*Quick note:* I am well aware of the extended cut and the extra scenes which showcase some of these interactions (I believe I even mention it in the video). But, just like for the first movie, we will follow the theatrical cut for this series, and then at the very end as a bonus episode we'll dive into all the extended scenes. 👀 I am looking forward to it!
There are three items in Borgin's shop that will be important later in HBP. 1. The cursed necklace. Hermione saw it again in the 6th book. Draco tried to send the necklace to Dumbledore, but cursed Katie Bell instead. 2. The Vanishing Cabinet. Harry was hiding inside it, but didn't close the door. It is definitely the Cabinet, because its pair in Hogwarts will be mentioned later in this book. It's gonna be broken, and that's why Draco will have to fix it four years later. 3. The Hand of Glory. That withered hand that grabbed Harry - Draco will use it to light the way to Death Eaters after letting them inside the school.
Lockhart's requirement for his students to purchase his books for class strongly reminds me of one of my uni profs - ALL his books were required reading. 😂
And several of my proffesors just threw out the books as a whole I only had one proffesor who actually could have written his own book as he had a docrate
A doctorate is not a requisite of publishing a book. (Speaking as someone with a doctorate, who is also a professor). It is odd that you’d only have one professor with a terminal degree in their field. I’ve published a bunch, and have some of my work in reference texts. That said, I haven’t published my own book; but that’s not exactly odd in my field. Also… your professor should feel that their work is the best option to teach from. If they didn’t think it was important enough to go through the work to research and publish, they wouldn’t (or shouldn’t) have done it.
@stringsalive20 he just didn't think you could learn as much from books as you could doing what they were teaching Yeah most of my teachers had bachelor degrees it's illinois and all were actually very knowledgeable
Lucius and Arthur's fight also gives us idea why other weasley kids(exept Percy) are like that. We see so many instances in the books where they don't care to get their hands dirty if anyone insults their family (the famous ootp scene). It also makes me remember when Ron suggests Harry to punch Malfoy if he couldn't think of any hex during the supposed duel in the 1st book. But in the movies its shown as Arthur didn't say anything as he couldn't think of a comeback which is seriously not how Arthur Weasley is.
Also it is supposed to show how 'older world' the Wizarding World is... in England in the 1990s if you were to get in to a brawl like that at a London shop... you're both going to the Police station, and ONE of you is going to Jail, at least in the over-night lockup once they decide who is at fault. In the Wizarding World, which is much more like the 1800s than the 1900s... Someone breaks it up, and tells them both to go soak their heads... no police getting involved. Again, that's just not how the 1990s London would work.
I think the cabinet is the vanishing cabinet from book 5 and 6. In the books, Harry is careful to keep the door ajar to see what's going on, so no vanishing
@@reeceemms1643 It was planned. In Chamber of Secrets chapter 8, The Deathday Party, we get the first mention of the vanishing cabinet at Hogwarts. Harry was in Filch's office being disciplined for trailing mud into the school, when Nick saves him by persuading Peeves to knock over and break the cabinet on the floor above. Filch told Mrs. Norris "That vanishing cabinet was extremely valuable". It's not a coincidence that both of the paired cabinets were first mentioned in the same book.
@@stuartmcnaughton1495 The Vanishing Cabinet at Hogwarts is also the one into which Fred and George shoved Montague, the Slytherin Quidditch player, who was caught in limbo until at last he decided to try to Disapparate, resulting in Montague's stay in St. Mungo's.
I think it's confirmed to be the opposite side_partner of tge same vanishing cabinet. It's not working so Harry doesn't get transported, but in the 6th Draco is fixing the partner in Hogwarts, once fixed, the path is reestablish and tge death eaters can use the one at Borgin an Burkes to enter Hogwarts. (I think tge first book mentions one of the players on tge Slytherin Quiditch team getting shoved into it by the twins, but after he's out, the connection is broken, and I don't remember if it's mentioned again until Harry's trying to hide snape's book in tge room of requirement before Draco fixing it allows the death eaters in.
They are allowed to do magic on the train. The end of this book mentions them using the last bit of their time being allowed to use magic, Hermione would have certainly gotten in trouble for doing magic in diagon alley. There are many instances where magic is used on the train rides: Hermione repairing a glass door, Draco and gang getting jinxed to oblivion on 2 separate occasions and Draco using petrificus totalis on Harry.
The books did mention the method used for detecting is imprecise and imply it tends to be overlooked in areas a lot of magic is already expected. In the Chamber of Secrets, Harry got accused when Dobby used magic specifically because he was the only known magical being in the house. In Order of the Pheonix, Umbridge was almost certainly monitoring the Dementor attack.
The scene in the book where Arthur and Lucius throw down, sort of mirrors how Harry and Draco's "duel" was described to Harry by Ron in Philosophers (Sorcerer's) Stone
@hukgonzo Mongoose kill snakes, even cobras (google). A weasel and a Mongoose look very similar. So it's thematically cool for Slytherins and Malfoys to hate Weaselys. And for Weaselys to always end up in the school house that has a traditional rivalry with the snake house. The books are full of subtle nods to things like this.
One element that you omitted that was key to understanding why Lucius Malfoy dropped Tom Riddle's diary in Ginny Weasley's cauldron is that the "Muggle Protection Act that is causing the Malfoys so many issues is authored by and being pushed by Arthur Weasley. Malfoy, not knowing what the Diary actually is, does know that it is from Voldemort and he wants to embarrass Arthur Weasley - hence his dumping the diary on Ginny...
An interesting change in the movie is that Lucius says he will see Arthur at work, but they don’t work together in the book. Lucius is a school governor, but he doesn’t work for the Ministry of Magic. Also, I think that since the movies were geared towards kids, they removed most of the fist fights from the entire series to discourage trying to solve problems that way!
This movie made me feel like they were going to set up a running gag of Hermione repairing Harry's glasses in every film, but then they just stopped doing it.
I like the idea that hermione was always fixing harrys glasses even tho it seems like a pretty easy and very useful spell that harry should have been able to do himself lol
While for the most part I can agree with your statements, but you are incorrect about magic on the train. It is allowed, the end of book 2 explicitly mentions them enjoying their last hours they're allowed to use magic on the train "Too soon it was time for the journey home on the Hogwarts Express. Harry, Ron, Hermione, Fred, George and Ginny got a compartment to themselves. They made the most of the last few hours in which they were allowed to do magic before the Holidays." And in later books a LOT of magic happens on the train, from Malfoy and his crew getting hit with tons of spells from the DA members, to Ginny's hex that got Slughorns' attention, and much, much more. Furthermore the trace doesn't tell the Ministry who performed the spell, this is the entire reason for the plotline with Harry's near expulsion due to Dobby. The Ministry becomes aware that magic was performed in the presence of an underage witch/wizard, but not who performed the magic, since Harry was known to be the only wizard in the general area they then assume it was him, in a place like Diagon Ally that would be going off all the time, there's a lot of magic going on all over the place there, so if a student was using magic there and it wasn't actually seen by others, the Ministry would not be any the wiser. This goes on to be a part of the overarching plotlines of the inequalities of students with magic families compared to muggleborns, as for example the Weasleys are able to do magic at home without any issues because the Ministry wouldn't be able to tell whether it was the kids or the parents who performed it, and to checkup on the family every time a spell was used would be a massive waste of time.
Fun thought it would have been to see Arthur Weasley having a scrap with Lucius (and very much in keeping with the "rough lads" portrayal of James Potter's school year) I do love Mark Williams' delivery as he presents himself as the bigger man in that confrontation
The Weasley’s practically ignoring Harry plays into chaotic large family tropes, where there are so many kids that no one is missed when they go missing. You already get a disorganized feeling from the burrow, which is littered with magical stuff strange to Harry; then add a family of seven-which, yeah, isn’t that big, but way more people than Harry’s used to as an only child-and you get one big…whirlwind of…something
Yes, harry hide in the same cabinet, it was good that he didn’t closed it completely. The cabinet at Hogwarts was not broken yet so if he did he had got to Hogwarts ”a bit” faster than he planned 😅 And a lot more confused. But some of the teachers lives at the castle full time so an equal confused professor had probably helped him back to (I base that on the fact that Trelawney and Hagrid does that, but of course Hagrid was not at home during that day. But I find it very unlikely that they are the only two who lives there full time).
The big reason is they wanted to keep the movies more family friendly. They actually remove a few other physical fights from the movies for this same reason.
Differences between the book and the movie used to really bug me. Then it hit me. The books and the movies are not the same story. They are alternate versions. Things that happen in the Harry Potter books have nothing whatsoever to do with things that happen in the movies. A classic example is the book and the movie 2001. These two were written together as a collaboration between Clarke and Kubrick. Originally the plan was to have USS Discovery travel to Saturn where they discover that the moon Iapetus was not a natural object, it was a stargate. At the time little was known about this tiny moon other than the fact it is half white and half black. There were some who thought Iapetus could not possible be a natural object (it is natural) and in the book it would be an alien artifact left by the same beings who left the monoliths. However, Kubrick could not properly depict the rings of Saturn in a way that would look good, and so he decided they would all go to Jupiter instead. In the forward to 2010, Clarke makes clear 2010 is a sequel of the movie, not the book. This was when I realized, the book and the movie are not the same story.
Hermione wouldn't have been caught using magic in a place full of wizards like Diagon Alley. The trace only shows that a spell has been cast in the vicinity. It doesn't identify who cast it.
With how things were shot and edited, I agree with the movie making Lucius's first appearance being in the book store. In the deleted scene he just kind of calmly appears and acts friendly with a peer, whereas in the book store his cain comes down on Draco's shoulder and is very confrontational with Harry and the Weasleys. It's a much better character introduction in the context of the movie.
I was only 8 when the movie hit theaters and hadn’t read the second book, but I distinctly remember a very destructive duel between Arthur and Lucius in the bookshop. I loved that scene and was surprised when it wasn’t in the DVD I got later. Even in the extended version on Peacock it’s left out. I wish they had left it in!
Arthur Weasley's not the only one to punch Lucius Malfoy in the face in the books. In "Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix", Sirius Black III also gets to punch Malfoy in the face as well. Not that Malfoy can't hold his own with his fists as well.
There is a small point I will point out in the scene between Arthur and Lucius in the movie though, when Lucius puts the book back in the cauldron... you can see a 2nd book behind it, one that wasn't there when he first grabbed it. Which does become important later in the movie, but we don't even get an indication of this happening in the book until near the end.
I think part of the reason the books were more expensive that year is that Lockhart's books are all recent publications. The usual schoolbooks are probably the same ones that the school has been using for years. Those could be purchased used, for less than a new copy. Remember that the twins and Percy also have books for their classes, and they are also taking electives. Bill's and Charlie's old books would only last so long. Lockhart's books haven't reached the point of someone willingly selling them back to the bookstore. All copies available for sale at Flourish and Blott's will be new books.
In the movie"HARRY POTTER AND THE CHAMBER OF SECRETS" there is a bonus cut that has extras that weren't in the theatrical cut and one of the scenes showed where Harry is hidden in the cabinet (the one Draco mends in year 6) and you here all of the dialogue between Lucios and Borigin.
I can see why it kind of got cut out. I mean it is funny and does get a few laughs especially even today by me. But at the same time, I think it would have slowed down the flow of a Chamber of Secrets. I mean there was a lot they had to cut out for the Chamber of Secrets movie and one of these moments was one of the best ones they could have cut out especially along with the Ghost Party.
13:22 I think this is a foreshadowing of how they used the Peruvian darkness powder at Hogwarts later in the series at Hogwarts alongside the withered hand and a candle
I am glad I read the books before I watched the movies... helped me see the difference and realize they were not the same just alternate timeless of simliar events.
I've been reading the series since I have seen the movies a bunch of times, just so see what's different. Not only are there changes between books and movies, but there has also been some changes in the U.S. printed books versus those originally written in the U.K. (mostly due to the use of some slang terms that we Americans would likely not understand). I'm currently on Goblet of Fire, and enjoying the series. Am also thoroughly enjoying your synopsis of the differences.
15:14 While that's true, I doubt in a highly magical place such as Diagon Alley anyone would notice with everyone doing magic all over the place, nor would Trace be any kind of useful considering it only says that magic was used but doesn't say who did it. What are they going to do, arrest every student who was there to pick up books?
I always suspected it was when I heard about the vanishing cabinets later especially since it mentioned that one of them came from there and it wasn't working
There is no thinking it is the vanishing cabinet. It absolutely is the vanishing cabinet connected to the cabinet peeves smashed to distract filch. The say as much later in the books. Montage gets stuck in the broken cabinet in hogwarts. He could hear stuff from B&B that is what gave Draco the idea to fix the cabinet at hogwarts.
That’s the twin vanishing cabinet to the one Fred and George sticks Montegue in it breaks while he’s in there and when they get him back the dump the broken cabinet in the room of banished items from the room of requirement
They literally made Harry say lumos in 3rd movie in his house, and then talking to minister about underage magic. Where is the logic. But atleast these 2 instances can be backed up as on train and the diagon alley, its only wizards and witches(and parents of muggleborn), so its safe. Also Ministry can only trace the place and not the person due to which Harry got his first warning. And Fred and George say they do magic constantly in Burrow cause no one can trace.
I'm schizophrenic, I had this book read to me by an ex gf, it was after the movies had come out so I had material to drawn on I guess, but I totally schized the scenes from the book that were missing Back into my memory of the movie. I vividly recall the fight scene between Weasley and Malfoy as it broke out into the street as though id seen in the film, *I e of the best parts (yes there are good parts) of being Schizophrenic is reading... My experience when I read is beautiful. Reading when ur on the edge like that can also help bring u back safely
OK, I feel the need to point this out: Hermione's offence in the movie version was not her _second_ time, because her fixing Harry's eyeglasses in _Harry Potter and the Philosopher's Stone_ was not against the wizarding laws. This is because of two reasons: 1. They were at the Hogwarts Express, where other children have also performed magic, even in the books. 2. Performing magic outside Howarts is forbidden for underage _pupils,_ not other underage children - and Hermione was not yet a pupil of Hogwarts at that point. Fixing Harry's eyeglasses with magic again in the second movie is definitely a violation against the law, though. But it was her first, not the second time.
It's slept on that Mr and Mrs. (we're focusing on mr.) Weasley Raised a whole line up of Gangsters. In their own ways each of the Weasley children excelled at whatever they applied themselves to. That and they ALL stood on business, and I bet cash money that came from their Dad standing on his morals about "what sullies the name of wizard." and so on. That and when he instinctively ask "How'd it go?" Vs scolding the boys for taking the car. Mr. Weasley is that mf simply trying to be a calm and happy family man.
IF you want to make the argument for the kids using magic, we know that the ministry can't tell exactly who cast the spell, only the location where the spell was cast. So, using magic in Diagon Alley or the school train would make it impossible for the Ministry to know who is casting magic. Making enforcement impossible.
its such a big omission too, arthur weasley seems like a goofy pencil pusher but is in the order of the phoenix and has likely killed a few people and fought for his life
Lucius doesn’t work at the Ministry of Magic. He’s so rich he doesn’t have to work. It always bugged me that they added him telling Arthur “I’ll see you at work.” Because Malfoy doesn’t have a job.
The movies don’t actually make sense as stand alone stories, the editors got a bit carried away. If you don’t have some extra knowledge about what was cut or changed you stand no chance against the plot holes, and there are enough already. I understand that the movies will be truncated and adapted, but they still need to have a coherent plot, and they just didn’t. It’s a source of great frustration for me.
You know what gets me the weasley's take Harry and you know as their own why didn't Harry use his money which he had crap tons of to help the weasleys you know he could have helped him with their schooling and the books and stuff like that you know you'd think he'd at least do that you know to show at least he's gracious for what they do for him but you never see that you just see Harry's just a spoiled rotten little Bratz
*Quick note:* I am well aware of the extended cut and the extra scenes which showcase some of these interactions (I believe I even mention it in the video). But, just like for the first movie, we will follow the theatrical cut for this series, and then at the very end as a bonus episode we'll dive into all the extended scenes. 👀 I am looking forward to it!
Looshous Malfoy?
There are three items in Borgin's shop that will be important later in HBP.
1. The cursed necklace. Hermione saw it again in the 6th book. Draco tried to send the necklace to Dumbledore, but cursed Katie Bell instead.
2. The Vanishing Cabinet. Harry was hiding inside it, but didn't close the door. It is definitely the Cabinet, because its pair in Hogwarts will be mentioned later in this book. It's gonna be broken, and that's why Draco will have to fix it four years later.
3. The Hand of Glory. That withered hand that grabbed Harry - Draco will use it to light the way to Death Eaters after letting them inside the school.
Yeah that scene had some serious setup for a later payoff.
Lockhart's requirement for his students to purchase his books for class strongly reminds me of one of my uni profs - ALL his books were required reading. 😂
Abusing the power.
And several of my proffesors just threw out the books as a whole
I only had one proffesor who actually could have written his own book as he had a docrate
A doctorate is not a requisite of publishing a book. (Speaking as someone with a doctorate, who is also a professor). It is odd that you’d only have one professor with a terminal degree in their field. I’ve published a bunch, and have some of my work in reference texts. That said, I haven’t published my own book; but that’s not exactly odd in my field.
Also… your professor should feel that their work is the best option to teach from. If they didn’t think it was important enough to go through the work to research and publish, they wouldn’t (or shouldn’t) have done it.
@stringsalive20 he just didn't think you could learn as much from books as you could doing what they were teaching
Yeah most of my teachers had bachelor degrees it's illinois and all were actually very knowledgeable
Lucius and Arthur's fight also gives us idea why other weasley kids(exept Percy) are like that. We see so many instances in the books where they don't care to get their hands dirty if anyone insults their family (the famous ootp scene). It also makes me remember when Ron suggests Harry to punch Malfoy if he couldn't think of any hex during the supposed duel in the 1st book. But in the movies its shown as Arthur didn't say anything as he couldn't think of a comeback which is seriously not how Arthur Weasley is.
Also it is supposed to show how 'older world' the Wizarding World is... in England in the 1990s if you were to get in to a brawl like that at a London shop... you're both going to the Police station, and ONE of you is going to Jail, at least in the over-night lockup once they decide who is at fault.
In the Wizarding World, which is much more like the 1800s than the 1900s... Someone breaks it up, and tells them both to go soak their heads... no police getting involved. Again, that's just not how the 1990s London would work.
I think the cabinet is the vanishing cabinet from book 5 and 6. In the books, Harry is careful to keep the door ajar to see what's going on, so no vanishing
At the time of the book release I don't think it was, it depends on how much was planned.
@@reeceemms1643 It was planned. In Chamber of Secrets chapter 8, The Deathday Party, we get the first mention of the vanishing cabinet at Hogwarts. Harry was in Filch's office being disciplined for trailing mud into the school, when Nick saves him by persuading Peeves to knock over and break the cabinet on the floor above. Filch told Mrs. Norris "That vanishing cabinet was extremely valuable". It's not a coincidence that both of the paired cabinets were first mentioned in the same book.
@@reeceemms1643it was planned, in the same scene Harry watches the cursed necklace Draco attempted to send to Dumbledore in book 6.
@@stuartmcnaughton1495 The Vanishing Cabinet at Hogwarts is also the one into which Fred and George shoved Montague, the Slytherin Quidditch player, who was caught in limbo until at last he decided to try to Disapparate, resulting in Montague's stay in St. Mungo's.
I think it's confirmed to be the opposite side_partner of tge same vanishing cabinet. It's not working so Harry doesn't get transported, but in the 6th Draco is fixing the partner in Hogwarts, once fixed, the path is reestablish and tge death eaters can use the one at Borgin an Burkes to enter Hogwarts. (I think tge first book mentions one of the players on tge Slytherin Quiditch team getting shoved into it by the twins, but after he's out, the connection is broken, and I don't remember if it's mentioned again until Harry's trying to hide snape's book in tge room of requirement before Draco fixing it allows the death eaters in.
They are allowed to do magic on the train. The end of this book mentions them using the last bit of their time being allowed to use magic, Hermione would have certainly gotten in trouble for doing magic in diagon alley.
There are many instances where magic is used on the train rides: Hermione repairing a glass door, Draco and gang getting jinxed to oblivion on 2 separate occasions and Draco using petrificus totalis on Harry.
The books did mention the method used for detecting is imprecise and imply it tends to be overlooked in areas a lot of magic is already expected. In the Chamber of Secrets, Harry got accused when Dobby used magic specifically because he was the only known magical being in the house. In Order of the Pheonix, Umbridge was almost certainly monitoring the Dementor attack.
The scene in the book where Arthur and Lucius throw down, sort of mirrors how Harry and Draco's "duel" was described to Harry by Ron in Philosophers (Sorcerer's) Stone
I love the subtle mongoose vs snake rivalry between the families
What mongoose? #curious
@hukgonzo
Mongoose kill snakes, even cobras (google). A weasel and a Mongoose look very similar. So it's thematically cool for Slytherins and Malfoys to hate Weaselys. And for Weaselys to always end up in the school house that has a traditional rivalry with the snake house. The books are full of subtle nods to things like this.
I always wanted more of Mr. Weasley. Hope they add more of this rivalry in the upcoming Max series
One element that you omitted that was key to understanding why Lucius Malfoy dropped Tom Riddle's diary in Ginny Weasley's cauldron is that the "Muggle Protection Act that is causing the Malfoys so many issues is authored by and being pushed by Arthur Weasley. Malfoy, not knowing what the Diary actually is, does know that it is from Voldemort and he wants to embarrass Arthur Weasley - hence his dumping the diary on Ginny...
An interesting change in the movie is that Lucius says he will see Arthur at work, but they don’t work together in the book. Lucius is a school governor, but he doesn’t work for the Ministry of Magic.
Also, I think that since the movies were geared towards kids, they removed most of the fist fights from the entire series to discourage trying to solve problems that way!
Maybe he meant he will see Arthur at Authur's workplace. Since he's so well connected.
theres two deleted scenes where we meet Mr Borgin, infact one of the deleted scenes was the proper introduction of lucius which followed the book.
This movie made me feel like they were going to set up a running gag of Hermione repairing Harry's glasses in every film, but then they just stopped doing it.
I like the idea that hermione was always fixing harrys glasses even tho it seems like a pretty easy and very useful spell that harry should have been able to do himself lol
I just assumed Harry learned that spell after the basilisk encounter.
While for the most part I can agree with your statements, but you are incorrect about magic on the train. It is allowed, the end of book 2 explicitly mentions them enjoying their last hours they're allowed to use magic on the train "Too soon it was time for the journey home on the Hogwarts Express. Harry, Ron, Hermione, Fred, George and Ginny got a compartment to themselves. They made the most of the last few hours in which they were allowed to do magic before the Holidays." And in later books a LOT of magic happens on the train, from Malfoy and his crew getting hit with tons of spells from the DA members, to Ginny's hex that got Slughorns' attention, and much, much more.
Furthermore the trace doesn't tell the Ministry who performed the spell, this is the entire reason for the plotline with Harry's near expulsion due to Dobby. The Ministry becomes aware that magic was performed in the presence of an underage witch/wizard, but not who performed the magic, since Harry was known to be the only wizard in the general area they then assume it was him, in a place like Diagon Ally that would be going off all the time, there's a lot of magic going on all over the place there, so if a student was using magic there and it wasn't actually seen by others, the Ministry would not be any the wiser. This goes on to be a part of the overarching plotlines of the inequalities of students with magic families compared to muggleborns, as for example the Weasleys are able to do magic at home without any issues because the Ministry wouldn't be able to tell whether it was the kids or the parents who performed it, and to checkup on the family every time a spell was used would be a massive waste of time.
I wish we could have seen Arthur throw hands in the movie ❤️
Fun thought it would have been to see Arthur Weasley having a scrap with Lucius (and very much in keeping with the "rough lads" portrayal of James Potter's school year) I do love Mark Williams' delivery as he presents himself as the bigger man in that confrontation
The Weasley’s practically ignoring Harry plays into chaotic large family tropes, where there are so many kids that no one is missed when they go missing. You already get a disorganized feeling from the burrow, which is littered with magical stuff strange to Harry; then add a family of seven-which, yeah, isn’t that big, but way more people than Harry’s used to as an only child-and you get one big…whirlwind of…something
"whilrwind of... something" ... that "something" would be "chaos"
In the extended version, we see borgin and burkes scene though slightly shortened.
I was going to comment that. From what I remember, it's pretty much what happens in the book
This is cool. Love seeing someone who actually read the books.
Yes, harry hide in the same cabinet, it was good that he didn’t closed it completely. The cabinet at Hogwarts was not broken yet so if he did he had got to Hogwarts ”a bit” faster than he planned 😅 And a lot more confused. But some of the teachers lives at the castle full time so an equal confused professor had probably helped him back to (I base that on the fact that Trelawney and Hagrid does that, but of course Hagrid was not at home during that day. But I find it very unlikely that they are the only two who lives there full time).
The big reason is they wanted to keep the movies more family friendly. They actually remove a few other physical fights from the movies for this same reason.
Differences between the book and the movie used to really bug me. Then it hit me. The books and the movies are not the same story. They are alternate versions. Things that happen in the Harry Potter books have nothing whatsoever to do with things that happen in the movies.
A classic example is the book and the movie 2001. These two were written together as a collaboration between Clarke and Kubrick. Originally the plan was to have USS Discovery travel to Saturn where they discover that the moon Iapetus was not a natural object, it was a stargate.
At the time little was known about this tiny moon other than the fact it is half white and half black. There were some who thought Iapetus could not possible be a natural object (it is natural) and in the book it would be an alien artifact left by the same beings who left the monoliths.
However, Kubrick could not properly depict the rings of Saturn in a way that would look good, and so he decided they would all go to Jupiter instead.
In the forward to 2010, Clarke makes clear 2010 is a sequel of the movie, not the book.
This was when I realized, the book and the movie are not the same story.
Hermione wouldn't have been caught using magic in a place full of wizards like Diagon Alley. The trace only shows that a spell has been cast in the vicinity. It doesn't identify who cast it.
Out of all the characters I
love gilderoy lockhart as his character was so outrageous, he was almost a caricature of myself.
Thats not something you should be proud of, Gideroy was a fruad and used his outrages personality to try to hide that fact...
With how things were shot and edited, I agree with the movie making Lucius's first appearance being in the book store. In the deleted scene he just kind of calmly appears and acts friendly with a peer, whereas in the book store his cain comes down on Draco's shoulder and is very confrontational with Harry and the Weasleys. It's a much better character introduction in the context of the movie.
I was only 8 when the movie hit theaters and hadn’t read the second book, but I distinctly remember a very destructive duel between Arthur and Lucius in the bookshop. I loved that scene and was surprised when it wasn’t in the DVD I got later. Even in the extended version on Peacock it’s left out. I wish they had left it in!
It would have served mister Malfoy right to get the snobbery punched out of him!!
Arthur Weasley's not the only one to punch Lucius Malfoy in the face in the books.
In "Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix", Sirius Black III also gets to punch Malfoy in the face as well.
Not that Malfoy can't hold his own with his fists as well.
1:54 got jumpscared by myself 😂💀
There is a small point I will point out in the scene between Arthur and Lucius in the movie though, when Lucius puts the book back in the cauldron... you can see a 2nd book behind it, one that wasn't there when he first grabbed it. Which does become important later in the movie, but we don't even get an indication of this happening in the book until near the end.
I think part of the reason the books were more expensive that year is that Lockhart's books are all recent publications. The usual schoolbooks are probably the same ones that the school has been using for years. Those could be purchased used, for less than a new copy. Remember that the twins and Percy also have books for their classes, and they are also taking electives. Bill's and Charlie's old books would only last so long. Lockhart's books haven't reached the point of someone willingly selling them back to the bookstore. All copies available for sale at Flourish and Blott's will be new books.
In the movie"HARRY POTTER AND THE CHAMBER OF SECRETS" there is a bonus cut that has extras that weren't in the theatrical cut and one of the scenes showed where Harry is hidden in the cabinet (the one Draco mends in year 6) and you here all of the dialogue between Lucios and Borigin.
I can see why it kind of got cut out. I mean it is funny and does get a few laughs especially even today by me. But at the same time, I think it would have slowed down the flow of a Chamber of Secrets. I mean there was a lot they had to cut out for the Chamber of Secrets movie and one of these moments was one of the best ones they could have cut out especially along with the Ghost Party.
13:22 I think this is a foreshadowing of how they used the Peruvian darkness powder at Hogwarts later in the series at Hogwarts alongside the withered hand and a candle
I am glad I read the books before I watched the movies... helped me see the difference and realize they were not the same just alternate timeless of simliar events.
I've been reading the series since I have seen the movies a bunch of times, just so see what's different. Not only are there changes between books and movies, but there has also been some changes in the U.S. printed books versus those originally written in the U.K. (mostly due to the use of some slang terms that we Americans would likely not understand). I'm currently on Goblet of Fire, and enjoying the series. Am also thoroughly enjoying your synopsis of the differences.
15:14 While that's true, I doubt in a highly magical place such as Diagon Alley anyone would notice with everyone doing magic all over the place, nor would Trace be any kind of useful considering it only says that magic was used but doesn't say who did it. What are they going to do, arrest every student who was there to pick up books?
Wow, i just finished my hp marathon and now this 🎁👌
I've never read the books, but I've always loved how the Weasleys loved Harry for himself, not his fame or money!
12:23 This scene was filmed but it was cut from the theatrical version.
I always suspected it was when I heard about the vanishing cabinets later especially since it mentioned that one of them came from there and it wasn't working
There is no thinking it is the vanishing cabinet. It absolutely is the vanishing cabinet connected to the cabinet peeves smashed to distract filch. The say as much later in the books. Montage gets stuck in the broken cabinet in hogwarts. He could hear stuff from B&B that is what gave Draco the idea to fix the cabinet at hogwarts.
i can remember a scene from back in the day from the vhs tape i had that they did show draco and lucius in borg and burg in the chamber of secrets
That’s the twin vanishing cabinet to the one Fred and George sticks Montegue in it breaks while he’s in there and when they get him back the dump the broken cabinet in the room of banished items from the room of requirement
They literally made Harry say lumos in 3rd movie in his house, and then talking to minister about underage magic. Where is the logic.
But atleast these 2 instances can be backed up as on train and the diagon alley, its only wizards and witches(and parents of muggleborn), so its safe. Also Ministry can only trace the place and not the person due to which Harry got his first warning. And Fred and George say they do magic constantly in Burrow cause no one can trace.
I'm schizophrenic, I had this book read to me by an ex gf, it was after the movies had come out so I had material to drawn on I guess, but I totally schized the scenes from the book that were missing Back into my memory of the movie. I vividly recall the fight scene between Weasley and Malfoy as it broke out into the street as though id seen in the film,
*I e of the best parts (yes there are good parts) of being Schizophrenic is reading... My experience when I read is beautiful. Reading when ur on the edge like that can also help bring u back safely
The fact harry saw the second book but didn't address it is wild.😂
OK, I feel the need to point this out: Hermione's offence in the movie version was not her _second_ time, because her fixing Harry's eyeglasses in _Harry Potter and the Philosopher's Stone_ was not against the wizarding laws. This is because of two reasons:
1. They were at the Hogwarts Express, where other children have also performed magic, even in the books.
2. Performing magic outside Howarts is forbidden for underage _pupils,_ not other underage children - and Hermione was not yet a pupil of Hogwarts at that point.
Fixing Harry's eyeglasses with magic again in the second movie is definitely a violation against the law, though. But it was her first, not the second time.
It is the wanishing cabinet Draco uses in book 6.
It's slept on that Mr and Mrs. (we're focusing on mr.) Weasley Raised a whole line up of Gangsters. In their own ways each of the Weasley children excelled at whatever they applied themselves to. That and they ALL stood on business, and I bet cash money that came from their Dad standing on his morals about "what sullies the name of wizard." and so on. That and when he instinctively ask "How'd it go?" Vs scolding the boys for taking the car. Mr. Weasley is that mf simply trying to be a calm and happy family man.
They truly should of had all the movies be 3 or 4 parts
I had the pleasure of reading the first seven books to my Niece and Nephews before seeing any of the movies.
Also, why didn’t we get more of the dark witches and wizards? The non death eaters, like that witch in the alley.
i thought i was imagining Draco showing up in the store, but i guess i was thinking about the book
I always assumed it was the same cabinet
I think if a (HARRY POTTER) show got made someday; The moment when Arthur Weasley, fights against Lucius Malfoy, it should be shown in the show.
Is it safe to say that Percey Weasleys sorting could have been a hatstall (between Slytherin and Gryffindor).
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Buying seven books for a single subject rather than one means you bought six extra not seven extra
IF you want to make the argument for the kids using magic, we know that the ministry can't tell exactly who cast the spell, only the location where the spell was cast. So, using magic in Diagon Alley or the school train would make it impossible for the Ministry to know who is casting magic. Making enforcement impossible.
its such a big omission too, arthur weasley seems like a goofy pencil pusher but is in the order of the phoenix and has likely killed a few people and fought for his life
cutting Hermiones Parents out was such a missed opportunity i feel
Lucius doesn’t work at the Ministry of Magic. He’s so rich he doesn’t have to work. It always bugged me that they added him telling Arthur “I’ll see you at work.” Because Malfoy doesn’t have a job.
Definitely a generational rivalry too
I hate how the movies showed the Wesley’s cowering when they were actually always ready to defend themselves in the books.
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Do you expect upward 80% Each Book be faithful adapted for TVShow?
The movies don’t actually make sense as stand alone stories, the editors got a bit carried away. If you don’t have some extra knowledge about what was cut or changed you stand no chance against the plot holes, and there are enough already. I understand that the movies will be truncated and adapted, but they still need to have a coherent plot, and they just didn’t. It’s a source of great frustration for me.
Yes, it's the same cabinet.
Arthur is one of my favorite characters. I would have loved watching him take Malfoy’s lunch money….
honestly I got disappointed when he didn't get punched
I completely agree
Poor Errol, lol!
Hermione's parents changed
It's not hidden if people read the actual story - you know ..the books. 😂😂
You know what gets me the weasley's take Harry and you know as their own why didn't Harry use his money which he had crap tons of to help the weasleys you know he could have helped him with their schooling and the books and stuff like that you know you'd think he'd at least do that you know to show at least he's gracious for what they do for him but you never see that you just see Harry's just a spoiled rotten little Bratz
I’d put my money on Arthur knowing how to throw hands and have enchant fists of fury lol😅😂
i dunno. why your baseline is movies? books are much more known.
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