The Sculk Sensors Huge Hidden Potential
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- Опубліковано 3 жов 2020
- Minecraft 1.17's 'Caves & Cliffs' Update adds the brand new 'Sculk Sensor'; using vibrations to detect movement and sound, this redstone device is very exciting. But if it's designed just right, it could be one of the biggest additions to redstone ever.
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Programmable Sound Listeners? Yes please.
Getting these jazzy-fungi-dubstep-slabs would be Decked Out on its own!
Decked out would be OP.
Decked out but you can’t win because clank is actually detected by your steps
Tango I'm begging you please put Wardens into decked out when 1. 17 comes out
With theses and the new warden mon decked out will somehow be even more awesome!
This sensor looks like its straight out of a "end revamp" type mod
Yeah, this block fits the end theme better than the overworld, but I like how it adds mystery to the deep.
yeah and that's what I don't really like about it so far
@@bowiemtl its only dev art, the artists will change the look eventually.
MrCatling I don’t mean the texture but the end like vibe they are trying to give it.
Bowie te Loo I feel like the vibe is kind of like an overgrown hive mind. Kinda like you would see in stranger things
imagine just minding your business, humming a peaceful Minecraft day in a server. and you just break some wood to finish your house. and suddenly, a thermonuclear bomb explodes.
your name is way too fitting...
*EEXXUUPUROSIOOOOOONN*
Megumin you can already do this by trapping the bottom wood block
I'm gonna make a replica of the dead hand if you don't know what that is it was made by the soviet union and if it detects a nuke on it's soil it launched the entire nuclear arsenal towards the us
Ah - a fellow weeb
I could imagine something like “Sir, our sculk sensor has detected that you have went faster than the speed limit, do you have any idea how fast your minecart was going sir?”
Yo be fair this could be done.
COPS Minecraft Edition
@@phishb8 the player can willingy slow down the cart
Love these ideas! :)
Blessed to see you follow another redstone genius
So much possibilities for the sensor!!!!
Oh hey Mr.
10 MINUTES 4 REPLIES 25 LIKES BABY
mumbo could make an automatic spoon dispenser with these ideas!
If the skulk sensor can detect a fishing bobber catching a fish, that means we now have proper automatic afk fishing farms once again that work with treasure loot
yes lol
watch them immediately take that out lmao
but if they did actually do that, it'd be amazing. since the block is probably mid to late game given its environment, ark fishing would at least be balanced.
It would likely also detect the rod being cast and any bobs that aren't caused by fish, I don't think it would work very well.
@@kieranboulton3953 there are three sounds for casting a fishing rod: one for casting, one constant low sound for the fishing bob staying there, and one for when it catches something. assuming the skulk sensor isn't set off by the constant low idle sound, you could have a t-flip flip situation where the redstone doesn't activate when you cast but it activates when you catch, since those sounds always alternate
@@gouchnox3437 Didn't know they were different, that's pretty cool
Me: puts on a helmet
Skulk sensor: *PRIMARY WEAPON SYSTEMS ONLINE*
Sarc: "Sculkexa someone's in the base"
Highway to hell starts playing on note block while wall panels slide open revealing swords, axes and various bows.
Oooh lookin forward to that when it releases on ps4
*It’s literally a highway to hell*
*_[epic]_*
@JaustasG ACDC really is a pillar of classic rock if you know what I mean.
@JaustasG This seems like a job for a stereotypical JoJo fan!
normal people: yay cave update
SimplySarc: *so you see, you can use the sculk sensor’s hidden feature to initiate photosynthesis to create wireless inter-dimensional redstone contraptions*
he already made inter-dimensional redstone lol
Mumbo: >.>
with other youtubers, this would be a funny comment. but only with simplysarc has he ALREADY DONE IT...
“Simply”sarc
So creating inter dimensional redstone with a process used by all plants
Okay, the taming idea seems incredibly versatile! Even if explaining ot to a newer player would be super Hard, but thats pretty much all of redstone nowadays
"Ok so this is my pet alien-fungus-slab. He's really into dubstep, but I swear if you play any jazz, he's gonna freak..."
well whoever trained that skulk did a pretty bad job then
@@SimplySarc So play pigstep, not stal
@@SimplySarc Oh man I forgot you could train them to like/dislike jukebox songs
@@SimplySarc *casually grabs saxophone*
I highly doubt that Mojang will implement a “sound whitelist or blacklist” for these sensors, but the idea is pretty interesting.
One potential of that idea is that you could use a parrot’s imitation of another mob’s ambient noises to simulate it for the sensor, so it can learn them, without taking the risk of bringing a monster into your base. From there you may be able to develop a system where parrots can detect virtually any hostile mob and from there, create a system that locks them out should they approach your base. Or maybe even set up an alarm so you’re aware that one is inside.
That’s a really cool idea, I like how your giving parrots a more useful feature
That's an amazing way to make parrots useful! There will be some problems with mob autentication and such so this would be a really good solution
the closest to coding them that i can see being implemented in vanilla is letting you tune them to note blocks by having the same type of block under both the sensor and noteblock but i can see that also being awkward to use in gameplay
Well mojang did say that they had discovered the potential for wireless redstone, so i can totally see them looking at the community's suggestions and implementing some kind of viable system
That would be great especially when the parrot triggers an explosion by making a zombie sound it would really give meaning to "pesky bird"
Wait so you are thinking of when you put on armor the base could be like
“Yo there is a fight happening let’s lock up the base,for safety”
or to bring out the tnt canon
If sculk sensor's are able to detect noteblock sounds and produce signals depending on the tone, you would basically be able to make radios in Minecraft.
you genius
Basically antennas
except in order to go more than a couple blocks you would need more note blocks that fire the same tone as the original.
@@StaticNebula26 Well within the range limit it's still a wireless signal, with multiple signals
StaticNebula26 Different trapdoors, like in the demonstration of wireless redstone, could be used, or more notebooks along the way, like an actual radio transmission but a touch slower and more audible. Maybe think of it as something like a broadcast system then, for games, alerts, music, and so on.
Let me guess, he retextured a stonecutter?
smart
A slab with a plant on it
Always has been
Yes
Probably
"The base knows you're getting ready to fight and brings out the heavy artillery"
This is the Minecraft equivalent of Google Home/Alexa
deploy claymore roomba
Deploy LMG romba
Deploy rocket roomba
Deploy the thermonuclear roomba
This sounds incredible. Let's do what we did with honey blocks, and let the devs know what we want!
Get it "sound"
+@@gabemerritt3139
Heh. Heh.
Hidden base entrances just reached a whole new level.
No more hidden buttons, or redstone torch switches, or grass path detectors. Equipping armour is now enough to open a door.
This is madness and I love it.
Not even. Imagine placing a unique block that has it's own placement sound to open a base. So imagine placing an anvil then removing to open and close a door/base. Crazy ain't it
Etho made a door that only opens if you’re holding a golden carrot, so thats pretty close. Creatures can act as sensors.
Nick Wilson can I have a link?
I'm gonna make a dead hand if you don't know what that is it was a device created by the soviet union and if it detects a nuke on it's soil it will launch the entire nuclear arsenal on the us
@Elisha Davis you walk up to a secret jazz club, security guard asks you for the passcode and you just blast stal at 'im and the door opens lmao
I want Scicraft to wait for this update before updating the server. This block could be wild for their creations.
It doesnt look THAT useful, and it apparently murders performance, so we probably wont be using it much. Sadly new versions just have so awful performance that it makes it very very hard to justify updating.
@@oreolamp5676 it really depends on how you get it and how it works for me. If it's not craftable I'm probably not gonna use it
@@thechto-to3151 How you can get it IMO makes absolutely no difference as long as its renewable, how it works does. Item cost really isnt a factor as long as its in some way renewable.
but they can't collect the special blocks from the versions 1.13-1.16.3
@@oreolamp5676 the optimization of Minecraft has literally been improving with every update
I swear, if this actually happens, jshlatt will force someone to trigger an explosion or something when stal is played
i dunno, kind of a dead meme at this point.
@@moose5660 It's not a meme, he'll probably actually do it.
@@moose5660 he still hates stal
Sounds like something boffy would be more likley to do
Probably boffy too
Imagine this:You are walking across a minecraft world. You see a chest in a house and approach. As you open the chest, you hear an explosion. Panicking, you run into a nearly hole to escape, but still take damage. Thinking you're finally safe, you go to eat a steak. This was your final mistake.
Misteak
@@wybbo4870 GENIUS!
Oo
Damn I am curious af and hyped for the cave uptade but I don't wanna spoil myself and discover the new features while exploring, the struggle
It's, at minimum, half a year from now. Have fun trying not to get spoiled lmao
same
In my opinion getting spoiled makes it better cause I know what's different and what to look for when the update comes out.
@@kingskew4950 That's a point I should apply to other things in life. Thank you.
Same bruh, I tested out every single 1.16 snapshot so by the time 1.16 actually came out I was bored since I already saw everything
IT WAS ANNOUNCED YESTERDAY HOW ARE YOU THAT FAST?!?
Welcome to the channel
@@hotdog0275 We're talking about the Sarc that rarely uploads, right?
@@TheRenegade... he's uploading more recently
You can tell the videos he rolls out quicker because he doesn’t have the cool as hell thumbnail art
This was a lower effort vid than usual which is ok. U can tell by the cuts, editing, and thumbnail
You just predicted Skulk Sensor comparator feature, wow
In addition to your idea, what if Mojang added a “sound capture” item so you could record and play any sound you want. This would make training far easier and could be cool to scare player with a creeper sound for example.
Alright, let's just capture the Ender Dragon death sound and blow out everyone's ears
Someone else suggested using parrots, which can already serve that purpose to an extent.
maybe craft said thing with a jukebox and some honeycomb wax, like a phonograph?
Yeah, this would revolutionize the game. I'd be so happy if this was the direction they took.
Lol they are doing that
@@steveminecraft4364 yeah
They announced this block at Minecraft live
We have absolutely no reason to believe this is the direction they're going with this block. All we know is that the block exists and responds to certain in-world events in a particular area of effect by outputting a redstone pulse. Sarc has suggested a specific implementation of this component that I'm fond of.
homestuck profile picture!
There are a couple of things I feel are not taken into account in this video:
- The vibration is not specifically tied to soundevents. The only things that trigger it are large movements or impacts. Not even mob noises activate it, only low frequencies.
- When they said the Skulk Sensor "lives" underground, they were saying that because it is a plant, or perhaps some sort of fungus. It is not remotely sentient.
- Why wouldn't wool occlusion work? If you block all sides but one, it will only hear sounds that come straight from that cardinal direction and not from any slanted angle. Seems pretty specific to me.
you are totally right. I commented this elsewhere. Also in the video you can see a little particle effect going from the "loud sound" events to the block, which I felt clearly meant to indicate that this was a new thing, not the sound engine.
PS sounds aren't blocked by any blocks in minecraft, let alone wool. They didn't overhaul the sound system to include occlusion. They added a new system. It would be INSANE to dramatically slow down the entire sound system to work like an advanced lighting system with occlusion when the game itself doesn't even have such an advanced lighting system for its light.
To the last bullet point, he meant specific as in differentiating different sounds themselves, not so much where sounds are
@@crazedvidmaker what do you mean? Do you know how minecraft's code works? It might be using the sound system and after it knows about sound it just makes raytrace from sound to the block and checks if it encounters wool and cancel it if it does... Its not anything advanced or heavy... Its very simple code mate
Yeah. If you are wondering of something as simple as a wirless door which I feel mosst people would use the sensor for (without using Pressure plates), you can just block everything but one line
Although, what he's saying can revolutionize the game. But what he's saying is also not very important for people who play alone in a world. It will only really come in handy on multiplayer servers
Only checking for sounds in one direction and checking for different sounds isnt the same though, huge difference there and they could both be combined
Fun fact: they fed Sculk Sensors in WWII with lots of bonemeal so that they could detect incoming German aircraft across the English channel
Haha stone ear go brrrrr
Literally anything: exists
Redstone engineers: I can milk you
These are some great ideas, I just hope that the sculks potential aren't ruined or blown way out of proportion, they're offering a great amount of control of detection with this, and it's up to the community to give them feedback and ideas to make that a reality. Personally, I think covering all your redstone with wool ruins the elegance and simplicity that you can have in redstone, making any device that includes it, slightly clumsy.
A worthwhile trade-off for redstone builds that are large or long enough maybe? For already small build it might not do a lot to shrink the amount of redstone behind the walls but if the build is big enough it might be useful to remove then unnecessary lines of detectors or redstone dust or repeators? We'll just have to see what it might bring
maybe if we had something in the form factor of a trapdoor, just a thin sheet that blocks the sound but without making things clunky and covered in full blocks.
You literally get wireless redstone, some wool is hardly non-elegant when compared to the usual mess of restone wires
@@MidnyteSketch well, I considered that too, but that kinda also ruins the elegance of redstone, likes, certainly it compacts things, but now you have to design a carpet block that can stick to any block and not stick out. The other option is that maybe we make "quiet" redstone components, like a "quiet sticky piston", but even so, that's a bit rediculous to have most redstone components doubled for the sake of one mechanic. Maybe it would be cool if you just couldn't right click on a piston with a carpet or wool and then it turned into the quiet piston and when you break it, you get a piston and the wool back, seperatley. But anything more complicated than that and it undermines that simplicity rule of redstone. But I guess applying a sheet of wool to the block itself or certain sides might be a worthwhile idea.
@@rompevuevitos222 well, over long distances, yes, but currently, the only reason you'd want wireless redstone is just because you can have stuff go in between it. We can see it travel in the demo, which means that it's already slower than observers, which, (unless this has changed, maybe I haven't been keeping up) is 1-tick speed, literally the same tick that it's activated, and for as far as you want the signal to travel too, because it doesn't require a repeater
Sculk look dope
Top comment
Pog moment
Skulk hear step
Yes
Skulk be memed
im 90% sure thats a retextured stone
cutter but lets role with it..
roll*
@msc op means that the sculk displayed in this video is a retextured stone cutter, so it can be shown even if not released yet
The like/dislike mode system is actually a really good idea.
With that feature if they add it I'm gonna make a dead hand if you don't know what that is it was a device created by the soviet union and if it detects a nuke on it's soil it will launch the entire nuclear arsenal on the us
thats the best idea ive ever seen
@ ik it is a good idea to make it like sounds
It is a good idea. Doesn't really fit vanilla in my opinion, but not sure how else to implement the sound triggers though
And we could maybe be able to pet it without hurting it
So... I can make an alarm system for intruders?
...
*"INTRUDER ALERT! A RED SPY IS IN THE BASE!"*
There is an imposter among us
MOVE! MOVE! Hut! Hut! Hut! Hut!
@@otterax2617 sorry, wrong game reference.
Intruder alert! Intruder alert! All trops proceed to, fuck! Proceed to room 125!
A RED Spy is in the base?
I thought you're actually on 1.17 until i noticed that the Sculk Sensor is just a retextured Stonecutter
Done prob. on purpose, as some sort of clickbait :/
@@qpalzm563 Not as clickbait, this is how sarc always does it. Unless he wanted to code the entire thing from scratch, this is the best he could do for demonstration purposes.
@@qpalzm563 what part of the video qualifies for a "clickbait" ? all he's doing is talking about ideas and how the Sculk Sensor could potentially works. it's not one of those "I FOUND THE SECRET REDSTONE COMPONENT IN MINECRAFT" with a guy doing a 'shhh' post in the thumbnail.
context matters. and you know what else matters? learning how to use words and terms correctly, in the appropriate context.
Lorenzo likely it was done to make what he was saying more visual. People tend to learn more when they can see along with hear, so just hearing him talk about this would not be as informative.
@@qpalzm563 "clickbait" nice joke buddy
Me: "I hate mining in survival"
Mojang: *"ha ha sculk go brrr"*
Warden go.....
And goes
He gone
Brrttt
Warden:"ur free trial of existence has expired "
Javed Shvt
Haha warden go 🧟
@@CameronKujo imagine finding a warden and a cave sound plays 😳
Skeleton: (makes rattling noise)
Sculk sensor: (hears the noise and activates)
Jukebox: (begins playing megalovania)
Ayyoooo you should play papyrus's or sans's theme or something instead of that one, that's for metaton
ThanksSans
@@warpspeedscp what?
@@makoto433 it's an undertale thing. Go play it or something
@@warpspeedscp no, you’re talking about megalovania being from mettaton?
Using classical conditioning/Pavlovian methods to have targeted interactions within the minecraft world seems really cool. I think it would be awesome if we have instruments added in the future as an alternative to noteblocks that we could use to trigger specific sounds/signals.
Edrin Abrigo i like your funny words magic man
Maybe simple ones that go along with Minecraft’s aesthetic, primitive/original ones like bongos or ukulele, both not using wires or more modern technology another one could be tambourines or Maracas
Noteblocks already have the ability to change sound depending on what block they're above. Instead of making new musical blocks, they should just add new block functionality to the noteblock. Perhaps the different wood types could trigger unique sounds, eg bongos for jungle wood or something.
@@Kapin05 I think Edrin was suggesting instruments as a handheld sound producer.
I have an idea, and it sorta functions like the Note Block.
With the Note Block depending on what block it's sitting on, it will make different sounds.
With the new Sculk Sensor, you can use wool to block sounds from certain directions.
My idea is that all blocks (with the exceptions of blocks like redstone related blocks), will all block/filter sounds just like wool does, and each and every block will have a whitelist/blacklist of sounds that can or cannot be transmitted through the material. With all the blocks in the game you could almost easily filter every sound if not all, or each and every block can be a category of sounds.
Maybe if you surround a Sculk Sensor with Note Blocks, for example, you could only trigger the Sculk Sensor with notes from Note Blocks.
Wool would be a block that just filters all sound, and each colour of wool could also have different effects, like filtering quiet sounds but allowing louder sounds.
Also, your Comparator strength idea isn't a mutually exclusive idea and can be combined with yours and my ideas (or anyone's ideas).
Just imagine this, the Sculk Sensor emits a signal based off of the distance the vibrations traveled to the Sculk Sensor, but if you use a Comparator it changes to emitting a signal strength based off of pitch instead of distance/loudness. Combined with ether taming or filtering with blocks (or both?)
Tell me your ideas of which blocks would whitelist/blacklist which sounds.
I give you my thumbs up.
This makes way more sense then his.
This sounds like such a good suggestion. However, blocks that let through player movement sounds should be pretty obvious so that traps still require some effort.
Idea: new block to go with it, like the Hives and Camp Fires, the "Vybro" (VI-bro) Block. It has a sort of interface with two modes: Allow, and Deny. Give it a Signal to start recording the sounds for the mode. Green Dye is input to enter Allow Mode, and Red Dye for Deny. Shut off the signal to stop recording. This info is stored in the block like a Shulker Box.
Crafting it: It requires a 3×3. Top Left, Top Right, and Bottom Row is any Stone variant. Top Middle is a Skulk Sensor. Middle Left and Right is a piece of Quartz each, and the Center is a piece of Redstone Dust.
Placing and Mining: Like most craftables, this can be placed on any surface. To link it to a Skulk Sensor, place the Vybro Block beneath. To mine, you need at least a Stone Pickaxe.
This is such a simple and elegant solution, I love it! Please, add this to the Minecraft Feedback page, would love to see it in game.
I think cave blocks like stone should not have this feature because it could hinder the Warden capability of hearing the player through walls (or maybe allow walking, mining sounds to go through and others not?)
Well. Your comparator idea was true.
What most people are thinking about: Bluetooth red stone
What I’m thinking about: A U T O M A T I C E G G L A U N C H E R
yes
This would be the easiest repeater yet for pistons and such. Just slap it on top and boom
You mean redtooth
I thought of a power grid.
Y E S
This is an absolutely brilliant idea! Teaching the skulk to respond to specific sounds would be a revolutionary game mechanic
From a programmer perspective: no.
Teaching the skulk would mean that minecraft would have to store hard data in a single object. An example of this would be if you tried to store a mob inside a chest. Chest items don't despawn, they get archived as information and trigger a certain pattern. That's why there was a glitch that overflowed chunks, because chest store hard information.
Apply this to a block that can store hundreds upon hundreds of different variables and it will become basically a buggy mess that would give you more problems that solutions.
it doesn’t need to store analyzed sound data, no ml algorithms need to be included in this lol. all that’s needed is a reference to the sound file that was played during training
@@KilometersVI great, that's literally the definition of storing data.
How'd you think the skulk would know which sound profile is good and which is bad? It just magically recognize it without storing any data during the "Training"?
@@tale7955 since apparently you need this to be explained: one sound id is less data than a full ML training dataset. stunning
@@slice-the-pi one. I'm glad you understood this guy wasn't talking about storing more than... Wait a second!
1.16 : afk fishing is nerfed
*skulk sensor peaks around corner
“Allow us to introduce ourselves”
I think Mojang saw this vid
I hope
yeah but they obviously skipped 5:43 ...
My friend: breaks some dirt
Me not knowing what is about to happen: hey that sounds li-
My house: *K A B O O M*
If 2b2t updates and i join, imma make it so that elytras make my house go boom, or the sound of a shulker opening
Not going to lie, this “taming” systems sounds incredible (see what I did there?).
It’s like you suddenly discovered radio and how to detect it accurately.
A “vibestone” contraption could be very loud, but considering you can change the pitch and sound type of the noteblock people will be able to make cool machines with pretty songs when they function.
Imagine being able to tell what your contraption is doing by the sound of it, almost like a car.
Petition to call red stone using this new stuff “vibestone” from now on?
@@haldalas By the power of the internet your petition is granted!
@@sspectre8217 Wow the whole internet? ... I feel like I should have used this power for something a little more significant, but I'll take it.
@@haldalas - the internet probably
@@chrishansen1842 The real Chris Hansen? wow
because vibrations have speed, if you put two sculk sensors next to each other, they will output in the same tick only if the sound is in between both of them
Meaning you could make a GPS system on a really small scale. Which would be a cool proof of concept.
@@ashtonhoward5582 If you had a grid of them underground, as well as pistons with them, they could form a chain towards your base that makes a path with the pistons. This would be viewable on one's map. Of course, this specific usage might be somewhat pointless, but using sculk grids could have other more interesting usages.
So this could also be Sonar.
@@DuelScreen Oh, absolutely! You could have a room in your base that's just a tiled surface, and pistons extend when they sense something in your area.
Okay so imagine: youre on a server, and youre going to your froends house, you walk through the front door and the lights shut off, you hear pistons activating in the background, and then realise that its the floor on the other side of the room being retracted, you try to escape but the floors suck you in before you can break the obsidian walls, and you fall down the hole, where the floor opens up at the last second and youre inside, with your friend standing there to greet you
They should add some sort of wool boots so when your walking around you don’t activate it
So... socks?
@@wybbo4870 Y e s
I think “vibrations” are just interactions with the environment (specifically the ground), placing/breaking blocks, stepping/jumping on the ground, tossing something (a snowball or other projectile) that hits the ground/walls.
Nice mistborn profile pic
Mistborn? This is from the video game Dishonored. Though Mistborn is also fantastic.
Ah shit, i misidentified. Mistborn IS great though
Yeah this makes sense, because the Wander also didn't hear the player throwing a snowball, only it hitting the ground. But still, this isjust work in progress so they could end up liking this idea and make skulks hear air vibrations as well
Yeah, unfortunately it seems there's a lot less to the skulk sensor than people are thinking. Granted, it still has a ton of applications, just might not quite be as revolutionary as people are thinking.
I think you might have misunderstood the ability of the Skulk Sensor. It detects vibration, not sound. For example, when they showed off The Warden, it noticed the sound of the snowball landing, and not the snowball being thrown, which also emits sound. Footsteps would cause subtle vibrations in the floor, which would be detected by the Skulk, but shooting an arrow (assuming the arrow never lands) would not be detected, since it doesn't vibrate the ground, and in turn, the Sensor.
I cant tell if this is going to be obvious to you or not, but in case it isn't... there aren't actual vibrations in minecraft. They've added a new system which is meant to mimic vibrations... just making sure that's clear.
@@crazedvidmaker Not only that, but none of these people bringing this talking point up are considering the fact that sounds are vibrations. Their arguments don't make any kind of sense. Their point of views are also not rooted in how games would really be programmed either.
@MettaurSp at least you and I can agree on this one haha. I think this person is just young; let's give them a break.
Sure yeah in real life sound waves and vibrations in solids are both vibrations... but as you and I both point out that doesn't really matter since its a game not real life and the way sound and vibrations are implemented in minecraft is nothing like that anyway
sounds are vibrations
@@joshua_bluemoon8683 actually not. Its a sound if the vibration hits our ears and the brain translates the vibration into a sound.
Imagine taking a stroll back to your house and start eating when all of a sudden
Shia surprise
"You are walking in the Woods there is no one around and your phone is dead..."
Imagine trying to defuse a trap but the actual red stone is somewhere else haha
Yeah! Custom event handling for redstone: the next advancement. It would add so many features and could do long requested things like weather sensors and player only detectors
What I would like to see is something (maybe warden) creating a sound to high or to low a frequency for the player to hear, but not the sculk sensor. Maybe a variant of the sculk sensor that plays back the sound heard, so you can have a line of them in a wool tube that could act like a radio.
I would make so it just ignores a sound it doesn't like but so if the sound is a sound it likes, it will output a stronger signal, and keeping the idea of getting the actual volume of the sound through a comparator.
You can kind of make your own wireless redstone if you throw an item into a Nether portal, which is going to activate a pressure plate, and create redstone power that will be extended up to a dropper that will throw another item into another Nether portal, which will do the same pressure activate action, which will activate a fire charge cannon and activate TNT from that distant point.
*The only question left is:*
*Why hasnt Mojang hired you yet???*
Engineer02 y not you
cuz they would have to pay him.
Because Mojang wants their feature to be limited and the game to develop at a snail's pace.
Please deposit five coins
Please deposit Please deposit five coins COIN
I love this addition! As a small redstone youtuber, I feel like everyone has done what I'm trying to do, and better. With a new game changing addition, it levels the playing field to the point where my original ideas might actually help a player out!
Damn, Sarc predicting the future for fun.
I love every single Idea you had. Good job man
TWO Sarc videos within the span of a few days?! Truly the year is looking up.
I love it, I feel the "dislike" mode would be unnecessary, could just teach a different sound to the sculk sensor to remove the previous sound
The "dislike" is actually a blacklist mechanic so instead of making the skulk only work with one sound it will work with every sound except one
@@takeo_624 oh okay, that could be cool
Let's say you want it to detect when you finish eating. In order to play that sound, you would also have to play the eating sound effect, so it would be impossible with only a "like" mode. You would need to add "finished eating" and "eating" to the whitelist and then just "eating" to the blacklist
The nice thing about the sculk sensor is that if it's really the sound engine, mojang already has vars /| lists for sound location origins, so if any show up the sculk sensor just needs to test its radius, and won't be too hard to add.
This is an awesome bunch of ideas! Especially the ability to "tame" a sensor!
This is amazing!
By the way, Mojang announced this as wireless Redstone before Minecraft Live had started.
Pufferfish activated redstone has been a thing for a while.
being able to program the sensors to a specific sound would be INCREDIBLE, I feel like, for balance purposes, only one sound per sensor once it's programmed would be good. Maybe they change colors to reflect they've been programmed? and maybe breaking and replacing it reverts it to normal?
sound effects could set off a red stone signal
hausemaster: *laughs in 2b2t*
I want the skulk to work like that soo bad
When they said that it lives in the caves, they meant that it is a plant. Being alive doesn't require sentience.
Ye but for the sake of his ideas it makes more sense if it was.
maybe sculk sensors are "baby" wardens that never "grew up"
or a fungus, more likely
Complex interactions don't require sentience either, just emergent behavior. Plants have already been demonstrated using pretty complicated survival techniques like reaching for light, doing anything that carnivorous plants do, reacting to seasonal environmental changes, etc. Reacting to special ways to different kinds of sounds wouldn't be anything out of the ordinary because nature is far weirder.
Yes that is very true, but “lives” is an interesting choice when they could of said “Grows”.
Such cool ideas. I'm not sure about the implementation, but having sound filters would be amazingly useful.
Holy cow Sarc, I love your ideas!
The warden can be used for redstone when you think about it.
hehe pressure plate go *plink*
infinte power with a warden, piston, shulk sensor, and pressure plate
@@pogchomp5570 YES
That was fairly quick
Yeah, that makes a lot of sense a lot of Redstone is limited to space, and how Redstone can interpret Minecraft adding this kind of stuff would just be so great.
Great vid. They are some great ideas. Well done.
The block being tamed is a bit much, I think having different kinds of occlusion would be enough. For example: wool = blocks all sounds, glass = blocks all footstep and entity sounds, haybale = blocks all block sounds etc.
this sounds like an even better idea
I think you missed the part where there's a little animation when an event occurs that triggers this new block. A little thing flies from the player to the block. Clearly, then, this doesn't use the minecraft sound engine. Certain events like walking, falling, levers, and pistons, have been explicitly programmed when theyre in the vicinity of this block to generate this animation, and if the particle gets blocked by wool then the event is cancelled.
That doesn't mean it doesn't use the sound system. It'd be stupid to code an entirely new system to determine sound position when they already have one.
All that should be is taking the position of the sound from the sound system, spawning a particle, and having the particle travel in a straight line to the block's position.
It shouldn't be that hard to go from 'make particle effect when a sound happens' to 'make particle effect when this sound happens'
@@comet.x you didn't explain how wool blocks it. It does not block sound in minecraft. So it isn't the sound that triggers the device, its whether or not there is a free path from the triggering event to the block.
If they happened to decide to put the piece of code that triggers this in the same place as where sounds are made, that would be a pretty disorganized way to code it but that's possible I guess, but in any case, it's clear that "whether or not you can hear a sound" isn't the criteria that triggers this thing, and in that sense, it isnt just using the pre-existing sound engine.
Moreover certain sounds dont trigger this thing, so it definitely isn't just "if I can hear sound activate," and it isnt coded like "make sound and also trigger nearby things"
it's coded like "hit the ground -> make a sound and attempt to trigger nearby things"
@@comet.x if you think that's dumb then you haven't seen much of mojang's code........
@@crazedvidmaker There are quite a few big holes with your posts.
Easy solutions to how wool can block it: either ray casting to the sculk block from the sound event location with only wool white listed, or a particle spawns every time a sound event goes off in range and the particle despawns when it hits wool to stop it from reaching the sculk.
You claim putting sculk behavior in the sound system is disorganized, which is true, but then you say that putting it in every single other place in code that generates a sound is a reasonable solution when it is unmaintainable as hell and not scalable. However, you don't actually need to put the code in the sound system to interpret events from the sound system. That is what event systems are for: decoupling code. You just need an event hook in one single location that doesn't necessarily have to be in the sound system itself that listens for a specific kind of event, then filters out irrelevant events with various kinds of heuristics like range/distance.
Here's some pseudo code to demonstrate just how easy a sound system based solution is vs the solution of writing case by case event processing code everywhere else in the engine:
function OnSoundEvent(eventData)
if (!CanAffectSculks(eventData.SoundID))
return
for (sculk : GetNearbySculks(eventData.Entity.Position))
if (sculk.IsInRange(eventData.Entity.Position))
sculk.FireParticle(eventData)
end
All of the things you mentioned are non issues to any moderately experienced game programmer. The kinds of implementations that you suggested would only be implemented by university freshmen.
@@mettaursp309 You ran into exactly my point. either you program something simple that implements this logic, or you upgrade the entire sound system to work as ray tracing... when the lighting engine in the game isn't run on ray tracing. You suddenly increase the processing power that the game takes by a factor of a few hundred and you have to hire maybe 10 programmers just to implement this. No I don't think that's how it works...
And no, it's not in every place in the code that makes sound. That's the whole point. I bet you anything these things will only be triggered by specific events - a small list of redstone components, player hitting the ground, and player walking at full speed. Not lava pops, not other mob sounds, not water sounds, etc. etc. etc. I don't think you realize how many sounds there are in minecraft and only about 10-20 of them will actually trigger this thing (and the new mob that also works on this new system)
Good job SimplySarc about explaining everything. I also want to give an idea. The skulk sensor is basically wireless redstone. It can react to vibrations , including from levers. If you watched minecraft live , you probably have seen the chain reaction how a lever was pushed and a signal was sent to the skulk sensor , sending that signal to another skulk sensor , and forever until it reaches a redstone like block. Flipping the lever a few times or in a pattern for example , dot dot dot doooot dooot dooot dot dot dot can be done and hence create : Wireless Communication!
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"Dungeon Crawler"
Tango I'm looking at you
I'm imagining huge huge things here. Y'all know those videos of doing basic calculations with redstone? Well if the redstone strength is based on distance, you can triangulate the exact coordinates of a noise with 3 sculks. If you tune into footsteps, you could track players from underground. Given enough time to set up of course :/
"lives" doesnt imply its sentient in the slightest.... trees are alive, so is grass and everything. i think this thing is more like a plant, like a venus fly trap, than an animal or anything like that
The sculk sensor is so useful, I can’t wait to invent new ideas and see all the possible new farms, doors, etc.
I mean, this 1.17 update is gonna be one of the largest (possibly the largest current gen)
I mean, it is *the* cave update we've been asking for,
You always make features sound so incredibly awesome!
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...Okay, now I'm just imagining all the potential of 'smart' bases in Minecraft.
I just want to say the ghast alarm system is an EXTREMELY GOOD IDEA
6:10 !that doesn't mean it is setient, they even said it in the livestream that it is a growth
The sculk sensor is almost like a survival mode command block if they actually implement it this way, which is insane!
Ah I see your bad at commands
What do you mean?
just because a guy thinks that sculk blocks are survival command blocks you don t need to call them bad at commands
This is absolutely a phenomenal idea. I had thought to link a note block and sensor together based on the block theyre sitting on, like it will respond to a note block so long as it is within its range and is on the same block, but your idea is much better.
Damn, now that I realise, someone with enough commands knowledge can make a sneak game (like Metal Gear or Splinter Cell)
really interesting to see physical low-pass and high-pass filters in minecraft!
I assumed rather than off sound that it just has vibrations as a new layer.
I would love to see your take on the whole archeaolgy aspect of the reveal and how you could see it being implemented best. What could be done to prevent it feeling like a random mod that was accidentaly mixed in.
Because, while I appreciate the spirit behind archeaology dig sides, I certainly am not alone in considering it out of place, almot shoehorned even.
This is very in depth I love this
Skulk sensors are legit just fungi who detect stuff for the warden, not animals
KitKatrina it’s called an observation for a reason too.
“They added 5g to Minecraft”
Carson king
Ok, farm idea:
You make a normal water pushing spawned farm, and you put a sensor somewhere else, with wool around it, except for the direction that the signal is coming from. Then you connect that signal to repeaters, so that the mobs have time to get to the end of the water stream. You the push pistons behind the zombie, dispense a bucket of lava, and picking it up immediately, and then get the loot though a hopper. There you go, the most overcomplicated mob farm EVER
You, are a frickin genius. Well done.