I heard a story in Ken Burns' Baseball about the 19th century player King Kelly. In those days, to enter a game off the bench, you would announce yourself. In one game, a popup came towards Kelly's dugout, and he stepped onto the field, said, "Kelly now catching for Boston," and caught the ball, and the batter was called out.
Regarding the Johnny Bench play, when Ty Cobb was player-manager of the Tigers, he ordered a similar play on Babe Ruth. Cobb was managing from centerfield and yelled to the pitcher to intentionally walk Ruth. The pitcher gave Cobb a slight look of disagreement. The catcher yelled to the pitcher to just follow orders and walk Ruth. The catcher stood for the intentional walk, but at the last second the pitcher threw a strike one fastball. Expecting a ball, the Babe didn’t swing. Cobb yelled again from the outfield, pretending to be angry, ordering an intentional walk. The catcher appeared irritated and berated the pitcher for trying to lose the game by letting Ruth hit. But the next pitch was another strike. Ruth expected a ball. Then Cobb ran to the mound and pretended to chew out the pitcher, threatening to not only take him out of the game, but bench him and fine him for disobeying. Some of the infielders came in to calm things down. The frustrated pitcher finally agreed to walk Ruth. Knowing Cobb’s style as a manager, Ruth and the Yankees bought it. The theatrics paid off and the next pitch was strike three.
stories like this are why ty cobb is my favorite non-reds player of all time. the dude was a THINKER. always scheming to get ahead. fighting and scraping and doing anything he possibly could.
this is why baseball has become unquestionably my favorite pro sport as i've got older. Half of the game is played in the clubhouse. There's so many games there's no downside to giving unconventional ideas a shot, cheating is just part of the game to where the game is less safe and enjoyable without it (foegin substances), fighting is expected and pitchers are *expected* to throw at batters at time which in literally any other context would be felonious assault. Also you can celebrate as much as you want and give balls to the crowd without a fine. baseball is awesome
@@phishphan49lol baseball doesn’t have fights. sure you have your odor and amir garrett etc moments but majority of “fights” are just a bunch of overweight men running at each other to do absolutely nothing but stand there and babble some bullshit while they wait for the bullpen to finish their pointless run in
Is his original pitch still legal? The video made it sound like only his double hop pitch is illegal. I wonder why more pitchers aren't doing the original one if so?
@@craigquesnell7292the strikezone is what the umpire says it is.. Not what you or the rule book says it is.. If an ump calls a strike it's a strike this is widely known and has been continuously argued for over 100 years and still the umpire rules the strike zone
@@Mr.Genesis Agreed...part of the reason its been continuously argued over though, is because to a man, every ump questioned about it claims to faithfully adhere to the rulebook definition of what the strike zone is. This isn't really about that argument, just more about how poor the judgment was on the pitch. 👌
That one’s been around a while though. We did it in High School over 20 years ago, and I’m sure it was around before that in some capacity. We had a set of 5 first and third plays and this was always the most fun one. Everyone just assumed the runner screwed up when he fell over. Easy run.
I'm pretty sure Sandoval made contact in the next clip. It was on the backswing when the catcher throws. It's hard to tell, but judging by the missed throw he might have nicked it.
Yeah, and the other thing is, he did the maths as "Since he's 8 feet in front, that's 54 feet while everyone else is throwing 62..." But everyone else pitches in front of the rubber as well, so it's really like a 2 feet gain... Basically the length of that little hop he does.
@@daysandwords you can actually measure this. Statcast has something called "Release Extension" which measured Carper's average extension to be 8.1 feet in 2015. League average is around 6.3 feet, so you are about right.
i don’t even watch baseball but i love this channel and the thing one thing i do find so interesting about baseball is that all the most interesting, important, or intriguing moments in the sport happen in between the actual moments of the sport being played. so many weird rules, caveats, and traditions that ultimately lead to such interesting stories
I still think Freddie Freeman's 4th out, Kyle Tucker's appeal breaker, and Jason Varitek running for the fielder instead of the base were all smarter MLB plays than the A's fake intentional-walk-to-set-up-the-double-play. Edit: Even the 1st-and-3rd with Kentucky's runner-falling-down distraction and the high school runner leading off in shallow right were better
4th out never made sense and it happened to the Mets a few years later too where the call on the field was out so the Mets runner stopped. If you call someone out on the field for the 3rd out, that should always be a dead ball. If you need to send Duda back to 2nd so be it but you can't mess up a call and not leave the ability to make it right.
@@Gravy_Jones22 My first thought. You would think the up wouldn't call him out at 3rd because the play was completed at 1st. It was smart but it shouldn't have worked.
Yep, that's what I was taught from the time I started pitching. @samueloverend3517 is also correct, you were taught to keep the bunt up and go for the ball even if it's coming at your head. Turn your head and put the bat towards the ball.
I would call it a heads up play, Baez removed the first baseman’s ability to think when he acted so fast. He acted like he knew something the first baseman didn’t know so he got tricked into ending his own career.
@@ThomasPoorman --- If Baez simply stopping on the 1st base path 'removes the 1st baseman's ability to think', that points to how DUMB the 1st baseman responds, not how smart Baez acts. 99,999 times out of 100,000 the first baseman steps on 1st and laughs at Baez. Funniest play in baseball history, though, for sure.
@@jjwats12 What bothers me about that play is...why weren't any of the Pirates yelling at Craig to get his head back in the game and step on first? They were going along with it just as much as he was.
Hold On.. On the Freeman 4th Out play.. After the Ump calls the guy at 1st out for the 3rd out, wouldn’t the play be dead? Even though he’s eventually safe, can’t the runner going to 3rd say he stopped cause the Ump called the 3rd out which should automatically kill the play.. I feel like after being called safe from the challenge, the runner should have to go back to 2nd or whatever base he’s on when the original call was made.. How can they allow the play to keep going??
Agreed. NOTHING can happen after the 3rd out call, even if it was due to a bad call and replay later overturns it. The 3rd out was called, the inning was over, the ball was dead, the tag on the runner (think it was Duda) meant nothing, and did not even exist as a baseball play, because the inning was over. If the Mets had challenged the out call at first, that call would have been overturned, and the batter becomes safe at first. That tag put on Duda meant nothing since it happened after a 3rd out was (incorrectly) called. Likewise, when that 3rd out was called, Duda didn't yet reach 3rd base, so he should have been sent back to second base. It *was* a really smart play by Freeman, but I don't think it would have been successful if the Mets challenged. And I wish they did.
Freeman threw the ball to third in case the batter-runner was called safe, or the out call was overturned. He wanted to make sure they got an out. There is a way to legally get a fourth out, but this isn't it.
@@judyjohnson630 If the call at first was overturned, the umpires would have to decide what happens if the correct call had been made. That means the out on the runner going to third would be out and the inning would be over.
@@alanhess9306 Yes, I understand that & it makes sense if he threw it just incase he was called safe. The problem is that the call being overturned is irrelevant at that point if the original call is Out. Once the ump makes the 3rd Out call, the play is dead. If they check the replay & realize he’s safe, they can’t go off of what happened after that. Freeman’s throw is irrelevant. Only makes sense just incase he’s originally called safe.
@@FrankThe77Tank No that is not true. 8.02(c) " If the umpires consult after a play and change a call that had been made, then they have the authority to take all steps that they may deem necessary, in their discretion, to eliminate the results and consequences of the earlier call that they are reversing, including placing runners where they think those runners would have been after the play, had the ultimate call been made as the initial call, disregarding interference or obstruction that may have occurred on the play;" If the correct call had been made at first base, the runner going to third would still be out. It was a smart move by Freeman.
For those wondering how to defend against the baserunner taking off during an appeal, you as the defending team have to focus on making the appeal as quickly and directly as possible and THEN make a play on the runner. If there were 2 outs and the appeal is successful, the inning is over but if it's not or there are less than 2 outs, you do still need to make a quick play so you can still try and get the runner.
Not really, just common sense. If you're not sure you got the 3rd out, try to get an out somewhere else. The runner on 2nd messed up; he should have not taken for granted that the 3rd out had happened and kept running and not slowed down. (This is why, if there's two outs, the runners will start running when the ball hits the bat.)
the mental reaction time to think of something like that in that amount of time is pure genius. when we have time to think about it is when it seems like common sense.
The baseball equivalent of quick-snapping the football before the opposing coach can throw a challenge flag. Except, in this case, it looks like the umps just flat-out blew the call. Watching the video a couple times, it looks like the third baseman caught the ball with his foot still on the bag _before_ tagging Tucker. So Gurriel should have been called out at that point and the inning would be over. Apparently, it was the umpires who got fooled, not the Diamondbacks. But like they say, "If it's stupid but it works, it isn't stupid."
If you're playing on a hard bag at first the 1B probably knows with ~75% accuracy if the runner is safe - just from the feeling on the bag. Super smart play by Freeman at 13:25
Former first basemen. Can confirm. And if it's close, pull your foot off, point at your infielder, look at the other runners, convince the ump you know you got the out.
@@sam.houseworth But it was close. And he didn't do that. Besides, the throw to third was not decided on the runner's contact with the plate. He knew to throw as soon as it was coming his way.
@@sam.houseworth lol sooooo true. Especially when you know they beat the throw. Even in the majors it's worth doing that. Used to do the trick to toss the ball to 2B and let them go over to first just in case the runner was safe and stepped off the bag
I had been almost exclusively a Basketball fan for the last 5 years. This channel has single-handedly made me a Baseball fan. MLB cut this man a check.
Skunk in the outfield is my favorite play ever. The kid in that video should be out though. The basepath, once established, goes directly from the runner to either base. He ran back towards the Right Fielder when “retreating”, which would put him out of the baseline. It can be maneuvered correctly, but I don’t think he did it right.
No, he wouldn't be out of the path because he was running straight back to where he started. Because the base path only became established once the other team started to try and tag him, the base path became a giant V due to his starting point.
14:00 Freddy probably knew that the runner was safe, no matter how people were acting. He probably felt the bag shift before the ball hit. So he KNEW there were only 2 outs, and went for the 3rd. Even though people were reacting to the catch like the runner was already out.
15:55 earlier in the video you knew that the basepath was only during a tag attempt but now apparently you've forgotten it. During a throw the runner can be anywhere they want (except to intentionally interfere with the throw). There is no base path because there is no tag attempt.
@@nileprimewastaken There is. Then as soon as he throws the ball there is no longer a tag attempt. A tag attempt is when a fielder has the ball and is attempting to tag. Throwing is not "attempting to tag" therefor the tag attempt was stopped.
David Wright had the most perfect stance in that he had very little movement with his eye level with the turn your front foot, rather than lift it off the ground, and it changed baseball forever. Also, Eric Davis, Mo Vaughn, Ryan Klesko, Cecil Fielder, Ruben Sierra, Mickey Tettleton, Frank Thomas, Will Clark, Rafael Palmerro, Moises Alou, Vlad Guerrero, Chipper Jones, Darryl Strawberry, and many more, are rightfully wondering how their stance was not shown in a 15+ min clip! Julio Franco was only shown 1X as well!
there is an even better way to execute a 4th out: Runner on second, 2 outs. batter hits a flyball into the outfield gap. Runners scores but does not touch third base. batter is thrown out, trying to slide into second base. the run counts, inning is over. however the defense can then immediatly play the appeal on third. The appeal on third base leads to the 4th out, however this out has priority over the third out at 2nd base and effectively becomes the third out. run does not count, inning is over. I don't know if that ever happened in an MLB game, but this is the stuff you learn at umpiring school.
Actually, the catcher cannot step in front of the batter during an actual pitch... it's catcher interference (like if the bat hits their glove in a swing) and the batter goes to first
Rollie Fingers talked about this play on one of Bob Costas' show, I think in the mid to late 2000's. Costas had Fingers, Rich Gossage, Lee Smith, Dennis Eckersley, Bruce Sutter and I think Sparky Lyle. According to Fingers, Joe Morgan , who was on 3rd, saw it coming and started yelling to Johnny Bench , but apparently Bench never heard him. I've never been able to find the episode, but it was fantastic hearing about the history of the relief pitcher.
Solve the baserunning hack by ruling: once a tag is attempted, the runner must proceed straight to the next base or return straight to the previous base
@@alanhess9306 Crazy hypothesis: Runner attempts to reach home, catcher gets ball and begins attempt to tag the runner but then throws to 3rd, then runner changes course and goes towards 1st base and the 3rd baseman returns the ball to the pitcher as the runner reaches 1st :)
@@kbarrett63 The rule is that the runner has three feet to deviate from his base path, not the baseline. The baseline is a straight line between bases. The runner's base path is established when a tag is attempted and is a straight line from the runner to the base he is trying to achieve. No tag attempt means there is no base path and the runner can run wherever he wishes.
I saw one in an independent league game a few years ago which deserves to be on this list. A batter had a 1-2 count, with the bases empty. The pitcher, who had not been having control issues, threw a wild pitch. As the ball got past the catcher and was rolling to the backstop, the batter realized the situation-and swung at it, very late. Thus making the play a strikeout, with the catcher not catching the pitch-and he easily ran down to first base.
Also I question the inclusion as a smartest play in baseball. Swinging at the pitch does not make you clear. Batter cannot fall into the catcher's way. That was borderline interference. The runner could have (maybe should have) been called out.
The fact that after finding that most pitchers werent touching the rubber when they pitched, the MLB didnt start enforcing this rule but instead decided that the rule didn't have to be followed is nuts. Just enforce the rule you have in place already. No need to complicate or alter the rules further.
The way to avoid ever being thrown out in an MLB baseball game is this: On your way to tryout for a Major League team, turn around and go somewhere else instead. It worked for me.
The graphic at 6:54 is wrong. The runner cannot move away from the base further into the outfield. The basepath is a path *toward* the base, never away from.
@@babababad The fielder with the ball is at least 20 feet from the runner. That is not a tag attempt. The tag attempt occurs when the fielder is close enough to reach out and and try to tag him.
@@alanhess9306 I'm talking about the graphic at 6:54, not the video of the actual play. The second baseman has the ball in the proximity of the runner and is pursuing the runner, while the runner is moving in a straight line away from second base into the outfield. This is an oversimplification of the play that actually occurred, and as a result the graphic depicts a baserunning violation.
If you're playing on a hard bag at first, the 1B can probably tell if the runner is safe with around 75% accuracy merely by feeling the bag. Incredible move by Freeman at 13:25
Fun fact, if the runner gets hit with a pitch over the plate it is an automatic out. So you could get away with just waiting for the runner to get near to the plate and hit the runner
You are totally wrong. From JR; "If a runner is attempting to steal home and there is a pitch that touches him at the plate, the pitch is ruled either a ball or strike and it is dead. Every runner (including the struck runner) is awarded his advance base. However, if the pitch was a third strike the batter is out, and if such out is the third out, there is no run."
Was hoping to see the College Center Fielder fake a catch before catching the ball, and throwing the runner out, by making the runner leave the bag early.
Like I've always said.. if a pitcher hits a batter on purpose, the batter deserves to get a free swing on the pitcher. Bet we won't see pitchers throwing at batters anymore when they know it will result in some major facial reconstruction..
The 50-ft lead in the outfield was WILD. Somebody was thinking late into the night and cackling madly over that plan.
Yeah it looks like it could work again, wonder if anybody has tried it since.
That's something you dream about and wake up with the thought of, Wait would that actually work?
"Mwahahaha" - that coach
Someone else literally made the exact same comment
i can see most umpires just calling the runner on 1st out not knowing or caring about the rule phrased like that.
Plays like these make me wish that baseball existed
@majorandmagic5853it’s a joke buddy
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“If he tries to pick off the runner in right field” is such a wild statement had me laughing out loud
Just the old 1-9 pickoff play 😂
I heard a story in Ken Burns' Baseball about the 19th century player King Kelly. In those days, to enter a game off the bench, you would announce yourself. In one game, a popup came towards Kelly's dugout, and he stepped onto the field, said, "Kelly now catching for Boston," and caught the ball, and the batter was called out.
Oh shit I forgot about King Kelly
@@ThePdog3k He is going to be super pissed at you.
Yup! The substitution rule was amended afterwards to specify that, yes, substitutions cannot be made while the ball is in play!
@@lowandoutsidethat’s great. “Show me where it says I can’t do that. You can’t!”
This caused me to look up King Kelly and according to his wikipedia picture, he was not only smart, he was a total smokeshow, my goodness
Regarding the Johnny Bench play, when Ty Cobb was player-manager of the Tigers, he ordered a similar play on Babe Ruth.
Cobb was managing from centerfield and yelled to the pitcher to intentionally walk Ruth. The pitcher gave Cobb a slight look of disagreement. The catcher yelled to the pitcher to just follow orders and walk Ruth. The catcher stood for the intentional walk, but at the last second the pitcher threw a strike one fastball. Expecting a ball, the Babe didn’t swing.
Cobb yelled again from the outfield, pretending to be angry, ordering an intentional walk. The catcher appeared irritated and berated the pitcher for trying to lose the game by letting Ruth hit. But the next pitch was another strike. Ruth expected a ball.
Then Cobb ran to the mound and pretended to chew out the pitcher, threatening to not only take him out of the game, but bench him and fine him for disobeying. Some of the infielders came in to calm things down. The frustrated pitcher finally agreed to walk Ruth. Knowing Cobb’s style as a manager, Ruth and the Yankees bought it. The theatrics paid off and the next pitch was strike three.
stories like this are why ty cobb is my favorite non-reds player of all time. the dude was a THINKER. always scheming to get ahead. fighting and scraping and doing anything he possibly could.
this is why baseball has become unquestionably my favorite pro sport as i've got older. Half of the game is played in the clubhouse. There's so many games there's no downside to giving unconventional ideas a shot, cheating is just part of the game to where the game is less safe and enjoyable without it (foegin substances), fighting is expected and pitchers are *expected* to throw at batters at time which in literally any other context would be felonious assault. Also you can celebrate as much as you want and give balls to the crowd without a fine.
baseball is awesome
The Tigers need Ty Cobb more than ever rn
@@phishphan49lol baseball doesn’t have fights. sure you have your odor and amir garrett etc moments but majority of “fights” are just a bunch of overweight men running at each other to do absolutely nothing but stand there and babble some bullshit while they wait for the bullpen to finish their pointless run in
@@phishphan49baseball is still awesome tho
Capps jumping two feet off the rubber to pitch is still wild to me.
That double jump delivery was so cursed
The way he held it behind his back during his throwing motion would have made his delivery weird to me by itself, too.
Is his original pitch still legal? The video made it sound like only his double hop pitch is illegal. I wonder why more pitchers aren't doing the original one if so?
it definitely makes my knee hurt 😂
@@jclembo8461 No, it's called a crow-hop and it's definitely illegal. In softball as well.
That last pitch was a damn ball 😆 the ump didn’t want to ruin the “smartest” play of all time and just went with the catcher’s reaction
Plus - Tony Peña did it better
☝100%, wasn't even all that close a pitch, not deserving of 'best' for sure, kind of an anticlimactic finish to an otherwise very entertaining video👍
@@craigquesnell7292the strikezone is what the umpire says it is.. Not what you or the rule book says it is.. If an ump calls a strike it's a strike this is widely known and has been continuously argued for over 100 years and still the umpire rules the strike zone
@@Mr.Genesis Agreed...part of the reason its been continuously argued over though, is because to a man, every ump questioned about it claims to faithfully adhere to the rulebook definition of what the strike zone is.
This isn't really about that argument, just more about how poor the judgment was on the pitch. 👌
Anyone complaining about this pitch is a millennial or zoomer who has never watched a baseball game without K-zone. K-zone is brainrot.
the kentucky play was actually genius
They must have some badass coaches
The play is very old ran against us in 2010.. in Cali
@@22bk113 ok he was showing clips from the '70s- '80s in this video so...
That one’s been around a while though. We did it in High School over 20 years ago, and I’m sure it was around before that in some capacity. We had a set of 5 first and third plays and this was always the most fun one. Everyone just assumed the runner screwed up when he fell over. Easy run.
My coach taught us to yell the base, not runner.
nah somebody give the batter at 3:16 a medal. He made contact AND got it safely onto the ground
That play was insane in so many ways lmao. There's no way the catcher was getting to that tho he should've just taken the ball
I'm pretty sure Sandoval made contact in the next clip. It was on the backswing when the catcher throws. It's hard to tell, but judging by the missed throw he might have nicked it.
11:30 the rubber is 60’6” away from the rear point of home plate
Yeah, and the other thing is, he did the maths as "Since he's 8 feet in front, that's 54 feet while everyone else is throwing 62..." But everyone else pitches in front of the rubber as well, so it's really like a 2 feet gain... Basically the length of that little hop he does.
@@daysandwords you can actually measure this. Statcast has something called "Release Extension" which measured Carper's average extension to be 8.1 feet in 2015. League average is around 6.3 feet, so you are about right.
The rubber was supposed to be 60 feet even, but the guy who wrote that down had sloppy handwriting.
@@peterparker-zy9oe Yes, but he doesn't "gain" 8 ft by jumping. His natural motion already has lots of extension due to his height and stride length.
@@NeweyUC That's exactly what they said.
i don’t even watch baseball but i love this channel and the thing one thing i do find so interesting about baseball is that all the most interesting, important, or intriguing moments in the sport happen in between the actual moments of the sport being played. so many weird rules, caveats, and traditions that ultimately lead to such interesting stories
There's definitely more to the game than the game. Check out _Baseball Strategies: Your guide to the game within the game_
I still think Freddie Freeman's 4th out, Kyle Tucker's appeal breaker, and Jason Varitek running for the fielder instead of the base were all smarter MLB plays than the A's fake intentional-walk-to-set-up-the-double-play.
Edit: Even the 1st-and-3rd with Kentucky's runner-falling-down distraction and the high school runner leading off in shallow right were better
I think it happening in the World Series, where the stakes are the highest, put it over the top for Mr. BDE
The Kyle Tucker play is the smartest play imo
4th out never made sense and it happened to the Mets a few years later too where the call on the field was out so the Mets runner stopped. If you call someone out on the field for the 3rd out, that should always be a dead ball. If you need to send Duda back to 2nd so be it but you can't mess up a call and not leave the ability to make it right.
@@Gravy_Jones22 My first thought. You would think the up wouldn't call him out at 3rd because the play was completed at 1st. It was smart but it shouldn't have worked.
@@Gravy_Jones22 agreed. I was thinking the same thing. Ump called runner out for 3rd out. At worst, Duda should just have to remain at 2nd.
The hitting the batter to stop stealing from home is something I never heard of
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Can't the batter just swing at it, turning the HBP into a strike?
Yep, that's what I was taught from the time I started pitching. @samueloverend3517 is also correct, you were taught to keep the bunt up and go for the ball even if it's coming at your head. Turn your head and put the bat towards the ball.
@@samueloverend3517 Swing and miss with the pitch hitting him would be a strike, but it would still be a dead ball.
Rare instance of verlisify not complaining about a Pokémon player
yet we still have the infamous javy baez play 🤣🤣
That’s #1 on the DUMBEST plays of all time, not smartest.
I would call it a heads up play, Baez removed the first baseman’s ability to think when he acted so fast. He acted like he knew something the first baseman didn’t know so he got tricked into ending his own career.
@@jjwats12 thats what im saying
@@ThomasPoorman --- If Baez simply stopping on the 1st base path 'removes the 1st baseman's ability to think', that points to how DUMB the 1st baseman responds, not how smart Baez acts. 99,999 times out of 100,000 the first baseman steps on 1st and laughs at Baez. Funniest play in baseball history, though, for sure.
@@jjwats12 What bothers me about that play is...why weren't any of the Pirates yelling at Craig to get his head back in the game and step on first? They were going along with it just as much as he was.
Hold On.. On the Freeman 4th Out play.. After the Ump calls the guy at 1st out for the 3rd out, wouldn’t the play be dead? Even though he’s eventually safe, can’t the runner going to 3rd say he stopped cause the Ump called the 3rd out which should automatically kill the play.. I feel like after being called safe from the challenge, the runner should have to go back to 2nd or whatever base he’s on when the original call was made.. How can they allow the play to keep going??
Agreed. NOTHING can happen after the 3rd out call, even if it was due to a bad call and replay later overturns it. The 3rd out was called, the inning was over, the ball was dead, the tag on the runner (think it was Duda) meant nothing, and did not even exist as a baseball play, because the inning was over.
If the Mets had challenged the out call at first, that call would have been overturned, and the batter becomes safe at first. That tag put on Duda meant nothing since it happened after a 3rd out was (incorrectly) called. Likewise, when that 3rd out was called, Duda didn't yet reach 3rd base, so he should have been sent back to second base.
It *was* a really smart play by Freeman, but I don't think it would have been successful if the Mets challenged. And I wish they did.
Freeman threw the ball to third in case the batter-runner was called safe, or the out call was overturned. He wanted to make sure they got an out.
There is a way to legally get a fourth out, but this isn't it.
@@judyjohnson630 If the call at first was overturned, the umpires would have to decide what happens if the correct call had been made. That means the out on the runner going to third would be out and the inning would be over.
@@alanhess9306 Yes, I understand that & it makes sense if he threw it just incase he was called safe. The problem is that the call being overturned is irrelevant at that point if the original call is Out. Once the ump makes the 3rd Out call, the play is dead. If they check the replay & realize he’s safe, they can’t go off of what happened after that. Freeman’s throw is irrelevant. Only makes sense just incase he’s originally called safe.
@@FrankThe77Tank No that is not true.
8.02(c)
" If the umpires consult after a play and change a call that had been made, then they have the authority to take all steps that they may deem necessary, in their discretion, to eliminate the results and consequences of the earlier call that they are reversing, including placing runners where they think those runners would have been after the play, had the ultimate call been made as the initial call, disregarding interference or obstruction that may have occurred on the play;"
If the correct call had been made at first base, the runner going to third would still be out.
It was a smart move by Freeman.
For those wondering how to defend against the baserunner taking off during an appeal, you as the defending team have to focus on making the appeal as quickly and directly as possible and THEN make a play on the runner. If there were 2 outs and the appeal is successful, the inning is over but if it's not or there are less than 2 outs, you do still need to make a quick play so you can still try and get the runner.
No way that Rollie Fingers Pitch was a strike 😂
That was waaay outside 🤣
It was over the plate
That’s definitely a strike
It may have been the smartest play ever, but the Reds went on to tag Fingers, and win the game to keep the series alive.
@@Nonsensicl hell naw! 😂
@@Footballedits-l2k disagree. wish they had pitch cast then. Looks outside to me
That Freddie freeman play was insane
Not really, just common sense. If you're not sure you got the 3rd out, try to get an out somewhere else.
The runner on 2nd messed up; he should have not taken for granted that the 3rd out had happened and kept running and not slowed down. (This is why, if there's two outs, the runners will start running when the ball hits the bat.)
the mental reaction time to think of something like that in that amount of time is pure genius. when we have time to think about it is when it seems like common sense.
As an Astros fan, I'm humbled. I thought Tucker was a damn idiot when I saw that game. Dude's a damn genius!
The baseball equivalent of quick-snapping the football before the opposing coach can throw a challenge flag.
Except, in this case, it looks like the umps just flat-out blew the call. Watching the video a couple times, it looks like the third baseman caught the ball with his foot still on the bag _before_ tagging Tucker. So Gurriel should have been called out at that point and the inning would be over. Apparently, it was the umpires who got fooled, not the Diamondbacks.
But like they say, "If it's stupid but it works, it isn't stupid."
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me too and i dont really even like baseball
You turn into confetti?
It does I went to one game
Frrrrr
Show this to a person just learning the rules of baseball to explode their brain
I was thinking about that Miggy at bat all video, glad it got mentioned!
If you're playing on a hard bag at first the 1B probably knows with ~75% accuracy if the runner is safe - just from the feeling on the bag. Super smart play by Freeman at 13:25
Former first basemen. Can confirm. And if it's close, pull your foot off, point at your infielder, look at the other runners, convince the ump you know you got the out.
@@sam.houseworth But it was close. And he didn't do that. Besides, the throw to third was not decided on the runner's contact with the plate. He knew to throw as soon as it was coming his way.
@@sam.houseworth lol sooooo true. Especially when you know they beat the throw. Even in the majors it's worth doing that. Used to do the trick to toss the ball to 2B and let them go over to first just in case the runner was safe and stepped off the bag
I had been almost exclusively a Basketball fan for the last 5 years. This channel has single-handedly made me a Baseball fan. MLB cut this man a check.
@6:30 I'm having to stop the video because I'm dying.
This game is so messed up. I love it.
I did the same kkk😂
I really dislike that MLB took away the intentional walk. It can and has changed the outcome of games.
16:23 says “in a tie game”. Then the guy scores, and says “forcing the game into extra innings.”
Skunk in the outfield is my favorite play ever. The kid in that video should be out though. The basepath, once established, goes directly from the runner to either base. He ran back towards the Right Fielder when “retreating”, which would put him out of the baseline. It can be maneuvered correctly, but I don’t think he did it right.
No, he wouldn't be out of the path because he was running straight back to where he started. Because the base path only became established once the other team started to try and tag him, the base path became a giant V due to his starting point.
@@Kyle_116you're 100% right.
14:00 Freddy probably knew that the runner was safe, no matter how people were acting. He probably felt the bag shift before the ball hit. So he KNEW there were only 2 outs, and went for the 3rd. Even though people were reacting to the catch like the runner was already out.
15:55 earlier in the video you knew that the basepath was only during a tag attempt but now apparently you've forgotten it.
During a throw the runner can be anywhere they want (except to intentionally interfere with the throw). There is no base path because there is no tag attempt.
he was in a pickle, there's a tag attempt associated with it
15:39 i would say is a tag attempt
@@nileprimewastaken There is. Then as soon as he throws the ball there is no longer a tag attempt. A tag attempt is when a fielder has the ball and is attempting to tag. Throwing is not "attempting to tag" therefor the tag attempt was stopped.
I love how BDE shows an actual hit and run before talking about the hit and run.
What are the odds of perfectly capturing a hit-and-run on a live television broadcast.
Idk man, the guy purposefully tripping to distract the pitcher from the guy stealing home is the smartest thing here imo lmao
This is the best channel on UA-cam, hands down.
David Wright had the most perfect stance in that he had very little movement with his eye level with the turn your front foot, rather than lift it off the ground, and it changed baseball forever.
Also, Eric Davis, Mo Vaughn, Ryan Klesko, Cecil Fielder, Ruben Sierra, Mickey Tettleton, Frank Thomas, Will Clark, Rafael Palmerro, Moises Alou, Vlad Guerrero, Chipper Jones, Darryl Strawberry, and many more, are rightfully wondering how their stance was not shown in a 15+ min clip! Julio Franco was only shown 1X as well!
Can’t wait to watch coney react to this lmao
The Coney-BDE symbiotic relationship is the strangest thing and I love it.
there is an even better way to execute a 4th out:
Runner on second, 2 outs. batter hits a flyball into the outfield gap. Runners scores but does not touch third base. batter is thrown out, trying to slide into second base.
the run counts, inning is over. however the defense can then immediatly play the appeal on third. The appeal on third base leads to the 4th out, however this out has priority over the third out at 2nd base and effectively becomes the third out. run does not count, inning is over. I don't know if that ever happened in an MLB game, but this is the stuff you learn at umpiring school.
Always a good day when BDE uploads
GREAT VIDEO! I laughed at most of them. It's insane how smart umpires have to be to know all of these forgotten rules.
Actually, the catcher cannot step in front of the batter during an actual pitch... it's catcher interference (like if the bat hits their glove in a swing) and the batter goes to first
Rollie Fingers talked about this play on one of Bob Costas' show, I think in the mid to late 2000's. Costas had Fingers, Rich Gossage, Lee Smith, Dennis Eckersley, Bruce Sutter and I think Sparky Lyle. According to Fingers, Joe Morgan , who was on 3rd, saw it coming and started yelling to Johnny Bench , but apparently Bench never heard him. I've never been able to find the episode, but it was fantastic hearing about the history of the relief pitcher.
Can you do a video on the history of stadiums?
What stadiums? They don't exist.
@@sam.houseworth no like how they started and how they have changed the game of baseball
I loved Carter Capps deliver, man. That was the kind of silly games from a pitcher I live for.
Kudos for making this video... had to be a lot of work and research. Very educational. You know your baseball stuff for sure.
Solve the baserunning hack by ruling: once a tag is attempted, the runner must proceed straight to the next base or return straight to the previous base
If the defensive player gives up on trying to make a tag, the runner is then free to run wherever he wishes.
@@alanhess9306 Crazy hypothesis: Runner attempts to reach home, catcher gets ball and begins attempt to tag the runner but then throws to 3rd, then runner changes course and goes towards 1st base and the 3rd baseman returns the ball to the pitcher as the runner reaches 1st :)
@@kbarrett63 That is crazy. There are a couple of ways to call that runner out.
@@alanhess9306 in my day, runner had 3 feet on either side of the baseline to travel. I am old:(
@@kbarrett63 The rule is that the runner has three feet to deviate from his base path, not the baseline.
The baseline is a straight line between bases.
The runner's base path is established when a tag is attempted and is a straight line from the runner to the base he is trying to achieve.
No tag attempt means there is no base path and the runner can run wherever he wishes.
0:18 fartin on the baseball to give the pitch some extra stank.
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Making me like baseball
I saw one in an independent league game a few years ago which deserves to be on this list. A batter had a 1-2 count, with the bases empty. The pitcher, who had not been having control issues, threw a wild pitch. As the ball got past the catcher and was rolling to the backstop, the batter realized the situation-and swung at it, very late. Thus making the play a strikeout, with the catcher not catching the pitch-and he easily ran down to first base.
That's better than every single obvious choice made in the video!
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Wow man what an amazing video. The strategy involved in baseball makes it one of the best sports in the world.
Great stuff! Another great one!
I love this video. I love this type of content, If you can cover this more about Smart plays dude I’d watch every single one of them.
Love your content man keep it up😊
Yep
That play where 1st and 3rd double stole and the guy on 1st fell... Genius
Freakin' love baseball.
Running through second base is one of the smartest new changes in baseball.
47 career stolen bases for Brandon Belt. He deserves better than a "very slow" assessment.
Yeah, over 10+ years
Trust me, he is very slow
That's about 4 steals per season. I know he's constantly on the DL but that's still an underwhelming stat.
Also I question the inclusion as a smartest play in baseball. Swinging at the pitch does not make you clear. Batter cannot fall into the catcher's way. That was borderline interference. The runner could have (maybe should have) been called out.
The fact that after finding that most pitchers werent touching the rubber when they pitched, the MLB didnt start enforcing this rule but instead decided that the rule didn't have to be followed is nuts.
Just enforce the rule you have in place already. No need to complicate or alter the rules further.
This plays are absolutely amazing for a sport that doesn't exist!
Honestly I don’t even watch baseball but his videos make me so excited
3:38 pablo sandoval had to suck in his belly fat in order to dodge the pitch
I don’t know how old that scene is, but Pablo stepped on the plate. Today that would be interference and the runner is out
Only cheating if you get caught
3:16 got me DEAD LMAO. Something about the pitcher throwing iut to the moon and the batter fully committing to it got me DYING XD
You've got talent, keep showcasing it
The way to avoid ever being thrown out in an MLB baseball game is this: On your way to tryout for a Major League team, turn around and go somewhere else instead. It worked for me.
Now runners have a shift?
Didn't expect my Wildcats to get metion so cool!
I love your videos
Video's like this is why BDE is then greatest sports channel on YT.
The ad read with ohtani on the angels 💀
Good video,thank u. The video proves why they should have to pitch for the intentional walk!
The graphic at 6:54 is wrong. The runner cannot move away from the base further into the outfield. The basepath is a path *toward* the base, never away from.
If the defender stops trying to make a tag, the base path ceases to exist and the runner can run anywhere he wants
@@alanhess9306 in the example at the timestamp, the defender is attempting a tag, and the runner is moving into the outfield.
@@babababad The fielder with the ball is at least 20 feet from the runner. That is not a tag attempt. The tag attempt occurs when the fielder is close enough to reach out and and try to tag him.
@@alanhess9306 I'm talking about the graphic at 6:54, not the video of the actual play. The second baseman has the ball in the proximity of the runner and is pursuing the runner, while the runner is moving in a straight line away from second base into the outfield. This is an oversimplification of the play that actually occurred, and as a result the graphic depicts a baserunning violation.
This channel should have way more subscribers. Even if you're just a casual baseball fan, it's still entertaining.
He didn't add 8 feet. He added the distance he jumped which was about 2 feet.
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That Kyle Tucker play must’ve pissed of so many people, making it even funnier to me😂😂
If you're playing on a hard bag at first, the 1B can probably tell if the runner is safe with around 75% accuracy merely by feeling the bag. Incredible move by Freeman at 13:25
Keep showing off your talent, you have it.
“Throwing off the catcher” bro you mean murdering the catcher lmao
Damn, hearing him having to explain how intentional walks used to work makes me feel old as hell
Can't believe all these ingenuous plays happened in a game that doesn't even exist
that tucker steal play is pretty smart. no bending the rules, but cooking with them.
The old grandpas gunna be mad at this one
I'm gonna' start watching baseball because of your videos.
This channel is so entertaining
Thanks!
Sorry but I'm gonna skip through the ad shown at 8:45, because UA-cam already forces us to watch a bunch of ads before and during the video.
2:28 "and the next time he came to the plate, he was also nailed by a pitch." 😂🤣
Yes he posted!
Fun fact, if the runner gets hit with a pitch over the plate it is an automatic out. So you could get away with just waiting for the runner to get near to the plate and hit the runner
So you're gonna count on your ability to hit the runner over the plate a millisecond before he's able to touch the plate and score the run?
@RatatRatR It doesn't matter if they touch the plate. If they get hit by the pitch, they are automatically out.
@@wer1123 not if they score first. Think about it, how long is a runner "over the plate" before he touches it and is safe? About a fifth of a second?
You are totally wrong.
From JR;
"If a runner is attempting to steal home and there is a pitch that touches him at the plate, the pitch is ruled either a ball or strike and it is dead. Every runner (including the struck runner) is awarded his advance base. However, if the pitch was a third strike the batter is out, and if such out is the third out, there is no run."
Was hoping to see the College Center Fielder fake a catch before catching the ball, and throwing the runner out, by making the runner leave the bag early.
real bde fans are allowed to like this comment
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NOW THAT'S baseball. Using all the trickery & talents of thinking the game.
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In the Freddie freedman play it doesn’t matter if its out bc new play like the next play in the video
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My favorite video of yours yet, keep ‘em coming 😉
Like I've always said.. if a pitcher hits a batter on purpose, the batter deserves to get a free swing on the pitcher. Bet we won't see pitchers throwing at batters anymore when they know it will result in some major facial reconstruction..
God, your formatting is so interesting, it feels like a Nolan film.
Crazy that I found this channel when they had like 50k subscribers. So happy you continue to make videos. Best baseball videos ever!
Please never stop making videos… Baseball is SO Awesome!!!!
Great video, but pitcher's mound is not 62' from home plate: 11:23.
Capps original delivery was already crazy, how did he expect to come back with a full on double jump and get away with it😂
Eager to see Conney's response to this, lol
your videos have gotten me back into baseball
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