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1:00:13 a good rule of thumb for raising IP is assessing gap between your current equity and the EQR of your hand. If there is a big gap, there is an incentive to increase your betting volume with that hand. And if you have a ton of such hands, it starts to dictate your overall strategy. On this spot a hands like AQ/KQ/ AA/KK aren’t that vulnerable that they need to jam on the turn. And this is your asymmetrical region vs BB. It’s your asymmetrical range that dictates strategy. Also, you need to have raising ranges as IP. Otherwise you are a “punching bag”. OOP can start betting all its 1P hands and get to even draw out against your current value with rivered 2P.
44:57 I think the impact of protection is underrated here. BB has a wide range that called. It’s the covering stack. BTN’s AK/AJ, low pp have an incentive to fold out a ton of offsuit air in BB range. Plus as Fedor mention before the band started that BB is forced to defend some trashy Ax/Kx and if he doesn’t betting range works even better. Now I agree that some value hands don’t want the pot to grow,l plus under ICM fedor’s value threshold for 3streets is very high. But I think flop is still early days and there is a ton of benefit in cleaning up your outs and getting protection. A7o is kinda a neat hand to Chet. Folds out high Ax combos like A8,A9,AT maybe, but gets called by A5, A4. It also folds out trash which a lot of combos
2:06:00 I hate to say this but this K2 double barrel isn’t common on all boards. You change the board from Q72 9 to Q82 9 and lot of these Kx/ Ax might disappear. I think it’s important to understand why these show up and what are they trying to achieve. Also, these do not really work if you misapply the sizing. Dan when 80% pot. Maybe cause of ICM but it’s less effective at that bet size. But more importantly it’s highly dependent on what the response is. BB is expected to fold KQ/AQ to a large cbet. If that isn’t happening your K2 is -EV. Also if you bungle river you are even more fucked it’s your K2. Playing with pattern recognition and playing with the understanding of “why” are 2 different levels of poker. The second one is called “ on the fly solver”
55:22 this is a misconception. Having less Qx rfi range doesn’t mean you have less TP on the flop. It’s always the proportion of the overall range. The factors that make you open less Qx also make you open less trash which have the effect of diluting the proportion of TP on the flop. Except under very heavy ICM, or 4Bet pot conditions do the construction of rfi range affects the proportion of TP. Obviously rank of the TP is relevant but you get the point?
Great questions and answers. Learned a lot and it was entertaining, too. About the security problems: I wonder if the only solution is a proctorio type system that's used to monitor people taking exams at home. Flag a reg for playing 'too good' or they have suspicious timing and then have them play with a webcam. Big invasion of privacy, but there's no other way to keep the games fair imo.
1:09:17 this is highly sus. Threshold for thin value bet for IP is higher when it’s closing the action on the river. It’s way way higher under ICM. Reopening the action and then getting jammed on is a disaster. It’s enough to destroy your win rate
Feeling a bit discouraged from this podcast episode. From what I understand, if you'd not putting in 30+ hours of study each week, it's almost impossible to become a successful poker player. What I mean by successful is even having the possibility of winning a bracelet or trophy, and to even think of the high roller scene is not within reach?
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1:00:13 a good rule of thumb for raising IP is assessing gap between your current equity and the EQR of your hand. If there is a big gap, there is an incentive to increase your betting volume with that hand. And if you have a ton of such hands, it starts to dictate your overall strategy. On this spot a hands like AQ/KQ/ AA/KK aren’t that vulnerable that they need to jam on the turn. And this is your asymmetrical region vs BB. It’s your asymmetrical range that dictates strategy. Also, you need to have raising ranges as IP. Otherwise you are a “punching bag”. OOP can start betting all its 1P hands and get to even draw out against your current value with rivered 2P.
Super interesting content, can’t wait for more podcasts!
Thank you!
More to come!
That was awesome! I can´t wait to watch other episodes!
More coming soon
44:57 I think the impact of protection is underrated here. BB has a wide range that called. It’s the covering stack. BTN’s AK/AJ, low pp have an incentive to fold out a ton of offsuit air in BB range. Plus as Fedor mention before the band started that BB is forced to defend some trashy Ax/Kx and if he doesn’t betting range works even better. Now I agree that some value hands don’t want the pot to grow,l plus under ICM fedor’s value threshold for 3streets is very high. But I think flop is still early days and there is a ton of benefit in cleaning up your outs and getting protection.
A7o is kinda a neat hand to Chet. Folds out high Ax combos like A8,A9,AT maybe, but gets called by A5, A4. It also folds out trash which a lot of combos
Found this thru the latest chip race episode and glad I followed thru to check it out,really good episode! Can't wait to check out the rest
Welcome to GTO LAB
Super enjoyable vibe and very entertaining. Thank you for the great content!
Glad you enjoyed it!
Love it! Great content, very fun conversation and really unique podcast style.
Glad you enjoyed it!
Feels like this is going to be a great resource in the poker space. Thanks Jaffe and team 👊
Thanks Josh
Thanks Josh, that’s the goal
This was a great show. Very chill vibe, funny and insightful.
Great podcast. Looking forward to seeing more
Awesome, thank you!
It won't be easy to top these first two guests.
Instantly subscribed. Great first episode. Can’t wait for more!
Thanks for the support 🙏
2:06:00 I hate to say this but this K2 double barrel isn’t common on all boards. You change the board from Q72 9 to Q82 9 and lot of these Kx/ Ax might disappear.
I think it’s important to understand why these show up and what are they trying to achieve. Also, these do not really work if you misapply the sizing. Dan when 80% pot. Maybe cause of ICM but it’s less effective at that bet size. But more importantly it’s highly dependent on what the response is. BB is expected to fold KQ/AQ to a large cbet. If that isn’t happening your K2 is -EV. Also if you bungle river you are even more fucked it’s your K2.
Playing with pattern recognition and playing with the understanding of “why” are 2 different levels of poker. The second one is called “ on the fly solver”
Amazing podcast, keem them coming please!
sick content, great host, great guest!
Legends. Loved it
JJ, you are super articulate, sharp, and prepared... props.
55:22 this is a misconception. Having less Qx rfi range doesn’t mean you have less TP on the flop. It’s always the proportion of the overall range. The factors that make you open less Qx also make you open less trash which have the effect of diluting the proportion of TP on the flop. Except under very heavy ICM, or 4Bet pot conditions do the construction of rfi range affects the proportion of TP. Obviously rank of the TP is relevant but you get the point?
Great content. Keep it up!
Appreciate it!
Love the hand analysis!
This hand analysis is an absolute goldmine, thanks guys!
enjoy this great job esp mixing in hand reviews !
Amazing stuff!!!
Glad you enjoyed it Jacobo
Great content! GL!
Tyty
Great pod!
amazing work :D
Thanks! 😄
Fedor rocks! Great interview. Would love to hear you chat with Jason K and Nicky P.
Good news David…Nicky P ep recorded the other day, should be edited and released within a couple weeks! Likely Ike Haxton or Stevie Chadwick next
Great podcast, could you please post a new link for the discord? It says invalid/expired when you click it
discord.gg/Qxq3yNCSGX Thanks for the feedback. Here is the updated discord link.
Amazing content
Thanks 🙏
Great questions and answers. Learned a lot and it was entertaining, too.
About the security problems: I wonder if the only solution is a proctorio type system that's used to monitor people taking exams at home. Flag a reg for playing 'too good' or they have suspicious timing and then have them play with a webcam. Big invasion of privacy, but there's no other way to keep the games fair imo.
Great!!!!
1:09:17 this is highly sus. Threshold for thin value bet for IP is higher when it’s closing the action on the river. It’s way way higher under ICM. Reopening the action and then getting jammed on is a disaster. It’s enough to destroy your win rate
what type of fish do you have in the tank @GTOLAB, looks nice
Jonathan's partner says thank you..
It’s a Florida biotope
Florida flagfish
Sailfin mollies
Bluefin killifish
Least killifish
Peninsula newt
good insights
will these be made available on podcast platforms?
It’s not planned, but never say never. We are gonna start with UA-cam
Feeling a bit discouraged from this podcast episode. From what I understand, if you'd not putting in 30+ hours of study each week, it's almost impossible to become a successful poker player. What I mean by successful is even having the possibility of winning a bracelet or trophy, and to even think of the high roller scene is not within reach?
No you can get it by not studying and getting really lucky. Studying will just increase your chances dramatically
German 🐐
legionnaires disease! i remember that!
You say nice kid, you know the root word of nice? It comes from nothing, just a front. Charismatic scumbags in the space move like that
I just learned something new, nice!