Why The New Gears Of War Characters Suck

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  • @TheBoneHeadClan
    @TheBoneHeadClan 3 роки тому +153

    This video was great! Do you do other Gears content? Or Xbox?

    • @chimericx5647
      @chimericx5647  3 роки тому +7

      Thanks man I’m glad you liked it! I will likely do another gears video at some point but don’t have anything planned for the near future. I’m currently taking a break from videos because I’m finishing up grad school but I’ll be posting some more videos again soon and some of those will be about Halo. I will likely discuss all sorts of games moving forward though!

    • @b1ngb018
      @b1ngb018 Рік тому +3

      @@chimericx5647HALO PLZZ!!

  • @sean12sean
    @sean12sean 3 роки тому +244

    The new characters don't channel the spirit of 80's pro wrestlers. That's why they fail.

    • @chimericx5647
      @chimericx5647  3 роки тому +18

      Damn bro well said. Couldn’t have explained it better myself.

    • @gspeedy619
      @gspeedy619 Рік тому +13

      That and also she's not very heroic and comes off more like an annoying brat than a solider.

    • @RazorClaw46
      @RazorClaw46 2 місяці тому +1

      ​@@gspeedy619 female character: *shows off being imperfect and overall human tendencies*
      Gamers: "Yeah, she is annoying"

    • @RazorClaw46
      @RazorClaw46 2 місяці тому +1

      ​@@chimericx5647 Female character: *picks up a weapon*
      Every Alpha Male Gamer: *gets a heart attack*

    • @gspeedy619
      @gspeedy619 2 місяці тому +2

      @@RazorClaw46 "Female Characters." Specifically said Kait is annoying.

  • @masterchief272
    @masterchief272 2 роки тому +133

    The fact that minor characters you rarely see like Dizzy are much more entertaining.

    • @aaronstanley474
      @aaronstanley474 2 роки тому

      The fact it takes 2 or three people to breach a door each time or lift a twig obstruction should tell everybody that gears got gyno bitch tits and need to roid back up.
      I mean you could play as little piss ants but wtf would you want to ? When you got Cole and Marcus still alive albeit older. Make Kait the new Queen have a few acts where you play her giving into the dark side kill off whoever between del or jd finish off with the original line up, sideline the survivor of the Reyna breaking neck scene for ptsd because their both soy cock beta males and gonna cry over survivors guilt. The original team ends the crisis again They can even justify all the team lifts for sciatica because their old and can play with the comedy their. Makes Kaits death scene Baird cole carmine and Marcus gangbanging her with lancer chainsaws Alice and dice and tag her ass with an incendiary.

    • @themanwithnoname1839
      @themanwithnoname1839 11 місяців тому

      Dizzy is the best lmfao i loved gears 3 when marcus said "dizzy that you? Takin on the whole grub army again?" I was like hell yea he is, dizzy is the ULTIMATE redneck lmfao

  • @gurthang667
    @gurthang667 3 роки тому +214

    The original characters are basically the ninja turtles. Marcus is the fearless leader (Leo), Dom is the angry rebellious one (Raph), Baird is the tech whizz (Donatello), and obviously Cole is the party guy (Mikey). There is some blending like how Baird is rude but cool like Raph while Dom has a soft side like Leo but it pretty much works. None of them could carry the game on their own, they will always work best as a team.

    • @shadowpersonoftheunknown6245
      @shadowpersonoftheunknown6245 2 роки тому +11

      I always think of Carmine when the turtles are mentioned because his voice actor also voiced one in the 80s

    • @ethana9365
      @ethana9365 2 роки тому +18

      I dont think dom fits that but i can see where you're coming from

    • @yfsincere
      @yfsincere Рік тому +1

      Dope analysis 🔥🔥🔥

  • @Thomas20Smith
    @Thomas20Smith Рік тому +95

    Hell in my opinion, Lizzie should’ve gotten way more screen time. Her first choice was to drive a truck into the waste of space fking creature that the Coalition created(The Snatcher) and stick a grenade onto it. Total badass. She outshined Kait’s entire character and I was kinda pissed they went back on the whole Carmine character has to die haha

    • @dkoda840
      @dkoda840 Рік тому +20

      They don’t even do it right I have no problem with the carmines being an unfortunate family but killing them to the gears writers is just a requirement. Lizzie has a solid introduction but they kill her too quickly, they should have done something similar to Benjamin have her be around the main cast so we fully come to love her through the shit show world they live in then kill them off. It gives the emotional impact that Benjamin’s death and Clayton’s fake out death had. Anthony also had enough time to be likable before he passed.

    • @Thomas20Smith
      @Thomas20Smith Рік тому +2

      @@dkoda840 exactly, that I wouldn’t have minded

  • @teletubbie-chan9061
    @teletubbie-chan9061 2 роки тому +138

    Marcus: a man with pain and suffering because of years and years of war and the death of a lot of his loved ones. Goes through swarms of locust and lambent for the good of humanity and watches his father die once infront of him and the other in his arms and watches his great friend die risking his life to save the squad. And watches his other good friend kill himself from torture.
    Kait : mom ded me sad. Also I'm locust lady so me important. Me definitely main character

  • @jesustyronechrist2330
    @jesustyronechrist2330 3 роки тому +131

    Kait is a product of insecurity.
    They probably were told Gears needs a female main character with the main posse, but were too insecure in doing so. So instead of having a soldier who just happens to be a woman, they do the "overly macho and douchy tomboy" route. They didn't have the condifence to pull a female protagonist off otherwise 'cause they aren't confident that a woman could have a strong and intimidating presence that a hulking masculine man could. She's too serious because they thought that's the only way to compensate her lack of physical mass.
    But as Lizzie shows: They can pull it off. If they'd be more confident in the character and not get too bogged down by the gender they pick, Kait would've been a great badass character.

    • @historicist4517
      @historicist4517 2 роки тому +3

      What a mind freak holy, nicely said.

    • @reignitedguard333
      @reignitedguard333 2 роки тому +4

      Exactly. Truth bomb just got dropped.

    • @JinnYoungKim
      @JinnYoungKim 2 роки тому +3

      This game is totally insult for Valera. Also... some racist???
      Anyway I'll never play fucking Canadian games.

    • @jesustyronechrist2330
      @jesustyronechrist2330 2 роки тому

      @@JinnYoungKim Hell ye brother! Fuck Canada!

    • @ls93780
      @ls93780 Рік тому +14

      You can get away with an overly macho tomboy if you do it right, like with Sam in Gears of war 3, or with Vasquez in the Aliens movie. What doesn't work with a female who's supposed to be a soldier is her being immature, disobeying orders and going AWOL, and everyone around her just kinda being ok with it and her never facing any consequences. In previous games in this franchise the COG sends Marcus to prison for 14 years (Seran years in Earth years it would be 18 years), for disobeying orders, and only let him out when the war is going so poorly they have no choice but to draft convicts. Baird and his entire squad were almost ended, and even after the last bit of judgment he got a permanent demotion from lieutenant to private. The COG has been shown to not tolerate insubordination

  • @brivonn1580
    @brivonn1580 10 місяців тому +26

    I hate how they made Kait seem like an estrogen emotionally fueled woman 🤦🏿‍♀️ We need another Lizzie! Hell even Sofia was pretty decent on Judgement compared to Kate on 5. Anya and Sam showed some spurts of emotion on 3 but I loved how they never broke rank. They stayed fully disciplined throughout the game.

    • @Artryom
      @Artryom 6 місяців тому +1

      “Estrogen emotionally fueled woman”💀 Isn’t that how… it’s meant to be? Deng, no time for Estro in Gears, only testosterone!!

    • @ARuiz-eu3hk
      @ARuiz-eu3hk 5 місяців тому

      Hell you feel more sorry and treat like one of the boys with Sofia as she was treat like a complete nobody by her "onyx" peers still looked as a cadet.

    • @Dap1ssmonk
      @Dap1ssmonk 4 місяці тому +1

      @@Artryombro it’s a game ripping off space marines with chainsaw bayonets and pro wrestling level banter. Literally only testosterone (and the occasional manly tear) are allowed here.

    • @Artryom
      @Artryom 4 місяці тому

      @@Dap1ssmonk I don’t get the space marines nonsense and Pro wrestling level banter but I gotta agree with that last part, that second sentence is true.

    • @Dap1ssmonk
      @Dap1ssmonk 4 місяці тому +3

      @@Artryom cliff specifically sighted space marines as an inspiration for the physical design of the COG. I forget where so take my memory how you will.

  • @bitchpudding2945
    @bitchpudding2945 3 роки тому +127

    The thing about the Settlement 2 massacre is, JD was full within his right to order shots fired. Del and Kait acted so shocked, but not 5 seconds before JD told them how a Molotov cocktail was thrown at them.

    • @GnosisZX
      @GnosisZX 3 роки тому +1

      Exactly had JD not acted gears would have been seriously hurt or killed. Run away the COG looks weak and it emboldens rioters

    • @octaviogonzalez8794
      @octaviogonzalez8794 3 роки тому

      He didn't have the authority to give the order or to start firing

    • @GnosisZX
      @GnosisZX 3 роки тому +48

      @@octaviogonzalez8794 didn’t matter it was a call that had to be made del would have let fellow gears get hurt or worse so they won’t hurt bunch of rioters
      Del and kait should quit the military and go full outsider there not cut out to be soldier’s

    • @bitchpudding2945
      @bitchpudding2945 3 роки тому +26

      @@octaviogonzalez8794 He did though because he was the officer?

    • @konahrikb1578
      @konahrikb1578 2 роки тому +17

      You know what I don't get? In Gears 4 the DBs had shock variants of their weapons that basically fired taser rounds or something. Why didn't they use those guns instead? Send a message with squads armed with lethal force?

  • @Kai-ow9gi
    @Kai-ow9gi 2 роки тому +62

    I like how Kait never got checked by her superior officers

    • @Complexity-lq9fp
      @Complexity-lq9fp 2 роки тому +12

      They're too soft. Like... look at them in the comics especially Baird lol.

    • @ramiere1412
      @ramiere1412 3 місяці тому +2

      she does in the second act literally the first mission. actually in the first mission of the game del yells at her. its like you guys didnt even play the game

  • @kidcheater5786
    @kidcheater5786 2 роки тому +100

    JD was easily the best character out of all of the new guys. In four, he was too joking and didn’t take things seriously. In five, he did grow to be more serious but with an occasional quip. He additionally was given an actual backstory and flaw that later caused him to be overbearing and somewhat callous in act two. Definitely would have been a redeeming character if he was involved more.

    • @35327290
      @35327290 Рік тому

      And also I believe that on 6 we will know that he's the one who's got his ass killed, because the other one is black, so they will probably make the virtue signaling on him

    • @dkoda840
      @dkoda840 Рік тому +11

      If they kept going with JD he could have been a solid MC. The first chapter wasn’t too bad seeing the focus on JD then they just shit all over it.

    • @themanwithnoname1839
      @themanwithnoname1839 11 місяців тому +8

      ​@@dkoda840yea didnt make sense, in 4 they were all like whoa marcus had a son?!?!?!? And then in five they were like nah fuck this kid kait is the main one now.... Hell at this point it may well be canon that jd dies...... SIMPLY due to kait and dels relationship and how it grew in five ..... I personally DESPISE kait and had she said what she said to a captain in real life during a time of war she would've been INSTANTLY arrested...... And EITHER given the death sentence or life in prison for high treason and insubordination

    • @brivonn1580
      @brivonn1580 10 місяців тому +8

      I don't care for the younger JD but the older JD (Baldy with beard) Had a much better tone and character. That JD reminded us that he's the son of Marcus and Anya and a badass

  • @jonathanrangel7036
    @jonathanrangel7036 3 роки тому +207

    I was upset that we didn’t get to play as JD more in gears five. Especially after the character development he had pushing after the start. The man had an actual story in terms of doing whatever is necessary to protect his fellow soldiers. But we didn’t get to see much of it since we had to see the majority of the story through Kate’s eyes.

    • @JohnDoe-pu5gk
      @JohnDoe-pu5gk 2 роки тому +5

      They are both bad characters so who cares.

    • @sethwalker8240
      @sethwalker8240 Рік тому +16

      @@JohnDoe-pu5gk Gears Fans do

    • @jjw4646
      @jjw4646 Рік тому +5

      @@sethwalker8240Gears 4&5 ain’t even gears. It’s a arcade mess

    • @HavelShifter
      @HavelShifter 6 місяців тому +3

      Hope we get JD as a protagonist in the next game

    • @dicerollsfreely23
      @dicerollsfreely23 6 місяців тому +3

      I don't care what anyone says JD was a good character and 4 was not a bad game actually, some stuff I didn't like but overall it wasn't bad

  • @QuestQuenchers
    @QuestQuenchers 3 роки тому +50

    I honestly feel that a lot of these AAA games have forgot how to write compelling stories and characters.

    • @chimericx5647
      @chimericx5647  3 роки тому +4

      Ya not many recent games come to mind for good characters or stories

    • @gorillawhale1046
      @gorillawhale1046 2 роки тому +4

      @@chimericx5647 it's all about how it looks and not the important stuff like a compelling story or good gameplay.

    • @ramiere1412
      @ramiere1412 3 місяці тому

      yeah marcus is such a compelling character in the first game. grumpy guy who got sent to prison for not following orders. that is literally all we know about him in that game

    • @QuestQuenchers
      @QuestQuenchers 3 місяці тому +1

      @@ramiere1412 if that's all you took from that character then that's your problem 😂 Ya see him grow into leader.

    • @ramiere1412
      @ramiere1412 3 місяці тому

      @@QuestQuenchers thats all they give us in gears 1. literally. hes just there for you to play as. they dont flesh him out until 2 and three. please tell me what makes him so compelling in the first game

  • @taipaulsen4347
    @taipaulsen4347 Рік тому +13

    I was so disappointed that Lizzie dies thanks to the carmine curse

  • @AMike75
    @AMike75 3 роки тому +510

    We all know why they forced a female protagonist on us. We all know.

    • @razorwireclouds5708
      @razorwireclouds5708 2 роки тому +35

      Cry me a river

    • @shadowpersonoftheunknown6245
      @shadowpersonoftheunknown6245 2 роки тому +27

      "Actually, I DON'T KNOW!" -Garren Paduk

    • @rashadjohnson611
      @rashadjohnson611 2 роки тому +126

      Because at the time the game came out was around the time the feminists movement was strong

    • @kevintunri3883
      @kevintunri3883 Рік тому +93

      @@razorwireclouds5708 cry for me when gears of war franchise is dead

    • @StankFrengus
      @StankFrengus Рік тому

      @@razorwireclouds5708 stupid fucking comment. Do you think the original commentor is sexist and hates women? No he obviously doesn't because if you automatically assume that then no talking or thinking can take place. How about that fact that so many major female characters are written as ASSHOLE MEN from other movies. They saw Ron pearlman from blade and said WOW HE'S SO COOL AND LIKABLE. They're ruining the idea of female leads with awful mean characters with poor motives

  • @SuperFowlMouth
    @SuperFowlMouth 2 роки тому +33

    They tried very hard to make her the new Marcus Fenix and failed miserably.

  • @AlwonDomz
    @AlwonDomz Рік тому +8

    Top 3 mistakes with Gears, my opinion:
    1 - Lost horror element
    2 - Melodramatic characters
    3 - Plot Armor

  • @juliovictormanuelschaeffer8370
    @juliovictormanuelschaeffer8370 3 роки тому +27

    Lizzie, why did you have to die? You could've been the main character instead of Kait!
    #CarmineIsMyWaifu

  • @ishitrealbad3039
    @ishitrealbad3039 3 роки тому +27

    To me new gears failed becasue they went from a focus on "How do I eliminate these monsters in the most gruesome way ever?", to "How do I create a compelling soap drama like Game of Thrones?"
    I liked gears for it's overly masculine astheatic combined with monsters and a no bullshit simple to follow story.
    Now it's filled with too many characters, wimps fighting buffed ass monsters and all sorts of drama..... I just want to shoot monster man....

  • @MJSGamingSanctuary
    @MJSGamingSanctuary 3 роки тому +51

    A big point to make is that Gears 1-3 and even Judgement had small talk between characters that felt relevant to their lives and even the mission.
    Play gears of war 4 and or 5 and you will notice the MASSIVE lack of any actual banter. Add insult to injury JD, Kait and Del are suppose to have grown up together.
    Gears of war 4 had massive wasted lore potiential particularly at the Fenix estate. Marcus is suiting up Kait with Anya's family jewels of armor. Why doesn't Kait like ask JD and Marcus what Anya was like. Or press JD why he fights with Marcus about Anya's grave so much.
    Probably my personal issue with Gears 5 is probably the ever more prevelant lack of banter. Kait and Del are out on a mission ALONE with one another and the best in terms of banter is talk about how bloody cold it is. Or how bad JD has become without like ya know hashing it out. Its not like someone is spying on them for chist sake. They ARE ALONE. The Swarm isn't about to jump out of the ground and tell JD or Marcus that Kait and Del are talking trash about them. As if that wasn't bad enough you get to the second half of the game. And they waste the fact that JD has gone rogue for him to just be tossed aside as another hopeless follower. Why doesn't Kait like threaten to kill JD after the shit he's pulled. Have Kait stop pulling her punches maybe have Kait blame JD for the loss of her mother. Some sort of tension other than the stereotypical. "The world ends if we don't do this BS."
    If I had friends I grew up with I'd have like some coded speak that only we know how to understand. Maybe even some inside jokes. Its stuff like this that would make it seem more plausable that Kait, JD and Del grew up together.
    "Stuff like remember that time that JD or Del did this that or something about a previous adventure." Something that like adds to the 3 or like 4 years that seperates Gears 4 from 5.

    • @chimericx5647
      @chimericx5647  3 роки тому +7

      Really good point the new games do a really poor job portraying these characters relationships with each other and it contributes to why they’re so flat. I’ve been meaning to replay the old games to see the difference with in game dialogue because it’s been a little while but from what I remember it used to be much better.

    • @amandeepgill5206
      @amandeepgill5206 2 роки тому

      Marketing tactic for fans to read the books or comics

    • @MJSGamingSanctuary
      @MJSGamingSanctuary 2 роки тому +5

      @@amandeepgill5206 That just makes it even worse. No one wants "homework" I came to play the game and get a great story. I didn't come to get a 30K page thesis shoved down my throat is my response to the books and comic, graphic novels. I'd rather pay 10K for a single solid actual AAA game than pay 40 to 80 dollars 20 times over.

    • @MJSGamingSanctuary
      @MJSGamingSanctuary 2 роки тому +1

      And just to add salt to the wound of my points... Resident Evil 7 Biohazard and Village did a better job of telling an actual story than the entirety of Gears 4 and 5's writing and plot combined. And tbh most of the Biohazard plot line are pretty much a carbon copy of how Final Fantasy is written which is ironically in itself a writing nightmare but it ironically at least has a core plot something that the entire new age of gears of war lacks hugely.
      Gears of War as an IP is one of the many franchises to stagnate arguably just as bad as MMORPG's age old fabled master piece WOW. Its only saving grace at this point is the past trillogy of its IP.

    • @reyes7198
      @reyes7198 7 місяців тому +1

      The skiff riding could have taken god of war's page and had interesting lore/character developing dialogue there. even life after the locust war. SOMETHING other than silence snow or sand

  • @dancortes2164
    @dancortes2164 3 роки тому +37

    It's a really big irony that secondary characters like Oscar and Reyna feel way more developed than the main cast. Still they can make Kait be an awesome character if they get her attitude right with situations.
    That's what feels wrong about her, she's always like "oh no... anyway..."

  • @johnsonter1358
    @johnsonter1358 3 роки тому +35

    Wish we got Lizzy instead of kait

    • @rapatacush3
      @rapatacush3 4 місяці тому +1

      Wish they had known better than made another gears after judgement.

  • @SchettiNButter
    @SchettiNButter 5 місяців тому +16

    Ended up here after the prequel announcement. Seems the devs finally realized their cast sucked ass

  • @beanseenitmaybe969
    @beanseenitmaybe969 3 роки тому +22

    Gears of war 3 had the perfect ending why is Gear of War 4 even making the story longer and why do the characters suck (anyways I like the Stalker Armored Kantus nice skin)

  • @legi0n47x
    @legi0n47x 3 роки тому +53

    Great vid. Long time Gears fan just playing through it. It's so bad. They intentionally assassinated JD's char, the toxic white male. Propped up Kait, it's all about me, OMG what's happening, I'll kill everyone! And then never finished either one. When was humanity at Danger? Dell is just a beta male supporting Kait. Could have easily kept it on an even keel with both learning lessons and saving the day. I can't help but feel it was all done for virtue signaling. Especially the incident they used to kill of JD, GTFO. Gears is about being hardcore against impossible odds. Not what's right according to whomever or finding yourself. The shit story of 4 didn't do this one any favors.

    • @chimericx5647
      @chimericx5647  3 роки тому +4

      Ya they definitely wanted to shift things over to Kait and it was really lazily done

  • @DVictor23
    @DVictor23 3 роки тому +31

    Hivebusters did a better job with the characters in what 4 hours? than gears of War 4 and 5 did in two full games.
    Oh and Baird is my favorite character, and I hate gears judgment anyways.

    • @lorddeathspit1124
      @lorddeathspit1124 2 роки тому +4

      Baird is the best character in the series cuz he’s a smart ass.

  • @jasongonzalez2402
    @jasongonzalez2402 3 роки тому +15

    I don't like playing as Kait. Bring Marcus back as the main player. Iconic character.

    • @JinnYoungKim
      @JinnYoungKim 2 роки тому +2

      I've decided not to play this game series anymore. Canadians have ruined and absolutely scorched my memories.

  • @konahrikb1578
    @konahrikb1578 2 роки тому +5

    Honestly, it's not that I don't like the characters, I'm just disappointed with how their stories have played out. It just feels like one missed opportunity after another with the new Delta squad, with two paths they could've taken with JD or Kait as the main character from the start, and both of them ending in a car crash that became Gears 5. Here's a couple ideas for fixing this story:
    -- I don't think the idea of Kait being the main character and focusing on her connection with Myrrha was a terrible idea, but it should've started at the beginning in Gears 4 instead of switching over to her halfway through 5 after a timeskip. The whole "my way or the highway" attitude could be excused when her mother's life was at stake, but after that it's just annoying and childish. Look at characters like Dizzy Wallin and Michael Barrick, both were ex-Stranded and had issues with the COG, but they didn't go mouthing off about it at every opportunity, because they had jobs to do and people depending on them in life or death situations. Though I think Kait could've developed past this, especially when she learned the truth about her dad's military service and began following in his footsteps as a leader.
    -- As for JD, I feel like he'd be better off without the main focus on him, even if he is Marcus and Anya's son. This new era is about the return of the Locust as the Swarm and their connection with Kait, but the Fenix family issues can still be there in the background, just not the only thing people should focus on while the inhuman, genocidal monsters are coming back from the grave to finish what they started. As for the whole Settlement 2 thing, I think that needs to stay since it's the catalyst for JD and Del leaving the COG and joining the Outsiders, but maybe turn it from a massacre into a heavy-handed crackdown with shock weapons instead of a war crime? And put it on Fahz instead of JD? That revelation was really pointless to be honest.
    -- Del is basically a blank slate, we know nothing about him other than he became JD's best friend in military school,and he's a bit of a tech head. Kait even asked him about his parents once and he refused to talk about them, which could've led to a line of character development about his past and possibly how he bonded with JD over issues with parents. Honestly, Del is the biggest wasted opportunity of the three of them, and in the most need of development.
    One last thing, think we could stop killing the Carmines now? Imagine if it was still 4 player co-op and Gary Carmine was the fourth member in Gears 4, then Lizzie in Gears 5.

  • @brianachim2670
    @brianachim2670 2 роки тому +12

    Just give us a new Carmine, 50 percent of fans will love him immediately.

  • @lorddeathspit1124
    @lorddeathspit1124 2 роки тому +5

    They basically made someone’s emo girlfriend that face of the franchise. JD didn’t move the needle in G4 but they should’ve made the transition smoother than making him a war criminal.

  • @faithknight400
    @faithknight400 3 роки тому +16

    wait if lizzie carmine is the best female character then kait, then does that mean someone got jealous and be like "killed that B****!" and bring us back to how bland kait is?

    • @chimericx5647
      @chimericx5647  3 роки тому +4

      Ya potentially. For some reason I feel like they were trying to move away from stereotypical over the top badass characters, but I feel like those kind of characters fit the games aesthetic.

  • @TAS_Mania0414
    @TAS_Mania0414 2 роки тому +3

    I want the savage locust to come back into multi-player like they did in Gears 4

  • @Ghastly_Grinner
    @Ghastly_Grinner 10 місяців тому +1

    JD didn't need to be "Redeemed" he didn't do anything wrong there was a riot the rioters were throwing incendiary grenades at them of course you mow them down that is the right thing to do. DJ definitely should not have died

  • @MasterShake300
    @MasterShake300 Рік тому +4

    💯 Agree man. Shoving Kait down our necks was a massive mistake on the devs part. I had high hopes for the new generation of characters, but it's just really been a disappointment.

  • @thesorrow4664
    @thesorrow4664 Рік тому +3

    Easy Fix: in Gears 6 make JD the protagonist, have Kait becone antagonist savior by embracing the Horde as thier new leader and bring peace to the Sera.
    No more sequels please

  • @stephenandujo729
    @stephenandujo729 Рік тому +3

    Really wish you can play as Marcus Fenix once again in gears of war 4, and fix the story up a bit.

  • @NostalgiaNet8
    @NostalgiaNet8 10 місяців тому +1

    JD should have been the center of Gears 5. Kate never deserved it, yet they forced it. They Butchered the legacy characters, too.

  • @SunnyBoiOndaTrack
    @SunnyBoiOndaTrack 3 місяці тому +1

    Jd needs to be the main character

  • @headshotchase7128
    @headshotchase7128 3 роки тому +7

    mate I think if they did some Gears game or DLC involving the Post E-Day war between the Locust and Lambent were you could play as the Locust as Raam, Scorge, Jermad, Or Karn would be something amazing

    • @littlebadassgaming
      @littlebadassgaming 6 місяців тому +1

      So.. Raam's shadow?

    • @headshotchase7128
      @headshotchase7128 6 місяців тому

      @@littlebadassgaming Yeah, except have it be its own game instead of doc

  • @marcusclark1339
    @marcusclark1339 Рік тому +2

    basically modern politics, the workers decided to character shift to Kait cause ideology drivel and it shows in every way she acts, what characters excuse her actions and not JDs "bad actions" (again he did nothing wrong) and how favored she is to the Marcus and not his OWN SON
    there's no saving this story

  • @b1ngb018
    @b1ngb018 Рік тому +1

    2:44 for the longest time I was trying so hard to see why I didn’t like her and as soon as I heard this a light bulb when up in my head “that’s it!!!!” I just couldn’t place it for some reason

  • @sooper7374
    @sooper7374 Рік тому +3

    While I don't think Lizzie was all that (considering she's in one act) I think she definitely fit gears of war way more than kait. I think Cole had more depth in the novels/comics

  • @blackrose8418
    @blackrose8418 2 роки тому +6

    Kait is the most useless main character ever. Like almost as bad as Abby from the last of us part 2

  • @GnosisZX
    @GnosisZX 3 роки тому +6

    Kait lack of professionalism especially when she joins the COG is irksome Marcus gave Hoffman some shit but always fell in line with the chain of command during war time

    • @razorwireclouds5708
      @razorwireclouds5708 2 роки тому

      Kait's not a professional soldier tho. She's a 20-something-year-old kid who grew up an outsider and didn't survive the Pendulum, Locust and Lambent wars like the OG Gears cast. You lack perspective.

    • @GnosisZX
      @GnosisZX 2 роки тому +5

      @@razorwireclouds5708 doesn’t matter she enlisted and thus is bound to the chain of command especially during wartime in olden days she would been imprisoned or executed for her acts
      Her being young is irrelevant once you enlist you follow without question if she didn’t like this she should have never enlisted to begin with

    • @razorwireclouds5708
      @razorwireclouds5708 2 роки тому +1

      @@GnosisZX I agree with you that she's bound by the chain of command and that the consequences can be dire in the military.
      Then again, I'd like to remind you that Marcus went to prison for disobeying direct orders. I didn't see anyone moaning about his supposed lack of professionalism.

    • @GnosisZX
      @GnosisZX 2 роки тому +2

      @@razorwireclouds5708 he paid for it and even admitted the cog was right to imprison him Kate won’t pay at all for disobeying Jin

    • @razorwireclouds5708
      @razorwireclouds5708 2 роки тому

      @@GnosisZX He paid for it and said he "didn't blame them." He didn't say he agreed with the COG. And disobeying Jinn makes sense because Jinn is an idiot.

  • @InsanexPunisher
    @InsanexPunisher 3 роки тому +26

    Whinny characters don’t belong in war games.

    • @chimericx5647
      @chimericx5647  3 роки тому +9

      Facts

    • @madman9040
      @madman9040 3 роки тому +5

      Facts that is why they changed the from Gears of War 5 to just plane boring brand name Gears 5 😂

    • @gialy1
      @gialy1 Рік тому +1

      ​@@madman9040Rod Ferrgusson dumbest idea ever lmao

  • @jamespaguip5913
    @jamespaguip5913 3 роки тому +17

    I wish gears 4 and 5 are non canon.

    • @chimericx5647
      @chimericx5647  3 роки тому +6

      Agreed for sure. Just start over

    • @Salieri01
      @Salieri01 3 роки тому +7

      You don’t need to wish for it, just make it not. This games to me are pure cash grab, no soul, they don’t even try with them

  • @j-dawg4774
    @j-dawg4774 Рік тому +1

    Dont know much about Gears of War in general, but the first time i saw the trailer for Gears 5, going from JD, to playing as a brand new grief stricken protagonist abandon the mission just to go find her mom sounded like trash.

  • @Ghastly_Grinner
    @Ghastly_Grinner 10 місяців тому +1

    Baird is the best member of that squad if you ever were in the military you know Baird you served with Baird "There's room for one more its a fucking party down here"

  • @Monocash204
    @Monocash204 2 роки тому +3

    I hope that gears of war 6 sets off where gears of war 4 left off. Like a dream of sorts or something just so we can ignore this whole plot of gears of war 5 and maybe focus on J.D.

  • @JRMAV1
    @JRMAV1 3 місяці тому

    JD was getting better, he actually had character growth.

  • @bigdingus5359
    @bigdingus5359 4 місяці тому

    This is one of the best Gears breakdown videos. Id like to see your opinion since E-Day’s announcement.

  • @roderickmorales
    @roderickmorales Рік тому +2

    Well let’s hope Kait becomes the next villain… as in ‘the queen’ on the next Gears 6 so the player can kill off her character completely for good

  • @connoriquada5429
    @connoriquada5429 Рік тому +2

    Call me sexist or whatever cuz she’s a woman if you want but I think it sucked that gears 5 was about Kait. The character of the main group of gears of war 4 I cared least about. JD is Marcus’s son, he’s the Judith grimes of gears of war if you will. So immediately even if he’s a shit character, I care about him more because of the impact it would have on Marcus if something happened to him. I actually didn’t really like him in gears 4 or in act 1 of gears 5 cuz I thought he saw himself as more of a celebrity than a soldier, but that completely changed by the end of 5. So I kinda like him now all things considered. Del and Fahz have an interesting and kinda funny dynamic at times and Marcus is Marcus and the old cogs are the old cogs, they’re always great. Kait is just kinda thrown in there. I don’t really care about her, the outsiders, her story, or her connection to the swarm. In gears 5 I was way more interested in JDs redemption arc than the mystery behind Kaits connection. It was so lame that JD was gone for a lot of the game considering his arc was the one I wanted to see the most of, and that he (at least I think) should’ve been the protagonist of the game in the first place. I will say tho that I miss the macho manliness of the first 3 gears games. Every character was a juiced up basket of testosterone and that’s totally missing in gears 4/5. Even gears 3 had that, and gears 3 had so many badass female characters involved that 1 and 2 sorta lacked, I mean shit I don’t even think the first game had a woman in it unless you include the berserker or Anya’s voice. So I think it’s dope that there were so many badass woman in gears of war 3. But Kait isn’t a badass woman in gears of war. Anya, Sam, Lizzie, Bernie, and even jinn to some degree are good examples of the ones who are. You might disagree and think Jinn is a bitch, and while I agree, you can’t tell me she isn’t a boss bitch too. I think that counts for something.

  • @lincolnklayvr
    @lincolnklayvr 3 роки тому +6

    Gears 5 is woke garbage , Kait is a brat with every man she comes in contact with

  • @danielballinger9680
    @danielballinger9680 5 місяців тому +3

    I hate Kaits character too but calling Laura Bailey unconvincing is peak delusion.

    • @ebenezerstooge
      @ebenezerstooge 5 місяців тому +5

      No she is unconvincing. Being a good voice actress doesn’t mean you’re gonna deliver a good performance each time. Granted it’s not her fault since the character it’s self was terrible

  • @bockbuster60
    @bockbuster60 3 роки тому +9

    dom's sacrifice is not only saddest moment in the series but also the saddest moments in gaming history . gears of war series could be masterpiece in the future if they didnt launch gears 4 and 5

  • @gialy1
    @gialy1 Рік тому +1

    Honestly, the real here problem isn't even Kait's "whining", in fact in a certain sense I even understand her. With Gears 4 we spent more time shooting robots (half the campaign basically) and when the game actually gets good it ends with an ok plot twist. In Gears 5 we had to blame JD and make a very drastic decision in the end. but instead I blame Gears 4 for not knowing how to introduce us to the new characters and not knowing how to characterize them well. Gears 5 had to do 3 jobs in one: give us varied gameplay, be a fake sequel and add lore to the saga. Total failure.
    -SIDE NOTE-
    If you think that crying is in the wrong place in a war game
    I need to tell you that oooh boy how wrong are you guys
    Just go watch any well-written war film and see if you don't cry.
    ffs even Mel Gibson cried in "We Were Soldiers"

  • @lomborg4876
    @lomborg4876 Рік тому +9

    Gears of War ended with the third game

  • @Troubleshootingstar
    @Troubleshootingstar Рік тому +1

    (SUPER DUPER LATE!!) I agree with most of your points, but I would rather keep JD alive and find a way for him to still be memorable because as a huge Marcus fan, I couldn't bear to see him lose the only family he has left considering what we've seen him go through

    • @35327290
      @35327290 Рік тому

      Yeah, I loved Del, but I believe JD deserves a second chance

  • @Chunkerdunkers12
    @Chunkerdunkers12 Рік тому +1

    Lizzy Carmine was badass. In one scene she added to the Carmine family line really well. Something on par with Anthony and Clay, even Ben had a character development to him or at least some kind of emotional arc. Cait and her character just aren't convincing. In addition, something about the story has little to no consequences. The swarm just feels like a light leftover army from the locust with little organization.

  • @kubabooba548
    @kubabooba548 3 роки тому +3

    I tried playing Gears 5, but I felt like Gears Goonies or Gears with feelings. I played some of Gears and Gears 2, and from what I've played, it's better than Gears 5. The game feels more like a sitcom than an action game.

    • @razorwireclouds5708
      @razorwireclouds5708 2 роки тому

      Gears always had feelings. You were just too dim to notice, I suppose.

    • @rafabuda0
      @rafabuda0 Рік тому

      Fella Gears of War has always been about feelings. It's about fighting constantly againdt impossible odds. Or did you not notice that Dom's entire motivation for most of Gears 2 is to find his wife?

  • @MrRandomReviews
    @MrRandomReviews 3 роки тому +5

    how could you forget the SKIFF man...god i hate that thing....great video though

    • @chimericx5647
      @chimericx5647  3 роки тому +1

      The open worldish sections were easily my least favorite part of the game. I definitely would’ve talked about it more if I was talking more broadly about the game as a whole but ya I’m really baffled that the devs thought it was a good idea to put that in.

  • @Dukekabo0m09
    @Dukekabo0m09 Рік тому +1

    Honestly wish Lizzie was the main character in the game

  • @mistah3687
    @mistah3687 Рік тому +1

    I actually have an issue with how they portrayed the terrible situation and decision JD was forced to be in and make. The protest had gone violent, and he had to make a call. What was he supposed to do? Let the people he was in charge of get torched? It’s an awful situation with no clear right or wrong outcome and the game tries to portray it as a black and white situation.

  • @moretoastedthanatoasterstr9773

    As someone who's played all the gears games except 4&5 but I saw all the cutsenes I think it's a huge missed opportunity to not focus on Marcus's son and their relationship Marcus had a implied rocky relationship with his dad and obviously Marcus and son as George Lucas said its poetry it rhymes

    • @dkoda840
      @dkoda840 Рік тому

      At the beginning of gears 5 they were and it was entertaining and then sidelined JD immediately for Kait.

  • @USECXJ13
    @USECXJ13 Рік тому +1

    Modern game devs suck so hard at making a likable female protagonist

  • @Rip_R4
    @Rip_R4 Рік тому +1

    The only Coalition character I like is Lizzie

  • @flipyapd2321
    @flipyapd2321 2 роки тому +3

    I don’t understand why they couldn’t just use the OG characters

    • @Mary...22-u9j
      @Mary...22-u9j 2 роки тому

      i like the new charcters more

    • @flipyapd2321
      @flipyapd2321 2 роки тому +2

      @@Mary...22-u9j You must be a new fan

    • @Mary...22-u9j
      @Mary...22-u9j 2 роки тому

      @@flipyapd2321 naw i been playing since Gears 3 first came out

    • @justiceforjoggers2897
      @justiceforjoggers2897 Рік тому

      ​@@Mary...22-u9j
      That's a shame, I really don't like Judgement to 5 and I started playing the series with 2.

  • @dakotacollis5123
    @dakotacollis5123 3 роки тому +4

    why is that always a trend with modern day media and videogames...
    just the trend of "Oh hey lets put an actually good character in this game among the sea of shitty ones, then, now hear me out, we fuckin kill them in the next scene, thus, somehow by our logic, will make our current garbage characters seem even more awesome for living!"
    "G E N I U S"

  • @fxn09here
    @fxn09here 12 днів тому

    I really agree with you,I want to see more JD and his relationships.

  • @NickCC4823
    @NickCC4823 4 місяці тому

    “How dare you stand where he stood” had me geekin 😂😂😂

  • @jklapmeyer
    @jklapmeyer Рік тому +4

    I completely agree with you on the character analysis...BUT...it's generationally accurate...especially from a military standpoint...and although the characters are...bothersome...the writers did a great job displaying the generational gap....but yes if all the new characters died I wouldn't be upset...bring Dizzy back for some great laughs...and I LOVED your suggestion that it should've been JD sacrificing himself at the end...that would've been redeeming...overall I loved your video

  • @ross3986
    @ross3986 Місяць тому

    Imagine if Lizzy and Gary Carmine were apart of the main group and were fighting alongside JD and Del, essentially the next generation of Marcus, Dom, Baird and Cole. Would have been cool but oh well

  • @theonewithnoname1922
    @theonewithnoname1922 2 роки тому +1

    RIP Lizzie. Wish we could switch Kait for lizzie.

  • @connornoiles2447
    @connornoiles2447 2 роки тому +1

    Even though he was bland JD was still the only new protagonist I actually started to like.. I was very reluctant to continue on when I heard the next one was all about Kait. That annoying girl who felt like my tag along..

  • @TheLoneSpartan116
    @TheLoneSpartan116 2 роки тому +1

    Fahz was gears 5's redeeming character and i want more of him.

  • @JCDenton2012Modder
    @JCDenton2012Modder 3 роки тому +2

    Gonna be real. I wish Cait had been Brand instead. Alex Brand is "The Perfect" female protagonist for Gears of War.

    • @Ekdrink
      @Ekdrink 2 роки тому

      She should be in a game. Best female char in gow

  • @sairaibarra3060
    @sairaibarra3060 9 місяців тому +1

    I cant believe Marcus called Del BLACK

  • @MildCrisp
    @MildCrisp 2 роки тому +4

    Jack's sacrifice was more impactful than anything that happened in gow 4 or 5

  • @Lancinator1
    @Lancinator1 10 місяців тому +2

    So well spoken. I agreed with every point you made.

  • @LowPing156
    @LowPing156 3 роки тому +1

    Hopefully I'm not the only one but do the characters in this game look less bulky compared to the previous games. Like the characters aren't wearing big armor to fight the swarm or locust

  • @rabbitsfoot8
    @rabbitsfoot8 3 роки тому +4

    so glad you did this video...i always feel like i'm the only one who doesn't like her

  • @Csdabest89
    @Csdabest89 Рік тому +1

    I feel JD is worst than Del because his claim to fame is literally Marcus Fenix child. Del While a JD Clone actualluy developed on his own as a tech wiz and actually shown to be a true friend and soldier with brain

  • @brucelee6415
    @brucelee6415 3 роки тому +2

    Reboot gears of war and give Jaeger studios (the guys behind spec ops the line) total creative control if the original team can't do it.

  • @tricky2910
    @tricky2910 2 роки тому +5

    Kait feels like what would happen if you gave a moody teenager an assault rifle and told them to go kill the knock off grubs

    • @razorwireclouds5708
      @razorwireclouds5708 2 роки тому

      Kait IS a moody 20-something. She's not a gruff soldier who grew up fighting in the Pendulum, Locust and Lambent wars like the OG gears squad. Get some perspective, bruv.

    • @holdentudiks7123
      @holdentudiks7123 Рік тому

      @@razorwireclouds5708 British and a cuck? Checks out

  • @Taitosalad
    @Taitosalad 4 місяці тому

    Well we won’t be seeing these characters in next game that’s for sure.

  • @gingyreviews1556
    @gingyreviews1556 10 місяців тому

    I didn’t mind the new characters but will agree with your criticism I didn’t find them bad per say but definitely would have rather played as Marcus

  • @Elnegro..
    @Elnegro.. 2 роки тому +1

    Funny thing is I sorta liked Kate in 4, she was kinda just their but she was alright in 5 she was a trash character who for some reason with absolutely no experience what so ever was bossing around people above her not only in rank but in experience as well like Marcus, you know the man lead in the penjamin wars, the man who not only became a legend who's squad pretty much won the war by themselves, a squad in which he lead.

  • @AfroGaz71
    @AfroGaz71 5 місяців тому +1

    Looks like The Coalition may have been listening. 😁
    One other thing that should be mentioned about the OG character's is that they looked and sounded like they lived through some dark shit.

  • @oscarcordero7811
    @oscarcordero7811 2 роки тому +1

    Marcus should remain as the main character of every gears game. Instead of forcefeeding us new dumb characters

  • @coreycasciano3255
    @coreycasciano3255 9 місяців тому +1

    Kait is the worst, i like JD, Del annoying as shit
    I fucking hate how they pushed JD to the side to make Kait the main character 🤮

  • @sensufr219
    @sensufr219 4 місяці тому

    2:11 I thought somebody was calling me 😂

  • @juliovictormanuelschaeffer8370
    @juliovictormanuelschaeffer8370 3 роки тому +4

    Another shit character voiced by Laura Bailey? Never happened before, right?
    TLOU 2: *nervously goes to a corner.*

  • @octaviogonzalez8794
    @octaviogonzalez8794 3 роки тому +2

    Baird is the most important living human on Sera put some respect on his name

  • @irbisae4964
    @irbisae4964 Рік тому +1

    Honestly i finished gears 5 last week. Game was good but when i had to decide who to spare. I was like whatever XDD i really didnt care. So i spared marcuss son because i could not do my fav character like this after what happend to don and anya...

  • @FervantTwo8
    @FervantTwo8 Рік тому +2

    One thing I will say. The chainsaw bayonet wasn’t that crazy of an idea. The idea came when the bayonet of the retro lancer couldn’t reliably pierce locust skin because of how tough it is. Tai from gears two had to improvise a bit and found that a power saw was reeeeally good at cutting the locust in half. Marcus saw this and spoke to his dad who worked in weapons development and the lancer was born.

  • @Bionic8J
    @Bionic8J Рік тому

    I liked that we were seeing Kate's relation to the locust horde, but the way it was performed was poor.

  • @markd8786
    @markd8786 2 роки тому +1

    So basically the next year's game won't have a foundation because gears 5 is basically KAIT Diaz is better than our main character because she's a strong woman of color that's not a foundation for a story and we're not fighting new enemies either they're just rebuilt

  • @chickendrawsdogs3343
    @chickendrawsdogs3343 9 місяців тому

    One line, one line from Marcus and he's already up there on orbit:
    "Dom, it's ok."

  • @chewyuanqiang
    @chewyuanqiang 5 місяців тому

    I feel like they could have done more with Kait and she and many of the new generation of Gears could have been likable if they had written them VERY VERY, differently from how we see them in the games and NOT kill them off in anticlimactic ways. Kait herself could have acted more badass while still getting herself beaten and taught humility throughout her growth instead of arrogantly believing she was important all the time. If they wanted to still make her say the whole "It's about me!" thing, they should have followed up with a reality check like "Oh shit, it was NEVER about me. I need to make sacrifices like everyone else." And let everyone work together for something instead of all the unneeded family drama. Marcus and Dom had drama but it was very minor and easily resolved to emphasize their bond as brothers in arms. The new Gears feel like watching them bicker like a family movie.