The Return to High-Stakes Poker | Fedor Holz

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  • Опубліковано 8 вер 2024

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  • @bryan-still-a-poker-player
    @bryan-still-a-poker-player 6 місяців тому +53

    Seems to me rake being too high is a bigger issue than MDA

    • @Lexngton
      @Lexngton 6 місяців тому

      MDMA?

    • @bryan-still-a-poker-player
      @bryan-still-a-poker-player 6 місяців тому +10

      @@Lexngton mdma ain't an issue imo

    • @Lexngton
      @Lexngton 6 місяців тому +3

      @@bryan-still-a-poker-player Yeah, maybe it's the solution even

    • @paint9922
      @paint9922 6 місяців тому +1

      ​@@Lexngton😂😂😂

    • @GodMode714
      @GodMode714 6 місяців тому +2

      Mass data analysis. Mda for everyone that doesn’t know what MDA is which is probably 99.9999 percent of people.

  • @koreanpuppylol
    @koreanpuppylol 6 місяців тому +34

    You'd expect someone like Fedor a young relatively newly established clearly very smart cordial guy to actually be on the side of the poker pros and people who are trying to make a living through the poker dream and not be some delusional guy who only cares about his own pocket and acts like a politician when it comes to these issues the poker community has (like dnegs). But no, its very clear that all he cares about is his own career and pocket and he will never call out GG for their wrong doings. Their cash game rake is disgraceful and unjustifiable, cheating on their website etc. However, all he will yap about is MDA which is the thing that allows people to actually catch bots and cheating in the first place... And nothing but the copy paste "I don't wanna lose my GG cash cow" responses from Fedor about the issues that actually matter. He's lost a lot of peoples respect in this way and I hope who realises that, not that he cares, he's made it very clear all he cares about is $$$.

    • @SuperREDXIII13
      @SuperREDXIII13 6 місяців тому +2

      I love ppl who complain because they never move up in life. Yea Fedor fault for everything that happened to you.

    • @AndreasFroehliPoker
      @AndreasFroehliPoker 6 місяців тому +3

      Or he is just correct and you are projecting

    • @TimeHandler
      @TimeHandler 6 місяців тому +2

      Take your meds.

    • @brainflux117
      @brainflux117 6 місяців тому +1

      The only poker pros with an ounce of integrity are Jason Koon (and Phil Galfond). Fedor doesn't care about anything except himself and his GG Paycheck.

    • @TimeHandler
      @TimeHandler 6 місяців тому +3

      @@brainflux117 I assume you're unhappy with the rake.
      High rake times and low rake times, are a thing in online poker.
      Think about it this way.
      Would you rather a site, charge medium rake all the time, and the games eventually die?
      Or would you rather they charge low rake (or offer substantial rake-back) when the games die, and high-rake when the games are filled with action and are super beatable?
      Lets explore the medium rake option:
      1) Medium rake means the games are just as beatable all the time, more or less.
      2) But the games will become less and less beatable over time, because more and more spots at the table will be filled with someone who takes the game seriously. And not many new/old players join/rejoin the site, because there isn't an outstanding reason to.
      3) So poker gets harder over time, as well as less profitable for most people. Meaning from an outside perspective, the reasons to start playing, diminish quickly.
      So what about switching it up between high and low rake?
      1) Low rake/high rakeback when games are dead, will obviously attract some old players back into the games, and any kind of free cashback promotion will attract plenty of new players too.
      2) High rake, will then drive away all those players who were just breaking even, or slightly winning, which will initially boost winrates for everyone. The few good players who stick around, won't be able to put as much pressure on the fish, as 5 "regs" would. So the fish have a good time, and the best players have a good time.
      3) When the games eventually die, because everyone knows whether they are/aren't profitable, and less and less of the unprofitable players continue to play. Well, they just lower the rake again!
      4) Once they lower the rake again, the best players make a SHIT tonne of money, and many people will talk about it, including them, as far as everyone on the outside of poker can see, "This game is easy money"... Which is EXACTLY how you attract the maximum amount of new players.
      5) But if you keep the rake low forever, eventually we run into same problem of, unprofitable players, know they are unprofitable, and have no reason to think things will change so they leave the games, and then everyone makes less and less money, and then "poker is dead" right? If this happens when the rake was low, they're screwed. If it happens when the rake is high? They can lower the rake again, and it will attract plenty of people to play. If it happened when the rake was low, what will attract people to play? Negative rake? Think about it.
      Unfortunately there is nothing Fedor can do, this is actually how a poker business is supposed to operate when peaking in popularity as far as i can see... But i'm no expert, just a poker player attempting to analyse the situation. If you have any pushbacks, don't hesitate, i am also here to learn.

  • @brickingbad9099
    @brickingbad9099 6 місяців тому +11

    At 20:32 he admitted using colleagues' hand histories to work out opponents' game? MDA not that bad back then, lol

  • @joas162
    @joas162 3 місяці тому

    Good stuff. Incredible value if you're willing to put in the hours.

  • @Allin4x
    @Allin4x 6 місяців тому +2

    About time now I can watch this 10x😡. Stop sitting on these fire videos

  • @luckywhale_nuts1098
    @luckywhale_nuts1098 6 місяців тому +1

    Really great interview, thank you Fedor for giving us so much free information.
    Much appreciated 🙏 🐐
    Keep going and good luck with all your businesses and your holistic life 🫶

  • @hschuler7892
    @hschuler7892 6 місяців тому +5

    Lol. All Fedor cares about is his GG paycheck. It's ok though. Deep down he knows he's wrong and will have to live with that as a burden on his mind.

  • @TimeHandler
    @TimeHandler 6 місяців тому +1

    Strapping in for this one. Fedor is an absolute 🐐

  • @oliverjordan695
    @oliverjordan695 6 місяців тому +4

    The prince of poker.. nice

  • @teiuq
    @teiuq 6 місяців тому +1

    Really interesting answers by Fedor!

  • @KDils69
    @KDils69 6 місяців тому

    Description should say that we can sign up to be on the waitlist. I keep getting baited in these uploads

  • @machko87
    @machko87 6 місяців тому +16

    One of the biggest hypocrites in poker community by far

    • @stein2137
      @stein2137 6 місяців тому +1

      how come?

    • @machko87
      @machko87 6 місяців тому

      ​@@stein2137His whole presence in last few years is how he wants to help players to grow, preaching healthy mindset, lifestyle etc etc yet, meanwhile he is ambassador of biggest gangsters in poker, platform that doesn't care about players, extracting zillions from the ecosystem, rake is getting higher and higher anually, they had crazy security issues and scandals recently and he didn't tweeted a thing about it, but then suddenly he is so vocal about MDA and how terrible it is for the game. Maybe we should prioritize bigger things that are happening on GG? He sided with network that is paying him instead siding with poker players who are his teammates and sharing the grind with him. At this point he is just the same as DNegz, puppet for whoever offers biggest paycheck

    • @machko87
      @machko87 6 місяців тому

      @@stein2137Fedor is already building for years his overall presence as a nice guy who is trying to inspire other young regs to live well balanced/healthy lifestyle/mindset etc etc Meanwhile, he is ambassador of biggest gangsters poker ever saw, they are now making rake increases almost annually and he is not talking anything publicly against it, the super user scandal wasn't even mentioned by him publicly and GG is so gangsta that they tried to increase rake immediately after the super user scandal which is INSANE. They are all pretending they are promoting the game, but you have people that are losing money on the platform without even playing (just look at people who are buying those insane markups for MTT tournaments) and he is not addressing any of these things but the guys like him should be the voice of players because after all, a lot of players are actually his friends. The fact he is talking loudly about MDA and problems of MDA like that's the most important thing really tells how far away we are from getting any progress with GG putting infinite money in their pockets, meanwhile even in this podcast he admitted of looking at other people's hand history (which he didn't played himself) so how is that different to problem he is trying to solve if he is using hands from his stable as well? And he forgets also very important borderline ethical thing how all of his crew were swapping % massively in high rollers and no matter what everyone will say, that's still an edge for a team of players who are doing it. It's a difference if someone can make it on High stakes or not.

  • @dwarner9158
    @dwarner9158 6 місяців тому

    Stephen Chidwick and Ike Haxton don’t seem to care if their opponent is on a heater. They play their game the same way

  • @WarmanHipHop
    @WarmanHipHop 6 місяців тому

    Yesss!

  • @330miggs
    @330miggs 5 місяців тому

    15" POKER HAAAAARRRRDDD

  • @carlostere234
    @carlostere234 5 місяців тому

    15:06