The Truth About the Last Celtic King of Scots
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- Опубліковано 16 лип 2024
- Was MacBeth the last Celtic king in Scottish history? Maybe Malcolm Canmore? Who was the last Celtic king of Scotland and how and why did their reign come to an end? Scottish history tour guide, Bruce Fummey traces Scottish history to a key family and turning point in Scotland's story.
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As a Scottish history tour guide people ask: Help me plan a Scottish holiday, or help me plan a Scottish vacation of your from the US. So I've tried to give a bit of history, but some places of interest in Scotland as well.
I dont know how I've only come across this channel, but its utterly incredible!
same
@@alethearia it's tidies up the parts of Scottish history I was confused about, but also taught me so much
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Your stories of Scots history is both entertaining and informstive.
My ancestor (Paganus de Leonne) came north as a commanding knight with Edgar and was awarded lands, which became known as Glen Lyon. Leonne became spelled a Lyon and eventually the family built Glamis Castle and much later Elizabeth Bowes-Lyon was born.
Hello.... My name is David Carnachan and I was born in Troon Scotland in 1954. My family moved to USA in 1959 where I have lived and raised a family. 4 wee ones and 9 grandchildren. I pass on stories to them all about our Scottish heritage. Your U-Tube videos' have given me so much history and presented in such a beautiful Scottish way that I pass them on to my family and others. Thank You!!!!!! Your awesome... I loved your video who can be Scottish and can blacks talk about Scotland. I say there are 2 kinds of people in this world.... Those who are Scottish and those who want to be Scottish... Just sayn... Keep up the great work... I'm watching.
Yay😎
I'm getting an image of Mike Meyers Dad in "So I married an axe murderer" Hollywood's finest depiction of Scottish manliness
You are the best story teller I have ever listened to. You keep it interesting all the way through.
Yay, thanks
You really bring Scottish history to life! It is so strengthing and affirming learning about my ancestors.
Cheers
History just keeps being more interesting every time a new story comes to light.
It's true
My Great Grandmother was born McVey, and as I understand it that it is an English spelling of MacBeth, per Queen Elisabeth's decree to have scribes anglaise Irish and Scottish names for a census.
I would love to see you do a segment on Basque migration to the British Isles.
Brilliant videos! I don't know how many I've watched so far today but you've made the day fly by!
Ah you fell into my trap😈
I love this story. I'm a descendant of the Donnachadh family and love the stories.
Interesting. I always thought MacBeth was much earlier. I learned a lot from this video...but then, I seem to learn a lot from all of your videos.
Great to hear!
The first name I thought of was David the 2nd. I'm still learning. Scotland has always fascinated me, I think it always will.
Thanks, Bruce! Very interesting transition described from Celtic to Saxon to Norman.
My hubby and I love travelling all over Scotland, wild camping, when we have the same time off work. I'm getting you the biggest coffee and a cake if our paths ever cross. Lovin your history lessons 💕💕
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I'm an American Campbell who's ancestors came to Virginia in the mid 1700s. I am facinated by my Scottish heritage as well as the mixed bag that the Campbell name conjures. I'm so glad I found your channel. Thanks.
Fear the Kilt - A mixed bag? Walter Scot called the Campbells "The Dukes of Guile" There i san interesting book by a Campbell who worked for the Hudson Bay Company it is currently called "Two Journals of Robert Campbell" available on Amazon or in public domain
@@fredgillespie5855 thanks for the information. I'll surely check is out.
Another excellent story Bruce. Although one comment, could have been a very well lit dungeon for all Donald would have known!
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Dark.
Giving up because of the background music. Too loud.
wow really interesting tuff! nice work :)
Great info, thanks :)
Very well presented thank you sir
I thank you Robert
I'm really happy discovering this channel, I did not know this fascinating story, I hardly knew that the name Donnachadh literally means "black warrior"; and then to the first question "who was the last Celtic king? I would have answered" Calgacos "but probably more than a King he was a military leader of the Pictish kingdom, before the Scots came to Caledonia from Ireland. British history is very fascinating !!!
Strange that donnachaidh was known for being full of reds and blondes.
Fascinating, love your storytelling and always learn a lot, thank you kindly. If I may, the music is a bit too loud for me, love it though 😁👌
Aye it's a difficult balance as we get older and that wee bit deefer. I did several iterations and kept reducing the volume. I think it creates a much better atmosphere, given that I was stuck in the hoose, though I know when the kids make a noise in the background I cannae hear the telly myself.
@@ScotlandHistoryTours Ah Ah indeed ! It's mostly because I am not a native English speaker, I focus hard to make sure I don't miss anything, subtitles help a great deal actually. Btw, what a lovely accent you have Bruce, music to my ears, thank you ^_^
Technicality the last native Celtic Scottish king or Gael/Pictish King you could probably say is Macbeth. The Stuarts were Breton ancestry.
Thanks again Bruce, I ordered the book you recommended.
Guid lad Scott
Great channel 👍
Thank you 👍
Malcom Canmore?. Bruce you have a interesting way of telling stories, I really enjoy them
Cheery indeed--an interesting tale!
I love it! "In a dodgy Shakespeare play, ..." :) Great stuff, Bruce!
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I have no idea who the King would be at the time. I don't know much of Scotland's history. I randomly found this Channel. I'm getting my history on the fly. Very entertaining and informative. You are a great storyteller.
Thanks Ramon. Keep watching
@@ScotlandHistoryTours Most certainly Sir! Thank you for the great content.
Alexander III was the last direct (Celtic and Gaelic speaking) descendant of Malcolm III to sit on the throne. Following him (and the maid Margaret of.Norway), they were all Norman families, Balliol, Bruce and Stewart.
Robert the Bruce was Celtic Gael on his mothers side and spoke Gaelic
@@bigboaby555 as did his son and other decedents, most of Scotland was Gaelic speaking until the mid late sixteenth century. the reformation was the tipping point.
@@bigboaby555 - Robert's maternal grandfather was Roland of Carrick - and that is a good Celtic Gaelic name, Roland's wife was Norman but her father, Neil, might have been a Gael. You've got to do a bit of searching to find much more that a trace of Celtic Gaelic blood in Bruce's veins. The main thing is that between the ears he was Norman.
@@fredgillespie5855 I think u need to rethink your comment ? Was Niall Mac Donnchaidh gaelic or not ??
@@bigboaby555 - If I remember right it is thought that Niall Mac Donnchaidh was related to a Lord of the Isles but again, as I recall, he married a Norman. If that is correct it still leaves yer hero with very few Gaelic genes. The point I am making is that 1314 and independence is a piece of nonsense, it was independence from Anglo Norman overlordship of the Normans in Scotland. The long term results of this "independence were a disaster for the Scots because their Norman masters were a greedy, ravenous, oppressive bunch of - - . That mentality established a culture of "We're in power and we are in control", at best it is a patronising attitude to people that has persisted down through time and prevails even in our so called democracy today. Until Scots wake up to that and do something about it, they will never be free.
Did it also tie in with the establishment of feudalism? It's something that was happening all across Europe in this period - Scotland, Norway, Hungary - taking over from the older tribal ways of society. For instance (top of my head a bit here) I've read that on the death of Duncan (however that happened???) MacBeth would have been the successor under tribal/clan rules as the next most senior chieftan, whereas feudalism meant father-son line of succession.
(Edit - have now caught your vids on Macbeth and Malcolm Canmore - very good, by the way - and so am quite a bit clearer. Also, I can now use words like 'Tanistry' and 'Primogeniture' with every confidence. Thanks, as always.)
Not quite, but going in that direction
Fascinating 🧐
McAlpine? In a prev excellent video, as always, you asked about your place in Scotland. Your banner on this video answers it. Who was OUR last Celtic king? You said ours, not theirs
Honestly, couldn't think of any celtic scottish Kings. Although plenty new topics to look into. Thanks again Bruce!
Thanks for joining in though Steven. That's the main point. The discussion is more important than the answer
I'm letting you educate me,to fill in the gaps left by the westminster organised education I suffered in the late fifties.
I knew more,historically and geographically, about england than I did about my own country.
I did ask about this from "miss hogarth",a formidable lady who told me how scottish education was regulated by london (simplified? Yes ).The next teacher was mz stevens/stevenson,she continued teaching the official anglicised history but would read us tales from the alternate history.
I was a lucky one,got a wee taste of the real scotland.
Carry on the guid work...it is appreciated...seriously.
Dude this is awesome.....
Glad you think so!
Brings it all to life!
Hi Bruce, thank you. I knew the history of this period, but for whatever reason, I've always blamed Margaret and David I for the downfall of Gaelic in Scotland, but for some reason, I never saw Malcolm III in the same light, and I saw him as a more passive participant. But, after watching this video, I think I'm going to have to re-evaluate my opinion of him. Tapadh leat agus tìoraidh an-dràsta, a charaid.
Hey Roy, thanks for watching. Remember I'm only ever condensing stories into a ten minute summary. Malcolm does seem a bit of a rogue to me right enough. Then again who wasn't?
@@ScotlandHistoryTours - I'm an old dog, but I'm willing to learn new tricks, and sometimes there's a nugget in a 10-minute video that writers of stuffy history books gloss over because the authors *know* the history *too well* and they think some of the details are obvious or unimportant. Different viewpoints expose different aspects of history. Thank you again.
I used to live in the wee village next to dunsinin Hill and now I live in Lumphanan and wondered how one was related to the other xxx
Sooo Donald III it was then. Thanks for that bit of history Bruce - Interesting and beguilingly told, as always.
A lovely presentation, although I missed the scones and cream.
Cheers bruce man
Nae bother
Great history and v well told.
I'm going to watch it again and draw a diagram as that is a lot of smiting.
Aye it was.fog est dog right enough
Nice 1 👍
Thak you sir
Nice to hear the family history.
Princess Mary of Scotland Dunkeld, the youngest daughter of Malcolm III, is my direct ancestor. The line runs as follows:
Mary of Scotland Dunkeld X Eustace III Count of Boulogne,.
Mathilde of Boulogne X Stephen I of England (de Blois), .
Mary of Boulogne X Matthew of Alsace ,
Maud of Boulogne/ Flanders X Henry I, Duke of Brabant.
These are ancestors of my proven ancestor John II, Duke of Brabant.
Malcolm III is my 26th great grandfather through both my parents.
What is the most Celtic country? CANADA! Our English speakers were mainly from Scotland and Ireland with some from Wales, our French speakers were mainly from Brittany, the last Celtic territory after the Germanic invasions.
Love your work. And from tales from my grandad in the 60s I'm proud of the history he installed in me. But this title is wrong I am afraid.
Surly the last Celtic king is Kenny. YNWA Keep up the great work. I watch when pain wakes me they help to relax . I sailed the captain Scott out of fort William and walk over many islands and bens. wish I could travel back up there maybe one more time buy you a cup of coffee but sick pay is a struggle you could be scotlands next national treasure. When we loose the big yin
Just sit back and enjoy Gary.... but leave oot the Old Firm Jokes😎 C'moan the Saints
@@ScotlandHistoryTours sorry Liverpudlian/ red nothing too do with the old firms. Stevie G for rangers so happy for both sides. We always had rangers and Celtic fans coming regular to the Kop. So I love them both.
They killed Kenny.
Enjoying the video, but finding the volume of the music distracting.
Okay, I watched the video first. Funny thing, I was going to say MacBeth, but that's because I find him fascinating (yes, I do love the play, but I find the actual man far more interesting!). I was surprised how close I was!
The music was so loud. I couldn't here the speaker whose hard enough to understand with that broag.
It's not even a strong accent. If you can't understand a Scottish accent this probably isn't the channel for you
The background music is good, but a bit loud.
Hi, big ask, but do you know much about the Moncur Castle please?
"It was David I 's idea to put his eyes out." That's the Olga of Kiev in him!
No idea, Bruce. Found it difficult to concentrate with the music being played at the same time. Maybe that's because of my age but it interfered with your voice.
Aye age is never a solo visiter eh?😁
I am from the Men of Dùn Chailleann.
@🏴⚔️ Scotland History Tours w/Bruce Fummey
0:15 I would choose a very common Scottish name such as Hamish or Donaidh (Donnie) dunno,شو رايك ؟ what do you think?
One can be a Mother and a Saint.
Edgar granted siward son of osulf son of siward with the lands of strathor, including the town of orr = balfour, in exchange for "the head of Ottar the Dane" from then on, all of the balfour families had the head of an otter on their coat of arms. It is believed this happened during the capture of Donal Ban
I really like your videos but, could you please turn the music down just a bit? I would much rather hear what you have to say than the background tune.
Why oh why do you think background music was a brillianant idea? Chan eil seo sgoinneil idir.
A lot of us aren't Scottish and many of us don't speak English as a first language which means we have to concentrate to follow your words.
You have such a great way to explain Scottish history and listening to Scots is great fun but trying to make sense of it all with flutes merily piping away - chan eil sin spòrsail a bharrachd.
Please, please stop this music thing. You don't need it. Your performance and your knowledge are enough to make your videos brilliant without any chi-chi.
Thank you, greetings from Bavaria.🙋🏻♀️
Instead of insulting some use the subtitles. It's free
@@ScotlandHistoryTours Where is the insult? I'm very sorry if you feel insulted by honest feedback and pointing out a real problem for those that actually want to hear what you say. Criticism is a chance to make good things even better... if it's seen as such.
I thought I underlined your videos are great as they are without the loud "background music". If this insults you, I can't help it.
Thank you very much for your "advice" to use subtitles since they are free (speaking of insults). - Have you ever used them yourself? Since your videos are in Scots - which I very much appreciate, the generated traslation comes out as pure nonsense in parts - it's programmed for Queen's English. I take it you know that.
So, if you are really interested in how your videos are for your viewers, you might be interested in their honest opinion and even more so in how to improve things that could make watching even better.
I take it you didn't like my feedback about the other video that was taken under a railway bridge in very windy weather, either. I was wondering why you uploaded it like this. Surely, you must have noticed the problem yourself when you watched it before uploading. It was barely audible and as a consequence the subtitles were rubbish, too
Why do I take my time commenting here? Despite your thinking me a meanie it is because I LIKE your videos and I want to share them with friends but that only makes sense when people can understand without problems. I could have clicked a thumbs down and left for good like many people do on UA-cam but I think your videos very valuable information presented in a very entertaining way - well worth watching but it seems that doesn't mean much when you feel insulted over the fact that someone says your background music is too loud and the video doesn't need background music at all because the informatoin and the persormance are the importand part and they are brilliant.
I love Scotland, Scottish history, Scottish music, speaking Gaelic and I love my Scottish friends. I never insulted any of these people and things. I never thought I'd get slapped in the face by a Scot who felt insulted by honest feedback. Thank you very much for this lesson.
Right enough, the music is a wee biy loud.
How far back can you go? Have you done any research on the corded Ware people, are the beaker people? How far back in history can you go? Do you know where the pictish came from, on a side note I watch the video the other day from you and I was thinking when you're talking about all the geography it'd be nice if you had a little map that popped up off to the side period as you discussed it, gives you kind of a visual representation of some of the locations
Sometimes it does
How about a video demonstrating your piano playing talents or horseback riding skills. I bet you're a natural at both!
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Off hand, I'd have said Alexander 3 or his grand-daughter Margaret, Maid of Norway depending on who you ask. But I'm not sure if he is considered Celtic.
My Guess is ; James VI of Scotland & James I of England.
With respect as always, the music is unnecessary as, I personally, just love to hear you alone, a la David Starkey style rather than Neil Oliver style, although the soundtrack to History of Scotland by Neil Oliver, was amazing and I have that on my 'bath playlist'. Give it ago, it's on Amazon Music I think. The series you cannot get anywhere least of all the BBC. I've no idea why.
Starkey? Is that not that old right wing racist tosser?
@@ScotlandHistoryTours Oh yes. I never said he was a good man just that his narrating style is classic.
Having your eyes burnt out and being thrown into a dungeon, to be forgotten, ... 11th century justice, ... Firm, but fair.
The bairn's wilnae lear otherwise
Definitely 11th century, , their contemporary, King Henry I of England had his older brother, Robert Duke of Normandy, blinded and imprisoned in Cardiff castle for the rest of his long life.
So, thank you for your insight on Scottish history, but, can I ask you, are you for Scottish independence? (Not a trap question)
I don't want this to be a political channel. It wouldn't take much digging to find my viewpoint
bethoc is on my mccubbin family tree MA in UK History
My answer would be James IV in that he was the last King of Scotland to speak Gaelic :)
Lulach? I don’t know if he was officially King of Scots, but he was “in charge” sometime before or after MacBeth.
I think this might almost agree
Sounds like a good movie
I know, right?
@@ScotlandHistoryTours thank you for educating about David I. I would definitely watch that movie if Hollywood or anyone really decided to make a film about this interesting figure in Scottish history
Macbeth comes to mind
I wouldn't have said Somerled, because us McDougalls and Mcintyres and many McLeods know that Somerled is our ancestor, was very much a mostly Norwegian man.
Great music.
I am a member of the Irwin Clan, Didn't the Irvines and MacBeth cross paths, I thought that the Irvines were kings of Scotlad for a bit back in the 300s
Scotland didn't exist back then, but I'm sure they were kings of something
"Lay on MacDuff and damn'd be him who cries, 'Hold! Enough!' "
Aye, it didnae happen
The very idea to put Malcolm Cranmore the last celtic King ! I always thought that David I was a celtic king but it seems he was more Norman than celtic
Hello, I'm having trouble finding information of any worthy information on the 10th king of Scotland. Could you help me??
I think you'll struggle to get an autobiography
@@ScotlandHistoryTours I have been. Do you know why?
Very little source material that far back
Please turn down the mood music, as sweet as it is.
So it's said that Eric the red was killed by his cousin and that cousin fled with the Hebrides to the isle of man is the true story ?
having thought about the title I came up with the Queens daddy?
MacBeath, Steward of Moray and later King of Scotland was a Pict
PS!! just have to say - in the most diplomatic way possible. I found the music in the background too loud.
Jhon malcom and william wallace fought alongside each other. King alexander died breaking his neck falling off his horse during a storm. We were giving our name scotland from the celtic irish
I hope it isn't as I like to believe many Celtic kings reigned, but I can only think of Kenneth MacAlpin.
Kenneth McAlpine
Who if any would be king or queen in Scotland at this moment in time?
Kenneth McAlpine?
1:08 my guess is Macbeth because I haven’t the clue
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@@ScotlandHistoryTours also I watched Tony Robinson’s documentary on the true Macbeth….so honestly just guessing. I know Macbeth was the last northern king…..and that’s about it. But I love your videos(just watching your st. Columba video…my favourite Saint, Iona is in my book one of the most beautiful places in Scotland).
Kennith McAlpin?
Tip: galley slaves and the Spanish Armada. Where did the escaping fleet sink? Buy a dry suit. You might find some fine artifacts along the coast.
Aye, that'll no be me
Bridi of Fortrui ?
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James Stuart
I would argue that Robert the Bruce could possibly be considered. I know the Bruce's were a Norman family but his mother was the very Celtic indeed Marjorie, Countess of Carrick, and in fact it was her land and title that he inherited not his fathers. Despite carrying his fathers name he was a Celtic Mormaer rather than a Norman lord He was born and raised in Carrick, and there is evidence that during his reign he turned to what remained of the Celtic church when he was excommunicated from the Roman one, and even carried relics of the celtic saint Finnan at the Battle of Bannockburn. Not forgetting that it was an army of Highlanders and Islemen that formed the faithful core of his army when he returned from exile after the battles of Methven and Dalrigh. Maybe doesn't quite fit your criteria i'll admit but his accession to the throne could be seen as a little resurgence of the old Celtic blood.
Aye, to a lesser extent you can make some of those arguments for John Balliol too. Personally I'm not buying it. They weren’t Celtic kings in my book. OK, so I don't have a book, opinion would have been a better word. I've said too much. Bye
@@ScotlandHistoryTours Haha fair play man, and for what its worth if you did have a book i'd read that shit.
Ingibjorg Finnsdattars Malcolm Canmores first wife is a forgotten Queen of Scotland. Replaced by the pious conniving Margaret, Yes, St Margaret's , who was half the age of Ingibjorg and a looker apparently who turned Canmores head . The younger more attractive Margaret has had Ingibjorg written out of history, know one knows where she is buried.
Margaret then band Gaelic at the Scottish court on getting her feet under the table Canmore and Margaret both being Anglophones where brought up in Saxon England. The last know mention of Ingibjorg was the monks at Durham who are recorded as prying for her after her death. Nothing is as it seems in History the truth being rewritten for political purposes or self interest.👍😊
Just get it done!
Cause
IF twere DONE when tis done , twere well it twere done quickly
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First thought was King Dubh/Dub/Duff
Robert.
I, II or III?