it's difficult to watch how dumb the script writers made ron weasley for the harry potter movies. in the books he wasn't written by j.k. as pathetic but rather a very talented, witty, and skilled wizard.
A weird trope in adaptations, that characters need to exhibit archetypes so the audience understands what 'type' is character they are. Further, they can't have two characters overlapping the same 'types', because then the audience gets bored with too much of that 'type'. I don't agree with the premise, but we can't deny the universal commonality.
another interesting thing about the conversation with Justin is that it’s mentioned he was set to go to Eton, probably one of the most exclusive and elite boarding schools in the world. Implying he comes from a wealthy, connected, or aristocratic family.
It should also be mentioned the reason professor Sprout had bandages on her arms is because Lockhart was trying to teach her (the teacher who knows about plants) how to properly tend to a Whomping Willow (and by right way I mean obviously wrong way)
Sir Kenneth Branagh has been my favorite actor since I first saw him in Henry V in 9th grade English class. He did such a great job as Lockhart. He was so over the top and perfectly portrayed Lockhart as the pompous, incompetent wizard that he is. I've always wished he would have been as much in the movie as the character was in the book.
The moment when Neville passes out feels so wrong to me. Herbology is Neville's best subject, so even if he didn't show his talent in that scene, he wouldn't fail like that either. And how are they talking with earmuffs on? Why was professor Sprout so indifferent about her student that would suffer from a serious trauma had he actually hear mandrake scream? Maybe they wanted to build up "it's always me" line, but this lesson also ended up to be the only one shown in the movies. Obviously the Deathly Hallows book wasn't written yet, so nobody knew that Neville was going to become herbology professor, but still...
10:25 - It might be worth mentioning that "Spellotape" is a take-off on "Sellotape", a British brand of what Americans call "Scotch tape". I assume this was dropped from the movie because Americans wouldn't get the reference. There are a few other puns, jokes, etc. in the books that only make sense if you're British, or at least well versed in British culture. A lot of the British slang has been "cleaned up" as well. American's may understand enough "British" to watch a James Bond or Harry Potter movie, but when they start throwing around rhyming slang and "nowt"s, I think most Americans are mystified.
My only hope for the TV show is that they set it between 1990 and 1997, and they have the actors match the character descriptions, like Harry's always messy hair. It's always bothered me that all of Harry's clothes are supposed to be Dudley's hand-me-downs that don't fit him well, and his supposed to have saggy, unruly hair, but as the films went on Harry's always dressed fashionably while rocking a neat haircut. The movies were also set roughly around the years they came out.
Might as well call it Harry Pottsr and Gilderoy Lockheart…now I’m imagining the book cover with the title crossed out and written over. I KNEW the pop quiz would be about him lul
I like how Gilderoy is a prime example of how fame corrupts people. And I still belive that Dumbledore, being an excentric old man, specificall invited Gilderoy to teach Harry how to not cling to fame and maybe even reveal to everyone that GIlderoy is a hoax. I mean, Dumbledore is famous and powerfull for a reason, he delved deep into Dark Arts himself along with Grindelwald, so I bet that Dumbledore decided to kill two rabbits with one stone. Though the timing for that was quite bad. Hiring a hoax expert in Dark Arts and then Chamber of Secrets stuff coming out was a very unlucky thing to happen.
Gosh hearing about how much Gilderoy speaks about fame and everything makes it double hilarious when you learn that he's acutally just full of it and making it up 😂😂
Did you ever notice that most important people put their awards in order of importance? Lockhart considers his most important award Witch Weekly's Most Charming Smile Award (5 TIMES!) Priorities, people!
I missed the gnomes. I really wanted to see that. I can see why some of these were cut to make it shorter, before they decided to make them longer anyways.
I blame you for me laughing at church today. There’s a line in the song we sang that says, “throw open the door. Let’s Jesus come into your heart.” And all I could see was the scene when Aragorn opens the double doors to, I think Theoden’s “castle”.
Next changes are part 1 dueling club part 2 balisisk voice part 3 death day party part 4 filtch’s cat part 5 Ron’s spell him burping slugs part 6 twins coming at malfoy part 7 quidditch game part 8 gilderoy being a hero part 9 harry potter going to the bathroom
I'm enjoying this series!! I was a little late in seeing the movies, as it was right after Alan Rickman's passing that my son (who is 3 months younger than Daniel Radcliffe) suggested a marathon of Alan's movies, including the last 3 HP movies. It was after that when I became completely enamored with the series. I borrowed my son's books, and finished the series in about 2 and a half months later...right time with everyone online doing their memorials to the Battle of Hogwarts. The books helped me fill in the gaps that the movies left out, and I could even hear the actors saying their lines in my head...whether they said it in the movie or not. Thanks again for doing this series. This might be thought of as blasphemous by some, but I think of this series as almost biblical...but this series makes more sense, and only had one writer, not a group of people voting on which chapters should be included or excluded to fit their narrative.
It should be noted that in every class the Slytherins' are always showed to be there with the Gryffindor in the movies. But in the books they are not. Defense Against the Dark Arts i just has a single house, slytherins are there. And It's just Hufflepuffs paired with Gryffindor for herbology. In the books these classes are Doubles....like double herbology, double potions, and double care of magical creatures. I don't think defense against the dark arts, transfiguration, divination, or charms are ever doubled.
Curious why you don't use the extended editions of the HP movies when you use them for your LOTR series. A lot of the stuff I see you mentioning that was cut from the movies is actually in the extended editions. They are typically the versions that are played on TV.
After he's done with a book/movie he goes over the changes the extended editions add in an additional video. For his coverage of the Lord of the Rings books/movies he is using the extended cut, just because that's what the majority of fans have actually watched, and they are publicly available, and until relatively recently the extended editions of the Harry Potter movies could only be seen during special events like Christmas marathons, so many fans haven't even seen the extended editions. For this reason he separated the extended edition into it's own video.
@@DreadKyllerIf you got the DVD or the Blu-ray then you would know that these versions are available as well and have been for many years, deleted scenes, extended scenes, games, special features, commentary ECT
eat slugs was never a spell, it was simply an insult used an entire chapter before the slug spell. whatever incantation Ron actually used is never revealed.
He never spoke an incantation but just pointed his wand at Malfoy. Obviously he was thinking of the insult he had said previously, because he ended up barfing slugs when it backfired on himself. I think it’s related. 👀
Yep! We’re going scene by scene, chapter by chapter through ALL the movies. So I’m excited to get to SPEW 👀 it’ll be quite the episode once we get there.
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it's difficult to watch how dumb the script writers made ron weasley for the harry potter movies. in the books he wasn't written by j.k. as pathetic but rather a very talented, witty, and skilled wizard.
A weird trope in adaptations, that characters need to exhibit archetypes so the audience understands what 'type' is character they are.
Further, they can't have two characters overlapping the same 'types', because then the audience gets bored with too much of that 'type'.
I don't agree with the premise, but we can't deny the universal commonality.
There is also the thing that the director really loved Hermione and didn’t really like Ron, so everything became what it is.
@@dieguitoskullito Not director, it was the screenwriter Steve Kloves
another interesting thing about the conversation with Justin is that it’s mentioned he was set to go to Eton, probably one of the most exclusive and elite boarding schools in the world. Implying he comes from a wealthy, connected, or aristocratic family.
It should also be mentioned the reason professor Sprout had bandages on her arms is because Lockhart was trying to teach her (the teacher who knows about plants) how to properly tend to a Whomping Willow (and by right way I mean obviously wrong way)
Sir Kenneth Branagh has been my favorite actor since I first saw him in Henry V in 9th grade English class. He did such a great job as Lockhart. He was so over the top and perfectly portrayed Lockhart as the pompous, incompetent wizard that he is. I've always wished he would have been as much in the movie as the character was in the book.
He probably had an absolute blast going ridiculously over the top
The moment when Neville passes out feels so wrong to me. Herbology is Neville's best subject, so even if he didn't show his talent in that scene, he wouldn't fail like that either. And how are they talking with earmuffs on? Why was professor Sprout so indifferent about her student that would suffer from a serious trauma had he actually hear mandrake scream?
Maybe they wanted to build up "it's always me" line, but this lesson also ended up to be the only one shown in the movies. Obviously the Deathly Hallows book wasn't written yet, so nobody knew that Neville was going to become herbology professor, but still...
10:25 - It might be worth mentioning that "Spellotape" is a take-off on "Sellotape", a British brand of what Americans call "Scotch tape". I assume this was dropped from the movie because Americans wouldn't get the reference. There are a few other puns, jokes, etc. in the books that only make sense if you're British, or at least well versed in British culture. A lot of the British slang has been "cleaned up" as well. American's may understand enough "British" to watch a James Bond or Harry Potter movie, but when they start throwing around rhyming slang and "nowt"s, I think most Americans are mystified.
That's what I came to mention as well (Sellotape/Cellotape).
My only hope for the TV show is that they set it between 1990 and 1997, and they have the actors match the character descriptions, like Harry's always messy hair. It's always bothered me that all of Harry's clothes are supposed to be Dudley's hand-me-downs that don't fit him well, and his supposed to have saggy, unruly hair, but as the films went on Harry's always dressed fashionably while rocking a neat haircut. The movies were also set roughly around the years they came out.
Might as well call it Harry Pottsr and Gilderoy Lockheart…now I’m imagining the book cover with the title crossed out and written over.
I KNEW the pop quiz would be about him lul
I like how Gilderoy is a prime example of how fame corrupts people. And I still belive that Dumbledore, being an excentric old man, specificall invited Gilderoy to teach Harry how to not cling to fame and maybe even reveal to everyone that GIlderoy is a hoax. I mean, Dumbledore is famous and powerfull for a reason, he delved deep into Dark Arts himself along with Grindelwald, so I bet that Dumbledore decided to kill two rabbits with one stone. Though the timing for that was quite bad. Hiring a hoax expert in Dark Arts and then Chamber of Secrets stuff coming out was a very unlucky thing to happen.
Gosh hearing about how much Gilderoy speaks about fame and everything makes it double hilarious when you learn that he's acutally just full of it and making it up 😂😂
Did you ever notice that most important people put their awards in order of importance? Lockhart considers his most important award Witch Weekly's Most Charming Smile Award (5 TIMES!) Priorities, people!
I love the timing of the look on Ron's face in the video when Gilroy is trying to teach Harry about not taking pictures so publicly
they did film the pop quiz, it was part of the deleted scenes released and is added back in the extended version
Sellotape? It's what Americans call Scotch Tape.
I missed the gnomes. I really wanted to see that. I can see why some of these were cut to make it shorter, before they decided to make them longer anyways.
1:51 We all know how the films feel about asking things "calmly"
Gilderoy lockhart is not a second book special, he reapears in tje order of the phönix when arthur weasly is visited in st. Mungos hospital
I blame you for me laughing at church today. There’s a line in the song we sang that says, “throw open the door. Let’s Jesus come into your heart.” And all I could see was the scene when Aragorn opens the double doors to, I think Theoden’s “castle”.
Next changes are part 1 dueling club part 2 balisisk voice part 3 death day party part 4 filtch’s cat part 5 Ron’s spell him burping slugs part 6 twins coming at malfoy part 7 quidditch game part 8 gilderoy being a hero part 9 harry potter going to the bathroom
I'm enjoying this series!! I was a little late in seeing the movies, as it was right after Alan Rickman's passing that my son (who is 3 months younger than Daniel Radcliffe) suggested a marathon of Alan's movies, including the last 3 HP movies. It was after that when I became completely enamored with the series. I borrowed my son's books, and finished the series in about 2 and a half months later...right time with everyone online doing their memorials to the Battle of Hogwarts. The books helped me fill in the gaps that the movies left out, and I could even hear the actors saying their lines in my head...whether they said it in the movie or not. Thanks again for doing this series. This might be thought of as blasphemous by some, but I think of this series as almost biblical...but this series makes more sense, and only had one writer, not a group of people voting on which chapters should be included or excluded to fit their narrative.
Changes are is dueling club is near Herimone is putting a girl in a knot and Ron is in bad call by Seamas Finngian and also Harry is with Draco
So enjoyable
It should be noted that in every class the Slytherins' are always showed to be there with the Gryffindor in the movies. But in the books they are not. Defense Against the Dark Arts i just has a single house, slytherins are there. And It's just Hufflepuffs paired with Gryffindor for herbology. In the books these classes are Doubles....like double herbology, double potions, and double care of magical creatures. I don't think defense against the dark arts, transfiguration, divination, or charms are ever doubled.
Ready for more changes
Curious why you don't use the extended editions of the HP movies when you use them for your LOTR series. A lot of the stuff I see you mentioning that was cut from the movies is actually in the extended editions. They are typically the versions that are played on TV.
After he's done with a book/movie he goes over the changes the extended editions add in an additional video. For his coverage of the Lord of the Rings books/movies he is using the extended cut, just because that's what the majority of fans have actually watched, and they are publicly available, and until relatively recently the extended editions of the Harry Potter movies could only be seen during special events like Christmas marathons, so many fans haven't even seen the extended editions. For this reason he separated the extended edition into it's own video.
@@DreadKyllerIf you got the DVD or the Blu-ray then you would know that these versions are available as well and have been for many years,
deleted scenes, extended scenes, games, special features, commentary ECT
eat slugs was never a spell, it was simply an insult used an entire chapter before the slug spell. whatever incantation Ron actually used is never revealed.
He never spoke an incantation but just pointed his wand at Malfoy. Obviously he was thinking of the insult he had said previously, because he ended up barfing slugs when it backfired on himself. I think it’s related. 👀
Hopefully it will be expanded on in the show.
I believe the difference between Hermione and Ron in the books is book smart versus street smart so to speak
Can you do a video on the cutting of spew and the house elves from the films please I think it would make for a good video
Yep! We’re going scene by scene, chapter by chapter through ALL the movies. So I’m excited to get to SPEW 👀 it’ll be quite the episode once we get there.
@ I look forward to to watching, I hope the hbo show is good when it comes out
Lots of chopping and changing in this movie compared to the last one, or so it feels
But still the first 2 are a lot to book. From 3rd, it gets worse
As much as I like Kenneth Branagh he wasn’t the best choice. We really did see enough of him. The books make the characters real. Just read.