1:40 "We couldn't save La Pieta, smashed up before we got there!" This is a world with no children, and the statue of a mother holding her dead son (Jesus) is bound to be broken out of anger for what is haooening in the story.
The beauty is the contrast between the british clinical modern society, laced with the posh class system, juxtaposed against the absolute degradation of society. This one scene tells you 8% of all you need to know is going on. People, even inner city london people, are living in quarters close to slums, there is a tenuous middle class of professionals like Theo who live too close to that slum for comfort, and then there's the military creating a ring of steel around the elite along the parade. Even the utility of the "ark" is a joke. WHy preserve art if there will be no humans in 50 years time to enjoy it? It's just another bit of ego stroking and distraction.
@@joeking5679 It's interesting because the year after this we got There Will Be Blood, and the next year No Country For Old Men, which are two of the best films of the century imo(as is this one).
@@joekreissl4499 Ir is. Same way Gattaca is also one of the best sci-fis. Science fiction doesn't need to be as robust as Star trek levels of world changing. It can be at the level of gattaca, gene altering/selection, and CoM, humans have seemingly lost the ability to reproduce.
Any time someone asks how to worldbuild, I check this. Constant layered building. Huge respect to the second and third assistant directors for all the hard work needed.
Holy Shit! I thought this was a joke comment. That you were just saying how "Floyd like" the scene looks and the iconic smoke stacks look like the Animals cover...BUT THERE ACTUALLY IS IN FACT A GIANT FLOATING FUCKING PIG!!! This is way better than playing the White Album backwards. Too cool! How the hell did you catch that?!?!? Edit: So I didn’t watch past about the 1 minute mark because I was only interested in the King Crimson song. But I watched it again and finally saw the whole thing. Duh. It’s still very cool. And this is literally the cover of the Animals album. I don’t live in London so I never knew where that picture came from. And google didn’t exist in 1977.
Pink Floyd had this blimp at one of their concerts way back when. This rich guy is obviously a collector ( he has Michelangelo's David after all ) ..... so he must have somehow obtained it... maybe from Roger Waters?
Love how every time I see this scene I notice little details. This time it's the Banksy at 1:05. The juxtaposition of the cops kissing next to the armed guard is too good.
The Banksy is actually interestingly inaccurate, as it is portrayed as being on a "Berlin wall" type of wall, when it is in fact painted on the side of the Prince of Wales pub in Brighton which is a brick building.
No point having a pension or saving for one when everyone will be dead in under 100 years. He probably is in one of the better locations driving that car. Yes he has to leave the walls but he is probably living protected behind them in employee housing. So many layers to a movie like this.
It’s most definitely apocryphal, but I love the story of when a Nazi soldier came into Picasso’s studio, saw it and asked him if he made it, and his response was “No, you did.” It’s too kitschy not to love
I loved this song upon hearing it as a child back in the 70s. I always felt it had a prophetic quality to it, and hearing it play in this movie just gave me goosebumps like never before.
@@TheTransitmtlit didn't get that much attention in the popular media when it was released in cinema, even in the UK it had a sort of art house release. The dvds were always in the bargain bins too
From a truly visionary director. I love the relationship of the sounds with the KC track, the tuctuc exhaust mimics the tom toms on the drum kit, the screech of the car tyres as he arrives fits with the track, the band on the mall, .... its brilliant
that leap through chaos to elegance was perfect. outside, people were out-louding that infertility is punishment of the god. but inside, everything was such on a daily basis for the wealthy ones, as if there is nothing wrong with the world. every social disaster concern poor ones rather than high society. and social-economic circumstances create huge differences on aspects for life. fantastic. so much actuality through futuristic perspective.
I feel that in that scene the rich we're living the last days with all the flamboyance and excess they could, daily parades in full dress uniform, frolicking in the park with exotic pets, etc.
This scene by itself could have been the basis for an entire film showing the end of civilization and how the wealthiest of the world would remain in denial, lest their extreme comfort be interrupted. In fact, there are many stories which combine these elements already. Check the Old Testament of the christian bible, where the only equalizing force that can affect the wealthy and powerful is a reticent god who appears only sporadically. That's how we know he is fiction, created to assuage the fears of destitution for the masses.
also inside is the only young person, shining in bright white (plus a crafted body part). it's david, a jewish king. of course. the british culture, the british gone: "I just don't think about it" right. right??
This is an amazing film. I loved every minute. Pigs over Battersea Power Station. Homage to Pink Floyrd and the symbolisation of these people having the wealth and power.
RIP Ian McDonald, ("Military band of the british army", "Giles, Giles and Fripp", "King Crimson", "In the court of the crimson king", 1969 etc.), alto sax player and "Foreigner" co-founder (75) ;-( Ian also performed as a session saxist on "T. Rex"’s classic 1971 album, "Electric warrior" and later reunited with part of the original Crimson lineup as a member of the "21st century schizoid cand", his final major project was the rootsy rock band "Honey West", King Crimson did also two "John Peel sessions" (65, d. 2004) in 1969, King Crimson was sampled by many alternative bands, but also hip hop artists, f.i. by Kanye West, Phat Kat, Pharaoe Monch, Gang Starr, Sagopa Kajmer, The Hive, Moving Strings and Crimson Jazz Trio etc. !
@IntrepidTit One of the very best. He was critically important to the first incarnation of KC, and was instrumental in setting the tone that the band would carry forward for the next 52+ years.
Revelation of the Method. Great movie and fantastic scene. I think of it often as the divide between the haves and have nots is widening at a tremendous pace. Reminds me of me and my brother. Those that “don’t think about it” are rewarded.
YES! yes. Irish Wolfhounds. great dogs. >>> isn't it oddly comforting to read strangers' comments about details you yourself noticed [like 'la guernica' and the pig]
Theo's negging in this film is really intelligently wrought. Watch thru and pay attention to the several times he says harmless little things that all the same totally undermine the posture of the character hes talking to. It's very telling about his character. He gets thru (almost) the entire film without physically harming anyone. Hes not an action hero, hes no warrior. Hes a rogue. Skates through the entire film by the tip of his tongue and stealth.
My fan theory is that Alex was in prison or involved with gang activity hence the street/prison tattoos on his hand and neck. He has a deep scare on his face which to me resembles a bullet wound, perhaps he was a spoiled powerful rich kid with no real direction or purpose in life and took pleasure in criminal life and violent behavior. Since his dad is so powerful he usually always gets out of legal trouble somehow. Maybe he eventually got shot in the face and became mentally or physically disabled from it. Now he lives a life of house arrest and probation, maybe apart of his sentencing is to have a mandatory prescription to a mood balancer kinda like future riddaline but with no FDA oversight. No he lives docile life heavily medicated to suppress his violent behavior as hence why Nigile easily freaked out when his son wasn’t complying to his mandatory meds.
I love the use of contrast in this scene or scenes... we see the common people... all crowded together in a state of distress. Then Clive Owen is driven out to the country, where it's isolated. Then into this guys mansion... nothing but space... any food or drink he wants... plunder. Really shows how one person with power and money lives like an alien compared with the masses.
Nice analysis, but it's worth pointing out that the 'mansion' in this scene is actually supposed to be the 'Ark of Arts', a refurbished (and digitally enhanced) Battersea Power Station - still very much within London, and only two or three miles from the street that we first see Theo being driven down. You get the impression that we're moving out into the country just because the route goes past some of London's large parks. At the time of filming, Battersea Power Station was just a shell, having been decommissioned and left to rot for decades - but that whole area has now been redeveloped and the restored Power Station will be host to a campus, shops, events venue and roof gardens.
It's meant to be within a few km's of the masses you just saw. You saw that military blockade? That's them separating the elite from the plebs. Theo is meant to work for some government ministry, likely getting the job due to his connections. Heh as relatives inside the elite world, but he lives with everyone else, albeit a bit better than most.
I saw this movie for the first time a few years back, and I thought my music on my phone went off during this scene. It blew me away! I loved this and the Animals tribute in the next scene.
You know, there are hundreds of references to more mainstream, blockbuster, sci-fi fare like Inception, and Children of Men is still far far superior in tackling it's subject matter. It's the end of the world in slow motion. It's all of humanity dying from cancer all at once. It's the Radiohead of thought-provoking sci-fi.
@@NiekKuijpers Or the rise of nationalists like yourself pretending like some religion is responsible, not late stage capitalism taking effect, failures in our systems, overzealous conservative dogma trying to create a more and more oppressive world for people of any identity. Inshallah, comrade. The death of the west comes with putting trans women in video games, and the more there are, the more evil communism there is.
@@NiekKuijpers You are literally an idiot. You think ISLAM is responsible for the collapse of an already collapsing West? This has been a LONG time coming, FAR predating the refugee crisis. Capitalism has been consuming itself for over a century, and we're approaching a point where Capitalism can no longer adapt to its own over consumption. And you think this is bad? Climate change is set to cause the greatest refugee crisis this world has ever seen, with 150 MILLION climate refugees expected by 2050. You think Islam caused that too?
If only the world today realizes the relative impact of this epic moment in cinematic history has on the future shall it become reality or remain fiction
And we’ve never again been treated to a movie with similar background shots. Just look how full and lived in the backdrops are in the first minute of the clip. Various groups and individuals going about their day. A band playing in the park. Incredible. And it all tells a substory while the protag makes his way to the compound. Rich and poor are divided. High contrast between both halves. The laws themselves have been relaxed to the point where affluent people have zebras and camels as pets.
@@Circa1628 One Rediscovery of How to Successfully Gestate Babies _does._ If nothing else, it's a salvation to the species even if all previous generations pass away...though, I certainly would hope _that_ baby and its schlüt mother aren't the only things left humanity has to show for its enduring struggle.
Some movies you dont think will be medicore, you arent exicted about it at all. You put it on anyway because you are bored. But it makes a indelibable impression that you can never forget. This one such movie.
@@kentvesser9484 Yeah, it is very downbeat with an ambiguous ending (very British!) which sadly wouldn't have the wide appeal of a typical Hollywood blockbuster.
The location-hopping is interesting - from The Mall (which leads up to Buckingham Palace) to Battersea Power Station (opposite direction to the palace), and then the interior shot of them arriving which is the Turbine Hall at Tate Modern. Works very well.
First time hearing this song on the movie when it first camr out and fell in love with it. Its like a lonley bard singing the demise of a court jester while everyone dies around hin.
Did anyone notice the Picasso painting on the wall. That painting depicts the bombing and massacre of a town named Guernica in Northern Spain. This was done by Fascists during the Spanish Civil War. The bombing was ordered by Francisco Franco to quash the resistance in that region and to gain control over it. The bombing mission was meant to destroy military targets but it ended in tragedy as many civilians were blown up and killed during the attack. If you can see, the figures in the painting are the townsfolk who were bombed- disfigured, mangled, mixed-up and distorted in the violence. I think it was nice addition to the scene in the sense that it gives a feeling of foreboding, an eerie retelling of the theme of government trying to control people during times of war and crisis. To use any means necessary to "keep the peace" and enforce its ideology, laws and policies on the population.
actually, the painting was part of a series of works against bullfighting, and what you see are bulls and horses being tortured and killed (in those days, the horses died as well). He was halfway through it when Guernica happened. He didn't know much about the details, as there are no pictures or film of the actual event and only a few pictures of the empty ruins afterwards, so he just added some people.
Good to see this post & that this great movie is still in someones mind. The movie is predictive like Orwell was . What the film portrays could indeed come to pass given the way things are going in the U.K.
People will be happy the UK is independent when this global debt crisis hits. The entire EU will be dragged down by the periphery countries with excess debt. At least the UK stands a chance by having removed itself.
I think they could have easily fit in Epitaph in the movie as well. The wall on which the prophets wrote Is cracking at the seams. Upon the instruments of death The sunlight brightly gleams. When every man is torn apart With nightmares and with dreams, Will no one lay the laurel wreath As silence drowns the screams. Between the iron gates of fate, The seeds of time were sown, And watered by the deeds of those Who know and who are known; Knowledge is a deadly friend When no one sets the rules. The fate of all mankind I see Is in the hands of fools. Confusion will be my epitaph. As I crawl a cracked and broken path If we make it we can all sit back And laugh. But I fear tomorrow I'll be crying, Yes I fear tomorrow I'll be crying.
Soylent Green....you are aware that the current collapse of the global birth rates is our problem, not overpopulation as always and falsely claimed. "....most perfect prediction."
Anyone ever notice how this film mirrors lord of the flies? takes place on island with no hope of procreation or future, emphasis on othering processes, hope comes in the form of a boat in the end. most notably lord of the flies being beelzebub aka the crimson king. have searched online and never found any mention of the two titles together
In addition to Greg Lake's inspiring voice and Fripp's mellotron playing in the background, you can also see that the Battersea Power Station has a giant pig floatie near its smokestacks. This is the closest any apocalyptic film has ever gotten to being a prog rock record.
A very significant film in the field of dystopia and the genre of science fiction that shows a demonstration of the power of the rich and privileged living in the intoxication of great food of wine and amazing music in this case King Crimson where Brian Eno also performed and the music is great and underscores the subverted and dysfunctional world of the reign of terror and insecurity, as already shown by Fritz Lang Film Metropolis or Blade Runner of 1982, which also belong to this genre and also the meaning show scum and human scum in coexistence with each other
This is still one of my all time favorite movies. The music, to the dystopian/apocalyptic plot, to the cinematography, this movie is just fantastic.
The story was so moving
This movie is next-NEXT level....one of my top 5....so well done....
Five years to go! (It's set in 2027.)
Totally
Feels eerie watching it now buddy. I don't know why but it seems like our direction rn
1:40 "We couldn't save La Pieta, smashed up before we got there!" This is a world with no children, and the statue of a mother holding her dead son (Jesus) is bound to be broken out of anger for what is haooening in the story.
Good insight
God I hope that was intentional
Pretty sure there's a scene of a woman holding her dead son later in the film that's very similar to it too
Some person smashed the Pieta in the early 70s. Screamed "I am Jesus Christ"! Mental patient, I vaguely remember?
I guess the fact that he was able to salvage Guernica means there isn't much left of the U.N. anymore. I guess that's true even outside the movie.
The worldbuilding in this movie was and will always be impeccable.
I thought back then they could just keep making movies like this, boy was I wrong.
I just finished watching a vinesauce clip then watched this clip and saw your comment which made me laugh
The beauty is the contrast between the british clinical modern society, laced with the posh class system, juxtaposed against the absolute degradation of society.
This one scene tells you 8% of all you need to know is going on. People, even inner city london people, are living in quarters close to slums, there is a tenuous middle class of professionals like Theo who live too close to that slum for comfort, and then there's the military creating a ring of steel around the elite along the parade.
Even the utility of the "ark" is a joke. WHy preserve art if there will be no humans in 50 years time to enjoy it? It's just another bit of ego stroking and distraction.
@@joeking5679 It's interesting because the year after this we got There Will Be Blood, and the next year No Country For Old Men, which are two of the best films of the century imo(as is this one).
Thank god for this movie
WE will never get a better sci-fi dystopian film, ever.
its not really sci-fi
@@joekreissl4499 Ir is. Same way Gattaca is also one of the best sci-fis.
Science fiction doesn't need to be as robust as Star trek levels of world changing.
It can be at the level of gattaca, gene altering/selection, and CoM, humans have seemingly lost the ability to reproduce.
@@elyastoohey6621 yeah but it's left ambiguous
@@joekreissl4499 It's science fiction. Deal with it.
@@zippymufo9765 Ok???
I got a 50p copy of this film at a charity shop, whoever gave that film up thank you from me.
That was me😊
Lol, really localized yourself with that state brotha.
Any time someone asks how to worldbuild, I check this. Constant layered building. Huge respect to the second and third assistant directors for all the hard work needed.
Did I see a pig floating above that that re-purposed Battersea Station?
llenin6767 is holy shit, there is a pig. Tipping the hat to Floyd and crimson in one scene.
Holy Shit! I thought this was a joke comment. That you were just saying how "Floyd like" the scene looks and the iconic smoke stacks look like the Animals cover...BUT THERE ACTUALLY IS IN FACT A GIANT FLOATING FUCKING PIG!!! This is way better than playing the White Album backwards. Too cool! How the hell did you catch that?!?!?
Edit: So I didn’t watch past about the 1 minute mark because I was only interested in the King Crimson song. But I watched it again and finally saw the whole thing. Duh. It’s still very cool. And this is literally the cover of the Animals album. I don’t live in London so I never knew where that picture came from. And google didn’t exist in 1977.
@@subversion6066 This whole movie is really cool like that, in my opinion it's one of the better movies to come out in recent years.
Is the floating Donald Trump Baby balloon redesigned... a premonition!
Pink Floyd had this blimp at one of their concerts way back when. This rich guy is obviously a collector ( he has Michelangelo's David after all ) ..... so he must have somehow obtained it... maybe from Roger Waters?
Love how every time I see this scene I notice little details. This time it's the Banksy at 1:05. The juxtaposition of the cops kissing next to the armed guard is too good.
That's extremely subtle (edit: and agreed it's clever). I've only watched this half a dozen times, the details aren't jumping out to me yet.
just saw it for the first time....also in the beginning the ad: "Avoiding fertility tests is a crime"
The Banksy is actually interestingly inaccurate, as it is portrayed as being on a "Berlin wall" type of wall, when it is in fact painted on the side of the Prince of Wales pub in Brighton which is a brick building.
I just noticed how old the chauffeur is. There isn't any retirement in this world so this dude is gonna keep on driving until he drops dead
no retirement but free "quietus" kits for the elderly to self euthanize and stop being a burden on the aging population 😬
I mean... there is no retirement TODAY... so... yeah.
No point having a pension or saving for one when everyone will be dead in under 100 years. He probably is in one of the better locations driving that car. Yes he has to leave the walls but he is probably living protected behind them in employee housing. So many layers to a movie like this.
He’s only 42 YO
You've got something in your teeth.
Perfect synchronization between lyrics and scenes.
"I just don't think about it.".
Wise words when staring into the abyss.
Or doom-scrolling on my phone.
From where I sit right now, looks like the US is on a very similar path...
I find myself thinking about this line a lot lately. Ironic isn’t it?
having Guernica as the backdrop for a dining table
yes, along with brilliant filmography, casting and selection of this KC piece...a detail that counted towards the movie's perfection
Not to mention the Pink Floyd pig.
It’s most definitely apocryphal, but I love the story of when a Nazi soldier came into Picasso’s studio, saw it and asked him if he made it, and his response was “No, you did.” It’s too kitschy not to love
I would
It was little touches like this that made me realise I was watching a classic when I went and saw it at the cinema…
My heart leaped when this song played in this scene. There's power in this music...
Whenever I think of great dystopian movies, Children of Men always comes to mind. Great opening scene.
0:28
guy has sign that says ¨DOOM IS ETERNAL¨
they fucking predicted it
The game ?
@@ENIGMA111-c2w yeah
Haha
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holy crap 3rd century BC egyptian eschatology predicted eternal doom too! how did they know
I loved this song upon hearing it as a child back in the 70s. I always felt it had a prophetic quality to it, and hearing it play in this movie just gave me goosebumps like never before.
yes, prophetic. i hope whoever responsible for proposing this perfect song to add power and sacred beauty to this film realizes what he's done...
@@MYsequinedsky genius man Robert Fripp
Emmanuel Lubezki cinematographer (3 Oscars), Alfonso Cuaron director (4 Oscars). This is an outstanding film that stays with you.
Incredible film. So underappreciated.
Every scene is crafted to deliver
your accurate evaluation, concise... almost a haiku!
How is it underappreciated. It's in everyone's top dystopian movies
what drives people to comment under every clip of popular media that it is "underrated" or "underappreciated" ?
@@TheTransitmtlit didn't get that much attention in the popular media when it was released in cinema, even in the UK it had a sort of art house release. The dvds were always in the bargain bins too
From a truly visionary director. I love the relationship of the sounds with the KC track, the tuctuc exhaust mimics the tom toms on the drum kit, the screech of the car tyres as he arrives fits with the track, the band on the mall, .... its brilliant
i picked up on most commenters' details above - but yours just means i'm gonna watch this movie again tonight. thank you
Meh, he made this movie and that's it. This is his only movie I really dig.
@@jeanjacqueslundi3502alfonso cuarón is interesting and big director my 4 favorite movie was directed by alfo cuarón
One of many reasons it wants rewatching and then again!
I was already liking the movie as I was watching it. But when KC entered in the scene, the movie went from good to classic in my book.
words out of my mouth!
Cool word can come out of mostly everyone’s mouth
Who?
@@johnmazzoni487 King Crimson the band playing
Oh be quiet dude. It's just a song man.
To anyone wondering the Opera song that comes on after TCOTCK is War, He Sung, is Toil and Trouble", by G.F. Handel! :D
that leap through chaos to elegance was perfect. outside, people were out-louding that infertility is punishment of the god. but inside, everything was such on a daily basis for the wealthy ones, as if there is nothing wrong with the world. every social disaster concern poor ones rather than high society. and social-economic circumstances create huge differences on aspects for life. fantastic. so much actuality through futuristic perspective.
I feel that in that scene the rich we're living the last days with all the flamboyance and excess they could, daily parades in full dress uniform, frolicking in the park with exotic pets, etc.
Just like now! LOL. . . . . .
This scene by itself could have been the basis for an entire film showing the end of civilization and how the wealthiest of the world would remain in denial, lest their extreme comfort be interrupted.
In fact, there are many stories which combine these elements already.
Check the Old Testament of the christian bible, where the only equalizing force that can affect the wealthy and powerful is a reticent god who appears only sporadically.
That's how we know he is fiction, created to assuage the fears of destitution for the masses.
@@Armadurapersonal The exotic pets are child substitutes.
also inside is the only young person, shining in bright white (plus a crafted body part).
it's david, a jewish king. of course.
the british culture, the british gone: "I just don't think about it"
right. right??
This film blew my mind when I first saw it on the DVD at my friend's house in 2007.
I can honestly admit I cried on the scene where they are coming out from the building and the baby starts crying and all the soldiers kneels
I went into this movie cold in the theaters having no idea what it was. Blown away.
This is an amazing film. I loved every minute. Pigs over Battersea Power Station. Homage to Pink Floyrd and the symbolisation of these people having the wealth and power.
RIP Ian McDonald, ("Military band of the british army", "Giles, Giles and Fripp", "King Crimson", "In the court of the crimson king", 1969 etc.), alto sax player and "Foreigner" co-founder (75) ;-( Ian also performed as a session saxist on "T. Rex"’s classic 1971 album, "Electric warrior" and later reunited with part of the original Crimson lineup as a member of the "21st century schizoid cand", his final major project was the rootsy rock band "Honey West", King Crimson did also two "John Peel sessions" (65, d. 2004) in 1969, King Crimson was sampled by many alternative bands, but also hip hop artists, f.i. by Kanye West, Phat Kat, Pharaoe Monch, Gang Starr, Sagopa Kajmer, The Hive, Moving Strings and Crimson Jazz Trio etc. !
@IntrepidTit One of the very best. He was critically important to the first incarnation of KC, and was instrumental in setting the tone that the band would carry forward for the next 52+ years.
The way things are going at the moment, coming to a future near you very soon.
"Dr Swan believes that the rapidly decreasing fertility rate means that most men will be unable to produce viable sperm by 2045." 😳
@@MYCUTIEMARKISAGUN Context?
Future?! King Crimson sees the future! This a JoJo reference!
Worse
Revelation of the Method. Great movie and fantastic scene. I think of it often as the divide between the haves and have nots is widening at a tremendous pace. Reminds me of me and my brother. Those that “don’t think about it” are rewarded.
I like the Irish Wolfhounds that protect the satue. great dogs.
YES! yes. Irish Wolfhounds. great dogs. >>> isn't it oddly comforting to read strangers' comments about details you yourself noticed [like 'la guernica' and the pig]
only the dog on our right is an irish wolfhound. the one on the left is a lurcher i think.
Reminds me of the dogs protecting the gates of Hades
"You've got something in your teeth."
Theo's negging in this film is really intelligently wrought. Watch thru and pay attention to the several times he says harmless little things that all the same totally undermine the posture of the character hes talking to. It's very telling about his character. He gets thru (almost) the entire film without physically harming anyone. Hes not an action hero, hes no warrior. Hes a rogue. Skates through the entire film by the tip of his tongue and stealth.
"Jeez, your breath stinks."
@@lazyatthedisco It was Charlie Hunnam by the way, i didn't see Green Street Hooligans at that time.
That's a great take on it, never thought about it like that.. Totally accurate
Amazing assessment
My fan theory is that Alex was in prison or involved with gang activity hence the street/prison tattoos on his hand and neck. He has a deep scare on his face which to me resembles a bullet wound, perhaps he was a spoiled powerful rich kid with no real direction or purpose in life and took pleasure in criminal life and violent behavior. Since his dad is so powerful he usually always gets out of legal trouble somehow. Maybe he eventually got shot in the face and became mentally or physically disabled from it. Now he lives a life of house arrest and probation, maybe apart of his sentencing is to have a mandatory prescription to a mood balancer kinda like future riddaline but with no FDA oversight. No he lives docile life heavily medicated to suppress his violent behavior as hence why Nigile easily freaked out when his son wasn’t complying to his mandatory meds.
Riddalin? You mean risperidone? Your theory does make sense though and definitely fits in with the dark themes.
Yeah, he’s based on Chet Hanks.
I always wondered why Alex looked like that or what he’s was doing but definitely this makes perfect sense!
Yeah he likely ran with all the other angry youth. Only his position meant he wasn't going to be treated as badly as them.
So he is Alex DeLarge (Whose name was probably taken for the character), but rich and with caring parents.
I love the use of contrast in this scene or scenes... we see the common people... all crowded together in a state of distress.
Then Clive Owen is driven out to the country, where it's isolated. Then into this guys mansion... nothing but space... any food or drink he wants... plunder.
Really shows how one person with power and money lives like an alien compared with the masses.
Nice analysis, but it's worth pointing out that the 'mansion' in this scene is actually supposed to be the 'Ark of Arts', a refurbished (and digitally enhanced) Battersea Power Station - still very much within London, and only two or three miles from the street that we first see Theo being driven down. You get the impression that we're moving out into the country just because the route goes past some of London's large parks.
At the time of filming, Battersea Power Station was just a shell, having been decommissioned and left to rot for decades - but that whole area has now been redeveloped and the restored Power Station will be host to a campus, shops, events venue and roof gardens.
It's meant to be within a few km's of the masses you just saw. You saw that military blockade? That's them separating the elite from the plebs. Theo is meant to work for some government ministry, likely getting the job due to his connections. Heh as relatives inside the elite world, but he lives with everyone else, albeit a bit better than most.
The checkpoint they pass through is Admiralty Arch, closely associated with the government quarter, centered on Whitehall
I saw this movie for the first time a few years back, and I thought my music on my phone went off during this scene. It blew me away! I loved this and the Animals tribute in the next scene.
The inflatable pig is a nice bit of foreshadowing, too.
Love how his brother bought the property to make into an album cover as a home.
This is one of the most effective song choices for a scene in film history
You know, there are hundreds of references to more mainstream, blockbuster, sci-fi fare like Inception, and Children of Men is still far far superior in tackling it's subject matter. It's the end of the world in slow motion. It's all of humanity dying from cancer all at once. It's the Radiohead of thought-provoking sci-fi.
The short-lived series "Y: The Last Man" was only just starting to show the world's degeneration due to phenomena causing the slow end of humanity
I swear 2020 is starting to look more and more like this movie...
Just wait until the Covid vaccine is released. It'll make this look like child's play.
The islamisation of the west is playing a big part. I have nothing against muslims, just stating a fact.
@@NiekKuijpers Or the rise of nationalists like yourself pretending like some religion is responsible, not late stage capitalism taking effect, failures in our systems, overzealous conservative dogma trying to create a more and more oppressive world for people of any identity.
Inshallah, comrade. The death of the west comes with putting trans women in video games, and the more there are, the more evil communism there is.
@@NiekKuijpers You are literally an idiot. You think ISLAM is responsible for the collapse of an already collapsing West? This has been a LONG time coming, FAR predating the refugee crisis. Capitalism has been consuming itself for over a century, and we're approaching a point where Capitalism can no longer adapt to its own over consumption. And you think this is bad? Climate change is set to cause the greatest refugee crisis this world has ever seen, with 150 MILLION climate refugees expected by 2050. You think Islam caused that too?
@@NiekKuijpers It saddens me how someone can watch such a beautiful work of art that is this film and come out completely missing the point.
If only the world today realizes the relative impact of this epic moment in cinematic history has on the future shall it become reality or remain fiction
I can’t be the only one that would pay to see a prequel with Nigel and a SAS detail trying to get the Pieta
damn, forgot how this movie was so awesome.
Great movie & great music!
And we’ve never again been treated to a movie with similar background shots. Just look how full and lived in the backdrops are in the first minute of the clip. Various groups and individuals going about their day. A band playing in the park. Incredible. And it all tells a substory while the protag makes his way to the compound. Rich and poor are divided. High contrast between both halves. The laws themselves have been relaxed to the point where affluent people have zebras and camels as pets.
I need to watch this again, it's been a while.
Lol, love how Nigel just keeps on trucking and ultimately is that much further ahead when fertility (by implication) DOES came back at the story’s end
One Baby does not humanity's salvation make.
@@Circa1628
One Rediscovery of How to Successfully Gestate Babies _does._
If nothing else, it's a salvation to the species even if all previous generations pass away...though, I certainly would hope _that_ baby and its schlüt mother aren't the only things left humanity has to show for its enduring struggle.
@@Circa1628 Yes, but the implication is that if she can give birth, so can other women.
I always thought In The Court of the Crimson King sounded like the score to an apocalypse. Looks like Cuaron took that literally. Great choice
4:05, the background pig and chimney stacks are a ode to the Pink Floyd, Animals album cover art.
the first 1.30 minutes of this is movie genius. bravo.
Some movies you dont think will be medicore, you arent exicted about it at all. You put it on anyway because you are bored. But it makes a indelibable impression that you can never forget. This one such movie.
One of the most beautiful dashboards in car history
Appropriate given he's collecting all the art
The most underrated film of all time in my opinion….. still don’t understand how it wasn’t more talked about when it came out…..
Might be that the concept was just too depressing for mainstream audiences.
@@kentvesser9484 Yeah, it is very downbeat with an ambiguous ending (very British!) which sadly wouldn't have the wide appeal of a typical Hollywood blockbuster.
Magnus is looking out through his single eye, gazing across the warp, with an amused smile.
MAGNUS DID NOTHING WRONG
One of the most compelling, and most violent, of any films I’ve viewed.
The location-hopping is interesting - from The Mall (which leads up to Buckingham Palace) to Battersea Power Station (opposite direction to the palace), and then the interior shot of them arriving which is the Turbine Hall at Tate Modern. Works very well.
Michael in the entrance, Guernica on a kitchen wall and shortly later pigs fly. wealth beyond human understanding
Interesting how the song goes from soundtrack to diegetic, seamlessly.
Is there a more underrated film? Everything about it is so uncomfortable and disturbing, just perfection
Great Animals reference.
This movie needs a second part.
First time hearing this song on the movie when it first camr out and fell in love with it. Its like a lonley bard singing the demise of a court jester while everyone dies around hin.
@IntrepidTit oh yeah all music is open to interpretation by the Listener's.
love this film
Did he predict iPad kids man? I’m tripping out
They even called Zeds in the script lol
Would you like to see Britannia rule again, my friend...all you have to do is follow the worms.
Pink floyd lol
Ah! Bliss!
Great movie, thanks for the post
Remember when these animated, full-colour advertisements on buildings and buses were just the height of sci-fi? And this is from 2006!
This great movie and Idiocracy swimming around in my head
Not a big Clive Owen fan but he was perfect in this role
I rewatched this movie halfway through the second lockdown, that's when I realised we were right on track...
@IntrepidTit ah yes, it wasn't the 2 world wars or the cold war that sat on the brink of nuclear war.
NOW we're on the way.
Seriously?
Yet nothing fkin happened at the end of this
Did anyone notice the Picasso painting on the wall. That painting depicts the bombing and massacre of a town named Guernica in Northern Spain. This was done by Fascists during the Spanish Civil War. The bombing was ordered by Francisco Franco to quash the resistance in that region and to gain control over it. The bombing mission was meant to destroy military targets but it ended in tragedy as many civilians were blown up and killed during the attack. If you can see, the figures in the painting are the townsfolk who were bombed- disfigured, mangled, mixed-up and distorted in the violence. I think it was nice addition to the scene in the sense that it gives a feeling of foreboding, an eerie retelling of the theme of government trying to control people during times of war and crisis. To use any means necessary to "keep the peace" and enforce its ideology, laws and policies on the population.
actually, the painting was part of a series of works against bullfighting, and what you see are bulls and horses being tortured and killed (in those days, the horses died as well). He was halfway through it when Guernica happened. He didn't know much about the details, as there are no pictures or film of the actual event and only a few pictures of the empty ruins afterwards, so he just added some people.
@@helloxyz where is that info from?
I think the Guernika picture is a foreshadowing of the denouement of the film when the refugee detention centre of Bexhill is bombed by the RAF.
@@ballyhigh11 Agreed!
Does anyone Notice the section of the Berlin wall in the back-round as the car drives into the warehouse ?
its not its a banksey piece
Good to see this post & that this great movie is still in someones mind. The movie is predictive like Orwell was . What the film portrays could indeed come to pass given the way things are going in the U.K.
what a masterpiece. kubrick would love this movie
I never noticed the flying Pig in the background. Pink Floyd reference?
Yes
this film was a prophecy
London, one year after Brexit...
Underrated post!
If it means people are listening to king crimson then I like a post brexit Britain
Citizen Four I mean, every other country survived the great recession too.
People will be happy the UK is independent when this global debt crisis hits. The entire EU will be dragged down by the periphery countries with excess debt. At least the UK stands a chance by having removed itself.
@@tommy35ssNow they got no fuel and the UK will approve permission to UE drivers to work in it's land.
LOL
I think they could have easily fit in Epitaph in the movie as well.
The wall on which the prophets wrote
Is cracking at the seams.
Upon the instruments of death
The sunlight brightly gleams.
When every man is torn apart
With nightmares and with dreams,
Will no one lay the laurel wreath
As silence drowns the screams.
Between the iron gates of fate,
The seeds of time were sown,
And watered by the deeds of those
Who know and who are known;
Knowledge is a deadly friend
When no one sets the rules.
The fate of all mankind I see
Is in the hands of fools.
Confusion will be my epitaph.
As I crawl a cracked and broken path
If we make it we can all sit back
And laugh.
But I fear tomorrow I'll be crying,
Yes I fear tomorrow I'll be crying.
Man, i wish they used that instead, one of my favourite songs, but in the Court of the crimson king is so good as well
One of the great scenes in film history. Right up there with any of the greats.
Saw this on a couple doses and man this movie hits
This kind of Victorian industrial architecture always has intimidated me 0:59 .
Battersea was started in 1929 (post Victorian) and is art deco in design
@@carmadme you are right
Come to Russia, it's an everyday sight
“See you on the pink side of the floyd” 🎶🎶🎶🎶
my parents took me to see Pink Floyd in Kansas City for the Animals Tour that pig floated around the arena with red lights in the eyes
This and 'Soylent Green' are the most perfect predictions of our demise. I only wish the possibility of actually witness it weren't so strong.
So far so good. Soylent Green took place in 2022
Soylent Green....you are aware that the current collapse of the global birth rates is our problem, not overpopulation as always and falsely claimed.
"....most perfect prediction."
We have a good 20-35 years left thank goodness. We'll be past our prime when the end arrives.
@@asacloutier7530 my great granddaughter won’t
Is the shot by the window a reference to Pink Floyd’s animals album cover???
Is that pink floyd animals in the back?
1:14 Is that a Bansky paint ?!
Damn
Wow good eye
Yeah. I dont think he was that famous outside of the U.K. back in 2006. I might be wrong.
@@Vladdyboy oh he was trust me
Anyone ever notice how this film mirrors lord of the flies? takes place on island with no hope of procreation or future, emphasis on othering processes, hope comes in the form of a boat in the end. most notably lord of the flies being beelzebub aka the crimson king.
have searched online and never found any mention of the two titles together
God, I love this movie...
"youve got something in your tooth" ive used that line so many times haha its very effective
Watching a King Cirmson video with a Pink Floyd reference...
In addition to Greg Lake's inspiring voice and Fripp's mellotron playing in the background, you can also see that the Battersea Power Station has a giant pig floatie near its smokestacks. This is the closest any apocalyptic film has ever gotten to being a prog rock record.
Iconic BatterSea and PF cameo Piggy. Maybe Clive Owen's best work.
Look at 00:59 ! There is a pig from Pink Floyd Animals album above the chimneys!
A very significant film in the field of dystopia and the genre of science fiction that shows a demonstration of the power of the rich and privileged living in the intoxication of great food of wine and amazing music in this case King Crimson where Brian Eno also performed and the music is great and underscores the subverted and dysfunctional world of the reign of terror and insecurity, as already shown by Fritz Lang Film Metropolis or Blade Runner of 1982, which also belong to this genre and also the meaning show scum and human scum in coexistence with each other
Movie is a Masterpiece.
"I just don't think about it." This summarizes our entire culture.
5 years from now…we are close to 2027 being the present…so crazy…
What's the difference between this scene and the UK now?
The buses are a bit more square.
Pink Floyd - Animals - My favourite album.
I'd say this may be my favourite film too.
"Alex ......take your pills."
ALEX !! ! ! ! ! !! !!!
One of the few times the film blows the book out of the water
Just as when I first saw the film, it's bone-chilling to see how humanity may act once we're forced to face the end.
does anyone know the name of the classic music that plays in the background while Nigel and Theo talk
This movie was an insight of things to come
YOU GIVE GOOD DIRECTIONS
Still the most accurate vision of what this country will become in the next few years. Great film by the way if you haven't seen it.