Final Vendetta - Review
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- Опубліковано 18 вер 2024
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347 - Here's a review of the new 2D beat 'em up for modern consoles from Bitmap Bureau and Numskull Games.
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Training mode needing to be unlocked might be one of the dumbest things I’ve ever seen as an unlockable
A person meets their soul mate, courage to approach them, gets married, honeymoon, baby announcement.......NOW you want to give them Dating tips? (see how Stupid that sounds? i'm just sayin, imho they screwed this game up)
I think Pokemon White 2 unlocking easy mode after beating the main game is right up there.
In legend of Zelda Minish Cap, you have to unlock the ability to break pots with your sword.
At least it isn't day one dlc you need to pay for... right lol
On the other hand, this doesn't look like a game which really requires a "training mode", so, I think the whole thing is something of an elaborate joke. Or, maybe the training mode is only intended to teach advanced techniques or tactics, and they deliberately left it out to make it easier to get into playing the game on easy (in which case, beating the game on easy could itself be considered the first part of the training mode).
I can think of a few games where beating it on easy basically requires no real skill, but where you have to learn a whole new set of skills to actually beat it on the highest or second highest difficulty settings.
The whole world is going flippy for TMNT:SR and here’s Joe doing Final Vendetta 😂
i can wait with turtles, yeah cool but i can't say i enjoyed turtles 2 on the nes.. so game and series are not the same.. i love wrestling but 2k22 sucks so then i play games i do like. i could even wait for dlc hope they will add usagi yojimbo.. and yeah to beat the game and then beat it again with dlc.. zzzzzzzzzzz same shitty game so i don't think so
Because he got it free.
Yup! We beat that one today at a friends house. The gameplay got a big overhaul compared to the original and there are a lot of stages...and foot soldiers.
No Continues! 😡
Havent played Vendetta yet but Turtles was a huge disappointment. May be pretty, but is way too shallow.
This game has the unfortunate luck of being released a day after a HUGE beat em up in TMNT Shredders Revenge.
Yeah though luck and shredders revenge is perfect and is on gamepass this will be a though sell for your typical gamer.
buy both and play both
That's not bad luck, they chose to release it then. They could have waited.
Game release date was announced months ago with physical editions.
TMNT release date was announced a week ago...
It's also nowhere near as good.
This is from a lonely guy working all night on projects. I mean ALL night. It's maddening. But having Joe on the next screen over makes things a little better. You're the best, Joe. We can't thank you enough for what you do.
Man we really gotta stop kissing small developers asses. I mean I get it it's impressive what they do short staffed. But at the same time we overrate the hell of their projects. This game is ok at best. Very average. The original Vendetta is so much better. That's just the truth
I kind of love how that one enemy you couldn’t hit was named Karen 😂
Got me laughing out loud
I love the SNK look of these graphics.
Yeah exactly!!!! I feel like this COULD have been on the Neo Geo. Mark of the wolves beat'em up please!!! Lol
Wanna nitpick? This game has some weird-looking walk cycles. I feel like the animation in SoR4 was more skilfully executed, although this does look nice and smooth. Selling out of the physical release before it's even released is always annoying. Somebody should start a publisher called "Supply Matches Demand Games"
Yea you get it online. But I do not like this.
Here look this new game has a special edition. Can I have it... Ahm no it was selled out 2 months before release.
The walk cycle for Clare is super funny
Nitpick? Sure!
1. They don't even teach or tell you that block + special = rush attack.
2. There's no medium difficulty. Just either hard or easy.
3. They put the default difficulty on hard.
4. There's only 3 characters, which are Final Fight knockoffs.
5. The music and stages is a ripoff of Streets of Rage 2
6. There's absolutely no continues, credits, or saves.
7. "Easy" mode is just 2 extra lives and it's still not easy.
8. You have to beat arcade mode to unlock training mode.
9. The points don't matter, there's nothing to unlock with it.
10. It's $25 dollars, about the same price as TMNT Shredder's Revenge.
I purchased the game but have yet to play it… but the strange walk animations were the first thing I noticed from watching previews/reviews on youtube
You’re right. Those are nitpicks
With all due respect, everything you demonstrated in this video for Final Vendetta made me actually turned off from the game.
I personally believe Streets of Rage 4 did an incredible job taking the classic series and modernizing it. The graphics, music, and gameplay are all top notch. It’s beefier size and variety make it an amazing package and I’d say it’s the greatest best-em-up ever made.
Final Vendetta was clearly made with a lot of love, but the difficulty, hidden options, and lack of variety make it much worse in my eyes.
Streets of Rage 4 just seems like the better package between the two. I grew up on the SEGA Genesis and when I wasn’t playing Sonic the Hedgehog, I was playing Streets of Rage 2. So, while I love that old school feel, I feel Final Vendetta could’ve been so much more.
Great video though and I’m really glad I got to watch this!
I grew up with those games too and anything that potentially captures the magic of that era immediately gets my attention. So I pre ordered this. It certainly looks and sounds the part and in that sense it does capture that old school feel but gameplay wise it's more frustrating than fun. A big dissapointment for me.
I disagree with your pov. Sor4 got repetitive and soon boring. Short, difficult, beat ‘em ups have always been the industry standard
If I'm being honest, Final Vendetta is one of the worst beat 'em ups I've played in a long time.
I'm not a fan of SOR having never played them back in the day, but even I found SOR4 to be the best beat em up ever made. It's since been beaten by TMNT though.
I agree with this.
Thank you so much for another video! I appreciate all your hard work to get these out to us!
Bro Shredder’s Revenge has been announced for a while, imagine releasing your dollar store beat ‘em up in the same week as that. RIP… 😬
Final Vendetta is shovelware in my opinion.
Shredder's Revenge release date wasn't announced until last week. So it's more that they have bad luck, being released a day after that TMNT masterpiece.
@@BoozeAholic I'll bet when the final vendetta devs heard the announcement of the release date last week for TMNT that it was devastating
Dollar store beat ‘em up. 🤣
Final vandetta is not a dollar store beat um up. Go play it and find out how to get your butt kicked.
Streets of Final Vendetta: Dragon Ransom, Featuring Battletoads
I love the art style in SoR4. The graphics in Final Vendetta aren't bad, but all of the characters just look so bland. None of them look cool or interesting and make me want to play as them.
The artstyle in SoR4 looks like it belongs in a little kiddy cartoon for five year olds.
It's a videogame. It's essentially a toy. Cool your tits.
I agree ..this game looks like a fan made Mugen project whereas sor 4 looks a lot more polished with more personality
@@TurboNutterBastard take that back nerd
I was literally just thinking I had a hard time telling which was the player character in some of the footage here.
Streets of Rage 4's deeper physics and combo capabilities makes it far out class all retro beat-em-ups in my eyes.
I agree. Very cleverly designed game. Mastering all the combos and best ways to use each character gives Streets of Rage 4's gameplay far more depth and replay value than any of the classics of the genre (many of which I do still love).
I agree i love SoR4 easily the best beat em up ive ever played. Playing on Mania difficulty is hella fun even though its tough as nails. Bit hey makes it more interesting than this game. Final Vendetta looks kinda boring in comparison
It's like a beat 'em up and a fighting game put together, with an amazing soundtrack.
Yup. It's the best ever. And I have played them all. Seriously.
"deeper physics and combo capabilities" Just bloat to make non skilled players feel like they're good at the game.
The most surprising thing I learned in this video is that you’re not that much a fan of SOR 4! Shocking! That was my GOTY when released. Final Vendetta looks really cool. Going to have to pick it up.
SOR4 is a top 5 game of the past generation for me! Its deep AF and I think a lot of people just aren't skilled enough to discover and pull off some of the craziest combos just like a lot of people will never be any good in Street Fighter. It's no doubt the deepest beat' em up ever made and an absolute masterpiece. I'm having a blast with TMNT but SOR4 is the pinnacle in the genre. I think people who don't really get the game need to see a few videos of what it's really possible to do and that would open their eyes to the depth of the gameplay. It's leap and bounds better than Final Vendetta and Joe has clearly not played Mania mode when he says FV is more difficult.
Yeah, I almost clicked off the video. SoR4 is the best in the genre without question. Final Vendetta only manages to emulate the feel of why people like beat-em-ups. The soundtrack while correct for the genre, is forgettable. The balance is insanely dated. Lastly, I have no idea what made them decide to make the game as ugly as the oldest of this genre. It's got all this great animation work, but all the sprites are derpy, and lack any kind of style. They got the soundtrack right, the combat feel, but didn't think any of it should look cool. Interesting choice.
EDIT: The club track: Club Tigre is truly a banger worthy of the genre. FV's soundtrack is on average better than SoR4, as that game has some bangers but also some utter trash.
SoR4 is incredible. The majority of people that give it a shot agree also.
It always seems crazy to me that Joe isn’t a fan. (He can like/hate what he wants…but it still seems like bizarro land to me.)
Oh wow, you didn't like SOR4?? Lol. Man as a HUGE SOR series fan i absolutely loved it, it's literally one of my favorite beat em ups of all time, especially after the "Mr. X Nightmare" DLC. That game is amazing in my opinion.
Yeah man. Him dropping that info first made this review worthless.
My guess is the lack of pixel graphics. Joe likes his Beat em ups the way likes his women: Chunky
But it does have a pixel art filter
@@dracovania A Filter? Next thing you tell Joe to use an Emulator as well?
i never even wanted to play 4 ever since i saw that retarded, cartoony look. then there's the constant juggling that looks like it would completely ruin the feel of the genesis games. i still play 2 and 3 and enjoy them a lot but couldn't care less about 4. this game looks like something i'd enjoy because it looks like it captures the feel of classic sor far more than sor 4.
Thanks for the review dude! Glad you had a fun time with it. Really enjoyed watching this.
Wanted to point out for many of those commenters below, the developers are definitely doing all they can to address feedback and are considering adding a casual gameplay option.
LRG also have opened some extra physical pre-orders over at Amazon US too!
(Also for some of the skeptics, our release date was set in April, there's no way of changing that with a weeks notice when physical is involved.)
Your game is unoriginal garbage!🗑
Adding a casual mode doesn’t solve the issues with this game. The video demonstrates a lot of the issues.
@@WillieSlackmer "the developers are definitely doing all they can to address feedback" AND "considering a casual gameplay option"
And I just wanted to run this game on my Laptop with Intel HD Graphics 1000. But apparently the game won't work because it requires 1GB of VRAM. 😔
If possible, tell the developers to optimize the game for low-end laptops. So the game will be accessible to everyone.
Big thanks!
Note: The game was tested on Intel HD Graphics 1000 and works 100%! 👍😎🤘 Very cool game too. I only suggest that the developers add four more stages.
Streets of Rage 4 is not nearly as divisive as you claim. I assume Shredder's Revenge is the only project like this faithful enough to please certain OCD 40-year-olds. It's amazing that unless it feels exactly like TMNT 5 by the original devs on MVS hardware, it will be considered "divisive." Now look what you did. They tried to make this game more "faithful" to the stiff, janky crap we had and they nailed it. Nice work everyone...
Streets of Rage 4 is fine but it’s one of the better ones. The style of animation in general looks cheap to me. Having borders around every character. Unfortunately Shredder’s Revenge has that too even though it’s pixel art and it looks really bad to me.
when the trailer dropped the art style was divisive. when all we had was a trailer the art style was all we could judge, so we did. once the game released, and the gameplay was embraced by most players, and high level players started uploading runs with insane combos, the art style was put on the backburner and is just accepted now.
if the game had straight up sucked, the art style probably would have been thrown under the bus with it.
@@craigluft7453 Exactly. For a game reviewer now to say SOR4 is divisive is like a movie critic saying Casino Royale is divisive because there was controversy about Daniel Craig playing Bond before any movie came out.
This game was a huge disappointment. It's more frustrating than fun.
Streets of Rage 4 is still my favorite modern beat em up.
@@automaticbulb Artificial difficulty is cheap. I mean it's one thing to fight Mike Tyson, it's whole 'nother thing to fight Mike Tyson blind folded! I mean you can pretty much play this game blind folded and get similar results. Having no continues, no saves, no point progression system, with cheap deaths is not real difficulty. What a bummer this game is.
There is way more than the three hit combo, etc. Movements are actually quite varied, check any other reviewer talking about gameplay.
@Channel Zero lol ok Felicia
@Channel Zero Lol.
@@automaticbulb
SoR 4 looks like an ugly flash game reject.
Final Vendetta, I found to be boring and completely devoid of any life whereas SOR4 injected so much love and enjoyment into the genre. To each his own I guess?
SOR4 is MUCH better
@@thomasgrieve1924 Totally agree
There are some wrong opnions that's just how it is... especially since he seems he thinks this one is better... i mean you can think sor4 is not that great thats an opnion but to think this game is better... 0 logic.
Well you are talking about Dotemu... and this means talk about the best studio for retro games after Shredder's Revenge. So... I would give it a break.
Devoid of any life? Have you played it for more than 5 minutes?
This channel deserves so much more recognition, I've only been watching for a year but I've become a huge fan. I like playing these while working or falling asleep.
A friend invited me to play it on Steam in COOP, we both died in STAGE 3 only to find out we had to start the whole game again. That was it for me. 90s beat'em up were much better as they let you insert a coin and continue having fun.
Yeah, that was definitely a mistake to not include continues. It looks like they're responding to the criticism and working on what is for now labeled as "casual" mode. Not sure the details, but they did show a screenshot of the option. So if you otherwise liked the game, you might be able to go back to it and enjoy it more once they get the update done.
Really baffling and insanely stupid fucking decision to not include continues like seriously what were they smoking? Lol
@@Arthur0ne they are laughing at you for even wanting to play this mess.
Before anybody flips out: You/I/Joe/your dog can like or fanboy over any game they want.
With that being said, it still boggles my mind that Joe’s not much of a SoR4 fan…and even moreso that he was fairly high on Final Vendetta.
Hyped for TMNT. Waiting until next week to play through it with a friend.
Some people have crap taste.
This guy is one of many.
0:43 the mr x dlc survival mode was really good
Random tangent. Your comment about eating off the ground made me remember. This one time at band camp... just kidding. This one time on a rafting trip..... we baked potatoes in our camp fire. They were wrapped in tin foil. One potato stayed in the camp fire all night. As we were extinguishing the coals in the morning we found it and looked at it. It was shrunk, blackened on the outside and dry and shriveled on the inside. There was a chiropractor with us that looked at it, popped it his mouth and wolfed it down like the best of Sunday brunches.
The skit at the end was gold.
I feel like he may have made this whole episode to talk about how much he doesn't like Streets of Rage 4
No continues is dumb. Gotta pass.
Once again, I find myself in a position where I'm actually awake when you upload a video!
Woo-hoo!
Funny enough, TMNT Shredder’s Revenge came out close to this game 😜 I would love to hear your opinions on that game as well 😊
(I think Game Sack got something against Dotemu somehow)
I've only played Shredders Revenge for 1-2 hours, and it's combo system is on the other spectrum compared to SoR4. You can do a pretty simplistic combo set, power up your ninja attack during a slight break, use your ninja attack, and repeat that indefinitely. Mix in some rush attacks, and your good. I haven't figured out how to 1 cc the bosses yet though. All the characters have a different move set and rhythm, which is where I think it gets interesting in terms of mixing up your attack moves.
@@Horos_de_Vega Dotemu is only the publisher; Tribute Games is the developer.
@@MrJechgo Dotemu is also the producer and they gave inputs and worked on the game alongside Tribute Games. They are not only the publisher.
sorry joe but i completely disagree about SOR4. It's amazing. I bought it twice it was so good.
Interesting how you didn't get bored and played thru this game but not SoR4 even tho that game has a deep and engaging combat system even every character plays differently
His take on SOR4 is baffling as a Sega fan. The game is an absolute dream for any fan of the original trilogy.
i really enjoyed SOR4 too ,i guess he got his own opinion
Joe has never been the biggest fan of the genre. I think he prefers games that are easier to just jump into. That's the one problem when a game has more depth, it becomes harder to get into. But some people just didn't like SOR4 and that's fine. We're all going to run into games that others seem to love that just do nothing for us. Castlevania 4 is one example for me.
Enjoyed the game but it's not in the upper pantheon of side scrolling beat ups (in fact it's not even close ). SoR 4 is still the king.
The graphics for SoR4 were a departure from the classic but I can't say I love the pixel graphics here. It kinda looks like the developers first pixel game. Eyes seem like they are on the sides of heads and the walk cycles are rough to look at. I'm sure the game is great but I feel like the pixel art needed more time in the oven.
Yup, I love pixels but SoR4 just blows this away visually on all accounts. I personally think bagging on hand-drawn visuals over pixels is extremely petty too as both require hard work and dedication
I will be passing on Final Vendetta and grabbing Shredder's Revenge physical on Switch instead.
Its bad looking, I agree
I have a huge soft spot for goofy walk cycles. When they are as over the top goofy as they are here, I find it quite charming.
I do like this channel. Not sure about using the introduction in this video to backhand Streets of Rage 4. It was a great looking, great playing modern update to a classic game that stands with the previous versions and does not deserve to be swept under the rug by Game Sack.
This channel has gone down hill since Dave left.
The combo/juggle system in streets of rage 4 held me to the end. This type of game is greatly benefited by variaty in the gameplay and I think the combo/juggle system really adds to it. There’s a similar system in TMNT SR, which is also great.
so basicly you are spamming the same moves? to me that is boring, i play for fun so i want to use every move in the game.. too bad sor4 doesn't have that many moves.. no need to stick to a few moves because of the 90's games right..
@@theelitegamer1980 no.
@@theelitegamer1980oh you're easily flattered by a bloviated move list.
Just stick to fighting games that have more than the standard for everyone in game. Beat em ups were never about that crap.
Thanks Joe for this review! The game looks good, but the lack of continues is a deal-breaker for me I think. I'm one of those weirdos that liked the SoR4 graphics. The old style 16 bit graphics are fine. I'm enjoying TMNT: SR a lot, but I think it's nice to see "modern" graphics paired with classic gameplay. As always, I appreciate your candid and detailed reviews! Thanks again!
Always great to wake up on Sunday and see there's a new Game Sack episode
We’re all allowed to like (or not like) different things, but I hope you can reassess SoR 4. It’s just so good, especially with the Mr. X Nightmare DLC. To me, it’s the best fighting system I’ve ever seen in a beat em up and it took me a few playthroughs to really get it.
Either way, appreciate your reviews!
Just the name "Mr X Nightmare DLC" kind of turns me off. I don't think I need a nightmare difficulty mode. Others are talking about the survival mode in the DLC. Not really jonesing for a survival mode either. I just like regular ol' single player normal game mode.
@@GameSack The nightmare dlc isn't a difficulty mode, it's a survival/rougelike mode that's actually the thing I've had the most fun with in the game, especially with friends. It also comes with playable Shiva, cop lady i forgot the name of, and Max as well as a whole new set of unlockable moves for the original characters.
@Rain Dog such a stupid take
@@tigerfestivals5137same man I love the survival mode in sor4
Joe: Time for Literacy Corner.
Bare Knuckle 3 box: I'm about to end this man's whole career.
There's a certain amateurish quality to the art and animation that drags the game right down. The problem is that we live in an age where we have full access to the real games that inspired this. These faux retro abominations put me in mind of cargo cult artifacts where they get so far but they are still obvious interpretations assembled from crudely carved wood, mud and coconut shells.
The world could always use more good beat 'em ups.
Really hope you fully revisit SOR4 in the future.
Edit: Wait, your biggest issue with SOR4 is that it wasn't made by SEGA? or because it's not a "90's beat 'em up?"
Sounds like the graphical style and balancing were the main gripes.
Literally not what he said
It's a glorified SuperNES MeToo-style brawler released during a drought/slow trickle of beatemups. SOR4 set the standard for the beatemup renaissance.
Too little too late, TMNT trounces this HARD. this should have been a spring release or autumn, right now it will just be relegated to "could have been"
But we don't need any more videos on that game do we! Enough is enough
The new TMNT is ok. It's no Turtles in Tim or Hyper stone heist
@@RoomerJ ok my ass. It's easily the best turtles game
@@thomasgrieve1924 It's good, just not turtles in time or Hyper stone heist levels of good. It's repetitive even for a beat em up, nor than the older ones. Level design is bland by comparison and the controls aren't nearly as tight and responsive. And it's stupid short too. It feels more like a budget homage to the original arcade games than a modern improvement on them.
You don't always have to play games the moment they're released you know. You can still enjoy them later.
Remember when the original Streets of Rage came out and everyone loved it? But then a couple years later, Streets of Rage 2 came out and everyone was blown away. It felt like going back to the original game was a step backward because they put so many valuable things into the game. I feel this way about Final Vendetta. It has a great foundation, it just needs to build on it more. I'd be really excited if they announced a sequel.
"Playing single player mode because I have no friends"
*cries in Dave*
I'm the one who gave the guy who made the sprites Flash back in 2006 so he could try and make his own custom Iori KoF sprites.
The dude grew up loving Streets of Rage and King of Fighters and his sprite work always looks like a combination of these 2 things.
His work isn't always the best, he was in all the bottom classes, was in special needs and wasn't very liked.
The fact his hard fan work is now being released in a full release is a major accomplishment for the guy and while it may not be great and the animation does appear a little "stiff" and off I definitely can't help but feel proud for him.
He had an interest and stuck with it even when people didn't always like what he did. He taught me that anyone can do anything.
I'm currently playing through Streets of Rage 4 and enjoying the hell out of it. I didn't know the balancing was off when it first came out.
I don't remember having a problem when I first played it, though maybe I didn't play it immediately. I was really impressed with it. If you want a really unbalanced beatemup, try River City Ransom Underground. A lot of great things about that game but they really screwed up the difficulty and its almost heartbreaking.
I played it when it came out. I thought it was great. It was definitely significantly more challenging than previous SOR games. I recall getting a Game Over within the first two stages, which really surprised me. But with a little persistence, I was able to get through the game without too much trouble. The last level was tough. I should try it again to see how it plays now.
Its fine until you get to high difficulties. Then it's a lot of attacks from off screen, tons and tons of super armor so the enemies don't flinch and of course those attacks that happen when the enemy rises from the ground. Sucked.
It wasn't really.
Axel wasn’t super fun to use. I think a lot of people started with Axel and formed an opinion on the game. Certainly sounds like that’s what this guy did.
I think this is the best beat'em'up that I've played in the last 10 years or so.
The controls are very tight and satisfying.
Btw Joe, the special button can be used when you grapple an enemy, when you dash, or when you hold a weapon.
Also, those enemies you couldn't hit, can be hit with a dash + special button. With the female character, that sets them up for a juggle.
Have you played Shredder's Revenge?
@@burgerbobber5791 Sure have. I think this is better.
How a fan of this genre didn’t like Streets of Rage 4 is beyond me! :P Took me back to my childhood playing on the Genesis while simultaneously feeling at home in 2020. Loved it.
Yea I can't take his opinion seriously after that bit
Yeah it made me just about click off the video as soon as he said it. His judgement apparently sucks. And this game is a ripoff of sorts. The characters and their moves are literally sor.
I think we should mind our own business, bud. Thanks.
@@theconsolekiller7113 wait… we should mind our own business about the opinion he stated publicly to us, his audience? What??
Right. Its great to see ONE person who gets it.@@nacthenud
I like the graphics better in this game than Streets of Rage 4. The pixel art style is timeless.
@@BarryRerack147 There's a difference between making the best graphics you can within strict limitations, versus trying to make graphics that _look_ limited.
And yeah, it usually shows.
Ther's a good brawler in there somewhere but it's let down by poor design - cheap hits and enemy patterns, unbalanced difficulty spikes and not enough continues are not a good way to make a game challenging or fun. Even brawlers from back in the 90s knew these were bad design decisions (or at least the good ones did)!
I'm enjoying the brawler renaissance but it's strange that half of the modern ones can't capture the magic and fun of the originals.
I totally agree. It’s a frustrating game to play. I don’t know if it’s intentional or bad design. The amount of cheap hits and enemy invincibility is insane.
*Bitmap bureau, if you seeing this, I definitely want this in my local arcade* (with continue, of course). it'll be so fun to kicking ass and dumping quarters with friends.
Honestly this game sounds like it's unnecessarily punishing and more frustrating than fun.
Sounds like every other NeoGeo game. Because IS a NeoGeo game. If you’re old school this unfair punishing difficulty is bread and butter
For real this game is insane easy. When you learn do the juggle combos the game gain fun and lost difficult.
Combo example for Duke:
Punch, punch, punch , flaming punch sequence ( special + block) , ➡️➡️ special ➡️➡️ special , run ( if close run to other side) : from this point you can change what can do and extend the combo.
Not is more robust that SoR4 gameplay that is masterpiece.
But is one very deep gameplay,need more practice and try to use the moves and juggle.
The 3 characters have own moves and launcher moves. Need exploration.
It's called artificial difficulty. No continues, no saves, no leveling up, no point progression system, cheap deaths, too many enemies. The game is unfair, unbalanced, and unforgiving.
@@TomAnderson7 Nah there are a lot of fair Neo Geo games out there, even the legendarily hard fighting games all gaev you some fucking continues and some later ones like King of Fighters '98 don't even get brutally hard AI until the last stage or two.
@@snoozy04 yeah i don't mind hard gamea but the audacity to have a training rook but hide it behind beating the game is kind of insane
That end skit is absolutely one of your best!
While this games does look very good; it also looks like a mid tier fan game made on the Beats of Rage Engine.. Funny; I feel the same way about this game that you do for Streets of Rage 4. If this were $7.99 I would buy it right away; but it's asking price assumes there aren't alot of other better best em ups available or comming soon.
I have never seen a game for the BoR engine this good.
@@whitestriderable Your tube best openbor games and watch some vidoes.
@@enriquepinero707 there's NO open BoR game this good.
The music in this game is fantastic.
It really is amazing
I'm all over Shredder's Revenge right now so if this review lets me know that this game is good, I'm in. I'm in a brawler mood.
Love to know what you think of Shredders Revenge Ian. Can't wait for your new videos. Hope you had a great Father's Day.
Just the best editing and extras. Too good for us!!!
As someone who played games since the 80s, ANY game that had NO continues was Not worth my time. But what was WORSE than a game with NO continues?
A game that Had continues, but when you face the Final Boss, the "Continue" option was inexplicably _Disabled,_ forcing you to start All the way back to the beginning. A LOT of arcade/console games (NAM'1975, Time Soldiers, Silent Scope) Did this back then.
Yep, no continues, no money for you!
SOR4 really shines in COOP. We played the heck out of it. Final V just doesn't make me wanna play it without continues.
Shredder's Revenge is doing a great job of scratching that beatemup itch!
10:53 Precious memories of the PSP reading a UMD
The graphics remind me of the game violent storm which is one of my favorite beatem ups. If final vendetta included funny background things like that game it would be more interesting
Violent Storm and dancing pizza girl are the best
Greeeeaat great outro! Hope you'll never stop doing these! Oh and the rest of the video, too.
Thanks for the review. I wonder if you're do a review of TMNT- Shredder's Revenge too. Love to hear your thoughts of it.
Wait the game finally released??
@@TheScoobyRawShow Been out since this past Thursday.
He said over on Twitter that he wouldn't as has missed the window of interest by the time he gets it out. What a shame as it's far more interesting than this.
Probably think it's boring lol
Streets of Rage 4 is the pinnacle of the genre.
Hey Joe, love your stuff. Just wanted to nitpick and point out that every time you have mentioned SOR4 your gameplay footage shows you spamming the same attacks over and over. It makes me wonder if you are aware of all the mechanics, or just choose not to use them. Maybe you'd have more fun with the bigger variety of movesets in SOR4? Not to mention the random sim modes in the expansion are AWESOME. Sorry, I know you hate me now ':)
I noticed the same thing when he showed Sengoku 3. He was only using the weapon attacks in the video, when the game wants you to mix up weapon and punch attacks. Makes Sengoku 3 a whole lot more fun. Joe's not the biggest beat-em-up fan based on past videos and I think he prefers simpler ones where it's easier to jump in.
@@ravagingwolverine I noticed that as well! Sengoku 3 is one of my favorite beat em ups just because of the wider range of movesets.
Man, that walking animation is so exaggerated. It's like they're power walking everywhere.
Once I heard your opinion on streets of rage 4 I knew the rest of this review wouldn’t do it for me streets of rage 4 is the best beat ‘‘em up since dragons crown which is another game that needs a sequel
Check out Fight'N Rage too if you haven't yet!
Yeah, i don't get his complains. SOR4 was fine imo. I still prefer the 2nd, but calling 4 bad is just nonsensical.
I have nothing against this game, i know every game developer have to start somewhere, but this don't looks, feels and play better in ANY way possible. Looks more like a fan game imo.
The first thing I thought when I saw the graphics on this is “SNK”. Specifically, it has a real Art of Fighting vibe.
Thanks for the review and recommendation, Joe. When I can afford to do so, I'm sure I'll get this one at the PlayStation Store for my PS4. I do love me some beat-'em-ups! \m/
"After playing (SoR 4) for twenty minutes I put it down and never picked it up again." Annnnnd I'm gone.
This game has awful character designs (especially the main cast). It's so bland and uninspired that it feels like some stock spritework in a tech-demo. The lack of uniqueness makes it highly plausible that no one will remember this game after a month.
This game is a game that is a beatemup that people play that people don't really get until people realize it's a game that's a beatemup that takes some skill from said people.
This game has NOTHING on SoR4.
I watched a couple of reviews, the best is yours... As always, you seem to be the only one with a videogame culture and willing to talk about the good and the bad! THANK YOU!
To me personally, Streets of Rage 4 is the best Streets of Rage, followed by Streets of Rage 2
Vendetta is available on the PSN, through the ACA games.
i encourage to find Streets of Rage Remake, version 5.0 or higher, THAT is the best SOR game since 2, SOR 4 isnt bad mind you, but it does miss in certain aspects.
Streets of Rage 3 destroys 2.
@@pancakebreakfast3188 uhhh... no... it's good there's no doubt in that, but there were misses in 3, one of them being the audio.
@@UltimateGamerCC Music is about the only thing 2 does better than 3. SoR3 plays faster, has a deeper combat system, and better graphics. SoR2 feels archaic in comparison.
@@pancakebreakfast3188 sound too, the death sounds for the generic baddies just sucks ass and the hits dont sound as good either, lacks the literal punch from 2.
DISAGREE! I freaking LOVE the Literacy Corner endings! It's like gamer based ASMR! I could literally watch a whole episode of you doing these.
I didn't know people were so uppity regarding SoR4's visuals. They
objectively look great. Odd considering 1 looks nothing like 2 and
Streets 3 looks like someone threw up on Streets of Rage 2.
P.s. GRAND UPPAH!
It cause of nostalgia. If it doesn’t look like what came before then people say “ it doesn’t fit in with the rest of the series”. However, if didn’t look exactly the same after all these years, then would say “ why didn’t they change it up or innovate? It’s not the 90’s anymore; this looks dated. It offers nothing new “.
I mean, remember how upset some fans were when street Fighter 3 and 4 came out and their art styles and visuals were completely different from all the previous entries we had up till that point; even though they looked so much more detailed and had better fluidity.
@@Dhampir101980 I'm 39. Been playing Streets 2 since release. I know WHY they're whining. It doesn't change the fact streets 4 looks great.
@Dances Rainy Streets still looks the mutt's nutz
@@ninjapirate47 36 here and i played a shit ton of SoR2 since release as well. I still prefer 2 over 4, but 4 looks and plays so damn good.
I like The Gentleman being a giant Haggar homage.
Wish you would do this for TMNT Shredder's revenge. It is an amazing throwback with modern controls. Loving it.
Yeah, I'd wish he'd review that too!
Can't wait for the sequel, Final Vendetta of Rage: Osric's Revenge lol
Thank you for doing an excellent review, that tells the pros and cons without beating around the bush.
While the game does seem to have its charm, the fact that it doesn't offer any continue is really holding me.
There's a reason why most console adaptations of arcade games used to cool down the difficulty compared to their cabinet counterparts, and that's because with arcade, assuming you had enough quarters, you virtually had unlimited continues.
I don't think it's a good move to make a game "arcade hard" if you don't keep this feature... or maybe it's just my older self who doesn't have the time or will to play an entire afternoon to beat the game in one rush?
Maybe they'll patch it later? I hope they do, that would actually make me consider buying it!
Have a nice sunday!
From what I've seen it looks like they're adding a "casual" mode. While I have heard the game isn't as hard as it first seems, I'm with you that lack of any continues is a problem. Looks like they'll be fixing it fairly soon, so keep an eye on it if you're otherwise interested.
@@ravagingwolverine the training mode unlock is silly. I was playing as Claire earlier and did some move that I didn't know how I did it, then promptly got my ass handed to me. I suppose I need to get better at dodging and blocking
@@Yomeidient Yeah, having a training mode unlocked by beating the game is silly. Maybe they could have had boss characters be unlockable for training mode so that you could practice on getting better against them. What they did was definitely weird, I agree with you there.
streets of rage visuals is a worthy upgrade. I dont get why people dont like it. actually this is first time I heard someone not liking it.
How can you possibly be underwhelmed by SOR4?
This looks like crap compared to that game.
Derp
@Rain Dog grow up
Yes, literacy corner! I love it. You've got a great ASMR voice, Joe!
I still find Double Dragon Neon very fun. It kept me entertained longer than I thought. A strange analogy but it felt like Gremlins two. They knew they could not compete with the original so they decided to go down the humour route which worked well for it.
That game was very good and a lot of fun. I don't think it has aged very well, but at the time it was great.
I love SoR4, imho it's a great update to the formula.
i am surprised that you don't like SOR4. For me , it's one of my favourite beat em up in recent years
It looks ok and wouldn't have looked out of place in the arcades back in the 90's. The problem with the graphics is the lack of dithering which makes everything look flat, especially the player sprites. There are scenes (12:04 for example) where it's used decently and it looks pretty good.
Good dithering is what made Capcom and Square games shine.
I'm going to wait for a physical copy of this one. Especially considering I just picked up the new TMNT beat-em-up yesterday.
I hope you preordered from LRG. If not, you will have to buy from a scalper.
It’s been given a physical release here in Europe if you missed out on the LRG preorder.
@@ReaperMan1010 nice thanks for the heads up!!!
Available on Amazon US now.
You made the right choice dude shredders revenge is amazing and it’s not cheap like this game with zero continues. Wtf were they thinking? Lol
It's nice not to see another shredders revenge video! Sick of them
Joe, you should play Fight'n'Rage, you will probably love it since you want pixel art and want a more I guess focused experience.
14:17 Hey. HEY. Anyone talkin shit on Literacy Corner can catch these hands.
This is not a retro games. Arcade had infinite continues and console version had 3 continues.
No Continues = No Buy
Couldn't be as bad as Shaq Fu or Battletoads, but the Beat Em Ups is flood with games. I think Fight'N Rage is the best indie Beat Em Up if you're already played Street of Rage 4, TMNT, and River City Girls.
Not worth 30$ imo. Besides the TMNT is awesome. I'm loving it.
TMNT holds people's hands and is made for people who credit feed beat em ups. Sounds boring tbh.
Sure if you put it on easy, higher difficulty do give a challenge. Still has the classic beat'em up tropes, bosses ignore stuns, enemies can hit you despite already in jump kick. Controls and moves are amazing perfect. One thing they got right is the pace. You move from fight to fight instead of regular walk speed...why final fight and streets of rage.
What an ending😊I hope shredder’s revenge would get a gamesack review sometime in the near future.
Gotta be honest it looks a bit too old school for me, in a bad way. The core thing I liked about SoR4 is that they actually modernized the gameplay. The combat is way more skill driven than actual 90s beat em ups, it's the kind of game you can actually make it through without taking any damage whatsoever if you're good enough. But not only that there was clearly a lot of thought put into the character attack strings. You can still mash and have fun if you want, but if you really get into all the nuance it's possible to pull off a lot of elaborate combos thanks to the wall bounce system (which is easily one of the smartest designed decisions they made with the game, enemies being knocked/thrown off screen in beat em ups is so annoying.) And it's not just for show as the game has an active ranking system. S ranking each stage requires having an understanding of what all the enemies can do and how to keep the combo meter from resetting.
Personally I think beat em ups died because they never really evolved their gameplay, which is why SoR4 is so great, and you can already see its influence spilling over into other games. The new TMNT game actually uses wall bounce in the exact same way as SoR4 and it's so much fun just juggling these enemies with your combos. Not to mention you have a pretty big moveset in TMNT and can cancel your normal into most other actions. Final Vendetta just looks like it's rooted in the past in all the wrong ways unfortunately. I am willing to give it a chance if it's cheap enough, but all the footage I've seen over the last few days is really killing any interest I had in it.
I played this game and there is more going on in the combat then you may think. As Duke for example you can start the basic combo, cancel it into a special move and then go into a dash attack to prop them up for a juggle combo. Does the combat have as much depth as Streets of Rage 4?
Not really, but TMNT Shredder’s Revenge doesn’t either and that game is still fun. I’d say it’s worth a look as there are some cool mechanics and the core gameplay feels satisfying but I can understand the apprehension.
Especially for around the same price there’s Fight’N Rage, River City Girls (RCG 2 comes out soon as well), River City Ransom: Underground, Jitsu Squad (getting new modes and characters later in the year), and Dawn of the Monsters which have all come out within the last 5 years and are some of the best the genre has to offer with juggles, special cancels, different ways to set up combos etc.
I’d also throw in Ninja Warriors Once Again (or Ninja Saviors outside Japan) and like Shredder’s Revenge it doesn’t have as much depth as the others I’ve mentioned but there’s still some as there’s different ways to combo enemies/juggle them etc., all the characters feel distinct, boss fights are pretty fun, decent enemy variety, and is overall satisfying to play.
We are in a beat em up Renaissance and as a fan of the genre I couldn’t be happier that there’s been a lot of quality titles recently (quite a few this year alone) that show why the genre still has a place even in 2022.
I agree with pretty much everything you've written, it's a good analysis of the beat em up evolution.
I think streets of rage 4 is amazing. Great vid nonetheless ;)