MAJOR Trade UPDATE... Tarik Skubal LINKED to the ORIOLES!

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  • Опубліковано 16 жов 2024
  • Peter Vryonis discusses the latest trade update linking Detroit Tigers superstar Tarik Skubal to the Baltimore Orioles. With his performance and his controllable contract, SKubal will command a hefty trade return which would surely be headlined by the top prospect in Major League Baseball, Jackson Holliday.
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  • @3UP.3DOWN
    @3UP.3DOWN  2 місяці тому +1

    Skubal has another two years of control after this one. My mistake! Hope you all enjoyed the video!

  • @esasoftware1900
    @esasoftware1900 2 місяці тому +7

    This is a Tigers dream, not reality.

  • @ShaneGrandle
    @ShaneGrandle 2 місяці тому +6

    Huge Os fan, I don’t see them moving off Holliday. Holliday and Mayo is not going to happen.

  • @steveg.7490
    @steveg.7490 2 місяці тому +2

    Holliday would never be traded - zero chance. The kid is going to be a generational talent for 15 years. Holliday and Mayo are untouchable for an often injured young pitcher on his way to Tommy John - not if but when like every young pitcher that throws hard. Orioles are the best team in the American League. If you propose this trade you don’t know these players. Orioles are not just built to win this year, they are built to win the next several years. Elias will not touch their top 3 prospects. We only need a #3 pitcher and another bull pen arm.

    • @pnantais1111
      @pnantais1111 2 місяці тому +1

      I agree 100% and the same should be the other way around. I would not trade Skubal even for Holliday if I were the Tigers. Nobody would win that trade.

    • @steveg.7490
      @steveg.7490 2 місяці тому

      @@pnantais1111 I totally agree

    • @wolves1901
      @wolves1901 2 місяці тому

      If Skubal starts for Baltimore. They win the World Series. . It’s been since 1983. Trade whoever to win that.

    • @wolves1901
      @wolves1901 2 місяці тому

      Both teams are postering. But the Tigers hold the cards. Send the lottery picks to Detroit for a pitcher that puts you over the top.

  • @esasoftware1900
    @esasoftware1900 2 місяці тому +3

    Never.

  • @thedudeWG
    @thedudeWG 14 днів тому

    Tiger fans were dead set against any trade that didn’t start with Holliday and include Mayo or Povich. I’m sure everyone in Motown is glad now that this never happened!

  • @kensalamander9060
    @kensalamander9060 2 місяці тому +4

    It’s 2 1/2 yrs you’d have Skubal
    Damn dude
    Secondly there is no chance The Os are trading away the #1 overall prospect and the #15 overall in Holliday and Mayo. There is no precedent for that kind of compensation
    The Most Tigers could hope get and they’d probably take this deal if Baltimore offers Jackson Holliday, Kyle Stowers and Steve Johnson for Skubal
    I need to start my own channel.

    • @3UP.3DOWN
      @3UP.3DOWN  2 місяці тому

      Made a mistake on that. Sorry. And even more reason for them to get Holliday and Mayo for 2.5 years of Skubal. He’s the most electric arm in baseball. I think it’ll be a similar return to what the White Sox got from Boston in the Chris Sale trade. Thanks for the comment.

  • @williamsmith9055
    @williamsmith9055 2 місяці тому +2

    HAHA. These trade proposals are crazy. Very unlikely are you getting one of Holiday or Mayo for him, much less BOTH of them.

    • @3UP.3DOWN
      @3UP.3DOWN  2 місяці тому +1

      It is a steep price, but how much do the O’s value becoming THE contender among contenders?

    • @thomasdowney54
      @thomasdowney54 2 місяці тому +2

      Sustained success is also the goal. The orioles fans have endured many years of bad teams. They must be responsible when approaching trades even if they believe it will put them over the top. Pitchers are very risky.

    • @steveg.7490
      @steveg.7490 2 місяці тому

      @@thomasdowney54 exactly

    • @getitnow005
      @getitnow005 2 місяці тому

      There will be a world series next year too. Sustained success is there goal​ theyre not going to panic and trade future superstars for a guy that hasnt been able to stay healthy his whole career@3UP.3DOWN

  • @kenyabutler5862
    @kenyabutler5862 2 місяці тому

    Thats the curse of having so many prospects, teams are gonna ask more from you than any other team simply because you have it.

  • @CTESPNNetwork
    @CTESPNNetwork 2 місяці тому +2

    Offer declined… I speak on behalf of the City of Baltimore and I ☝️ DECLINE this offer and I will counter your offer with 👎👎(that’s 2 thumbs down) aaaaand what the heck I’m feeling nice I’ll give Detroit Basallo

    • @thedudeWG
      @thedudeWG 14 днів тому

      … and we will counter with , enjoy ur offseason! 😂

  • @garyvandecar2580
    @garyvandecar2580 2 місяці тому +2

    Skubal has 2 1/2 years of control not 1 1/2 years.

    • @3UP.3DOWN
      @3UP.3DOWN  2 місяці тому +1

      Yes my mistake. I pinned a comment acknowledging that. Thanks, Gary!

    • @garyvandecar2580
      @garyvandecar2580 2 місяці тому

      @@3UP.3DOWN You're totally welcome, I really hope we keep Skubal though.

    • @3UP.3DOWN
      @3UP.3DOWN  2 місяці тому +1

      @@garyvandecar2580 I think they absolutely should. Arms like that are hard to find, and the Tigers are headed in the right direction. He can be a big part of the solution’

  • @heyhuey4429
    @heyhuey4429 2 місяці тому +2

    He's 33 - 30. Don't sell Tara.

    • @jerryalexander8803
      @jerryalexander8803 2 місяці тому

      A pitchers win/loss record is one of the most insignificant stats in baseball.. Had he been on better teams his win/loss record would be better, see how that works? You better look at things like WHIP, ERA, opp avg, WAR.. It’s 2024 and you still stuck in 1992 😂

    • @heyhuey4429
      @heyhuey4429 2 місяці тому

      @@jerryalexander8803 At least I can write.

  • @EarlBlake
    @EarlBlake 2 місяці тому

    No way would the Orioles trade that many top prospects for a pitcher.

  • @pnantais1111
    @pnantais1111 2 місяці тому +1

    If I am the Tigers and I am told no Jackson Holliday, I hang up the phone, turn around and reach out to Skubal's agent to begin extension talks. This is not a charity business, you don't gift wrap the Orioles the best pitcher in baseball. I don't care how high the Orioles value their other prospects, they just don't cut it for Skubal. I for one, am happy that the Orioles won't include Holliday because even if they did, I don't want to trade a left-handed ace which is so hard to come by.

  • @blackonyx3007
    @blackonyx3007 2 місяці тому +3

    Big pass as an O’s fan. He past shoulder issues. Good luck Tigers. We will find another way.

    • @cowboysnation3472
      @cowboysnation3472 2 місяці тому

      He’s had no major issues with his shoulder. He’s had one tj surgery and a surgery on his right hand

    • @steveg.7490
      @steveg.7490 2 місяці тому

      @@cowboysnation3472 and how old is he? One point I think Tigers fans are missing - and I wouldn't know if it was the other way around, is that the Orioles are going to be better the next several years than they are this year. So they will not part with Holliday or Mayo and doubt Basallo is traded also. Their other parts are better than what most other teams can offer - Norby, Stowers, Povich.

  • @Methoes123
    @Methoes123 2 місяці тому +1

    O's should trade with Seattle for Gilbert, than trade with Miami for Weathers and Scott, than trade for Finnegan. and keep all top prospects! Skubal not worth asking price!

    • @3UP.3DOWN
      @3UP.3DOWN  2 місяці тому

      That’s a good plan! Gilbert and Scott would really help them! Thanks for your comment.

  • @johnmilander3162
    @johnmilander3162 2 місяці тому

    Lol no way Elias gets rid of all those prospects…….

  • @EarlBlake
    @EarlBlake 2 місяці тому

    The Orioles are not built to be a one year wonder. Holiday is a key piece to the future of the club and a one year wonder of a pitcher is not.

  • @willowfalls7528
    @willowfalls7528 2 місяці тому +2

    I'd want to swap out Coby Mayo for Heston Kjerstad myself in that big trade. Send Jackson, Kjerstad, Povich, and Stowers to Detroit for Skubal. That way, the Orioles could get that pitcher they think they need, maybe win that World Series they want so very, very much, the Tigers could get some fantastic building blocks for the future, and, with my favorite Orioles now Tigers, I could just make the Tigers my American League favorite and never think about the O's again! Everyone wins!

    • @3UP.3DOWN
      @3UP.3DOWN  2 місяці тому

      Kjerstad is an other interesting name. My whole point is that it doesn’t matter who they ship out, they are set for the future. Why not go all in this year?

    • @mrcstravels
      @mrcstravels 2 місяці тому

      That wouldnt be enough you would need Mayo as part of the package. Detroit is not looking to sell Skubal if they do they would need Holiday, Mayo at the core plus one or 2 others depending but these are the 2 core that would have to be included

    • @steveg.7490
      @steveg.7490 2 місяці тому +2

      You guys are absolutely nuts. You would be lucky to get Mayo or Basallo with Stowers or Norby. Holliday can be an iconic player - best player in minors and #1 overall. His career will be way better than Skubal over the long haul. It’s fun to think of that but the Orioles don’t need Skubal. They need a #3 starter. Other teams best offer is like the #73 prospect, and you think you’re going to get the #1 overall and more? Orioles have 3 prospects in the top 15. Holliday and Mayo will be on the Orioles next month.

    • @cowboysnation3472
      @cowboysnation3472 2 місяці тому +1

      We aren’t trading Mayo or Heston these guys are crazy

    • @kenyabutler5862
      @kenyabutler5862 2 місяці тому

      Out of your damn mind to think you would get 4 or 5 top prospects in the sport just for 1 player. I don't care how well he's pitched that's an insane thought

  • @davidbliss9277
    @davidbliss9277 2 місяці тому +2

    The trade proposed is the very least the Tigers would accept

    • @esasoftware1900
      @esasoftware1900 2 місяці тому +3

      Jackson Holiday 20 years career for pitcher that lasts 2-4 years? No

  • @CaperLee
    @CaperLee 2 місяці тому +1

    I think they would trade Holiday for Skubal. Number 1 prospect for number 1 pitcher

    • @3UP.3DOWN
      @3UP.3DOWN  2 місяці тому

      I feel like another prospect would need to be thrown in. But hard to say no to Holliday!

    • @davidmitchell3020
      @davidmitchell3020 2 місяці тому +1

      It’s going to take Holiday and at least two other top 10 prospects.

    • @steveg.7490
      @steveg.7490 2 місяці тому

      @@davidmitchell3020 No way Holliday is included - Holliday will be an iconic star player for 15 years. Skubal could be headed for TJ #2 and not last 5 years in the majors. Orioles don't need Skubal - they are in first place and top seed in AL. They just need a #3 and will keep their top 3 prospects. And no, you don't give away 3 top prospects, which are top 15 in all of baseball for a #2 pitcher. We already have a #1. Our 4, 5 and 6 prospects will beat most of the teams in baseball, value wise. Elias knows that.

    • @davidmitchell3020
      @davidmitchell3020 2 місяці тому

      @@steveg.7490 Then no deal and talk to the Yankees.

  • @stevenbillings7990
    @stevenbillings7990 2 місяці тому

    I’m a Os fan! I don’t think it’s out of the question that Jackson could be traded for Skubial. But it’s adding Coby Mayo to this package that makes this a no deal for me. Switch Mayo out for Norby and you have a deal.

    • @3UP.3DOWN
      @3UP.3DOWN  2 місяці тому

      Interesting! Skubal is an Ace and puts the O's over the top in my opinion. It would definitely have to start with Holliday!

    • @stevenbillings7990
      @stevenbillings7990 2 місяці тому +1

      @@3UP.3DOWN I agree Skubial makes us very formidable. And I know from the outside looking in Os look like a very complete team but I can tell you we have holes on offense too and people say “we have a surplus of great prospects you need to trade some.” And I agree we do. But they have to be the right trades. I’m excited to see how this unfolds

    • @davidbliss9277
      @davidbliss9277 2 місяці тому

      Those two players, Jackson and Mayo are the starting point. A dominant Lefty is a high price.

    • @derekrice5203
      @derekrice5203 2 місяці тому

      The O’s are contenders without Skubal, yes he puts them “over the top” but at what cost? The O’s could get Scherzer or Evoldi from Texas and I would feel good about it giving up way less. The funny thing to me is no other team mentioned on Skubal has the high prospects or depth of position players as the orioles. It’s in the tigers best interest, if they are moving him, that he goes to Baltimore.

  • @musicdunc
    @musicdunc 2 місяці тому +1

    The Tigers will not get *all of those prospects for Skubal. Maybe Holliday, Povich and perhaps someone on the MLB squad.

  • @BobE316
    @BobE316 2 місяці тому

    That trade is a joke, not happening

  • @Willhmartin
    @Willhmartin 2 місяці тому

    I would trade Holliday just so I wouldn't have to deal with his daddy anymore..

  • @Chris-s6y5e
    @Chris-s6y5e 2 місяці тому

    The cheap-a$$ed, trust fund owner will NEVER pay him the $50 million a season that Skubal will eventually earn. Plus, Scott Boras is his agent. Dombrowski could deal with him.