When I did the cam swap on my 02 LS1 Camaro, it wouldn’t run unless I left at least one of the O2 sensors unplugged. I figured it had something to do with the open loop and closed loop. Once it was dyno tuned, it was fine. It wasn’t great running before the tune but at least with the o2 sensor unplugged you should be able to drive it around until it is tuned.
Man, this made me feel better. I just spent the past month rebuilding the top end and doing a cam swap only to have it run like dogshit. Haven't done the tune yet so this is a load off my back.
Hi I just wanna say that crane cams makes a mild cam for 5.3 ls motors that they claim works with the stock tune but its very mild it also works with factory valvesprings
Big Greg sparks not everyone is looking for huge power gains a few extra horsepower is all some people are after to wake up a tired engine to have fun with it you genius 😒
@@phillipthomas5133 yeah, and bolt on parts add more power than a tiny cam that uses stock valvesprings lmao. My gen 2 lt1 I built is still just 350 cubes, but will dyno around 435 rwhp
Big Greg sparks you made your point and I understand where you are coming from but there are still people out there who might just be looking from the tiny horsepower gain from the small cam to simply have fun with
Great video! In case you want to know, The reason it seemed to run "ok" until it warmed up was because up to that point there were several different fuel and ignition multipliers that were being used as well as a higher idle speed for engine warm up. As soon as it came to operating temp, those multipliers were phased out and thats when you started having issues. This is the same reason you dont start dataloging for your tune until operating temp is reached. 😉
Bad Luck Garage well explained. Alot of guys arnt near understanding of the type of stuff that goes on inside computer mapping. Good way for the average guyvto understand. Warm up map, open loop vs closed loop andso much more
random question for you bud, if i put a cooler running thermostat in my truck would this affect the fuel and ignition multipliers? say for example if those multipliers phase out at 180 degrees or 210, and i put a thermostat rated at 160 would they never phase out?
base idle airflow - 15-16 across the board. base idle 700-775 add a few more degrees of idle timing to help with the rev hang (bring revs down quicker) as well as cruising timing on decel. thats what i did on my truck. LQ4
I’ve been running my cam for about 3 months without it being tuned to the cam. It had a tune on it before I put the cam in with blackbear and mine runs damn fine for having indiana weather. May die every now and then but so far so good. This is just temp till I can find a tuner but sounds good man love the truck!
Nice work! I had the bright idea to go WAY over the top with huge cam, heads and intake only to spend the next 2 years figuring out how to get it to run right. I feel your pain brother. It's a learning curve. It's on my channel. I forewarn you, it was fimed with a potato. Nice work man!
So, I did the same thing on a tahoe. The stock tune anyway. The IAC has trouble figuring out idle, but eventually it figured it out. Obviously it needs a tune, but just thought I’d chip in... for no real reason. But the cam I used doesn’t have a narrow lsa so idle quality isn’t much off stock.
Hey try a stock LS1 tune I have a 99 trans am I swapped a LM7 in to it when my LS1 ate a couple of bearings 216/220 .560 114lsa flat top pistons 10.25:1 compression and home ported 862 heads all I did was adjust throttle body opening. She runs very good but a tad rich but she passes smog and everything can't wait to get a tune to see how much more power I can get out of my setup.
SniderTron 3000 also when I looked at my fuel trims the ecu seemed to compensate for being rich, I'm in Cali and was still able to pass the sniffer test. I guess what I'm trying to say is that the LS1 tune is more forgiving because it was made for a larger displacement,
It's the exact same principle as if you took a carburetors car and put a cam in it and did nothing to the carb settings or the timing. Surprise! It won't run. All obd2 is is a fancy carburetor and distributor, so what your doing when you tune is the same thing as turning the mixture screws out, setting the timing and adjusting the idle speed, only instead of a screwdriver and timing light you use a laptop.
Micah well. It depends on how you look at it, if you want to have a bigger cam it will make your engine run differently, if you don't want to tune then it's going to make your engine run poorly. If you put a cam in there has to be some degree of tuning that goes with it, the only tune free cam is one identical to the one you took out, or mmmaybe slightly different.
Grady Farrer it isn't that I don't understand fuel injection, the question at hand was about putting in a big cam and keeping a stock tune. You can't do it for the same reason why you can't take an old carburetor car and put a big cam in it and not touch any adjustments on the carb or the distributor. Either way it isn't going to work. As complex as fuel injection is, it all boils down to air and fuel, and as complex as electronic ignition is, it all boils down to timing.
Did you do the AFM delete kit or did you just tune the truck so I'd didnt use it anymore? I'm completely stumped but really want to get my truck cammed asap
Thanks man your vid helped me a lot, I had the same issue with my 1998 Tahoe, I added FPR to maintain the fuel pressure up when I put it in gear and that kinda fixed it, but I lost the converter.. lol... I swapped it to manual transmission NV4500 and got it tuned, now it idles better with no stall.
Thanks for your vids man. I have a 2001 gmc sierra extended cab. I am building another 5.3 that a friend and me pulled from an avalanche. I'm just cleaning it up, putting all new rings bearings and a cam in it to swap into my truck. Where do you get that tuning software and how much is it?
Thanks for trying and recording this! I'm about to cam my silverado but I already have intake,headers and a custom tune so idk how bad I will need another tune after the cam swap or if I should bite the bullet and get a hp tuner and start to learn myself
6.2silverado depending on the cam you go with, you'll probably need to get it tuned. Otherwise, even if it does run and drive, you'll be leaving a lot on the table, you know? And, I'm all for learning new things, thats the whole reason I got HPTuners. BUT, it is a big learning curve and kind of overwhelming at times. A wideband O2 sensor is a definite must for tuning that I haven't gotten yet.
I used the stage two Texas speed truck cam in my 1999 camaro z28 and was able to drive it to the tuner probably because it’s a 346 on the dyno with hp tuners I made 349 hp 348 tq to the wheels these cams are very underrated oh and I live in Utah so I’m sure at sea level it would be a monster I keep thinking I should of gone with stage 3 but I shift at 6200 and that’s all the 4l60. Can take any higher and you kill the transmission doesn’t like 6500 lol
SniderTron 3000 ahh I see idk if you had a chance to see my videos yet. But the video right after the tune with my truck in the driveway. That’s with the ac on and the chop changes and then goes back to chopping. But in the other with it off. It just chops and chops. So idk if that was just with me and my truck or other people with my cam also.
Mic. D I'll definitely check out your videos. I'm definitely not an expert with tuning, but my first thought would be with the AC on the rpm raises just enough to float right above that really choppy idle. If that makes sense.
SniderTron 3000 ahh that definitely makes sense now. Cause that exactly what it does. Rolls for a bit then drops back down and chops. But that’s something a tuner could adjust? Is it hard tuning it? Saw that you do your own tunes
Mic. D yeah, setting the idle is super simple. I only started tuning my own stuff because I'm super cheap. To get a road tune near me is like $600. But I am going to be making a bunch of gradual changes and I didn't want to pay $3-600 each time I changed things. So, I just bought the HPTuners for $660. But, my truck has so many little issues that it's a lot of bunny trails to fix one thing lol
Hey I know this is an old video but I wanted to ask you about your truck. I'm doing a 5.3 swap in an 85 S10 that will be kind of a daily driver. I'm trying to make a cam selection that makes good power sounds good but yet is pretty streetable for daily driving. how does the cam you use in this video work for day-to-day driving? What other modifications have you did to your engine or is it fairly stock? Factory truck intake? Higher stall converter? Also your truck sounded awesome what kind of exhaust were you running?
This was stock converter and intake for a long time. If your mostly gonna drive it around, almost any "stage 1" or "stage 2" cam will be great for that. I think this Texas Speed Low Lift Stage 3 Truck Cam was great though. Good sound, good response, good power. It was about the limit for a stock converter
Look at the new BTR Truck Norris cam. Makes more torque down low than any of the Stage 1-4 truck cams, and only a little less top end peak HP. Works with stock converter. For a truck you want a cam that makes torque rather than peaky high end HP.
man its over a hundred degrees and like 97 % humidity where im at but at least i dont have kids playing with,what are those weed eaters? across the street from me.lol damn all that snow,i wish it would snow here in tx this winter.
Hi man I have a 5.3 2002 lm7 I want to put a tsp stage 2 low lift cam.. I will use the engine with manual transmission.. What need to do with p to work? I have already remove vats. End turn to manual
Love the truck just put a very similar cam and set up in my pick up. What are the chances you have a pre supercharger tune file that worked well for you to get me rolling.
Haha I've made the same poor financial decision😂 I've got it idleing decent but it's an absolute turd. I haven't come across anything on hptuners that says it's a running tune. Ide be interested in trying one of yours seeing you were able to light them up with the stock converter. Cheers
nice video n infermation 1:15 music end ye al ;} thanks for this video i need to buy a tuner asap..my thought it neould up eds more fuel that clue is up to temp is leans the tunes so yes must tune them in a pinch one COULD plug a temp sensor out side the truck so to fool it but theses newer car have more that one and thats means to figure if to fool it it may be 2 of them ill bet it just one coolant temp sensor though needed to fool it but unless u have a air fuel gauge to do maul tuning one could lean it n still ignition timing is a minimal issue
I'm swapping an LQ9 and 4l80 into my 88 Silverado. Where can I find a chainsaw cam like yours? Sounds kinda "choppy" at idle even after you turned it off
What's the biggest cam the 5.3 can get without having to reflash the ECU? Would it even be worth it to upgrade that little without changing the ECU? I've got a blown head gasket or cracked head so I figure if I'm down that far, I might as well replace the lifters. That got me to thinking about the cam. I'll already have it apart so I'm just kicking around ideas.
I think the stock cam size is like 191/190 .457"/.466" 114LSA and the BTR Stage 1 cam is 206/212 .525"/.534" 114+2 which seems like a pretty decent jump to still run on the stock tune. I think the biggest you could do is another factory cam, but even then you'd still be leaving a lot on the table. Like an LS6 cam would probably work, but to me it's not enough of a power gain to be worth the effort
SniderTron 3000 yeah, if I'm going to remove all that stuff, I want to feel it in the seat of my pants. Changing the cam out and remapping is one of those things that is just on the "wouldn't be cool if I did...." list, so I thought I'd ask. Thanks for answering back so quickly.
it probably wouldn't die down of you unplugged the o2 sensors. that would keep the pcm in open loop. seems like it didn't like the cam once it went into closed loop.
That's a pretty interesting idea actually. If it were to make it keep the cold start enrichment long enough, then I could see it working as a temporary thing. Either for a short drive or at least getting it on a trailer.
Hey I watch a lot of your other stuff. I in the middle of putting a 300+hp 4.8 in my Subaru outback wagon with a 5 speed. A choppy cam would be sweet. Did your engine run alright or did it lean at higher rpm?
Okay so say I cam swap my 4.8L and the only tuning options that I have are the regular pre programmed tunes in a performance tuner, would that work or do I actually need a custom tune???
Those would get you close enough to be able to drive it and enjoy it. Those guys should have a lot of tunes from similar vehicles, they'll just use one of those
My 2012 is now paid for. I have cold air, tb spacer, headers, and tuned. I bought the cam, waiting to do my tune up before install. How much is your tuning set up. I plan on making a lot if changes to the truck and it gets pricy going in and out of tune shop.
SniderTron 3000 That's what I was thinking. I found the pro version packaged with the AEM wideband at Scoggin Dickey for $738. So I bought it. We shall see how it works.
Junior Garvin its a Texas Speed 216/220 .550/.550 112LSA cam. All I had to change was the valve springs. I used LS6 springs. I've got another video where I do that if you want to check it out.
Seen u had a 216/220 550: degree. Was looking to get a 220/220 600: so which would you prefer. Currently have headers cat delete ls2 intake . Ported throttle body cold air intake with a octane 93 performance tuner on bully dog. I do want that choppy idle lope
SniderTron 3000 I don’t want to go as far as changing my converter yet. I also plan on doing a few other mods before I send my pcm to get tuned. So what’s your opinion on what lift I should have and my stock converter is 2800 stall I think
Derrick Greb if you want/need to drive it for a while still. The smartest thing would probably be swap in like a 3k converter and whatever else it is you want to do because it'll most likely still run just fine with those mods. And then once you have a few days or so to send the pcm out for tuning, that's when you should do the cam swap. That's not what I would do, but it would probably be the most economical since you could still drive it, you know? If its a stock converter, it should be around 1200-1600 stall. Just do the foot brake test and you'll get a good idea.
SniderTron 3000 Ok thanks I may go with the tsr 220/220 600: bc I don’t have to touch the valve springs. Do u have anybody u recommend that does pcm tunes?
Snider tron3000 hello there I've done some research & some modification to my 03 suburban 5.3 like spectre air intake, efan, magnaflow,cats deleted with tunner & 26“ wheel match with Tunner now I would like to put an LS9 cam do I need to change springs gor that & can I run it like this w/o tune for a while thank you in advance?
Once you get it, its super simple. You go into a little menu and you just uncheck the box for the code for it and then save that and load in that tune. You'll get it 🤙
hey man what size pushrods did you use? i did the same cam on my 6.0 and i have "valve train noise" i cam deff hear it echo through the LT's and also i had it tuned and when i start it it kimda falls on its face like it searching for idle then evens out. no "cold start idle" any ideas?
no it's constant from cold to warm temp same noise. doesn't sound like a tap or a knock just a slight ticking noise. i talked to a performance shop locally and they said the lq4 is a noisy engine because of the aluminum heads and then adding lt headers just makes it louder.
Jonathan Jarquin the winters fucking suck here in MI, but the summers definitely make up for it. And not having to get any inspections on vehicles is nice lol
I wonder if a newer truck with the electric throttle body would be able to learn and adjust after a few minutes. I put a cam in my 2005 Cadillac CTS-V and it would die like that but after a little while it adjusted the idle and ran fine. I hope that's the case with my 2006 Sierra because I'm thinking of doing a cam and I'm gonna have to drive it to the tuner! It may be a different situation because my CTS-V obviously had a manual trans.
Christian Lopez the difference before and after the cam? Yeah, it's really noticeable. Before, the truck would launch good and then fall on it's face around 4,500 rpm. Now, it pulls up to 6k and spins the tires easily.
Great video! Hp tuners is great software you’ll find the sweet spot in no time if you run into any snags I’d be happy to look over your file if you’d like
Elliott Kirkman oh, man. My tune is probably horrendous to anyone who knows what they're doing lol I just keep trying to different things and seeing if it likes it or not
SniderTron 3000 when I first started tuning I quickly found out that the tune repository on hp tuners website was my friend you can get a good understanding of what goes on within a tune for a cam swap
Elliott Kirkman yeah, I go through there a alot and see what other people are changing on their setups and how it reacts. I've tried a few of other people's tunes with similar mods just to see how my truck reacts.
Snider My car is GMC Sierra 2000 i put come camp & Ls6 sipring with long headers paesster. My car when i move me leg from gas is off like your car. Regards
In the VE table I decreased the airflow by like 15% or whatever and kept playing with the idle airflow until it would stay running. It's a lot of trial and error
When I did the cam swap on my 02 LS1 Camaro, it wouldn’t run unless I left at least one of the O2 sensors unplugged. I figured it had something to do with the open loop and closed loop. Once it was dyno tuned, it was fine. It wasn’t great running before the tune but at least with the o2 sensor unplugged you should be able to drive it around until it is tuned.
You may not be a turner but you good enough to make it driveable..great job
Man, this made me feel better. I just spent the past month rebuilding the top end and doing a cam swap only to have it run like dogshit. Haven't done the tune yet so this is a load off my back.
The tune fixed it. It's badass now.
All i kept thinking was did i line up the timing right 😂😂
Sammmeee!!!
Me 3 😂 I'm over here switching injectors and coil packs. Good thing I have a couple engines so I have lots of parts. Did any of you guys get a p0300
@@JMASON-qy7ki after the Blackbear tune, the only codes I had pop up were O2 sensors.
“And here we have hp tuners pro because I make bad financial decisions”😂😂
Hi I just wanna say that crane cams makes a mild cam for 5.3 ls motors that they claim works with the stock tune but its very mild it also works with factory valvesprings
@@phillipthomas5133 then it won't add much power
Big Greg sparks not everyone is looking for huge power gains a few extra horsepower is all some people are after to wake up a tired engine to have fun with it you genius 😒
@@phillipthomas5133 yeah, and bolt on parts add more power than a tiny cam that uses stock valvesprings lmao. My gen 2 lt1 I built is still just 350 cubes, but will dyno around 435 rwhp
Big Greg sparks you made your point and I understand where you are coming from but there are still people out there who might just be looking from the tiny horsepower gain from the small cam to simply have fun with
Great video! In case you want to know, The reason it seemed to run "ok" until it warmed up was because up to that point there were several different fuel and ignition multipliers that were being used as well as a higher idle speed for engine warm up. As soon as it came to operating temp, those multipliers were phased out and thats when you started having issues. This is the same reason you dont start dataloging for your tune until operating temp is reached. 😉
Bad Luck Garage agree with you here you have your like 👍🏽
Bad Luck Garage amen
Bad Luck Garage well explained. Alot of guys arnt near understanding of the type of stuff that goes on inside computer mapping. Good way for the average guyvto understand.
Warm up map, open loop vs closed loop andso much more
random question for you bud, if i put a cooler running thermostat in my truck would this affect the fuel and ignition multipliers? say for example if those multipliers phase out at 180 degrees or 210, and i put a thermostat rated at 160 would they never phase out?
Sounds like "hot for teacher" by van Halen on start up lol
killfase01 yo wtf it does I have never even heard that song just looked it up because you Mentioned it
LMAO I thought the same thing
base idle airflow - 15-16 across the board.
base idle 700-775
add a few more degrees of idle timing to help with the rev hang (bring revs down quicker)
as well as cruising timing on decel.
thats what i did on my truck. LQ4
goldeneye4564 I'll give that a try and see how it does. Thanks
Can you help me get a tune for my 5.3 with a sloppy stage 2 cam and pac 1218 springs
Duh, when it hits 180 it goes into closed loop and runs off the computer instead of static cold tables.
With hp tunners can even delete the O2 sensor. Amd tune it for the actual cam
I’ve been running my cam for about 3 months without it being tuned to the cam. It had a tune on it before I put the cam in with blackbear and mine runs damn fine for having indiana weather. May die every now and then but so far so good. This is just temp till I can find a tuner but sounds good man love the truck!
If you fix the headliner it will run better.
Don Rutter but, then I wouldn't look as tall 👌👌👌
Looks like that good ol Michigan weather!!!
It depends on how big the cam is. I put a LS3 cam in my 2007 5.3 no tune it runs fine. I realize I'll get more power if I tune but it runs
Andrew Johnson that is 100% true, I should've said that in the video.
And what stock parts in ur truck did you upgrade so the cam could run effectively?
what sleepy asked ^
It really amazes me when I see so much snow haha greetings for California!! Great vid 👍
Thats gotta be one of my favorite sounding cold starts. Easily.
Nice work! I had the bright idea to go WAY over the top with huge cam, heads and intake only to spend the next 2 years figuring out how to get it to run right. I feel your pain brother. It's a learning curve. It's on my channel. I forewarn you, it was fimed with a potato. Nice work man!
That's how a real man removes snow from a vehicle!
I don't even try to keep my vehicles nice anymore lol
Sounds like an old cammed Chevy bigblock at first 😂
So, I did the same thing on a tahoe. The stock tune anyway. The IAC has trouble figuring out idle, but eventually it figured it out. Obviously it needs a tune, but just thought I’d chip in... for no real reason. But the cam I used doesn’t have a narrow lsa so idle quality isn’t much off stock.
Hey try a stock LS1 tune I have a 99 trans am I swapped a LM7 in to it when my LS1 ate a couple of bearings 216/220 .560 114lsa flat top pistons 10.25:1 compression and home ported 862 heads all I did was adjust throttle body opening. She runs very good but a tad rich but she passes smog and everything can't wait to get a tune to see how much more power I can get out of my setup.
Hmm, that's interesting. I might look into the differences between the tunes just to see
SniderTron 3000 also when I looked at my fuel trims the ecu seemed to compensate for being rich, I'm in Cali and was still able to pass the sniffer test. I guess what I'm trying to say is that the LS1 tune is more forgiving because it was made for a larger displacement,
The chain saw s in the back ground give s it a nice touch . Hahaha.
It's the exact same principle as if you took a carburetors car and put a cam in it and did nothing to the carb settings or the timing. Surprise! It won't run. All obd2 is is a fancy carburetor and distributor, so what your doing when you tune is the same thing as turning the mixture screws out, setting the timing and adjusting the idle speed, only instead of a screwdriver and timing light you use a laptop.
so is that good or bad
Micah well. It depends on how you look at it, if you want to have a bigger cam it will make your engine run differently, if you don't want to tune then it's going to make your engine run poorly. If you put a cam in there has to be some degree of tuning that goes with it, the only tune free cam is one identical to the one you took out, or mmmaybe slightly different.
Not even close to the same thing. Fuel injection can make adjustments on its own
When people that don't understand EFI try to to make it simple enough for them to wrap their head around, their explanation becomes laughable
Grady Farrer it isn't that I don't understand fuel injection, the question at hand was about putting in a big cam and keeping a stock tune. You can't do it for the same reason why you can't take an old carburetor car and put a big cam in it and not touch any adjustments on the carb or the distributor. Either way it isn't going to work. As complex as fuel injection is, it all boils down to air and fuel, and as complex as electronic ignition is, it all boils down to timing.
Did you do the AFM delete kit or did you just tune the truck so I'd didnt use it anymore? I'm completely stumped but really want to get my truck cammed asap
This truck didn't have AFM. I don't think that started until like 2006 or 2008
@@SniderTron3000 I was told my 05 silverado with an LM7 would have it. Maybe I've been worried this whole time for nothing, haha
@@IceRhino44 www.silveradosierra.com/tailgate-talk/afm-when-did-it-start-t580337.html
@@SniderTron3000 thank you so much for the link! It clears everything up!
Thanks man your vid helped me a lot, I had the same issue with my 1998 Tahoe, I added FPR to maintain the fuel pressure up when I put it in gear and that kinda fixed it, but I lost the converter.. lol... I swapped it to manual transmission NV4500 and got it tuned, now it idles better with no stall.
Yeah, I'd love this to be a manual but I just don't feel like doing the work lol so I'll probably just throw a 3k stall in it
@@SniderTron3000 you should tho like nv3500 with a remote shifter and a duramax console
Thanks brother. .. solidified...!!
Thanks for your vids man. I have a 2001 gmc sierra extended cab. I am building another 5.3 that a friend and me pulled from an avalanche. I'm just cleaning it up, putting all new rings bearings and a cam in it to swap into my truck. Where do you get that tuning software and how much is it?
Thanks for trying and recording this! I'm about to cam my silverado but I already have intake,headers and a custom tune so idk how bad I will need another tune after the cam swap or if I should bite the bullet and get a hp tuner and start to learn myself
6.2silverado depending on the cam you go with, you'll probably need to get it tuned. Otherwise, even if it does run and drive, you'll be leaving a lot on the table, you know?
And, I'm all for learning new things, thats the whole reason I got HPTuners. BUT, it is a big learning curve and kind of overwhelming at times. A wideband O2 sensor is a definite must for tuning that I haven't gotten yet.
Do you think it would run better with a 212/218 cam, are do you think you would still need tunes.
Could you just unplug the wire to the temp sensor until you get it tuned? This would leave the engine in rich mode for cold starts.
I used the stage two Texas speed truck cam in my 1999 camaro z28 and was able to drive it to the tuner probably because it’s a 346 on the dyno with hp tuners I made 349 hp 348 tq to the wheels these cams are very underrated oh and I live in Utah so I’m sure at sea level it would be a monster I keep thinking I should of gone with stage 3 but I shift at 6200 and that’s all the 4l60. Can take any higher and you kill the transmission doesn’t like 6500 lol
Nice to see someone else with my cam. I have vids with it before tune and after. Does you chop change when you turn the ac on?
Mic. D ish, but that's just because I have the idle set at 50 rpm higher with the AC on.
SniderTron 3000 ahh I see idk if you had a chance to see my videos yet. But the video right after the tune with my truck in the driveway. That’s with the ac on and the chop changes and then goes back to chopping. But in the other with it off. It just chops and chops. So idk if that was just with me and my truck or other people with my cam also.
Mic. D I'll definitely check out your videos. I'm definitely not an expert with tuning, but my first thought would be with the AC on the rpm raises just enough to float right above that really choppy idle. If that makes sense.
SniderTron 3000 ahh that definitely makes sense now. Cause that exactly what it does. Rolls for a bit then drops back down and chops. But that’s something a tuner could adjust? Is it hard tuning it? Saw that you do your own tunes
Mic. D yeah, setting the idle is super simple. I only started tuning my own stuff because I'm super cheap. To get a road tune near me is like $600. But I am going to be making a bunch of gradual changes and I didn't want to pay $3-600 each time I changed things. So, I just bought the HPTuners for $660. But, my truck has so many little issues that it's a lot of bunny trails to fix one thing lol
Witch hp tuner are you using? I've got a 2004 GMC with the 5.3 and would love to try tuning it.
Sounds like someone is revving the little red car in the background.
lol Nah, some loggers were chopping up a bunch of trees in my field
LOL
May have already been asked but did you have to shave the 2500 hood or is someone online finally selling them cut for a Gmc?
Hunter Vetticus yeah, I had to cut it myself.
SniderTron 3000 Well crap I guess wishful thinking got the better of me then. Surprised nobody makes a preform yet. Looks good though man.
Hey I know this is an old video but I wanted to ask you about your truck. I'm doing a 5.3 swap in an 85 S10 that will be kind of a daily driver. I'm trying to make a cam selection that makes good power sounds good but yet is pretty streetable for daily driving. how does the cam you use in this video work for day-to-day driving? What other modifications have you did to your engine or is it fairly stock? Factory truck intake? Higher stall converter? Also your truck sounded awesome what kind of exhaust were you running?
This was stock converter and intake for a long time. If your mostly gonna drive it around, almost any "stage 1" or "stage 2" cam will be great for that. I think this Texas Speed Low Lift Stage 3 Truck Cam was great though. Good sound, good response, good power. It was about the limit for a stock converter
Look at the new BTR Truck Norris cam. Makes more torque down low than any of the Stage 1-4 truck cams, and only a little less top end peak HP. Works with stock converter. For a truck you want a cam that makes torque rather than peaky high end HP.
man its over a hundred degrees and like 97 % humidity where im at but at least i dont have kids playing with,what are those weed eaters? across the street from me.lol damn all that snow,i wish it would snow here in tx this winter.
I have a 08 Silverado 5.3 with a 6l80e would a cam be too much for my stock transmission?
Romi Frentescu no
Nope, they can handle a pretty good amount according to the people who have them
What if you unhooked the intake temp sensor to ecu? Should tell the ecu it’s freezing out and to add extra fuel
Thanks im getting a very similar cam installed and was wondering if tuner would have to come or not. Guess he will.
I’m getting a 232/234 cam and I have a pretty good street tune done do you think it would turn off at idle ? Or would i have to re tune it
If your tune is with a stock cam you'll probably need it retuned, but idk for sure if it would turn off at idle.
could have unplugged cts would have put engine in a state of constant open loop causing it to run with more fuel
Are you running stock injectors?? And what size cam are you running? Working on an ls build right now
This was with stock injectors. Cam is a TSP low lift stage 3 truck cam
Hi man I have a 5.3 2002 lm7 I want to put a tsp stage 2 low lift cam.. I will use the engine with manual transmission.. What need to do with p to work? I have already remove vats. End turn to manual
Sounds awesome great vid
Yes did it run great for 5 years and still is. Only remote tuner
Love the truck just put a very similar cam and set up in my pick up. What are the chances you have a pre supercharger tune file that worked well for you to get me rolling.
If you have HPTuners, just go to the Tune Repository and you can find some that will be better than my trash lol
Haha I've made the same poor financial decision😂 I've got it idleing decent but it's an absolute turd. I haven't come across anything on hptuners that says it's a running tune. Ide be interested in trying one of yours seeing you were able to light them up with the stock converter. Cheers
can you put a cam with no springs i got a cam for $100 with no springs on ebay thats why im asking
Depending on the cam size
AWESOME video Man
Like the truck videos. What size wheels and tires on it? Got a 2000 gmc 4.8 looking to do small stuff to it.
The wheels are 17's from a later year GMC. Front tires are 255/60r17, rears are 275/60r17
nice video n infermation 1:15 music end ye al ;} thanks for this video i need to buy a tuner asap..my thought it neould up eds more fuel that clue is up to temp is leans the tunes so yes must tune them in a pinch one COULD plug a temp sensor out side the truck so to fool it but theses newer car have more that one and thats means to figure if to fool it it may be 2 of them ill bet it just one coolant temp sensor though needed to fool it but unless u have a air fuel gauge to do maul tuning one could lean it n still ignition timing is a minimal issue
That's some good info to know thanks
I'm swapping an LQ9 and 4l80 into my 88 Silverado. Where can I find a chainsaw cam like yours? Sounds kinda "choppy" at idle even after you turned it off
It's a Jegs Part #6942069 "Hawg Ass Cam"
@@SniderTron3000 F***ng A
What's the biggest cam the 5.3 can get without having to reflash the ECU? Would it even be worth it to upgrade that little without changing the ECU?
I've got a blown head gasket or cracked head so I figure if I'm down that far, I might as well replace the lifters. That got me to thinking about the cam. I'll already have it apart so I'm just kicking around ideas.
I think the stock cam size is like 191/190 .457"/.466" 114LSA and the BTR Stage 1 cam is 206/212 .525"/.534" 114+2 which seems like a pretty decent jump to still run on the stock tune. I think the biggest you could do is another factory cam, but even then you'd still be leaving a lot on the table. Like an LS6 cam would probably work, but to me it's not enough of a power gain to be worth the effort
SniderTron 3000 yeah, if I'm going to remove all that stuff, I want to feel it in the seat of my pants.
Changing the cam out and remapping is one of those things that is just on the "wouldn't be cool if I did...." list, so I thought I'd ask. Thanks for answering back so quickly.
What stage cam are you running, and are you using stock pushrods?
TSP 216/220 cam, stock pushies
What are your cam specs.?
Crickets
it probably wouldn't die down of you unplugged the o2 sensors. that would keep the pcm in open loop. seems like it didn't like the cam once it went into closed loop.
That's a pretty interesting idea actually. If it were to make it keep the cold start enrichment long enough, then I could see it working as a temporary thing. Either for a short drive or at least getting it on a trailer.
I can not decide on what cam I want 🤦🏻♂️ so many choices
Trey W same dude I have put so many cams in a online cart so many times I think I’m gonna go with a Texas speed 220r cam
Lingenfelter
I did a LLT2 from Gwatney Performance and the AFM delete.
Do I have to do the DOD/AFM delete on my 2015 Silverado. Whoever can help me with this swap I'll pay them 500 cash
RIP starter lmao
This is good video. Good info. 👌
Is it possible the type of cam is to "radical" for the stock tune? Maybe a milder cam would work? Idk.
Yeah, that exactly what it was.
Hey I watch a lot of your other stuff. I in the middle of putting a 300+hp 4.8 in my Subaru outback wagon with a 5 speed. A choppy cam would be sweet. Did your engine run alright or did it lean at higher rpm?
Once I got the tune figured out on it it ran great N/A
Okay so say I cam swap my 4.8L and the only tuning options that I have are the regular pre programmed tunes in a performance tuner, would that work or do I actually need a custom tune???
Those would get you close enough to be able to drive it and enjoy it. Those guys should have a lot of tunes from similar vehicles, they'll just use one of those
@@SniderTron3000 awesome, good deal thanks brother man!
My 2012 is now paid for. I have cold air, tb spacer, headers, and tuned. I bought the cam, waiting to do my tune up before install. How much is your tuning set up. I plan on making a lot if changes to the truck and it gets pricy going in and out of tune shop.
When I say tune up I'm going with msd wires and coil packs and platinum plugs
Sorry, just saw this. The HPTuners I have is about $650.
Nice truck, what size wheels are those?
AnthonyJ350 they're 17's. I think 17x7, maybe 17x8.
SniderTron 3000 Ok cool, they look big on a lowered truck. Truck sounds great btw
AnthonyJ350 Thanks, man. I always love it when people appreciate the beater lol
Love this video! I’m fixing to make a poor financial decision also
Where did you buy ur HD grill I'm trying to buy one for my 05?
Great video man. I also just purchased HpTuners Pro for my LQ4 swap into an 07 Silverado 4.3 5 speed. I wasn't sure how else to tune with a wideband.
You can tune with the stock narrowband, but they really will only tell you stoich. Which doesn't help with WOT lol
SniderTron 3000 That's what I was thinking. I found the pro version packaged with the AEM wideband at Scoggin Dickey for $738. So I bought it. We shall see how it works.
I've got the same cam and on stock tune it wouldn't idle after a rev and had to drive with both feet also sounded really choppy until after the tune
silverlowdo ## that's how this was. While it was cold it would idle. But, once it warmed up and you revved it, it would die.
Which cam and what other upgrades did you have
What size cam is it? What other component upgrades did you do along with the cam?
Junior Garvin its a Texas Speed 216/220 .550/.550 112LSA cam. All I had to change was the valve springs. I used LS6 springs. I've got another video where I do that if you want to check it out.
SniderTron 3000 Thanks I will look at that other video..
You still running the stock converter And if so how does it act with that cam around town and when its in gear does it try to pull
Dwaine Bryant yep, still the stock converter. It does pretty well actually. I've been driving it for a while now with the cam and stock TC.
SniderTron 3000 it’ll only last for so long lol mine finally went out after 6 months of running my stock converter
Seen u had a 216/220 550: degree. Was looking to get a 220/220 600: so which would you prefer. Currently have headers cat delete ls2 intake . Ported throttle body cold air intake with a octane 93 performance tuner on bully dog. I do want that choppy idle lope
Derrick Greb I'd go with the bigger cam since you've already laid the groundwork
SniderTron 3000 I don’t want to go as far as changing my converter yet. I also plan on doing a few other mods before I send my pcm to get tuned. So what’s your opinion on what lift I should have and my stock converter is 2800 stall I think
It’s a 2007 Yukon 5.3
Derrick Greb if you want/need to drive it for a while still. The smartest thing would probably be swap in like a 3k converter and whatever else it is you want to do because it'll most likely still run just fine with those mods. And then once you have a few days or so to send the pcm out for tuning, that's when you should do the cam swap.
That's not what I would do, but it would probably be the most economical since you could still drive it, you know?
If its a stock converter, it should be around 1200-1600 stall. Just do the foot brake test and you'll get a good idea.
SniderTron 3000 Ok thanks I may go with the tsr 220/220 600: bc I don’t have to touch the valve springs. Do u have anybody u recommend that does pcm tunes?
What program are you using to tune? How much was the program?
HPTuners, it's $650
I’m looking for a basic tune for after my cam to give me time for Dino I have hp tunner would u be able to creat me a base tune I’ll pay
Ik this video is old but around how much am I gonna pay for a tune?
Truck sounds awesome. I'll cam swap my truck some day
Me too lol
Did you do it?
Is it a stage 2 cam if so I’ll like to buy your tube from you
What exhaust do you have ?
None its just straight piped
Yes the good old brap brap brap
Do some snow donuts in that thing
Some snow nuts
Snider tron3000 hello there I've done some research & some modification to my 03 suburban 5.3 like spectre air intake, efan, magnaflow,cats deleted with tunner & 26“ wheel match with Tunner now I would like to put an LS9 cam do I need to change springs gor that & can I run it like this w/o tune for a while thank you in advance?
ls1tech.com/forums/generation-iii-internal-engine/1861984-ls9-cam-5-3-a.html
Ps for got my suburban a flex fuel e85.
SniderTron 3000 looking in to this appreciate
hey bud can u make a video on how to tune out the o2 sensors and egr im going to by a hd tuner but need alittle help doing so.
Once you get it, its super simple. You go into a little menu and you just uncheck the box for the code for it and then save that and load in that tune. You'll get it 🤙
hey man what size pushrods did you use? i did the same cam on my 6.0 and i have "valve train noise" i cam deff hear it echo through the LT's and also i had it tuned and when i start it it kimda falls on its face like it searching for idle then evens out. no "cold start idle" any ideas?
I have the stock pushrods in mine. You swapped valve springs, right?
SniderTron 3000 yes ls6 blue springs
I wonder if your lifters are bleeding down. It only has noise when you start it up, and then after a couple minutes it's good?
no it's constant from cold to warm temp same noise. doesn't sound like a tap or a knock just a slight ticking noise. i talked to a performance shop locally and they said the lq4 is a noisy engine because of the aluminum heads and then adding lt headers just makes it louder.
i have 317 heads 3 angle valve job ls6 blue valve springs 216/220 550/.550 111lsa. 1 3/4" headers. lq4 in a 2002 2500hd
I think I’d hate to live where there’s snow. I Love Los Angeles CA. OH And I love the stickers on the laptop. Nice truck and nice video. Keep it up.
Jonathan Jarquin the winters fucking suck here in MI, but the summers definitely make up for it. And not having to get any inspections on vehicles is nice lol
I wonder if a newer truck with the electric throttle body would be able to learn and adjust after a few minutes. I put a cam in my 2005 Cadillac CTS-V and it would die like that but after a little while it adjusted the idle and ran fine. I hope that's the case with my 2006 Sierra because I'm thinking of doing a cam and I'm gonna have to drive it to the tuner! It may be a different situation because my CTS-V obviously had a manual trans.
I have no idea on that. I haven't looked into the drive by wire stuff too much. I'd start with searching on some forums
Old post I know. But what cam did you run in the ctsv?
@@coupe50h nothing crazy. It was just the GM Hotcam, which are made by Comp
Love the vids man
Christian Lopez I appreciate it, man
Can you tell the difference on it ?
Christian Lopez the difference before and after the cam? Yeah, it's really noticeable. Before, the truck would launch good and then fall on it's face around 4,500 rpm. Now, it pulls up to 6k and spins the tires easily.
Can you send the link to the one you bought pls ?
Christian Lopez I have it linked in the cam swap video, which is linked in the description of this video lol
Great video! Hp tuners is great software you’ll find the sweet spot in no time if you run into any snags I’d be happy to look over your file if you’d like
Elliott Kirkman oh, man. My tune is probably horrendous to anyone who knows what they're doing lol I just keep trying to different things and seeing if it likes it or not
SniderTron 3000 when I first started tuning I quickly found out that the tune repository on hp tuners website was my friend you can get a good understanding of what goes on within a tune for a cam swap
Elliott Kirkman yeah, I go through there a alot and see what other people are changing on their setups and how it reacts. I've tried a few of other people's tunes with similar mods just to see how my truck reacts.
If FLEX FUEL, then yes, no problem, because of lambda circuit and mongo-size fuel pump
sounds like my C6 z06
Snider
My car is GMC Sierra 2000 i put come camp & Ls6 sipring with long headers paesster. My car when i move me leg from gas is off like your car.
Regards
great video
What is the exhaust setup on the truck?
Psychobilly766 stock manifolds, hollowed cats, cut off right before the muffler.
What all did you do with the tune
What you did to keep it from dying on hp tuners gonna cam mine with the same cam an valve springs
In the VE table I decreased the airflow by like 15% or whatever and kept playing with the idle airflow until it would stay running. It's a lot of trial and error
SniderTron 3000 oh ok thanks for the info
Sounds good!!
what stall converter you using
Will someone in the Tampa area help me with a 2015 Silverado Cam swap.
Good stuff👍
Unneeded minute intro lmao
Its called art, you uncultured swine! Haha
What's cultural about it. I also deal with that stuff up here in North Dakota
Off subject ! Did you do the Chevrolet HD hood mod?
Yessir
So did you just take a Chevy HD hood and cut it for the gm headlights?