Are We Nuts!? We Just Bought Not One, But TWO Land Rover Defenders!
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- Опубліковано 30 лис 2024
- ( www.alltfl.com/ ) Check out our new spot to find ALL our content, from news to videos and our podcasts! After we had some issues with our first brand-new, four-cylinder Land Rover Defender, we're giving it another shot at redemption. But that's not all! We also bought a classic Land Rover Defender. Roman and Tommy lay out the idea behind these purchases and what we plan to do with these Defenders!
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Cars aside, do you know how many people want the relationship with their kids that yall have. The content is always fantastic, but I must also commend you for the father you must be. You sir are an inspiration in more than one way. Keep up the great videos
In the Uk we can get galvanised chassis and bulkheads for series and Defenders, if you do the swap you get a vehicle that will outlive an Oak tree.
I have a 1966 Series2A that has been in central California it’s whole life. Original rust free chassis. Daily use on a cattle ranch.
I own a 1966 88” Series 2A Land Rover, that was still in daily use on a cattle ranch here in Central California. It’s original chassis and bulkhead are rust free. It leaks, it is slow , it is very noisy, it is not comfortable, it is difficult to drive,
It is perfect!
I have owned many nice cars in my 65 years, but none get the attention or is as much fun as my old Landy.
On a quiet night in the bush in Africa, you can actually hear a Defender rust...lol. I had a Series 3 2.6 6cyl Safari 109. Never had a vehicle make me smile so much...or cry...😅
My 2022 D-90 is an absolute beast. I’ve had it for 2+ years with no issues at all. Have a dual battery with onboard 800watt charging (charges from alternator), Onboard Dual ARB compressor with Tank plumbed into the air system in case there is a factory compressor failure, 1.5” lift and 34.2” tires. It’s been rock solid for me, no issues or lights at all.
Just wait.
@@andyleo8418for what? Been driving Land Rovers for 20 yrs. My experience has been minimal issues for 20 years on all the Land Rovers I have owned.
@@andyleo8418always you negative nancies.
@@stop_lying_bro It's always the keyboard warriors who've never owned a Land Rover who have the most negative opinions.
Where did you kount the compressor?
3 years with my Defender 90. Love mine
i had a D200 90 and loved it so much that i ordered a new D300 90 exactly as i wanted it: tasman blue, all basic but all the options that help offroad. i love it and haven't had any problems with both of them
Hey Tommy! I have a 130 and beware of the wheel locks!! I don’t remember if you had them on your 110 when you blew the tires, but I had a similar experience blowing two tires on a forest road and couldn’t do any thing about it because the dealer did not give me the wheel lock socket key. Make sure you have it before going off road!!!!!
The wheel lock and tow eye were missing the the 2020 I just bought but they found some in parts dept. Good advice.
Always love Land Rover content on the channel.
I have had my 93 90 200tdi with 2" lift, 33" tires , Ashcroft lockers for nearly 10yrs now. Came from southern Europe so not rotten. Sees quite a bit of off road use and as you can imagine it works well. Drove it from Ontario Canada to Colorado, Moab a few years ago. Makes short work of Red cone. A bit of brutal road trip when temps get up into the upper 30s c.
Great spec! Love the 2 door, color combo and wheels!
I work in sales at Land Rover North Austin. Handover pack is a little box with two Land Rover keychains one blue leather and one metal one.
Hey can we come and buy cars me and my dad
I LOVE my P400 HSE. I'm 57, my Ranger Tremor was terrible for road trips. Like you mentioned, it's about your use case scenario. Jeep is more capable off road but I need to road trip several times a year 1300 miles over a weekend, and tow a 22' travel trailer. Jeep or Bronco wouldn't work. Defender is great off road here in the Blue Ridge Mountains, even with 20" wheels. No sharp rocks Tommy. Can't wait to see more Defender content.
“only nine inches ground clearance, so it’s not a lot”. And yet the new Toyota LC only has eight.
What do you expect from TFL when it comes to Land Rover? I watch them for entertainment but watch others for good honest reviews. A friend bought a defender 2 years ago even after the negativities from TFL and he was very satisfied with his purchase and was glad he didn't listen to them even until now
The expectation with the LC is that you will lift it & put larger tyres on. I have a 300 series (you dont get them in the US or the UK) & it was one of the first things I did with it.
@@jerryfrench2981 and Toyota will use that to void your warranty if you have driveline/suspension/chassis issues. Expecting more ground clearance than a Subaru for the stock vehicle is not asking much.
@@husshardan3511 You can go the 2 inch lift & 7% increase in tyre size & it wont void your warranty. Have your lift done by someone like ARB & you wont have any problems. I'm also insured with Toyota who had no problems with the mods done. They are listed on the policy.
@@JerryFrench-v2z Page 14 in the warranty manual specifically states the warranty does not cover any damage or failure as a result of vehicle alteration. You lift your LandCruiser - you have altered and modified it and Toyota can deny a warranty claim. This is why it is super lame that Toyota did not give it sufficient clearance from the start.
Love my Defender. Make sure you get a GAP IID Too and unlock the many features you’re missing. It’s also a good tool for reading codes and overriding many issues. Put some Sarek lift coil spring on it and it will be a beast.
Finally! You get one with 18s!
Im in salt lake and I have a 24 p300 base 110, 18 steelies, skids, rear dif, air. I tow a car with it occasionally and offroad. I really like the small screen actually.
Let me know next time youre in town.
The Grenadier is the only new vehicle on the market that is exciting. I’ve seen only one. Can’t wait to get my hands on one.
Very nice! I just got a Defender 90 V8 a few weeks ago.
Sold my 2 door Bronco Badlands. I am really a v8 guy, and since discovering the existence of a v8 2 door SUV thought I would have to give one of these a try.
It’s my first time owning a British car. Really looking forward to your Defender 90 content.
There is some video shorts on my channels if you want to see it.
What’s you Chanel ?
Be İNSANE about the maintenance of your Rover
British car? Manufactured in Slovakia, by an Indian company, with a German drive train. Can't get more British than that
@@kevinbarry71 No wonder their so reliable. 😀
@@robertyoung8289it was never reliable under british nor under americans but it has been now. It has improved a lot.
Also - with a $600 GAP IID tool you can enable Adaptive Cruise Control and a whole slew of other options like automatic terrain response.
Can you on US models? I’ve seen tons of this in Europe but wasn’t sure in US. I’ve had 110 for a year. Would love to enable adaptive cruise and dynamic drive mode.
@@michaelhalstead64 Apparently yes. I haven't done it myself but have heard from other US owners that its possible - and not only that but it doesn't void the warranty.
@@michaelhalstead64 it is easy and JLRs decision not to enable it on vehicles in this price range is rediculous
The rubber floors are a significantly overlooked feature. Even for daily use. However, this the dealer not give you the floor liners? Or original owner kept them? Weird.
@@michaelhalstead64 Yes, bought a GAP tool for my new 90, and it works great. I shut off the annoying start stop, added configurable dynamic mode, since mine is a V8 I opened my exhaust valves in dynamic mode. I hated the brake hold feature and shut that off as well. Just so many trick features that can be enabled or disabled depending on different owner preferences.
It really is a must have tool for Land Rover owners.
The TFL90 already has adaptive cruise. It was a 1200 option on their sticker.
When as I understand it all Defenders have the feature and for 600 and a GAP tool you can go in and enable it. lol
Going through the carfax’s of the ones currently for sale. It’s crazy how many of them have 2-3 previous owners before 20k miles. Probably a combination of people realizing 2 doors aren’t for them, the payment isn’t for them, and the trips to the dealer for repairs isn’t for them. Looking at the reports, they seem to be chasing gremlins with most of them.
Roman: "who's gonna buy a tractor in 2024, Tommy?"
Grenadier: "hold my beer"
Those 200tdi are brilliantly reliable, would love to transplant one into my series 33 88inch.
Love that it is a used 90!!! Looking for this series.
Yes ALL Defenders of any spec come with Low Range and Terrain Response. Super capable even in the most basic spec.
The plating next to the bonnet is called checker-plating.
The Bronco isn’t “really” a convertible. Yeah you can take roof panels out. But the whole roof doesn’t fold away. And who wants a convertible anyway - no one?
I don’t think any of us make our buying decisions based on your reviews - but we love watching them.
I just picked up a 2022 L663 that still had 2 years left on the warranty for less than half of what they want a new bronco sasquatch for. So far we had to replace the windshield due to a leak under warranty - but other than that its been flawless.
Gives me original 2 door rav 4 vibes. Obviously much fancier etc but those old rav’s are classic.
Great choice base models are the jam
I put A/T tires on my GX460 and every time I took it to the car wash they would put tire shine on them. I kept telling them not to as it just attracts dirt when you drive it off road but they never listened so I just stopped requesting that. Love that green color on the Defender. I rented a 4 door Bronco Sasquatch with the soft top for a weekend and man the top on that thing is an engineering afterthought. You can't open it fully in the back and there is nothing to keep it open if you're trying to load or unload the back cargo area. Then along the sides it really isn't attached to the frame of the roof at all. In a cross wind I remember seeing huge gaps open up that you could stick your entire arm into (you can also do this when the vehicle is parked). I'm not a fan of top off/down driving because it is typically either too hot or too cold and then there is the risk of overexposure (sunburn, skin cancer etc). No thanks, I'd rather have a roof over my head, which brings me to the Bronco hard top and the reports of creaks and rattles, a common complaint I hear from Jeep owners as well. That would drive me nuts, constantly hearing strange noises while driving. I couldn't deal with that. So, the Bronco and Wrangler for me are a no-go. Ford should make a hard top version with a non-removable roof. I would be interested in that.
Great video guys. I think you need to do more videos like this, and I enjoyed all the banter about the comparisons of the Defender to others in the marketplace.
the 3.5L v8 was very pop in oz it also came with a 130in wheelbase ute model. Now worth a little fortune. if you wanted a good landy you swapped the v8 with a diahatsu disel.
Owner of a 150k, fully loaded, final production yr LR3 but in the market for a 'new' D90 as a replacement. Looking forward to your answer Tommy
These are growing on me, I actually know of two in my neighborhood within a few blocks of each other, one is a mint green with the steelies, and another one is the blue of the 110 you guys had. Apparently the people with the blue one really like it, because they also have a white 110.
Bravo….. 🎉 the best two purchases so far 💪🏽
Enjoy
Next door neighbor has a blue 90, and I've seen a few driving around the TX Hill Country, so not that rare to me.
Very nice... looking forward to the vids!
Even though they took some of the beastliness out of the new Defender in favor of modern convenience, I like the new Defender. It has a great look for sure. It's more off-road capable than 90% of other vehicles on the market. You can give it to your wife to drive and she's not mad. It's a well rounded, off-road capable vehicle.
Hand Over Pack is a box of swag like a land rover or jag branded wine glasses, key chain or coffee thermos that you get when buying a JLR vehicle
I prefer the right hand drives, I'll put the money into a 90 and a110 project I have. We drive on the left side of the road in Dominica(not the DR) but besides that they were designed to be right hand drives with engine and transmission offset to the left. Better balance and more footwell space for the driver and middle front seat passenger
There are lots of ex Rental Car Defenders …. I looked at a couple and decided against it / too risky. 2L engine - you are brave. A Pillar is loose because windshield has been replaced. I have a 110 V8 Carpathian (40k / No Issues / Brilliant). Defenders eat windshields. Also, I have a new Discovery and they are very different animals, so comments relating to Defender vs Disco I understand but aren’t really accurate. No doubt I’ll see you around Boulder CO!
I'm very happy you got this 90, I can't wait to see how it does off road. Bishop and Rook out of MN and the UK would be I am sure happy to sell you an old defender, they have a bunch. You guys should do some work with them too. Would love to see you compare it to an old 90 defender with a diesel 200 or 300 engine.
The Handover Pack is your key fobs and key fob attachments, ie - "Key Chain" so to speak.
Land Rover , teaching drivers/owners to be mechanics for 70+ years.
Actual both my Series 1 88 diesel and my Series 2A diesel 109 are still going strong after all the years. BTW I'm the proud original owner of both.
Cool episode, I just lost my dad so enjoy those special moments Roman and Tommy
thx for the video. have always been interested in the D90 because it's the only US import version that is somewhat more utilitarian. Unfortunately having had 2 Rovers, a Disco and a Range Rover, (and driven many many others) my wife no longer allows me to own another one... lol (but I'm still looking for a "classic" D110...)
I have a 2 door Bronco and i agree with you all. 2 door off roaders just look better and not everyone has one.
$54k for this. I can’t wait to see how well it really does off road and on road driving daily usage. I know TFL will do everything with it. And give us the facts about it. Glad to see you are trying this again.
This and the 2-door Broncos look like their previous ancestors and really hit those nostalgic feels
TFL really feeling lucky. Either that or they know stuff breaking down makes for good content
I have shopped a D90 with steel springs; however I’m concerned that the underbody “protection” seems to be just some sort of strengthened fiberboard and not steel. With the 8” ground clearance are you concerned about dragging that weaker material over rocks and damaging a critical component? I’d appreciate your opinion
Looking forward to seeing more 👍
Love the green paint 💚
I have a 24 P300 110 4 cy turbo....mpg is averaging 23....and it has enough power to do anything....real world is alot different than what you see published on mpg
I like these father & son reviews because you guys have a funny "Siskel & Ebert" banter. I thought Roman was going to rip that loose panel off before you made it to the restaurant. It's a good looking vehicle and even though I don't like screens it's nice to see an car manufacturer take the time to place it IN the dash instead on ON the dash.
Cant wait for more videos
Just bought a Defender 110. It’s fantastic, same color combo! 5 year 48,000 mile warranty, I’m going to drive it and enjoy it. Just did a quick 1,000 mile road trip and it is flawless on the highway. I’ve owned over 60 cars, very few had character. This one has it!
Since it has traditional coil springs, put a lift on it.
Cool paint scheme.
I always wonder why the North American Spec (NAS) Land Rover Defenders from the 1990s are so valuable. I really don't think it's because of the left-hand drive because you can get plenty of cheap left-hand drive Defenders from Continental Europe and Africa, especially the ones produced by Santana in Spain, which are less than right-hand drive ones. I think it's mostly the V-8, but I'm different from other people because I would prefer a I-4 Diesel over the V-8 any day for fuel economy and lower maintenance costs.
One will broke because of its technology while another one because of its mechanical.
Its a life of a Land Rover
Looks awsome.
The perfect car for UA-cam and TikTok influencers
Unlike many modern Land Rovers, the older ones are almost bulletproof, very capable off-road, and reliable. Would love to loan it to you for a direct comparison video!
Please contact us at info@tflcar.com
@@TFLcarI'd loan you my Grenadier for that comparison as well.
Great work lads, look forward to seeing more of this
Ruh roh
Cool thanks
I would not even in my dreams buy a new Land Rover Defender but I would love to own a land rover defender with 300tdi. This was very popular in Asia and put to lot of torture and come home with a smile on your face.
LR3 4.4v8 Here, love it still every day.❤
Great vehicles
now i need you to put ashcroft atb's in the 110 and take it offroad and let us know your verdict... have a 110 galvanised chassis and galvanised bulkhead 1986 and going strong swapped the old n/a diesel now though for a td5 best choice so far the 200 and 300 tdi are magnificent and durable. the new discovery named defender is way to techy like the grenadier to much electonic dohikities.
Always love Land Rover content! I own one of these 110’s and love it to death! It’s called HCPU (High Capacity Pick Up). 😁👍
Between salt lake and Denver did y'all catch the land rover caravan of test vehicles? Friends of mine were road tripping out that way and say a big convoy of them all camouflaged. They ended up running into them from Vegas all the way back to Denver and pikes peak.
This is what I really wanted for the longest time. I wasn't crazy about the new Bronco interior materials.
Something I find interesting, that has briefly been covered here, is the sad story of GM... They had a product for the sudo luxury/ off road market in Hummer, and they were about 10 years too early to the market. I would almost guarantee if they brought back the H2 (on the revised Tahoe platform) and the H3 (on the revised Colorado platform), they wouldn't be able to keep them on dealer lots. The H-ev is a flop because electric cars (as a whole) are a flop, not because the brand is entirely unloved.
Can you stand in the back seat with the sunroof open? I tried that with the cloth top and there is plenty of room for doing that, but the cloth top was discontinued :(
Booyah 👊🏽 😁 👍🏽 🇺🇸
Nice defender! Love the 2 door
We all miss Toby. You should take it to him to see if he notices anything after the 10k miles.
Where did the l405 go?
Love the color
would have been a way cooler rig, if options with the 6 seater config.
GX has alot of engine issues!!! and really you can't take that where a defender goes, plus the inside is so much better than a GX
Wow that suv is slightly lighter than my 1500 trailboss lol dawmn that thing is heavy
Roman I like where you’re at mentally these days, you’re a chill easy going and fun perspective to watch- cool you’re enjoying the time with your son and acknowledging that. Very curious how your experience with this LR goes, your last experience threw me way off the defender path and years later I’m now in an R1S after a couple other less satisfying vehicles. You guys are the gold standard in this stuff, even when I disagree. Thanks for bringing us great content for so long!
Roman says thanks for the kind comment!
Glad you went back to trying. the Defender.
The options are not even close. I love my 2021 Defender 90 X Dynamic SE. brilliant off-road. The others are rattly and cheap.
I’d like to hear the backstory on why it was traded in so soon at 10,000 miles.
Great that Edinburgh got a mention ❤❤❤🏴🏴🏴
Big shout out to Tommy for mentioning my home city and pronouncing it correctly ! , from a TFL fan for over 10 years !.
@@aidanwilson6035 100% 👏🏻
2 Dr. is the pick! Better job this time!
I wish they kept the 6 seat configuration from the launch year. That was aweesome.
That little guy is pretty cool
Over the years, videos from this channel occasionally get recommended. It is cute to see how the son starts looking more and more like the father. Just the youthful voice hasn't changed.
Needs a 2in lift
I am watching from Edinburgh actually 😀
good for you man, I don't even have a car haha :/ and I've been working so hard to buy a car, but this overpricing from companies and dealerships are nuts. Enjoy the ride! pretty nice ones!
So that old defender is a diesel one? how do you deal with that in US?
I am so jealous I would love one or both of those lol
Nearly perfect. Should have the front bench/jump seat and no sun roof, then it would be perfect. Just add a TAXA trailer and travel.
I have a 2006 10 seat 110 TD5 Station Wagon, I may sell.
May? See that means you don't really want to. I have a 2013 110, you will have to pry it out of my dying hands letting it go.
Wow that price and no off-road goodies ... im still excited about the Defender 90 tho!! I've been wanting you guys to do a 90. Hey I still hope one day you'll get another white 110 and do that series. I was stoked about that and wish it had worked out like you guys ORIGINALLY planned as an overlander.
Your observations about the ride quality at 13:45 may be as much a factor of the LT tires (BFG vs. OEM Goodyears) as it is coil springs vs. air.
You're blaming the 20" wheels that you spec'ed? That's not the fault of the tire.
Your highway mileage is most likely affected by the fact that the Defender has the aerodynamics of a brick wall.
Land Rover owners are some of the strangest vehicle fans I've ever known. Last guy I knew who had one spent no less than $5k in repairs every year he owned it, but whenever he was asked how he liked it he'd tell everyone what a great and reliable vehicle it was. It was like Stockholm Syndrome in an automotive way. I'm a Jeep guy and it was absurd even to me! lol
Land Rover is still in business because of Stockholm syndrome and show-offs, I swear.
They break down so often that they’re barely even enjoyable imo, how is it not the same even for those who can afford the repairs?
@@faheemabbas3965 How many have you owned?
@@faheemabbas3965 Old Land Rovers were pretty solid though i.e Camel Trophy. Their reputation went downhill after the early 2000s
That classic defender is one of the vehicles I have always wanted to own, the other being classic FJ.
GO BIG RED!!! Sorry Tommy!
Boooooo
@@TFLcar🎻