I’m from Korea and I always share your video with my university alpine club members! Very entertaining and informative! Thank you for awesome contents!
@@willscanlon9843 Not really! We have a lot of trad&multi pitch outdoors. Outdoor Trad:Sport ratio would be half and half. But most indoor gyms are bouldering gym.
2:21 looks like wasdale roof on napes needle, there is absolutely gear before the roof, setting out through the roof without placing any of it takes a braver (or dumber?) man than me! 3:00 is flying buttress direct at Stanage You're right, a purple cam can be jammed in literally anywhere on the length of that crack you pointed out and be absolutely bomber, though tbf you are in a fairly strenuous position and the prospect of just doing the mantle and getting to the easy part is quite tantalising.
i love these little bits of info on how to be a better all round climber, proper lead belaying is super important and intimidating to learn or even approach someone about
Guy at 6:15 is such a cool dude in person. He's always there too, at Point Dume, every time I've gone he's there and sets up a few top ropes for people. He usually brings little kid sized climbing harnesses and belays kids up some routes with the parents permission.
LOL remember how how up in arms people got about the thought of adding more bolts to Snake Dike after that woman fell and hurt herself? Imagine what they're gonna do with Josh starts building anchors on top of high ball boulder problems.
Tbh I understand the other point of view too. Damaging rock always sucks and if someone wants safety there are a ton of artificial walls everywhere now!
Man, great video - As a newer climber I feel like there is no limit to the value of fall preparation and all of this is very helpful as I pursue higher levels on lead and as the belayer. Thank you for making such a helpful video!
Tshirt caption: on the front- 'top rope king', on the back- 'see you at the top, not at the bottom', though those could easily be 2 different t shirts. But totally agree. I know loads of trad heads in Ireland who are all about onsights and ground up ascents. I think these people have forgotten that climbing is fun even when you eliminate the chance of dying.
Heard a story from my climbing coach from when he was on his first 14 out in the NRG, almost dropped a clip with a 15+ foot runoff on a tiny crimp when there was a jug right above him. Apparently some other dude had broken his leg dropping the same clip. Reminded me of the first one a lot 😅
The guy who raps down commando style at ~6:15 is a notorious local at a certain spot in Malibu, CA. I've personally run into him a few times and he's usually either doing the spartan rappel or top rope soloing. He tried to hit on my girlfriend, has a reputation of being a bit of a doucher.
7:14 when he’s under a roof or the climber has to make a travers at the first draw he should have set up a belay point from the anchor (donno what’s it called in english, but in german that’s what it’s called when your belay device is fixed to your anchor) so that in case of a fall the force is transmitted to the anchor, and not get pulled out the wall or as you said into the roof if the climb goes over it…
Dude! Thank you for answering my question so thoroughly! That makes perfect sense, that you belayer can let the line run a little bit and I am super aware of how that changes the physics of the impact force. Now excuse me while I go work out an assisted climbing system for sketchy trees.
Can you cover the opening minutes of the movie "Fall" (2022) it's some of THE most hilarious climbing fails? Like it's unbelievable someone can make a climbing scene in a modern movie with so much wrong in it.
6:02 This guy goes by "Old Greg", you can find him at Point Dume in Malibu. Sets up a bunch of ropes on the sea cliffs and spends hours rope soloing and doing these face-first rappel jumps. Seems like he knows what he's doing.
I’ve climbed near him quite a few times there, he’s tried to take people anchors off while they are top roping, he will solo up a route while you’re climbing it and he has gotten in a few fights. I enjoy his stories and smile but I keep him at arms length.
I know a guy who was climbing a tree like you were saying, slipped and swung back to the stem and broke his back. Similarly, I had the same thing happen to myself, was way out on a limb and slipped and wrapped my leg around another large limb. Luckily it wasn't broken but was doubled in size for a couple weeks
You absolutely can protect that horizontal crack in number 2. Its kind of tough and pumpy to do it in one but place and retreat then go again. Ive whipped on a gold cam on that route. Its called flying buttress @ stanage edge in uk.
last clip reminds me of a lot of situations where i see climbers with quite a lot of experience creating bad falling setups for their climbers when belaying in the first 1-3/4 bolts
Nice collection of fails and bails - happy to see you cover some that were making the rounds on Instagram this week. I’m a few weeks away from being a first time trad dad. Just ordered a couple colors of shirt to rep my game. Love it.
Thanks for the warning - I skipped the really nasty one. I like watching your fail videos to learn what not to do, but I really don't like watching serious injuries.
at 11:35 you mention something about dynamic belaying and that there not many devices to do it with, can you make a video about that and explain it please, thanks again for sharing this, i learn a lot with these videos you make. cheers
CLIP NO.3 Flying buttress direct. E1 5b in English money. So about 5.9/10 YDS. (yes the english grades are different from french its weird). But there is room for some gear but it's all flared and likely to pop. Its nicer to get a gear nest where he had gear and just blast through the overhang. Also the clip before looks nasty and I wouldn't be surprised if there wasn't any space.
The third and fourth video, the same thing happened to a guy next to us in Croatia. He didn't wear a helmet. He smashed the back of his head against the rock real bad.
7:50 thats the exact reason you always belay off the anchor and not off your harness in multipitch. If people afforded to go take courses with trained professionals, they would know that ;)
"Surely you could get something in that crack right there" 3:03 Clearly you haven't had the pleasure of climbing on grit? Sometimes there is good cam placement but sometimes there is just nothing. Get yourself on a flight over to UK in early summer and try some peak Grit. Maybe if you ask Tom Randal or Pete Whittaker really nicely they might show you round for a few days as a UA-cam collaboration - I'd love to watch that! Come on over.. you'll get a warm welcome (Sheffield)
Looks like he has been doing it for some time now and had it all set up for the video. Each to their own I say, but I wouldn't take advice from commando Joe...
3:40 good thing the climber was anchored to the ground to avoid flying off into orbit. Seems some people don't get that being tied to the ground below you isn't particularly useful without having something up the rock to attach it to. That's at least two pieces worth of space below the climber, though from the amount of chalk on the rock, and no bolts visible in the radio-quality video, I'd bet there's a nice anchor up top with a walkable trail to set up for top roping. 4:45 yeah, if only someone was above him to set up a top rope rather than just film him coming way too close to a "never gonna climb again" injury.
So I enjoy backpacking and everything outdoors.. my girlfriend wants to rock climb with no experience.. she over estimates her abilities on hikes. What is the safest way to get into the hobby?
09:59 Standing closer to the wall as the belayer would have resulted in a softer catch due to reduced rope friction. Disadvantage may be the reduced visual connection to the climber. Some possible trade offs to think about here
At nine minutes, the belayer takes ALL the slack out of the rope, even before the fall. It looks like the belayer literally pulled the climber off the wall, and gave the climber the hardest catch possible. I understand there was that ledge there that was a bit of a worry, but I still think they should have tried for a softer catch and it really looks like they pulled the climber off the wall.
Broken ankle could have been avoided by a better belay. Taking tight to avoid the ledge, but then stepping into the catch to soften the wall impact. Hard to tell how far off the ground he was, as it seems like he was low, but if he was a few bolts up, just a softer catch that gets him past the ledge would be best.
3rd one was Flying Buttress Direct at Stanage Edge in the English peak District. It does take gear in that crack but it's been the scene of more than a few broken ankles due to the slab below the overhang.
What is that thing called that actually spread open when guy fell on the first clip! It looks like a shackle spread open from his weight! Are they supposed to do that?
@0:49 when he fell there looks like two clamps. One (top clamp silver) bottom clamp (golden color). That bottom clamp looks like its been pride open or is it an open shackle type thing? Sorry for the confusion!
@@MRR-qv3bw oh okay. Those are called “QuickDraws”. There is a carabiner on top and bottom. It looks like it’s been opened but it just had a “wire gate”. So it’s hard to see what makes it closed and open. Just google wire gate QuickDraw or carabiner to see what I mean. 👍🏻
Time to slam a Piton in lol Jk the climb is called flying buttresses direct they dropped a link to a video in the discord that guy had a better time protecting it. But yeah your right looks can be deceiving.
That reverse repel guy is at point dume. That dude is always they're. Always. I'm talking decades. Fights have been started when he nearly knocked climbers off the routes. He's always been cool when I've been there but he's infamous.
I'm 90% sure that second clip is behind my house. I can see idiots up there with headlamps sometimes. I like to get binoculars and make sure the headlamps don't do what that guy did. 😂
That's what it looks like. His mistake was clipping from too low, which means not only does he end up with extra slack, but it's a more difficult position. Of course, it's always possible that he's forced to clip from the low position because there just isn't a good position further up.
That broken foot was avoidable. Most of the foot and ankle injuries I've seen sport climbing are from hard catches. Would have been safer to give enough slack to fall past the ledge and planned it out with the climber beforehand so he could try and avoid it.
Honestly, this looks like a freak accident. I agree hard catches are problematic, but don't you think more rope would have just led to a fall onto the ledge, which would have been worse? If he had enough slack out to clear the ledge, I think it would have been more force into the wall and even worse. I watched this a bunch of times in slow-motion... As he falls, he pushes off the rock with his right foot to avoid getting caught on the taut rope. When the rope catches him, his body is sideways and he whips towards the wall. Unfortunately, he braces with his left foot followed by his left heel, fracturing his calcaneus (as seen in the x-ray). Most calcaneal fractures are from falls from a roof/ladder onto a hard surface. Increasing the height he fell would have worsened the injury. In retrospect, it would have been better if he didn't jump out so far and just feel straight down. Likely he would have scraped along the rock and flipped around the rope. The best would have been to try to down climb and limit the pendulum swing onto one leg.
@@mls01981 You can actually do the physics equation for impulse momentum to show that a larger fall with more slack will see the climber feeling less force. If he were to jump away from the wall to avoid the ledge it could be worse. I was just saying they should have talked about possibly giving more slack to clear the ledge before getting up there
Usually 4 or 5kn rated, perfectly good enough but not designed for that use. If I ever had the sudden urge to do silly things like that I'd loop a 30cm Nylon sling through my harness and clip it basket hitch along with haul loop. But I won't so it doesn't matter.
As a tree climber, I loved the part about letting it run. Can totally see how the belayer was looking out for the climber around 11:15.
Yeah, and it explained what happened in the one where the guy broke his foot. Too close to the anchor, so he got whipped into the wall.
I’m from Korea and I always share your video with my university alpine club members! Very entertaining and informative! Thank you for awesome contents!
How is the climbing in Korea? It’s mostly sport right?
@@willscanlon9843 Not really! We have a lot of trad&multi pitch outdoors. Outdoor Trad:Sport ratio would be half and half. But most indoor gyms are bouldering gym.
2:21 looks like wasdale roof on napes needle, there is absolutely gear before the roof, setting out through the roof without placing any of it takes a braver (or dumber?) man than me! 3:00 is flying buttress direct at Stanage You're right, a purple cam can be jammed in literally anywhere on the length of that crack you pointed out and be absolutely bomber, though tbf you are in a fairly strenuous position and the prospect of just doing the mantle and getting to the easy part is quite tantalising.
i love these little bits of info on how to be a better all round climber, proper lead belaying is super important and intimidating to learn or even approach someone about
Josh: Where's all the gear? UK climbers: yeah man I mean it's up there u just gotta get there
How does thin man not have more subscribers
If he did, he wouldn't be the best underground climbing channel.
Because thick man ate them all
Did he have a different channel before?
*slender man*
He just needs to beef up a bit
Guy at 6:15 is such a cool dude in person. He's always there too, at Point Dume, every time I've gone he's there and sets up a few top ropes for people. He usually brings little kid sized climbing harnesses and belays kids up some routes with the parents permission.
LOL remember how how up in arms people got about the thought of adding more bolts to Snake Dike after that woman fell and hurt herself? Imagine what they're gonna do with Josh starts building anchors on top of high ball boulder problems.
I'm into it
They would be naty lol I bleed LNT
Even the guy who set the route begged people to put up more bolts. Those people can go climb trad somewhere if they want to set no protection.
Tbh I understand the other point of view too. Damaging rock always sucks and if someone wants safety there are a ton of artificial walls everywhere now!
@@AntonAdelsonYeah, this is kind of a holy war. I don't think I'll change anybody's mind but IMO 6 stainless steel bolts isn't damaging the rock.
Man, great video - As a newer climber I feel like there is no limit to the value of fall preparation and all of this is very helpful as I pursue higher levels on lead and as the belayer. Thank you for making such a helpful video!
Tshirt caption: on the front- 'top rope king', on the back- 'see you at the top, not at the bottom', though those could easily be 2 different t shirts.
But totally agree. I know loads of trad heads in Ireland who are all about onsights and ground up ascents. I think these people have forgotten that climbing is fun even when you eliminate the chance of dying.
It's great to see fails back again, so we can all learn and be a bit safer. Thanks Joshua for a great channel and discord!
12:00 jeez man, that’s awesome belayer. do you realize that belayer’s jedi skiils saved the climber from hitting the ground?!
Lmao the lizard clip was the best part
Heard a story from my climbing coach from when he was on his first 14 out in the NRG, almost dropped a clip with a 15+ foot runoff on a tiny crimp when there was a jug right above him. Apparently some other dude had broken his leg dropping the same clip. Reminded me of the first one a lot 😅
12:35 - “If the belayer’s high on something…” *nervous glance at camera* 🤣💪
I’ve been hurting for another climbing fail’s video. Thank you 🙏🏽
The guy who raps down commando style at ~6:15 is a notorious local at a certain spot in Malibu, CA. I've personally run into him a few times and he's usually either doing the spartan rappel or top rope soloing. He tried to hit on my girlfriend, has a reputation of being a bit of a doucher.
7:14 when he’s under a roof or the climber has to make a travers at the first draw he should have set up a belay point from the anchor (donno what’s it called in english, but in german that’s what it’s called when your belay device is fixed to your anchor) so that in case of a fall the force is transmitted to the anchor, and not get pulled out the wall or as you said into the roof if the climb goes over it…
Dude! Thank you for answering my question so thoroughly! That makes perfect sense, that you belayer can let the line run a little bit and I am super aware of how that changes the physics of the impact force. Now excuse me while I go work out an assisted climbing system for sketchy trees.
Can you cover the opening minutes of the movie "Fall" (2022) it's some of THE most hilarious climbing fails? Like it's unbelievable someone can make a climbing scene in a modern movie with so much wrong in it.
3 mintues in and the crag looks like Stanage in the peak district, England!
The route is “flying buttress direct” if I’m not very much mistaken.
@@owenmorris6962 nice! I just came back from a weekend bouldering in Burbage North 🙏🏻
Awesome as always. Stay safe out there people
6:02 This guy goes by "Old Greg", you can find him at Point Dume in Malibu. Sets up a bunch of ropes on the sea cliffs and spends hours rope soloing and doing these face-first rappel jumps. Seems like he knows what he's doing.
Games?
I’ve climbed near him quite a few times there, he’s tried to take people anchors off while they are top roping, he will solo up a route while you’re climbing it and he has gotten in a few fights. I enjoy his stories and smile but I keep him at arms length.
where's his rappel attached to on his harness? I didn't realize there were harnesses with attach points on the back that could be loaded that way.
@@davindercI mean not oficially per the manual, but it will do for a rappel stunt.
I know a guy who was climbing a tree like you were saying, slipped and swung back to the stem and broke his back. Similarly, I had the same thing happen to myself, was way out on a limb and slipped and wrapped my leg around another large limb. Luckily it wasn't broken but was doubled in size for a couple weeks
Glad to see you're still doing it! Thanks for the video!
You absolutely can protect that horizontal crack in number 2. Its kind of tough and pumpy to do it in one but place and retreat then go again. Ive whipped on a gold cam on that route. Its called flying buttress @ stanage edge in uk.
I've been waiting for this climbing fails for a long time
Very British start to this video. Looks like napes needle and then either flying buttress direct or the sloth.
“If I can see the crack from here, there must be something” this thinking has screwed me over before many times lol
Exactly. That crack may have been to shallow to get a cam inside. Or it may have been to wide.
Maybe the guy didnt have enough of big gear.
Glad you’re back man! 🏔🤟🏾
Pretty sure this is the best episode so far! Going to show it to my non climbing friends!
last clip reminds me of a lot of situations where i see climbers with quite a lot of experience creating bad falling setups for their climbers when belaying in the first 1-3/4 bolts
Yes to the future video on soft catching
Nice collection of fails and bails - happy to see you cover some that were making the rounds on Instagram this week.
I’m a few weeks away from being a first time trad dad. Just ordered a couple colors of shirt to rep my game. Love it.
CONGRATULATIONS! 🎉 Epic!
Thanks for the warning - I skipped the really nasty one.
I like watching your fail videos to learn what not to do, but I really don't like watching serious injuries.
These were some good ones.
That tree catch!! WTF??
The threat is real.
i believe the one at 3.03 is from the peak distirct in the uk. you have one gear in the corner of the crack then nothing til your over that lip...
When your climber falls past you yelling "take!" 😂
number 2 is Napes Needle, lake district UK, hard to protect, the idea is dont fall!!
Really good video !!! Thanks !
at 11:35 you mention something about dynamic belaying and that there not many devices to do it with, can you make a video about that and explain it please, thanks again for sharing this, i learn a lot with these videos you make. cheers
thoughtful discussion. subscribed
Great clips and I appreciate the commentary, gave me some food for thought on my next climb.
Regarding 7:47: Just belay directly from the master point.
CLIP NO.3 Flying buttress direct. E1 5b in English money. So about 5.9/10 YDS. (yes the english grades are different from french its weird). But there is room for some gear but it's all flared and likely to pop. Its nicer to get a gear nest where he had gear and just blast through the overhang.
Also the clip before looks nasty and I wouldn't be surprised if there wasn't any space.
Tree climbing fails would be cool
Love your outro ❤
A vid on how to soft catch with a ATC pilot (and other locking devices) would be interesting.
Looked like two from potash road, the ankle break was napping with the alien maybe?
The third and fourth video, the same thing happened to a guy next to us in Croatia. He didn't wear a helmet. He smashed the back of his head against the rock real bad.
this was really helpful !
thanks
As always, a accelent sharing!
Pro tip:
Turn the playback speet to 0.75 and listen to the 'drunk' Joshua :DD
That jellyfish in the water though.
is that a "Portuguese Man o’ War"?!
Hey man, I just found your channel. Great content! Happy to hear you chat about best practices for climbing. Loved the ending
so that guy rappelling face down came off the end of his rope at the bottom right?
4:27 is not a fail, anybody trying that hard is winning for sure!
Australian climbing be scary exposed shit. That probably explains the screaming
Stoked to see more fails really makes you think. Hilarious how you climb out of frame! It’s the Simple shit man!!
7:50 thats the exact reason you always belay off the anchor and not off your harness in multipitch.
If people afforded to go take courses with trained professionals, they would know that ;)
if you are going to grab a quick draw. grab it by the bone part this way you can let go and not lose a finger. but its better just to fall :D
Yeah and some bones are wayyy to skinny some seem to be made for better gripping though.
I feel like even that is a big risk since as your hand slips down you could get impaled.
"Surely you could get something in that crack right there" 3:03 Clearly you haven't had the pleasure of climbing on grit? Sometimes there is good cam placement but sometimes there is just nothing. Get yourself on a flight over to UK in early summer and try some peak Grit. Maybe if you ask Tom Randal or Pete Whittaker really nicely they might show you round for a few days as a UA-cam collaboration - I'd love to watch that! Come on over.. you'll get a warm welcome (Sheffield)
Ayyyyyyy. Comment for the engagement 👍
Did that rappelling guy also not have a stopper in the end? Looks like the rope runs out of his rappel device after he's down
Looks like he has been doing it for some time now and had it all set up for the video. Each to their own I say, but I wouldn't take advice from commando Joe...
6:28 I've actually climbed that wall (really fun) and while i was climbing a met that guy super nice but definetly a couple screws loose.
This is so informative. Love kt
Unironically thank you for the broken bone warning that shit makes me super queasy
3:40 good thing the climber was anchored to the ground to avoid flying off into orbit.
Seems some people don't get that being tied to the ground below you isn't particularly useful without having something up the rock to attach it to. That's at least two pieces worth of space below the climber, though from the amount of chalk on the rock, and no bolts visible in the radio-quality video, I'd bet there's a nice anchor up top with a walkable trail to set up for top roping.
4:45 yeah, if only someone was above him to set up a top rope rather than just film him coming way too close to a "never gonna climb again" injury.
Good to see a bit of boldness for a change.
So I enjoy backpacking and everything outdoors.. my girlfriend wants to rock climb with no experience.. she over estimates her abilities on hikes. What is the safest way to get into the hobby?
Great video thanks for the content
🤙🏻
09:59 Standing closer to the wall as the belayer would have resulted in a softer catch due to reduced rope friction. Disadvantage may be the reduced visual connection to the climber. Some possible trade offs to think about here
Great content!
Friends,
6:38 I may be wrong but that jellyfish looks like the super poisonous type
At 12:53 Is this the line that Magnus Mitbo free soloed with Alex Honnold for his UA-cam channel?
At nine minutes, the belayer takes ALL the slack out of the rope, even before the fall. It looks like the belayer literally pulled the climber off the wall, and gave the climber the hardest catch possible. I understand there was that ledge there that was a bit of a worry, but I still think they should have tried for a softer catch and it really looks like they pulled the climber off the wall.
Respect
I felt the nerves in my body tingle on that 2nd and 3rd video.
Hi! And thank you.
@2:58 Flying Buttress - Stanage Edge - Peak District UK
Is it a bad idea to grab onto the quick draws dog bone? I can see a potential problem with grabbing the QD beaner but not necessarily the dog bone
Grabbing the dogbone is usually considered acceptable
Broken ankle could have been avoided by a better belay.
Taking tight to avoid the ledge, but then stepping into the catch to soften the wall impact.
Hard to tell how far off the ground he was, as it seems like he was low, but if he was a few bolts up, just a softer catch that gets him past the ledge would be best.
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3rd one was Flying Buttress Direct at Stanage Edge in the English peak District. It does take gear in that crack but it's been the scene of more than a few broken ankles due to the slab below the overhang.
Josh, what size is that Trad Dad shirt you're wearing? Is it a Medium or a Large?
At 4:00 is the top crash pad a mattress?
What is that thing called that actually spread open when guy fell on the first clip! It looks like a shackle spread open from his weight! Are they supposed to do that?
I don’t see what your seeing maybe drop a time stamp 🤙🏻
@0:49 when he fell there looks like two clamps. One (top clamp silver) bottom clamp (golden color). That bottom clamp looks like its been pride open or is it an open shackle type thing? Sorry for the confusion!
@@MRR-qv3bw oh okay. Those are called “QuickDraws”. There is a carabiner on top and bottom. It looks like it’s been opened but it just had a “wire gate”. So it’s hard to see what makes it closed and open. Just google wire gate QuickDraw or carabiner to see what I mean. 👍🏻
Sometimes obvious cracks from the ground don't take gear. normally they do but not always
Time to slam a Piton in lol Jk the climb is called flying buttresses direct they dropped a link to a video in the discord that guy had a better time protecting it. But yeah your right looks can be deceiving.
You’re wearing my shirt.
That reverse repel guy is at point dume. That dude is always they're. Always. I'm talking decades. Fights have been started when he nearly knocked climbers off the routes. He's always been cool when I've been there but he's infamous.
He also planned ahead. Those look like tough gloves. I think a lot of the fails hes on about people try to control the rope with their bare hands.
Hi Joshua!
Hi Mitch! 🤙🏻
@@BetaClimbers That was a great structural video. Wear your helmets, people!
I'm 90% sure that second clip is behind my house. I can see idiots up there with headlamps sometimes. I like to get binoculars and make sure the headlamps don't do what that guy did. 😂
Maeby in the first one he was trying to clip but could not and then fell? That's why he was crabbing it.
That's what it looks like. His mistake was clipping from too low, which means not only does he end up with extra slack, but it's a more difficult position. Of course, it's always possible that he's forced to clip from the low position because there just isn't a good position further up.
Tom Cruise "did ti", so I do. Cristal clear, rigth!
3:40 mark, sure looked like a clip stick lying there..
That broken foot was avoidable. Most of the foot and ankle injuries I've seen sport climbing are from hard catches. Would have been safer to give enough slack to fall past the ledge and planned it out with the climber beforehand so he could try and avoid it.
Honestly, this looks like a freak accident. I agree hard catches are problematic, but don't you think more rope would have just led to a fall onto the ledge, which would have been worse? If he had enough slack out to clear the ledge, I think it would have been more force into the wall and even worse.
I watched this a bunch of times in slow-motion... As he falls, he pushes off the rock with his right foot to avoid getting caught on the taut rope. When the rope catches him, his body is sideways and he whips towards the wall. Unfortunately, he braces with his left foot followed by his left heel, fracturing his calcaneus (as seen in the x-ray). Most calcaneal fractures are from falls from a roof/ladder onto a hard surface. Increasing the height he fell would have worsened the injury.
In retrospect, it would have been better if he didn't jump out so far and just feel straight down. Likely he would have scraped along the rock and flipped around the rope. The best would have been to try to down climb and limit the pendulum swing onto one leg.
I wonder if with the weight difference it means women get more injured that way?
@@mls01981 You can actually do the physics equation for impulse momentum to show that a larger fall with more slack will see the climber feeling less force. If he were to jump away from the wall to avoid the ledge it could be worse.
I was just saying they should have talked about possibly giving more slack to clear the ledge before getting up there
@@Elophee Definitely. I'm 190 pounds and I have to pay tonnes of attention to giving a soft catch.
@@LastCookieToCrumble that's pretty crazy physics! either way, what a bummer for that climber. soft catches are highly under-appreciated!
I thought people stopped failing...
My work is never over 😅
Dude that broke his foot had those vegan bones
Since when did patty Mayo climb?
I wonder how many of those people started wearing helmets after the fail? (But not really, I know none of them did.)
“If you don’t like the sound of breaking bones”…(me putting the volume up)
Is the towing loop on a harness rated?
No but I don’t think that’s what that guy was rapping on if that’s where you came up with that lol think it was a separate thing. I hope lol
@@BetaClimbers it certainly looks like he's abseiling off his towing loop to me and I didn't think it was rated.
Usually 4 or 5kn rated, perfectly good enough but not designed for that use. If I ever had the sudden urge to do silly things like that I'd loop a 30cm Nylon sling through my harness and clip it basket hitch along with haul loop. But I won't so it doesn't matter.
@@mattbaker1683 I have heard of people putting a harness on backwards to do that