I can't thank you enough for posting this information. We bought our '22 F-350 Lariat DRW last summer. "Right Turn Signal Fault" appeared immediately while pulling our '17 Airstream. The Ford dealer said it was in the trailer. The Airstream was totaled by a hail storm and replaced with a '21 GD Momentum 397TH. Same problem and same story from Ford. (different dealer this time.) After a false start wiring the resistor to the green wire (they say that's the standard pinout for 7pin connectors), it worked a charm connected to the brown wire. I've been dealing with this from Indiana to California to Arizona to Florida, back to Arizona and now to Montana. It will be nice not to have that thing nattering at me every time I hit the brakes. Thanks again.
Funny how they love tonpoint to the trailer instantly. And yes it was so very annoying with the adaptive cruise. Glad it helped out. Thank you for watching.
Thank you so much for sharing this. I have had this issue in left side since 2016 and has always driven me nuts because the lights actually work fine. Will give this a try.
Here’s one for you. When hooked up to fifth wheel I get a “trailer lighting module fault” on the dash. No left signal, no brake light. Something that happened suddenly and Ford says there’s no service notice.
I cant even begin to tell you how many different dealerships we went to before one listened. They all say "well we put a similator on it and it worked fine. It has to be your trailer." Well i am sure you are aware it is not your trailer but rather the Trailer control module. Have them check for communication failure codes.
Thanks for the videos I’m due to pick up our new F350 SRW diesel etc etc late next week or week after. I’ve driven nothing but Fords all my life and but now I’m not impressed with ford build quality or how the company treats its customers. This will be my last one I buy and I probably have at least 2 more to buy before I’m done. Thanks again Safe travels and happy RVing
I think its like everything else.... you find some good ones and some not so good ones, both vehicles and dealerships. For the most part we are happy with the truck, it has just a few hiccups. Thank you for watching.
This is a very common problem since the 2017 SuperDuty redesign. TONS of discussion on forums for years. Why are dealers still giving people the run around? Easiest fix is to use this: CURT 57003 LED-Compatible 7-Way RV Blade Vehicle-Side Trailer Wiring Adapter. It adds required resistance for trailers using LED lights. No modification to your trailer required. Useful if you tow multiple trailers. Hope this helps others.
Thank you for the info, I had not realized that this had been a problem in the past. I was a little surprised because the 21 we had never had an issue. Regardless the recall flash did cure this issue. Thank you for watching.
Glad to know it is the truck. Mine is doing this but i didnt know if it was truck or trailer issue because i bought the truck and trailer new and never pulled anything else with the truck to be able to know if it did it with a different trailer
I had a 2018 F150 and I would sometimes get a fault on my left signal light. It was annoying, especially when I first noticed it, but I was relieved that the turn signal was actually working ok. I no longer have the vehicle, but I'm guessing that one of those CURT adapters mentioned below may have corrected the problem. Thank you for the video.
Problem - identified Solution - identified Cause - still not known! There could be a million & one things that could have contributed to the fault but unless you have the logic flow diagram from Ford Engineering, it would be next to impossible to identify the cause. Maybe there were discussions on a forum but someone had to firgue it out first.
This is happening to me with my '23 Superduty. Turn Signal Faults, Trailer Disconnected Faults, and the like. Took it to the dealer and they couldn't find anything "wrong" with the 7 pin connection.
Correct because they only run a brake simulator on it. We ended up going to probably a dozen different dealers before one actually cared enough to dive deep into it. There is something wrong with the tcm programming and it drops communication randomly. There is a soft code that needs to be cleared . This is what they told me. And since we got the truck back we haven’t had any issue with it since. I hope I didn’t just jinx myself, lol. Also there is a TSB for the trailer module out now. Hope this helps.
Did trailer wiring change? I thought that BROWN was for running lights. The dim side of the bulb. The GREEN / YELLOW wires are the left and right stop & turn lights. The bright side of the bulb.
It was Bellingham Ford. They were very awesome and took the time to listen to our complaints as well as trouble shot it with us and asked a ton of questions. Highly recommend them.
I have the same problem with my 2018 F-250, with and without the trailer hooked up. So now what’s wrong? It’s got be something in the truck if there trailer attached and it’s doing it all the time. Also the “trailer connect/disconnect fault keeping coming on when there is no trailer attached. Ugh!
With or without a trailer...that obviously is a truck issue, but i would start with your wiring. Mainly by the plug/ check the harness where it plugs into said plug. Check for any type of corrosion and securement. It might not have a tight connection and causing a voltage drop and or loss of signal. I would also apply some dielectric grease it will definitely help both of these issues. If that doesnt work i would have a dealer look at your TCM programming and make sure it didnt drop a pid or something. I know clear as mud...lol. i would check connections first.
I have 2020 f250. Have u guys ever had problem of your third break light cam stop working when the tail gate is down but when your tail gate is up it works just fine
Hi, My 2023 F250 has a really annoying feature while pulling a travel trailer. I get alert tones for driving onto a ramp or approaching a highway overpass as having "restricted height". These overpasses are high enough for a Tractor Trailer and then some The visual alert on the Nav Map is ok but the constant tones are really annoying. Any way to shut the tones off?
Oh wow, that would drive me nuts!! So yes there us a way to shut off the tones and annoying tones. There is an obd2 plug adapter called Fordscan. You can find it here. amzn.to/3IUBGfp. Then you down load a program on your PC to interface with. Its pretty simple.
Nice video, question... I'm curius how you set up your gain and low medium or heavy ? What is the weight of your Solitude ? Me I set mine at heavy and gain 8 for 16 000 pounds. Try to find out if it's ok.
Never had the issue on the 21 f350 we had, showed up the first time towing with 22. First dealer said it was trl issue so i re wired and same thing. Tried a fellow campers plug, same thing. So its definitely a truck/programing issue. Thanks for watching.
Good fix, Those are High Power Resistors which will throw off some heat depending on the load (wattage). Did you calculate the wattage your Appling to the Load. Add some thermal grease and attach it to the metal, insuring good contact with the metal. you should be good. Nice find.
Thank you, as of right now I have not, I am in the "testing" mode of it right now. I appreciate the Input and will definitely look into the grease, if the Magnets fail. Yes those do give off heat, that was another reason I was happy to space off the bottom. I will update here after a few months of use and let you know what I found. Thank you again for watching.
I had a recall on my trailer brake controller as it would not engage the trailer brakes. Its recall notice (#FSA 22S17 Reprogram Integrated Trailer Relay Module).
@@HappyTailsRVing I will be trying it out this week and I'll get back to you. I am surprised you didn't get the Recall Notice yet. I had two recalls and found out from my Ford Pass App before I even received the paper version. The second was to add a couple of rivets to the insulation over the drive shaft. My truck is a Ford Super Duty F350 SRT born in November 2021.
We have an appt this week, for the flash. It is hard to get an appointment due to the travel. So we have been waiting a while now to get it fixed. But yes please let us know if you notice a difference. Thank you again for watching.
@@HappyTailsRVing So I tried the brake controller fix from ford's recall and yes the trailer brake is now working. My issue now is I could not feel the difference on the controller settings when I either decreased or increased the controller number or strength. I will keep investigating this as maybe my brakes might be worn from travels. I'll keep in touch. I'm also getting a trailer disconnect also. Comes and goes but it is frequent. Thanks
@@paulparadis916 well that is a little disheartening, being as my truck is at the dealership right now getting that done, I pick it up in the morning. I have heard several complain about the disconnect warning. Well i will still hook it up and see if the other fault disappeared. Thank you for letting us all know how your experience was with this latest recall.
well the resistor worked great up until the flash. I am going to be honest, I dont think this flash is working the way Ford Engineers thought it would. I have heard several people say they still get a connect/disconnect message constantly, a we actually have an issue with our trailer brakes now!! And thats what the recall was suppose to fix...
@@HappyTailsRVing I know they told me the first time it wasn't getting power to the brakes. So they put on a new bumper, it didn't fix it. Before it didn't have a fault code. Now it says I have a turn signal out, which is wrong, bc they all work. Not sure what's going on. At times t will power up the brakes, but 90% of the time they don't. It's intermittent
I had a similar notification, but it was for the left light on a 2022 F350 DRW. However, my lights stopped working entirely. Do you think it would be the same issue? (Currently parked outside a ford dealer in the middle of Georgia, trying to get to NY...). I gotta say, lights failing before the first oil change on a $77k vehicle has me wondering whether I made the right decision.
Absolutely, all my lights worked just fine but kept getting faults saying they were not. Once we took it in to get flashed it fixed that problem. I would recommend getting the flash done. I totally understand the frustration.
My 2021 F-350 also does this, and its always a fault for the right-side like yours. It has been driving me nuts trying to troubleshoot it. I was almost ready to replace my 7-pin trailer plug thinking it was a bad connection at that pin. Just to clarify how you wired this: you are adding the + of the resistor to the brown terminal, and adding the - of the resistor to the ground terminal, but keeping all the existing bus bar connections as they are? So basically the resistor is a jumper from the brown to the ground?
Exactly. Yes it was only the right turn/brake that would throw the fault. And yes its enough to drive a man to drink..I am still two weeks out from my appt to get the module reflashed. But for now this has worked. We traveled from Florida to Texas after the install and it has worked flawlessly. Dont replace the 7way. It doesnt help. I went down that road too. I hope this helps. Thank you for watching.
Lol i can only say...i wish!! No when ya first fill up it takes the last recorded mpg b4 fill up. It drops down to a more reasonable level after about 10 miles.
The fix for us was a new TCM (Trailer control module) along with a flash. That was done about 8 months ago and we have not had it reoccur. You can also install a LED resistor inline. We did that initially until we could get into a shop, due to fulltime rving.
We are not sure if this is part of that same recall or not, this truck is part of that recall so we will see if it is when it goes in, in three weeks. I will post a video letting you all know if or if not it was. Thank you for watching.
Yes, that is the current recall that is updated in the discription. We are not sure if the brake controller recall is part of the turn fault or not but we are scheduled for a few weeks so we will do an update. Thank you for watching.
I wonder if it is related to the brake control recall through Ford right now. I have a 2022 F350 as well, and I just got the recall notice through my Ford app. Sometimes, my dump trailers will not even show up as being connected to the truck, even though the harness is plugged in.
Yes i have spoken to some that have that same problem. I will update in two weeks after it gets that reflash done for the trailer module. Thank you for watching.
Thanks for sharing! Always good to see easy workarounds for annoying problems. Even though your reported symptoms are different, I wonder if the recently announced recall for the 21-22 superduty integrated trailer control module software will also fix this problem 'behind the scenes'? Here's a link to a video and documentation that better describes that recall: ua-cam.com/video/Qh5NhJPdnn0/v-deo.html Cheers!
I can't thank you enough for posting this information. We bought our '22 F-350 Lariat DRW last summer. "Right Turn Signal Fault" appeared immediately while pulling our '17 Airstream. The Ford dealer said it was in the trailer. The Airstream was totaled by a hail storm and replaced with a '21 GD Momentum 397TH. Same problem and same story from Ford. (different dealer this time.) After a false start wiring the resistor to the green wire (they say that's the standard pinout for 7pin connectors), it worked a charm connected to the brown wire. I've been dealing with this from Indiana to California to Arizona to Florida, back to Arizona and now to Montana. It will be nice not to have that thing nattering at me every time I hit the brakes. Thanks again.
Funny how they love tonpoint to the trailer instantly. And yes it was so very annoying with the adaptive cruise. Glad it helped out. Thank you for watching.
Thank you so much for sharing this. I have had this issue in left side since 2016 and has always driven me nuts because the lights actually work fine. Will give this a try.
It was a very in expensive fix that worked for us.
Here’s one for you. When hooked up to fifth wheel I get a “trailer lighting module fault” on the dash. No left signal, no brake light. Something that happened suddenly and Ford says there’s no service notice.
I cant even begin to tell you how many different dealerships we went to before one listened. They all say "well we put a similator on it and it worked fine. It has to be your trailer." Well i am sure you are aware it is not your trailer but rather the Trailer control module. Have them check for communication failure codes.
Thanks for the videos
I’m due to pick up our new F350 SRW diesel etc etc late next week or week after. I’ve driven nothing but Fords all my life and but now I’m not impressed with ford build quality or how the company treats its customers. This will be my last one I buy and I probably have at least 2 more to buy before I’m done.
Thanks again
Safe travels and happy RVing
I think its like everything else.... you find some good ones and some not so good ones, both vehicles and dealerships. For the most part we are happy with the truck, it has just a few hiccups. Thank you for watching.
This is a very common problem since the 2017 SuperDuty redesign. TONS of discussion on forums for years. Why are dealers still giving people the run around? Easiest fix is to use this: CURT 57003 LED-Compatible 7-Way RV Blade Vehicle-Side Trailer Wiring Adapter. It adds required resistance for trailers using LED lights. No modification to your trailer required. Useful if you tow multiple trailers. Hope this helps others.
Thank you for the info, I had not realized that this had been a problem in the past. I was a little surprised because the 21 we had never had an issue. Regardless the recall flash did cure this issue. Thank you for watching.
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Amazon says this is not compatible with 2018 ford?
2022 f350, all the lights work on the trailer but says trailer disconnected and I have no brakes. Will this adapter cure that?
@@rhoadesfarms3900did you try it and did it end up working? Amazon says the same thing for my 22 F350
Glad to know it is the truck. Mine is doing this but i didnt know if it was truck or trailer issue because i bought the truck and trailer new and never pulled anything else with the truck to be able to know if it did it with a different trailer
Just my guess but i also have a feeling there will be a fix for this fix as well.
I had a 2018 F150 and I would sometimes get a fault on my left signal light. It was annoying, especially when I first noticed it, but I was relieved that the turn signal was actually working ok. I no longer have the vehicle, but I'm guessing that one of those CURT adapters mentioned below may have corrected the problem. Thank you for the video.
Thank you for Watching
Problem - identified
Solution - identified
Cause - still not known!
There could be a million & one things that could have contributed to the fault but unless you have the logic flow diagram from Ford Engineering, it would be next to impossible to identify the cause. Maybe there were discussions on a forum but someone had to firgue it out first.
This is happening to me with my '23 Superduty. Turn Signal Faults, Trailer Disconnected Faults, and the like. Took it to the dealer and they couldn't find anything "wrong" with the 7 pin connection.
Correct because they only run a brake simulator on it. We ended up going to probably a dozen different dealers before one actually cared enough to dive deep into it. There is something wrong with the tcm programming and it drops communication randomly. There is a soft code that needs to be cleared . This is what they told me. And since we got the truck back we haven’t had any issue with it since. I hope I didn’t just jinx myself, lol. Also there is a TSB for the trailer module out now. Hope this helps.
Did trailer wiring change? I thought that BROWN was for running lights. The dim side of the bulb. The GREEN / YELLOW wires are the left and right stop & turn lights. The bright side of the bulb.
Not on 7 pin. I believe you are referring to 4 pin. Which are different color codes.
Thanks. Just picked up my 2022 F350 last week. Hope the did the fix before I picked it up!
Let us know. I too am kind of curious.
Hi, I have a 2019 F-350 with a trailer brake issue, who was the dealer up north who helped you fix? I’m in everett
Thanks!
It was Bellingham Ford. They were very awesome and took the time to listen to our complaints as well as trouble shot it with us and asked a ton of questions. Highly recommend them.
I have the same problem with my 2018 F-250, with and without the trailer hooked up. So now what’s wrong? It’s got be something in the truck if there trailer attached and it’s doing it all the time. Also the “trailer connect/disconnect fault keeping coming on when there is no trailer attached. Ugh!
With or without a trailer...that obviously is a truck issue, but i would start with your wiring. Mainly by the plug/ check the harness where it plugs into said plug. Check for any type of corrosion and securement. It might not have a tight connection and causing a voltage drop and or loss of signal. I would also apply some dielectric grease it will definitely help both of these issues. If that doesnt work i would have a dealer look at your TCM programming and make sure it didnt drop a pid or something. I know clear as mud...lol. i would check connections first.
I have 2020 f250. Have u guys ever had problem of your third break light cam stop working when the tail gate is down but when your tail gate is up it works just fine
I have not noticed that but I can go see. I dont recall that being an issue but then again I have not looked.
I have a 2023 F350 that is doing the same thing
Hi, My 2023 F250 has a really annoying feature while pulling a travel trailer. I get alert tones for driving onto a ramp or approaching a highway overpass as having "restricted height". These overpasses are high enough for a Tractor Trailer and then some The visual alert on the Nav Map is ok but the constant tones are really annoying. Any way to shut the tones off?
Oh wow, that would drive me nuts!! So yes there us a way to shut off the tones and annoying tones. There is an obd2 plug adapter called Fordscan. You can find it here. amzn.to/3IUBGfp. Then you down load a program on your PC to interface with. Its pretty simple.
Just got a recall notice on 2022 f 350. Taking it in next week
Yes there are a couple out there. Hopefully it will fix the problem. Thanks for watching
Nice video, question... I'm curius how you set up your gain and low medium or heavy ? What is the weight of your Solitude ? Me I set mine at heavy and gain 8 for 16 000 pounds. Try to find out if it's ok.
Unfortunately we no longer have that 5th wheel but i seem to recall we were at 8.5. I know we run 9 now with our Beacon.
@@HappyTailsRVing Ok thanks for reply, do you run at heavy medium or low ? what is the weight of your Beacon with your stuff in ?
What lighting does your truck have - Halogen or LED?
Factory led
Is this a camper issue? Why only the right side? Seems like both sides of the wiring would need this. Thanks for sharing.
Never had the issue on the 21 f350 we had, showed up the first time towing with 22. First dealer said it was trl issue so i re wired and same thing. Tried a fellow campers plug, same thing. So its definitely a truck/programing issue. Thanks for watching.
@@HappyTailsRVing Is this directly connected to the brake controller computer reflash recall?
Yes it is
Good fix, Those are High Power Resistors which will throw off some heat depending on the load (wattage). Did you calculate the wattage your Appling to the Load. Add some thermal grease and attach it to the metal, insuring good contact with the metal. you should be good. Nice find.
Thank you, as of right now I have not, I am in the "testing" mode of it right now. I appreciate the Input and will definitely look into the grease, if the Magnets fail. Yes those do give off heat, that was another reason I was happy to space off the bottom. I will update here after a few months of use and let you know what I found. Thank you again for watching.
I had a recall on my trailer brake controller as it would not engage the trailer brakes. Its recall notice (#FSA 22S17 Reprogram Integrated Trailer Relay Module).
Have you towed after the flash??di you notice a difference?
@@HappyTailsRVing I will be trying it out this week and I'll get back to you. I am surprised you didn't get the Recall Notice yet. I had two recalls and found out from my Ford Pass App before I even received the paper version. The second was to add a couple of rivets to the insulation over the drive shaft. My truck is a Ford Super Duty F350 SRT born in November 2021.
We have an appt this week, for the flash. It is hard to get an appointment due to the travel. So we have been waiting a while now to get it fixed. But yes please let us know if you notice a difference. Thank you again for watching.
@@HappyTailsRVing So I tried the brake controller fix from ford's recall and yes the trailer brake is now working. My issue now is I could not feel the difference on the controller settings when I either decreased or increased the controller number or strength. I will keep investigating this as maybe my brakes might be worn from travels. I'll keep in touch. I'm also getting a trailer disconnect also. Comes and goes but it is frequent. Thanks
@@paulparadis916 well that is a little disheartening, being as my truck is at the dealership right now getting that done, I pick it up in the morning. I have heard several complain about the disconnect warning. Well i will still hook it up and see if the other fault disappeared. Thank you for letting us all know how your experience was with this latest recall.
Having issues with mine. Just picked it up for the 2nd time and still doing it.
well the resistor worked great up until the flash. I am going to be honest, I dont think this flash is working the way Ford Engineers thought it would. I have heard several people say they still get a connect/disconnect message constantly, a we actually have an issue with our trailer brakes now!! And thats what the recall was suppose to fix...
@@HappyTailsRVing I know they told me the first time it wasn't getting power to the brakes. So they put on a new bumper, it didn't fix it. Before it didn't have a fault code. Now it says I have a turn signal out, which is wrong, bc they all work. Not sure what's going on. At times t will power up the brakes, but 90% of the time they don't. It's intermittent
That is exactly the problem we are having now. They just replace our TCM today, we will see if it works or not as tomorrow is a travel day for us.
I had a similar notification, but it was for the left light on a 2022 F350 DRW. However, my lights stopped working entirely. Do you think it would be the same issue? (Currently parked outside a ford dealer in the middle of Georgia, trying to get to NY...). I gotta say, lights failing before the first oil change on a $77k vehicle has me wondering whether I made the right decision.
Absolutely, all my lights worked just fine but kept getting faults saying they were not. Once we took it in to get flashed it fixed that problem. I would recommend getting the flash done. I totally understand the frustration.
My 2021 F-350 also does this, and its always a fault for the right-side like yours. It has been driving me nuts trying to troubleshoot it. I was almost ready to replace my 7-pin trailer plug thinking it was a bad connection at that pin. Just to clarify how you wired this: you are adding the + of the resistor to the brown terminal, and adding the - of the resistor to the ground terminal, but keeping all the existing bus bar connections as they are? So basically the resistor is a jumper from the brown to the ground?
Exactly. Yes it was only the right turn/brake that would throw the fault. And yes its enough to drive a man to drink..I am still two weeks out from my appt to get the module reflashed. But for now this has worked. We traveled from Florida to Texas after the install and it has worked flawlessly. Dont replace the 7way. It doesnt help. I went down that road too. I hope this helps. Thank you for watching.
@@HappyTailsRVing thank you for this info, you are a genius! Subbed!
@@21psd lol Thank you and no problem.
I have the same issue on my F550 2020
That is weird. Our 2021 didn't have that problem. Luck of the draw, I guess
Did you just wire the resistor in line for the hot side?
Yes, i have since pulled it, due to the fact that the flash fixed that issue.
@@HappyTailsRVing What flash if I may ask.
ua-cam.com/video/Fp3_e8JdYJI/v-deo.html has the video with the recall flash TSB info. I hope this helps.
@@HappyTailsRVing Thanks! Glad I found your vid on this.
Safe travels!
Thank you for watching
Is your gas gauge accurate? It’s says you have over 800miles on full tank?
Lol i can only say...i wish!! No when ya first fill up it takes the last recorded mpg b4 fill up. It drops down to a more reasonable level after about 10 miles.
So what is the fix on the truck itself? Pulling a boat trailer I get those faults
The fix for us was a new TCM (Trailer control module) along with a flash. That was done about 8 months ago and we have not had it reoccur. You can also install a LED resistor inline. We did that initially until we could get into a shop, due to fulltime rving.
@@HappyTailsRVing just answer guy telling me it could be a computer problem. Had mine in ford 4 times and I was told they couldn’t do anymore on it.
Is that in-line resistor to wire to the 7 prong or both ? All one module?
Inline to the 7 way. Typically on the wire thay you are getting the fault from. Aka brn or yellow ect
@@HappyTailsRVing well I only use the four prong ,
yep love hate relationship the more electronics they put on them the worse it gets.....
A truer statement has never been said. That’s for sure.
Is this related to the very recent recall on the trailer brake controller not working?
We are not sure if this is part of that same recall or not, this truck is part of that recall so we will see if it is when it goes in, in three weeks. I will post a video letting you all know if or if not it was. Thank you for watching.
There is a recall on these. The controller can fail and then no brakes from my understanding
Yes, that is the current recall that is updated in the discription. We are not sure if the brake controller recall is part of the turn fault or not but we are scheduled for a few weeks so we will do an update. Thank you for watching.
I wonder if it is related to the brake control recall through Ford right now. I have a 2022 F350 as well, and I just got the recall notice through my Ford app. Sometimes, my dump trailers will not even show up as being connected to the truck, even though the harness is plugged in.
Yes i have spoken to some that have that same problem. I will update in two weeks after it gets that reflash done for the trailer module. Thank you for watching.
I have a 22 350 drw and didn't get any such notice...you'res a single wheel?
No it is a drw. You can check your ford app or you can go here www.nhtsa.gov/ and enter your vin to check if you fall into the same recall.
Thanks for sharing! Always good to see easy workarounds for annoying problems. Even though your reported symptoms are different, I wonder if the recently announced recall for the 21-22 superduty integrated trailer control module software will also fix this problem 'behind the scenes'? Here's a link to a video and documentation that better describes that recall: ua-cam.com/video/Qh5NhJPdnn0/v-deo.html
Cheers!
Yes i too am curious if it will fix it our not. If not....well atleast this fixed it for me...lol. Thanks for tuning in!!!