Talib Kweli & Jon Stewart On Activism, 'The Daily Show,' Israel & Palestine | People's Party Full
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- Опубліковано 7 лют 2025
- In this episode of "People's Party With Talib Kweli," Kweli sits down with comedian, political commentator, actor, director, and television host :
JON STEWART
Here's what we got into:
• Jon and Talib becoming friends at Dave Chappelle's Yellow Springs festival.
• Coming up in New Jersey, bussing at Trenton's famed City Gardens nightclub.
• The similarities found in the punk and hip hop music of the 80's and 90's.
• His stint as the last performer for many nights at New York's, Comedy Cellar.
• The notable stars who made their names known on 'The Daily Show.'
• How trust should be earned while people are choosing their news.
• Why he chose to leave the Daily show and pass the torch to Trevor Noah.
• Trevor Noah turning down early invitations to join Jon on The Daily Show.
• What Jon learned from Leslie Jones' memorable time as guest-host.
• The path of Jon's personal journey to becoming involved in activism.
• Jon's approach to holding his interviewees accountable for their words.
• His take on the government's stalling of the PACT Act for US veterans.
• The differences of 'The Daily Show' and the new, 'The Problem.'
• Jon's take on the separation of malevolence and ignorance in society.
• His unflinching approach in interviews with people like Tucker Carlson.
• Reflecting on if his time at the Daily Show helped the country progress.
• The move of having an all-white panel discussing systematic racism.
• Why so many resist the concept of systematic racism in America.
• Jon's powering through an audience who weren't feeling his jokes
• How globalization sometimes resembles modern-day colonialism.
• Facing backlash while advocating for the Palestinian people.
• The 2014 film, 'Rosewater' that Jon wrote, directed and produced.
• Jon and his wife's farm sanctuary for abused and neglected animals.
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TIME STAMPS:
3:19 -- A golden retriever named Kweli gets a shoutout at the top of the show. Jon and Talib then go on to recount their first time getting to know each other during Dave Chappelle's Yellow Springs festival. They also discuss Jon's growing up in New Jersey, his bussing tables at Trenton's famed City Gardens nightclub where he felt like he found his people, and get into the similarities found in the punk and hip hop music of the 80's and 90's.
9:39 -- Jon is asked about his stint as the last performer for many nights at New York's iconic, Comedy Cellar venue and he reflects on why he considers those to be some of the best years of his life. They go on to discuss 'The Daily Show,' and the long run of amazing personalities that made their names known on the program. They also get into Jon's take on how trust should be earned when it comes to how people choose their sources of news and why showing people the process is so important.
15:31 -- Jon speaks on how and why he made the decision to leave The Daily Show and pass the torch to Trevor Noah, who became his successor as the host. They explore what it was about Trevor that got Jon's attention, his not realizing how big Trevor was overseas, and how he declined early invitations to join Jon on the show. They also talk about Leslie Jones' memorable time as the guest-host and how she reminded Jon about the importance of joy.
20:28 -- Jon is asked about one of the most pivotal moments of The Daily Show, with their first airing following the events of September 11th. Talib brings up their shared connection to the FealGood Foundation, an organization pressing elected officials to provide financial assistance to the first responders of 9/11. They also discuss Jon's personal journey to becoming involved in activism, why comedians are reluctant activists by nature, and Jon's approach to holding his interviewees accountable.
25:11 -- Jon gives his take on the government's stalling of the 2022 PACT Act, which expanded the health care and benefits for Veterans exposed to burn pits and other toxic substances. They go on to discuss Jon's transition of leaving The Daily Show in 2015, to his landing on 'The Problem with Jon Stewart' in 2021, and also get into learning how to humble oneself on failings in life, as well as Jon's take on the separation of malevolence and ignorance in society, with one of them being a curable condition.
31:26 -- Talib brings up Jon's unflinching approach during interviews when facing those on opposing sides of the spectrum such as a Trucker Carlson and Bill O'Reilly. He asks Jon to expand on statements he has made about reflecting on if his time at the Daily Show added to the noise or helped the country progress. They also get into the controversial move of having an all-white panel discussing systematic racism, as well as how America has always criminalized struggle.
38:41 -- Jon talks about his views on why people like Andrew Sullivan and many others have such a difficult time grasping the facts of systematic racism existing in America. They discuss how acceptance of these hard truths will have to be the beginning of any treatment, why so much of it boils down to the guarding of resources, and how the argument should be made to these deniers. They also explore Jon's powering through a Yellow Springs audience who weren't feeling his jokes.
45:24 -- Jon gives his take on globalization, how it can be traced back to the earliest days of the word's colonialism beginning with slave labor, and gives examples of today with the war in Afghanistan, and China's role in Africa, building roads for Kobalt. They also discuss how Jon navigates being Jewish and speaking out against anti-semitism, while at the same time advocating on behalf of Palestinians who have suffered at the hands of the Israeli government.
52:32 -- The 2014 film, 'Rosewater' that Jon wrote, directed and produced is explored as they get into how the people involved made the movie a true work of art, what it was like shooting the picture in Jordan during the month of Ramadan, and Jon is then asked what he gets out of making movies that was missing from prior endeavours. Jon is also asked about his and his wife's farm sanctuary for abused and neglected animals, and his decision 7 years ago to become a vegetarian.
I wish you asked Jon Stewart why he gave a softball interview to the war criminals Condoleeza Rice and Hilary Clinton instead of exposing their hypocrisy on the atrocities they have committed in lraq and Libya and many other countries in the global south.
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Thank you!!
Bless up 🤜🏾🤛🏾
trevor noah was horrible. not one coverage on palestine and never covered the entire narrative of what US actually is which is a global war mongering hegemonic empire hellbent on maintaining their global rule.
This man is responsible for so many young people of my generation giving a damn about politics. He’s always led with empathy and morals, and that’s untouchable by all these charlatans.
Absolutely 100%
The guy was on air 20 years ago, doubt anyone who follows him is young
So the 90’s?? This was only awkward
waiting for jon stewart to come up with an argument about how homelessness, crime, and drug abuse being widespread in democrat cities is just coincidence
@@666slateran666 Jon Stewart was on the air 8 years ago… he hosted the daily show from 1999-2015. So more like anyone that grew up in the 2000s -2010s would know him. Trevor Noah began hosting the daily show after Jon in 2015-2022.
Man, I wish Jon Stewart knew just how influential he was in my life for two decades. Thanks for teaching me how to think, Jon. You're just getting better and better.
DOPENESSSSSS!!!!! Glad he helped and influenced you.
You look absolutely gorgeous by the way
Same
lol. shoulda seen his career before daily show. he did goofy mtv shows. never could imagine he'd become a political talk show host.
Did he?? Listen to Kwame Ture. Way better. Jon is turning a blind eye, for family, european family, he, and all Jews are Not Afro Asiatic. Denying reality, flaws your prospective. I do like some things he says, but listen to Stokely Carmichael.
No wonder US is so fked up. People think Jon Stewart is the moral authority.
After the Hamas attacks and fury from both sides, it's always a breath of fresh air to recalibrate myself with Jon's thoughts and focus on what's right.
Even if this interview happened before the incedent, it's uncanny how clear Jon Stewart sees through the entire question and how we should be tackling it.
John Stewart is a national treasure.
Excellent interview
Been saying this for sooooooo long!
Loving how Kweli not only brings on some of the most influential figures in hip hop but in comedy as well. Always learn something from the best artists in the world on People's Party.
I love them talking about the similarities of the attitude of punk and hip hop in the early days.
Jon Stewart is an exceptional comedian & human being. Political commentary & views always nuanced, ethical, greatly empathetic & above all, factual. 👌
He’s a tool
He is Afro Asiatic? Are jews Afro Asiatic? If a person is delusional about reality, how factual are they? From one Mohammed to another. When the prophet Abraham reproduced with Haggar, she was known as a Kemetite. Not Egyptian. Time to step up your thinking brother.
100%
Talib Kweli deserves his interviewing flowers. Seriously the way he does them is amazing.
This man is a national treasure. Great podcast as usual Talib!
Transcend the ideologue.
Love to the Peoples Party and Uproxx team! Jon Stewart has been a class act my entire life. love this interview man. Never stop rocking 💪🏾
Excellent interview. Real talk. Just listened to it driving down the turnpike. Nothing but respect to you guys. Thank you for inspiring, caring, and shining the light on relevant issues.
Which turnpike..yes it was a great listen
New Jersey Turnpike. I’m on it all the time. I’ve been hearing great interviews of all kinds on various topics. You Tube kicks ass. I have a job that allows me to jam out and listen to music, interviews, sports, and talk while I’m at work. So I listen, learn, and focus. People like John and Talib are people I look up to. Peace
So smart!!! TK + JS = GOLD
I admire these two brilliant cultural icons and their civic & humanitarian leadership so much!!! 🙏💐❤️😍
Great interview guys. Jon gets a lot of airtime but we rarely get a chance to hear him genuinely share himself. He's too busy speaking truth to power.
Bump
What an intelligent and enjoyable conversation. I only know Talib from BlackStar, but now thoroughly appreciate his conversation skills. What a pleasure to hear him lay so much respect on Jon Stewart. I have to say, Stewart comes across as surprisingly hip and comfortable, and Talib as thoughtful and considerate. So refreshing to just be invited to listen to two people talk, two people having an enjoyable and earnest conversation. I don't know why this video came up in my feed, but I am so thankful that it did. Thank you for this.
Agreed, but come on, ya know he got a lot more than tough rhymes from hearing him on blackstar
@@joshuagharis9017 Of course! But being a great writer, thinker and artist does not necessarily mean that that person is a great interviewer or conversationalist, or plays well with others... 😉
Before watching this interview, I'd never heard of Talib Kweli before... Now, I want to know everything about him!
Generally, anything Jon Stewart I’m all for, but add Talib Kweli to the mix and even better. Such an insightful conversation between these two. Definitely no dull moments.
Never heard of this show but I will after this. The fantastic interview. Fantastic that you allow Jon Stewart to speak and not interrupting endings expands into areas that may not be comfortable to talk about. Usually hosts will shut things down for fear of offending people. Great show. Great host. Great guest
Love the nuanced and balanced conversation they have about Israel-Palestine. As a Jew living in Germany I get why they cancelled Talib's shows, the BDS organisation while having a good cause at heart is unfortunately infiltrated by many antisemites who hitchhike on its anti-Israel stances. But I also get why Talib supports it as a way of showing support to Palestinians and I don't hold it against him. This issue is so complex and it's sometimes really hard to know what the right thing is to do or say, but we won't get anywhere if we can't have the conversation without people on either side going berserk.
John is a bonafide hero of mine and one of the most beautiful people on earth. He simply checks all of the boxes, all of them.
This was an amazing experience, and an awesome interview. Your questions we're important well thought out and necessary. Thank u sir. The discussions between the 2 of you brought me such a joy. People like u sir, and Jon give such a positive energy the world desperately needs now more then ever.
So brilliant. Kweli, you are a wonder and mentor to me though we've never met. Your ability to adapt to changing environments, and dedication to the craft of art has made you a legend in my mind! Thanks for bringing on such great interviews and putting out such great art/music. I think you need Andree 3000 on the show and see how the conversation goes.
One of the best interviews I have listened to in a while....but then again, it is Jon Stewart.
What a great conversation, I can listen to these two go at it all day
Need more of these conversations.... this is what the mainstream media needs. Real conversations with no propaganda!!
Never going to happen with their advertising model. They think we the people are too stupid and long form conversation isn't as profitable, plus its harder to drive biased narratives which they ALL partake in.
@@ozmartian2I would love to see Smart People like these 2 on one of the Sunday Shows - make “Cheat the Press, Fake the Nation, This is Weak”, Up their game ❤
@@ozmartian2t’s soo annoying how the Main Stream News Shows just Always have to “hurry up” got to get to those Sacred Commercials
Wow, so much food for thought here!
Thank you for this interview! Thank you Talib and Jon, as well as the producers/team involved that made this happen!
Oh my God, John Stewart is such a gold, and the world is so lucky to have such a person who got the wisdom, heart and ability to communicate the way only he can ❤️
Wow we got some new stuff from Jon Stewart here, thanks for the enlightenment on the Israel/Jewish etc situation: now I finally know it’s a confusing conundrum lol. Awesome ‘sode, Talib, this was my first finding the pod
Jon is probably the most well spoken person on earth about this subject, along with maybe Bernie Sanders and Gabor Mate
I didn't want this to end! What a wonderful conversation with two very delicate souls. Thank you :)
What a great conversation👍🏽👏🏾✌🏾🤘🏾❣️
I've watched Jon for decades, and Kweli is brand new to me. They were trading licks with equal intelligence and passion and I am so hungry for that❣️ Very grateful for this experience, and I'll be tuning in for more🤞🏽🙏🏽😘
Thank you for this awesome guest and podcast Talib! Love from MD
City Gardens will forever be one of my favourite places. Growing up going there was a real gift!
I always sounded smarter than I am because of John Stewart. I truly appreciate his work
20:18 "Presidency should always age the president, not the people"
Two legends. This was amazing.
I'm a big fan of both of you and I appreciate the healthy discussions around difficult topics. To the point around resource guarding, I think there is an absence of the ability for long term thinking when everything is a pursuit of instant gain. Please keep up the conversation, these talks are a salve to a frustrating state of affairs that is the American condition.
This right here is deeper than the blackest void of the sea. Respect 💯 🙏🏾
Man, I love both of these guys so much! Both super smart and empathetic and with a genuine desire to improve things. This was such a great conversation. Really enjoyed it!
Great interview ❤
Thank you Talib, Thank you for this interview and I solute you for always doing your homework. Jon is a good man.
My heroes Talib and Jon as a 59 year old I learn everyday .Thank you.
Excellent episode and interview. Salute kweli for his interview and conversation skills. Love seeing him excel and succeed at something else he loves, and counties to spread knowledge, love and positivity
He’s so right. Punk shows…the energy is infectious and energizing. I felt it in my youth, too.
One of my favorite People's Party episodes ever.
If John Stewart ran for President, I can’t help but think my reaction would be emotional, because for the first time I’d actually have hope for the future of our nation.
I felt that way once. When Trump announced. Then the liberal hate and division machine went into overdrive and destroyed my happiness.
@@rayerickson7614 it wasn't things like his charity being dissolved for being a slush fund, or Trump University being disbanded for being fraudulent, or any number of other grifts that were uncovered?
👏👏👏👏this whole conversation. THANK YOU. I also came for Jon and loved it so much I subscribed.
Always loved Jon Stewart even a little before the Daily Show, I always loved him. Glad he's still kicking ass and taking names
I'll never forget when Jon said, "They never knew a war they didn't love, never known a veteran they didn't love to screw over."
Awesome interview, Talib ! Jon Stewart is a TREASURE and a HERO for all of the help he gives to our troops ! ☀☀☀
So hyped to see Jon Stewart with Talib. Much love to everyone who put this together!
Jon Stewart has passion, courage, strength, character, intelligence, compassion, and integrity. He is one in a million! Couldn't imagine a better President.
Masterclass in.. life right here. Love you Jon
First time I’ve heard Talib, very impressed, great conversation/s Sure beats the Sunday Shows- “Cheat the Press, Fake the Nation, This is Weak”
damn good interview, thank you all.
I came here for the Stewart interview. One of the best interviews I've ever seen. I didn't know of your show until tonight. You have a wonderful style. I've subscribed and can't wait to explore your other interviews!
Absolutely love talib kweli interviewing style
Amazing interview of an amazing man... Talib did his homework too, damn!!
Merci Talib pour cette entrevue avec John.
This is great, thanks for putting this out there.
This was FANTASTIC! Speaking as a white jewish genxer - I love BOTH you guys. And this was a meeting of the minds in the best possible way. Nicely done. Keep up the important conversations.
Best Jon Stewart interview I’ve seen in a while
Another Great Episode. 👏👏👏
A comedian I watched on television as a kid would develop into someone who would broaden my world views. Who knew 😊 Great episode!
Excellent interview, great interviewer, great interviewee. A lot of wisdom on display here.
What an amazing insightful dialogue between two beautiful minds!
Holy crap, the fact that Jon Stewart was a bartender at City Gardens is an absolutely legendary piece of trivia.
right????
brilliant interview! Very interesting conversation. Thank you!
Great interviewer, great interviewee. I enjoyed this immensely.
I love Jon and Talib, how blessed I feel to see you together sharing light and knowledge and authenticity, I’m a black Jew,, y’all should do a show on that ❤️
Always used the example of drawing parralells to punk and how it grew into my love of rap due to those underlying currents, having Jon use that as an example really validated that perception.
Would have loved to meet John in Jordan which is where I spend a lot of time. Always looked up to him, hope he had a blessed experience here and comes back sometime. Same to you Kweli.
Fucking love this episode, thank you so much for this episode Talib. Jon Stewart is an amazing person as always.
The bond between Hip-Hop and Punk, hearing you guys talk about it (albeit briefer than I had hoped for), but absolute on point with what I love about it. Jon was on the money with how you may not have the talent of the wondrous musicians but if you had that spirit and vigor, you could tackle it and do it.
Hearing y'all talk about Mamoun's is a blast from the past! When my dad came to America (from Iran) it was his go-to spot for a cheap filling meal, flash forward to my first ever trip to NYC with my school and my teacher took us to it and it was so amazing that I had to tell my dad about it and he was like, "yeah, used to eat it all the time when I lived there" and it blew my mind just like it did hearing Talib & Jon talk it up; y'all they ain't kidding with how good it is and so cost effective!
When Jon described "chasing the dragon" of collaboration is something I haven't fully able to conceptualize until now; it really is an amazing thing to do with someone or a group you love being creative with, and once it's gone it's so hard to rekindle that fire.
Beautifully poignant in how activism is; how Jon went from the guy talking the talk but also walking the walk and understanding the path people have to take "because some are too sick to make it"
Jon greatly influenced me to get into journalism in high school; and him talking about the interview style of having to corner people and "make sure they don't have an out" is an interesting (and important) philosophy I need to pick up, especially in these high times when there's people out there who would squirm away when confronted with misdeeds.
Wow, blown away by his remark on ignorance/maleficence is magnificent. Maleficent absolutely doesn't sleep, so it really is a tiring effort to go against but so spot on that we need to combat it as much as we can and how much cynicism just fuels it further. Fuck Tucker Carlson.
Crazy to understand/unpack the systematic-ness of society and how while we are members of a society built on blood and death, it is how we participate in it. Love the response that "there's enough (racist) persons" to make these arbitrary Jim Crow laws and that we need to limit and reduce that amount so they cannot have it happen again. And how lazy the argument "we just live in it, so might as well" really is.
Crazy new perspective of Colonialism/Globalism is that it's stripping of resources and pursuit of supply-line, not exclusively for power (like I originally thought).
Love that you guys were able to tackle Palestine and somehow easily unravel such "a complex" issue. And to tack one more thing to your counterargument of being "anti-Israel = anti-Semeticism" if one supports Palestine, is it's also anti-semetic to be anti-Palestine as Palestinians are Semetic people as well.
As an Iranian-American, I have to thank Jon Stewart for everything he's done for the Iranian community outside and inside of Iran; he's done such an amazing job humanizing us as well exposing the hypocritical bullshit on both sides, as well as shining a spotlight with Rosewater. I hope to one day meet him (and Talib).
Thank you so much for the episode. ✌️
I see Jon, I click. That simple. Talib’s a really impressive interviewer too!
Thanks for this talk , we need more people of reason.
Jon Stewart and Stephen Colbert were my idols growing up. They did a better job at reporting the news as a comedy show than the actual news outlets. Stewart and Colbert are national treasures.
Colbert is the biggest sell out - he’s a fraud and an establishment shill
Excellent interview and great conversation. Thanks for this.
I don’t foresee this happening… but I sincerely wish that he would run for President. Great interview.
Now THAT was a hell of an interview! Kudos all around.
Jon through the daily show, you woke a lot of us up. You made me see where I was wrong and whats honorable and millions more I am certain. Your a true American hero, and the black guys seems pretty cool to. Of course my grammer still sucks
Two of my favorite cats….love that y’all put this together.
When folks get called cats, we know it's a sign of true respect 🙏
Thanks for this. Amazing interview.
What a great conversation!!
Probably one of the best podcast host i've seen in a while. Great show!
Jon Stewarts ability to express himself would be a devastating weapon in a presidential run.
Wish Jon would run 4 president... Lived in the Village, and the Blue Note and Folk City was our go to. Thank u. Great show.
Soul enriching. So good.
Please John Stewart, run for President one day. We need smart, thoughtful, charismatic people with good morals to run this country and inspire others like you to make the choice to attempt achieving leadership roles as well. You Sir could be the savior of the country and I truly believe that 🙌 ❤
It says a lot about the sad state of American politics, when the best politician is a comedian.
Yo saw a UA-cam short and knew I had to watch the whole interview, amazing job!!
Incredible interview and convo. Thank you for your work. Cheers
I can watch this alllll day 😊
Amazing interview! Thanks for sharing the wisdom!
Epic podcast episode 👌🏼 🙌🏼
In awe of what a wonderful person Kweli is.
That was fantastic. Thank you both/all.
Well done Mr Kweli! you did your homework and gave the brother his respect
Really quality interview/discussion!
This talk is really great. From the get go. Very respectable atmosphere
Wonderful thought provoking exchange! ❤❤❤
I'm glad Jon is coming back to the daily show!!
Shotout to Kweli for calling me a doofus for stating an opinion that challenged his 😂 Respiration is still one of my favorite tracks ever.
Stewart seems like a cool dude to conversate with. I appreciate his activism to help veterans too.
Edit: spelling