The New Minecraft World Record is One of a Kind

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  • Опубліковано 7 січ 2024
  • Drip120's new Minecraft RSG Speedrun World Record is one of a kind, both for what goes down during the run, and the fact that it was rejected by the speedrun.com team for using an illegal mod. In this video, I break down and analyze this new record, and explain exactly what's going on with the leaderboard moderator team's decision.
    Huge shoutout to Drip120 for this run; you can check him out here:
    / @drip120_
    Other runs shown from:
    Nofear1337 - / @nofear-drdisrespect
    Zylenox - / @zylenoxv
    fe666 - / @fe666
    Cube1337x - / @cube1337x
    Semperzz - / @semperzz7309
    T_Wagz - / @twagz
    Crookst - / @crookst
    Songs Used (in order):
    HOME - Living Forever As You Are
    Synth Kid - Wanderlust
    Max James - Realizations
    KING PALM - Radio Waves
    Hurricane Turtle - Clouded Skies
    Foewi - Close
    Alexander Nakarada - Space Ambience
    HOME - Fahrenheit
    Yu-Utsu - Sun
    Celeste - Resurrections
    Outro prod. NickHitt Beats: • [FREE] Drake Type Beat...
    This is not the story of a Minecraft player who possibly cheated to get a faked Minecraft speedrun world record, and not the story of their friend who also did not cheat to get a faked Minecraft speedrun world record. Fake Minecraft speedruns are insane, almost as insane as this description! If you want to see a fake cheated Minecraft 1.16 world record speedrun, this is not the video for you!
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  • @PretzelBS
    @PretzelBS 3 місяці тому +4083

    The controversy can easily be solved in 3 ways
    1. Allow the mod
    2. Patch world preview so it doesn’t crash
    3. Make a new mod that is verifiable and achieves the same thing

    • @kittenish7116
      @kittenish7116 3 місяці тому +256

      2&3 dont solve the controversy, as :
      2: patching world preview would make drips mod obsolete, but he still used a illegal mod
      3: same as 2

    • @damnthisisabadname
      @damnthisisabadname 3 місяці тому +8

      2 was already done afaik

    • @binchamers
      @binchamers 3 місяці тому +104

      The mod used is open source and actually is verifiable, it just had not been verified yet.

    • @CraftingHock
      @CraftingHock 3 місяці тому +114

      I think a good course of action is this:
      1. Allow the mod.
      2. Then re-review this run and allow it given the new rules.
      3. Have two flares on every run. One flare for if the run is still valid given updated rules, and a second flare for whether the run was valid given the rules when the run was submitted.
      The third step is important because it still incentivizes runners to go out of their way to make sure they are following the speedrunning guidelines and not hoping the mods will bend the rules if they do achieve a WR. Runners would rather have an uncontested WR than one with a flare stating they did not follow the rules provided at the time. But, this policy would still allow the mods to allow obviously legitimate runs where the runner forgot to cross all their t's and dot all their i's.
      Another positive benefit of this policy is that the mods can have their cake and eat it too: they can stay consistent to their policies while still allowing legit runners who did not follow guidelines to be on the leaderboard.
      A final positive benefit of this policy is that old runs that used to be valid but no longer are would be specified as such. This would allow us to better compare old runs that used strategies/mods that are no longer allowed so we can compare apples to apples.

    • @tildejustin
      @tildejustin 3 місяці тому +3

      option two has been done

  • @patrykelebouthillier9478
    @patrykelebouthillier9478 3 місяці тому +3020

    here’s a solution, allow the mod. tell anyone who was rejected to re submit their runs

    • @kepler69c32
      @kepler69c32 3 місяці тому +246

      yes, that's the only rational way to solve it. anyone could see the source code for the mod and state that it doesn't contribute to cheating

    • @AlbertaEh
      @AlbertaEh 3 місяці тому

      the people decide if its official not a few discord mods..@@kepler69c32

    • @hamdepaf6686
      @hamdepaf6686 3 місяці тому +44

      Thought the same thing, I mean resubmitting shouldn't be a problem, no? And like it doesn't seem like allowing the mod will be all that difficult.

    • @DarkYuan
      @DarkYuan 3 місяці тому +19

      That's what I'd do. Not manually re-verify all previous runs, but ask anyone with such an unverified run if they want to be re-verified

    • @H3n7yx76
      @H3n7yx76 3 місяці тому +10

      Yes! I Agree, The mod should be allowed! All it does is prevent your game from crashing, and it’s actually ridiculous that they declined the run just for that.

  • @damnthisisabadname
    @damnthisisabadname 3 місяці тому +5050

    This run is the world record.

    • @timedfornoreason758
      @timedfornoreason758 3 місяці тому +75

      We know

    • @erikas2272
      @erikas2272 3 місяці тому +27

      7:45 is the only valid world record.

    • @homework4206
      @homework4206 3 місяці тому +97

      No, it used a prohibited mod. This sets a horrible example for others and I completely understand why the mods rejected the run.

    • @malachiter228
      @malachiter228 3 місяці тому +14

      The video says 27 minutes ago but your comment is 41 minutes ago how

    • @timedfornoreason758
      @timedfornoreason758 3 місяці тому +9

      @@malachiter228 it was first livestreamed he must have made the comment at the beginning

  • @HarryS56
    @HarryS56 3 місяці тому +2365

    The minecraft speedrun mod team is ridiculous. So an external tool to find the exact position of the stronghold is allowed but something that prevents game crashes isn’t.

    • @battle188883
      @battle188883 3 місяці тому +175

      Iirc the argument for why calcs are allowed is that you can technically learn to do it by memory and calculations alone. What's stopping someone from pausing the game to do the calculation themselves lmao
      I still find the calc existing an unfortunate thing mind you, but I can kinda stand by the decision when without the decision, it would be optimal to pause the game while doing the calc by yourself, and take however long you need to do so.

    • @hamdepaf6686
      @hamdepaf6686 3 місяці тому +87

      Well the problem isn't really that the mod isn't allowed, like it's understandable by the sheer amount of mods that exists, that not every technically legal mod is actually explicitly legalized.
      The problem is that by the time of the run it wasn't legal to use the mod, thus by technicality this run broke the rule. Basically the mod team has to reject this run out of fairness and upholding the rule everyone has agreed to. The mod team also has to be super vigilant with any "world Record", take dreams run for example.
      All in all this situation is unfortunate, but I think it shouldn't be too much of a problem, because it should be possible to make the use of this mod legal and than have the run be resubmitted.

    • @Przemko27Z
      @Przemko27Z 3 місяці тому +81

      It's a matter of rules and technicalities. The mod wasn't disruptive, but any mod not explicitly legalised is forbidden. So, per protocol, the run was rejected. Since it's the job of the team to uphold the rules, it's arguably the right move to do so. They gotta play by their own rules if they want to be taken seriously.
      Now, they should probably just allow the mod so the run can be resubmitted, though.

    • @majormushu
      @majormushu 3 місяці тому +21

      ​@@hamdepaf6686iirc dreams controversial run wasn't world record it was like 6th place. It was only scrutinized because he is so popular

    • @hamdepaf6686
      @hamdepaf6686 3 місяці тому +3

      @@majormushu ah, misremembered.

  • @JujanGames
    @JujanGames 3 місяці тому +462

    That’s like winning an Olympic event but you were disqualified for taking stroke medication

    • @arrowoflightezpez
      @arrowoflightezpez 3 місяці тому +6

      For real!

    • @bybakermade
      @bybakermade 3 місяці тому +39

      You’re right but the example is unfortunate because a popular illegal doping drug for many endurance athletes is actually a stroke treatment: EPO. 😂

    • @truechaosmulala3831
      @truechaosmulala3831 2 місяці тому +3

      I feel like a more amp example is by having a bandaid on

    • @psyche1182
      @psyche1182 Місяць тому

      Why do I see u everywhere rt main

  • @Al-hb6uj
    @Al-hb6uj 3 місяці тому +1444

    When illumina did it he was allowed to have the title, but drips was rejected

    • @vanilluhs
      @vanilluhs 3 місяці тому +40

      yep

    • @mothgirl326
      @mothgirl326 3 місяці тому +23

      It might have been because it was less competitive back then

    • @Ghosty6464
      @Ghosty6464 3 місяці тому +375

      If this part is true, this absolutely is just favoritism. It's an open-source mod, anyone can look at it. I can't fathom why "some are more equal than others" in this scenario. Drip won.

    • @thango3292
      @thango3292 3 місяці тому +10

      same with sagi

    • @esqzk
      @esqzk 3 місяці тому +9

      @@mothgirl326 thats when it was at its peak viewership tho his vid got like 4 million views

  • @aymanac7143
    @aymanac7143 3 місяці тому +717

    this run was insane, i remember seeing it in my youtube recommended thinking it was troll because of how little time it had been since NoFear's run. But wow. This game is a crazy one and RSG WR will never not be unfathomably impressive

    • @vanilluhs
      @vanilluhs 3 місяці тому +9

      me too man, i had the exact same thought process as you but when i realized it was real i was going absolutely mental

    • @scoper7897
      @scoper7897 3 місяці тому +1

      @@vanilluhs well its not official wr so it doesnt count. Shouldnt have cheated with unverified mods bro. It is what it is

    • @vanilluhs
      @vanilluhs 3 місяці тому +2

      @@scoper7897 they allowed drips run to be submitted, are u slow?

    • @___Somebody___
      @___Somebody___ 24 дні тому

      @@scoper7897 anti crash aint cheating

    • @scoper7897
      @scoper7897 24 дні тому

      @@___Somebody___ it is.... according to RULES.....

  • @TheNamesFathom
    @TheNamesFathom 3 місяці тому +824

    The blue text at 16:43 is basically exactly what should be done. If a mod is used that is only for performance and quality of life, the speedrun should be allowed. Of course it should be heavily investigated but if the mod is harmless, there’s no reason it should stop a run from being verified. Imo the mod team definitely owes an apology to the people they’ve done this to, even if they didn’t necessarily want to do it.

    • @fojtch
      @fojtch 3 місяці тому +39

      the thing is you'd ahve to do this for every leaderboard submission, which just sounds impossible. you have to admit that the decision of the mod team to treat all runs the same is respectable, irrregardles if they wr or not

    • @Eroil
      @Eroil 3 місяці тому +25

      ​@@fojtchdid they treat everything the same? Since drip had a 9 before this (which i assume used the same mod) and wasn't that run on the leaderboards?

    • @TheNamesFathom
      @TheNamesFathom 3 місяці тому +7

      @@fojtch …which is why they should’ve done it sooner
      if they were to do it now it’d be a huge undertaking for sure

    • @prowou2503
      @prowou2503 3 місяці тому +36

      This isn't feasible atm. The run verifiers already spend a lot of their own time verifying runs for no monetary compensation. The queue to get a 1.16 rsg run verified is about 4 months at the moment if my recently verified run is any good estimate. It's unfair to go up to people already doing a lot of work for the sake of the community out of kindness alone and tell them they also have to start investigating code and all of the interactions it has with the game to ensure it grants no unfair advantage. If you want a mod to be allowed, petition/argue for it, and get it approved. The work done in verification shouldn't go any further than a check to see if used mods match something that is allowed. The game's too hard to moderate already - there's no reason to just tack on more variables into the verification process when there just don't have to be.

    • @sixroller6147
      @sixroller6147 3 місяці тому

      🤐🧏‍♂

  • @Anthonythechickenman
    @Anthonythechickenman 3 місяці тому +376

    I think there should be an exception like with illumina when he had fabric api installed and it was still allowed since he was a trusted runner, it's hard not to drawcomparasons here

    • @Arnav_was_taken
      @Arnav_was_taken 3 місяці тому +11

      In Illumina's run , because it was livestreamed and he contacted the mods right after completing the run, they were able to actually confirm that api didn't hide anything, it wasn't just because he's a trusted runner.

    • @PixalGD
      @PixalGD 3 місяці тому

      @@Arnav_was_takendrip was also live 😭, the mod is also open source

    • @blastburne7465
      @blastburne7465 3 місяці тому +82

      @@Arnav_was_takenthis mod is open source, so just like illumina’s case the moderators can see the code and know that it didn’t modify the game itself.

    • @KingOzymandias_
      @KingOzymandias_ 3 місяці тому +74

      @@Arnav_was_taken Drips run was livestreamed... The mods are able to actually confirm that the mod doesn't hide anything because it's open sourced... It was because he's a trusted runner... The mods literally said themselves the mod that couldn't allow the run to be verified was harmless...

    • @Arnav_was_taken
      @Arnav_was_taken 3 місяці тому +5

      @@KingOzymandias_ true , i was just correcting the op that illumina's run was not verified because of trust but it was proved to be valid . I do hope drip gets his wr verified tho.

  • @flummox12
    @flummox12 3 місяці тому +295

    And to think if he hadn't missed that pearl, if he got 1 blaze rod from the first 3 that he killed, if he hadn't went for that gold block, if his hands were a little faster at crafting, he would've been the first sub-7 runner ever, is crazy, extremely impressive nonetheless.

    • @s41ntp4bl0
      @s41ntp4bl0 3 місяці тому +20

      or that jump in the nether where he clipped on a block

    • @nothingherezero7182
      @nothingherezero7182 3 місяці тому +4

      The first sub 7 run ever that maybe isn't cheated is. A bedrock run

    • @3reaper
      @3reaper 3 місяці тому

      people have beaten bedrock in like 15 seconds, java isn't comparable since it has many less bugs than bedrock does@@nothingherezero7182

    • @ignDart
      @ignDart 3 місяці тому +1

      @@nothingherezero7182yeah but it's unverifiable

  • @crimsonlily3640
    @crimsonlily3640 3 місяці тому +191

    16:22 if they rejected the run because they care about other players and want to be fair to them, then i think they should listen if those same players are asking for this wr to be on the leaderboards

  • @Mew_Tea
    @Mew_Tea 3 місяці тому +378

    The run can be valid in the future if the mod team allows the mod to be used, meaning this is going to wr or close to it in the futute

    • @psychopiper8224
      @psychopiper8224 3 місяці тому +60

      I hope they make that decision soon. Denying this run is a spit in the face to this community's collective effort over these past few years, and especially towards such an incredible run with such a harmless, open source mod installed for the sole sake of crash prevention. I've generally agreed with the mods in the past on their decisions, but keeping this run denied will severely dampen my trust in their judgement. We should not be punishing players for having poorer hardware when they're using provably fair mods to equalize the playing field - the last thing MC speedrunning needs is a fat paywall in the form of a beefy computer

    • @zacharia4061
      @zacharia4061 3 місяці тому +4

      They had plenty of time to reverse the decision and have not… so it probably won’t

    • @psychopiper8224
      @psychopiper8224 3 місяці тому +28

      @@zacharia4061 Discussions are actively happening, both between the mod team and within the community. We need to make it clear that this run is legitimate and belongs on the leaderboard, surely they will listen if the community desires it

    • @tnt_gaming21
      @tnt_gaming21 3 місяці тому

      they wont though. they just took the route of patching worldpreview

    • @skiburc2252
      @skiburc2252 3 місяці тому

      HI MEW!!!!

  • @scpWyatt
    @scpWyatt 3 місяці тому +114

    The history of Minecraft is all about unconventional underdogs. Let the record stand.

  • @watema3381
    @watema3381 3 місяці тому +39

    This is the world record. No one can tell me differently.

  • @Error591
    @Error591 3 місяці тому +174

    best thing to do is extensively test the mod to make sure it definitely doesn't affect the gameplay then verify it. and then verify the run

    • @jakubkoj1
      @jakubkoj1 3 місяці тому +53

      what? the mod is few lines long, and it is opensource…

    • @dumfu
      @dumfu 3 місяці тому +82

      They literally said that the mod is harmless. The moderators themselves. The only reason they didn't verify the run is to set an example, lmfao.

    • @kirboman5175
      @kirboman5175 3 місяці тому

      @@orang9134 He used fabric api.

    • @stanzacosmi
      @stanzacosmi 3 місяці тому +4

      @@orang9134 it was fabricAPI apparently which is purely a library for other mods rather than a mod itself.

  • @PlasmaticPi
    @PlasmaticPi 3 місяці тому +117

    Yeah this should definitely be allowed. If all this mod does is make it so worse computers can perform at the same level as everyone else then I don't see any reason why it shouldn't be allowed, as all it does in broaden who is eligible to compete. In fact from a certain view disallowing it makes these world records pay to win in a way, since only the people with the best computers can do the most runs without fear of crashing and therefore have the best chance of winning.

  • @haiech
    @haiech 3 місяці тому +33

    5:22 buried treasure spawns and 9 9, stronghold spawns at 4 4

    • @disturbedo7901
      @disturbedo7901 3 місяці тому

      Yeah i was little confused, bcs i know about the buried treasure 9 9, didnt know about the stronghold, thank mate

  • @Jaikip
    @Jaikip Місяць тому +18

    well, its not rejected anymore. its #1

  • @doggyw00f18
    @doggyw00f18 3 місяці тому +86

    A new WR isn't really a WR until the TwT video drops. Or maybe a WR isn't really a WR until doogile sets a second place time after it. One of the two for sure!

  • @SKgamer-vx1pm
    @SKgamer-vx1pm 3 місяці тому +187

    Im pretty sure we all agree this should be the world record.

    • @Przemko27Z
      @Przemko27Z 3 місяці тому +11

      I feel like pretty much everyone agrees, just that it's not on the leaderboards over a technicality.

    • @buzzaboo
      @buzzaboo 3 місяці тому +3

      yes everyone does agree

    • @baltulielkungsgunarsmiezis9714
      @baltulielkungsgunarsmiezis9714 3 місяці тому +3

      100%

    • @baltulielkungsgunarsmiezis9714
      @baltulielkungsgunarsmiezis9714 3 місяці тому +5

      @@Przemko27Z So the leaderbord is wrong and can not be looked at as the cannon this is horrific.

    • @Przemko27Z
      @Przemko27Z 3 місяці тому

      @@baltulielkungsgunarsmiezis9714 The leaderboard is *right under the rules of the leaderboard*. If the run breaks rules, it's not on the leaderboards, *that's how rules work*.

  • @Koolasuchus8
    @Koolasuchus8 3 місяці тому +22

    The worst thing to take into account when considering not allowing this run to register is that its going to demoralise other speedrunners and demotivate them from beating a technically 2nd world record.

  • @CraftingHock
    @CraftingHock 3 місяці тому +26

    I think a good course of action is this:
    1. Allow the mod.
    2. Then re-review this run and allow it given the new rules.
    3. Have two flares on every run. One flare for if the run is still valid given updated rules, and a second flare for whether the run was valid given the rules when the run was submitted.
    The third step is important because it still incentivizes runners to go out of their way to make sure they are following the speedrunning guidelines and not hoping the mods will bend the rules if they do achieve a WR. Runners would rather have an uncontested WR than one with a flare stating they did not follow the rules provided at the time. But, this policy would still allow the mods to allow obviously legitimate runs where the runner forgot to cross all their t's and dot all their i's.
    Another positive benefit of this policy is that the mods can have their cake and eat it too: they can stay consistent to their policies while still allowing legit runners who did not follow guidelines to be on the leaderboard.
    A final positive benefit of this policy is that old runs that used to be valid but no longer are would be specified as such. This would allow us to better compare old runs that used strategies/mods that are no longer allowed so we can compare apples to apples.

  • @Idktho767
    @Idktho767 3 місяці тому +74

    It may not be official world record but everyone agrees that this is the new record lol

    • @Comomelo
      @Comomelo 3 місяці тому +15

      The good thing is that there is no official, if these mods decide it isnt valid we can just ignore them and maybe move on to another site.

    • @baltulielkungsgunarsmiezis9714
      @baltulielkungsgunarsmiezis9714 3 місяці тому +5

      It is the world record. And any organization that rejects it can not claim to have an official list.

  • @jukesdtj656
    @jukesdtj656 3 місяці тому +16

    This should very clearly be put on the leaderboard, and the mods can do it very easily. The "illegal mod" is just an optimizer for an existing allowed mod and the entire point of the allowed mods list is to allow optimized clients so lower end pcs don't hold back amazing runners.

  • @rayandthejets
    @rayandthejets 3 місяці тому +20

    it may not be on the leaderboard, but that doesnt change the fact that this is the fastest rsg run ever. crazy run, huge ggs to drip.

  • @Ghosty6464
    @Ghosty6464 3 місяці тому +19

    If you got the world record, and you didn't cheat in the game, you got the world record. If exceptions have been made in the past, as people are saying, it seems insane for an *open-source* mod to have caused this barring from the leaderboard.

  • @meatsauce12
    @meatsauce12 3 місяці тому +35

    actually so dumb that this run would get rejected for a mod like that. it's a performance mod like all the others. this run is so valid

  • @thango3292
    @thango3292 3 місяці тому +25

    For some reason the argument from the moderation team is false because many exceptions were made in different rules,for example sagi enderman who generated a seed (unintentionally) in the middle of his run.

  • @smiley_exe4960
    @smiley_exe4960 3 місяці тому +10

    The fact that there is still room for improvement here is insane.

  • @michaelrogers1066
    @michaelrogers1066 3 місяці тому +11

    There's no reason why they can't just clear the mod, put it on the allowed list, and retroactively verify the run.

  • @damnthisisabadname
    @damnthisisabadname Місяць тому +4

    It's on the leaderboards🔥

  • @eruick047
    @eruick047 3 місяці тому +32

    I can't belive they thought saying that they rejected other runs for the same reason would make people less upset IM EVEN MORE UPSET BY THOSE OTHER RECORDS WHO NEVER GOT THE RECOGNITION THEY DESERVE

    • @nothingherezero7182
      @nothingherezero7182 3 місяці тому +1

      And it doesn't matter they're trying to be fair

    • @3reaper
      @3reaper 3 місяці тому

      being unfair to everyone doesn't mean you're being fair, it just means you're a poor moderation team@@nothingherezero7182

    • @joel784
      @joel784 3 місяці тому

      ​@@nothingherezero7182 Then why not walk up to those players and say
      "Hey? Do you want this to be the new WR?"

    • @TheJacklikesvideos
      @TheJacklikesvideos 3 місяці тому +1

      @@nothingherezero7182 no, they're rationalizing being lazy. trying to be fair would be fixing the rules and taking the effort to retroactively apply it.

    • @CoalOres
      @CoalOres 3 місяці тому +1

      Yeah, like okay what reasoning did you give to the *first* person rejected for this? If that reasoning was good, then that's your real answer and you should say so; if that reasoning was bad, then the first person's run should not have been rejected in the first place and therefore you can't use their rejection as justification.

  • @frederik1179
    @frederik1179 3 місяці тому +1

    Every time you guys have a lot to do, these are good times :) very happy to see another crazy wr so soon

  • @bbdoescubing2141
    @bbdoescubing2141 3 місяці тому +5

    its crazy to see that this could have been sub 7. if the crafting at the beggining was a little bit smoother and if the fumble to find the ignition for the last nether portal wasn't there it could have been a sub 7 run! its exciting to see that there is potential for faster runs even in an unfathomably fast speedrun.

  • @TrolloMC01
    @TrolloMC01 3 місяці тому +3

    No way I just joined the premiere and it's starting right now how cool is that

  • @itzlapis_
    @itzlapis_ 3 місяці тому +1

    being a part of the community during this whole thing has been awesome, for past world records they would always come whenever i take a break from speedrunning and would only find ouy months later

  • @reguit5849
    @reguit5849 3 місяці тому +5

    Can't wait for drip to beat it again tomorrow

  • @0990user
    @0990user 3 місяці тому +6

    amazing run. best world record ive seen

  • @_amaya.
    @_amaya. 3 місяці тому +1

    Congrats to drip for their WR!! Super impressive

  • @scuffed_carrot
    @scuffed_carrot 3 місяці тому +8

    Drip deserves to get on the leaderboard.

  • @gameknowledgeandit8934
    @gameknowledgeandit8934 3 місяці тому +2

    the best course of action is to allow that mod since its open source and be verified

  • @mobilemayham6642
    @mobilemayham6642 19 днів тому

    Great vid man. I don’t even speed run but that's bs there at the end. It should totally count

  • @spacedominator7163
    @spacedominator7163 3 місяці тому +7

    I dont care tbh in my books he's the world record holder

    • @lovin_it.
      @lovin_it. 21 день тому

      Yeah, this should be the wr

  • @Gamecoolnez
    @Gamecoolnez 3 місяці тому +2

    I can always count on the weeky thing for making my day better

  • @smsfrancis
    @smsfrancis 2 місяці тому

    Thank you for explaining all this. I had no idea how he did it 😅

  • @anastasiadudette706
    @anastasiadudette706 3 місяці тому +5

    Speaking of world records. I know this run is a year old, but could you guys do a video on Feinbergs 2:45:05 all advancements speedrun. All advancements isn't as popular but the speedrunners there should also get some praise for doing such grueling runs.

    • @zhewaxen3047
      @zhewaxen3047 3 місяці тому +2

      2:45 isn't the world record anymore. Feinberg has a 2:27 now

    • @KingOzymandias_
      @KingOzymandias_ 3 місяці тому

      @@zhewaxen3047 WHAT?!

  • @westylegend651
    @westylegend651 3 місяці тому +1

    This was an awesome run I hope it get accepted

  • @PostIsAQT
    @PostIsAQT 3 місяці тому +2

    When drip gets a seed even better and gets a sub 7 just to spite them itll be the beat

  • @newtflavouredpopcorn9408
    @newtflavouredpopcorn9408 3 місяці тому +2

    as long as he doesnt hire a harvard professor to say the mod is harmless, i say let him keep the WR

  • @add1ct683
    @add1ct683 3 місяці тому +7

    I swear is doogile manages to get a 7:07 I'll cry 😭

  • @youtubeSuckssNow
    @youtubeSuckssNow 3 місяці тому +6

    Absolutely ludicrous run.
    Regarding the controversy, it is a mod to help an approved mod everyone uses not crash the game on lower end pc's, that they allow mods for to make speed running more accessible. I understand why they are so strict and honestly I'm here for it, but it's so backwards to not just see the reason its being used and go "hey other mods we should allow this mod because it aligns with our other rules"
    From everything ive seen, i dont know why it wont end up verified. But there's no telling.
    Well deserved record either way.

  • @loganlayne5580
    @loganlayne5580 3 місяці тому +4

    The rule should be changed to (something like) if you get a record or PB that you want verified and you’re using a mod that wasn’t specifically allowed then the run and mod are reviewed for verification and the mod becomes specifically legal if it’s not effecting the game/loot at all

  • @magdazapalka
    @magdazapalka 3 місяці тому +3

    they should approve the mod and all runs that use it. all it does is prevent the game from crashing

  • @IDWpresents
    @IDWpresents 3 місяці тому +9

    I think it's okay for the run not to be "Officially verified." Nobody needs a bunch of Rules, moderators, or lawyers to make their accomplishments significant. Drip's record will always be incredible regardless of whether the bureaucrats insist on following their rules.

  • @detroityeet7048
    @detroityeet7048 3 місяці тому +9

    I've never really touched Minecraft, but I have speedran Celeste (29:57 any%), Portal (17:01 INSLA), and Karlson (3:08 any%). I've also dabbled in Neon White, but haven't done many full-game runs. I think it's against the spirit of fairness for the Minecraft moderators to not verify a run just because the runner used a harmless quality of life mod. They know the mod can't be used to cheat, so there's no reason to reject runs for using it.

    • @kittenish7116
      @kittenish7116 3 місяці тому +6

      damn sub 30 any% is crazy congrats!

    • @nothingherezero7182
      @nothingherezero7182 3 місяці тому

      They have to be fair they rejected others runs for the same reason

    • @detroityeet7048
      @detroityeet7048 3 місяці тому

      @@nothingherezero7182 They should go back and un-reject them

    • @detroityeet7048
      @detroityeet7048 3 місяці тому

      @@kittenish7116 Yeah, it was tough. I think it's my proudest achievement so far.

  • @ThunderChanter
    @ThunderChanter 3 місяці тому +2

    I think the best solution is what's happening right now. To make a quick change to allow a run, a change that would impact any number of past runs that were labeled unverifiable, could be seen as favoritism by the mod team. The optics of that alone, no matter how untrue, arent good. BUT, I'd call the mod team wrong if they didnt listen to the community feedback and start polling to see if a rule change needs to be made. After all, the mods and rules are their to help keep things fair and better the community, so if the community has a good reason for calling for change, then serious thoughts need to be given to making change happen

  • @user-uw7uw3fh6f
    @user-uw7uw3fh6f 3 місяці тому +1

    drip has the world record (ALSO CAN WE TALK ABOUT HOW PERFECTLY TIMED THE BEAT DROP IS AT 14:35 WTF)

  • @evank3718
    @evank3718 3 місяці тому +2

    At this rate world records might just be The Weekly thing

  • @makkiramsemiz704
    @makkiramsemiz704 3 місяці тому +27

    Whats insane is the mod team have not allowed this mod that prevents crashes, didn't they say they will allow mods that improve performance so that everyone can play?

    • @tildejustin
      @tildejustin 3 місяці тому +14

      the crash fix mod was never submitted to be legalized, nor was it intended to be legalized when it was created, so it's not like the mod was rejected...

    • @makkiramsemiz704
      @makkiramsemiz704 3 місяці тому +9

      @@tildejustin but its widely known cause they have rejected past runs with this mod in it, it should have been automatically allowed as a QoL mod the first time it was detected.

    • @DueySR
      @DueySR 3 місяці тому +10

      ​@@makkiramsemiz704 Previous world records in other categories had used other disallowed mods, not the same mod. The mod team was unaware of the existence of the mod Drip used.

    • @makkiramsemiz704
      @makkiramsemiz704 3 місяці тому

      @@DueySR Its said in the video that the mod was known already and it would be unfair for the players that had the mod and got rejected so they also rejected this run.

    • @DueySR
      @DueySR 3 місяці тому +7

      @@makkiramsemiz704 The video doesn't say that. What I think you're referring to is the moderator statement which says that "several other world record runs (in other categories) have been unverifiable (aka rejected) for the same reason (using an unallowed mod to prevent crashes)." The unallowed mods that got other runs rejected were different mods. The mod that Drip used (called New Horizons) is a new mod, used by very few players, that the moderators did not know about. Drip's speedrun is the first known run to use the unallowed mod in question. Furthermore, had the moderators been aware of the mod, they would not have allowed it (like you say they should've for QoL reasons) but rather updated WorldPreview to implement the fix instead, as they try to keep the number of allowed mods as low as possible and not add extra unnecessary ones.

  • @jaredharmer7047
    @jaredharmer7047 3 місяці тому +1

    Unfortunately this kinda situation happens in athletic sports too, when an athlete takes a protein powder that contains a negligible (but testable) amount of a banned substance

  • @auroraseppel6204
    @auroraseppel6204 3 місяці тому +1

    To make these videos more immersive, they should start becoming speedruns to match the times of the runs

    • @DispatchCenter
      @DispatchCenter 3 місяці тому +2

      i don’t know if you have seen the channel tomatoanus but his videos are exactly like that! in depth explanation of the strata and tricks in a speedrun, voiceovered in real time to match the length of the run.

  • @SivaExperiment
    @SivaExperiment 3 місяці тому +2

    Mods showed install the mod and check it to make sure that there’s no extra code to affect gameplay. If it truly is just a stability mod like it claimed then it should have no problems passing a test.

    • @Comomelo
      @Comomelo 3 місяці тому

      Its an open source mod, everyone can look into the code and see that it doesnt do anything else. The only reason the mods arent doing it is to "set an example".

  • @Magnus_Carlsen.
    @Magnus_Carlsen. 3 місяці тому

    the time stamp on this video covers the word "analysis" in a funny way

  • @novanomi3362
    @novanomi3362 3 місяці тому +75

    The reason that they are denying this run is entirely, that the mod team didnt verify new mods quickly enough. They literally failed at their job and are using that as the reason to not verify a new world record.

    • @mollyyxy
      @mollyyxy 3 місяці тому +7

      The mod team was not aware of the existence of the New Horizons mod. There's not one person to blame for this, the goal going forward is more communication between runners, mods and mod developers.

    • @Redddragon
      @Redddragon 3 місяці тому +6

      Only 6 people had downloaded this mod before the WR

  • @khayamm.1929
    @khayamm.1929 2 місяці тому +2

    It doesn’t really matter if his time isn’t added to the leaderboards, everyone will try and beat this time

    • @yodaas7902
      @yodaas7902 Місяць тому

      The run IS on the leaderboards

  • @tchimbawa6942
    @tchimbawa6942 3 місяці тому

    Beautiful video I loved it thanks you !

  • @Al-hb6uj
    @Al-hb6uj 3 місяці тому +15

    Also the buried treasure is 9 9 not 4 4

  • @simplysaphi
    @simplysaphi 3 місяці тому

    never expected DSP soundtrack to be played here :P

  • @DanskCrypto1
    @DanskCrypto1 2 місяці тому

    Bro became uncrowded king

  • @suni420
    @suni420 3 місяці тому +3

    another instance of mods acting important and rejecting a run just because

  • @skipperbut
    @skipperbut 3 місяці тому

    As much as I'd love to see a summoning Salt video on minecraft one day. I won't be surprised if he never did one due to the "community"/moderators or runners making it so damn complicated to keep up with the official records. So many cheated whether it's the player cheating or being cheated, lots of inconsistency on what to play with as an what mods to use, and - ->personally< - - the "speed runs" are already weird due to the timer being paused in certain moments of the run, and ofc the inconsistencies of who can run minecraft better and who struggles in certain parts/loading screens.

  • @indigo_onion
    @indigo_onion 3 місяці тому +2

    it needs to be on the leaderboard

  • @slaughternymph
    @slaughternymph 3 місяці тому

    it reminds me of brentilda's run. i still cannot forget it. among all those lack of resources, he did that then.

  • @mewantbacon4201
    @mewantbacon4201 3 місяці тому

    seems a the best way to handle this is check the mod is fine to use by the mods then to retroactivily allow all runs using it. As if it is needed to stop crashes from a mod needed for WR runs, then the mods can't expect people not to use it to actually be able to play. Or to verify a different mod that solves the same issue. Either way this is the WR for multiple things and should least be shown at the top with an astrix as mod did confirm was harmless.

  • @SobaCha
    @SobaCha 3 місяці тому

    It’s sometimes amazing the amount of power it takes to go to peoples heads.

  • @salthal
    @salthal 3 місяці тому +1

    i hope they can reconsider

  • @ceso_5228
    @ceso_5228 3 місяці тому +9

    a buried treasure doesnt generate at the 4 4 coordinates of the chunk its in it generates at the 9 9 coordinates

    • @-BPC
      @-BPC 3 місяці тому

      no way

  • @minecafe
    @minecafe 3 місяці тому

    That's heartbreaking, but understandable.

  • @petersmythe6462
    @petersmythe6462 3 місяці тому

    Wow. That's probably the fastest end enter. I've seen people get to the stronghold by dumb luck about 4 minutes into a manhunt by accidentally B-lining it with dolphin's grace, but actually getting there ready to enter is amazing.

  • @sillyrun
    @sillyrun 3 місяці тому +1

    5:15 4 4 bt lets goooo

  • @lukebytes5366
    @lukebytes5366 3 місяці тому +1

    There's setting an example and then there's being stubborn. The team should've given a warning and nothing more.

  • @infinitemovers6344
    @infinitemovers6344 3 місяці тому +1

    I can just imagine how heartbreaking it is to feel proud of yourself for beating the world record only to not be accepted because of that mod that clearly not used for cheating😢

  • @alessio6880
    @alessio6880 3 місяці тому +2

    It should be verified. Denying a wr because of an harmless mod sounds so elitist, especially knowning that mod was used to prevent crashes. What was he supposed to do? Not everyone can buy powerful computers to speedrun. Denying the run for this ridicolous reason makes the minecraft community look elitist. I hope they will change their minds, the run is absolute legit.

  • @BAccurate
    @BAccurate Місяць тому +1

    Well Drip is pretty deserved for this speedrun to be accepted officially, as he didn't use a mod that can side by side affect the overall gameplay, this was nothing except a performance booster mod which isn't supposedly be included in the list of cheat contributers. The moderators should be reconsidering this matter.

    • @yodaas7902
      @yodaas7902 Місяць тому +1

      It's on the leaderboards already

  • @stardustandflames126
    @stardustandflames126 3 місяці тому

    Nice music choice

  • @BluePi3142
    @BluePi3142 3 місяці тому

    Slight video error, you mentioned that BT always spawns at 4 4 when I believe you meant 9 9. Also good to mention that he just saw the weirdly shaped gravel at the oceanside

  • @TiloDroid
    @TiloDroid 3 місяці тому +3

    if the mod is harmless, it should be allowed

  • @forlogs
    @forlogs 3 місяці тому +1

    "A zero cycle, one of the two ways speedrunners can kill the dragon nowadays."
    Me:
    Zero cycle
    One cycle
    Classic endfight
    Ground zero
    One shot
    Void cycle
    Minecraft beats itself
    End crystal explosions
    Gigachad tnt minecart setup
    Early warped vine one cycle
    Diagonal perch
    Half bow
    Fruitberries bridge zero
    Bit flip makes dragons health zero
    Illegal end crystal glitch
    Crookst

  • @delayseries9173
    @delayseries9173 2 місяці тому

    2:13 killed me with the vape pods

  • @davidheffernan3829
    @davidheffernan3829 3 місяці тому +1

    BT generates at 9/9. It's the starter staircase that is 4/4.

  • @tttITA10
    @tttITA10 3 місяці тому

    World preview and the wall were not a thing when I was last into watching minecraft speedruns, but while the wall seems okay (with enough knoledge on technology, you can make one of those with only vanilla resources), the whole world preview thing feels illegal, as it fundamentaly saves 1 second, or fractions there of, of scanning the area compared to vanilla, which, at some point, will be enough to make or brake an world record in such an optimized game.

  • @WolfGaming-lo1ze
    @WolfGaming-lo1ze 3 місяці тому +10

    In my opinion:
    Drip should have made sure that mod was allowed before hand buut
    I don't see an issue with any mod that does not alter your chances of getting a WR with cheating etc
    Due to the mod only helping prevent crashes it's not cheating to me and I think it would be a better idea to re-veeify all runs that use mods that don't actually alter performance of the player and only improve performance of the game on computers

    • @joel784
      @joel784 3 місяці тому +1

      I mean drip didnt even intend a WR Speedrun and also probably assumed they will accept the mod since it literally just helps people not die of rage

    • @WolfGaming-lo1ze
      @WolfGaming-lo1ze 3 місяці тому

      Which yeah I do fully recognize those points entirely. However of course I still don't agree with the that run and others in the past being taken down by a mod that does not actually allow you to cheat, but I understand the decisions and reason just don't agree with them

  • @n0_ne907
    @n0_ne907 3 місяці тому

    I think I saw in another video analyzing drip's run the reason the mod was not whitelisted was it was only downloaded by 6 people and the mods just didn't think of it. which makes sense

    • @oliviahyerobrine
      @oliviahyerobrine 14 днів тому

      makes no sense as whitelisting it would be the first thought anyone would have thought to do as they’ve made those exceptions in the past

  • @BobsTheBuild3r
    @BobsTheBuild3r 3 місяці тому +2

    The mods are like “sorry man, if you paid more for your PC this wouldn’t be a problem” 😂💀 that’s a fair run, if the mods arnt experienced enough to audit the mods code, then they should hire someone who is….

  • @vladspellbinder
    @vladspellbinder 3 місяці тому

    As long as the mod in question can be verified as ONLY helping prevent crashes then it should be allowed and all runs that have used it in the past should go on the leaderboard.
    I understand the caution, as many people are not honest, but we should not punish honest people for fear they may be dishonest. Trust but verify.
    Thanks for the video.

  • @Lachlan_McDougall
    @Lachlan_McDougall День тому +1

    It was approved January 10th guys

  • @VaricYT
    @VaricYT 12 днів тому

    the best solution to fix this, amend the horizon mod as part of "performance enhancements".

  • @TheRysiu120
    @TheRysiu120 3 місяці тому

    We cant skip!

  • @generositygamer7971
    @generositygamer7971 2 місяці тому

    All mods that only improve system performance should be allowed. But, there should be a separate category for pure vanilla.

  • @blizzard8958
    @blizzard8958 3 місяці тому

    “Gets through more vapes pods in a day than nether exits”💀