@@nicholasholmes4864 The D4S even says powered by deaf bounce on the back of the speaker @5:26. I'm not hating btw, I'm glad JP decided to have them manufactured by them because their mids are some of the best for the money. I like the touches JP added to his speakers as well, very sexy looking speaker. For the money, I went with the Sylvesters.
I think what people are missing is that a lot of companies use the same manufacturer. The difference is in specifications. This is no different than two people going to the same restaurant an ordering a hamburger, one burger is traditional with lettuce tomato and onion while the other burger may be flame broiled with bbq sauce, sautéed onions, and bacon. It’s the same meat just prepared different.
I never realized there were haters until I went to slam. Some people just hate to see others rise. You’re a very fortunate man JP, you worked your ass off for it
So you took a driver that already went from 100hz to 14khz and thought, hmm, what we need for this massive mid is better high frequency range, not a lower fs and use it with a tweeter, but better highs and a much worse, narrow beaming sound. you "created" a 6 inch tweeter thats already 10dB down at 18k, genius
"Massive mid" pphaha it's a 6.5, did you want it to go super low so you can shatter the windshield on your moms kia!? 😂 Use your pyle speakers and let this man put out the product he wants to, little guy!
not the same, but looking like maybe manufactured by DB since the motor assembly is the same basic design and the push terminal DOES have the DB logo on it. so I ask, because I dont know....are they manufactured by DB?
The terminal kn the d4s speaker is a deaf bonce terminal though right? Obviously? Is that why people are saying that? Because db terminals? It does look like the exact same motor with a different logo sticker as well. I'm not saying they are the same. I do see from a manufacturing perspective how it could be built with the exact same cone but different dust cap logo and surround. With a different basket and slightly different coil maybe. It's not the same but it is kinda a copy cat design is a better way to word it I'd say.
Yep few different parts, some the same. I see how someone could think all you did was stick a sticker on a set of Arnold’s and jack it up $50 but now that we can see a side by side it’s a notable difference I myself noticed the baskets was different after looking a little closer when the first came out.
Jack it up $50??? Didn't you mean lower it? D4S are extremely similar (not quite the same) but for a much cheaper price! D4S is literally making "decent" car audio more affordable than SKARbage
I would say your D4S speaker is made by DB, especially since your speaker has its logo on the terminals and back plate. It might not be an arnold but keep it 100, its made by DB. And who gives a shit anyway, Steve Meades subs are AA and no one cries about that.
Here i am 3 years later watching this again. Yes they are made by Deaf Bonce and use some of the same parts but there not just a deaf bonce speaker with D4S logos on them, there is differences that change the sound of the speakers. I have a pair of these D4S 6.5's and the newer version D4S 6.5 V2's and they scream louder and clearer than any other speakers I've heard, regardless of who made them or how close they look to another speaker, no other speaker is fucking with these D4S's period. You won't be disappointed if you pick up a pair.
I don't think one is better than the other. I would look at the Thiele/Small parameters, and see which one is a better fit for your enclosure. These are both EXCELLENT midranges, the only difference, will be where you set your crossover points, which will likely be determined more by the tweeter and woofer, since both of these have such an extended frequency range. Either of these would work excellent in a guitar amplifier application. Bottom line: What's the difference in price?
Haters are gonna talk shit but why would deaf bonce send you a seller of their speakers the same speaker under your brand to sell doest even make since if you aren't a hater cause you would quit ordering the deaf bonce speakers and push your brand if they were the same
I heard these at their shop and they are extremely loud and without a tweeter sounded great. I'm from central CA. So I bought 2 pairs for my truck. Was convinced as soon I heard them 👍
Terminal logo? "DB", looks to be same motor setup didnt watch whole thing, I understand entrepreneurship but there is a difference... I can go create a brand and market it build a company, but If I'm asked about any aspect down to the smallest detail, I can answer because I have ground level experience along with the bussiness mindset. I see lots of people hating cool, I will never hate on anyone who had built something from nothing. No matter if a loan from Jim bob down the road.. 2 options, 1. It sucks and goes bankrupt. 2. They succeed.. Being a business owner myself I started with absolutely zero help and I'll tell ya what, I'd gladly taken a loan to help alleviate the issues.
they really probably aren't much differ, yes the TS specs would be different as every single driver even off the same production line will have different specs.
Not a hater but the frequency response isnt termed 14,000 kilohertz. That doesnt exist. Kilo is 1000, so its either 14 kilohertz or 14,000 hertz. Rock on, JP.
I hate to be a nitpick but at 4:50 pause it and look at the manufacturer of the speakers is the same buildhouse. Yes I know that the same place can build many different products and or versions, but they are very similar motors they have near identical terminal holders I mean the D4S does have a DB (deaf bonce) logo on it. That being said D4S is the shit I buy everything for car audio from d4s I rock the numerous shirts all the time they are awesome quality. And It is a cheaper speaker then the competition all from a good dude so any haters really have no ground to stand on.
Why haters complain? Buy or dont buy but down4sound will continue to grow & exceed. Nothing like excellent ideas, r&d and production. Jp i may not know u personally but i hope i get a free sticker or something for this comment 😜😛
Hey JP I have a Chrysler Sebring convertible what is the best set up to get good bass with my top down pleaseeee someone help need to complete my build by spring
them Haters dont know what they talkin about i personally dont know about audio but i can tell what sounds better and has good quality the haters are ragers cause they rage about every thing they see and hate but keep up the good work i love and support your videos
You could’ve started a brand new car audio company that’s never been heard of before and the haters still would’ve said You copied someone else. Haters going to hate.
Let the haters hate! ...free air sound demo between old Arnold and your new brand please? About to order but not sure if i should wait for the arnold and tweeter pack to come back in stock
No mater what you say, haters are going to hate. They are like my 4 year old when I want him to try new foods. If he's already made up his mind that it's nasty. He'll spit it out before he even taste or chews it. So basically your haters have the mentality of a 4 year old and unless you intend on putting them across your lap and spanking them they will never change.
JP why does the D4S have a DB logo on the terminal block? Are they built for you by DB and speced differently than their speakers so that they are different ?
Which one sounds better? The down for sound looks better and it seems to have better parts as far as the motor and basket. The frequency response seems to be better as far as the numbers but will it sound better than the other speaker?
@@MadDragon75 I got news for ya, that's not a Corvette if you're putting Pontiac parts on it. A more apt comparison would be, a 05 Corvette to a 06 Corvette
@@MadDragon75 even then Its a stretch, more like a Arnold v3. New surround different mounting plate? Sounds like a v3 to me. Also since this is dbs best speaker now do you think maybe they've created a comparible speaker for vendors in other countries?
Fuck if they don't look like a spitting image of the DS18 Deluxe3c mids I have in my doors. Other than the cone surrounds and lack of phase cone, it looks like my mids. If they sound anything like my mids, y'all in for a treat. A+
More haters you have means the more successful you are in life. I was and an still not a jp fanboy but I have been a sub for years. I have bought stuff from d4s and have amazing results. Cheap and fast delivery. I had a question and jp responded personally and really fast. I say good job making a career and money from the ground up on your passion.
@@kevinkeller1313 sounds like you owned low end subs then jumped to Sundown. Yes youre right, the brands you named dont come close to Sundown subwoofers... but compare them to DC Audio, DD, Xile, Crescendo, RE Audio, Orion, DS 18s and even some Skar Audio subs and i bet youll see that Sundown is not the only one with quality superior subwoofers.
@@kevinkeller1313 DC Audio is my go to... i personally run 2 DC Audio lvl 4s (great SQ plus SPL) on a 4k with RE Audio Components front and back on a DC Audio 175.4 (@2 ohm 250 rms per speaker). 270 alternator plus 2 Kinetic 2400 bstteries. My subs get 2k rms a piece and never clipped once.
He cares lol, more than anyone else in the industry. Nobody else is making stupid ass videos like this. Literally, nobody in the industry caters to such child like behavior.
lol the D4S is a basic clone of the DB speaker, damn even uses almost the same terminal and motor! Yeah different logo and surround and basket its like a Chinese clone, same factory lol! Not same but a shameless clone!
Dude DEAF BONCE Makes them both. It’s a different line Not a clone. No company clones they’re own shit g. That’s like a m3 being a clone of a 3 series Bmw lol
@@vatican35 I doubt deaf bounce makes either of them. They almost all use 1 or 2 different Build houses. Jl audio does there own manufacturing and there is prob a few others. (That explains the pricing) Doesnt make them the same. With a 100 different components offered by one build house you could make 1000 different speakers with something different. Its just easier to use a proven combination of components that in this cause db spent the time combining and then modify from there to make it look different or change the performance to a way you like. Sundown and I'm sure 1 or 2 other companies help design a new component and then get a 6 month or 1 year exclusivity agreement on that component before other companys can order it. That's a example that was the case with the last sundown sa baskets.
Happy for you JP may have to get these for the next project. #DontWorryAboutTheHatersJP #LetThemHateThatsWhatTheyDo #GreatLookingSpeaker #TheLifeOfPrice #Down4Sound #SubscribeShareLike
@JONATHON PRICE Can D4S recommend an amp/sub set up for passenger car under 1000 watts out of your inventory? We’re friends on fb but I can’t comment to you. Hoping you can answer me on here.
I can tell the difference between the two. But I can also tell the difference between Froot Loops and Fruit Rings cereal
Thats like saying 2 different 5.2L v8s are the same just because they are both 5.2l V8s, while completely ignoring the build differences.
Both are poison. Did you see the report of all the glyphosate found in our cereal. Switch to kashi organic cereal or make breakfast
@@familyman8644 dam fr your scaring me
😂
Nothing wrong with having them made by The same manufacture 90% of the speakers are from the same build house
Yes not the same but same build house. Even has DB terminals on both. Not hating I'm sure they are amazing. They are well built good 👍🏿 shit
@@nicholasholmes4864 The D4S even says powered by deaf bounce on the back of the speaker @5:26. I'm not hating btw, I'm glad JP decided to have them manufactured by them because their mids are some of the best for the money. I like the touches JP added to his speakers as well, very sexy looking speaker. For the money, I went with the Sylvesters.
Bolth say db on the terminals
Bolth? Or Both😂
I think what people are missing is that a lot of companies use the same manufacturer. The difference is in specifications. This is no different than two people going to the same restaurant an ordering a hamburger, one burger is traditional with lettuce tomato and onion while the other burger may be flame broiled with bbq sauce, sautéed onions, and bacon. It’s the same meat just prepared different.
Why my d4s speaker got deaf bounce on it
I never realized there were haters until I went to slam. Some people just hate to see others rise. You’re a very fortunate man JP, you worked your ass off for it
They are made in the same place all audio manufacturers do it choose their own baskets and other parts off a shelf
3:18 the terminals look nothing alike? Whats up with the deaf bonce logo on "yours" 😂😂😂
once again JP you've knocked it out of the park keep doing you and continue to check those haters !
Thank you!
@@THELIFEOFPRICE what's up with the db logo on "your" terminals homie 🤔
@@GTILOUD exactly
I’ve had both of them. Deaf bonces are a lot louder. But I agree that they are different.
A lot louder
So you took a driver that already went from 100hz to 14khz and thought, hmm, what we need for this massive mid is better high frequency range, not a lower fs and use it with a tweeter, but better highs and a much worse, narrow beaming sound. you "created" a 6 inch tweeter thats already 10dB down at 18k, genius
"Massive mid" pphaha it's a 6.5, did you want it to go super low so you can shatter the windshield on your moms kia!? 😂 Use your pyle speakers and let this man put out the product he wants to, little guy!
Y does d4s have db plastic for speakers input ? Aluminum basket magnet and actual hook up to inputs ,,,, same speaker
Yeah I noticed that
I never called anything out until now, the only thing I want to point out is the terminals both have a DB logo on them
Yes, they are made by deaf Bonce for Down4sound. Why is this hard to understand?
@@Widowmaker2828 It's because they're refusing to believe that JP actually made his own speaker
@@TheBoostinbobby Sounds like a bitch complaining because you're too broke to buy the expensive system that you wanted
not the same, but looking like maybe manufactured by DB since the motor assembly is the same basic design and the push terminal DOES have the DB logo on it.
so I ask, because I dont know....are they manufactured by DB?
Why does the d4s speaker have a DB terminal set 😂
Deaf bonce makes the d4s speakers
I smell DS18 if ya know what I mean. Maybe DB smells like DS18 too. China build house with color options you can slap a logo on.
@@omarmontoya5591 they built them but they ain't theirs...
Because their using the D4S name to sell their speaker. Bet you anything db is on a 80/20 take of the profits.
@@codyscoles3576 shut up cody you're like 12.
The haters have been schooled.
Its made by the same company so its gonna look just alike but its the guts that count but how many ppl have a speaker raise their hand ??? I will wait
This is like a episode of Sesame Street! 😂😂😂
"One of these things is not like the other"
The terminal kn the d4s speaker is a deaf bonce terminal though right? Obviously? Is that why people are saying that? Because db terminals? It does look like the exact same motor with a different logo sticker as well. I'm not saying they are the same. I do see from a manufacturing perspective how it could be built with the exact same cone but different dust cap logo and surround. With a different basket and slightly different coil maybe. It's not the same but it is kinda a copy cat design is a better way to word it I'd say.
You using Erisson to OEM?
Yep few different parts, some the same. I see how someone could think all you did was stick a sticker on a set of Arnold’s and jack it up $50 but now that we can see a side by side it’s a notable difference I myself noticed the baskets was different after looking a little closer when the first came out.
Jack it up $50??? Didn't you mean lower it? D4S are extremely similar (not quite the same) but for a much cheaper price! D4S is literally making "decent" car audio more affordable than SKARbage
Why do BOTH of the terminals have DB on them?? That's Deaf Bonce Logo
Both are made in china. Pretty much the same speakers lol.
He’s already talked about this. You must’ve watched his original video of his new speakers with the volume off.
Funny Animals and who makes the speakers, genius?
How about stop being a bitch and watch his previous videos where he mentions that DB is the one that makes the D4s speaker
Either way they both made in china... lol
I would say your D4S speaker is made by DB, especially since your speaker has its logo on the terminals and back plate. It might not be an arnold but keep it 100, its made by DB. And who gives a shit anyway, Steve Meades subs are AA and no one cries about that.
Here i am 3 years later watching this again. Yes they are made by Deaf Bonce and use some of the same parts but there not just a deaf bonce speaker with D4S logos on them, there is differences that change the sound of the speakers. I have a pair of these D4S 6.5's and the newer version D4S 6.5 V2's and they scream louder and clearer than any other speakers I've heard, regardless of who made them or how close they look to another speaker, no other speaker is fucking with these D4S's period. You won't be disappointed if you pick up a pair.
I don't think one is better than the other. I would look at the Thiele/Small parameters, and see which one is a better fit for your enclosure. These are both EXCELLENT midranges, the only difference, will be where you set your crossover points, which will likely be determined more by the tweeter and woofer, since both of these have such an extended frequency range. Either of these would work excellent in a guitar amplifier application.
Bottom line: What's the difference in price?
Haters are gonna talk shit but why would deaf bonce send you a seller of their speakers the same speaker under your brand to sell doest even make since if you aren't a hater cause you would quit ordering the deaf bonce speakers and push your brand if they were the same
Screw them they're jealous you have earned you're on speaker. What amp do you recommend for four of them or two of them?
Deaf bonce 201.4
I'm trying to put together a deaf bonce system of my own. Already have the subs, now working on getting mids and highs. Bass!!¡!!!
A Trans-Am is not a Corvette. Parts fit but two different leagues.
Saying that they are the same shows lack of knowledge.. Pure ignorance.
The one that dislikes is not a bass head fan
I ordered a pair of D45-60s. Can wait to hear them! Thanks JP for putting the work into these!
You’ll love them!
I heard these at their shop and they are extremely loud and without a tweeter sounded great. I'm from central CA. So I bought 2 pairs for my truck. Was convinced as soon I heard them 👍
How were they?
Clarity? And any break up or distortion? How did they handle low-end extension frequencies?
Hard to explain but these speakers scream, the vocals are loud and mids were tight bass 👍
I’m bout to order 2 for my front doors
Terminal logo? "DB", looks to be same motor setup didnt watch whole thing, I understand entrepreneurship but there is a difference... I can go create a brand and market it build a company, but If I'm asked about any aspect down to the smallest detail, I can answer because I have ground level experience along with the bussiness mindset. I see lots of people hating cool, I will never hate on anyone who had built something from nothing. No matter if a loan from Jim bob down the road.. 2 options, 1. It sucks and goes bankrupt.
2. They succeed..
Being a business owner myself I started with absolutely zero help and I'll tell ya what, I'd gladly taken a loan to help alleviate the issues.
Even if they look slightly similar, a quick sweep with a DATS would reveal a difference in TS specs. The motors are obviously different.
they really probably aren't much differ, yes the TS specs would be different as every single driver even off the same production line will have different specs.
What is the difference between speaker surround?
I purchased 3 sets of Arnold's from u & I need 1 more set. Is down4sound 6.5 the loudest & clearest?
Yes
I ordered a pair of d4s 65 this afternoon...i thought it was the deaf bonce Arnold 65 oh lord i hope they play the same with low power or better🤦
So what your saying is, and correct me if I'm wrong but they are 2 totally different speakers? And people couldn't figure that out
Not a hater but the frequency response isnt termed 14,000 kilohertz. That doesnt exist. Kilo is 1000, so its either 14 kilohertz or 14,000 hertz. Rock on, JP.
When we going to get a demo vid of the D4S speakers installed in something? Love to hear em
He did one. 🤦🏻♂️
Devil’s Advocate kills me lol
@@TheBoostinbobby haha you see thru the bullshit you must be a hateeerrrerrr😂😂
is the big mac the same as a cheese burger?? they are both made by mcdonalds aren't they??
Haters gonna hate. Just let it go in one ear and out of the other.
It’s a win win video. It educates the general audience while also giving a middle finger to the haters.
Hey jp can you make those on 8 inches
Let the haters hate, all the d4s supports love you and will always be on your side! #d4s for life!
I hate to be a nitpick but at 4:50 pause it and look at the manufacturer of the speakers is the same buildhouse. Yes I know that the same place can build many different products and or versions, but they are very similar motors they have near identical terminal holders I mean the D4S does have a DB (deaf bonce) logo on it. That being said D4S is the shit I buy everything for car audio from d4s I rock the numerous shirts all the time they are awesome quality. And It is a cheaper speaker then the competition all from a good dude so any haters really have no ground to stand on.
Not a hater love what you do but maybe they say that because they are both made by the same company yet still 2 different speakers.
right lol
They are saying they are the exact same speaker, genius. There’s no confusion when haters are running their mouth and talking shit.
@@ThisGuyDrives nothing the same about these speakers only the company that makes them
If those two speakers are the same. Wouldn't all Deaf Bonce speakers be the same just with different names?
@@MegaRcdrifter true but I wasn't saying they were the same only the company that makes them.
Build a damn test bench!! Talk is talk,, you have some great names, i personally have 2 sets of AD DESIGNS 2100 components on a 1500.5 nemesis
Why haters complain? Buy or dont buy but down4sound will continue to grow & exceed. Nothing like excellent ideas, r&d and production. Jp i may not know u personally but i hope i get a free sticker or something for this comment 😜😛
Hi JP!.. Can we get sample test on the D4S Horn drive.? Would be Nice to see it play before decide to purchase
Hey JP I have a Chrysler Sebring convertible what is the best set up to get good bass with my top down pleaseeee someone help need to complete my build by spring
both have the db branding at the terminals
I caught that too. Lmao
them Haters dont know what they talkin about i personally dont know about audio but i can tell what sounds better and has good quality the haters are ragers cause they rage about every thing they see and hate but keep up the good work i love and support your videos
You could’ve started a brand new car audio company that’s never been heard of before and the haters still would’ve said You copied someone else. Haters going to hate.
They both say dB on the side... lol
Why does the terminals say DB? Definitely bad a** speaker just curious
Because they are made by Deaf Bonce.
But why does the d4s speaker have a DB wiring bracket?😂
I had a question what it down for sound speaker do we need a Twitter or are we OK with that one
So yours are made in China? Are the voice coils American?
Bro what part of made in china is so hard to understand lmao
So which one sounds better
That should be 18 kilohertz or 18k hertz and not 18000 kilohertz .respect.i will need to get myself some of those.mids.
is there d4s subwoofers yet?
There are now lol
Let the haters hate! ...free air sound demo between old Arnold and your new brand please? About to order but not sure if i should wait for the arnold and tweeter pack to come back in stock
No mater what you say, haters are going to hate. They are like my 4 year old when I want him to try new foods. If he's already made up his mind that it's nasty. He'll spit it out before he even taste or chews it. So basically your haters have the mentality of a 4 year old and unless you intend on putting them across your lap and spanking them they will never change.
Do you think this will go good on a rockville db55 4000watts amp or i should get a amp of the same company????
Will you be making some mids in the 75-100w range?
Is the D4S speaker a Sylvester?
Mmmmmmmmm.....shake them haters off!!!!
You know you're doing big things when you have to do an explanation video of your products because of the haters..
mattypisme ?
Or when you gotta convince people you arent bullshit. No other car audio company is this unprofessional.
Jangus Roundstone unprofessional? Lol Jesus y’all are blowing my mind. Where does your thought processes come from?
@@THELIFEOFPRICE what's up with the db logo on "your" terminals 🤔
JUST WANNA KNOW DO SUNDOWN AUDIO HAVE TWEETERS N HORNS???
JP why does the D4S have a DB logo on the terminal block?
Are they built for you by DB and speced differently than their speakers so that they are different ?
Explained it all in the prior video lol
can we get a copy of the t/s parameters ?
On the website
What size of sealed box is ideal for one 12 inch, 2000 watts rms sub woofer, model number DB SA302D2 ? Plz suggest
Will you ever have a recone kit for your down for sound speakers
Let them haters know!!!!! I was there for a demo of the work truck2. No competition!!!! The 65's BANG!!!!. FA SHO JP!!!
What does the term proaudio speakers really mean especially in the 6.5 and 8 inch mids
are this mid only available in our shop or will it be a international thing?
You can order them, we ship world wide :)
They are different? Wait, they're round, have black cones, and have dust caps. Boom. Both are the same! Admit it already!
💯FIRE!! Let em" know Mr.JP.
🙌🙌🙌
Same DB terminal 🤔🤫 Fido give me a Noise 🐕💨
Which of these are actually louder?
It clearly states in the box that Both are manufactured by the same manufacturer (ningbo sound solution)
Can u make a review of those d4s 65 , I really wanna hear them before buying them.
Which one sounds better? The down for sound looks better and it seems to have better parts as far as the motor and basket. The frequency response seems to be better as far as the numbers but will it sound better than the other speaker?
I am a newer subscriber and really enjoy your videos. Thank you!
"No guys look its 1mm taller totally different"
😂
I lost It when he said uhh Dust caps are "differnt" that's one thing. No shit? As if a dustcap can't be changed at the manufacturer.
A Trans-Am is not a Corvette. Parts fit but two different leagues.
Saying that they are the same shows lack of knowledge.. Pure ignorance.
@@MadDragon75 I got news for ya, that's not a Corvette if you're putting Pontiac parts on it. A more apt comparison would be, a 05 Corvette to a 06 Corvette
@@MadDragon75 even then Its a stretch, more like a Arnold v3. New surround different mounting plate? Sounds like a v3 to me. Also since this is dbs best speaker now do you think maybe they've created a comparible speaker for vendors in other countries?
are the t parameters the same or something? i would have just stated those instead of pointing out silly things like what the dust cap says..
Of course they aren’t the same lol
not yo biz big dumb...
@@Gizmo_- just saying that you don't need to point out OBVIOUS things when comparing/ trying to say that something you have is diff than competitors.
oh look the dust cap says something different.. well gee i hope so considering they are 2 diff manf of speakers.
a big dumb? lrn2englishkthnksbai
Fuck if they don't look like a spitting image of the DS18 Deluxe3c mids I have in my doors. Other than the cone surrounds and lack of phase cone, it looks like my mids. If they sound anything like my mids, y'all in for a treat. A+
Is the Arnold Neos a step above the D4S65?
More haters you have means the more successful you are in life. I was and an still not a jp fanboy but I have been a sub for years. I have bought stuff from d4s and have amazing results. Cheap and fast delivery. I had a question and jp responded personally and really fast. I say good job making a career and money from the ground up on your passion.
The down4sound speakers are now in stock and shipping! Order yours here www.down4soundshop.com/speakers/down4sound/
Them Haters out their been drinkin to much "HATERADE"!
Who does that saying these 2 mids are the same which they are different ah did I miss something here :D LOL
Get Em' JP! Show em what you're working with!
@@TheBoostinbobby I would have. But your gibberish persuaded me to watch something else.
Maybe next time. 😏👍
I've always been told The ones that think they know it all usually know nothing.sundown audio is the best
Sounds like you know alot apparently. Fanboy!!
Well ive had mtx, pioneer, kicker, kenwood and now I have sundown audio. There's no Competition. Sundown audio buts them all the Shame
@@kevinkeller1313 sounds like you owned low end subs then jumped to Sundown. Yes youre right, the brands you named dont come close to Sundown subwoofers... but compare them to DC Audio, DD, Xile, Crescendo, RE Audio, Orion, DS 18s and even some Skar Audio subs and i bet youll see that Sundown is not the only one with quality superior subwoofers.
@@kevinkeller1313 DC Audio is my go to... i personally run 2 DC Audio lvl 4s (great SQ plus SPL) on a 4k with RE Audio Components front and back on a DC Audio 175.4 (@2 ohm 250 rms per speaker). 270 alternator plus 2 Kinetic 2400 bstteries. My subs get 2k rms a piece and never clipped once.
I'm run 600 kenwood amp on 2 12 sundown audio. Going to add another amp and two more 12 . When I get the money
Why thy got the same deaf bonce terminal though lol
Just to say to haters keep on hating JP and JP will continue to not care.
He cares lol, more than anyone else in the industry. Nobody else is making stupid ass videos like this. Literally, nobody in the industry caters to such child like behavior.
lol the D4S is a basic clone of the DB speaker, damn even uses almost the same terminal and motor! Yeah different logo and surround and basket its like a Chinese clone, same factory lol! Not same but a shameless clone!
Dude DEAF BONCE Makes them both. It’s a different line Not a clone. No company clones they’re own shit g. That’s like a m3 being a clone of a 3 series Bmw lol
@@vatican35 I doubt deaf bounce makes either of them. They almost all use 1 or 2 different Build houses. Jl audio does there own manufacturing and there is prob a few others. (That explains the pricing) Doesnt make them the same. With a 100 different components offered by one build house you could make 1000 different speakers with something different. Its just easier to use a proven combination of components that in this cause db spent the time combining and then modify from there to make it look different or change the performance to a way you like.
Sundown and I'm sure 1 or 2 other companies help design a new component and then get a 6 month or 1 year exclusivity agreement on that component before other companys can order it. That's a example that was the case with the last sundown sa baskets.
But y the terminals on the d4s says DB
Happy for you JP may have to get these for the next project.
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@JONATHON PRICE Can D4S recommend an amp/sub set up for passenger car under 1000 watts out of your inventory? We’re friends on fb but I can’t comment to you. Hoping you can answer me on here.
Good thing you have everyone who made the subs information so you can middle man it to us.
If your buying pro sound type mids your just trying to be loud.Why does it matter??