I think a sniper switching to his melee and yelling “ spy!” and pretending to run around looking for the spy is super convincing. Some people choose to give chase with you, and they just walk into any stab of your choice.
El, yeah it could work but the enemy is also aware there is a spy and most likely to check their backs more. I think just escaping the situation or if he is a bit low shoot him. I dont think backstabs will work most the time.
But there is one problem F2p players cant communicate anymore It means they cant say anything or they cant yell "spy" so this is pretty much useless for f2p players
This series is going to be a huge undertaking, but i'm glad to finally have the first part out after all this time!! I'd be hugely happy if you all shared this around to friends and stuff, it'd make the time invested feel well spent! ヽ(‘ ∇‘ )ノ Part 2 should come out whenever my brain has recovered enough to edit more, and should cover a lot of general stuff & some more nice invis watch info . Look out for it in the future!!
Just finished watching the video, it was so informative. The writing on the screen really helped to make your points clear, and I think it will be really helpful if anyone wants to pick up spy. Thanks for spending the time!
For YEARS I have been talking about how I wish the Spy could fake reloads when disguised. I had no idea it was actually a thing! Maybe it's time to turn auto-reload off..
Disguise as heavy can actually be super good on suspicious teams, as nobody thinks a spy will disguise as heavy, and that heavy is usually the class checking for spies
I just played my first game as spy! I was able to get the intelligence to ours! Then again, it took me 15 tries, I disguised as engie, and then sapped the sentry, then went in as a scout, and got the intelligence, and got tf out of there! I wanna become a spy main so I'm trying to get better Edit: I had no idea the smoke effect existed so I think that's why I ded alot lol
Not gonna lie, probably one of the best Spy guides I've ever seen. Since Spy (in my opinion) doesn't seem to be used that much, especially in 6's and 4's, maybe even 7's, no one has really dedicated time to making a guide about him. As for this, this is amazing! Hats off to you.
This is why I like using Scout disguises cause Scouts tend to be everywhere and because the Spy’s hitbox is the same regardless on what disguise he takes, a Sniper can “headshot” the Spy and survive as while it’ll look like it’s a headshot from the Snipers point of view, you’ll actually be taking bodyshot damage. The only way to headshot a Spy while under a Scout disguise is if you shoot above the Scout’s head as that’s where the Spy head is.
StickMaster500 a sniper can put jarate in the spy tho and headshot him right? I'm not sure ( edit:I apologize for the DUWANG language or the autocorrect)
Solid video on the disguise kit, if not the most solid one out there; you even talked about the Spy outline after a disguise, something that, to my knowledge, only EvilDaedalus mentioned in one of those really old "How To Play" guides.
This is literally the most informative spy video there is on YT right now. I've never really enjoyed and didn't know how to play spy, but now I know why everyone was spychecking me. Thanks man!!
One of the better yt tutorials! The undisguise bind does come in handy bumping the cart in payload to keep the cart from reversing. More spies need to do that. I'm surprised you didn't mention the team outlines, the ones where you can see your teammates when you spawn. That plays a huge part of when to disguise and when not to. I see too many new spies get clobbered by players coming out of spawn because they didn't know about the wallhacks. I would give new players the advice of only disguising right before you attack and never near the enemy spawn.
As a spy main I hate how sometimes the sentry still shoots you after you get away from it's site line, as it kind of prefires so the last bullets do damage on you even if your slightly out their site line
I know I've said it on another video before of yours but I've genuinely learned more about this game, tips and tricks, whatever you want to call it from this channel than any other. The player breakdown, strats, techniques, Woolen does it so well and that's why I bought one of your shirts.
12:01 What an excellent tip! I tried this in a game before watching this video and it worked! To think that I got that to work in one of my first Spy games is great, I hope other people will try this tip out.
I have been a spy player for quite awhile, learned today that being undisguised helps you surf rocket/damage way better, no wonder I fail at it most times, thanks alot woolen :)
One thing that for some reason seems to work is, if I pick a disguise and it barely has cosmetics, I walk forwards almost blind in a straight line and people don't shoot me - but at the same time, if I pick a heavy disguise and he's full of cool looking cosmetics, I usually jump around almost like b-hopping, once I see someone I yell out medic, and they competely ignore me and keep on walking, not even spy-checking
7k hours in TF2 and this vid still gave me a bunch of insights. I loved how it condensed useful info that I remember reading over the years all over the place but couldn't be arsed to find again specifically, like disguise hitbox comparisons. Great stuff Woolen, eagerly awaiting part 2!
Disguise as heavy , call for medic when you hear him yell that his Ubers charged and steal the poor idiots Ubercharge once it runs out kill him Odds are he’ll paycheck you unless he’s new but it’s so funny when it works
Being able to surf an enemy soldier's rocket or Demo's sticky to not only to escape but also pull off some cheeky surf stabs. Satisfying if I do say myself!
Seems like something Woolen forgot to mention is if you see a spy without a paper mask and that he’s the same team colour as you, that’s 100% your team’s spy. An enemy spy disguising as your team’s spy will always have a paper mask on no mater what. So you can be safe about him and not waste your attention/ammo checking. This can sometimes save you precious seconds in midst of combat.
Jesus christ woole this is marvellous! What are you planning for next? Maybe positioning, timing, and a general guide on when (and how) to attack? Useless part of the comment: It is me drizzley, I just had to create a new account due to problems with my old one ;-;. So I thought "why not make and entire new online personality all together?". But yeah, I've been lurking a while (mainly because i'm busy because of my studying schedule) but sometimes I quickly watch the streams, I like to hear them on the background. I'm really happy you are not with youtube videos, especially the informative kind, like this one.
Spamming A & D back and forth like you're trying to avoid a headshot or juke a rocket hides the reduced speed really well, and make it look like you're doing something aside from trying to be sneaky
Quick tip for switching your disguise's weapons as spy: If you have a mouse with EXTRA buttons on it that are easy to access, bind switching weapons to one of those. Personally, mine is bound to MOUSE5 for easy access as I use MOUSE4 for voicechat.
Thanks woolen, this was very useful, the part about sentries shooting you if you disguise in front of them and the smoke when you go invisible were the only ones that weren't useful for me.
Sadly, I learned nothing new. But considering that I have 80+ hours purely idling with invisibility just since I've gotten strange invis watches, I think that's fine. Really, really good job Wooly Boi :3
I wish I'd had this video two years ago when I was learning to play spy through my mistakes. The only thing I didn't know was that disguises continue to reload after you cancel the animation until they finish a cycle of their reload, however I'm definitely pointing newer spies to this video and the rest of the series. Thanks so much for making this.
Another thing, If you ever disguise as a sniper player which is a bot like Doeshotter (1) or any obvious bot names, just go to a sniping spot and look up, it can be useful in tricking your enemies
Oh yes thank you for making this OH YEAH ALSO BIG NOTE: If you use your friendly spy disguise to undisguise with the your eternal reward, you don't lose any cloak. I experimented a long time ago and it doesn't hurt you other than remove your disguise
I think the Big Earner also has that hidden stat of sentry guns ignoring you if undisguise and redisguise in front of them. It's very hard to make use of in an actual game because the sentry will shoot at you until you disguise, but it will ignore you after you do.
Honestly, props to VALVe for managing to make something that pops into my face and doesn't bother me in the slightest ((I could make a metaphor of this with pants)) I remember when I was younger, watching videos and my brother play I was mesmerized by the white silhouette; weirdly attracted by it
About the sniper disguise... Alot of people find the disguise VERY beleivable, as you dont really look at a sniper in a sniper spot... if you are disguised as a sniper with his melee out, look around alot and use the "SPY!" voice command, to look like a paranoid sniper.
Only thing i can say to new spies is CHANGE YOUR DISGUISES UP! If you keep going pyro, the other team will look for a spy pyro. Same for all of the other classes. Think of spy like playing a fighting game. It’s all mind games, and outsmarting the other person.
The best disguise is actually like the free to play sniper, since who would think "wow that like gibbus sniper doing nothing near the enemy team sure is suspicious". The answer is no one since that is what they usually do
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Shit lots of usefull tips now i only need to practice it and i will be fine
As an Engi, I think disguising as scout is obvious as fuck. You run in the middle of nowhere, eyeballing "your" teammates instead of running to the front or the next medic box, running slow as shit and not jumping at all. Every 2nd spy disguises as scout so you're already suspicious, consider changing your disguise if you were already called out
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I think a sniper switching to his melee and yelling “ spy!” and pretending to run around looking for the spy is super convincing. Some people choose to give chase with you, and they just walk into any stab of your choice.
yeah that works pretty well
My favorite is yelling medic while disguised or cloaked to confuse the medic
El, yeah it could work but the enemy is also aware there is a spy and most likely to check their backs more. I think just escaping the situation or if he is a bit low shoot him. I dont think backstabs will work most the time.
But there is one problem
F2p players cant communicate anymore
It means they cant say anything or they cant yell "spy" so this is pretty much useless for f2p players
@@awoolensleevelet why the soldier bot u use while showing the damage hopping is called the ivan the space walked (its the old name of the freeman)
Tf2 is the only game you can make an 18 minute long video about clicking 2 buttons as a french baguette boy.
Bob Reday and crossaint
Aui aui
Any moba game
@@Elsier1 shhhhhhhh
Oui oui croissant
I needed this. thank you bby woolen
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I never thought I see you here
Didn’t think you would be here
why are you guys saying you wouldnt expect him he’s a spy main
Keyboard boi in tf2?!?!
This series is going to be a huge undertaking, but i'm glad to finally have the first part out after all this time!!
I'd be hugely happy if you all shared this around to friends and stuff, it'd make the time invested feel well spent! ヽ(‘ ∇‘ )ノ
Part 2 should come out whenever my brain has recovered enough to edit more, and should cover a lot of general stuff & some more nice invis watch info .
Look out for it in the future!!
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As soon as I saw the thumbnail I thought “this is going to be way better than MrPaladin”
(I’m Mechjeb by the way, I am currently changine email)
Daddy Woolen has the top tips
this video was really good Woolen I'm so happy to see it : )
400 hours on spy and never knew my dishuise reloads with me, lol.
You mad lad!
Wow this looks wonderful. I hope it gets the recognition it deserves.
Just finished watching the video, it was so informative. The writing on the screen really helped to make your points clear, and I think it will be really helpful if anyone wants to pick up spy. Thanks for spending the time!
thank you!
For YEARS I have been talking about how I wish the Spy could fake reloads when disguised. I had no idea it was actually a thing!
Maybe it's time to turn auto-reload off..
More in-depth, and much better than the old MrPaladin’s “So you wanna be a spy?” series. thanks woolen
Maybe stop the bully on mrP
@@kjkh3104 it's not bullying lmao
@@Ash_Orangu I said in general x d d x
@@kjkh3104 no you didn't
That video is 6 years old now and it’s pretty out of date but because of the lack of updates (cough cough) this series actually works.
Disguise as heavy can actually be super good on suspicious teams, as nobody thinks a spy will disguise as heavy, and that heavy is usually the class checking for spies
Easy
Disguise as Scout and when they realise your always a Scout, disguise as a Soldier
It works nearly everytime
i just switch up bettwen Soldier,pyro,demo,sniper
Scout is too obvious especaly the speed
most of the time i just disguise as scout and when they find out i just disguise as pyro or soldier
Definetly works keep on using Scout till they know it is the Spy now switch to other class
Na I just fuck do the cool shit
scout disguise is easy to recognise because scout is always fast and the enemy spy has normal speed
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I just played my first game as spy! I was able to get the intelligence to ours! Then again, it took me 15 tries, I disguised as engie, and then sapped the sentry, then went in as a scout, and got the intelligence, and got tf out of there! I wanna become a spy main so I'm trying to get better
Edit: I had no idea the smoke effect existed so I think that's why I ded alot lol
Good work
I always fail to break the turrter with spy why
I found out that you cant zap a turret while you are invisible
Not gonna lie, probably one of the best Spy guides I've ever seen. Since Spy (in my opinion) doesn't seem to be used that much, especially in 6's and 4's, maybe even 7's, no one has really dedicated time to making a guide about him. As for this, this is amazing! Hats off to you.
This is why I like using Scout disguises cause Scouts tend to be everywhere and because the Spy’s hitbox is the same regardless on what disguise he takes, a Sniper can “headshot” the Spy and survive as while it’ll look like it’s a headshot from the Snipers point of view, you’ll actually be taking bodyshot damage.
The only way to headshot a Spy while under a Scout disguise is if you shoot above the Scout’s head as that’s where the Spy head is.
Though people will learn to shoot above the scouts head, nut yeah. I use scout too ;)
StickMaster500 a sniper can put jarate in the spy tho and headshot him right? I'm not sure ( edit:I apologize for the DUWANG language or the autocorrect)
Spookwagen!?
有田惟光 shhhh
Ist that just what he said/showed in the video? Why do you point it out aswell?
I DID learn new things!
Solid video on the disguise kit, if not the most solid one out there; you even talked about the Spy outline after a disguise, something that, to my knowledge, only EvilDaedalus mentioned in one of those really old "How To Play" guides.
This is literally the most informative spy video there is on YT right now. I've never really enjoyed and didn't know how to play spy, but now I know why everyone was spychecking me. Thanks man!!
One of the better yt tutorials! The undisguise bind does come in handy bumping the cart in payload to keep the cart from reversing. More spies need to do that.
I'm surprised you didn't mention the team outlines, the ones where you can see your teammates when you spawn. That plays a huge part of when to disguise and when not to. I see too many new spies get clobbered by players coming out of spawn because they didn't know about the wallhacks. I would give new players the advice of only disguising right before you attack and never near the enemy spawn.
As a spy main I hate how sometimes the sentry still shoots you after you get away from it's site line, as it kind of prefires so the last bullets do damage on you even if your slightly out their site line
I know I've said it on another video before of yours but I've genuinely learned more about this game, tips and tricks, whatever you want to call it from this channel than any other. The player breakdown, strats, techniques, Woolen does it so well and that's why I bought one of your shirts.
thank you @:D
What an amazing video! I love the series and the concept. Thank you for the advice, Woolen!
that disguise silhouette is completely ignored by my eyes now lol its kinda weird taking full notice of it now
Spy has soo many little things to think about. It’s so much work
12:01 What an excellent tip! I tried this in a game before watching this video and it worked! To think that I got that to work in one of my first Spy games is great, I hope other people will try this tip out.
1-Spawn as Spy
2-Desguise as Blu Friendly Heavy with his Melee
3- Crouch and walk
4-Reach your target
5-Backstab him 👍
I have been a spy player for quite awhile, learned today that being undisguised helps you surf rocket/damage way better, no wonder I fail at it most times, thanks alot woolen :)
I didn't know sentry will keep shooting you when you disguise while seen by the sentry, cheers!
I've been waiting for this! So happy that you're covering this topic
that's definitely the best video about disguises ever made
First video in and you already have the best disguise tutorial out there
One thing that for some reason seems to work is, if I pick a disguise and it barely has cosmetics, I walk forwards almost blind in a straight line and people don't shoot me - but at the same time, if I pick a heavy disguise and he's full of cool looking cosmetics, I usually jump around almost like b-hopping, once I see someone I yell out medic, and they competely ignore me and keep on walking, not even spy-checking
It really was the madman woolen in my game, I feel blessed
hoho
This is way more in depth that what I expected
7k hours in TF2 and this vid still gave me a bunch of insights. I loved how it condensed useful info that I remember reading over the years all over the place but couldn't be arsed to find again specifically, like disguise hitbox comparisons. Great stuff Woolen, eagerly awaiting part 2!
i'm super happy you've finally made it woolen, congratulations my dude
I have never heard of undisguising bind, thanks for the information! This may help me a lot
Listening to this man talk is quite relaxing...
There's a butterknife kill less than 30 seconds into the gameplay in the back ground? HE'S A GOD. Other than that, really good video Woolen!
Disguise as heavy , call for medic when you hear him yell that his Ubers charged and steal the poor idiots Ubercharge once it runs out kill him
Odds are he’ll paycheck you unless he’s new but it’s so funny when it works
You have no idea how happy I am that this is a thing.
I’m a pretty good spy I’d like to think, but I still learned some things from this video. Thanks woolen!
Lots of useful info, didn't know some of these. Nice job Woolen :)
Thank you for all your hard work woolen!!! very grateful :D
Great video! I always love getting to look inside a competent spy's head. It helps a lot!
YES been looking foraward to this
Being able to surf an enemy soldier's rocket or Demo's sticky to not only to escape but also pull off some cheeky surf stabs. Satisfying if I do say myself!
i actually learned quite a bit despite having played spy for over 6 years, good stuff
He’s done it the absolute mad lad
Finally, you made your return to the one and only spy
Even tho i quit tf2 i still watch your videos because they are so good¨.
And don't forget to enable 3d class in the Hud so you can see if your disguise has any errors
So much information that i never knew I'm going to improve at spy so quickly holy shit.
Seems like something Woolen forgot to mention is if you see a spy without a paper mask and that he’s the same team colour as you, that’s 100% your team’s spy. An enemy spy disguising as your team’s spy will always have a paper mask on no mater what. So you can be safe about him and not waste your attention/ammo checking. This can sometimes save you precious seconds in midst of combat.
i didn't even think about it haha
Woolen doing a sneaky boy guide? Christmas came early!
Jesus christ woole this is marvellous!
What are you planning for next? Maybe positioning, timing, and a general guide on when (and how) to attack?
Useless part of the comment:
It is me drizzley, I just had to create a new account due to problems with my old one ;-;. So I thought "why not make and entire new online personality all together?". But yeah, I've been lurking a while (mainly because i'm busy because of my studying schedule) but sometimes I quickly watch the streams, I like to hear them on the background.
I'm really happy you are not with youtube videos, especially the informative kind, like this one.
oh hi drizzley
Thank you for all these tips because I’m a Spy main myself
Amazing work chief
Great videos, great tips, I definitely learned a few things.
The thing about disgusting as a scout is that people will be able to know that you are a spy immediately because of your speed.
Spamming A & D back and forth like you're trying to avoid a headshot or juke a rocket hides the reduced speed really well, and make it look like you're doing something aside from trying to be sneaky
This helps me A LOT with Fighting spies in comp especially, and imma have to show my fellow spies about this
Quick tip for switching your disguise's weapons as spy: If you have a mouse with EXTRA buttons on it that are easy to access, bind switching weapons to one of those. Personally, mine is bound to MOUSE5 for easy access as I use MOUSE4 for voicechat.
The Madman, he's doing it.
Nice vid woolen, keep up the good work
ABOUT DAMN TIME
thank mr woolen for helping my brain expand
Great video! I will take these tips to my journey^^
Thanks woolen, this was very useful, the part about sentries shooting you if you disguise in front of them and the smoke when you go invisible were the only ones that weren't useful for me.
Sadly, I learned nothing new. But considering that I have 80+ hours purely idling with invisibility just since I've gotten strange invis watches, I think that's fine.
Really, really good job Wooly Boi :3
hoho
Amazing quality video. Keep it up!!
WoAhHhH is this a new woolen series. Better get my comfy socks and popcorn, cause we're in for a bumby ride.
I wish I'd had this video two years ago when I was learning to play spy through my mistakes. The only thing I didn't know was that disguises continue to reload after you cancel the animation until they finish a cycle of their reload, however I'm definitely pointing newer spies to this video and the rest of the series. Thanks so much for making this.
Another thing, If you ever disguise as a sniper player which is a bot like Doeshotter (1) or any obvious bot names, just go to a sniping spot and look up, it can be useful in tricking your enemies
I find that spy silhouette when disguising kinda cool. No reason. I just find it nice
12:43 the face of that scout
oh my oh my this is much bigger then I thought
That's what she said.
Brilliant video sleevlet
Ty
Oh yes thank you for making this
OH YEAH ALSO BIG NOTE:
If you use your friendly spy disguise to undisguise with the your eternal reward, you don't lose any cloak. I experimented a long time ago and it doesn't hurt you other than remove your disguise
I think the Big Earner also has that hidden stat of sentry guns ignoring you if undisguise and redisguise in front of them. It's very hard to make use of in an actual game because the sentry will shoot at you until you disguise, but it will ignore you after you do.
Thank you very much for making this
nicely done.
Thank you! I forgot how to play spy and this saved me time!
been waiting for this
Here’s a cool tip, if you disguise as an enemy spy and cloak/uncloak, it won’t raise much suspision.
If your out in the open, the color of the cloak effect will still be your own team color and is really suspicious.
Honestly, props to VALVe for managing to make something that pops into my face and doesn't bother me in the slightest
((I could make a metaphor of this with pants))
I remember when I was younger, watching videos and my brother play I was mesmerized by the white silhouette; weirdly attracted by it
About the sniper disguise...
Alot of people find the disguise VERY beleivable, as you dont really look at a sniper in a sniper spot... if you are disguised as a sniper with his melee out, look around alot and use the "SPY!" voice command, to look like a paranoid sniper.
Only thing i can say to new spies is CHANGE YOUR DISGUISES UP!
If you keep going pyro, the other team will look for a spy pyro. Same for all of the other classes.
Think of spy like playing a fighting game. It’s all mind games, and outsmarting the other person.
My most convincing disguise was a Sniper holding melee and spamming "SPY!".
This is all just very interesting.
The best disguise is actually like the free to play sniper, since who would think "wow that like gibbus sniper doing nothing near the enemy team sure is suspicious". The answer is no one since that is what they usually do
Shit lots of usefull tips now i only need to practice it and i will be fine
I know my disguise is fooling the enemy when even I forget what team I am on and who is the enemy.
Ah, seems like I found another helpful guide, and it's a series too!
No series lol
The thumbnail is so sick
If you ever decide to disguise yourself as heavy, you should use your melee, especially with the holiday punch.
6:15 is the best one yet
I found personally that melee sniper is decent if you run around randomly yelling spy
As an Engi, I think disguising as scout is obvious as fuck. You run in the middle of nowhere, eyeballing "your" teammates instead of running to the front or the next medic box, running slow as shit and not jumping at all.
Every 2nd spy disguises as scout so you're already suspicious, consider changing your disguise if you were already called out
wooblen be my dad please you're great and I love your content and you always cheer me up, no matter how bad my life is being, and it means a lot, even tho it I'm just one of many. Keep up the wonderful work
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@@awoolensleevelet henlo thanks for reply papi
Jackiquack daddy issues in the yt comment section...well i can die happy now
this guy is amazing
8:38 so what I'm hearing is... Spycicle isn't just "the" anti-Pyro knife, it's also "the" anti-Spy knife!