The crazy thing is it's just paper . Debt notes backed by nothing . Basicly scamming the scammers, the ultimate sting . They hate being beat at their own game using their own game plan . The whole thing is insanity .
The changing the required paperwork to get a loan to go through was happening at every broker house in the country. I had a lot of friends that were loan officers and it ran ramped everywhere prior to 2008. On top of that, borrowers where terrible with their money. They would start the loan refinancing proccess to pay off credit cards, but then would do things like buy a brand new BMW before the financing went through. A hiccup would happen in the low interest loan proccess and they would accept an adjustable rate loan just to get it processed since they already spent the money. A couple years later, the rate changes and now they can't afford the rate from the interest jumping. They start defaulting and we have 2008. I literally watched the prossess happen. Even my loan officer friends could see the problem, but nobody understood what the consequences would lead to. Add in banks doing irresponsible stuff too, and we have 2008.
@@reggaevibes100that was the era of government group think of ‘everyone’ should have access to homeownership because it was seen as the foundation of generational wealth. LOL.
@@NewlinjimThat's the story they sold. They knew what would happen, it was orchestrated by the banks, Wall Street and the Fed. To top it off it was endorsed by Congress.
You're right that's why he's rich and I believe he will become president one day, everything is based on your social skills and intuition and how well you can convey them through speech edit... I forget he wasn't born here so if he was born here he would be president
Us Jamaicans like to say, "Theif never love to see thief with long bag". Translation: the biggest theives and fraudsters, banks and the government never want to see people doing the same as them.
You're actually right you hit the spot lots of the Gangnam words and bankers that's why he was an FBI that's where he learned he was in the rice coal detectives FBI CIA federal government C2 Financial CD lawmakers and all work the same
@@floggyWM1 Just using Greedy people's Greed against them, and capitalizing on existing loopholes. Which btw...Did you listen, the loopholes are Still wide open.
@@JustAnotherJarhead i dont see how he was using greedys peoples greed against them, when he said he has stole many peoples identities and took out loans on houses that he rented from other people while on the run..
My take is he'll do nothing stupid for the sake of his mother, to be able to visit her until she passes. He probably would do everything to avoid putting her through that again, he seems to genuinely love her. BUT after the fact, it'll be game on 😂
Pat... its like you've said a lot of times: "pick one industry and become an expert..." and that's what he did!!! No diversification here. He found a "business model" that worked and scaled it. That's a huge lesson I got for legit businesses.
Lol! It was a continuing criminal enterprise. Specifically, the law categorize it as an enterprise or a business model that is illegal. So, it is kind of a business, I’ll be at extremely illegal. Not something I would duplicate. LOL!
This poured salt on my personal wounds. My husband refinanced our house thru Countrywide in 2007 without me and ended up losing it after we had been living there since 1989. Then he committed suicide and at 57 I became a widow. I'm still trying to recover and it has been nine years. I was married 37 yrs and we met when were 16. Just saying damn.
@@livingaboard my husband had no intentions of refinancing our home, until Countrywide called and persuaded him to do it. They didn't care what he did as long as they "helped him". The transaction was technically not legal. There was a class action law suit, but I didn't get any benefit from it. Long story but that is a ride but.
This man has been caught plenty of times and STILL managed to stay ice cold cool under pressure, Secret Service was after him and everything. What he did was wrong but really admire how cool, calm, and collected he remained the whole time until he finally went to jail. Good interview!
@@Okhero777 Well he is a narcissist so... its not like he was "talented" he literally lacks the capacity for empathy. I'd anticipate half of his relationships are a lie as explained there.
@@Petpawsitivecareyea…. I think the fact that the guy is cool calm and collected when committing these crimes is a pretty good indicator that this dude is a narcissist. He admits to it, and owns up to him being a rat but the main point we should put across is….. just make money legally and do the right things.
Matt tells his full story on his own channel "inside true crime". Its over 6 hours long and is one of the best stories, if not the best ive ever heard. The entire thing is gripping from start to finish!
His story is a joke dude told on someone to get out his own bull crap and who he told on had nothing to do with him or his case 😂 . Meaning who he told on was not the reason the police was knocking at his door and he just tells on his friend he knows is doing illegal things so he could get off on his case 😢 dude did all this illegal things and tells on someone that had nothing to do with his case dudes a coward
And not only that he makes videos reacting to things he knows nothing about I literally laugh at this guy thinking he can speak on prison when he was in the lowest security federal prisons around child and women touchers
@@inkedBc he did 4 years in medium before moving to low. Admittedly he can be a boomer when it comes to some of his reactions but hes trying his best as a 50 year old recently released from prison to catch a break, im rooting for him, and however amateurish some of his videos might sometimes be, im highly entertained by his channel
@@inkedBc did you really put the morality of a conman into a position of judgement? American intelligence truly has decayed. You do realize he's not a gangster but a conman? You're viewing him based on your own perception of your own world of crime which is not the same as his. From that I can assume you're not a very intelligent individual.
I love being a black man. Absolutely love it. But I'd be lying if I denied ever thinking how sweet it would be to have that white privilege he got while I was doing the scam/hustle/jackin thing in my young an dum years
This guys sense of loyalty to his aging mother is amazing. I had a similar situation with my grandmother and "hung around" til she went on home RiP and i just had to say that right there is the best relationship ive ever had . Badass interview
He was living large for 3 years, then spent 26 years in prison. Anyone making that choice GOT HUSTLED... You cannot escape the consequences of evil choices
Most of the time the punishment and time is much less. I could steal 50 million through white collar fraud and get 5-10 years first offense. Get caught selling a couple ounces of crack and get 25+ years.
@@amikamisrael "For My people are foolish, They have not known Me. They are silly children, And they have no understanding. They are wise to do evil, But to do good." [Jeremiah 4:22] For those that won't bother to look it up.
learning disability only means one doesnt learn in conventional ways... it looks like a disability because the system isnt set up to interface with the individual.
He's not a genius he's a reckless spiv.. A theif who ruins peoples lives.. INCLUDING THE LIVES OF PEOPLE WHO WHEN THEY LOSE THEIR HOME AND FAMILY COMMITTE SUICIDE.. ' Do not revel in your sin '
So great to see this guy being interviewed by a true pro... I caught his story on another video and the interviewers were horrible. Matt Cox is a great story teller!
@@anlu3365 well momma is momma regardless of the devil u r... But once that glue that keeps him in check goes; then prepare for the return of the devil
the true genius of this guy is that he did all that and got away with only 12 years! and I`m sure he`s got some cash stashed somewhere. truly brilliant !
I am South African and spent a year in the USA, I got a socal security number you can use....I'm in South Africa so I am faaaaar from the problem hahaha
Agree, in spie of all the crimes he committed, all the people he took with him to prison, he does love his Mom. On that point alone he's shown he's a human being.
@@denniskalashnik98 Did your B.S. meter go off too. .? This guy knows one thing and one thing ONLY. . And, that's HOW to manipulate the SYSTEM. . So, everybody knows that we live in the digital age right. .? So, if he lives in Florida is not that big of a deal just as long as he has a computer and the internet he's still in business. . And, this whole thing about him caring for his Mom, well that's his perfect cover. .
Giving someone a loan that they can't pay back is not helpful. It will hurt their credit, put them in debt, and prevent them from getting another loan for at least 10 years. The only people this guy helped was himself and his co-conspirators.
T2x that is true for some but some people get rejected for their bad credit and not their inability to pay. I know several people who make a lot of money but their credit score blocks them.
DrainTheSwamp I thought so all along just he may have helped someone but your right he probably stole money from his clients purses if he got a chance. 👌
Patrick, thank you for putting in the time and resources to make these interviews. They are world-class. Your questions, your composure and ability to build rapport, the people -- it's amazing content.
@@TrickZ_Retz oh no convicts are abnormal (forseer) to the normal (dull minded) bcoz theyr thinkerz n 5 stepz ahead of normal. Especially when theyr bored, the need for action overrides their humaness. Like this guy...he wae able to out wit the bank, n thats their job! Spontaneous is their HiGH not drugs. Im not a criminal or convict. But i was in love w one for 20yrs...and i understood his mind, the way he thought, his need for action. He was fun...adventurous, n innovative. I miss him.
Jordan Belfort got carried away as he started out as legitimate. This guy made an immediate decision to commit massive fraud which does affect other people. I saw no remorse in this interview as he states he's up to do it again. This is a bad person.
I know one of the guys, that started eagle lending, I remember him telling me, he was leaving there, and I thought that was strange, haven't heard anything about them until now.
When I sold Realestate I remember one time looking at a contract and pointing out to a girl I worked with that they didn't sign and initial. She grabbed the pen outta my hand and signed and initialled just like the seller. I was floored.
Chad Jackson i understand why you said that but that was random & ignorant to say. The majority of illegal immigrants do not have nearly as much knowledge as someone like Michael to use that info for any malicious intent. Last time I checked I havnt seen illegal immigrants cause an economy to crash, more then once. Do the research CHAD & let the immigrants work ,thrive & even ADD to their communities. God bless & stay clean 🙏🏼
yeah no shyt. lo. whether the doc or the patient. the surgeon or the cancer patient. the thief... the whore. the john. the killer or the crooked drug enforcement cop.... you gotta work to get rich. well i mean unless born into it, etc.
Amazing how Cox turns us from being horrified at his actions to understanding them and even, dare I say, being OK with them. Very complex indeed! And excellent probing questions by Pat to unfold the story.
144Donn I know what I did was wrong and of course I regret it. However, nobody wants to see me constantly apologizing and crying about the sins of the past. I was asked to tell my story and I’m simply doing it to the best of my ability. 🤷🏼♂️ If I come off arrogant and a little bit obnoxious I apologize. I’m not trying to offend anyone.
@@InsideTrueCrime , not in the least, on the contrary, your openness and candor, and honesty about the past, reveals the journey that your life has taken, what was learned, and how you've grown from those experiences. Few are willing to come clean about misdeeds, and show a true change of heart, and I'm glad you are using your skills and talents in a legitimate manner today to prosper. There is a lot to be learned, and if we can't look back occasionally at our wilder days and laugh, then we can hardly enjoy and progress forward in life. Lessons learned, pass on what you know and continue to contribute to society!
Never undervalue your potential is what I've taken out of this. This was basically a master class, similar to one would get when going to prison. At least if you're paying any attention. Great story, and really smart guy.
everyone is a crook in this ecosystem - the fact that he was able to get away with what he did says a lot about the system he was operating within. Everybody was driven by greed and profits and were willing to turn a blind eye.
Matthew is a very successful man and I credit him having a great mother. He says he was "troubled" but this is a great example of how having a great mother helped him be successful in the past and even now after all the difficult times she is there for him. With that being said don't even think about telling me you think banks are here to help anyone. Banks are the biggest criminals in the world that CRUSH the working man's dreams with interest rates on money that doesn't even exist. Not to mention $35.00 overdraft fees on a $1.37 overdraft.
Finding loopholes is kind of a personality. Everywhere you go you see them and maybe on some cases exploit them. But ethics makes you think of the impact and restrict you based on your moral compass. But you will always see those loopholes even for little and simple things.
I’m a utility locator and I found so many loop holes to get out of work but I wasn’t raised like that and something inside me always tells me what if someone was looking and I look stupid trying to lie to someone about it 😂 my main thing is accountability and consequences unfortunately dudes like this guy get further ahead because of their lack of accountability or care of such a thing, that includes politicians too bastards don’t own up to a damn thing
Your interviews are so good and u have a knack for getting the good details to the questions no one else wants to or has the balls to ask. I love your confidence!
All this guy did was capitalize on the loopholes in the broken, corrupt banking system.... problem is that he didnt have the political connections that could cover for his ass, like the fed reserve and all banksters r doing today; on a much larger scale.
My dad did this for a living. He had multiple identities. He focused on insurance fraud. He would take the money from all the claims and make various small/medium businesses. He was gifted at running legit businesses. But he was a violent know it all. Treated everyone like garbage unless he thought you were potentially useful. Then he was charming and just happened to be your lucky day.
I know exactly what this guy is saying. I tried working as an honest loan broker back in the 90’s and found out that the corruption was my competition because my potential clients were as crooked as the lenders. After seeing how borrowers were getting ripped off (mostly by themselves) I wrote a computer program to help borrowers understand their finances and work out a plan that would work in their financial favor. What I had thought would sell like hotdogs did not sell at all because people didn’t really care what they would winde up paying as long as they got what they wanted ‘right now’. I was even threatened several times if I didn’t stop talking to lender’s customers/victims. All this guy in the interview did was make stupid/lazy/greedy people happy-until their loans were ultimately foreclosed for non-payment. Oh well, makes it easier to accept Trump’s alleged defeat-people generally deserve the shit they winde up with. I see this same bullshit on my TV every day-“Get everything you are ‘entitled’ to.” The entitlements they are hawking are as phony as a three dollar bill. Check out our national debt-we have run out of our parents/grandparents savings and are now using our kids/grandkids future credit. Kind of like ‘burning a candle from both ends’ but who will get burned in the end?!
Yup ppl love being lied to as long as it’s buttery sweet and something they want to hear. Seeing these politicians obviously pander to ppl and see ppl lap it up makes me realize that we are no different than the mobs of Medieval times.
Listening to his channel he talks highly of RDAP which is some program they offer in prison. Apparently it can be very good if the person taking it is honest about taking accountability and changing their thought patterns
You have an ability to find the most interesting guests - but they have found one of the kindest, most observant hosts - who after all, is learning how to protect himself from characters such as this should they ever try their shtick on you and yours. What a brilliant and interesting man. I absolutely did not want that man to be guilty. His stories were told with excitement, no choking or forgetting, so you know it isn't made up... he is a storyteller! Slick as they get ... and charming. I can understand how he made such a great living. It would be a perfect match for him b'cuz he is so tightly wired, he needs to keep things interesting in his life at that age -- good thing he calmed down since he had a lot of time to think of it. Great Show! Didn't want it to end.
Happy everyone seems to be enjoying the podcast, thank you again Patrick for having me on!
Matt did some of ur comments on here get erased?
Hope ur doing well man...
I hadn’t noticed, but it’s possible.
Seriously, I wish I was in a position to hire someone. I was just released from prison and I’m struggling to get myself on my feet. 🤷🏼♂️
I was getting angry several times hearing about you getting all this money but at 1:02:31 "It'll come to you" 😂🤣🤣😂 That had me laughing my ass off.
🤷🏼♂️
“Give a man a gun and he can rob a bank,Give a man a Bank and he can rob the world “-Wellick
Wow. Mind blown
2020visionproduction 👍🏾
This quote is based on the quote "What is the robbing of a bank against the founding of a bank?" by Berthold Brecht
The crazy thing is it's just paper .
Debt notes backed by nothing .
Basicly scamming the scammers, the ultimate sting . They hate being beat at their own game using their own game plan . The whole thing is insanity .
Give a man a degree in Fine arts and he can rob mortgage companies
Listening to this explains more about how the 2008 recession happened more than any book, movie, or congressional hearing.
My thoughts exactly
The govt got rid of the regulations stopping companies from buying this doo doo debt also
The changing the required paperwork to get a loan to go through was happening at every broker house in the country. I had a lot of friends that were loan officers and it ran ramped everywhere prior to 2008. On top of that, borrowers where terrible with their money. They would start the loan refinancing proccess to pay off credit cards, but then would do things like buy a brand new BMW before the financing went through. A hiccup would happen in the low interest loan proccess and they would accept an adjustable rate loan just to get it processed since they already spent the money. A couple years later, the rate changes and now they can't afford the rate from the interest jumping. They start defaulting and we have 2008. I literally watched the prossess happen. Even my loan officer friends could see the problem, but nobody understood what the consequences would lead to. Add in banks doing irresponsible stuff too, and we have 2008.
@@reggaevibes100that was the era of government group think of ‘everyone’ should have access to homeownership because it was seen as the foundation of generational wealth. LOL.
@@NewlinjimThat's the story they sold. They knew what would happen, it was orchestrated by the banks, Wall Street and the Fed. To top it off it was endorsed by Congress.
As a high pressure salesman, this man has a talent. The way he talks. His intonations. They’re perfect. If I could talk like that, I would be rich.
They really are!
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You're right that's why he's rich and I believe he will become president one day, everything is based on your social skills and intuition and how well you can convey them through speech edit... I forget he wasn't born here so if he was born here he would be president
@@csonracsonra9962 yes, the chance of someone wanting to running for president and getting elected are very high, infact, they're certain.
Scammer voice. Idk how anyone falls for it.
Us Jamaicans like to say, "Theif never love to see thief with long bag". Translation: the biggest theives and fraudsters, banks and the government never want to see people doing the same as them.
🇯🇲
You're actually right you hit the spot lots of the Gangnam words and bankers that's why he was an FBI that's where he learned he was in the rice coal detectives FBI CIA federal government C2 Financial CD lawmakers and all work the same
You fake Jamaicans
Bombaclads!!!
@@rohan692 Fake Patois
To everyone saying a degree in the arts is worthless..
I give you creativity in its finest form
Liberal arts....very liberal lol. Also called humanities bahahahaha
😂
👏👏👏👏👏👏 ..... Learning some creativity here
The guy is an expert manipulator and persuader. No one can teach you that....well, maybe the CIA. But you still need natural talent.
@J K Oh snap son
That spirit of fraud is still in him. Can’t hide it.
I feel the same. This guy is a devil ehehe
Sociopath that’s why, wouldn’t trust him as far as I can throw him
@@strokesidedesigns-rowingje5373 prolly doing this for the probation officer.. once he off the probation... u wont see him again
@@floggyWM1 Just using Greedy people's Greed against them, and capitalizing on existing loopholes. Which btw...Did you listen, the loopholes are Still wide open.
@@JustAnotherJarhead i dont see how he was using greedys peoples greed against them, when he said he has stole many peoples identities and took out loans on houses that he rented from other people while on the run..
As a banker this guy is pretty genius
I don’t see any regret on this mans face and that’s scary for the banks because this dude is really smart.
Thats true but he seams he has got control of himself
And he said he has a learning disability. I don't think so
@@KMF3 he has dyslexia
Fuck the banks good for this dude
My take is he'll do nothing stupid for the sake of his mother, to be able to visit her until she passes. He probably would do everything to avoid putting her through that again, he seems to genuinely love her. BUT after the fact, it'll be game on 😂
Pat... its like you've said a lot of times: "pick one industry and become an expert..." and that's what he did!!! No diversification here. He found a "business model" that worked and scaled it. That's a huge lesson I got for legit businesses.
henry igugu 🤷🏼♂️
Lol! It was a continuing criminal enterprise. Specifically, the law categorize it as an enterprise or a business model that is illegal. So, it is kind of a business, I’ll be at extremely illegal. Not something I would duplicate. LOL!
@@InsideTrueCrime I’m highly impressed sir, very clever👌🏽
@remixgod4496 formula that worked for the time being 😮
What a crazy story, should definitely be made into a Netflix series
Leonardo Di Caprio can play the lead role...
the show white collar is close enough, based off catch me if you can starring Leonardo Di Caprio
they did an episode on american greed on him
@@3boud84 Yep and I watched it back then when it first aired, crazy world!
@Dawud Storm well so is matt cox lol
Respect Matt for sticking with your Mum ❤
Of all the mob and other interviews he's done, he's NEVER been this interested before.
The first thing he has to mention is the fine arts degree, what a legend!!!
Pat probably hired him to sell life insurance as soon as the cameras stopped rolling. These two guys were simpatico.
Mob stories are more or less the same thing, probably gets slightly boring
Pat had a R.E background...
@@saulremi314 LOL that's what I was thinking. They aren't that different.
Never underestimate the power of creativity, self confidence and a glib tongue. A successful con artist must possess all of those qualities.
You sir, have been bitten by a smooth criminal.
@Headshot Heist You sir, have been bitten by a smooth criminal
The power of suggestion and calm confidence goes a long way.
This poured salt on my personal wounds. My husband refinanced our house thru Countrywide in 2007 without me and ended up losing it after we had been living there since 1989. Then he committed suicide and at 57 I became a widow. I'm still trying to recover and it has been nine years. I was married 37 yrs and we met when were 16. Just saying damn.
So so sorry for your loss. That's really terrible
Damn that’s a crazy story
I’m sorry for your loss. 🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾
Why would your husband go behind your back and refinance the mortgage?
@@livingaboard my husband had no intentions of refinancing our home, until Countrywide called and persuaded him to do it. They didn't care what he did as long as they "helped him". The transaction was technically not legal. There was a class action law suit, but I didn't get any benefit from it. Long story but that is a ride but.
This guy's Social Engineering skills are stellar
Cox is a beast
He's funny as fu... as well.
Pablo Gonzalez That’s WHY his Social Engineering skills are stellar.
Ryan F Thats why he stole 12 million dollars he has that weapon called charisma
What an interview:
Matthew McConaughey would play him perfectly in a movie!
I love how this guy gets plastic surgery but not to change his appearance. Just to look younger. Lol!
True or Edward Norton
I feel like Ryan Gosling would do play him good
Wtf absolutely not😂
*_Lol right?!! He hella looks like MM!!_* 😄
This man has been caught plenty of times and STILL managed to stay ice cold cool under pressure, Secret Service was after him and everything. What he did was wrong but really admire how cool, calm, and collected he remained the whole time until he finally went to jail. Good interview!
Exactly!! If you are caught always act calm, cool, & collected!!!
@@babergill2890 easier said than done ! Haha
@@gunnarholbrook7128 easier when ur a sociopath/psycopath with 0 remorse
@@Okhero777 Well he is a narcissist so... its not like he was "talented" he literally lacks the capacity for empathy. I'd anticipate half of his relationships are a lie as explained there.
@@Petpawsitivecareyea…. I think the fact that the guy is cool calm and collected when committing these crimes is a pretty good indicator that this dude is a narcissist. He admits to it, and owns up to him being a rat but the main point we should put across is….. just make money legally and do the right things.
Matt tells his full story on his own channel "inside true crime". Its over 6 hours long and is one of the best stories, if not the best ive ever heard. The entire thing is gripping from start to finish!
His story is a joke dude told on someone to get out his own bull crap and who he told on had nothing to do with him or his case 😂 . Meaning who he told on was not the reason the police was knocking at his door and he just tells on his friend he knows is doing illegal things so he could get off on his case 😢 dude did all this illegal things and tells on someone that had nothing to do with his case dudes a coward
And not only that he makes videos reacting to things he knows nothing about I literally laugh at this guy thinking he can speak on prison when he was in the lowest security federal prisons around child and women touchers
@@inkedBc he did 4 years in medium before moving to low. Admittedly he can be a boomer when it comes to some of his reactions but hes trying his best as a 50 year old recently released from prison to catch a break, im rooting for him, and however amateurish some of his videos might sometimes be, im highly entertained by his channel
@@inkedBc i see you have your own, smaller prison channel? You should message him for a collab!
@@inkedBc did you really put the morality of a conman into a position of judgement? American intelligence truly has decayed. You do realize he's not a gangster but a conman? You're viewing him based on your own perception of your own world of crime which is not the same as his. From that I can assume you're not a very intelligent individual.
I worked in mortgages for a few years and some of this stuff sounds familiar, but MAN, this dude went ALL OUT!
🤣🤣🤣
I couldn’t find anything that he said about mortgage and appraisal practices that was a flat out lie.
He did the absolute maximum most lmao
He made a fake bank! 😂
I love being a black man. Absolutely love it. But I'd be lying if I denied ever thinking how sweet it would be to have that white privilege he got while I was doing the scam/hustle/jackin thing in my young an dum years
This guys sense of loyalty to his aging mother is amazing. I had a similar situation with my grandmother and "hung around" til she went on home RiP and i just had to say that right there is the best relationship ive ever had . Badass interview
Wow that's what you got out of this scam... amazing.
Everyone saying how good they feel this interview was should read his book. It's enthralling
What's the name of the book
@@eduardomartinez1615 Shark in the housing pool
You gotta love Matthew Cox for loving his mother and being so loyal. God bless her. I hope she's still with us
His hustle was still better than selling drugs.
This is the closest thing to the movie Catch Me if You Can.
He was living large for 3 years, then spent 26 years in prison. Anyone making that choice GOT HUSTLED... You cannot escape the consequences of evil choices
Most of the time the punishment and time is much less. I could steal 50 million through white collar fraud and get 5-10 years first offense. Get caught selling a couple ounces of crack and get 25+ years.
Catch me if you can is a true story, if you didn't know. In fact, the movie is watered down. Read the book! (the audiobook might be on UA-cam)
@@portaadonai 🤣 shut up. You must be the banks he stole from, we don't like you, UA-cam isn't the place for you.
@@King-jx3kx Im an electrician from CA so now we know you know nothing
*I see Matthew Cox, I click, I watch*
ufarley chuck
You know, I don’t know. I’ve heard and read the story thousands of times. But each time is more and more interesting.
maybe its not his real name
Eric Picho
Lol, good one.
Patrick's sitting here like, "damn, this guy's a God damn genius" lol
Jeremiah 4:22
Lol
@@amikamisrael Powerful word!
Replace word "genius" with FOOL and you're onto something.
@@amikamisrael "For My people are foolish, They have not known Me. They are silly children, And they have no understanding. They are wise to do evil, But to do good." [Jeremiah 4:22] For those that won't bother to look it up.
This interview was awesome! I think that he was smarter than he wants you to think. Brutally honest. Thank you Patrick. Another great interview...
He always has said he has a "Learning disability", but he is intelligent as hell.
He is...and knows the Matrix and how to exploit it well.
Apparently he never stopped learning. He may have been a slow learner because he was taking the time to really learn it well.
Learning disability = / = beeing intelligent
Google = 2E High IQ
connection between learning disabilities and high IQ
learning disability only means one doesnt learn in conventional ways... it looks like a disability because the system isnt set up to interface with the individual.
Mathew Cox is a good person he’s loyal to his mother and he remembers how she came to visit him every 2 weeks for 12 years. God bless you Mathew.
I would not be so trusting, he probably has an ulterior motive for pulling your heart string!
I know people like him.Hella entertaining,bad relationship material..The kind of friend I drag to the car dealership with me 👍
Wouldn't trust him
It's good that he 'fessed up to what he did.
Sociopaths 'learn' behaviours. What to do, say, how to react. They study to mimic the aforementioned. He doesn't feel a thing.
The guy is a genius, Patrick is just looking for loopholes in his business.
There's definitely stuff to learn you're for sure
He's not a genius he's a reckless spiv.. A theif who ruins peoples lives.. INCLUDING THE LIVES OF PEOPLE WHO WHEN THEY LOSE THEIR HOME AND FAMILY COMMITTE SUICIDE.. ' Do not revel in your sin '
He is. His IQ is 139/140... way above average of 100.
@@karlfulton4854 both can be true
@@karlfulton4854 agreed!
He’s more coherent and honest than most politicians- go figure
he's no different.
So glad Matt gets an actual interviewer to interview him! Ask him about his fine arts degree!
So great to see this guy being interviewed by a true pro... I caught his story on another video and the interviewers were horrible. Matt Cox is a great story teller!
Same. The other vídeo the interviewers were just amazed by him not asking the right questions
Who was it?
The first thing he has to mention is the fine arts degree, what a legend!!!
Matt Cox is a rockstar - his story is great and he tells it like he’s on a Hollywood set. I’ve heard it a dozen times and I keep tuning in for more.
When he was talking about not leaving because of his mom. That's real.
Surprised the shit out of me. I'm this guy, but almost no contact with fam.
Lino Jaramillo really? Did you pay attention? How can a narcissist be so caring about somebody else?
@@anlu3365 well momma is momma regardless of the devil u r...
But once that glue that keeps him in check goes; then prepare for the return of the devil
@@TheHeretic435 u aint him bro hes on another level
Yes that was commendable.
“Something doesn’t feel right about this transaction...I just can’t put my finger on it”
“It’ll come to you.” 😏
Legendary!!! Lol
Hahahaha! Hilarious
Ashy, it took guts to post that pic from your mom's basement.
I laughed my ass off 😂
I can't believe he said that, rofl.
the true genius of this guy is that he did all that and got away with only 12 years! and I`m sure he`s got some cash stashed somewhere. truly brilliant !
One thing I've taken from watching several Matt cox interviews, this guy has charisma pouring out his ears. Impossible not to like this guy.
I feel like everyone running their mouth in the comments are jealous
“You always think you’re clever until the judge is looking at you saying , what are you doing “ LMAOO 😭
Commotion to Consciousness 😂
For every criminal caught there 5 that havent been caught remember that.
No not always but see first age stage what they made with fbi house very bad so i began to thing serouce
Ok let me explain serioucerr and be very harder in thinksssss in real with my man i can do have much idiea new so what bether
Keen Ov Godz yet!
This story is laid out with much more clarity on Koncrete. I love watching this guy his story is incredible!
Full interview is UP. Thank youuuuuuu
I came here to learn this stuff I'm not gonna lie...
Learning fraud? Really? That means you also need to learn how to go through a 30 year bid.
I want to move to tampa and start MY mortgage company back up just to be like, yo Matt hypothetically speaking...
The sad thing is, I'd bet a lot of the shit he is describing would still work.
😂😂😂
I am South African and spent a year in the USA, I got a socal security number you can use....I'm in South Africa so I am faaaaar from the problem hahaha
Don't let yourself get attached to anything you are not willing to walk out on in 30 seconds flat if you feel the heat around the corner "Heat (1995)"
That bit about him sticking around for his amazing mom makes me know this is a solid dude.
Agree, in spie of all the crimes he committed, all the people he took with him to prison, he does love his Mom. On that point alone he's shown he's a human being.
I don’t buy it.
Y’all are fucked in the head.... he’s on probation
@@tylerkuykendall7771 You aren't on probation forever. I think he also is thinking that he wants to be there for his mom.
@@denniskalashnik98 Did your B.S. meter go off too. .? This guy knows one thing and one thing ONLY. . And, that's HOW to manipulate the SYSTEM. . So, everybody knows that we live in the digital age right. .? So, if he lives in Florida is not that big of a deal just as long as he has a computer and the internet he's still in business. . And, this whole thing about him caring for his Mom, well that's his perfect cover. .
He did a lot wrong but he helped a lot of people out who couldn’t get loans too.
Giving someone a loan that they can't pay back is not helpful. It will hurt their credit, put them in debt, and prevent them from getting another loan for at least 10 years. The only people this guy helped was himself and his co-conspirators.
T2x that is true for some but some people get rejected for their bad credit and not their inability to pay. I know several people who make a lot of money but their credit score blocks them.
DrainTheSwamp I thought so all along just he may have helped someone but your right he probably stole money from his clients purses if he got a chance. 👌
DrainTheSwamp nah he just exposed the system you sheep
TSD TSD your right my hater of the banking system clouds my judgement sometimes. #END the Fed.
Riveting episode! Really enjoyed his transparency. Thanks for bringing him on.
3 credit cards, 6 months, make payments = good credit score. Thanks bro
Mike Ell how ? I’m trying to tap in
deez nutz this man gonna finesse the hell out of you
Space Monkey lmfao
*Secured credit cards
Lmao
Been watching Matt since his first Koncrete podcast. Awesome to see him moving into more of the mainstream. His stories are so entertaining.
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Hell yeah me too!
More Matt Cox for the quarantine - we are blessed
Patrick, thank you for putting in the time and resources to make these interviews. They are world-class. Your questions, your composure and ability to build rapport, the people -- it's amazing content.
I couldn’t agree more
MATHEW COCKS RAMS A GIRTHY VEINY BLACK KOK INTO A STEAMY BUT WHOLE
First 60 seconds is the best of all the interviews on Valuetainment! Best intro yet! 👌👌👌♥️🔥
Matt Cox is the best.
Moral of this story, pay extremely close to detail.. With precision, what a story!
Patrick can get along with anyone, even if they’re an ex-con
It's called professionalism. Or part of the job, as you will.
TrickZ Retz yes
What about ex-cons? Every politician is a flippin Con, you still vote, it's just "legal" if your a president, cheers
Matt Cox is a very likable guy
@@TrickZ_Retz oh no convicts are abnormal (forseer) to the normal (dull minded) bcoz theyr thinkerz n 5 stepz ahead of normal. Especially when theyr bored, the need for action overrides their humaness. Like this guy...he wae able to out wit the bank, n thats their job! Spontaneous is their HiGH not drugs. Im not a criminal or convict. But i was in love w one for 20yrs...and i understood his mind, the way he thought, his need for action. He was fun...adventurous, n innovative. I miss him.
This was a very interesting episode, thank you!
One of the Iron Rules: *never mix your business life with your personal life*
You see how many parents open bills in their children’s names using their SSN’s. Goes to show you they don’t check this stuff
I am totally fascinated by the minds of these criminals, they could be your next door neighbor who just got carried away with things
They are your neighbors who had things go wrong or they chose their path in life.
Where do they get the guts to maintain that facade...
Jordan Belfort got carried away as he started out as legitimate. This guy made an immediate decision to commit massive fraud which does affect other people. I saw no remorse in this interview as he states he's up to do it again. This is a bad person.
@@edstevens4439 Personality disorders
@@DonDraperism not really lol if affected the banks.
I know one of the guys, that started eagle lending, I remember him telling me, he was leaving there, and I thought that was strange, haven't heard anything about them until now.
When I sold Realestate I remember one time looking at a contract and pointing out to a girl I worked with that they didn't sign and initial. She grabbed the pen outta my hand and signed and initialled just like the seller. I was floored.
Lol I be seeing you on alan's channel.. got good taste brotha
Mother's LOVE is unconditional. I'm glad he appreciates her. So even crooks can do right by mom.
🤣
he stole from banks, he is a hero. banks are crooks.
@@DarkoFitCoach You know you have a great point. 👎BANKERS.
Patrick is looking at him like "I want to hire this guy to work for me doing something but I'm not too sure what to hire him for"...
The fraud department.
“It’ll come to you”
He'd be perfect for Patrick's business.
@@davidmkrtchyan3411 perfect 🤣
👍🤣😎
I've NEVER been bored of this channel! Great interview
This is the guy they caught just to set an example, imagine all the people that didn’t get caught 🤔 That’s insane lol
now you know how illegal immigrants get social numbers and fake id's
Chad Jackson i understand why you said that but that was random & ignorant to say. The majority of illegal immigrants do not have nearly as much knowledge as someone like Michael to use that info for any malicious intent. Last time I checked I havnt seen illegal immigrants cause an economy to crash, more then once. Do the research CHAD & let the immigrants work ,thrive & even ADD to their communities. God bless & stay clean 🙏🏼
Hahaha 😂
Sooner or later everyone gets caught
Well now they know how😂😂😂😂
So what I'm hearing is: it takes the same amount of work to get rich - regardless of which "side of the law" you choose to operate on.
Sounds about right sir
Yup
yeah no shyt. lo. whether the doc or the patient. the surgeon or the cancer patient. the thief... the whore. the john. the killer or the crooked drug enforcement cop.... you gotta work to get rich. well i mean unless born into it, etc.
Amazing how Cox turns us from being horrified at his actions to understanding them and even, dare I say, being OK with them.
Very complex indeed! And excellent probing questions by Pat to unfold the story.
144Donn I know what I did was wrong and of course I regret it. However, nobody wants to see me constantly apologizing and crying about the sins of the past. I was asked to tell my story and I’m simply doing it to the best of my ability. 🤷🏼♂️ If I come off arrogant and a little bit obnoxious I apologize. I’m not trying to offend anyone.
@@InsideTrueCrime , not in the least, on the contrary, your openness and candor, and honesty about the past, reveals the journey that your life has taken, what was learned, and how you've grown from those experiences. Few are willing to come clean about misdeeds, and show a true change of heart, and I'm glad you are using your skills and talents in a legitimate manner today to prosper. There is a lot to be learned, and if we can't look back occasionally at our wilder days and laugh, then we can hardly enjoy and progress forward in life. Lessons learned, pass on what you know and continue to contribute to society!
" The medium cost for a home in Ybor City went from 50 grand to 250 grand " because of this guy . Incredible .
Look it up. It affected the ENTIRE COUNTY
Misleading title, it should be a "How to" video
Never undervalue your potential is what I've taken out of this. This was basically a master class, similar to one would get when going to prison. At least if you're paying any attention. Great story, and really smart guy.
Thanks! I really appreciate that.
everyone is a crook in this ecosystem - the fact that he was able to get away with what he did says a lot about the system he was operating within. Everybody was driven by greed and profits and were willing to turn a blind eye.
One of the best interviews I've ever seen, and def his best interview
I like how he's giving his mom her roses while he still can. He could probably be legit rich but remembered what she did for him. That's real!
@AnticommentWarrior thats another matthew j cox lol hes matthew b cox
If every woman treated their man like this guy treats his mom...this wouldn't have happened. Love this guy!
Lol his mom is not real. Please study sociopaths. She is a made up sob story. Can't believe you fell for that.
@@chasingsunsets87 Yep, fell for that one hook, line, and sinker!
@@chasingsunsets87 I figured that he kept stuttering
Matthew is a very successful man and I credit him having a great mother. He says he was "troubled" but this is a great example of how having a great mother helped him be successful in the past and even now after all the difficult times she is there for him. With that being said don't even think about telling me you think banks are here to help anyone. Banks are the biggest criminals in the world that CRUSH the working man's dreams with interest rates on money that doesn't even exist. Not to mention $35.00 overdraft fees on a $1.37 overdraft.
Switch to a credit union. Fees are much less. 2 free overdraft s per year and $12 on a bounced check.
They surely do crush you if they can
@@NotThatKindaKaren yep, always stick with the little guy in all aspects.
This guy is actually a really smart guy
He is very intelligent and extremely modest. I hope he does well in his new life.
He’s telling the truth.... knowledge is power...
Finding loopholes is kind of a personality. Everywhere you go you see them and maybe on some cases exploit them. But ethics makes you think of the impact and restrict you based on your moral compass. But you will always see those loopholes even for little and simple things.
I know what you mean. I am always naturally looking for loopholes lol it's a curse and a skill
I’m a utility locator and I found so many loop holes to get out of work but I wasn’t raised like that and something inside me always tells me what if someone was looking and I look stupid trying to lie to someone about it 😂 my main thing is accountability and consequences unfortunately dudes like this guy get further ahead because of their lack of accountability or care of such a thing, that includes politicians too bastards don’t own up to a damn thing
@@FrankyCpunishmentSTYLEget stuck in the rat race or be like this guy I choose to be like this guy!!!!
Patrick's questions are so damn good. He so good at digging down and bringing out the smallest details. Well done sir!
Aw, the mother son connection is beautiful
I don’t believe it!
Did he mention he has a degree in fine arts?
Been watching Koncrete podcasts i see 😅
he has a degree in fine farts
What you did there...I see it.
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
lol.... another worthless college degree.
People in that area got there houses appraised and said holy shit my 50k house is worth 600k over night lol
Until property tax time.
And thus, Zillow was born....
Mat
incorrect.
I watched this twice. You interviews have depth.
Your interviews are so good and u have a knack for getting the good details to the questions no one else wants to or has the balls to ask. I love your confidence!
He’s a fall compared to the big guys that really steal money and are still able to work at these banks and most of them own them
You sir, have been bitten by a smooth criminal
All this guy did was capitalize on the loopholes in the broken, corrupt banking system.... problem is that he didnt have the political connections that could cover for his ass, like the fed reserve and all banksters r doing today; on a much larger scale.
Exactly
Let’s see you pull it off so easily hater.
@@SiggMark who said i was hating on using the available loopholes moron? Smh
OnYx DoNT MisS If anything he was complimenting and justifying the things he pulled off , smh....
OnYx DoNT MisS teach me how to read like you
My dad did this for a living. He had multiple identities. He focused on insurance fraud. He would take the money from all the claims and make various small/medium businesses. He was gifted at running legit businesses. But he was a violent know it all. Treated everyone like garbage unless he thought you were potentially useful. Then he was charming and just happened to be your lucky day.
Fucking hell, real man
loophole: expecting people to do their job; they don't
ahahhhaah for real
You sir, have been bitten by a smooth criminal.
People sink into habits. Get's em every time.
I know exactly what this guy is saying. I tried working as an honest loan broker back in the 90’s and found out that the corruption was my competition because my potential clients were as crooked as the lenders. After seeing how borrowers were getting ripped off (mostly by themselves) I wrote a computer program to help borrowers understand their finances and work out a plan that would work in their financial favor. What I had thought would sell like hotdogs did not sell at all because people didn’t really care what they would winde up paying as long as they got what they wanted ‘right now’. I was even threatened several times if I didn’t stop talking to lender’s customers/victims. All this guy in the interview did was make stupid/lazy/greedy people happy-until their loans were ultimately foreclosed for non-payment. Oh well, makes it easier to accept Trump’s alleged defeat-people generally deserve the shit they winde up with. I see this same bullshit on my TV every day-“Get everything you are ‘entitled’ to.” The entitlements they are hawking are as phony as a three dollar bill. Check out our national debt-we have run out of our parents/grandparents savings and are now using our kids/grandkids future credit. Kind of like ‘burning a candle from both ends’ but who will get burned in the end?!
Yup ppl love being lied to as long as it’s buttery sweet and something they want to hear. Seeing these politicians obviously pander to ppl and see ppl lap it up makes me realize that we are no different than the mobs of Medieval times.
You I hope.
We all will
Very wise, give us more details! Who did you work for and what was the program called? Who threatened you?!
"Well I'm not saying I'm not a sociopath what I'm saying is I'm not a pathological liar" This guy is so quotable
Norwegian Polarbear 🤷🏼♂️
What a great interview. Yeah it’s a couple of years old but current!
I grew up in Clearwater outside of Tampa, decent place to be stuck living at.
Good to hear he's paying it back for his mom, acknowledging her support and visitation while he was confined for years. Now he's there for her.
He sounds and talks very honest and legit. Some part of me really wish he had gotten away and never scam again.
YES I did in the Mortgage business for 33 Years, Countrywide, IndyMac, Broker, GMAC, Chase and all!!
I appreciate that he knows he's a narcissist. So many wont admit they have no capability of having empathy. What a trip this guy's story was.
his extensive criminality shows he's above a narcissist and is a psychopath.
Listening to his channel he talks highly of RDAP which is some program they offer in prison. Apparently it can be very good if the person taking it is honest about taking accountability and changing their thought patterns
Most people dont know they are. Most people think you are when you are just selfish.
Really? I've come across so many people boasting about being narcissistic or lacking empathy.
who says someone with a fine arts degree can't make lots of money
Like I always said, I didn't get a degree in Art for nothing.
Arjun Kurkal got some skills from it
The guy being interviewed did😂 he said bc of that he had to make $ unrelated to that
Lol the only way it can be done: fraud! The faculty and professors would be proud
Whenever someone refers to a social security number as a "sowsh" you know they've been up to no good for a long time
That is a ridiculous statement if I ever heard one
zorroon milkavitch it’s finance world lingo relax
Lol
You have an ability to find the most interesting guests - but they have found one of the kindest, most observant hosts - who after all, is learning how to protect himself from characters such as this should they ever try their shtick on you and yours.
What a brilliant and interesting man. I absolutely did not want that man to be guilty. His stories were told with excitement, no choking or forgetting, so you know it isn't made up... he is a storyteller! Slick as they get ... and charming. I can understand how he made such a great living. It would be a perfect match for him b'cuz he is so tightly wired, he needs to keep things interesting in his life at that age -- good thing he calmed down since he had a lot of time to think of it. Great Show! Didn't want it to end.
This Guy is a genius. Fooled everybody almost got away.
stripes right. Just got too greedy yet at same time, if ur going to take the risk you got get paid
It wasn't greed.... It was the girlfriend😜
Is there a such thing as a "economic terrorist "?
@@mr99501 George Soros
Reminds me of The Fountain Pen Conspiracy