315BA with 1 or 2 homers in a four game series he has posted this year, it’s usually 3-4 homers with at least one multi HR game, which is another thing Mounty always used to do, but now he seems to hit one and then maybe another to the warning track from a guy that has always had the power to muscle warning track shots over the wall instead and he certainly never thinks he got all of it and turns out to be wrong. And where did the patented Mounty line drive hooking into the corner into left or a low line drive on a rope down the first base line. Instead we are seeing him roll over fastballs but get lucky that they stay fair and sneak through the infield like the bases loaded double against Gil. That’s another thing, when did Mounty become an automatic 3rd out every time he’s up with 2 outs. I’d love to see a stat breakdown of his ABs whenever there are two outs versus no outs. I mean he looks like a different ball player. Mullins went from squaring everything but right at guys and still fought everyday showing visible emotion to battle back to what he’s used to and lately it feels like he’s indifferent about it. There’s a plague in the dugout, and it’s spreading. No one has realized that since the 17 run win against the Yankees we have played sub .500 baseball. We were 24 games over 500 following that win, today we fell to 23 again. We haven’t been able to pass 24 over in just under 3 weeks of baseball. 6-7 over 13 games and that includes a few wins on this last roadtrip that EASILY could have gone the other way with how we played. The offensive success of April and May have overshadowed the fact that we have gone from just under 6 runs:game to under 5 which takes a good bit of low scoring games after 90 games played and with the 8-11 run games we will have during a losing effort. Our run differential has gone from over 130 to 106 in less than 3 weeks. I’m telling you, we aren’t seeing what’s happening because of shadows cast over it in every direction, but if we want to avoid another demoralizing postseason, we have to plug the artery immediately or we are going to be bled out when we scuffle into October. Where we will justify it with the classic playoff quote, “anything can happen, ya just gotta get in”. That’s simply not entirely true because anything can only happen if you’re playing and you believe in everyone around you including your official leader, commander and chief of the dugout, your manager. The 2012 Orioles had no business having a winning season, but they won 93? Games that year and came up a couple games short of winning the division if memory serves. We won the 1 game wild card playoff against Texas in Arlington and had a great 5 game series with NY where they took game 5 and only won the series because Raul Ibanez in his age 93 season hit a game tying homer in the 8th? And a game winner in the 10th earlier and they stole what would have been an elimination game. We had a bullpen of misfits that turned into the best bullpen in baseball, a rotation filled with first round BUSTS and #5 starters, but they pitched well above their ability and the lineup went from the team that played their best game of the year in 2011 by playing spoiler for the Red Sox in what’s referred to as “day 162”, and turned into a powerhouse home run smashing unit.
Mayo's future is likely at first, not third. Holliday will lock down second, and Westburg will lock down third long-term. If Mayo is truly going to hit 40 HRs, there is NO ONE worth trading him for. There isn't any top-notch ace who is on the market right now and will be more valuable than that. And it is definitely not Crochet. You want to open up space for him, trade Mountcastle. Mounty is a good first baseman, but his power numbers are dropping. Still, he would be an upgrade for many teams, like Seattle for instance. Next season, you could have Henderson, Mayo, and Kjerstad in the lineup, all with 40+ HR potential. Throw in Adley and Westburg with 20+ power and that is a formidable lineup. Is Melewski Crochet's agent? He is a vastly overrated pitcher who has already pitched more innings this season than he had in his entire career entering this season, AND he is coming off a major arm injury in 2022. No thanks. I'd rather see them chase somebody like Bryce Miller on Seattle, a team with excess pitching and absolutely no hitting. Mounty, Norby, and Stowers...? That would give them three starters better than anyone they have already.
Not watching this. Shut up Steve. Sorry I love you dude but Coby Mayo? No way dude, you crazy? Same for Holliday, Kjerstad, Basallo, Bradfield, all pitching prospects experiencing moderate success and all the big league guys except the bench guys like Hays, Mateo, Urias, maybe, but no one else. DYNASTY STEVE. NOT 2024 AL EAST CHAMPS. DYNASTY!!!! Maybe Bradfield because we have nowhere to put him, but right now he’s valuable depth that we don’t need to part with at all.
If they do trade for a pitcher or bullpen arm , the Orioles need to trade for a pitcher that is worth it and stay to play here next year. I wouldn’t want to trade the prospects for a rental that you trade your guys and then end up losing the guy you traded for in the offseason.
Mayo better not be traded !!!!
Yes why not sell him while his stock is high , batting avg has dropped since July .
@@howardsun His value isn't near as high as it will be once he hits in the majors. And he will hit.
Please trade Cowser!
Orioles fans aren't used to winning. You have to trade players like Mayo to win a title. To say he better not be traded is very foolish
for the sake of his career, they should trade him. No point in keeping a promising prospect rotting in the minors just because they aren't willing to affect team chemistry and give him a spot on the roster.
At 4:03 When Santander will likely go in free agency, the team is going to need Kjerstad for RF next year.
100% agree
Doubtful. He'll be at 1st base before too long.
Could you get anything if you included Santander in a trade. I would doubt it because he looks lost at the plate to me, and disappears for days and at crucial at bats.
Santander should have been Orioles MVP last year. He hasn’t reached his peak yet. He gets better every year. It would be a big mistake to let Anthony go to either free agency or a trade.
The old Baltimore sports commentator Charlie Eckman had a saying about trades-----Northing for nothing produces nothing. If you want to acquire an impact player you have to give something up that makes for an impact player for the other team. This means top prospects have to be in play otherwise Charlie Eckman saying rules.
agree, this organization needs to be more decisive. even if they aren't doing for their own sake, they should trade him for Coby's sake. He's been toiling in the minors 3 years now. No point in keeping a promising prospect rotting in the minors just because they aren't willing to affect team chemistry and give him a spot on the roster.
You guys are great Thank you.
If we got Mason Miller? HELL, YEAH.
Crochett, Fedde & good bullpen arm.... Perhaps. I think White Sox would be better off with Norby and Stowers and perhaps Beavers or maybe Fabian
I think you need more than that. Who or which two do you need to add.
If Kremer is the current #3 then we are talking about #4 and Cade Povich is learning to pitch at #5. That starter is a affordable rental no significant prospects. If we are talking about a reliever for the long haul use a prospect there. I would prefer the O's take a hard look at post Bradish and Means and maybe post Irvin and trying to sign Burnes and sign another pitcher to a multi year contract in the off season which to me is a lot to get done.
Yeah. Burnes, Rodriguez, and Kremer is a good starting three. I rather they go with that then give up all their future starting prospects. To me they absolutely should not trade Jackson, Cowser, Kjerstad, or Mayo. There's starting positions for all 4 of them next season. Both Cowser and Kjerstad are getting playing time now, and even this season if Jackson's arm is healed he could play 2B and Mayo could platoon at DH.
@@dogtrainingplus Glad we have a great GM in Elias. HQ must be cooking.
@@dogtrainingplus I like Dean Kremer, but he's way too inconsistent to be a number 3 pitcher. On a really good team like, the Orioles, anyway. I haven't seen enough to have much faith that he would win in the post season. Garret Crochet or Tarik Skubal, if the Tigers are willing to move him, is the way to go imo.
trade from a position of strength, and until prospects are proven in the Show then they are nothing more than pieces to make the big league club better. I get it, fans in Baltimore will always live in a world where fear of regret is a real thing. its what happens when you've seen years of trades made and those players go on to be successful with their new club. But this front office should be changing that perspective. Its ok to let go of some of these guys, not just for the team but for the players too. So the question is would you trade Mayo for a shot at the world series if you could look in the crystal ball and saw him as an all star HOF player?
I don't care what package they put together as long as Coby Mayo is NOT in it. C'mon, man. No way.
Fortunately Elias seems conservative when it comes to trading. If he can get Burnes for Ortiz as the headliner then he can get us pitching without giving up Mayo, Holliday, Basallo, Kjerstad, or Cowser.
When is the Dillon Tate experiment going to be over? How many runs does he have to allow? And in how many consecutive appearances? I’m telling you man, this team is seriously underachieving and this a serious issue. Elias doesn’t need to do anything he already has a championship ball club on the field. But they’re being managed into the ground.
Elias has never drafted pitchers high, maybe because Astros got burned by a couple of them most notably Mark Appel when he was in Houston. Unless he plans to win every game 10-8, he has to trade a few of his precious position player prospects to get more pitching. I'd like to see them trade for Cal Quantrill who quietly has had a good season pitching for Rockies this season. He has one more year of control after this season.
Also, Crochet is post Tommy John and innings pitched for this year is already high. Just saying.
Mayo needs to be put in the Orioles lineup right now. They are getting shut down at the plate. Eight of the last 17 games that they have scored three runs or less
Part 3
The reason? Say what you will
About the man, maybe he’s never won a World Series, but that is only ever hung over the head of a guy that everyone expects to win the fall classic and until he does he’s cursed by all accounts and inadequate by the rest. His real problem is that he keeps getting to the dance with teams that have no business making it there and every time the GM gets the last pieces, they boot him and he watches someone else follow his model right to a ring. But our fan mantra that year was “in Buck we trust” because we really did and he did not disappoint. Managers are there to put guys in the best position to succeed and then get the best version of themselves out of them everyday, make them better than they knew they could be everyday. Hyde is making everything more difficult and I thought the shift in the dugout presence between the players was due to something that happened and caused some dissension between players, but now I see what it is and why they seemed to be trying to portray an image of everything being alright and hide the shift in emotion, because of what’s causing it. I’m telling you, this team is on the verge of a total collapse. He is destroying the team. I know what I’m talking about, but as per usual, no one will hear me because I don’t have the proper platform. And I’ll wind up crying my eyes out sobbing as I mutter, “I tried to tell you, I tried to do something”. Ryan, interview a player and indirectly poke and prod at the possibility of what I’m talking about being a reality. You’re obviously a reputable, stand up individual and an honest man, they will know they can trust you and confide in you. If I’m right, I don’t care about knowing I’m right or getting some sort of affirmation, I care about the right people knowing I speak the truth so they can do something about it before it’s too late. As it stands right now, if nothing is done, Elias is better off being a seller for this trade deadline and getting some solid depth pieces and forcing Hyde to play the only team available to him everyday with the rest in AAA like Billy Beane in Moneyball. Short of that, we are only fighting to win everyday to set ourselves up for a failure that won’t have the impact the loss last year had where we are hungry for another chance, it will result in the kind of confidence decimation that leads to people everywhere saying you’re a regular season team not a playoff team. You’re built for 162 but not for 1. And that evolves into playoff monkeys and those turn good playoff players into corpses with bats. Tom Brady is Tom Brady because of how he was introduced to the postseason. As a backup with no expectation to succeed by anyone in the league aside from maybe himself so there was no pressure and since he never expected to go from damn near the last pick of the draft to the starter so he just let it all hang out and played care free, and he won a Super Bowl. So from that point forward he had no respect for postseason ghosts and goblins, playoff woes or big game choking. So every time he lost the playoffs the fans and media brushed it off faster than he did, it’s not like he never lost. And if not for Atlanta and Seattle having the greatest Super Bowl collapses in history, he would be 5-5 in the Super Bowl instead of 7-3. Even those though, those wins were influenced by his lack of postseason nerves and the other teams overwhelming themselves with the idea of “am I really about to beat Brady and Bellichick?’ So once they got momentum against Atlanta they collapsed simultaneously when keeping pace would have ended the game at the start of the 4th quarter just based on time. And how else do you explain the worst play call in the history of sports? Not giving the ball to a guy the players even call “the beast” on the goal line with 3 snaps to work with…. My point is the consequences here are severe in nation and in swiftness. If we don’t act fast, it could get away from us before we are able to prevent anything. Please brother. I wouldn’t have sacrificed my night and some of my morning sleep to type this with my eyes half closed from
Exhaustion if this wasn’t the most serious thing in my life and I mean that with the utmost sincerity. We are infected. If we don’t cut it out we will have to amputate and that’s if we are lucky, but soon we will become septic and an amputation will not get it done, it could lead to total dismemberment. I’ve seen this before, if you think about it you have as well. It happened here when we all thought Duquette was solid, and I screamed and yelled but no one heard me and then he got the Davis deal done and from there God Almighty himself would have been hopeless in attempting to save us from the damage he had done. Nearly a decade later, here we are, saved only by Mr Rubenstein’s group when they’d purchased the team, but the contract itself still looms and lingers overhead. A reminder, one that we really ought to pay attention to given this serious and unfortunate circumstance we find ourselves trapped in now. I pray you take heed, but above all I pray success is found on our behalves in preventing this ghastly possibility that grows and roots deeper everyday into an irreparable and irrevocable consequence. God speed and good fortune.
He doesn’t get it. Mayo is not just a prospect. He has a potential generational bat. Same with Basallo. I’d rather not make a trade if it involves trading these guys. It will almost 100% backfire
No no no! Hold the Mayo!
3 years toiling away in the minors Not fair to keep his career stagnant like that. If the Orioles aren't willing to risk affecting chemistry by giving him a roster spot, let him progress his career somewhere else.
If mayo doesn't fit the bill at 3rd DH him and work him at 1st
Hell NO! too a Mayo trade! It's not necessary!
I lied. I watched it. He answered the question himself. The finish line isn’t guaranteed. Aggressive trades or not. Nothing promised. The future is though. Keep the talent, win a lot of baseball games for a lot of years. Trade them and maybe you win it all this year, maybe you don’t, but you gotta be in it to win it and that’s what we have in spades right now. No reason to tamper recklessly.
Very interesting but I say no.If a player can hit like Coby you have to find a place for him in your line-up.
Brandon Hyde has to go. Seriously. I’ve never seen such a bad manager. He treats these guys like they’re veterans. He’s got the whole team off balance. He is the funk. They can’t get any form of consistency. Everyday guys are playing different positions, hitting in different spots of the order, if they’re playing at all. And he’s treating Adley like he’s 36. Can’t catch 3 days in a row. He needs to catch everyday. He needs to establish himself as the quarterback of this pitching staff. He needs to learn that role comfortably without it impacting his hitting. It’s insane. And if we aren’t going to play any small ball at all and work on manufacturing runs rendering us incapable of bunting in October, then why do we need guys for their gloves and sacrifice the bats if we are strictly playing for big innings. If you’re not playing for one run games you don’t need defensive installments. Get Norby and Mayo up here, send Mateo and Urias down. Mountcastle needs to sit for a while. He’s become a wasted at bat. Something is wrong. He’s uncomfortable. And Mullins doesn’t have it right now. And if we are playing for big innings everyday we can’t carry their bats for their gloves. He needs to make a lineup card and leave it alone for a week. Stop F***ING WITH THESE KIDS YOURE THE BEST PLAYER ON THE OTHER TEAM EVERYDAY HYDE. I’m sorry he’s just not cut out for this and Elias blew it with him big time. He’s gotta go. He will not be able to manage against playoff teams, bochy has made a complete fool of him multiple times. These guys need to play everyday, in the same position, at the same spot in the lineup, everyday. They need to get comfortable, settle in, build momentum and consistency.
1. Gunnar SS
2. Rutsch C(EVERYDAY he’s not fragile!)
3. O’Hearn 1B
4. Santander RF
5. Kjerstad LF
6. Westburg 3B
7. Cowser CF
8. Mayo DH
9. Norby 2B
Let them play everyday like they have already been doing together throughout the minors. Let them hit their stride. I’d rather suffer through their growing pains with the benefit of them finding themselves and reaching their potential versus hoping Mullins stops slumping, or Mounty gets his head straight or taking Urias and Mateo for their gloves. This is our future team. They’re ready, the people in front of them aren’t getting it done, the baseball Gods are screaming at us and we aren’t listening. This is ridiculous. This is why we aren’t hitting, this is why we are never sharp after an off day. This guy is a problem for real and he’s gotta go. Managers don’t slump, this is who he is, he does nothing for the team other than hurt their game play. Seriously this is really bad the way he’s been doing this. Go through the lineups for a couple weeks of games. He moves people around like they’re playing backyard wiffle ball. He’s out of his depth. He’s a bench coach, assistant, he’s not a manager in any way, shape or form. This team needs consistency. The raw talent of this team is overshadowing his ineptitude and it’s dangerous. I almost wish we were having consecutive losing seasons so Elias would be forced to fire him. He’s gotta go immediately. I’m dead serious. This guy is gonna cost us championships. We have a first time manager undertaking the most difficult thing for a manager and that’s setting up young talent to blossom and bloom to their full potential and he’s hampering them significantly. You have to do something Ryan this is serious. He is out of his depth. Cal has to step in. Just look at the facts, go through the games look at the lineup, the changes, the pitch selection on defense, it’s all managerial. And no one is noticing because of how well we are doing in spite of this, but it’s not going to work in October, no way we should have one 101 games, and get swept for the first time in over a year. It’s Hyde. I’m telling you we will have the 1-2 seed this year and get swept again if he’s still running unchecked. Cal needs to tell him how important it is to let rookies and young players in general settle in, get comfortable, find a routine that works for them everyday so they can repeat what they do everyday to achieve the same results everyday which will be a lot of winning for us. Santander and Ohearn stay, but everyone else has to get out of the way to give the rookies in AAA a chance to find that same comfort, routine and success. I know not the only one who sees this because it’s blaring. To a point where I have to assume he sees it and it’s leading to more bad decisions and forced issues on his behalf. We have been going back and forth with 24 games over since the Yankee series. No one has noticed that we have played .500 baseball since that series overall and we are only back up to 24 games over now because we scraped out two series wins despite playing poorly compared to our capability. That’s not going to keep
Happening and if it does we will absolutely get swept in October. Again, brings in the wrong reliever, these guys would succeed if they were managed properly. No one notices that one day Akin is unhittable and the next he can’t get an out, Webb is lights out and then every other pitch finds the seats. Cano had one of the best stretches of pitching by a reliever in baseball history and has been a liability ever since. Another guy scraping out a win every time he comes out. This is managerial stuff not player related. They have great stuff, but they’re not getting what they need from the coaching staff because they’re being put in positions where they can’t succeed. Look man, the bottom line is, we have a potential dynasty on our hands with all this young talent at this caliber, but a rookie manager cannot be at the helm of that and it’s going to cost us dearly. This team is better than this, they’re underperforming as a whole, and I’m sure Cal will know that’s based on the manager not the player. It’s one thing to give players time to develop and mature into solid big leaguers, but it’s another thing to entertain that same process with a manager. PLEASE GET HIM OUT OF THERE!!! Why doesn’t Billy manage? Billy was no player, by any means, but Billy not only has the make up to manage he has the DNA of arguably the best manager to ever live in him. Look how deflated this team is. We were down 5. You’re telling me they don’t know they could score 5 in the blink of an eye? Because every time we fall behind by 4 or more, we literally stop hitting as an entire team. How did we go from the comeback team of the year last year to having the best offense in baseball and being done for if we are down 4-0 in the 3rd. PLEASE FIX IT RYAN YOU HAVE THE POWER!!! Go to pops, he will fix it. Look at Gunnar. All of sudden he chases pitches in the dirt. It’s crazy. It’s like they decided to play tomorrow in the 4th inning. We can’t sit by and do nothing. Do something because I won’t sit by idly.
Crochet should not be a consideration for the O's unless he's going to be a bp piece. Why do that when they could trade Basallo straight up for Miller?
That would be an awful trade
Can’t believe this is real… can’t believe this is happening… my faith tells me we will overcome this because we have endured so much penance to get us to the precipice of redemption it must be real. So this must be within our power to overcome without jumping to drastic solutions, but there can be no limitation in the commitment to overcome this, none whatsoever.
Are you giving your best Braveheart speech?
We need Coby to replace Mountcastle at 1b. Love Mounty but his health has been a factor the past 2 years. So we need a power right handed bat to replace him and Coby would be great there!
The way Rip smiled with instinctual pride when Steve called our defense air tight around the diamond. That’s Cal Sr’s blood in your veins my man, calling from the great beyond. It’s weird how much I value defense, and no other fans of other teams seem to care. I cringe when I think about sacrificing defense. That’s why I’d trade Hays before Urias. Hays is a dope outfielder, but that hot corner defense is so incredibly sexy. Air tight, loveeeeee it. Gimme a 1-0 win with 8 web gems and I’ll watch that game 100 times. I rewatch homers sometimes for sure, but not like the defensive artwork, especially infield gems with the hot corner being the holy grail.
Get rid of Urias, and stop burying Mayo
Why does everybody seemingly overlook Kreamer as a 3rd. starter? I think he's proven himself when he's on. Sometimes people can be short sighted.
You just answered you're own question. When he's on he's good when he's not he sucks which lands him at 4 or 5 in a rotation which isn't a bad thing but that's just who he is
Kremer sucks he got killed tonight, send him to the pen. Irvin sucks too
@Dan-md3hr I wouldn't go as far as to say he sucks but he's jot what we thought he was gonna be and that sucks because we really needed someone to step up right now and doesn't look lile were going to get that
@@michaelmullin6702 he needs to go to the pen
You CANNOT trade Mayo. I'd trade Holiday before Mayo or Connor Norby before Mayo. You cannot find a guy with that size, power and athleticism easily. Trading Mayo would be like trading a young Arron Judge or Manny Ramirez. The Orioles have other talent that they can trade without trading Mayo, Holiday, Basallo or McDermott. Trade Beavers, Norby along with a Stowers who is wasting away in AAA or we also have some rule 5 eligible guys that we could trade as depth with one of the guys mentioned like Hudson Haskin or Anthony Servideo. We have some talent. Even Blake Hunt is still a solid prospect just not in our system eventhough he landed in our lap. Just don't trade Mayo. The kid is not even 23 yet and is a beast. We need him late this year and next year once Urias and Mateo are gone. Trade Cal Ripken if you have to just not Mayo 😂.
We should not be not traded. He is a corner infielder/ dh and with Ryan Montcastle health issues and plate struggles we need to keep Mayo! Also I would prefer not to trade Conner Mayo as he is a better hitting second basemen than Jorge Mateo!
Would you empty out most of the top prospects for De la Cruz and Paul Skenes? Hypothetical question, because I doubt either team would be willing to move on from their stars
The most important text I’ve ever typed, Part 1
I should have known better. I let the Os do it to me again. Sucked me in, got me all excited and geared up, just in time to start to really notice how bad our manager is and the last thing the Angelos did apparently was the one thing they never do, spend money and give the manager a contract extension. Making sure we had the worst possible guy, the one guy that apparently is capable of tearing down a phenomenal team. We will wind up sticking with him, the prospects will wind up with other clubs and I’ll spend another decade watching our players win championships with other teams while we return to our “circle win” status on everyone else’s schedule across the league. “Oh we have Baltimore that week? That’s a win. *circles game on schedule* When do we get to see them again?” Angelos strikes again. I wish I had the gall or capability to do something about it myself. The Detroit tigers were losing 6-0 to the Guardians and came back and tied the game up. We fell behind the cubs by 5 in the 4th and turned into single A Delmarva against a big league ball club and here I am watching another team play instead of being able to enjoy my Orioles. Damn you Hyde. Damn you Angelos. Damnit. I can’t believe this. Look at Vogt with Cleveland. We couldn’t have gotten him for our rookie manager? We had to land the bench coach of a team that won a decade ago and then returned to their losing ways. If you think he learned anything being under Joe Maddon you’re insane. Spent years up against him, Brandon Hyde couldn’t shine his shoes. He’s so bad. It’s unreal. We are seriously going to go from potential dynasty to doormat just as quickly as we went from 100 losses to 100 wins. Nobody realized how bad he was when we lost 120 games? You thought that was because of the team. No big league team is that bad. It’s impossible. No matter what they’re part of the best 780 players in the world. I can’t believe Elias inherited him and hasn’t gotten rid of him by now. People we have to get through to Mike. We have to do something. We can’t just sit by and let this happen. We can’t let this slip away. Please. I need a World Series win. I can’t live my whole life and never see an Orioles World Series. Oh my god this can’t be for real. I’m having a panic attack. The baseball Gods finally blessed us with draft talent after all those years of 1st overall picks being complete and utter busts. We paid our dues. WHY ARE YOU DOING THIS TO US?!?!!!!!?!!! W H Y ? ! PLEASE DONT DO THIS TO US I WILL DO ANYTHING!!!
Hsbsksjsnzbjsnznzksjsbsmzjzbsjzjsbzhsbsbzhzbzbzjsnsnsnaja anskjsjdndjsjzhajsjsjsjaj AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH HOW IS THIS POSSIBLE?!!?! BEST DRAFT PICKS OVER THREE DRAFTS IN HISTORY AND WE GET BACKDOORED BY A DISMAL MANAGER CRUSHING OUR HOPES AND DREAMS?!?!?! THERES TOO MUCH AT STAKE THIS CANT BE REAL!
Cal please. This has to be why the baseball Gods created a situation that led to you being an owner. Only you can save us Cal. I’m so serious. I know this probably comes off crazy and like some kind of rant tantrum but I know you see it too because I know the one thing I know is baseball. I bleed baseball. It is my sustenance, my life support, my saving grace, my EVERYTHING!! Life did not bless me, and countless mistakes on my behalf have not improved that situation, but I’ve always had the game. I dealt with the losing. I hung in there every year as little glimmers of hope and silver linings would give me enough to grind out the season with the guys. This was our redemption, our pot of gold at the end of the rainbow, the end of the tunnel after we followed the light and here we are, controlling the drivers seat, controlling our destiny the rest of the way, but there’s a massive road block in our path as we sit on a decrepit bridge, the road behind us swallowed by the sea, the path ahead blocked, the bridge beneath our feet deteriorating. Cal, please, as you have done so many times for us, for baseball as a whole, for the entire country, you saved baseball in America and you know it, but we need saving now. We are about to have the bottom fall out and suffer greatly via slowly drowning. We are about to become the Red Sox fans of yesteryear. Our faces are about to become the new everyday dejected faces, we are about to be the new memes throughout the internet. Please Cal, we need you man. When I saw the announcement that you were an owner, that was the moment I relaxed my shoulders, exhaled and told myself, we are going to be okay, we are going to do this, Cal always delivers, he doesn’t do losing. The ship is about to be pulled out from under the sea, back on track and restored to former glory. Then Gunnar showed up for his sophomore season and everything just kept clicking. There were just some unusual anomalies along the way that I couldn’t explain. So I ignored it and just made comments here and there when Hyde’s presence couldn’t go unnoticed along with his mistakes. Things kept getting better with the team week after week, series after series, but the looming cloud just kept resurfacing. Then the cloud started to grow and darken after that first game against Houston on the heels of a historical blowout in the Bronx and there was something just not right about how we responded to the runs scored against us and how we handled it. Then we go up 1-0 early in game 2 courtesy of Westy and then they scored in the next half inning and it felt like they scored 100 runs. We gradually, pitch by pitch, became a different team and it didn’t stop until Grayson came out and battled his butt off, almost as a separate limb of the team unaffected by whatever was happening to the position players, and gave us 7 with 2 solo shots accounting for all their runs against him and willed us out of that losing streak. If he didn’t pitch the 7th I think Mullins strikes out instead of hitting the go head homer. You could feel the emotion. The dedication and utter defiance of another loss and Grayson’s performance juiced Ced’s bat and we ran off the next 4, but nothing felt right the whole time and hasn’t felt right since. Then today I was responding to Ryan’s question to his audience about how we would do against the Cubs essentially and I wound up rambling in one direction after another and I truly couldn’t figure out what was going to happen at all, let alone winning or losing. That never happens. You always have a feel for your team to an extent. You know when the bats are right there and about to break out or if they’re just in a funk and can’t put it together at all. So you can make more than educated guess and I have been able to at least make certain determinations that I know are safe bets and majority of the time I’m right as I know many of the other more hardcore fans have the same experiences everyday, but I’ve completely lost my connection to the team. It’s unreal, inexplicable. All my life with the game in front of me, and I feel like I was on a hot streak with baseballs the size of watermelons jumping off the barrel of my bat, to suddenly feeling blind and deaf, the balls went from watermelons to peas. And after hitting that wall while attempting to provide a quality prediction, the game started, the lineup all wonky again, Kremer obviously dealing with some kind of finger issue and nobody went out to see, nobody seemed to notice, even the broadcasters. And it was just one small thing after another, pitch calling, Kremer getting swing and misses with his fastball and he refused to keep throwing it for some reason. Then Adley with another day at the plate where he shows all the signs he used to show when he was about to turn a mini-slump into a series dump(hit out of his shoes for a day)and he just stayed right in it. Didn’t seem to barrel up anything even with a couple knocks. Then we decided to pitch to the only good hitter on their team, the only guy I ever seem to see on highlight reels for the cubs on quick pitch, MLB tonight, sports center, any of them, despite having two outs, with two on and first base literally open, meaning no force outs available at any base on a ground ball, in a 2 run game in the 4th and managed to get him 0-2 then 1-2 and somehow gave him a pitch that he was able to hit a mile despite clearly swinging with a two strike approach so he actually hit it out unintentionally to a degree.
No way I'm trading Mayo.. I would trade Kjerstad, Cowser or Basallo over him..
Not Basillo...
No to Cowser - he has good power...
Kerjested has more power then cowser tho@@rokher08
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Definitely wasn’t thinking 3 run bomb by the way we swung and finished, but that’s all he was thinking as soon as it left the bat, no doubter. And then it all clicked when I saw the best offense in baseball, last years comeback club, which we were that earlier this year too, but that seems to have died. Anyway, I saw the best offense in baseball, down by 5 in the 4th against a pitcher we already took deep and nearly took deep two other times already to that point in the game and he had already been saved by some uncharacteristically strong defensive plays, so we were definitely knocking at the door of a big inning, but it was like everyone died. Suddenly I realized that they had been given an excuse to stop playing between the lead size and there being 2 games left in the series, and so we were suddenly stiff as a board, lifeless, completely flat at the plate. It was staring me in the face the whole time. All the anomalies. Top staff in the AL, but is constantly susceptible to double digit runs. Best offense in baseball but can’t seem to overcome a deficit beyond 4 runs. Top tier defense that is capable of making really bad errors, run scoring errors, mental fumbles and inexcusable blunders. One day a reliever is lights out, the next he’s doing the same thing, but can’t record an out. You have no idea how long this list really is and how specific I can get, and you’ll see too once you’re looking for it. This team is being completely mismanaged. I’m telling you it’s so significant I genuinely wonder if it’s being done purposely instead of nervously. Our players are being challenged in ways that will never benefit them, overwhelmed in ways that guarantee instability and that they will be completely off balance. They are being put in positions that they couldn’t possibly succeed in and it’s much more extensive than you realize. Remember, Tony hit .202 and .206 respectively in April and May. Mullins is having the worst offensive year of his career. Mountcastle has struggled all year but it’s been overshadowed by his supporting cast and by timely home runs in places where he usually hits out of his shoes instead of the .315BA with 1 or 2 homers in a four game series he has posted this year, it’s usually 3-4 homers with at least one multi HR game, which is another thing Mounty always used to do, but now he seems to hit one and then maybe another to the warning track from a guy that has always had the power to muscle warning track shots over the wall instead and he certainly never thinks he got all of it and turns out to be wrong. And where did the patented Mounty line drive hooking into the corner into left or a low line drive on a rope down the first base line. Instead we are seeing him roll over fastballs but get lucky that they stay fair and sneak through the infield like the bases loaded double against Gil. That’s another thing, when did Mounty become an automatic 3rd out every time he’s up with 2 outs. I’d love to see a stat breakdown of his ABs whenever there are two outs versus no outs. I mean he looks like a different ball player. Mullins went from squaring everything but right at guys and still fought everyday showing visible emotion to battle back to what he’s used to and lately it feels like he’s indifferent about it. There’s a plague in the dugout, and it’s spreading. No one has realized that since the 17 run win against the Yankees we have played sub .500 baseball. We were 24 games over 500 following that win, today we fell to 23 again. We haven’t been able to pass 24 over in just under 3 weeks of baseball. 6-7 over 13 games and that includes a few wins on this last roadtrip that EASILY could have gone the other way with how we played. The offensive success of April and May have overshadowed the fact that we have gone from just under 6 runs:game to under 5 which takes a good bit of low scoring games after 90 games played and with the 8-11 run games we will have during a losing effort. Our run differential has gone from over 130 to 106 in less than 3 weeks. I’m telling you, we aren’t seeing what’s happening because of shadows cast over it in every direction, but if we want to avoid another demoralizing postseason, we have to plug the artery immediately or we are going to be bled out when we scuffle into October. Where we will justify it with the classic playoff quote, “anything can happen, ya just gotta get in”. That’s simply not entirely true because anything can only happen if you’re playing and you believe in everyone around you including your official leader, commander and chief of the dugout, your manager. The 2012 Orioles had no business having a winning season, but they won 93? Games that year and came up a couple games short of winning the division if memory serves. We won the 1 game wild card playoff against Texas in Arlington and had a great 5 game series with NY where they took game 5 and only won the series because Raul Ibanez in his age 93 season hit a game tying homer in the 8th? And a game winner in the 10th earlier and they stole what would have been an elimination game. We had a bullpen of misfits that turned into the best bullpen in baseball, a rotation filled with first round BUSTS and #5 starters, but they pitched well above their ability and the lineup went from the team that played their best game of the year in 2011 by playing spoiler for the Red Sox in what’s referred to as “day 162”, and turned into a powerhouse home run smashing unit.
Better NOT TRADE MAYO
Trade Cowser, Norby, Beavers, and McDermott for a top pitcher.
Mayo's future is likely at first, not third. Holliday will lock down second, and Westburg will lock down third long-term. If Mayo is truly going to hit 40 HRs, there is NO ONE worth trading him for. There isn't any top-notch ace who is on the market right now and will be more valuable than that. And it is definitely not Crochet. You want to open up space for him, trade Mountcastle. Mounty is a good first baseman, but his power numbers are dropping. Still, he would be an upgrade for many teams, like Seattle for instance. Next season, you could have Henderson, Mayo, and Kjerstad in the lineup, all with 40+ HR potential. Throw in Adley and Westburg with 20+ power and that is a formidable lineup.
Is Melewski Crochet's agent? He is a vastly overrated pitcher who has already pitched more innings this season than he had in his entire career entering this season, AND he is coming off a major arm injury in 2022. No thanks. I'd rather see them chase somebody like Bryce Miller on Seattle, a team with excess pitching and absolutely no hitting. Mounty, Norby, and Stowers...? That would give them three starters better than anyone they have already.
Not watching this. Shut up Steve. Sorry I love you dude but Coby Mayo? No way dude, you crazy? Same for Holliday, Kjerstad, Basallo, Bradfield, all pitching prospects experiencing moderate success and all the big league guys except the bench guys like Hays, Mateo, Urias, maybe, but no one else. DYNASTY STEVE. NOT 2024 AL EAST CHAMPS. DYNASTY!!!!
Maybe Bradfield because we have nowhere to put him, but right now he’s valuable depth that we don’t need to part with at all.
If they do trade for a pitcher or bullpen arm , the Orioles need to trade for a pitcher that is worth it and stay to play here next year. I wouldn’t want to trade the prospects for a rental that you trade your guys and then end up losing the guy you traded for in the offseason.