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I have a 2011 GL450 and I am in the 8th year of owning it. Bought it used because of the third row which is pretty roomy. It costs a little to maintain but it runs good and material is excellent. This video was a good therapy for me.
Actually that M273 is a 4.7L. 4,663 cc. The 550 would have gotten the 5.5L version of the engine. As far as I know, this X164 GL is the only US market vehicle to ever get the smaller M273. Everything else was only available as a 550 (I guess I'm referring to the E-class and S-class).
2007 GL450. Now 164k.Everyting works, Loads of room in the 3 rows of seats. Replaced front air shocks, repainted left rear fender (clearcoat was coming off) and the occasional light bulb. Looks great, pleasure to drive. I use liqui-moly in the engine coolant and oil (just me). Highly recommend Michelin tires.
I can see Tommy trying to figure out how he can keep the older Mercedes and his LR3. Fuzzy logic button engaged. I'd replace that center screen on the old Mercedes with a CarPlay compatible one after all maintenance is caught up on.
Had a 2007 Mercedes GL450 for a while a couple years back. Had a lot of really huge advantages as well as disadvantages. For one, the interior was awesome, it's hard to believe it came from 2006-2007 to be honest. High quality materials that held up even after I believe what was around 15 years. The engine was great, powerful for its time, sounded good, and only really started to have issues near the end of its lifespan. The vehicle aged really well for a car from the 00's in my opinion, I mean compare its looks to some American brand cars from the same time period. There were also lot of features that were way ahead of its time, such as air suspension, unibody SUV, assisted cruise control, assisted parallel parking, etc. However, its reliability was subpar and when something did break it was very expensive. The air suspension system was clearly in its early stages as the first gen GL450 air ride bags were prone to malfunctioning, leaking, and literally exploding. An air bag in the rear violently exploded after overfilling, and one in the front developed a leak. The engine also eventually started misfiring in one of its cylinders. It managed to last to 180k miles, which I suppose overall is quite good for a Mercedes from the 2000's. It was still a good experience driving it though, and I do quite miss the car though even to this day.
Before you conclude that the X167 has no interesting off road chops, you need to find one with the E-ACTIVE body control suspension. It has individual wheel height control, and can actually adapt to uneven terrain as you drive. Many videos on youtube.
A friend had two of the old model but in the UK they had the 3.0 V6 diesel engines. Certainly the older one, which must be over ten years old by now, had the off-road package. That was a GL of course, not GLS and am pretty sure the newer one was also the last of GL, which would be five years old or more by now, had it too. He changed it last year when the suspension played up by randomly raising to the high level at 70mph and dealer unable to replicate or repair. The earlier one started blowing suspension airbags at about 50,000 miles and after a massive charge for replacement he then bought the parts and fitted airbags himself. He now has a BMW X7
Actually tires are not that big on this example... I think in Europe the standard for this GLS is 315-335 tire on a 22-23 inch wheels. It is needed because it certainly will be doing 120mph on a cruise control all day long on an autobahn. With the car weighing 2,5 tons... it sounds reasonable.
The new GLS with offroad enhancment package does have actually all the offroad equipment as the old one - that includes LR and locking differentials. So comparing the GL with Offroad package with a GLS without one isn't exactly "apples to apoles" comparison...
The digital screen on the 2024 looks dated with the huge bezel, and graphics which look more like a video game than an instrument cluster. Fun video, thank you.
The A, B, C, E, S is a reference to the A-Class, to S-Class. The former M (ML) is now GLE and the GL is GLS. There is no D-Class as it might be confused with Diesel.
have they moved the placement of the battery from beneath the floor? I wonder how the current GLS with the off road pack would compare offroad, noting it doesn't have any locking diffs nor do I believe low range but has various tech to make up at least part of the difference
Small correction guys... the M256 engine is actually twin charged. It has an electric supercharger on the cold side that creates 9psi of boost instantly.
Great video but I find it funny that Tommy called the new GLS reliable towards the end, I mean it probs is compared to the old GL but compared to most other cars it's very unreliable. I personally wouldn't buy either car but I love watching videos on both fs, especially the old one.
I currently live in spain.. and ALL the gl's that are for sale have that offroad package... I'm guessing it came standard in europe? 🤷♂ Never gave this suv a second look until this video series ...
From the last video very complicated mechanically for your average owner. I don't think I would by a used one and would not buy the new one. Lexus? Lol
When I see people driving Mercedes SUVs (newer and older) like these two things pop up: 1) Insane maintenance and repair costs. 2) Low balance savings and 401k . 😭
There are a few things I don't like about my GL550 The 21-inch wheels are not necessary. I'd rather have a smaller wheel and a better off-road/all-season tire. Mine has a beige interior. It's not worn, or ripped or anything like that. It's just difficult to maintain and doesn't age as well as black. if my truck had a black interior it would be perfect. The cargo nets behind the front seats are horrible. I understand why MB put them in. They are meant to be utilitarian storage for wet items, a bottle of water etc. The reality is that when you have little kids sitting in a car seat they kick the back of the seat and tear the nets with their shoes by pulling on them. I would love to replace my nets with solid pockets like my S550 has. my 2011 GL has a different center stack. The radio and climate control are different. Mine doesn't have a digital display. I think that setup was optional on mine. Mine does have a rear entertainment system that is different from 2009, and I have heated rear seats. The GLs have two USB ports. One is in the glove compartment, and the other is in the passenger side wheel well against the center stack. The GL550 has 54 more horsepower and more torque than the 450 and believe me you know it's there. It's so powerful off the line that there is torque steer. My wife loves driving it, and drives into Manhattan 3 to 4 days a week. She says it's a solid like a tank. I just wish her and the kids took better care of it. I am embarrassed when I go to the car wash. It's not a bad car, it does what it's supposed to do and can do a lot more if needed. Just knowing I could take it off-roading, or tow 7500 pounds with confidence is an added bonus.
I miss when y’all actually gave good reviews and didn’t comment on stupid stuff. It used to be facts. Now it’s commenting on something with a sport package having wide tires. 😂
I had a GL350BT and it was great until the warranty ran out. It did have "niggles" here and there but once the warranty ended....OMG, the worst Mercedes ever!!!! Suspension, sensors, sensors, sensors, engine lights like a Christmas tree and on and on. Final straw was the rear tailgate wiper motor and new injectors required at the same time. The mechanic must have loved the thought of my car coming in. And it wasn't even high mileage! I drove as fast as I could to a new car dealer and traded it in. Even though they offered me peanuts for the car I let it go and have not regretted it one day. In fact, I made the decision not to buy another s&*t box Mercedes again! My experience is just awful after owning many, many Mercedes over the years!
What do you mean package . Gls comes in trim level Starts with Amg line plus Business class AMG Maybach Non come with those old GLE wheels they are so 2018 design. Now stop, this is not a cross over it suv you want cross over model buy R class that was cuv version This was a 7 seat suv like the GLE.
The new one will last about 8 years before it grenades. The old one will last 6 months of daily use N 100/8 ~12 O 8/.5 ~ 16. They lose value at ~ the same rate. Choose the Old one. Fewer losses to learn your lesson to avoid German vehicles,.MB and M278s.
Benz realized their mistake trying to manufacture cheaper vehicles. 2007 and newer Benz made a renewed effort design to build better luxury vehicles after dumping Chrysler. Wonder why Benz had to design their own annoying version of Bluetooth. That 4 wheel option is good for modern pothole filled city streets and run away from eco terrorists. I have to wait 15 years before I can afford 2024 450GL. Hopefully computer screens will last that long?
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Love the aerial drone shots. It looks like you're on the surface of the moon with all the groundhog mounds and holes😂!
All of the accessory belts inside the engine ? 👀👀👀👀👀🙈🙈🙈🙈 hell nahhh
He’ll naw inside the engine
He meant there's no belts driving the accessories. They're electric motors.
"So your kids can smoke." 😂😂🤣
Tommy I prefer the older styling on the GLS.
I have a 2011 GL450 and I am in the 8th year of owning it. Bought it used because of the third row which is pretty roomy. It costs a little to maintain but it runs good and material is excellent. This video was a good therapy for me.
Actually that M273 is a 4.7L. 4,663 cc. The 550 would have gotten the 5.5L version of the engine. As far as I know, this X164 GL is the only US market vehicle to ever get the smaller M273. Everything else was only available as a 550 (I guess I'm referring to the E-class and S-class).
That $8,000 Mercedes is going to turn into a $40,000 Mercedes real fast 😂
lol
He fails to mention that old GL was very very comfortable when it was new...
“A nice little cubby so your kids can smoke” 😂
2007 GL450. Now 164k.Everyting works, Loads of room in the 3 rows of seats. Replaced front air shocks, repainted left rear fender (clearcoat was coming off) and the occasional light bulb. Looks great, pleasure to drive. I use liqui-moly in the engine coolant and oil (just me). Highly recommend Michelin tires.
We will have to see how the off-road fun will play with reliability, I definitely want to see more videos
I can see Tommy trying to figure out how he can keep the older Mercedes and his LR3. Fuzzy logic button engaged. I'd replace that center screen on the old Mercedes with a CarPlay compatible one after all maintenance is caught up on.
I dig the GL450, I'd rather have it then the new one
''a nice little cubby so your kids can smoke'' omg XD
Had a 2007 Mercedes GL450 for a while a couple years back. Had a lot of really huge advantages as well as disadvantages. For one, the interior was awesome, it's hard to believe it came from 2006-2007 to be honest. High quality materials that held up even after I believe what was around 15 years. The engine was great, powerful for its time, sounded good, and only really started to have issues near the end of its lifespan. The vehicle aged really well for a car from the 00's in my opinion, I mean compare its looks to some American brand cars from the same time period. There were also lot of features that were way ahead of its time, such as air suspension, unibody SUV, assisted cruise control, assisted parallel parking, etc. However, its reliability was subpar and when something did break it was very expensive. The air suspension system was clearly in its early stages as the first gen GL450 air ride bags were prone to malfunctioning, leaking, and literally exploding. An air bag in the rear violently exploded after overfilling, and one in the front developed a leak. The engine also eventually started misfiring in one of its cylinders. It managed to last to 180k miles, which I suppose overall is quite good for a Mercedes from the 2000's. It was still a good experience driving it though, and I do quite miss the car though even to this day.
Before you conclude that the X167 has no interesting off road chops, you need to find one with the E-ACTIVE body control suspension. It has individual wheel height control, and can actually adapt to uneven terrain as you drive. Many videos on youtube.
A friend had two of the old model but in the UK they had the 3.0 V6 diesel engines. Certainly the older one, which must be over ten years old by now, had the off-road package. That was a GL of course, not GLS and am pretty sure the newer one was also the last of GL, which would be five years old or more by now, had it too. He changed it last year when the suspension played up by randomly raising to the high level at 70mph and dealer unable to replicate or repair. The earlier one started blowing suspension airbags at about 50,000 miles and after a massive charge for replacement he then bought the parts and fitted airbags himself. He now has a BMW X7
Actually tires are not that big on this example... I think in Europe the standard for this GLS is 315-335 tire on a 22-23 inch wheels. It is needed because it certainly will be doing 120mph on a cruise control all day long on an autobahn. With the car weighing 2,5 tons... it sounds reasonable.
incorporated inside the motor sounds like super expensive repairs
He meant all the accessories are now electrically driven so there are no belts. This has proven to be quite reliable.
Our 2010 GL450 has been rock solid reliable, and still drives and looks near new @ 166k miles. It has reclining rear seats too, just not power :D
The new GLS with offroad enhancment package does have actually all the offroad equipment as the old one - that includes LR and locking differentials. So comparing the GL with Offroad package with a GLS without one isn't exactly "apples to apoles" comparison...
Not in the US…
I enjoy the old vs new comparison.
The digital screen on the 2024 looks dated with the huge bezel, and graphics which look more like a video game than an instrument cluster. Fun video, thank you.
The A, B, C, E, S is a reference to the A-Class, to S-Class. The former M (ML) is now GLE and the GL is GLS. There is no D-Class as it might be confused with Diesel.
This has been a cool series :)
Isn't every new Mercedes 10 times the cost of the old one within a few years lol.
have they moved the placement of the battery from beneath the floor? I wonder how the current GLS with the off road pack would compare offroad, noting it doesn't have any locking diffs nor do I believe low range but has various tech to make up at least part of the difference
14:05 "A nice little cubby so your kids can smoke". Sold me on that one.
Small correction guys... the M256 engine is actually twin charged. It has an electric supercharger on the cold side that creates 9psi of boost instantly.
love the sarcasm at 14:07
how many miles are on the 08 that you have here? Did you get an exceptional deal on the 08 or is what you paid a typical price?
Buying a used Mercedes is like buying an old grenade. You have no clue when it is going to explode and how much the damage is going to be.
The around 20k usd 2016 GLS 450 would be the best option, looks great, has an amazing price and has updated infotainment
Great video but I find it funny that Tommy called the new GLS reliable towards the end, I mean it probs is compared to the old GL but compared to most other cars it's very unreliable. I personally wouldn't buy either car but I love watching videos on both fs, especially the old one.
I currently live in spain.. and ALL the gl's that are for sale have that offroad package... I'm guessing it came standard in europe? 🤷♂ Never gave this suv a second look until this video series ...
From the last video very complicated mechanically for your average owner. I don't think I would by a used one and would not buy the new one. Lexus? Lol
GX
When I see people driving Mercedes SUVs (newer and older) like these two things pop up: 1) Insane maintenance and repair costs. 2) Low balance savings and 401k . 😭
If I'm paying a premium why do I get ads, Morgan scamming, Patreon. All of this in 5 minutes
I think i would rather have a Yukon Denali with the 6.2L than this. It doesn't have the cache of the MB name, but it is bigger and can tow better.
Driven both. GLS handles like a chubby girl, but the Yukon handles like a ‘bout to pop preggo with two-bun pickninnys.
I kinda want one now…never will but would like to.
There are a few things I don't like about my GL550
The 21-inch wheels are not necessary. I'd rather have a smaller wheel and a better off-road/all-season tire. Mine has a beige interior. It's not worn, or ripped or anything like that. It's just difficult to maintain and doesn't age as well as black. if my truck had a black interior it would be perfect. The cargo nets behind the front seats are horrible. I understand why MB put them in. They are meant to be utilitarian storage for wet items, a bottle of water etc. The reality is that when you have little kids sitting in a car seat they kick the back of the seat and tear the nets with their shoes by pulling on them.
I would love to replace my nets with solid pockets like my S550 has. my 2011 GL has a different center stack. The radio and climate control are different. Mine doesn't have a digital display. I think that setup was optional on mine. Mine does have a rear entertainment system that is different from 2009, and I have heated rear seats.
The GLs have two USB ports. One is in the glove compartment, and the other is in the passenger side wheel well against the center stack.
The GL550 has 54 more horsepower and more torque than the 450 and believe me you know it's there. It's so powerful off the line that there is torque steer. My wife loves driving it, and drives into Manhattan 3 to 4 days a week. She says it's a solid like a tank. I just wish her and the kids took better care of it. I am embarrassed when I go to the car wash.
It's not a bad car, it does what it's supposed to do and can do a lot more if needed. Just knowing I could take it off-roading, or tow 7500 pounds with confidence is an added bonus.
I had an apple this morning
How do you know the new one is more reliable in the long term? 🤔
Neither are worth any of the expense
One advantage this MB has over my Tundra is a rear locker...then advantages vaporize.
GL isn't the "root 4" underdog the Touarag was. It is a killer deal though.
This episode soundtrack reminded me of Oceans 11
Everything incorporated inside the engine? That's doesn't sound great for long term ownership. Maintenance/repair will be very expensive. 🤔
He meant all the accessories are now electrically driven so there are no belts. This has proven to be quite reliable.
that old version after full repair cost almost 50 or 90k?
The old Merc looks better. I don't need cohesive.
What is the tire size of the AT tires on the old GL?
It should be said that the wheels on a UNIMOG...are only 20 inch??
Please compare it to my 2006 VW Touareg V8 with air suspension for $6,000 and 120k miles.
I miss when y’all actually gave good reviews and didn’t comment on stupid stuff. It used to be facts. Now it’s commenting on something with a sport package having wide tires. 😂
Men like edges and chrome accents. Ladies like New shiny designs that match their friends.
In other news: *I FINALLY POOPED TODAY!!!!!!!* Been feelin like a preggo with a pickninny, FINALLY dropped it off at the pool!
The engine cover on the GLS literally looks like a Mazda engine cover.
I prefer the old!
It looks so elegant and masculine. 👍🏽
I have a 2014 porsche cayenne diesel. Maybe you should buy it and put it to test…😁
I had a GL350BT and it was great until the warranty ran out. It did have "niggles" here and there but once the warranty ended....OMG, the worst Mercedes ever!!!! Suspension, sensors, sensors, sensors, engine lights like a Christmas tree and on and on. Final straw was the rear tailgate wiper motor and new injectors required at the same time. The mechanic must have loved the thought of my car coming in. And it wasn't even high mileage! I drove as fast as I could to a new car dealer and traded it in. Even though they offered me peanuts for the car I let it go and have not regretted it one day. In fact, I made the decision not to buy another s&*t box Mercedes again! My experience is just awful after owning many, many Mercedes over the years!
Good luck getting parts
He didn't literally mean the belts are in the engine did he? Or did he mean as its driven my the electric motor thus no belts.
Good JOB Tommy....
Why are you advertising for 3 different law firms?
They have bills to pay.
I always heard the older one was very unreliable, but that's just hearsay.
Actually the older GLS is not a bad looking German SUV...
It is. The new one looks like when your dog hangs his head out the window and the breeze is flapping his jowles.
@@FrankySilverFace 🤣🤣🤣🤣
GL S, because the wanted an S-Class SUV.....Easy!
What do you mean package .
Gls comes in trim level
Starts with
Amg line plus
Business class
AMG
Maybach
Non come with those old GLE wheels they are so 2018 design.
Now stop, this is not a cross over it suv you want cross over model buy R class that was cuv version
This was a 7 seat suv like the GLE.
Try this with Kia Borrego - another unicorn.
I have 272k on my 07 GL450 :)
MA
Old is gold
I like the old one better. People who buy the new one have more dollars than sense (common).
The new one will last about 8 years before it grenades. The old one will last 6 months of daily use
N 100/8 ~12
O 8/.5 ~ 16.
They lose value at ~ the same rate. Choose the Old one. Fewer losses to learn your lesson to avoid German vehicles,.MB and M278s.
It must be 10x better. It’s 10x better, right??
Doubt the new one will be more reliable
Benz realized their mistake trying to manufacture cheaper vehicles. 2007 and newer Benz made a renewed effort design to build better luxury vehicles after dumping Chrysler. Wonder why Benz had to design their own annoying version of Bluetooth.
That 4 wheel option is good for modern pothole filled city streets and run away from eco terrorists.
I have to wait 15 years before I can afford 2024 450GL. Hopefully computer screens will last that long?
The new one looks like an oversized GLB, which is also ugly
That v8 sound terrible
What about reliably??? These vehicles have cheap garbage with built in plan Obsolescence.
what car reviews never mention is how it looks UNDER the car. don't get fooled :)
They have been under the car…
i only skimmed through the video but haven't seen a single shot on the suspension gears drive unit etc etc
@@elektroauto4599Done in another video for the GL450
@@AB-jz9ns ok so not done in the video with the suggestive "98k vs 8k" Thumbnail. exactly my point
X166 better
Endorsing attorneys now….. byeeeee
Bye!
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Long time subscriber here and I like your videos, but they are tooooooo looooooooong. Talk less, cut them down.
M256 - the harness for the coils disintegrates before 50k miles. Yet another untested pos creation by Mercedes. Such a shame
It’s ugly. End of.
There’s nothing more expensive than a cheap Mercedes Benz
There are plenty of things which more accurately fit that phrase. Boats… airplanes… do you live under a rock?
@@Kaktus965 no but I wish you’d stayed under yours
@@vintagehaynesflute Can't. I got mine off at ur sisters house. 😜
@@Kaktus965 I doubt it since she died last month
@@vintagehaynesflute Why didn't you tell me sooner???!! I left my numbchucks over there...!
Who buys a Mercedes in 2024?
People that want to?
Apparently nobody in your circle……………
True, you need to be at least 60 and living in palm beach