MotoGP VS Two Stoke 500cc Sidecars

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  • Опубліковано 7 лип 2011
  • This video was made in Germany at the German IDM Superbike Championship which had these 2 stroke sidecars with F1 technology doing a support race.
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  • @9736grunn
    @9736grunn 4 роки тому +6

    What a piece of art ! Im in love.

  • @chucklaneChuckylane
    @chucklaneChuckylane 11 років тому +2

    The Dutch World Championships, 1985..All TWO STROKES, (DUH, It was 1985) Very good race coverage of the last ten minutes, Also includes a wicked crash with Steve Webster backing it in, HARD

  • @chucklaneChuckylane
    @chucklaneChuckylane 11 років тому +2

    Very clean bikes, I got to spend a couple of hours on an already out dated Kaw 1000 side hack, We were in a new parking lot for a truck stop with not a bump in it. This was 1993. My friend was a bit unpredictable as the pilot, Almost spitting Me off 3 times, I took over as pilot & w/ our agreed line We were to run on, It was WFO all the way! 10 to 15 laps each time, Smooth, Fast & FUN play day! PS, I was taught how to safety wire by a dirt track legend & I will be glad to share a tip U may like

  • @mechmoto
    @mechmoto  12 років тому +1

    Sorry the original audio got removed while trying different things with the settings. There weren't much 2 stroke sounds, only the sound of the German Superbikes going around Sachsenring. Awesome side cars, glad you all like them, I appreciate the views..

  • @hawaiisidecar
    @hawaiisidecar 10 років тому +5

    I think I just fell in love!

  • @SPOOKSTR
    @SPOOKSTR 10 років тому +6

    I've raced a 250GP bike (TZ250) and that was a handful. 1000 2T? Holy fuck.

    • @jimlyon7276
      @jimlyon7276 3 роки тому +1

      @SPOOKSTR
      - Just because it's a 2 stroke doesn't mean it has to so highly tuned the rider ends up feeling it's like trying to ride an electric light switch where it's either on or off. After all many excellent trials bikes are strokers. Generally the larger the capacity the softer state of tune you can have to make it more drivable. Smaller capacity 2 stroke engines used on the road tend to be more highly tuned but then they make less horse power. So it tends to be "horses for courses".
      I had a Beckett tuned Yam 350LC with his pipes & because every one else wanted a "wheelie machine" the choice was take it or leave it! I didn't mind it "coming on the pipe" strongly as I knew that was @ 7.5K. The problem was even in a low 1st gear it stalled @ 3K as if the ignition had been switched off ! Fortunately a couple of minor upgrades solved that -
      1) I changed from stainless steel reed petals to fibre glass 1s to give better long term protection for the engine - & @ that time the word was glass fibre petals worked better on tuned engines.
      2) Fitted a "boost bottle"/ Helmholtz Resonator which changes the fuel-air mix from a too rich-too lean sine wave to a straight line gives cleaner carburation & about 10% better fuel economy!
      Put together that stalling @ 3K was gone & out of curiosity in top gear & applying the brakes I could force it down to 1.8K revs! Forward progress @ that point was fairly meaningless & to get reasonable throttle response I had to drop 4 gears! The power hit @ 7.5K had disappeared & was replaced by the pipes starting to "cackle" @ 5.6K revs, as the gases in the pipe started to resonate. - I hate to be a boring sod but this set up without the high drama & being more user friendly was actually faster as the response @ the rear wheel from the throttle input was linear ! :)

  • @idiot-983
    @idiot-983 5 років тому

    What A Work of Art !

  • @Docv400
    @Docv400 11 років тому

    Just . . . stunning!

  • @ions82
    @ions82 7 років тому +2

    I don't even want to know how many hours goes into building one of those. Bonkers.

  • @Gioagla
    @Gioagla 12 років тому +1

    thumbs up for the legendary japanese 2 stroke engines ..!!love them forever !

  • @lukerogers78
    @lukerogers78 12 років тому

    Amazing machines

  • @stevieman38
    @stevieman38 12 років тому

    hahahaha frekin sweet. And may I say I have watched all these videos now, you guys are hilarious! :D

  • @mauriciomessa7575
    @mauriciomessa7575 4 роки тому

    Increíbles máquinas
    Hermosas !!!!

  • @PhilippeGignat
    @PhilippeGignat 5 місяців тому

    Bonne vidéo avec du bon moteurs 2 temps

  • @landlockedviking
    @landlockedviking 10 років тому +4

    mad max would've been jealous!

  • @TheBongomeister
    @TheBongomeister 9 років тому +3

    The last one is beautifully built but a 3 wheel car with wishbone suspension all working in different tracks! I had one with a TZ700 engine and it was lethal - it would weave all the way down the straight. The front wishbone needs to be turned around 90 degrees..................still, it's a beautiful machine!

    • @robthelog223
      @robthelog223 8 років тому

      +Alan Eccles I agree, did you notice the chair wheel had a steering link?

    • @TheBongomeister
      @TheBongomeister 8 років тому

      +rob the log
      I saw the side wheel linkage. I've only ever seen one other like it built by Ian Kirk Engineering in Aberdeen in the early 80s - also with TZ750 power. Driven by a very brave Peter Greig and even braver passenger Rudi Elmquist - it was the original "worm"

    • @robthelog223
      @robthelog223 8 років тому

      +Alan Eccles Yeah, I'm still scratchin' me 'ead over that front end though, I imagine you'd get a lot of torque and bump steer, is that the case?

    • @TheBongomeister
      @TheBongomeister 8 років тому

      +rob the log
      Terrible bumpsteer - I just couldn't dial it out. My chassis was designed by a Formula 3 car engineer who thought he could just "take a wheel out". It was also a short wheelbase so it squirmed everywhere. I sold it, mainly for the Denis Trollope TZ700 motor but the buyer decided to long wheelbase it and turn the front round 90 degrees but tragically he was killed in a big off in the mid 80s

    • @robthelog223
      @robthelog223 8 років тому +1

      +Alan Eccles Yeah I sorta thought it'd handle like a dog on a tiled floor, I just can't workout how this is a good set up. that's very sad about the bloke that got killed, but that's the very nature of chair racing. Cheers to ya bloke, Rob in Oz.

  • @ninjapat66
    @ninjapat66 5 днів тому

    Indy great videos ,when you getting g your Daughter on a 65cc??🔥 Had to comment here I couldn't on your video you made with her watching Ant!👍

  • @67rotorhead
    @67rotorhead 7 років тому

    The Yamaha TZ 350,500,700,750 all share the same parts. The 500 and above are (2) 350 engines mated together.
    These engines used to Race in Formula750 in the states. Also at IOMTT

  • @madmaniacloony
    @madmaniacloony 8 років тому +1

    where can i get one of these engines?????

  • @irhererOfLoL
    @irhererOfLoL 11 років тому

    what engines are they from? ive never seen a 4 cyl liquid cooled 2t

  • @mechmoto
    @mechmoto  12 років тому +2

    Two Stroke Engines have this strange exhaust pipes because they need a different back pressure system to maintain power compared with a four stroke.

  • @clackarelli
    @clackarelli 11 років тому

    They are TZ500 motors from a yzr500 from before 2002 when the rules were changed to put 4 strokes back at the front.

  • @tonichecavalari5956
    @tonichecavalari5956 4 роки тому

    Wow ' chain driven too ! 😎

  • @vekash485
    @vekash485 4 роки тому

    How can I get this engine

  • @jsnownman
    @jsnownman 12 років тому

    I'm surprised that your not running flatslide carbs. on those for the enhanced throttle response and ease of throttle pull for racing.

  • @andyb.1026
    @andyb.1026 Рік тому

    These are only based on Yamaha engines, but are Krauser, made in Europe 🇪🇺 😀

  • @stevieman38
    @stevieman38 12 років тому

    Are you a personal friend of Ant West or are you a MZ Mechanic. I am not sure because you seem to spend a lot of time with ant xD

  • @Docv400
    @Docv400 10 років тому +1

    I didn't realise you were allowed steering on the 'chair' wheel.
    Is that a Germany-only thing?

    • @chucklaneChuckylane
      @chucklaneChuckylane 9 років тому

      John Warner I had to go back & see because at first I thought, WTF? But it sure looks like it steers! I've never heard of any side hack w/ that feature, I've even got seat time on a road race sidecar Kaw 1000 & still never heard of this kind of set-up. Never the less, they're beautiful though & a couple hot laps on one would be great!

    • @konaguzzi1
      @konaguzzi1 8 років тому

      +John “Doc” Warner these are older if they had two wheel steer this was banned along with two wheel drive they also dropped from 700/750 cc to 500cc Krauser engines making about 180hp

  • @mechmoto
    @mechmoto  12 років тому

    This was us recording what the Germans do in their side car championships, not us. We are in the MotoGP with bikes

  • @samzhu3210
    @samzhu3210 8 років тому

    Ready to go?

  • @mechmoto
    @mechmoto  12 років тому

    Tearing You Up Inside - Hills Rolling

  • @tommorgan950
    @tommorgan950 10 років тому

    Looks like #reddingpower at the end of the video ???

  • @mechmoto
    @mechmoto  11 років тому

    Sorry, between the MotoGP races we visited the Sachsenring circuit so I put MotoGP in there

  • @wsz2736
    @wsz2736 5 років тому

    What is the name of this black glasses i like how they look

    • @TheAlflh
      @TheAlflh 5 років тому

      Oakley Gascan ;) !

  • @sdkfz3000
    @sdkfz3000 12 років тому

    why do the 2 stroke engines have this strange exhaust pipes?

  • @1212sman
    @1212sman 12 років тому +1

    They do make a 1-stroke; it's called a "gun"...

  • @lorddna
    @lorddna 10 років тому +7

    this is not a 1000cc two stroke but a 500cc two stroke 4 cilinder

  • @R188S
    @R188S 12 років тому +1

    I miss 2 strokes :(

    • @orsonkaart1853
      @orsonkaart1853 3 роки тому

      R188S , loved the smell of em at the track!

  • @Duckyistrippin
    @Duckyistrippin 10 років тому

    i am open to safety wire tips! no one in our shop can do it worth a flying truck!

  • @bad2mx
    @bad2mx 11 років тому

    lets roll

  • @chucklaneChuckylane
    @chucklaneChuckylane 11 років тому

    I'm sorry, I thought those were YOUR bikes, My bad, You may not need the safety wire tip I was speaking of. I had noticed a small oversight & was going to share w/ You in a private message. Not that it was bad, Just a cool trick. The guy who taught Me was "Anal" when it came to even small stuff, He is in the movie, "On Any SUNDAY" A Champion & a close friend, & everything He took the time to teach Me, I took to heart & I like teaching others anytime if they want. I'll read first next time,lol

  • @mbturbo-bq3rg
    @mbturbo-bq3rg 10 років тому +2

    this are not 500cc (yaaa surrrr....) they are 750cc tz yamaha engine's
    am just saing .....you know?

    • @lorddna
      @lorddna 10 років тому

      I also thought they where 500 cc,why dit they put 750 cc in there.or is this just a project. 750 cc two stroke is of limits???

    • @BigBadLoneWolf
      @BigBadLoneWolf 7 років тому +1

      the TZ engines 750 engines , can be fitted with 2 pairs of 350/250 cylinders and piston , making a 700/500 engine .
      the 700 has more torque and 500 can use powerjet carbs ( this was back in the early eighties when i was spannering for a sidecar team )

    • @keithdawson4804
      @keithdawson4804 5 років тому +2

      @@BigBadLoneWolf
      But only the TZ700/750 cylinders use reed valves

    • @vekash485
      @vekash485 5 років тому

      I think these are yamaha yzr500

  • @GregDucati
    @GregDucati 11 років тому +1

    why is this vid called moto gp vs 2 stroke side cars? it should be called just 2 stroke sidecars??? i dont see where the "vs" or "moto gp" comes into it?

  • @ions82
    @ions82 11 років тому

    Those don't appear to be built for comfort.

  • @mechmoto
    @mechmoto  12 років тому

    Both haha!

  • @BarthelemyLesaint
    @BarthelemyLesaint 8 років тому

    Too bad it can't start...

  • @Duckyistrippin
    @Duckyistrippin 10 років тому

    im surprised you dont realize side hacks carry much more weight and favor torque.

  • @jacksonrees7021
    @jacksonrees7021 4 роки тому

    🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
    🏁🏁🏁interesting race🏎️🏎️🏎️
    0:33 💓💘
    👇👇❤

  • @sebastiandavies5936
    @sebastiandavies5936 4 роки тому

    🔥
    🏁🏁🏁interesting race🏎️🏎️🏎️
    1:24 🔥💞
    👇💘

  • @torinesetorinese4551
    @torinesetorinese4551 2 місяці тому

    che gioiello